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[00:09:13] <PCW> not unless you had it backwards...
[00:09:55] <chopper79> nope... as it powered up just fine. LCNC just would not launch.
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[00:10:09] <PCW> (the THCAD has a reverse polarity protection diode so _will_ short out your 5V supply if backwards)
[00:11:24] <chopper79> Would the THCAD still power up like normal though? I would not think it would if it was shorted
[00:12:26] <Tom_itx> PCW you think mine will make it out this week?
[00:12:26] <PCW> Probably unrelated (the 5V power is the same everywhere except the encoder power is protected with a PTC)
[00:12:36] <PCW> will try
[00:12:44] <chopper79> I am testing now to see if I can get a signal from the THCAD to the encoder in Hal Meter. I can not get a count signal,
[00:13:08] <PCW> you need to set the encoder to up/down mode
[00:13:42] <chopper79> setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
[00:13:42] <Tom_itx> PCW i wonder why digikey showed those pericom chips as end of life
[00:14:26] <PCW> They are end of life (there are TI and Phillips equivs that are not)
[00:14:38] <Tom_itx> oh
[00:15:26] <PCW> but the Pericom ones were always cheaper (I think we have a 20K last time buy)
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[00:17:51] <Tom_itx> are those in most of your anythingio cards?
[00:18:44] <PCW> SN74CBT16211A
[00:18:46] <PCW> yes most
[00:20:54] <PCW> Phillips CBT16211
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[00:31:37] <chopper79> still no luck on getting a reading from THCAD. I have counter mode set to 1 and I do not see any activity in LCNC under hal configurations or hal meter. What would be the next thing to check?
[00:32:11] <chopper79> Maybe im not applying enough voltage to the inputs on the THCAD? im at 25vdc now
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[00:40:46] <zeeshan> fak
[00:40:49] <micges> thcad is always output some frequency
[00:40:53] <zeeshan> i spent too much on a bandsaw blade :/
[00:41:54] <furrywolf> meh. spent $57 ordering generator parts today. rings, head bolts, an air filter, some minor parts for the choke linkage, oil drain plug washers, starter housing bushings.
[00:42:42] <furrywolf> the parts manager said he's had very bad luck with the chinese pistons, so I got rings for my current piston... for $25. because the california rings, SMALLER, cost double what the 49-state ones do.
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[00:42:59] <chopper79> I kind thought it did have an output at all time, but not seeing anything in LCNC
[00:43:32] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsPluf2TZrQ - on torque wrenches
[00:43:37] <SpeedEvil> (not really)
[00:44:31] <furrywolf> sharpening blades?
[00:45:05] <SpeedEvil> I found it amusing, and it brought to mind the torque issues you were having.
[00:45:37] <furrywolf> what if you're not a manly man, for several reasons?
[00:45:45] <SpeedEvil> :)
[00:46:03] <zeeshan> i hate ave
[00:46:04] <zeeshan> guy is a moron
[00:47:00] <SpeedEvil> Please make an intelligent youtube channel, to which we can subscribe.
[00:47:04] <furrywolf> it's about 10% done downloading...
[00:47:23] <zeeshan> i thought he was okay in the beginning, i saw 2 videos
[00:47:29] <furrywolf> intelligent people write articles with text and pictures, because they're literate. other people feel the need to make videos of them talking.
[00:47:36] <zeeshan> then quickly realized, he's clueless
[00:47:40] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/user/mikeselectricstuff - I mean - for example - is awesome
[00:47:41] <zeeshan> from the way he abuses his machines
[00:48:32] <SpeedEvil> And I quite agree in many ways that videos are a poor information source in some ways.
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[00:48:45] * SpeedEvil realises he way overused the word way.
[00:48:56] <zeeshan> wow that guy is cool
[00:48:58] <zeeshan> mike's electric
[00:49:59] <furrywolf> is the person in the video actually an idiot, or just pretending to be?
[00:50:07] <zeeshan> both
[00:51:16] <SpeedEvil> He does some interesting teardowns - perhaps with questionable analysis.
