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[00:01:30] <XXCoder> lol andypugh
[00:03:02] <XXCoder> wow
[00:03:14] <XXCoder> 201 type light bulbs is hard to find
[00:10:30] <zeeshan> lol
[00:10:51] <zeeshan> to me i think code should be easy to follow
[00:10:51] <XXCoder> if someone chopped both my hands off
[00:10:57] <zeeshan> regex isn't easy to follow
[00:11:05] <XXCoder> I can still count to number of matching bulbs for my van dome lights.
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[00:24:42] <bobo_> zeeshan: not to throw more ?in your spindle Power ideas, have you or ssi or Pete at least looked at "phaseperfect.com"
[00:26:13] <zeeshan> bobo im pretty decided on modern controls
[00:26:17] <zeeshan> the fanuc stuff is too expensive to work w/
[00:26:25] <zeeshan> i already got them on ebay :P
[00:26:29] <zeeshan> im gonna try playing with their servo drives though
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[00:54:11] <zeeshan> http://www.industry.siemens.com/topics/global/en/cnc4you/real-life-stories/PublishingImages/sidecar/B03c_Siemens-Haller-Kottmaier_IMG_3029.jpg
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[00:54:18] <zeeshan> why hello there
[00:54:37] <Mac-phone> hello to you too
[00:54:44] <zeeshan> not you!
[00:54:45] <zeeshan> :P
[00:54:48] <zeeshan> the pic i posted
[00:54:52] <zeeshan> but hello to you too!
[00:55:55] <Mac-phone> oh just came on so thought you were being friendly :p
[00:56:05] <andypugh> Two of my favourite things combined there. And girl.
[00:56:17] <zeeshan> i was saying hello to the side car :-)
[00:56:17] <zeeshan> hjahah
[00:57:16] <Mac-phone> ah. now im feeling like I missed out :(
[00:57:23] <zeeshan> http://www.industry.siemens.com/topics/global/en/cnc4you/real-life-stories/PublishingImages/sidecar/B03c_Siemens-Haller-Kottmaier_IMG_3029.jpg
[00:58:04] <Mac-phone> lol three sweet thangs
[00:58:08] <andypugh> Is it a Ural or a BMW?
[00:58:43] <Mac-phone> rode a ural across Vietnam. what a turd
[00:58:51] <zeeshan> http://www.industry.siemens.com/topics/global/en/cnc4you/real-life-stories/pages/sinumerik-840d-sl-successful-in-a-racing-sidecar.aspx
[00:58:53] <zeeshan> it doesnt say
[01:04:48] <malcom2073_> Sup Mac-phone? Phonin it up?
[01:05:18] <Mac-phone> watching season 3 of hemlock grove
[01:06:31] <Mac-phone> and playing battlefield 1943. boring day
[01:07:14] <Mac-phone> malcom2073_ you millin today?
[01:07:31] <malcom2073_> Nah, I started re-making my pully adapter though, got the outside dimention turned, need to do the inside still
[01:11:14] <TekniQue> zeeshan: Running my buddy's DMC50H
[01:11:57] <andypugh> I think the SSD on my Mill has died. Though I guess it is possible that it is just full.
[01:12:19] <malcom2073_> Whups
[01:12:20] <andypugh> I suppose I should boot from USB and have a look
[01:12:26] <malcom2073_> Linux doesn't like a full hard drive
[01:12:47] <andypugh> No, I have had it before and it doesn’t fail elegantly.
[01:13:02] <andypugh> It is only an 8GB drive.
[01:13:24] <andypugh> But, anyway, for time being, it is time to sleep.
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[01:24:21] <tiwake> PetefromTn_: poke
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[01:43:12] <XXCoder> man
[01:43:18] <XXCoder> 208 bulb type is no more
[01:43:33] <XXCoder> but I tested led one and it works. I guess I gonna use clips or something
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[01:59:57] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[02:01:33] <tiwake> PetefromTn_: I want you to hold my hand while I order this stuff
[02:01:59] <PetefromTn_> sorry man I am NOT into holding hands
[02:02:06] <tiwake> lol XD
[02:02:58] <PetefromTn_> honestly like I told you yesterday I am probably not the guy you want to emulate when it comes to anodizing as I have only been somewhat successful
[02:03:16] <XXCoder> yeah PetefromTn_ dont into holding hands
[02:03:20] <XXCoder> hes into holding something else
[02:03:59] <PetefromTn_> what is it you want exactly?
[02:05:29] <tiwake> nothing really, just being silly, acting slightly more insecure than I actually am about the anodizing topic
[02:05:43] <TekniQue> zeeshan:
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12031482_10153215099351662_1689116572833991439_o.jpg
[02:06:06] <XXCoder> TekniQue: whats that thing for?
[02:06:14] <XXCoder> chip and dips tray? heh
[02:06:53] <PetefromTn_> I just bought the degreaser stuff and the sealer bath stuff from caswell along with the ti wire
[02:07:53] <PetefromTn_> I was trying to use the solvent based dyes from Capthindsight but had no luck with them yet but I have yet to try them in an airbrush as he suggested.
[02:08:58] <TekniQue> XXCoder: rotor for a water brak
[02:09:00] <TekniQue> brake
[02:09:38] <XXCoder> interesting
[02:09:57] <PetefromTn_> ooh horiz CNC mill?
[02:09:58] <XXCoder> well as backup it can make an excellent chip dip array tray! lol
[02:10:22] <XXCoder> my work has a few and they are pretty amazing
[02:10:30] <TekniQue> PetefromTn_: yes, Deckel Maho DMC50H
[02:10:40] <PetefromTn_> sweet
[02:11:40] <TekniQue> material is 7075
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[02:30:40] <TekniQue> zeeshan: Programming this machine is a real pain, because I don't have a good programming manual for it and I don't have a matching post processor for Mastercam either
[02:30:52] <TekniQue> I'm running a fanuc post that I hacked to make work
[02:31:00] <TekniQue> but it's not perfect
[02:31:10] <TekniQue> drill cycles don't work for example
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[02:31:18] <TekniQue> have to write those by hand
[02:32:46] <TekniQue> because the format of the G81/G82/G83 parameters are just completely different in every way
[02:33:01] <TekniQue> thery're so different they shouldn't have the same G code number
[02:34:22] <XXCoder> I do think gcode is due for rewrite and re-standardize
[02:34:38] <XXCoder> for example nonnumber charactor should follow types
[02:36:51] <TekniQue> yeah g-code is very far from being a standard
[02:37:11] <TekniQue> so much crap that differs between machines
[02:37:24] <XXCoder> I would try to keep some stuff same, like most g
[02:37:27] <TekniQue> very few codes that work the same everywhere
[02:37:31] <XXCoder> but some needs to be changed
[02:38:08] <TekniQue> and there's even shit like some machines wanting G01 while others want only G1
[02:40:44] <XXCoder> fun
[02:42:12] <Tom_itx> i hate that
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[02:50:51] <tiwake> PetefromTn_: you use this stuff? www.caswellplating.com/aluminum-deoxidizer-desmut-1-quart.html
[02:53:33] <PetefromTn_> no I did not
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[03:05:13] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_, what you been working on this evening?
