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[00:00:08] <PetefromTn_> BOM?
[00:00:14] <ssi> I'm trying to figure out how the GTOC and PTOC of smartserial work
[00:00:29] <MacGalempsy> Bill of Materials
[00:00:37] <PetefromTn_> ah
[00:01:21] <PetefromTn_> I gotta be honest with you man
[00:01:29] <PetefromTn_> I have a bunch of things I SHOULD be doing
[00:01:37] <PetefromTn_> but I have done exactly SQUAT today
[00:01:51] <PetefromTn_> its been kind of a crazy Halloween Weekend for us here
[00:03:23] <PetefromTn_> I did start working on a drawing for a little while tho
[00:03:24] <MacGalempsy> i got 3 projects to work on this week. build shed, seal roof, clean garage and make seminar fliers
[00:03:39] <MacGalempsy> so tomorrow will be packed!
[00:03:44] <PetefromTn_> but then we put on the great food truck race on netflix and I got lost in it LOL
[00:03:50] <MacGalempsy> hahaha
[00:04:57] <malcom2073_> Hello!
[00:05:03] <PetefromTn_> Hello
[00:05:09] <malcom2073_> ssi: Bid on any more auctions?
[00:05:09] <MacGalempsy> hey malcom2073_
[00:05:12] <malcom2073_> They end tomorrow :)
[00:05:48] <ssi> nope
[00:06:06] <malcom2073_> Hah ok. I was hoping you'd fly up and I could convince you to buy these 2600mm rails off me :P
[00:06:15] <ssi> hahaha
[00:06:22] <ssi> I wouldn't be able to get them in the airplane
[00:06:33] <malcom2073_> They're really skinny, just strap them to the wing :)
[00:06:45] <ssi> honestly that would work :)
[00:06:47] <MacGalempsy> bbiab time to make dinner for the wife
[00:06:54] <malcom2073_> lol
[00:06:57] <ssi> I'd strap them longitudinally though to the belly
[00:07:03] <malcom2073_> There ya go
[00:07:05] <ssi> I should add some hardpoints for stuff lik ethat
[00:07:07] <ssi> that'd be hilarious
[00:07:18] <malcom2073_> How often do you need long skinny things though
[00:07:25] <malcom2073_> extruded aluminum metal stock
[00:07:26] <ssi> well hardpoints would let me carry all sorts of things
[00:07:30] <ssi> fuel pods, bombs, you name it
[00:07:33] <malcom2073_> heh
[00:07:40] <malcom2073_> fuel pods, bombs, cargo pods, bombs
[00:07:46] <ssi> rockets, moar bombs
[00:07:58] <renesis> you can put drones with hardboard
[00:08:17] <renesis> hardpoints
[00:08:23] <renesis> i messed that up
[00:08:41] <renesis> but then you can put drones with hardpoints on the drone hardpoints
[00:08:44] <malcom2073_> heh
[00:08:47] <malcom2073_> Droneception
[00:09:16] <malcom2073_> Guy I know has a vise, so if I don't win any of these, I'll just buy his off him. It's a noname, but it'll get me up and running
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[00:10:30] <malcom2073_> I'm getting more and more sure that I'm never actually going to build my big router
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[00:12:27] <PetefromTn_> GOD IT SUCKS seeing my paypal account back at zero after buying those drives and motors LOL... Gotta fix that shit and quick!
[00:12:36] <malcom2073_> Lol
[00:12:56] <ssi> lol
[00:13:01] <ssi> what did you buy?
[00:13:08] <PetefromTn_> I thought I told you
[00:13:13] <ssi> I dont recall
[00:13:28] <PetefromTn_> I got the 750 watt AC servos and drives and cables package from DMM
[00:13:30] <malcom2073_> Lol
[00:13:31] <ssi> ah ok
[00:13:35] <ssi> for the lathe?
[00:13:43] <PetefromTn_> got their DYN4 drives
[00:13:50] <PetefromTn_> yeah the lathe build
[00:14:28] <PetefromTn_> I gotta buy my VFD now too so that is gonna be the next big purchase
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[00:17:35] <jdh> I got my sunday-delivery amazon SSD for my mill.
[00:17:51] <PetefromTn_> sunday?
[00:17:53] <Tom_itx> which one did you get?
[00:18:08] <jdh> kingspec 64gb
[00:18:22] <jdh> effectively the same price as teh 32 or 16
[00:18:24] <PetefromTn_> I gotta start building my PC for the lathe too
[00:18:55] <PetefromTn_> I do have a nice big flatscreen monitor,keyboard, mouse etc actually several here.
[00:19:14] <jdh> you need a 19" touchscreen on a swing arm
[00:19:16] <PetefromTn_> what is the flavor du jour for a quality linuxCNC build right now in a desktop
[00:19:43] <PetefromTn_> touchscreen would be cool actually
[00:19:50] <PetefromTn_> but I doubt it is gonna happen
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[00:20:50] <Tom_itx> may as well do it now or you'll never
[00:21:09] <PetefromTn_> got any smokin deals on one?
[00:21:39] <PetefromTn_> I really like the industrial keyboard I use currently it is impervious to coolant and chips etc.
[00:21:48] <Tom_itx> i turned down some local ones a while back i kinda regret now
[00:21:55] <PetefromTn_> what sort of main board are you guys recommending right now
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[00:27:38] <PetefromTn_> aww Fred Thompson died...
[00:30:31] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_, a while back pcw recomended the as-rock Q1900 boards
[00:31:12] <PetefromTn_> oh yeah
[00:31:13] <Tom_itx> Q1900B-ITX and Q1900M-Pro3 were two i got that he recomended
[00:31:22] <Tom_itx> one is itx the other is mini atx
[00:31:23] <PetefromTn_> oh you have one?
[00:31:27] <Tom_itx> both
[00:31:31] <PetefromTn_> nice
[00:31:39] <Tom_itx> not running linux on them right now though
[00:31:44] <PetefromTn_> I want a mini like an atom I think
[00:31:53] <Tom_itx> still got my D525 running my mill
[00:32:01] <Tom_itx> that would be the itx one then
[00:32:11] <Tom_itx> about 2x faster than the D525
[00:32:33] <jdh> Pete:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281686552824
[00:32:37] <Tom_itx> no idea what the hot board is right now but that wasn't that long ago
[00:33:14] <Tom_itx> problem with touch screen etc is the drivers
[00:33:34] <jdh> I have hope ones at work. they use elo drivers
[00:33:52] <Tom_itx> good
[00:34:15] <Tom_itx> i could have gotten some 19" here for 65 ea a while back
[00:34:26] <Tom_itx> don't recall the brand now
[00:34:32] <Tom_itx> maybe dell?
[00:37:04] <Tom_itx> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=Q1900M+pro3&N=-1&isNodeId=1
[00:37:17] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_ that would give you 2 pci 2 pcie slots
[00:38:00] <Tom_itx> or parport depending what cards you get for it
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[00:44:55] <PetefromTn_> jeez that looks good and a good price
[00:45:03] <PetefromTn_> sorry I was on the phone
[00:45:25] <PetefromTn_> I have an craigslist ad running looking for a 300ZX project car
[00:45:36] <PetefromTn_> and some kid has one in west knoxville he offered me
[00:46:57] <MacGalempsy> that turned out well
[00:47:49] <PetefromTn_> why would I need 2 PCI slots tho?
