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[00:14:03] <Cromaglious> Tucson was freaking HOT! 114f
[00:14:42] <furrywolf> well, went to the last day of the local hardware store... bought a bunch of stuff at 75% off.
[00:15:31] <furrywolf> I also bought the 6-32 and 8-32, 10-24 and 10-32, and M3-M4 socket head cap screw assortments for $15/each... I would have bought the M5-M6 one as well, but it looked like someone else already got it, as I couldn't find it.
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[00:18:30] <Rab> furrywolf, sad when those places go under.
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[00:18:51] <Rab> Even if they're prejudiced good ol
[00:18:59] <Rab> boys, which is sometimes the case.
[00:19:30] <furrywolf> nah, this place was great. the problem was it had too many owners.
[00:20:18] <furrywolf> as any one of the staff will happily tell you. lol
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[00:23:59] <furrywolf> I really wanted the M5-M6 tray, and spent a half hour searching the pallets of fastener trays.
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[00:28:14] <Cromaglious> the ACE hardware my wife works at is closing and she's been getting some good deals... though all the fasteners are going to a new store :(
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[00:28:52] <Cromaglious> DeWalt 20V impactor case, 2 20V LiOn batteries, 1 charger for $30
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[00:29:06] <Cromaglious> some one walked off with the impactor
[00:29:15] <Cromaglious> display model
[00:30:06] <Cromaglious> so now I have 2 chargers and 3 batteries... I can go nonstop now using my drill
[00:33:35] <Cromaglious> and some ratchette wrenchs as well ACE and Craftsman
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[00:45:17] <furrywolf> I have all 18V stuff... heh
[00:46:14] <roycroft> my 18v stuff is dewalt nmh
[00:46:28] <roycroft> i've started getting some milwaukee 12v lion tools
[00:46:33] <roycroft> much lighter
[00:49:19] <Cromaglious> I gave all my dewalt 18v nmh stuff away... hammer drill, 2 impactors, sawzall, skilsaw, light, drill
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[00:49:26] <furrywolf> I have the dewalt 18v li-ion now. so far they're holding up much better than the nimh.
[00:49:28] <furrywolf> or nicd
[00:49:45] <humble_sea_bass> my hilti LI stuff is approaching 8 years old
[00:49:46] <Cromaglious> I'm loving the 20V
[00:50:03] <furrywolf> I'm pretty heavily invested in their 18v stuff.
[00:50:04] <humble_sea_bass> best expenditure ever for impact drivers and drill
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[00:51:20] <furrywolf> 6-7 drills, impact driver (of the screw variety), impact gun (of the 1/2" drive 250ftlbs variety), 3-4 circular saws, metal cutting circular saw, 2-3 sawzalls, regular light, fluorescent light, jigsaw, vacuum cleaner,...
[00:51:42] <furrywolf> spent real money getting the metal cutting saw. very nice tool.
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[00:54:29] <Cromaglious> I have a plug in hammer drill and a ryobi plug in sawzall. I have a 1000w generator is I need to do stuff without house power.
[00:55:25] <furrywolf> I have 20 generators, but I still prefer cordless tools. lol
[00:55:46] <Cromaglious> I have 4 drills 1 3/8", 1 550rpm 1/2", 1 1/2" drill, 1 1/2" hammer drill. Looking towards getting a SDS hammer drill
[00:55:49] <furrywolf> (now, WORKING generators on the other hand...)
[00:56:07] <humble_sea_bass> unless you're aconstruction worker, battery hammerdrills are an unnecessary expenditure
[00:56:15] <Cromaglious> I also have the diesel 6500w genset as well for big stuff
[00:56:46] <Cromaglious> I'm a pool construction worker
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[00:57:16] <Cromaglious> I have 4 air compressors, 2 of which work
[00:57:45] <humble_sea_bass> and 2 you dropped loading on to the pickup right
[00:57:59] <furrywolf> lol
[00:58:09] <humble_sea_bass> its a normal life for compressors
[00:58:19] <humble_sea_bass> job site compressors I mean
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[00:58:26] <Cromaglious> 4 stapler/brad nailers, 1 pin nailer, 1 14gauge brad nailer, 1 air nailer.
[00:59:12] <Cromaglious> those are the generators... 4K craftsman and a 2500w noname the 4K I dropped off the truck
[00:59:26] <Cromaglious> ok later of to the Ham radio meeting
[00:59:33] <furrywolf> I have a big 240v compressor that works great but needs 240V which I don't have, a medium 120V compressor that needs a motor (or maybe just caps), two small 120V compressors that work but are in storage, and several 12V compressors that see most of the use, including the one that's plumbed into my air system here.