[03:11:12] <PetefromTn_> working on these exhaust manifold parts still LOL
[03:11:41] <XXCoder> hmm
[03:11:50] <XXCoder> is there any good clips thats tiny
[03:11:56] <XXCoder> like under cm
[03:12:05] <ssi> hm
[03:12:52] <Wolf_> c clip? paper clip? ammo clip?
[03:13:01] <ssi> movie c lip
[03:13:11] <XXCoder> oh wire clip
[03:13:48] <XXCoder> I cant buy 208 light bulbs anywhere so I'm using led lights and clips to attach it so it will light up
[03:14:31] <Wolf_> might need to mod the original bulb holders
[03:14:42] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:14:56] <XXCoder> I would rather attach other type of holder
[03:15:06] <XXCoder> but it dont look moddable by much
[03:15:31] <XXCoder> hmm wonder if sockets for certain types are buyable, lemme look bulb type first
[03:15:32] <Wolf_> or solder direct to the dash pcb
[03:16:08] <XXCoder> yeeep
http://www.amazon.com/Truck-Light-Socket-Holder-Connector/dp/B00AKX813U/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1445742957&sr=1-1&keywords=194+bulb+socket
[03:16:27] <XXCoder> better option than bare wire connections
[03:16:31] <XXCoder> with clips
[03:18:10] <Wolf_> if it will fit the holes
[03:18:28] <XXCoder> there is area where there is 3 metal prongs
[03:18:35] <XXCoder> 2 to hold middle of bulb
[03:18:43] <XXCoder> and other one to touch bottom
[03:20:10] <XXCoder> one of those is slightly larger than that space
[03:20:27] <XXCoder> but surrounding space is larger. wish i was better on soldering
[03:21:45] <Wolf_> you sure its a 208 light ?
[03:22:03] <XXCoder> its only one I cannot find and its for "reading light"
[03:22:20] <Wolf_> not many odd bulbs in cars...
[03:22:22] <XXCoder> rest of bulbs I already bought and replaced (besides headlights)
[03:23:43] <XXCoder> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53432577/Lightsnissanquest.png
[03:24:11] <Wolf_> base same as a 194?
[03:24:19] <XXCoder> nah
[03:24:28] <XXCoder> it looks almost like flashlight old style bulb
[03:24:47] <Wolf_> ok, bayonet lug base
[03:24:48] <Wolf_> ?
[03:25:35] <XXCoder> it is
[03:26:43] <Wolf_> http://www.muchbuy.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bayonet-type-bulb.jpg
[03:28:02] <Wolf_> or
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/28790.gif
[03:28:24] <Wolf_> maybe T-3 1/4
[03:28:47] <XXCoder> its not double end
[03:29:04] <Wolf_> mini bay
[03:30:08] <Wolf_> or a BA9S
[03:32:08] <Wolf_> http://www.globalpowerleds.com/m/eweb/uploadfile/201271612151766.JPG
[03:36:39] <XXCoder> .36 in diameter
[03:37:02] <XXCoder> may be BA95
[03:37:36] <XXCoder> 9.15 mm
[03:39:41] <XXCoder> height is pretty close too .528
[03:39:51] <XXCoder> it may be close enough
[03:42:59] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/Water-White-Backup-Cleaning-Clothing/dp/B00Q3X8Q7C/ref=sr_1_9?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1445744317&sr=1-9&keywords=ba95+led
[03:43:09] <XXCoder> probably powerful lol
[03:45:40] <Wolf_> hah yeah
[03:45:50] <XXCoder> 7 watts
[03:45:54] <XXCoder> my regular is 10 watts
[03:45:59] <XXCoder> it would be dang bright
[03:46:07] <XXCoder> built in tanning in van? ;)
[03:46:18] <Wolf_> nope
[03:46:26] <Wolf_> not much UV out of a led
[03:46:41] <XXCoder> shh trying to sell it as such lol
[03:46:42] <XXCoder> jk
[03:48:32] <XXCoder> lucky that my holder dont depend on pin position
[03:48:40] <XXCoder> so ba95 ba9 ba9s is fine
[03:48:59] <XXCoder> it just directly clips body not socket insert and turn
[03:49:01] <Wolf_> nice :) beats trying to rig something to work
[03:49:05] <XXCoder> indeed
[03:49:48] <XXCoder> thanks on helping me figure what it is
[03:50:08] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/Genssi-Bayonet-single-contact-White/dp/B00FEQXJBM
[03:51:01] <XXCoder> found 8 pack for cheaper but dunno. more bluish
[03:51:02] <Wolf_> I’ve up-fitted least 5 cars with leds :D
[03:51:14] <XXCoder> my van is nearly all leds now
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[03:52:15] <Wolf_> My vw is almost there
[03:52:33] <XXCoder> I need to find better led turn lights
[03:52:36] <XXCoder> 1056 or 7
[03:52:45] <XXCoder> or is it 2056
[03:52:51] <Wolf_> 2 cornering lights, front turns and all the rear lights
[03:53:00] <Wolf_> only ones left
[03:53:03] <XXCoder> 1156
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[03:56:08] <bobo_> Wolf whats latest indecision about the Van-Norman ?
[03:56:26] <XXCoder> Wolf_:
http://www.amazon.com/SINEDY-SMD5050-Interior-Shining-Brightly/dp/B00T2R77Z8
[03:56:28] <Wolf_> probably gonna pass on it
[03:56:30] <XXCoder> that is.. interestng
[03:56:47] <XXCoder> too big but yea. adoptable
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[03:56:58] <Wolf_> yeah I need to get some of them for my camper
[03:57:46] <tiwake> PetefromTn_: what is your email address?
[03:57:57] <XXCoder> found smaller version
[03:58:00] <XXCoder> just over 2 bucks nice
[03:58:37] <Wolf_> http://www.amazon.com/LEMONBEST-Energy-saving-Vehicle-Interior-Lighting/dp/B00H9BOQEE/ref=pd_sim_sbs_263_8?ie=UTF8&dpID=41itXyfAa%2BL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0HY0RV6EE65W1QX5GJBP
[03:58:51] <Wolf_> cob led are fun
[03:59:11] <XXCoder> I rather get corncob style ones not those
[03:59:21] <XXCoder> so it can use reflector
[03:59:46] <Wolf_> led kinda suck using incan reflectors
[04:00:02] <XXCoder> not when it has leds facing all sides
[04:00:13] <XXCoder> I just swapped console lights with leds, looks perfect
[04:00:34] <XXCoder> only dark spot is design flaw not lighting. I guess they didnt care about engine temp.
[04:00:56] <Wolf_> guess depends on the application, led fogs/headlights
[04:01:07] <bobo_> Wolf other than the price ,what was the interest in that mill . table size - dual spindle ?