[00:48:21] <MacGalempsy> 2 5i25
[00:48:50] <PetefromTn_> yeah why would you possibly need 2 5i25's?
[00:48:52] <Tom_itx> you may not
[00:49:02] <MacGalempsy> who knows, but you could
[00:49:04] <Tom_itx> unless you're io hungry
[00:49:23] <Tom_itx> there are other solutions for that using one card too though
[00:49:26] <Tom_itx> sserial etc
[00:49:30] <PetefromTn_> you can piggyback the daughter cards on one 5i25
[00:49:38] <Tom_itx> yeah
[00:49:49] <PetefromTn_> but anyway that is the one you have then?
[00:49:58] <Tom_itx> and set up sserial on one for limit io and slow stuff like that
[00:50:00] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: lots of potentially rusty ones up here
http://chicago.craigslist.org/search/sss?sort=rel&query=300zx
[00:50:03] <Tom_itx> yes
[00:50:29] <Tom_itx> runs cool too
[00:50:48] <Tom_itx> this pc is running the itx version
[00:50:55] <Tom_itx> up 24/7
[00:51:30] <bz> i wanna know how rubber stators are made
[00:51:56] <PetefromTn_> CaptHindsight I know man they are not exactly rare LOL
[00:52:24] <PetefromTn_> but I recently drove up to Chicago for my sons graduation and I don't really want to do that again ;)
[00:54:09] <zeeshan> man sk10 collets
[00:54:11] <zeeshan> are rare
[00:54:19] <ssi> lul
[00:54:53] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: I'm actually surprised by how many have survived from the 80's
[00:55:12] <PetefromTn_> they're from the 90s man
[00:55:23] <ssi> they're from the 80s too man :)
[00:55:28] <PetefromTn_> hehehe
[00:55:52] <PetefromTn_> yeah but the one I WANT is from the 90s work with me fellas!!
[00:55:58] <CaptHindsight> http://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/5295109128.html 2 for $1600
[00:56:27] <ssi> CaptHindsight: both AEs?
[00:56:29] <ssi> worth it if so
[00:57:00] <PetefromTn_> AE?
[00:57:05] <ssi> anniversary edition
[00:57:22] <PetefromTn_> thats nice but I really don't like that body style at all
[00:57:39] <ssi> yeah
[00:57:43] <ssi> good thing you have plenty of money :)
[00:57:58] <CaptHindsight> but it had an extra hood scoop!
[00:58:03] <PetefromTn_> hell there are TONS of the 90-96's out there for cheap
[00:58:09] <ssi> not turbos
[00:58:12] <PetefromTn_> both
[00:58:23] <ssi> show me a cheap TT :)
[00:58:30] <ssi> I mean besides the one I bought with the blown up motor
[00:59:09] <PetefromTn_> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/cto/5278057911.html
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[01:00:11] <PetefromTn_> http://huntsville.craigslist.org/cto/5258052086.html
[01:01:09] <ssi> black one is rashy but the red one might be worth it
[01:01:16] <PetefromTn_> most will need work of course
[01:01:32] <PetefromTn_> that red one runs
[01:01:50] <CaptHindsight> I want one of these where the tailgate keeps you from doing a complete backflip off the line
http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/bill-maverick-golden-in-the-little-red-wagon-mike-mcglothlen.jpg
[01:01:53] <ssi> https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/11055738_10208091408512020_7935301733727985743_o.jpg
[01:02:23] <PetefromTn_> I actually do not want a turbo model
[01:02:28] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight, i've seen that thing at an airshow here
[01:02:29] <PetefromTn_> I want a 2+2
[01:02:34] <PetefromTn_> so my kids can sit in back
[01:02:40] <ssi> PetefromTn_: terribl idea :D
[01:02:45] <PetefromTn_> and I will PUT a turbo in it
[01:02:51] <PetefromTn_> why?
[01:03:23] <ssi> https://z32.wikispaces.com/Twin+Turbo+Conversion
[01:03:55] <PetefromTn_> no actually I do not want to put the VG motor in it
[01:04:10] <ssi> ok fine
[01:04:18] <PetefromTn_> I like these RB motors and 2j motors
[01:04:35] <PetefromTn_> If the car was ALREADY a TT
[01:04:42] <PetefromTn_> I would probably keep it in there and build it
[01:04:57] <PetefromTn_> but I don't think they made any 2+2 Turbos did they?
[01:05:04] <ssi> nope
[01:06:16] <PetefromTn_> Don't get me wrong the motor is a great motor but these guys I am working with have a lot more experience with the straight 6's
[01:06:43] <PetefromTn_> and it is easier to go gonzo with room in the engine bay I think
[01:07:27] <PetefromTn_> at the rate I am going here it might take an eternity to do it...or I might change my mind and do something else ;) Look SQUIRREL!!!
[01:07:38] <ssi> I promise it'll take an eternity to do it
[01:07:48] <PetefromTn_> to do what?
[01:07:58] <ssi> an RB swap'd z32 2+2
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[01:08:08] <PetefromTn_> its been done many times
[01:08:08] <ssi> it'll take two eternities to do a 2j swap'd z32
[01:08:15] <ssi> by you?
[01:08:19] <PetefromTn_> no
[01:08:26] <PetefromTn_> but its not reinventing the wheel either
[01:08:39] <ssi> it sorta is
[01:08:43] <PetefromTn_> you have that little faith in me huh
[01:08:50] <ssi> no
[01:08:56] <ssi> I just have an idea of what's involved :)
[01:09:10] <PetefromTn_> just because it took me forever to work on my CINCI does not mean everything I do is like that.
[01:09:25] * Tom_itx glances up for a sec
[01:09:44] <PetefromTn_> working with these guys I think I have an idea as well and what I don't know they probably do
[01:10:43] <PetefromTn_> Hehe they all said the love the car but hate working on it because of the cramped engine bay
[01:11:30] <ssi> you're just trading lateral space issues for logitudanl space issues
[01:11:43] <ssi> http://www.full-race.com/store/images/full/nissan-rb20-25-26det-t-twinscroll-turbo-manifold-content-23.jpg
[01:11:58] <PetefromTn_> probably but the longitudinal is better for tubing exhaust and intake
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[01:13:24] <PetefromTn_> I have built quite a few vehicles over the years...mostly rock crawlers but I am no stranger to fab work and custom installs..
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[01:13:51] <ssi> what about ECU, wiring harness, turbo tuning, etc
[01:14:02] <PetefromTn_> thats where the shop guys come in!!
[01:14:07] <ssi> know how to read a compressor map?
[01:14:28] <PetefromTn_> one of the guys in the shop is ALREADY wanting to trade me work for a lot of that stuff
[01:14:39] <PetefromTn_> I am sure I can figure it out if not
[01:15:05] <Tom_itx> does anybody know if these cheap bottle jacks unscrew at the base for disassembly?
http://www.harborfreight.com/4-ton-hydraulic-bottle-jack-66450.html
[01:15:27] <PetefromTn_> mine did
[01:15:40] <Tom_itx> threaded or pressed into a seal?