[00:59:35] <Cromaglious> s/of/of/
[00:59:52] <Cromaglious> offff
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[00:59:59] <furrywolf> as soon as I fix one of the eu6500ises, I can use my big compressor. :)
[01:11:11] <jdh> I have a device that pulses a stepper controller with a 5v sinking pulse. I need to replace the driver with one that only accepts a + pulse. Any simple way to convert the pulse?
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[01:27:41] <Tom_itx> logic inverter
[01:29:14] <Tom_itx> 74HC04 etc
[01:29:53] <jdh> I have a 7404 in my hand. I was wondering if I would miss an edge just doing that
[01:30:51] <Tom_itx> i wouldn't think so
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[01:57:21] <Rab> jdh, CMOS 4049UB also works if you need a wider supply voltage tolerance.
[02:06:39] <jdh> I have 7404, 7405, 7406
[02:41:49] <A_Nub> sorry if this sounds completely amateur, but is there a way to see an estimated time of a job/remaining time?
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[03:13:02] <Tom_itx> A_Nub, some cam programs (if you have them set up right) will give you a rough estimate of machine time
[03:13:19] <Tom_itx> not sure how you would do that in linuxcnc
[03:13:26] <A_Nub> ah
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[03:13:35] <A_Nub> I'm using the wonderfully bad cambam
[03:13:35] <Tom_itx> i have cycle times displayed on my screen but not remaining time
[03:13:41] <A_Nub> I need to get something better
[03:14:16] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/screenshot.png
[03:14:25] <Tom_itx> i show each tool time and overall time
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[03:29:31] <MacGalempsy> yo
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[03:52:19] <furrywolf> linuxcnc should be able to without too much work... if it can't, submit it as a feature request.
[03:52:43] <furrywolf> if it can show the entire cutting path in the ui, it has processed the file enough to know how long it will take pretty accurately.
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[06:50:37] <Deejay> moin
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[08:17:02] <Loetmichel2> hmm, anyone here that could give advice how to get the desktopn shared to another machine with a fresh install of debian live cd?
[08:17:38] <Loetmichel2> i've tried tightvnc but i am stuck in getting a new display, not he one the linuxCN window is on ;-)
[08:19:23] <Loetmichel2> my linux-fu is shady at best, tho...
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[08:20:28] <Jymmm> http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/vnc.htm
[08:20:41] <Jymmm> You are trying to mke the new install the server?
[08:20:54] <Jymmm> so it can be accesed from elsewhere?
[08:21:55] <Jymmm> If so...
http://blog.technotesdesk.com/how-to-use-rdp-from-windows-to-connect-to-debian-or-ubuntu-machine/
[08:24:39] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:24:40] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: i am trying to get access to the CNC machine from my office
[08:25:06] <Loetmichel> and just have installed a new CNC pc with the debian life CD
[08:25:36] <Loetmichel> whioch works fine, but the vnc server i had running under t ubuntu 190.04 seems not to work now
[08:25:58] <Loetmichel> 10.04
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[08:57:08] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: both links you provioded does not solve my problem
[08:57:18] <Loetmichel> i dobnt want to hacve a :1 display
[08:57:24] <Loetmichel> i want to share the :0 ;-)
[08:58:32] <Loetmichel> so i can do that:again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u_ChO1AKYY
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[09:13:02] <Loetmichel> ah, x11vnc does the trick... now how to mount that in the startup that is started every time i fire up the CNC computer?
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[09:47:50] <Valen> Loetmichel: I think for 12.04 you can do that through the menu
[09:48:11] <Valen> IE something like tick a box somewhere "allow remote access"
[09:50:27] <MrSunshine> hmm i need very low profile clamps for the routertable ... i wonder how to build them .. thinking something like talongrip or something .. the ones that draws down and pushes sideways at the same time
[09:51:06] <MrSunshine> by the piece to be clamped i would like something like max 6mm of build height...
[09:51:47] <XXCoder> that low probably better just screw or bolt stock to surface
[09:52:01] <XXCoder> assuming part has interior holes
[09:52:31] <MrSunshine> no ... its a part that i cant clamp from the top side =)
[09:52:40] <MrSunshine> vacuum would be neat but my vacuumsystem is not done =)
[09:53:03] <MrSunshine> well .. i guess i could clamp it from the top ... as there are parts that is going to be cut out
[09:53:07] <MrSunshine> just cut them out last :P
[09:53:10] <XXCoder> is part smaller than stock?