[04:01:53] <Wolf_> rigidness, overall size
[04:03:04] <bobo_> kinda above the Bridgeport then
[04:04:51] <Wolf_> yeah, partly leaning towards a bridgeport type mill tho, still a toss up between solid and flexible usage
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[04:08:15] <tiwake> woo, just spent $200 on anodizing stuff
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[04:08:39] <bobo_> Wolf can't think of a brand of mill that is of that era that has at least a R8 or better tool holder as standerd
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[04:10:49] <t12> cheap indian ebay mt5 test bar not that straight
[04:11:04] <t12> however expensive mt5 test bar is expensive
[04:12:29] <bobo_> Wolf later Kerney&T mills had 40 &50 taper , and are of similar size
[04:15:33] <Wolf_> there is a later van norman on there that should be a cat50 i think
[04:16:13] <XXCoder> cat50 wow wire tech has advanced a lot since cat5 lol
[04:16:15] <XXCoder> jk
[04:16:34] <Wolf_> 50NST is same as a cat50 tool holder right?
[04:17:33] <Wolf_> http://york.craigslist.org/tld/5258435244.html
[04:17:49] <Wolf_> but cost is a big jump from $500
[04:19:03] <bobo_> compare it to a K&T or Cinn. as to price size etc. 50nst is close enought to cat50 as i remember except drive dog size
[04:19:43] <bobo_> drive dogs can be changed
[04:23:35] <Wolf_> that is a plus
[04:25:46] <bobo_> drive dogs fit into slots at outside face of spindle, held on by a screw /dog
[04:26:10] <Wolf_> that 24MA is a even bigger machine too lol
[04:27:01] <bobo_> no problem just a bigger shop then
[04:29:41] <Wolf_> wonder how heavy that beast it
[04:29:44] <Wolf_> is*
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[04:30:12] <XXCoder> bahh
[04:30:13] <XXCoder> http://www.feit.com/led-lamps/performance/Performance_LED/Performance_LED/Chandelier
[04:30:25] <XXCoder> it does not say what socket type it uses
[04:31:13] <bobo_> Wolf with your equipment --weight can not be the problem
[04:31:32] <Wolf_> not really :)
[04:33:06] <Wolf_> could be a bitch if its over 5k
[04:33:29] <Wolf_> forklift is only 5k
[04:33:35] <Wolf_> other is 3k
[04:33:44] <XXCoder> ah e12
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[04:49:56] <zeeshan> TekniQue: sorry wasnt here
[04:50:00] <zeeshan> i love the deckels :D
[04:50:15] <zeeshan> it uses sinumerik control the manual can be easily found on the net! :P
[04:50:39] <zeeshan> did you use the sintrain software?
[04:51:03] <t12> my hokey headstock aligner works better than expected:
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/yppw3z66nb6vkyw/AAAJQPE-idALqBqqqpawR3TJa
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[05:42:46] <XXCoder> t12: nice
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[07:41:50] <Deejay> moin
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[08:22:19] <justanotheruser> Am I just looking in the wrong places, or are hobbing machines all absurdly expensive
[08:22:57] <XXCoder> dunno
[08:27:36] <archivist> justanotheruser, usually silly prices, but now you can hob cheaply with a milling machine and linuxcnc
[08:28:07] <justanotheruser> you mean hob, or cut gears
[08:28:11] <archivist> does need to be a rigid machine and it will be easier if 5 axis
[08:28:33] <archivist> I mean hob, I hob and cut gears
[08:30:08] <renesis> hes got pics, ask him for pics
[08:30:13] <archivist> and now that the differential comp has been written helicals should be come easier
[08:30:34] <XXCoder> he also has pics of pics, ask him for pics of pics
[08:30:50] * archivist denies everything :)
[08:32:00] <archivist> I have a real hobbing machine with linuxcnc on it
[08:32:24] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchv4page=1&searchstr=barber+colman
[08:33:52] <archivist> and part way through adding the spindle encoder to the 5 axis mill to enable hobbing
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[08:36:47] <archivist> justanotheruser, better to say wa
[08:37:04] <justanotheruser> archivist: I'm confused why you would need 5 axis'
[08:37:05] <archivist> what type of gears you want to make
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[08:37:58] <justanotheruser> For the moment only spur
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[08:38:03] <archivist> on a helical the gear has angled teeth also the gear needs to rotate and the hob has a helix
[08:38:38] <archivist> you still need to account for the hob angle
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[08:39:18] <archivist> a hobbing machine rotates the head to that angle
[08:39:33] <justanotheruser> So really when you say you need a milling machine, you mean you need a stationary drill facing downwards which will be orthoganol to the tailstock?
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[08:40:09] <archivist> drill ?
[08:40:33] <justanotheruser> well something that rotates
[08:40:37] <archivist> a hob has a spiral cutting tooth
[08:40:55] <justanotheruser> which has to rotate
[08:41:00] <archivist> yes
[08:41:19] <justanotheruser> I see
[08:41:31] <archivist> it has a thread form so needs to be at a small angle (thread angle)
[08:42:44] <justanotheruser> $49K
http://www.amazon.com/MechPro-more-YB3185H-Hobbing-Machine/dp/B00KCDB6CG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1445761089&sr=8-1&keywords=gear+hobbing+machine
[08:42:44] <archivist> some cheat and put the table at an angle on a horizontal mill to get that angle
[08:42:51] <justanotheruser> better make some fancy gears
[08:43:15] <XXCoder> planium gears
[08:44:25] <archivist> no need to buy new
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dowding-Doll-V8-gear-hobbing-machine-61-246rpm-with-equipment-3-750-00-Plus-/141445353665
[08:45:22] <justanotheruser> that looks like it is made to make massive gears
[08:45:58] <archivist> mine is for watch sized gears
[08:46:09] <archivist> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PFAUTER-RS-00-Gear-Hobbing-Machine-with-Change-Gears-/271488723020
[08:46:24] <justanotheruser> that is yours
[08:46:42] <justanotheruser> I mean, not yours but the same model?
[08:46:44] <archivist> mine is max 1" dia
[08:47:07] <archivist> mine
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchv4page=1&searchstr=barber+colman
[08:47:54] <archivist> too heavy for a one man lift but tiny in hobbing machine terms
[08:49:44] <Sync> if I had the space I'd get a rs00
[08:49:50] <Sync> it is a very nice machine
[08:50:03] <XXCoder> if its worth it, build a shed for it
[08:50:33] <archivist> eventually you run out of space for sheds :)
[08:50:44] <XXCoder> time ord tech
[08:50:46] <XXCoder> lord
[08:50:48] <justanotheruser> archivist: what constrains it to 1in max? Your gear cutter set?
[08:51:16] <archivist> the casting and height the head can be set
[08:51:56] <archivist> not much travel either so a limit to face width
[08:52:37] <archivist> it was designed as an auto loading small gear mass manufacture machine
[08:52:39] <Sync> yeah that one is tiny
[08:53:42] <archivist> first production off it when I got it running
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=speedo
[08:54:21] <justanotheruser> images take forever to load :(
[08:54:41] <archivist> serving off adsl line
[08:54:52] <justanotheruser> ...why?