[01:15:47] <Tom_itx> from the top down...
[01:15:49] <PetefromTn_> it was threaded
[01:15:57] <Tom_itx> hard to remove?
[01:16:04] <zeeshan> no
[01:16:06] <PetefromTn_> well it was broken
[01:16:21] <zeeshan> are you trying to make a toe jack :D
[01:16:23] <PetefromTn_> so it kinda came apart easily LOL but I did not think it was difficult
[01:16:30] <Tom_itx> i need to take one apart for my kids catia project
[01:16:59] <zeeshan> http://s130.photobucket.com/user/turbozee84/library/
[01:17:01] <zeeshan> er
[01:17:10] <zeeshan> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/welder.jpg
[01:17:13] <zeeshan> can you tell what this is :D
[01:17:43] <zeeshan> bad pic :[
[01:17:45] <zeeshan> rb26 :D
[01:18:12] <zeeshan> damn engine cost my buddy 3500
[01:19:49] <PetefromTn_> jeez
[01:19:55] <PetefromTn_> what are you putting it in?
[01:20:05] <zeeshan> we put it in a 240sx
[01:20:08] <zeeshan> longggg time ago
[01:20:10] <zeeshan> old pic :D
[01:20:16] <zeeshan> bad memories
[01:20:18] <PetefromTn_> what is hard to do?
[01:20:40] <PetefromTn_> was it LOL
[01:20:48] <zeeshan> yea =/
[01:20:52] <PetefromTn_> why>
[01:20:53] <zeeshan> it wasn't hard to do
[01:20:56] <zeeshan> just took a long time
[01:21:04] <PetefromTn_> anything like that takes a long time
[01:21:15] <zeeshan> nothing is hard!!!!!!!1
[01:21:16] <zeeshan> :D
[01:21:27] <zeeshan> just gotta have the mindset
[01:21:28] <zeeshan> not be a ssi
[01:21:34] <zeeshan> and leave your mill sitting around for years
[01:21:35] <PetefromTn_> that guy who built that SWEET green RX7 turbo took 4.5 years
[01:21:36] <zeeshan> :-)
[01:21:37] * zeeshan hides
[01:21:37] * zeeshan hides
[01:21:54] <PetefromTn_> It will probably take me at least that long LOL
[01:22:02] <zeeshan> to do what
[01:22:06] <zeeshan> rb26 in a 300zx?
[01:22:08] <PetefromTn_> to build the car
[01:22:10] <zeeshan> why would you do that swap though
[01:22:12] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[01:22:18] <PetefromTn_> why?
[01:22:37] <zeeshan> the whats wrong with the v6
[01:23:07] <PetefromTn_> nothing really
[01:23:14] <PetefromTn_> but I want a 2
[01:23:16] <PetefromTn_> 2+2
[01:23:22] <PetefromTn_> which does not come turbo
[01:23:35] <zeeshan> wouldnt it be easier just to swap the tt in there
[01:23:37] <PetefromTn_> so its either swap to a TT VG motor
[01:23:42] <zeeshan> rather than transplant a different engine
[01:23:43] <PetefromTn_> or go with something else
[01:23:50] <PetefromTn_> probably MUCH easier
[01:24:14] <zeeshan> the main thing i'd see swapping a rb in there would be is the free space you'l get
[01:24:22] <zeeshan> the vg engine is lame inside the 300zx engine bay
[01:24:26] <zeeshan> theres no room to work
[01:24:44] <PetefromTn_> I just like the straight 6
[01:25:09] <PetefromTn_> kind of a poor mans supra
[01:25:18] <ssi> why not just get a rich man's supra
[01:25:25] <ssi> it'll cost less :P
[01:25:27] <PetefromTn_> gonna give me the money?
[01:25:33] <PetefromTn_> doubt that
[01:25:34] <zeeshan> you might not like my opinion
[01:25:39] <zeeshan> but i absolutely hate the way the 300zx looks :(
[01:25:48] <PetefromTn_> thats cool
[01:25:59] <ssi> zeeshan: yea but you also like FD's :)
[01:26:00] <PetefromTn_> we do not need to agree thats okay
[01:26:04] <zeeshan> but, i LOVE the z31
[01:26:05] <Tom_itx> yeah, just don't hate halloween!
[01:26:09] <zeeshan> lol ssi good try
[01:26:13] <ssi> I love the Z31 also
[01:26:13] <zeeshan> not gonna work
[01:26:28] <PetefromTn_> I have always like the Z32
[01:26:33] <ssi> zeeshan: we're just the right age to like 80s sports cars
[01:26:36] <ssi> pete's too old
[01:26:39] <PetefromTn_> even before ssi got one ;_
[01:26:50] <PetefromTn_> yeah I am
[01:27:09] <ssi> PetefromTn_: what car posters were on your wall when you were 10?
[01:27:10] <PetefromTn_> working in the shop over there seeing all the awesome cars has inspired me
[01:27:18] <ssi> zeeshan: same question
[01:27:22] <PetefromTn_> when I was 10 I had STAR WARS posters
[01:27:50] <PetefromTn_> but in answer to your question the ALPINE Lamborghini Countach
[01:27:53] <zeeshan> i didnt have posterrs or cars on my wall
[01:27:58] <zeeshan> i had posters of nude madonna
[01:27:58] <Tom_itx> they didn't have cars when i was 10 :D
[01:28:01] <zeeshan> to be REAL honest
[01:28:03] <zeeshan> lol
[01:28:04] <Tom_itx> jk...
[01:28:12] <ssi> lololol
[01:28:26] <ssi> I bet she was PISSED
[01:28:28] <PetefromTn_> I really have always wanted to build a really quick car
[01:28:41] <PetefromTn_> that looks good
[01:28:53] <PetefromTn_> I have always been building jeeps and trucks
[01:28:57] <PetefromTn_> 4c
[01:29:00] <tiwake> good luck forming sheet metal
[01:29:02] <PetefromTn_> 4x4's
[01:29:10] <ssi> tiwake: that's an art all its own :)
[01:29:11] <Tom_itx> my youngest kid has quite a taste for $$$$ cars
[01:29:18] <tiwake> ssi: yeah
[01:29:18] <PetefromTn_> now that I am working with these guys it seems possible
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[01:29:42] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PNl7QwURPs
[01:29:48] <PetefromTn_> before I started working there I didn't really know what a 2jZ was...
[01:30:01] <zeeshan> why are you showing me bead rollers!