[09:53:17] <XXCoder> can make notches and clamp on that
[09:54:15] <MrSunshine> nah, im getting some cutof from a thing i make for a person .. atm i just want to try and make something from them and present it for her incase she is interested .. if so i can make them both in one go later when she orders more stuff =)
[09:54:23] <MrSunshine> just to use more of the material =)
[09:54:50] <XXCoder> cool, hopefully you will be able to figure it out
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[10:41:59] <_methods> just use mitee bites
[10:42:12] <_methods> they have models on their website for all their clamps
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[11:15:02] <Loetmichel> *ha*... got it working again... need to buy a new camera, this one seems to be quite out of focus now... ->
[11:15:05] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15841&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[11:20:53] <Loetmichel> i think someone stepped on it
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[12:19:38] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: VNC and RDP are not the same thing, I was suggesting RDP
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[12:48:01] <_methods> i had much better luck with x11 forwarding than rdp or vnc
[12:54:00] <Jymmm> _methods: He's on M$
[12:54:48] <Jymmm> _methods: Although, could install EMC for Windows I suppose.
[12:56:28] <sysdef> i think installing an X server is a better choice (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/ )
[12:56:54] <Jymmm> It's already built into LinuxCNC
[13:00:30] <_methods> i used xming and something else on windows
[13:00:34] <_methods> to do x11 forwarding
[13:01:02] <sysdef> xming+putty i guess
[13:01:06] <_methods> yeah
[13:01:19] <_methods> i think i might have had to install cygwin
[13:01:23] <_methods> can't remember
[13:01:34] <_methods> or maybe i did just use putty
[13:01:47] <Jymmm> Yeah me too.... VM Settings and check "Enable Remote Access" =)
[13:02:07] <_methods> https://wiki.utdallas.edu/wiki/display/FAQ/X11+Forwarding+using+Xming+and+PuTTY
[13:02:18] <_methods> i think that's the tut i used
[13:02:27] <_methods> looks like it was just putty and xming
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[13:03:08] <Jymmm> Tutorial?! How hard is it to check a box?
[13:04:26] <sysdef> there are tutorials for brooms
[13:04:39] <Tom_itx> how to ride them?
[13:04:44] <sysdef> lol
[13:05:07] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: I think that's in their genes
[13:07:58] <_methods> hahah
[13:08:04] <_methods> who let Jymmm in here
[13:08:30] <Jymmm> _methods: You did!
[13:08:34] <_methods> hehe
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[13:48:05] <Tom_itx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDdFra_Yy4
[13:55:49] <Tom_itx> and in other news:
[13:55:52] <Tom_itx> http://www.jokeoverflow.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/slipped-600x452.jpg
[14:03:47] <_methods> hahah
[14:04:16] <ssi> morn
[14:05:24] <_methods> classic
[14:07:00] <_methods> curbs are dangerous
[14:15:56] <furrywolf> that's old.
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[14:58:51] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: obviously i used vnc on the old system
[14:59:15] <Loetmichel> and yes, its win on the Office Desktop
[14:59:25] <Loetmichel> because company PC
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[17:50:56] <CaptHindsight> http://linuxgizmos.com/dime-sized-iot-com-runs-linux-or-android-on-imx6/ integrated GPU and Gb Ethernet could make for a tiny Linuxcnc controller is HM2_eth on ARM works out
[17:51:10] <CaptHindsight> is/if
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[17:56:49] <_methods> yeah should be interesting
[17:57:26] <alex4nder> the iMX parts are cool
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[18:09:13] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: They said it comes with a kernel. Would that imply that a lot of the drivers are proprietary?