[08:55:23] <archivist> because I can,
[08:55:48] <justanotheruser> your pictures need coins in them
[08:56:01] <archivist> actually a real server would cost quite a lot for the disk pace
[08:56:38] <archivist> countries have different coin sizes
[08:57:09] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2009/2009_08_13_Watch_verge_escape/IMG_0272.JPG
[08:57:10] <XXCoder> just use mm
[08:57:19] <XXCoder> most mm is similiar in size
[08:57:30] <Sync> huh archivist, servers are cheap
[08:57:30] <XXCoder> and all mm (1" type) has same size gap
[08:57:43] <justanotheruser> now make a watch with dime gears
[08:57:58] <XXCoder> dime a dozen
[08:58:00] <archivist> Sync, for waged people maybe
[08:58:00] <justanotheruser> no idea how big the coin with the lady on it is, but that seems really small
[08:59:02] <archivist> I spent more time taking this pic
http://gears.archivist.info/gears/IMG_1214_hires.JPG
[08:59:02] <justanotheruser> are these comparable in size
http://www.collection.archivist.info/showresult.php?prog=1&srcprog=searchv13.php&srcdata=title&Type=PD&Accn_no=9438&subject=27340
[08:59:16] <justanotheruser> oh I remember that pic..
[08:59:25] <justanotheruser> amazing
[09:00:34] <justanotheruser> can you get that precision with a DIY setup combining a milling machine and a perpendicular mounted spindle?
[09:01:21] <archivist> those speedo gears are 8.9mm dia
[09:02:23] <Sync> well dunno archivist, if I had no money I'd get an ovh vps for 3.5€/mo and deal with the 10G I get or use their object sorage for even less
[09:02:44] <archivist> you need a rotary table set at the helix angle of the hob and spindle encoder and the correct path in gcode
[09:03:16] <justanotheruser> Digitalocean will give you basic VPS for $5/mo
[09:03:52] <archivist> I have 15gb on the web dir here
[09:04:32] <justanotheruser> they allow 20, but that is cutting it close
[09:04:41] <justanotheruser> not here to try to get you to move to a VPS though :P
[09:05:32] <Sync> yeah 15g will compress nicely if you just do a slight quality reduction on all the images tho
[09:08:14] <archivist> I lied, 66.2 gb
[09:08:30] <justanotheruser> mostly images?
[09:09:11] <archivist> the only extra I pay for is the fixed ip
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[09:15:24] <archivist> a page I created in about 2006-7
http://www.collection.archivist.info/hobbing.html
[09:15:35] <archivist> now all possible
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[10:59:42] * jthornton has fixed the terrible recent used in gtk file chooser for my program.
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[11:31:24] <TekniQue> zeeshan|2: The thing is that the control are customised to the machine
[11:32:04] <TekniQue> I have a bunch of books, everything but the programming manual
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[12:01:53] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/gtk/index.html
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[12:04:55] <Sync> bah
[12:05:00] <Sync> damn vfd is still not talkative
[12:11:44] <jthornton> electro shock therapy is in order then
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[12:27:04] <fenn> try candles and wine
[12:27:44] <XXCoder> http://www.eliomotors.com/come-along-on-the-journey-2/
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[12:39:35] <Sync> dat rectangular tubing
[12:40:57] <Sync> too bad it is fwd
[12:41:54] <XXCoder> well it HAS to be fwd
[12:42:27] <XXCoder> you probably can do retrofit using motorcycle motor though, in rear
[12:42:39] <XXCoder> just not as good
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[12:42:53] <XXCoder> one wheel slips you lose all power
[12:51:57] <jthornton> lol they are still selling reservations
[12:57:47] <Sync> XXCoder: it doesn't have to be fwd
[12:58:05] <XXCoder> whats left? all wheel?
[12:58:37] <XXCoder> bedtime later
[12:58:56] <XXCoder> ding me with answer so I can read it in highlight log lol
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[13:03:03] <fenn> i would want a diesel electric series hybrid to have direct drive from the motor to the rear wheel (with a clutch of course) and electric motors on the front wheels
[13:03:17] <fenn> i guess that would be series/parallel
[13:04:36] <fenn> match the diesel motor power to slightly above the minimal needed power for cruise at highway speeds
[13:06:52] <Sync> XXCoder: rwd, of course
[13:07:34] <Sync> that's not what you want fenn, you need some power overhead for passing and elasticity
[13:07:46] <fenn> power for acceleration comes from the electric motors
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[13:12:08] <fenn> if you're just going for maximum acceleration then use a rocket turbine
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[13:59:33] <SpeedEvil> Shaped charge.
[14:04:04] <Topy44> hi
[14:05:07] <Topy44> i am still designing a quick-change system for our 3d printer, i went with locating pins in the end for positioning, now i am trying to figure out an elegant way to fix the plate to the base
[14:05:09] <Topy44> http://dump.t44.org/2015-10-25_15-04-01.png
[14:05:22] <Topy44> the upper plate is the removable one
[14:05:39] <Topy44> i need some kind of clamping mechanism or such... any ideas?
[14:06:22] <Topy44> how do commercial systems solve this?
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[14:20:04] <fenn> magnets
[14:21:52] <fenn> bonus feature: if the printer head crashes, it falls off
[14:22:53] <archivist> magnets and a kinematic mount even better
[14:22:56] <fenn> with the locking pins maybe not
[14:23:08] <fenn> locating pins i mean
[14:25:46] <zeeshan|2> my the locating pins out of noodles
[14:25:51] <zeeshan|2> then it will fall off! :P
[14:25:59] <zeeshan|2> my = maker
[14:26:01] <zeeshan|2> sadjashklhsad
[14:26:51] <fenn> makernoodle
[14:26:55] <fenn> let
[14:27:00] <fenn> let's do a kickstarter
[14:27:20] <fenn> edible pasta creations for all
[14:27:35] <fenn> it will be like aluminum t-slot extrusion, but made of pasta
[14:28:05] <zeeshan|2> lol
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[14:35:14] <Topy44> instead of a 3d printer that prints edibles make an edible 3d printer. yeah. i like it.
[14:35:36] <Topy44> fenn: same idea was mentioned in another channel where i asked, i do like that idea
[14:35:51] <Topy44> one question: how do i glue in the magnets? the head can get a bit warm (maybe 50°C or so)
[14:36:01] <Topy44> not so hot the magnets derate too much
[14:36:20] <archivist> Topy44, press in
[14:36:25] <Topy44> hm
[14:38:08] <Topy44> and yes, i do like the idea that if it crashes it might just fall off instead of self-destructing :)
[14:39:00] <Topy44> what should i use for the other side? a piece of steel? another magnet?
[14:39:13] <Topy44> (the construction itself is all aluminium and stainless steel)
[14:40:12] <zeeshan|2> archivist: my chuck is made in uk :D
[14:40:41] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/ZIczyMv.jpg
[14:40:56] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/oaEF24i.jpg
[14:40:58] <zeeshan|2> heard of this company?
[14:42:30] <archivist> yaknow one could put the writing up the right way!