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[01:30:11] <ssi> zeeshan: because you need it
[01:30:15] <zeeshan> i have one already
[01:30:18] <PetefromTn_> we have a tubing bead roller at the shop
[01:30:19] <ssi> lol
[01:30:24] <zeeshan> i thought ishowed you a video of this
[01:30:27] <ssi> mostly because that bomber seat he builds at the end is tuns
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[01:30:36] <ssi> for tiwake, re forming sheet metal
[01:30:38] <zeeshan> hes a master sheet metal workier though
[01:30:41] <zeeshan> forgot his name
[01:30:42] <zeeshan> remember his face
[01:30:50] <zeeshan> the other guy is larenzo or whatever from sweden
[01:30:56] <zeeshan> prolly the best 2 guys in the world
[01:31:40] <zeeshan> ssi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV7t-VG73Fk
[01:31:54] <PetefromTn_> I started to build that 3800 Fiero GT before I got sick and had to sell everything
[01:32:11] <zeeshan> my bead roller has the chain of death
[01:32:21] <ssi> zeeshan: you missed a hell of an opportunity
[01:32:28] <ssi> to name that video "this is how I roll"
[01:32:37] <zeeshan> :D
[01:32:46] <tiwake> enh
[01:32:53] <tiwake> I wouldent want to do sheet metal
[01:33:07] <zeeshan> tiwake: leave sheet metal to the real men
[01:33:09] <ssi> tiwake: I do lots of sheet metal, just not that kind of sheet metal
[01:33:27] <ssi> I would love to get good with an english wheel one day
[01:33:30] <ssi> but it's low on my priority list :)
[01:33:38] <zeeshan> how about the mill
[01:33:38] <zeeshan> :D
[01:33:47] <PetefromTn_> building planes I would think that was HIGH on the list
[01:33:51] <ssi> zeeshan: I've been working on the mill all goddamned day already
[01:34:01] <PetefromTn_> REALLY!!
[01:34:03] <ssi> PetefromTn_: nah most of the compound curve work is done in glass these days
[01:34:12] <ssi> the real badasses still do metal, but it's a dying art
[01:34:28] <PetefromTn_> so you're not one of the real badasses then? ;)
[01:34:32] <ssi> nope
[01:34:48] <PetefromTn_> well you got a 300ZTT so its all good
[01:34:56] <PetefromTn_> :D
[01:35:07] <ssi> I certainly didn't form the body panels on it :)
[01:35:15] <ssi> tiwake: some of my sheet metal work
[01:35:16] <ssi> tiwake:
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/v/t1.0-0/q82/p206x206/247629_10100172352152412_325887569_n.jpg?oh=aedc565f510cab1eb33021941d6538bd&oe=56C7FCFD
[01:35:20] <PetefromTn_> hows the rust? You might just get to LOL
[01:35:28] <ssi> only one spot of rust I've found
[01:35:31] <tiwake> oh nice
[01:35:37] <ssi> in the hatch, where the weatherstrip comes together
[01:35:41] <ssi> it's not visible unless the hatch is open
[01:35:48] <PetefromTn_> thats good
[01:36:02] <PetefromTn_> this guy just offered me a decent 2+2 T top
[01:36:06] <PetefromTn_> but its an auto car
[01:36:15] <ssi> if you're going to do an extreme swap, it doesn't really matter
[01:36:30] <PetefromTn_> yeah it does it is just more shit I will have to do
[01:36:54] <ssi> trust me, on the laundry list of crap you have to do to 2j swap a z32, a pedal cluster and shifter trim is pretty minor :)
[01:37:01] <tiwake> installing debian on my laptop with a PXE netboot
[01:37:10] <PetefromTn_> have you done it?
[01:37:14] <ssi> yeah
[01:37:20] <ssi> not on a z32, on a z31
[01:37:30] <zeeshan> FUCK
[01:37:34] <zeeshan> sk10, WHERE ARE YOU
[01:37:41] <ssi> zeeshan: probably hiding behind PCW
[01:37:42] <zeeshan> i hate loop searchs on google
[01:38:04] <ssi> I'm stuck on my sserial work cause neither pcw nor rene-dev- is around to answer my q's :(
[01:38:10] <PetefromTn_> I helped a friend local put a manual into an auto Fiero..
[01:38:17] <PetefromTn_> it was kind of a bitch
[01:38:21] <PetefromTn_> mostly because of the wiring
[01:38:31] <PetefromTn_> and linkages
[01:38:41] <ssi> no linkages in the z32
[01:38:44] <ssi> it's direct shift
[01:38:49] <PetefromTn_> sure
[01:39:04] <PetefromTn_> does the pedal quadrant just drop in?
[01:39:13] <PetefromTn_> or is there fab work involved
[01:40:35] <PetefromTn_> I need to get an MPG too
[01:42:05] <ssi> should be pretty simple
[01:42:34] <ssi> https://www.z1motorsports.com/transmission-driveline/z1-motorsports/z1-300zx-automatic-to-manual-speed-conversion-kit-p-7341.html
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[01:45:04] <PetefromTn_> I've read that Z1 place is good but PRICEY
[01:45:59] <ssi> that's true
[01:47:34] <PetefromTn_> another nice thing about the straight 6 is you only need one of all the turbo stuff
[01:47:50] <ssi> not necessarily true :)
[01:48:08] <zeeshan> TT baby!!!!!11
[01:48:08] <PetefromTn_> yeah I want a big single
[01:48:32] <ssi> laaaag monster :)
[01:48:43] <zeeshan> wil;l definitely be a supra
[01:48:44] <zeeshan> w/ a big turbo
[01:49:02] <ssi> go RB26DETTR
[01:49:04] <ssi> ftmfw
[01:49:14] <PetefromTn_> LOL
[01:49:34] <PetefromTn_> they have some FAST spooling turbos now and a lot has to do with the way you build it
[01:49:42] <zeeshan> no it doesnt
[01:49:50] <zeeshan> its simple physics
[01:49:57] <zeeshan> if you dont have enough exhaust to blow on a turbo
[01:50:06] <zeeshan> its not going to turn
[01:50:18] <ssi> the variable geometry compressor stuff is interesting
[01:50:25] <zeeshan> twin scroll tries to stop the pulses from being destructive
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[01:50:47] <zeeshan> i have yet to see a vnt aftermarket turbo
[01:50:54] <zeeshan> that was massive enough to make real power
[01:51:08] <PetefromTn_> I think I will be fine with it ;)
[01:52:09] <PetefromTn_> I'm much more concerned about PAYING for it
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[01:52:31] <zeeshan> money pit
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[01:53:37] <zeeshan> i cant imagine what i'd have paid for getting the rx7 engine swapped and tt'ed
[01:54:01] <ssi> and you never get the money back out of it either
[01:54:04] <PetefromTn_> BIG MONEY
[01:54:25] <PetefromTn_> they are building an LS RX7 in the shop now
[01:54:35] <zeeshan> this is a car im dieing w/
[01:54:46] <PetefromTn_> I like that
[01:54:46] <zeeshan> so getting money back wasn't a key thing forme
[01:54:57] <ssi> phrasing
[01:54:57] <PetefromTn_> I want to find that car for me
[01:55:03] <zeeshan> itll get passed in family
[01:55:31] <zeeshan> how much for the build pete?
[01:55:33] <ssi> yea see I don't feel that way about cars anymore
[01:55:35] <zeeshan> tthe ls
[01:55:41] <ssi> cars are just temporary... they don't hold up long term
[01:55:53] <zeeshan> ?????
[01:56:07] <PetefromTn_> no idea man but if it is anything like that other RX7 its not gonna be cheap
[01:56:11] <ssi> they rust and deteriorate and just go to shit
[01:56:18] <PetefromTn_> I don't ask questions like that
[01:56:24] <ssi> they feel like bad investments
[01:56:41] <zeeshan> what kind have you owned
[01:56:48] <zeeshan> and what are you doing to them to let em rust away!