[00:51:23] <SpeedEvil> ^certainly
[00:52:23] <furrywolf> why would you blur the grinder?
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[00:52:48] <SpeedEvil> It's got his name on it
[00:53:30] <furrywolf> lol
[00:53:58] <furrywolf> where does it mention balancing?
[00:54:45] <furrywolf> I've never balanced a mower blade, but if you put balancing in the title, you should mention it...
[00:54:58] <SpeedEvil> he does - in that he puts it on a rod
[00:55:44] <SpeedEvil> I have also never balanced a mower blade,
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[00:57:16] <furrywolf> I find they vibrate obnoxiously even from the factory, due to internal engine balance issues, and unless your blade is an inch longer on one side than the other, it's not going to be noticable...
[00:57:58] <SpeedEvil> I don't really have a lawn that is large enough to make IC pointful.
[00:59:25] <furrywolf> unless you live in an area where the grass grows a lot slower than it does here, you need an engine-powered lawnmower for any lawn, if you're not one of those obsessives who mows every weekend.
[01:00:07] <tswartz> furrywolf, grass has to be mowed every weekend where i'm at or it gets out of control
[01:00:32] <furrywolf> correct. which is why if you don't mow every weekend, you need a gas-powered mower. :P
[01:00:43] <furrywolf> electric ones do not have the power for more than a week's growth.
[01:00:47] <tswartz> you need a gas powered mower even if you do it every weekend lol
[01:00:52] <tswartz> electric mower? wtf
[01:01:35] <tswartz> if a 5.5hp gas engine has a hard time cutting grass, what kind of electric motor is going to do it?
[01:02:11] <furrywolf> speedevil seems to think electric is a good idea. :)
[01:02:29] <tswartz> SpeedEvil, you must not live in the south
[01:02:37] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: My lawn is ~50m^2
[01:02:54] <SpeedEvil> not 50*50m
[01:02:59] <tswartz> well, that's not much, so maybe
[01:03:14] <tswartz> the grass here is just super thick, especially this time of year
[01:03:27] <furrywolf> brb
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[01:25:56] <chopper79> JT-shop: you available for a question?
[01:30:08] <chopper79> If so.... I am using your 5i20 plasma config as a base config and it seems that the encoder raw count is stuck at one number regardless of voltage input. the meter is showing about 45.3 volts and the raw count is stuck at 65340. Not sure why it is stuck there and figured maybe you could fill me in on the potential issue.
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[01:35:27] <PCW> No idea, sounds like wrong counter mode or input connections are wrong (the raw count is not of much use here but should of course change)
[01:37:58] <PCW> Note it may count down depending on the B state so you may need to jumper the B input for TTL mode and tie the B input low to get positive velocities
[01:39:17] <PCW> BTW, the encoder velocity pin is the useful signal
[01:39:59] <chopper79> shows a ste of 0
[01:40:02] <chopper79> state
[01:40:24] <PCW> so its not getting any signal
[01:40:33] <chopper79> hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.velocity
[01:40:35] <Tom_itx> what sort of encoder?
[01:40:39] <chopper79> looking at this signal
[01:40:56] <PCW> or the scale is not right
[01:41:08] <chopper79> setp thc.scale-offset 119600
[01:41:23] <chopper79> setp thc.vel-scale -0.00037866834
[01:41:49] <PCW> if the raw counts dont change than theres no signal
[01:42:03] <chopper79> understood
[01:42:10] <chopper79> now to figure out why
[01:42:37] <PCW> (when viewed with halmeter or watch (not show))
[01:42:51] <chopper79> Im wired to the encoder input on TB3.
[01:43:16] <chopper79> hal meter show 0 also
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[01:44:07] <PCW> is the THCAD rate LED blinking?