[14:42:50] <zeeshan|2> no your website is slow in downloading pics
[14:42:53] <zeeshan|2> i make you suffer as well! :P
[14:43:04] <Tom_itx> or even rotate the pic if you're too lazy to spin the spindle!
[14:43:11] <zeeshan|2> bahahha
[14:43:25] <archivist> http://www.kitagawaeurope.com/power-chucks
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[14:44:31] <zeeshan|2> i foudn the website
[14:44:34] <zeeshan|2> but have you heard of em?
[14:44:34] <archivist> I think a japanese company I wonder if they bought one of the british chuck makers
[14:44:35] <zeeshan|2> i havent
[14:44:43] <archivist> yes
[14:44:45] <andypugh> When writing the binary hybrid iso, how long would would the dd stage normally take?
[14:44:46] <zeeshan|2> cause its stamped w/ "UK" on it
[14:45:25] <archivist> there were a few good british chuck makers, likely they bought one
[14:45:51] <andypugh> Ah, forget that question, the second attempt took a few minutes. The previous attempt took 2 hours to write 300MB of the 1.2GB
[14:46:13] <zeeshan|2> jeez :P
[14:46:17] <Tom_itx> kick start it next time
[14:47:18] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2, you lookin for jaws for it?
[14:47:32] <zeeshan|2> yes
[14:47:41] <zeeshan|2> but gonna buy right now
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[14:47:45] <zeeshan|2> but just researching
[14:47:51] <zeeshan|2> i havent paid much attention to the mechanical stuff
[14:50:01] <archivist> that made me look at my starturn lathe chuck but it is a Yamakawa
[14:51:10] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/7GlBCCi.jpg
[14:51:14] <zeeshan|2> i wonder how much i can sell these relays for
[14:51:16] <zeeshan|2> useless to me
[14:51:23] <zeeshan|2> i like the din style wago
[14:52:43] <Tom_itx> 2 different types
[14:52:49] <zeeshan|2> yes
[14:53:09] <zeeshan|2> i dont like how big they are
[14:53:12] <zeeshan|2> very old school :P
[14:53:20] <anomynous> schunk had a cool chuck. You could press a button and remove/insert jaws freely
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[15:03:04] <archivist> zeeshan|2, sometimes have to be big for the contact rating
[15:03:17] <zeeshan|2> those wago ones are 30A
[15:03:21] <zeeshan|2> max
[15:03:23] <zeeshan|2> and they're tiny!
[15:03:28] <zeeshan|2> like .625 wide
[15:14:03] <Sync> zeeshan|2: those are cheap relays
[15:14:10] <Sync> new under $6 at farnell
[15:14:11] <zeeshan|2> are they
[15:14:17] <zeeshan|2> link
[15:14:45] <Sync> http://de.farnell.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Search?st=omron+my2&catalogId=15001&categoryId=700000006250&langId=-3&storeId=10161
[15:15:06] <Sync> they have gotten a tad more expensive, but I ordered similar ones for less
[15:15:08] <zeeshan|2> 6.44 euro
[15:15:18] <zeeshan|2> so 9bux canadian
[15:15:20] <Sync> for one
[15:15:26] <zeeshan|2> i just want $50 us for em
[15:15:26] <zeeshan|2> :)
[15:15:29] <zeeshan|2> therees a lot
[15:15:45] <zeeshan|2> i might actually give them to my friend
[15:15:51] <zeeshan|2> lets see if he can use em
[15:16:46] <Sync> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51VTz0Ej1OL._SX425_.jpg zeeshan|2 explain this shit to me, why would someone install that crap
[15:17:39] <zeeshan|2> no idea what that is
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[15:38:24] <Sync> zeeshan|2: aftermarked lsd "kit"
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[15:43:38] <zeeshan|2> oh god
[15:43:38] <zeeshan|2> haha
[15:43:43] <zeeshan|2> might as well weld your diff
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[15:45:21] <Sync> I mean, I actually engineered something similar
[15:45:24] <Sync> but with actual ramps
[15:46:15] <ssi> zeeshan|2: we welded the diff on a car once
[15:46:19] <ssi> it was miserable to drive
[15:46:51] <zeeshan|2> lol
[15:46:57] <zeeshan|2> drifto
[15:47:13] <pcw_home> fine if you never turn
[15:47:46] <ssi> yep, chatters and hops all over the place when you turn
[15:48:01] <Sync> not if you doriftoooooo
[15:48:09] <ssi> it didn't have enough powertodoriftoooo
[15:48:23] <ssi> we also cut the roof off with a sawzall
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[15:48:41] <Sync> > not enough power
[15:48:47] <Sync> you mean it had too much traction
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[15:49:10] <ssi> no, I'm not that optimistic :)
[15:49:43] <Sync> put some 20 year old winter asphalt cutting discs on it and most any car will be able to break traction
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[15:50:35] <ssi> found it
[15:50:36] <ssi> https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/298358_4083905650700_424390471_n.jpg?oh=5f95d076f4cc61b36f11a5ab782a8cb3&oe=56C182AB
[15:50:39] <ssi> bam
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[15:58:48] <JT-Shop> ssi, got a very basic GUI added lol
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[16:35:58] <anomynous_> ssi if you dont have enough power, you steer and then counter steer with gas pedal to drift ;D
[16:36:27] <anomynous_> or then you just need moar speed
[16:38:37] <anomynous_> lesson. always drive straight untill you go fast enough to side slide turns with your welded rear underpowered race car
[16:38:55] <anomynous_> or maybe not
[16:38:57] <anomynous_> :]
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[16:54:44] <anomynous_> after i got my license i went to ice track with my father and he would randomly pull the hand brake at turns. Just for the sake of teaching me to counter steer. He also taught me how to reverse and turn the car on same lane fast without going back and fourth many times over. Not very useful today. Except for being dangerous in traffic ;D
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[17:02:02] <archivist> with each new to me vehicle I go out in the snow/ice to practice on the roads, wonderful fun, becomes harder to lose control because you get used to catching the skids
[17:03:00] <archivist> be careful if you try that in a 4wd, you arrive at bends without enough braking distance
[17:09:02] <anomynous_> well, 4wd doesnt stop any faster. Just accelerates. With two wheels instead of one ;D
[17:09:36] <anomynous_> i once drifted out of road when playing two lanes going in one direction and empty road ;D
[17:09:48] <archivist> so much more traction it is easy to get very fast
[17:10:16] <anomynous_> and then i would be smiling like a happy boy at road side stopping cars and asking if they have a tow rope ;D
[17:11:53] <archivist> and you can bend a landrover wing on a large snowdrift in the middle of the road...dont ask me how I know
[17:12:03] <andypugh> Last winter I was driving along perfectly happily in about 1mm of snow (just enough to paint the road white) when I decided, on a whim, to check that I could brake. I found that I couldn’t. Nothing bad happened, but I slowed right down and eventually had to abandon the car (4x4) on the first significant incline. The road was a lot colder than the snow, it was freezing into ice.