[01:56:58] <PetefromTn_> lol
[01:57:13] <zeeshan> they arent investments
[01:57:14] <ssi> they have to be maintained pretty seriously if you want them to not rust away
[01:57:17] <PetefromTn_> ya see zeeshan REFUSES to put his car outside
[01:57:27] <ssi> yeah that's very true
[01:57:34] <zeeshan> its a weekend warrior
[01:57:39] <PetefromTn_> it took a new CNC lathe to get it out even overnight
[01:57:45] <zeeshan> LOL
[01:57:53] <ssi> zeeshan: I guess what I mean is
[01:58:02] <PetefromTn_> he's actually married to the car his girlfriend is just a mistress
[01:58:14] <ssi> what percentage of cars from 30, 50, 70 years ago are still shiny and serviceable today
[01:58:16] <zeeshan> i cant explain the machines
[01:58:20] <zeeshan> but i can never explain the car to her
[01:58:31] <zeeshan> who cares man
[01:58:32] <zeeshan> ill be dead
[01:58:34] <ssi> vs what percentage of airplanes from 30, 50, 70 years ago are still airworthy and in use
[01:58:52] <PetefromTn_> I don't want anything to do with an OLD airplane LOL
[01:58:53] <ssi> the difference is 1) steel vs aluminum
[01:58:58] <zeeshan> i know plenty of old cars that still exist
[01:59:03] <ssi> and b) federally mandated maintenance
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[01:59:33] <ssi> PetefromTn_: there are LOADS of airplanes from the 40's that are still perfectly airworthy and safe
[01:59:53] <PetefromTn_> yeah but you won't see me riding in one ;)
[02:00:13] <CaptHindsight> I used to drive cars that Fred Flinstone could power :)
[02:00:16] <ssi> you were on C130s weren't you?
[02:00:21] <PetefromTn_> yup
[02:00:25] <PetefromTn_> and that was too old
[02:00:25] <ssi> what year were they built?
[02:00:33] <ssi> early 60s?
[02:00:42] <Praesmeodymium> 747's been in service since 1970
[02:00:42] <PetefromTn_> late 60's early 70s apparently
[02:01:12] <PetefromTn_> honestly that C130 is an amazing plane
[02:01:21] <PetefromTn_> that has a fantastic service record
[02:01:23] <ssi> it is
[02:01:38] <PetefromTn_> multiple secondary systems on everything
[02:01:54] <PetefromTn_> Did I ever tell you when our engine blew up over the pacific?
[02:01:57] <ssi> nope
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[02:02:02] <norias> hi
[02:02:02] <PetefromTn_> JEEZ
[02:02:18] <PetefromTn_> we were flying from Barbers Point to Guam
[02:02:21] <CaptHindsight> the design life of an aircraft is typically given in cycles
[02:02:53] <PetefromTn_> and about 40 minutes out from Andersen AFB the number 3 engine exploded on the wing...
[02:03:03] <CaptHindsight> long haul aircraft 40k cycles, short haul 100k
[02:03:06] <PetefromTn_> FIRE, FLAMES, RED LIGHTS EVERYWHERE
[02:03:27] <PetefromTn_> I was flying navigator avionicsmen at the time
[02:03:46] <PetefromTn_> I remember everyone starting out the window wide eyed
[02:04:06] <PetefromTn_> and trying to determine if they should pull the SECOND fire handle on that motor
[02:04:35] <PetefromTn_> they decided not to even tho you could see a yellowish glow in the nacelle
[02:04:48] <PetefromTn_> I thought we were screwed man
[02:05:20] <PetefromTn_> but we landed at Guam with the entire runway lit up with emergency vehicles
[02:05:44] <PetefromTn_> the next day after we rested we went back to assess the damage
[02:06:10] <PetefromTn_> it looked like a midget with a shotgun climbed into the engine and fired round after round all around the inside of the engine
[02:06:26] <PetefromTn_> one of the holes went up and into the wing
[02:06:49] <PetefromTn_> luckily it did not hit any fuel cells which is amazing really because that is where most of the fuel is stored in that plane
[02:07:09] <zeeshan> did you do a 360 in the plane
[02:07:11] <PetefromTn_> Turns out there was a metallurgical problem with the turbine blades
[02:07:40] <PetefromTn_> so they grounded the entire fleet of CG 130's and some of the other service 130's that received those engines
[02:07:59] <PetefromTn_> we got to spend a couple weeks in GUAM while they figured out what to do
[02:08:36] <PetefromTn_> but then they flew us back via MAC and another crew flew from Barbers to Guam to work on and repair the plane
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[02:08:49] <ssi> christ
[02:08:52] <PetefromTn_> I have pictures of the damage somewhere
[02:09:15] <PetefromTn_> my radiomen said my eyes were as big as watermellons LOL
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[02:09:28] <bz> that's some serious kawaii
[02:10:37] <ssi> lol
[02:10:39] <PetefromTn_> Its not something I will soon forget
[02:10:53] <PetefromTn_> the good lord was watchin over us that night
[02:11:02] <norias> hmm
[02:11:10] <norias> i've been wondering to myself
[02:11:19] <norias> why there isn't a machine that's a horizontal lathe
[02:11:30] <norias> er
[02:11:33] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[02:11:39] <norias> vertical lathe and horizontal mill
[02:11:43] <norias> in one machine
[02:11:55] <norias> just seems like it would make sense
[02:12:15] <norias> or maybe there is
[02:12:20] <norias> and i just haven't seen it
[02:13:11] <PetefromTn_> would you guys buy that main board for a CNC lathe build?
[02:13:56] <norias> http://www.okuma.com/millac-33tu-1
[02:14:31] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_, PCW ran it thru the paces i believe
[02:14:39] <Tom_itx> i think i would if i were building a lathe
[02:14:44] <CaptHindsight> how about a slant bed mill?
[02:17:24] <PetefromTn_> did he really thats good
[02:19:41] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhwUHgWzzKs Screw Machine 7 Axis
[02:20:43] <CaptHindsight> milling and lathing :)
[02:21:36] <norias> yeah, i've programmed some very similar machines
[02:21:46] <norias> i'm thinking more of the huge vertical lathes
[02:21:48] <CaptHindsight> instead of a tool changer just more spindles
[02:21:55] <CaptHindsight> just add
[02:22:13] <norias> they seem really close in design to a horizontal mill
[02:22:41] <norias> enough so that i wonder if it's reasonable to have a "multi function" machine of a similar design
[02:22:57] <CaptHindsight> Lathes, 4 - 11 Axis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLAW69DaysI
[02:25:34] <CaptHindsight> 6 stationary cutting tools, 5 more in what could be called the tailstock and 4 spindles mounted at a right angle to the headtsock
[02:26:09] <Tecan> the musc on the other one is pretty snazzy too
[02:26:29] <CaptHindsight> heh yeah
[02:26:54] <CaptHindsight> the tail is also live
[02:26:55] <norias> it also just recently struck me
[02:27:07] <norias> that dovetailed vise jaws could be a good idea
[02:27:15] <norias> i might try that
[02:28:58] <CaptHindsight> drilling from the opposite side offset from the spindle center
[02:29:59] <tiwake> CaptHindsight: thats an incredibly complicated part...