[18:12:54] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: most of the imx6 drivers are open, except for the GPU
[18:13:49] <CaptHindsight> imx6 uses a Vivante GPU
[18:18:06] <CaptHindsight> will try the hm2_eth on imx6 after we get it working on the A20
[18:19:53] <CaptHindsight> many of the imx6 have PCIe as the dime sized one ^^^ so the hm2_pci driver might also work
[18:20:42] <CaptHindsight> it's nice to finally see PCIe on ARM SOC's that mere mortals can purchase
[18:20:57] <CaptHindsight> and are fast enough for CNC and UI
[18:21:24] <CaptHindsight> wow it also has SATA 3gps
[18:28:34] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I showed you guys those years ago
[18:28:59] <CaptHindsight> imx6 has been around for a while
[18:29:11] <CaptHindsight> this new one is just cheap and tiny
[18:29:59] <CaptHindsight> just not <$6 like the Chinese ARM soc's
[18:30:04] <CaptHindsight> but getting closer
[18:30:20] <SpeedEvil> they did the _worst_possible_advertised_devboard_
[18:30:44] <SpeedEvil> http://www.warpboard.org/
[18:31:00] <CaptHindsight> wandboard was another
[18:31:37] <SpeedEvil> In principle, at a third - or maybe even half that price - it'd have been awesome
[18:32:14] <CaptHindsight> yeah all the imx6 stuff was 2x what other were offering
[18:32:39] <SpeedEvil> $150 - with no support is a little much
[18:34:51] <CaptHindsight> TI and Freescale can't compete with Chinese ARM soc makers on price
[18:35:12] <CaptHindsight> they can offer better docs
[18:36:19] <CaptHindsight> Samsung has no interest in applications outside of consumer except for the small amount of parts they decide to sell to hardkernel
[18:36:23] <SpeedEvil> Or availability
[18:37:10] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: WITH wifi
http://www.logicpd.com/products/system-on-modules/dm3730-torpedo-wireless-som/
[18:37:40] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: WITHOUT wifi
http://www.logicpd.com/products/system-on-modules/texas-instruments-dm3730-am3703-torpedo-som/
[18:38:21] <Jymmm> we just used an off the shelf debian iso
[18:38:55] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: whats the price of those modules?
[18:39:13] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: If you have to ask...
[18:40:25] <CaptHindsight> the devices are $25-30ea at 1K pcs
[18:40:51] <CaptHindsight> the am versions are less
[18:42:13] <Jymmm> That is v3, up to v5 or v6 now
[18:42:46] <CaptHindsight> we hear and see all these Linux ISO's for various ARM SOC's and then you download and try them and they are mostly broken with magic tool chains
[18:43:47] <CaptHindsight> it's like an army of half assed devs all race to get an ISO that boot and then call it done
[18:44:17] <SpeedEvil> If only embedded intel was better
[18:44:28] <Jymmm> all devs are half assed 'get out another release' now now now
[18:44:29] <CaptHindsight> or they publish the crappy stuff and hold on to the known working patches
[18:45:29] <Jymmm> you are beta bitch... billions and billions served.
[18:45:32] <CaptHindsight> do the stable releases with verified too chains just get lost in all the noise?
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[19:47:23] <furrywolf> I run an off-the-shelf debian install on my linksys nslu2.
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[19:47:57] <furrywolf> at 133mhz and 32mb of ram, it's not exactly the most powerful system in the world, but it does its job. :)
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[19:48:40] <furrywolf> of course, debian's probably going to be linux-amd64-only soon...
[19:49:07] <furrywolf> what with systemd not running on anything else and all.
[19:49:29] <furrywolf> bbl
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[21:36:25] <Computer_barf> objectivity test: who is this?
http://i.imgur.com/3zxpln7.png
[21:38:19] <cthompson> Tyrion Lannister
[21:38:43] <cthompson> television Tyrion Lannister, as book Tyrion doesn't have that much nose.
[21:38:45] <Computer_barf> NICE
[21:38:56] <Computer_barf> first try sculpting, far from over but
[21:39:12] <Computer_barf> hoping by now it's at least somewhat identifyable
[21:39:56] <Computer_barf> but yes, im a book reader and know about the nose
[21:40:30] <Computer_barf> my plan is to mill one at some point and then use the master to cast bookends
[21:42:06] <Computer_barf> im thinking about putting a subtext at the bottom of it when I work on that area
[21:42:13] <Computer_barf> need to pick out a good quote
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[21:46:47] <Valen> Computer_barf: needs a weaker chin and wider midface to match Mr Dinklage if that is what you are going for
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[21:49:23] <cthompson> Computer_barf: "I am the god of tits and wine."