[17:12:17] <anomynous_> ah i belive thats possible
[17:12:57] <anomynous_> its also possible that you can cross the snow bench by going fast over it. First over yanks the car left, and then back straight when right tires go over
[17:13:02] <andypugh> Driving up the hill, slower, slower, slower… sliding down the hill backwards, no control at all…..
[17:13:04] <anomynous_> if going too slow over it would end up in ditch
[17:13:05] <anomynous_> ;D
[17:13:28] <anomynous_> aaaa
[17:13:43] <anomynous_> andypugh has been driving heavy equipment?
[17:14:07] <andypugh> Not for a long time, and never in snow. We had a JCB at one point.
[17:14:12] <archivist> andypugh, I got half stuck like that, left the wheels spinning slowly the warmed the road surface enough to make slow progress till I was up the hill
[17:14:42] <archivist> that was in a mondeo
[17:15:12] <andypugh> To be honest I wasn’t that keen to be at the top of the hill, as it was follwed by a very narrow downhill road with dry stone walls and ditches.
[17:15:56] <archivist> I needed to get to the top, there it levelled out, didnt fancy the reverse
[17:17:45] <andypugh> You can’t really see that this is moderately steep downhill. It wasn’t my car, either. Imagine it with no grip…
https://goo.gl/maps/N4yN9hjVENu
[17:18:15] <andypugh> (the ditches are deep, and that’s a little bridge ahead)
[17:19:19] <archivist> google maps is a javascript phail on this browser
[17:20:00] <andypugh> There used to be rather more dry-stone walls until someone brought a low-loader with a crane on top down there. (Ignoring many warning signs)
[17:24:14] <Tom_itx> https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.614025,-1.9164539,3a,75y,177.96h,92.95t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sq3W9IoFbwXyKHLFmVu-bjA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
[17:24:20] <Tom_itx> how much narrower could it get?
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[17:30:50] <MrSunshine> hmm do i want high volume or high preasure when moving dust from wood working machines ?
[17:31:10] <andypugh> Follow the road down to the left. The low-loader finally jammed at the white-painted house.
[17:31:17] <Tom_itx> i did
[17:31:53] <andypugh> It isn’t that is it narrower there, as such, but that the walls are backed by earth and won’t move….
[17:32:16] <Tom_itx> all your roads are narrow :)
[17:32:48] <Tom_itx> that looks single lane at best
[17:32:50] <andypugh> That lane is unusually narrow even for the UK.
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[17:33:33] <andypugh> Yes, if you have a wider than normal _car_ you have problems.
[17:34:59] <anomynous_> archivist, saw some russian truck driver doing the same thing ;D I thought he didn't care much for his tires.
[17:36:18] <anomynous_> (he could have backed and shifted his position a bit left or right for better traction on snow instead of packed snow/ice)
[17:36:44] <anomynous_> but backing can be tricky too. You can't really use brake or front will lock and you lose steering. and if you go wrong, you cant go forward
[17:36:58] <archivist> I was leaving the engine at tickover, being gentle
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[17:43:16] <anomynous_> with a truck if it looks like you go to a stop in icy hill, what you can do, is right before you stop, you shift in reverse and reverse back without touching brake
[17:43:32] <anomynous_> might have to go fast ;D
[17:43:49] <anomynous_> never had to do that
[17:44:11] <anomynous_> once i put hand brake and was doing something and the car started sliding backwards because of tires melting ice
[17:44:16] <anomynous_> and not possible to go forward
[17:45:06] <anomynous_> when going backwards, its not possible to get the reverse in anymore.
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[18:03:50] <anomynous_> http://www.rekkakuvat.fi/var/albums/vapaat-kuvat/tuttu-firma-tallakin-tiella.jpg?m=1381917657 i drove things like these for a while. Rear lip in car and exchangable container (like in pic). Pulling different carts from clients to terminal and vice versa and doing some distribution to areas where no terminal was nearby.
[18:04:01] <anomynous_> thing actually. not things.
[18:05:50] <andypugh> Must be exciting in the snow
[18:07:49] <anomynous_> for a while ;) i only drove for one winter, so not much experience there. The wagon has to be loaded so front has more weight and truck must not be too light or the wagon will start pushing the truck in front of it.
[18:13:45] <ssi> I'm really sick of brushing rust :(
[18:15:20] <andypugh> ssi: Juat loeave everything in a 10:1 water:molasses mix for 3 weeks or so.
[18:15:42] <ssi> waaat
[18:15:49] <ssi> I'd need a LOT of molasses for that
[18:16:11] <andypugh> I bought every tin in the shop when I did my Ner-a-Car
[18:16:31] <ssi> I'm working on a two post car lift
[18:16:34] <andypugh> But you can buy it from agricutural suppliers as they use it in bulk in silage (apparently)
[18:16:37] <ssi> the columns are 12x12x120"
[18:16:44] <ssi> I'd also need a hell of a bucket
[18:17:15] <andypugh> If you build a wooden coffin, line it with plastic and interlock the columns with each other it would work
[18:18:04] <andypugh> This is my Ner-a-Car chassis.
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/fegbuaxZTo7wU_uY-ClZpNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[18:18:05] <ssi> I just about have it all done
[18:18:58] <andypugh> Ah, well, OK. Bear it in mind for the future, it takes a long time, but it is zero effort, and the results are good.
[18:19:19] <ssi> gotcha
[18:19:30] <ssi> 3 weeks is longer than I want to wait too
[18:19:44] <ssi> I'm just knocking the surface rust off and painting with rustoleum
[18:20:42] <andypugh> So, I am going to have this part cast:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uAlPT5kN2FhSu0Wyq8sHxdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[18:21:21] <ssi> aluminum or iron?
[18:21:26] <andypugh> Should I make a core-box (a lot of work) or just leave the top solid in the casting and machine it out?
[18:21:29] <andypugh> Iron
[18:21:55] <andypugh> I am tending towards the “not making another blasted core box” policy
[18:22:05] <andypugh> (it’s a one-off, probably)
[18:22:09] <archivist> make a core else the shrinkage will dimple the thick areas
[18:22:27] <ssi> yeah I'd probably make a core box also
[18:22:29] <andypugh> It will be machined on all faces
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[18:23:06] <andypugh> It would need to be two core boxes and they take literally days of machine time...
[18:23:07] <archivist> may need to stress relieve if you dont make a core
[18:23:35] <Sync> andypugh: or just get the chassis co2 blasted
[18:24:45] <andypugh> It would need to be two cores, and I am not sure how to support them.
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[18:25:10] <Sync> small pins?
[18:25:24] <andypugh> Though I guess that the cores could only be the top “holes” rather than two complete L shapes
[18:25:59] <archivist> ask your foundry man
[18:26:20] <andypugh> archivist: Too sensible!
[18:26:41] <archivist> aw
[18:26:55] <Sync> hmm, do you have a nail gun? then making core boxes is easy
[18:27:16] <andypugh> Making _boxes_ is easy
[18:27:34] <andypugh> Making ones with all the required features is less so.