[02:30:27] <CaptHindsight> and then some horizontal magic here
https://youtu.be/NLAW69DaysI?t=43s
[02:30:40] <CaptHindsight> me want to make one now
[02:30:42] <tiwake> was that a demo part or a real thing for something
[02:31:30] <PetefromTn_> for small precision parts those are amazing
[02:32:17] <CaptHindsight> that part could be real, 1 to 4 way adapter for pneumatic's or hydraulics
[02:32:33] <tiwake> no, the other one
[02:32:35] <tiwake> before it
[02:32:52] <tiwake> some sort of cam on the end or something
[02:38:48] <CaptHindsight> https://youtu.be/pevgkx69j8o?t=14m58s !! this one dresses it wheels before grinding
[02:40:21] <CaptHindsight> thats what I need, a machine that sharpens its own tools
[02:41:47] <tiwake> that machine is so clean
[02:44:03] <PetefromTn_> holy pinion batman
[02:46:58] <MacGalempsy> its so clean, I am not sure it is even doing anything!
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[02:48:30] <XXCoder> hey metal cutters
[02:49:10] <XXCoder> wow
[02:49:15] <XXCoder> self sharping
[02:49:15] <MacGalempsy> so PetefromTn_ the other night the machinist instructor was doing turning work on the HAAS, liike you were talking about the other day. making ballpeen hammerheads
[02:49:37] <PetefromTn_> out of what material?
[02:49:45] <MacGalempsy> some kind of steel
[02:49:50] <XXCoder> unobtainabableium
[02:50:03] <MacGalempsy> he had a carbide lathe tool clamped into the vise
[02:50:18] <PetefromTn_> vise?
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[02:50:51] <XXCoder> interesting. first time I see shaped grinder
[02:51:00] <XXCoder> one that looks kjinda like worm gear
[02:52:58] <PetefromTn_> what kind of HAAS lathe was it?
[02:54:10] <MacGalempsy> HAAS mill
[02:54:37] <MacGalempsy> had the material chucked into the collet, and the tool clamped into a vise on the table
[02:54:42] <PetefromTn_> Oh sorry I thought you said turning work
[02:54:50] <PetefromTn_> okay cool
[02:55:03] <MacGalempsy> yeah, he turned the hammer
[02:55:03] <PetefromTn_> I recently did some vertical lathe turning with the CINCINATTI
[02:55:18] <MacGalempsy> I recall, that is why I mentioned it
[02:55:44] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/Cc4FTm8.jpg
[02:56:01] <PetefromTn_> I machined that Vee band flange heat sink
[02:56:15] <PetefromTn_> it actually did not work right the first time ;_
[02:56:18] <PetefromTn_> ;)
[02:56:49] <PetefromTn_> because at the time I did not understand how the bands went together and I forgot to machine the groove into the face LOL
[02:57:11] <MacGalempsy> oops
[02:57:14] <PetefromTn_> it actually worked surprisingly well
[02:57:30] <PetefromTn_> but I must say turning on the face with the part facing down atop the vise is NOT EASY
[02:57:39] <PetefromTn_> you can't see what you are doing
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[02:58:15] <PetefromTn_> side turning would be simple and simple facing would too
[02:58:32] <PetefromTn_> maybe even threading
[02:58:53] <PetefromTn_> did you turn a handle too?
[02:59:12] <MacGalempsy> no, we just took turned activating the cycle
[02:59:14] <MacGalempsy> s
[02:59:29] <PetefromTn_> did you help program it?
[02:59:34] <MacGalempsy> it really is a PROGRAMMING course. lol
[03:00:10] <MacGalempsy> they used g19 (x/z) plane it seemed kind of a basic program
[03:00:57] <PetefromTn_> yup
[03:01:28] <PetefromTn_> I have probably got a long road to hoe when it comes to CNC lathe programming learning
[03:03:49] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20151029-20151029-3d-systems-president-and-ceo-avi-reichental-steps-down.html so there is a limit to a CEO's bulldodo
[03:04:14] <XXCoder> hm
[03:04:21] <XXCoder> wy would anyone 3d print a wheel
[03:04:33] <XXCoder> unless using cast model HMMM
[03:05:06] <CaptHindsight> yeah you can easily mill that faster
[03:05:34] <CaptHindsight> that's a day long print for a single laser SLA printer
[03:05:47] <XXCoder> I suppose it would be nice to have light model to show off.
[03:06:00] <CaptHindsight> oh and Chick sold over half his stock last year and retired
[03:06:17] <CaptHindsight> the end of a BS era
[03:06:27] <CaptHindsight> Chick/Chuck
[03:09:11] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: spray it silver
[03:09:17] <XXCoder> exactly
[03:09:24] <XXCoder> or nickel coat then chrome
[03:09:36] <XXCoder> there is ways to chrome coat plastic
[03:10:51] <XXCoder> http://www.thehogring.com/2012/10/16/6-ways-to-transform-plastic-into-chrome/ maybe
[03:13:43] <CaptHindsight> electroplate
[03:14:22] <CaptHindsight> I'm working on a conductive water soluble resin for just that application
[03:14:28] <XXCoder> nice
[03:15:21] <CaptHindsight> you print it, plate, well electroform really, and then rinse away the support
[03:22:09] <mutilator> wow that stretch wrap chrome stuff is pretty awesome
[03:23:24] <XXCoder> chrome killer has a bad review in reply
[03:23:50] <Wolf_> weird, need to order a expensive tool and I’m not very excited about it
[03:26:10] <XXCoder> why does that tool give you meh?
[03:26:40] <Wolf_> would think it would cool, has laser
[03:26:47] <Wolf_> but it just sits and spins
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[03:28:32] <XXCoder> "like" new, for sale $10,000 OBO or trade
[03:28:37] <XXCoder> https://i.chzbgr.com/full/4283504896/h8E067371/
[03:28:51] <XXCoder> "like" new lol
[03:29:19] <MacGalempsy> hahah
[03:29:49] <MacGalempsy> nice one. reminds me of a tornup shack by Lion's Reservoir in NorCal that said fixer upper $2million
[03:30:01] <XXCoder> lol
[03:30:13] <Wolf_> $900 for a damn level… I know why I’m not excited lol
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[03:31:24] <MacGalempsy> well everyone, its time to retire for the evening. be back tomorrow to give you another reason to fear for the fate of mankind
[03:31:28] <MacGalempsy> heh. laters
[03:31:33] <XXCoder> later
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[04:11:29] <Tecan> "like" must mean something other than like
[04:11:46] <Tecan> be wary of "like" new items ?
[04:12:12] <XXCoder> if you see sign "tasty" taco with "meat"
[04:12:17] <XXCoder> what would you think?
[04:14:08] <Wolf_> taco bell
[04:16:14] <Tecan> mmmmm tacos
[04:16:25] <XXCoder> Wolf_: lol yeah
[04:21:52] <XXCoder> Tecan:
http://www.optipess.com/2012/03/26/feeding-time/
[04:25:06] <XXCoder> optipress always has quite twisted humor
[04:25:23] <XXCoder> or humour as hes from brit or something
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[05:06:20] <XXCoder> prepure to be shocked.
http://darthjarjar.com/
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[11:25:54] <tjtr33> skunksleep, you awake or is that a bot?