[01:44:41] <chopper79> yeah about 1 blink evey couple secs
[01:45:45] <PCW> counter mode set to 1? (check with hal show)
[01:47:23] <chopper79> hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter is 0 in show
[01:47:33] <chopper79> but 1 in hal config
[01:47:42] <chopper79> setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
[01:47:44] <furrywolf> getting to the timing belt on an eu2000i is way, way, way more work than it should be.
[01:48:11] <PCW> probably you have two setp commands
[01:49:35] <chopper79> just did a search and only one is in the hal
[01:50:27] <PCW> postgui.hal?
[01:51:14] <chopper79> yes, but it does not contain one either
[01:52:05] <PCW> so hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode is 0 if read?
[01:52:14] <chopper79> yes
[01:52:19] <chopper79> but 1 in hal config
[01:52:33] <PCW> maybe you are not running the hal file you think you are
[01:53:35] <chopper79> only config on pc besides 5i20 config and it does the same thing
[01:53:58] <chopper79> let me check something
[01:54:07] <PCW> pncconf puts the configs in a subdirectory IICRC
[01:56:10] <chopper79> even the 5i20 plasma config shows a 1 on count mode in hal and a 0 in hal meter
[01:57:44] <PCW> what version of linuxcnc?
[01:58:16] <chopper79> 10.04 2.5.4
[01:59:48] <PCW> hmm try setting it true
[02:01:46] <chopper79> no change
[02:02:12] <PCW> weird, works for me (just tried)
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[02:03:26] <chopper79> what the heck... not sure what I am missing here.
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[02:08:38] <chopper79> 3-23 11 (0 SMARTSERIAL-P0-RX) unused-sserial
[02:08:38] <chopper79> P3-25 12 (12 GPIO Input) unused-input
[02:08:38] <chopper79> P3-27 13 (13 GPIO Input) unused-input
[02:08:38] <chopper79> P3-29 14 (0 Quad Encoder-I) unused-encoder
[02:08:38] <chopper79> P3-31 15 (0 Quad Encoder-B) unused-encoder
[02:08:39] <chopper79> P3-33 16 (0 Quad Encoder-A) unused-encoder
[02:09:10] <chopper79> does p3-33 have naything to do with it since its unused?
[02:09:46] <Tom_itx> in quad mode it should
[02:11:19] <PCW> not sure those mean anything
[02:12:57] <chopper79> does the following ..... setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1.....need to be changed to somethnig like this .......hm2_5i25.0.7i76.0.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1 or is the encoder not on the Sserial part of 7i76?
[02:13:29] <PCW> No, its not part of sserial
[02:13:53] <chopper79> ok... Just going through random things tryto find the issue
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[02:14:54] <PCW> is the sserial I/O working?
[02:17:29] <PCW> that is, do the 7i76 pins show up
[02:18:37] <Valen> SpeedEvil: that is the funniest think I have seen in ages
[02:19:43] <Valen> my dad's mower is electric, had 24V of SLA in it, we replaced it when it wore out with the same AH worth of lipo, goes forever
[02:22:08] <chopper79> Yes Sserial inputs are working
[02:22:14] <chopper79> they also show up
[02:26:21] <Tom_itx> i don't know what encoder you're using but i had to add pullups to mine since it's open collector output
[02:27:09] <chopper79> Using the Mesa THCAD300 frequency card. Not really an encoder like on motors
[02:27:53] <Tom_itx> ok
[02:28:47] <PCW> bbl
[02:28:55] <chopper79> ok
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[02:35:49] <Jymmm> Tubeless tire with broken bead? Ratching tie down strap works wonders!!!
[02:38:24] <Tom_itx> so does propane
[02:38:46] <Tom_itx> and it's more fun
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[02:49:47] <Jymmm> Uh.... Nooooooooooooooo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ651hdwCM4
[02:53:21] <Jymmm> I really do love my nitrogen tank, but I need to get a bigger on.
[02:53:23] <Jymmm> one.
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[03:32:41] <rootB> Is linuxCNC better than MACH3?
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[03:32:53] <rootB> I've seen a lot of pluggings for MACH3 but i pressume the LINUXCNC community is bigger right?