[18:27:42] <JT-Shop> I can think of hundreds of things I'd rather be doing than siding the shop
[18:28:15] <archivist> I remember on book I skim read that had chills too to adjust local cooling rates in a casting
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[18:28:46] <andypugh> I have been wondering if my big casting will need chaplets
[18:33:57] <Sync> I guess you will find out :D
[18:37:19] <archivist> took me a while to find the title, Directional solidification of steel castings R Wlodawer Pergamon Press 1966
[18:39:47] <andypugh> This is the big pattern, and I am getting to the point where I have had enough…
[18:39:49] <andypugh> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/T6Ks0gmDHhdQE3IiTMoFAdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[18:40:26] <andypugh> Still days of filling and sanding to be done on the core box. I think the pattern just needs paint.
[18:41:09] <archivist> keeps you out of the pub :)
[18:42:14] <andypugh> Literally. I skipped the department autumn pub-crawl to get an extra evening of patternmaking in.
[18:43:41] <JT-Shop> nice, what is it?
[18:45:13] <ssi> andypugh: oh wow that's a much bigger part than I was picturing
[18:45:51] <andypugh> It replaces the feeds gearbox on my Holbrook lathe with a servo mount and ballscrew bearing/drive
[18:46:52] <andypugh> It is paart-modelled in this picture:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/t30w7IzwpLdSNfPFP6orwNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[18:46:59] <Sync> wouldn't a weld construction have been easier?
[18:47:34] <andypugh> Yes… But I didn’t realise how much easier when I decided on the casting
[18:47:50] <Sync> :D
[18:48:13] <andypugh> The casting makes it rather easier to get a stiff Z-screw mounting solidly connected to the bed
[18:48:48] <andypugh> I priced up a set of laser-cut parts and that was £120, the casting was quoted at £80
[18:48:55] <Sync> well, if you made it from 20mm al plate welded with full penetration you'd get the same effect
[18:48:58] <Sync> yeah
[18:49:05] <Sync> but you spend more than 40 quid on the box
[18:49:28] <andypugh> I can’t do full-penetration welds on 20mm Aluminium
[18:49:48] <andypugh> In fact I can barely weld aluminium at all
[18:50:46] <Sync> you can always chamfer the edge and do multiple passes
[18:52:38] <Sync> you'd get a lot of practice doing the piece ;)
[18:53:53] <andypugh> I would use more than £40 of Argon
[18:55:21] <Sync> I doubt that
[18:56:21] <Sync> but you would already have the part by now :D
[18:57:01] <archivist> you need a large welder too
[18:57:47] <Sync> my small 200A tig does it just fine, although it takes its time to heat up
[18:57:49] <archivist> I remember running a lot of current just for 5mm al
[18:57:53] <Sync> with helium it is so much nicer
[18:58:39] <archivist> 140 is about the tops on a home mains supply
[18:58:49] <Sync> o_0
[18:58:55] <Sync> maybe for 110V
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[19:45:42] <zeeshan|2> boy
[19:45:45] <zeeshan|2> what a mission to move the car in
[19:46:42] <zeeshan|2> andypugh: nice lathe model!
[19:46:43] <archivist> did someone put a lathe in the way
[19:46:57] <zeeshan|2> what are those tapered shafts
[19:47:02] <zeeshan|2> archivist: haha
[19:47:09] <zeeshan|2> im so glad the lathe is where it is
[19:47:34] <zeeshan|2> http://imgur.com/a/RlUxN
[19:47:36] <zeeshan|2> laugh away
[19:47:37] <zeeshan|2> :)
[19:47:56] <andypugh> zeeshan|2: The tapered things are spring ballscrew covers
[19:48:00] <zeeshan|2> ah
[19:48:06] <zeeshan|2> that makes sense :)
[19:48:11] <andypugh> (or placeholders for)
[19:48:42] <zeeshan|2> the lathe and mill make good anchors
[19:48:49] <archivist> I like the wooden bridges
[19:48:53] <zeeshan|2> hahaha
[19:49:20] <zeeshan|2> i can work on the mill for sure with the car in
[19:49:25] <zeeshan|2> the lathe might be a bit tight, but i got space
[19:49:26] <archivist> I had wooden rails moving the CMM down the drive
[19:49:35] <zeeshan|2> you got pot holes too?
[19:49:51] <archivist> it is a but too rough for rollers
[19:50:46] <archivist> and easy to add spacers to level the planks
[19:51:32] <zeeshan|2> yes
[19:51:40] <zeeshan|2> i thiink thats the best combo..
[19:51:44] <zeeshan|2> if you have 2x4
[19:51:50] <zeeshan|2> and some steel pipe or solid
[19:51:58] <zeeshan|2> and a winch in the garage
[19:52:07] <zeeshan|2> or a bob cat or something like that pushing the machine up
[19:52:18] <zeeshan|2> if the egyptians could move those massive stones
[19:52:22] <zeeshan|2> we can move dinky little machines :P
[19:52:24] <archivist> levers, more gentle
[19:52:41] <zeeshan|2> thats true
[19:52:52] <zeeshan|2> i dont feel safe with alever only
[19:52:55] <zeeshan|2> cause im a weakling
[19:53:00] <zeeshan|2> if it slips, the machine might roll down
[19:53:06] <zeeshan|2> i like to strap it to something always
[19:53:15] <zeeshan|2> or block the rollers with a wedge
[19:53:31] <archivist> I put wedges to stop rolling
[19:54:29] <archivist> the dangerous bit was the out the van then drop a couple of feet
[19:54:52] <zeeshan|2> are pickup trucks not common up there?
[19:54:58] <zeeshan|2> i notice even in tv shows
[19:55:03] <zeeshan|2> its a lot of mercedes vans
[19:55:22] <archivist> white van man
[19:56:01] <zeeshan|2> haha
[19:57:56] <archivist> mercs, rusty transits and iveco with a bunch of badged vans nissan renault vauxhall
[19:58:07] <TekniQue> zeeshan|2: I'm machining the other side of that rotor today
[19:58:13] <TekniQue> almost done
[19:58:19] <zeeshan|2> nice
[19:58:22] <zeeshan|2> throw some pics up :)
[19:58:31] <zeeshan|2> youre so lucky youre using the 5 axis
[19:58:37] <zeeshan|2> thats a sweet machine
[20:01:04] <andypugh> zeeshan|2: You could wrap a rope round the lathe chuck then jog the car in, if you set up the C axis :-)
[20:01:16] <zeeshan|2> LOL
[20:01:32] <TekniQue> zeeshan|2: it's a 4 axis machine
[20:01:32] <andypugh> This is a more complete model of my lathe:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/WQFxCu0W_unhplIIXkv2CNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[20:01:43] <TekniQue> but it's got two work tables
[20:01:46] <zeeshan|2> andypugh: im impressed
[20:01:49] <zeeshan|2> at how nice that looks
[20:01:55] <zeeshan|2> elite reverse engineering skills
[20:01:56] <zeeshan|2> :)
[20:02:00] <TekniQue> one inside the machine, one outside
[20:02:23] <andypugh> I am not 100% sold on mounting the jogwheels on the apron yet
[20:02:27] <TekniQue> so there's no downtime while loading/unloading stock in mass production
[20:02:57] <zeeshan|2> yes its a pallet based system
[20:03:02] <zeeshan|2> i used to fix those type of machines
[20:03:06] <zeeshan|2> very similar -- the emags
[20:03:31] <zeeshan|2> emag vl6 -- very common in europe
[20:03:33] <zeeshan|2> and up here too
[20:06:17] <TekniQue> this machine used to belong to prosthetics manufacturer Ossur
[20:06:43] <zeeshan|2> is it your machine
[20:06:47] <zeeshan|2> or your buddys cnc shop
[20:07:57] <Sync> zeeshan|2: buy some gojacks
[20:08:57] <TekniQue> zeeshan|2: a buddys
[20:09:03] <zeeshan|2> nice
[20:09:04] <TekniQue> no shop though
[20:09:26] <TekniQue> he's planning to start a machine shop with it
[20:18:41] <andypugh> I think Stuart has a machine you could machine my machine shop with.