[21:49:24] <Computer_barf> oh im all up for crits.. it's very in progress
[21:53:31] <Valen> 's way better than anything I could come up with ;->
[21:53:40] <Valen> if it doesn't have dimensions I'm screwed
[22:00:32] <Computer_barf> scrapped a old microwave today , finally figured out how to wire up the squirl cage fan inside of them for diy purposes
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[22:11:34] * JT-Shop needs to wire up a microwave squirrel cooker
[22:15:14] <_methods> make sure you do a tutorial and youtube that shit
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[22:18:15] <JT-Shop> lol
[22:18:15] <_methods> little bird feeder raiding bastards
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[22:19:25] <_methods> i've honestly given up on trying to stop them
[22:19:40] <_methods> a few years ago i came to the conclusion that squirrels are smarter than me
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[22:23:38] <JT-Shop> these are getting in my corn feeder and I've almost got them whipped
[22:23:42] <JT-Shop> you must whip it
[22:24:28] <_methods> meh i give up, they are the superior race
[22:25:20] <_methods> if you cant beat 'em, feed em
[22:25:21] <_methods> lol
[22:26:25] <_methods> the final straw was when i got some of those bird feeders that spin around when the squirrels get on them
[22:26:34] <_methods> they pulled my hammock apart
[22:26:49] <_methods> and they would use the strings to lower down to the squirrel on the feeder
[22:27:00] <_methods> so the feeder wouldn't spin
[22:27:10] <JT-Shop> lol
[22:27:50] <_methods> my wife got quite the kick out of that
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[22:31:59] <CaptHindsight> special forces squirrels
[22:32:34] <_methods> i'm pretty sure i'm just special olympics
[22:33:00] <CaptHindsight> thats one way aliens could easily fit and take over, come in squirrel form
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[22:35:40] <_methods> my ego would like to believe there were getting some assistance from alien technology
[22:35:47] <_methods> s/there/they
[22:36:36] <Computer_barf> get a crossbow and hunt the squirls
[22:36:46] <Computer_barf> they are surprisingly delicious
[22:38:14] <CaptHindsight> http://www.caloriecount.com/calories-squirrel-i17184
[22:38:43] <Computer_barf> are you trying to tell me im going to get fat on squirls?
[22:38:49] <CaptHindsight> hmmm surprisingly Very high in cholesterol
[22:41:42] <Computer_barf> _methods: were you serious?
[22:43:00] <Computer_barf> we could start a whole debate on cholesterol but meh
[22:43:26] <CaptHindsight> other calories sites have much lower numbers so yeah, meh
[22:44:43] <_methods> serious?
[22:44:56] <Computer_barf> about making a youtube video on the fan
[22:45:11] <Computer_barf> wasn't sure if it was /sarc
[22:45:14] <_methods> no i was talkin about JT-Shop saying he was going to make a squirrel cooker
[22:45:41] <JT-Shop> a squirrel microwave... maybe just warm them up a bit
[22:45:54] <_methods> i'll take any edge i can get against them
[22:46:04] <Computer_barf> ahh yeah , i figured i was the only one dense enough to want a tutorial on how to wire up a microwave fan
[22:46:19] <_methods> yeah that's easy
[22:46:30] <_methods> being smarter than a squirrel though is eluding me
[22:46:53] <Computer_barf> im telling you , eating a population tends to cut it down.
[22:47:15] <_methods> unfortunately my wife is totally against me harming the squirrels
[22:47:32] <Computer_barf> well you need to do it hannibal style
[22:47:41] <_methods> i'm only allowed to pursue non-lethal options lol
[22:47:52] <Computer_barf> kill , clean , and set up a crock pot in the kitchen slow cooking it.
[22:48:02] <Computer_barf> tell your wife you made X fancy dish
[22:48:05] <_methods> hahha
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[22:49:06] <Computer_barf> when you are about half done , reveal what it actually is
[22:49:41] <Computer_barf> then pull your wife into a vast squirl killing endevour
[22:50:06] <Computer_barf> involving feeding squirls to other squirls...
[22:50:13] <Computer_barf> and etc.
[22:50:15] <_methods> now thats twisted
[22:50:49] <Computer_barf> sorry been binge watching hannibal
[22:51:55] <Computer_barf> you could build a trap and mail your squirls to people who have displeased you
[22:52:33] <_methods> i don't want to upset amazon
[22:53:12] <Computer_barf> RevengeSquirrel.com
[22:55:06] <Computer_barf> it's available!
[22:57:10] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsuVLsDyln4 Rube Goldberg contraption
[22:58:08] <CaptHindsight> http://www.greenmuze.com/animals/wild/2848-squirrel-powered-machines-.html
[23:01:09] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL7tbPymrc0
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