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[03:38:00] <chopper79> PCW: I can not help but think I am on the wrong connector on the 7i76 for the THCAD300 FO+/-
[03:40:02] <chopper79> I know the THCAD is frequency out but if I put a volt meter on the FO pins I can get a small voltage reading that increases or decreases as I change voltage. This leads me to think that the output is working from the THCAD. they fact that it does not show up in hal show or anything as being active makes me think its the wrong input.
[03:43:54] <chopper79> Based on our discussion earlier though and going through which connector and inputs to use (TB3 ENCA- and ENCA+ or pins 7,8) makes me think its potentially in my config. The issue is its the 5i20 config that comes with LCNC, I tested it stock with no mods to the config except changing 5i20 to 5i25 and I get the same result as my config though. which puts me back to the inputs I am using on the 7i76 maybe.
[03:46:07] <chopper79> the one thing that is really weird if all else is ok is the fact that the following : setp hm2_5i25.0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1 is set in the hal file but yet when you go to show or meter is reads as 0
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[03:54:26] <pcw_home> TB3 is correct, pins 7 through 15 are the encoder pins
[03:55:11] <chopper79> ok
[03:56:14] <chopper79> Just did something and got some changes. I used only the FO+ and if I loosen the set screw and pull the wire out a little and allow it to sit loose. I get a temporary change in hal show and on the GUI for LCNC
[03:56:48] <chopper79> I know that is not good on electronics but it proves that I do have things in some what working fashion.
[03:57:13] <pcw_home> is the 7i76 jumpered for differential inputs?
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[03:58:20] <pcw_home> if its set for TTL and you connect differential inputs you wont get any signal
[03:59:06] <chopper79> W4,5,6 are all jumped to the right
[04:03:28] <pcw_home> sounds like somethings wrong with the interface (if you set the THCAD divider to divide by 64 or whatever the highest is you can debug the wiring with a voltmeter)
[04:04:56] <pcw_home> (the voltage across F0+ and F0- should be close to 0 and the voltage from either to ground should be like 2V)
[04:05:30] <pcw_home> (measured at the 7I76 ENCA+ and ENCA- pins)
[04:06:05] <chopper79> ummmm..... Well all i did was remove the jumper from F1 and put it on F128 and I have changes happening on their own.
[04:08:44] <chopper79> F/32, F/64, F/128 all allow changes to happen to the raw counts, velocity, etc. F/1 does nothing at all. Granted even though changes are happening the voltage reading is still way off
[04:09:36] <pcw_home> probably probably the pulse width is too narrow if the encoder filter is on
[04:10:01] <pcw_home> probably probably probably
[04:10:16] <chopper79> ok so where to even begin to change that?
[04:11:01] <pcw_home> setp blah blah blah .filter false
[04:11:37] <pcw_home> or just run at F/32
[04:12:15] <pcw_home> (and change the scaling)
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[04:16:32] <chopper79> Added the filter and it now works on F/1
[04:16:38] <chopper79> thank you
[04:18:19] <chopper79> Unfortunately the scale must be way off. If I remove voltage volts rests at 45.3 volts and when power is applied voltage goes up to 101.5 volts with only 10.5 volts of actual input power.
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[04:37:34] <chopper79> PCW: all good for now.... Thank you sir
[04:46:12] <furrywolf> that took way too fucking long. the eu2000 is ANNOYING to work on.
[04:46:22] <furrywolf> I'll add oil and gas tomorrow and see if it worked...
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[04:46:57] <furrywolf> it's built like one of those wooden puzzles with all the pieces with little notches that only fit together one way and in one order.
[04:47:10] <furrywolf> and you have to take out every one of them to get to the timing belt
[04:48:37] <furrywolf> the engine sorta floats in the middle of all these interlocking pieces. it has no frame. the plastic body supports everything...
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[04:59:35] <furrywolf> bbl, wolfy bedtime
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[13:46:55] <R2E4_> Hi all...