[20:19:19] <Sync> heh
[20:21:00] <andypugh> Hmm, 16’ x 8’ is about the size of my garage, but the Z of 39” would be a bit low:
http://www.mpm1.com/viper.html
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[20:23:37] <Sync> I know a company that machines car prototypes out of ureol
[20:24:20] <andypugh> Sounds expensive
[20:24:51] <Sync> yeah, but cheaper than building real prototype for a show
[20:25:42] <andypugh> They seem to generally use clay on a foam core
[20:26:11] <archivist> andypugh, you could machine that on that DSG you found a while ago
[20:26:14] <Sync> often, but apparently for painting ureol is easier as you can source it easily that big
[20:26:39] <Sync> and it is one piece, for whatever reason that is important
[20:32:25] <archivist> andypugh,
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/mirror/cnc/Travelling_Gantry_Machine.pdf
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[20:52:54] <zeeshan|2> andypugh: jeez!
[20:52:57] <zeeshan|2> thats a serious machine
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[20:53:14] <zeeshan|2> and archivist wow.
[20:53:14] <zeeshan|2> :P
[20:53:57] <zeeshan|2> ita funny how that machinei s masive
[20:54:03] <zeeshan|2> still looks like its using cat40/50
[20:54:03] <zeeshan|2> :)
[20:55:07] <Sync> bt50
[20:55:11] <Sync> yeah
[20:55:25] <Sync> but that is due to the 2 axis head
[20:55:33] <Sync> and yeah it is not a roughing monster
[20:59:22] <andypugh> What I like about that DSG is that it is basically a Mechmate. Welded frame and linear guides. It’s just a bit bigger than most.
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[21:11:38] <PetefromTn_> she shure is puny ;)
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[21:49:50] <TekniQue> zeeshan|2:
https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/12189395_10153216404761662_7098902374720426396_o.jpg
[21:50:11] <XXCoder> nice
[21:50:16] <XXCoder> on yo side b eh
[21:50:21] <XXCoder> *to
[21:51:27] <Praesmeodymium> das a lot of work ofr a hubcap
[21:52:20] <XXCoder> thats better guess than my chip dip guess lol
[21:52:32] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:57:27] <PetefromTn_> http://imgur.com/pOCO19I
[21:57:49] <Jymmm> Man, that looks like shit!
[21:57:58] <Jymmm> Should I click on the link now?
[21:58:01] <PetefromTn_> thanks man appreciate it
[21:58:08] <XXCoder> PetefromTn_: looks neat. too bad about straches on it
[21:58:52] * Jymmm clicks the link now...
[21:59:24] <Jymmm> APU... isnt't that the guy fro the quickymart?
[21:59:59] <PetefromTn_> dunno never been there ;)
[22:00:42] <PetefromTn_> its just mild steel exhaust manifold plate
[22:02:12] <Connor> PetefromTn_: How long did it take to engrave it?
[22:02:36] <PetefromTn_> the engraving takes just a minute or two
[22:02:49] <PetefromTn_> maybe 3?
[22:03:16] <PetefromTn_> it .030 deep with a .020 tip single flute so I can't go too fast with it.
[22:03:59] <Connor> Cool
[22:04:30] <PetefromTn_> does it look bad?
[22:04:43] <Connor> I don't think so.
[22:05:12] <PetefromTn_> heh
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[22:07:57] <Connor> TekniQue: What is that for ?
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[22:25:10] <TekniQue> Connor: water brake dyno absorber
[22:25:31] <TekniQue> both sides are done now
[22:26:38] <Connor> Cool
[22:31:52] <TekniQue> This was our first time using this machine
[22:33:34] <TekniQue> and I think we did okay
[22:34:25] <PetefromTn_> TekniQue looks real good man
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[23:13:39] <Akex_> Hy all
[23:14:21] <Akex_> The most important in latency is servo thread or base thread ?
[23:17:19] <JT-Shop> depends on the machine and hardware
[23:17:24] <JT-Shop> stepper?
[23:17:28] <JT-Shop> tell us more
[23:20:24] <Akex_> I use a dc servo
[23:20:37] <Akex_> But the driver is a step dir
[23:20:54] <Akex_> The same for stepper driver
[23:21:39] <JT-Shop> parallel port or hardware step generation?
[23:21:44] <Akex_> Dg4s
[23:21:48] <Akex_> Paralele
[23:21:59] <JT-Shop> base thread is important
[23:22:11] <JT-Shop> for software step generation
[23:22:15] <Akex_> Thanks JT-Shop :)
[23:22:44] <JT-Shop> np
[23:26:04] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, you find the last piece of siding yet?
[23:26:12] <Tom_itx> or still lookin for it..
[23:26:33] <JT-Shop> on the north wall the last piece of lap siding just went up a few minutes ago
[23:26:39] * JT-Shop is a tired puppy
[23:27:33] <JT-Shop> now I need to put up the sheet stuff on the soffet
[23:27:42] <JT-Shop> or gable ...
[23:28:10] <JT-Shop> 320 sq ft on the north wall
[23:28:15] <JT-Shop> plus the gable
[23:28:22] <SpeedEvil> First project - external crane system.
[23:28:49] <JT-Shop> I have a crane for my scaffold
[23:28:57] <JT-Shop> used that to raise the trusses
[23:29:32] <JT-Shop> time for a bowl of Texas Red
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[23:49:06] <Contract_Pilot> Odd order for 6 Cancled under my account under Wifes order for 4 shipped!
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[23:52:28] <PetefromTn_> who's really good here with feeds and speeds in steel?
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[23:55:04] <Praesmeodymium> Contract_Pilot: you have enough motors they decided
[23:55:17] <Praesmeodymium> I still havent heard anything about my order of 5
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[23:57:56] <PetefromTn_> Don't everybody stand up at once now :D
[23:58:38] <Contract_Pilot> Google pete
[23:58:59] <Contract_Pilot> Or tool data sheet!
[23:59:11] <PetefromTn_> thanks