[11:27:38] <skunksleep> Just happen to be awake
[11:29:08] <tjtr33> moved to thailand, found a local makerspace with some machines
[11:29:16] <tjtr33> bet you busy with new baby
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[11:31:15] <skunksleep> Awesome! How do you like it so far?
[11:31:48] <tjtr33_> great weather great food great savings ( cheap here ) but i miss my machines :( ,,,,,,,
[11:32:28] <tjtr33_> peteG took some of the stuff, hope he can use it
[11:32:44] <tjtr33_> other stuff went to chicagoland hackergroups
[11:33:53] <skunksleep> Cool. Pete is a nice guy.
[11:34:02] <_methods> ah man i love thailand
[11:34:08] <_methods> i'd love to move there
[11:34:15] <_methods> don't think my wife would dig it though
[11:34:20] <_methods> eat some roti for me
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[11:34:33] <skunksleep> Yes. Busy is an understatement :)
[11:34:41] <tjtr33_> roti murtabak mmmmmmm
[11:35:20] <_methods> man i love that stuff
[11:35:53] <_methods> i've thought about takin a trip back to thailand to go learn how to make it lol
[11:36:02] <tjtr33_> skunksleep, i guessed that was why you were awake
[11:37:48] <skunksleep> Kind of.. I am up this early for work so I have a few extra hours with the kids at night.
[11:43:10] <tjtr33_> http://ibin.co/2LA71W46FUVU yesterday, just some alley, just some temple, just ;)
[11:45:01] <skunksleep> Neat. I assume you speak the language?
[11:45:37] <tjtr33_> mai dai passat phut thau ( i cant speak thai ) hahaha
[11:45:47] <tjtr33_> or type
[11:47:17] <tjtr33_> well its 6:46pm Mon Nov2 here so its 6:46am there, have a good day at work. ttul8r
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[11:49:30] <skunksleep> Happy retirement!
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[12:34:57] <SolarNRG> any welders here?
[12:35:40] <SolarNRG> quick question, I got this 14mm stainless steel pipe that I want to bend into a 90 degree corner section, if I put the two weldign clamps on the pipe can I "heat bend" it?
[12:37:31] <jthornton> if you don't care what the metal is after you can heat it
[12:37:42] <SolarNRG> ??
[12:37:43] <jthornton> don't see a welding question...
[12:38:14] <jthornton> when you heat stainless steel it will loose some if it's stainless properties
[12:38:21] <SolarNRG> No but I was thinking of clamping the positive and negative either end of the pipe about say 3/4 of a foot apart then getting the stainless pipe to glow orange hot, bend then switch off is that safe, would it work?
[12:39:03] <SolarNRG> actually could I just bend it over a propane gas stove also would that work?
[12:41:57] <SolarNRG> would the stainless after heatbending still be suitable for hot water steam distillation, cos what I want to do is boil my own urine, turn it to steam, rig it thru my condenser then collect the steam cos we don't like sodium fluoride in the tap water, we don't like water bills and the supermarket has stopped selling 99c gallon deionized water bottles
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[15:12:57] <ssi> too quiet in here!
[15:13:07] * Deejay makes some noise
[15:13:47] <ssi> DEEE JAY, MAKE SOME NOIIIISSEEEEE
[15:13:53] <Deejay> :D
[15:14:57] <dr0w> Morning, I'm revisiting spindle encoder for small lathe.. I have slotted wheel and opto-sensor similar to
http://7xcnc.com/hardware/encoder/
[15:15:30] <ssi> dr0w: I made one for one of my lathes
[15:15:38] <dr0w> Seems like I was looking at using opamp comparator to clean up pulse edges, didn't know if you guys could offer any input on this?
[15:15:51] <ssi> I used a schmidt trigger
[15:16:14] <ssi> here's mine
[15:16:14] <ssi> https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-0/p206x206/205204_655375525742_5631970_n.jpg?oh=408732f7952a1257adaca8836079a36d&oe=56C31B83&__gda__=1455211609_62a18ee7c122da1dfc5f00848d277b71
[15:17:27] <dr0w> ssi: that was the other approach I saw
[15:17:28] <ssi> here's the straight signals from the optos:
[15:17:29] <ssi> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash2/v/t1.0-9/221664_655377352082_5844353_n.jpg?oh=89bfa2c08df8f69c980a1c582451a85d&oe=56C8666A
[15:17:34] <ssi> https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/207897_655377411962_259243_n.jpg?oh=756768302a1b8c802b42c6cafcbb92d2&oe=56B4A1D2
[15:17:39] <ssi> after adding schmidt triggers
[15:18:02] <dr0w> ic similar to 74LS14?
[15:18:13] <ssi> yeah I believe that's exactly what I used
[15:18:43] <ssi> I dunno, I had a bunch of bags of logic ICs around and I just scrounged fro whatever I had on hand :0
[15:19:12] <dr0w> yeah.. that's what I was thinking.. I bet I have a 7414... somewhere ;)
[15:19:26] <ssi> comparator is overkill
[15:25:29] <dr0w> ssi: thanks for the feedback
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[15:27:50] <ssi> no prob
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[15:39:47] <dr0w> hmm.. looks like schmitt-triggers with 3.3v logic output and through-hole format are unicorns
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[15:43:36] <pcw_home> 74HC14 is available in through hole
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[15:44:56] <pcw_home> (HC is 2 to 6V VCC)
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[15:45:48] <pcw_home> in will _not_ be 5V tolerant with 3.3V VCC like some newer parts
[15:45:56] <pcw_home> it will
[15:47:37] <dr0w> ahh! thanks pcw_home
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[15:59:57] <dr0w> ssi: btw.. what was the consideration for using three opto interrupters?
[16:01:10] <ssi> A/B/Z
[16:01:29] <ssi> the third is index... one slot in the wheel is deeper, and the Z opto is mounted deeper, so it only triggers a pulse on the deep slot
[16:01:33] <ssi> that's my index slot
[16:02:24] <dr0w> gotcha
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[17:05:23] <ssi> pcw_home: what's the significance of the Unit Number in sserial?
[17:06:24] <pcw_home> it can be used in the hal naming scheme instead of the hardware tree representation
[17:06:31] <ssi> ah I see
[17:06:46] <Jymmm> I like trees!
[17:07:43] <pcw_home> so if you have 5 or 8 sserial devices plugged into a 7I44 you can swap cables around without disaster
[17:07:59] <ssi> that could actually be very useful for me in the future :)
[17:14:17] <ssi> oh god the cricket is still in here :(
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[17:17:16] <JT-Shop> get some entomopathogenic fungus Metarhizium anisopliae
[17:18:31] <ssi> no clue where one would get entomopathogenic fungus Metarhizium anisopliae
[17:19:30] <jdh> amazon?
[17:20:07] <ssi> that's where I get everything else
[17:20:16] <ssi> I got a gallon of sodium silicate on amazon! :D
[17:21:00] <jdh> I ended up running my mill for the day of a usb stick live image
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[18:04:17] <JT-Shop> yea, I have 24 pieces of squared and sized 7075... time to strap on the nail belt
[18:05:53] <JT-Shop> maybe rent a Mediterranean house gecko, they call the crickets out and eat them
[18:06:03] <ssi> shhh, it shut up for a bit
[18:06:05] <ssi> don't make it mad
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[18:12:10] <maxcnc> Hi all
[18:12:36] <maxcnc> PCW id lake to tell you that 60feet at 7i76e works perfect
[18:14:00] <maxcnc> the mashine itself works now in a hard invirerment Dust water its a stone sculpter ;-)
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[19:16:13] <WZL> bretma1234
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[19:20:50] <cradek> WZL: you might want to change that password now.
[19:21:10] <Tom_itx> naw just leave it..
[19:21:11] <ssi> lol I hate that
[19:22:02] <Tom_itx> once a guy in another channel posted a pic of something he was working on which also included a pic of his open wallet with CC no's showing clearly
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[19:22:32] <Tom_itx> of course we told him..
[19:22:36] <Tom_itx> after we..
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[19:24:14] <WZL> haha F***** multi screen :)
[19:26:47] <WZL> now that I have your attention: what is a better place for the pc mainboard? the back cabinet or the fron panel? I'm will use mesa cards
[19:26:54] <MacGalempsy> hello
[19:27:46] <Tom_itx> WZL whichever will get you the shortest data cables to it and what the mesa card will be hooked to
[19:30:14] <WZL> I will re write my question: what is most trouble prone? the usb cable (touch screen, keyboard, pendrive) or the data cable between mesa cards?
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[19:30:52] <Tom_itx> whichever one isn't properly shielded and grounded
[19:34:03] <PCW> if you have a big distance from the PC to the control box, its better to use on of the Ethernet FPGA cards
[19:35:18] <PCW> see above ^^^
[19:35:20] <PCW> "maxcnc PCW id lake to tell you that 60feet at 7i76e works perfect"
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[19:35:53] <WZL> PCW: is about 2 meters: back panel
https://goo.gl/photos/9ugxdtG9Sx3WhUfU8 and front
https://goo.gl/photos/6WWuxSTPRRm3zVNJA
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[19:36:17] <Tom_itx> wrong button
[19:38:08] <PCW> 2-3 meters is about the limit I would recommend especially for the 7I77 /5i25 or 6I25
[19:38:09] <PCW> any longer and a 7I92/7I77 or 7I76E is better
[19:38:53] <WZL> ok, will be in the back cabinet then
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[19:39:59] <PCW> how far is trouble free depends on grounding and EMI environment
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[19:43:14] <WZL> I just finish the homing switch rebuil and this is a short video :
https://goo.gl/photos/MDMTFJ5B3QnR2FfY7 I know that everyone here likes a cnc video
[19:44:33] <ssi> pcw_home: what's the pd field "param_add" for? Is that the address in the remote's memory space where the pd value lives, in case the host wants to read/write it directly?
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[19:46:25] <aventtini6> hello guys
[19:46:56] <aventtini6> Zeeshan are you on?
[19:47:09] <Tom_itx> i doubt he is right now
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[19:47:23] <aventtini6> i got some news i just got another mikron
[19:47:25] <aventtini6> :d
[19:47:36] <aventtini6> just came today
[19:47:53] <aventtini6> right
[19:47:55] <aventtini6> tom
[19:47:58] <aventtini6> forget
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[20:27:42] <PCW> ssi: yes
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[20:43:12] <ssi> cool thanks
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[21:30:17] <Erant> PCW: Would you happen to know if order 1607 is likely to ship this week? I was planning on taking a day off and doing some work on the mill, but no motion control means no work :)
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[21:31:42] <FinboySlick> Erant: Kids today... In my day, we'd stick the input leads to our tongue and generate the pulses by hand with pressure switches.
[21:32:32] <XXCoder> earth was non-ecludian too, because we walked to school and back, in snow, uphill both ways.
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[21:32:51] <FinboySlick> Back when real men could do process 30khz per tastebud.
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[21:43:04] <cpresser> FinboySlick: i used butterflys for that.
[21:43:36] <FinboySlick> Manly butterflies!
[21:43:42] <cpresser> https://xkcd.com/378/
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[21:50:57] <Erant> FinboySlick: I can do 30kHz, only that'd move my table at...
[21:51:34] <Erant> 10ipm
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[21:51:55] <Erant> or like 3ipm if I keep the electronic gearing on in the servo
[21:51:59] <Erant> (Which I won't)
[21:52:07] <FinboySlick> Hehe. Have to go.
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[21:58:34] <Contract_Pilot> Sup...
[21:58:50] <Contract_Pilot> got my mesa cards today!
[21:59:24] <Contract_Pilot> Not sure what to do with the 7i77
[21:59:36] <Erant> Which one is that one?
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[22:07:25] <Contract_Pilot> for the servo's
[22:09:00] <WZL> I´m waiting for a 7i77 also, is the analog outputs card + encoders + io
[22:09:24] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:12:17] <Contract_Pilot> http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/AK-Parts-Gun-Show-Display-1024x576.jpeg
[22:13:42] <andypugh> FinboySlick: Have you seen:
http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html
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[22:18:50] <Contract_Pilot> had a Solenoid fail in my transmission on the way home not fun creaping in 2nd gear
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[22:30:58] <andypugh> Contract_Pilot: When you say “not sure what to do with it” what do you mean?
[22:31:55] <Contract_Pilot> Yea, not sure if i want to do servo on my G0704 now or just trade it off for 7I76.
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[22:45:14] <andypugh> I take it you don’t have motors and drives then?
[22:49:30] <andypugh> I thought this was funny,(the guy’s reaction) and it shows that stepper machines don’t have to be slow and weak:
https://youtu.be/itL4S6UmsqU?t=2m51s
[22:49:46] <andypugh> But I still think that servos generally perform better.
[22:53:36] <Sync> well, it all depends on the drive
[22:55:52] <Sync> I always wonder about those GMT vises
[22:57:00] <Sync> they are pretty expensive for the chinese vises they are
[22:57:16] <ssi> they used to be pretty reasonably priced
[22:57:18] <ssi> I wanted to buy one
[22:57:24] <ssi> but now they're almost as much as a kurt
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[22:59:46] <Sync> I don't like that style of vise anymore
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[23:00:08] <Tom_itx> so just buy a kurt instead tehn
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[23:01:59] <Sync> I got two grinding vises
[23:02:23] <Sync> as I need to hold long parts quite often
[23:04:26] <Sync> and they came as a matched pair, they are within 2µm
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[23:12:38] <JT-Shop> you ought to see the deer run when the feeder goes off... they only go 50 yards and stop then walk back for chow
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[23:25:30] <JT-Shop> is this somewhat current?
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?EMC_With_Custom_Kernel
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[23:45:14] <Sync> I need to stop watching people using tormach machines
[23:45:41] <Sync> I am really not sure what to think of them
[23:47:05] <ssi> lol what do you mean
[23:47:32] <JT-Shop> you can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant
[23:48:42] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[23:50:51] <Sync> well, they are not using proper machine cabling and stuff
[23:50:56] <Sync> but I guess you get what you pay for
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