[13:47:26] <cthompson> you can't prove that
[13:47:30] <cthompson> I mean, um
[13:47:32] <cthompson> hi
[13:47:52] <R2E4_> I am gettting a machine that uses Yaskawa servo drives. I am going to retrofit to Linuxcnc.
[13:49:23] <R2E4_> The drives 0-10v so no problem using mesa 5i25 and 7i77, question is the encoders on the motors go back into the drives, there is an output for encoders and I would think I could send that into encoder input of the 7i77 but wont the two be fighting each other trying to set themselves?
[13:50:57] <archivist> iirc one does velocity and the other position
[13:51:13] <archivist> so less fighting than you think
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[13:57:12] <R2E4_> Does it matter which one does what? I would think Linuxcnc would need it for positioning
[14:04:22] <pcw_home> Thats typically how newer drives work, motor has fancy serial absolute encoder that goes only to drive,
[14:04:24] <pcw_home> drive outputs quadrature for position feedback
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[14:09:07] <R2E4_> Hi pcw, thanks. My friend just ordered some mesa boards from you. We are going to upgrade his junk mach3 stepper setup to mesa Linuxcnc servo.
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[14:11:08] * JT-Shop needs some kind of thing to set the amount of stock that sticks out of the collet on the CHNC
[14:11:36] <archivist> a stop in a tool holder
[14:12:08] <archivist> like us old timers used in a capstan
[14:13:16] <archivist> only works if you leave no pip after parting or have a small hole for the pip
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[14:32:54] <archivist> JT-Shop, or are you asking about http://www.rotagriponline.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&product_id=11102&flypage=shop.flypage&pop=0&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=29
[14:36:46] <JT-Shop> it could have a hole in the end for the pip
[14:40:46] <archivist> we had a weight in the bar feeder to push it out the collet
[14:42:04] <archivist> the noise of the bar rattling in the feeder.....grrr
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[14:54:13] <norias> golly
[14:54:15] <norias> can't spell
[14:56:37] * JT-Shop wishes he had a bar feeder sometimes
[14:58:15] <CaptHindsight> was there some neurotoxin released on the public today? I'm getting the dumbest email questions or responses this morning in recent history.
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[15:34:32] <cthompson> CaptHindsight: it's the opposite. People are normally dumb, it's the days they're not that are the rare ones.
[15:34:49] <cthompson> yesterday I asked one of our developers "Do you want A, B or C?" and he replied with "yes"
[15:34:52] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Sf8ohG2aY
[15:34:55] <ssi> holy shit that's a fast machine
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[15:35:41] <ssi> skip to 1:30 to see where it transitions from raster to vector
[15:35:46] <ssi> the vector speeds are nuts
[15:38:02] <cthompson> thats astounding
[15:38:31] <ssi> yuss
[15:38:37] <zeeshan|2> wow thats pretty
[15:38:40] <zeeshan|2> whatever that design is
[15:38:48] <zeeshan|2> ssi you dont need 5000 ipm
[15:38:53] <zeeshan|2> 200 ipm is plenty
[15:38:55] <ssi> zeeshan|2: gonna go tell that guy he shouldn't have 6000mm/s?
[15:38:59] <zeeshan|2> LOL
[15:39:01] <zeeshan|2> you got me!
[15:39:03] <ssi> heeheheh
[15:39:19] <ssi> the accel on that machine is immense
[15:39:29] <zeeshan|2> that is hot
[15:39:31] <zeeshan|2> is that on metal
[15:39:32] <pcw_home> not moving much
[15:39:37] <ssi> chalkboard
[15:39:52] <ssi> pcw_home: it makes a couple quick moves all the way across the piece
[15:39:56] <ssi> like cutting the diagonal line
[15:39:58] <ssi> and it's FAST
[15:40:05] <pcw_home> linear motors maybe
[15:40:16] <ssi> like voice coil motors or something?
[15:41:39] <pcw_home> or unrolled BLDC
[15:41:52] <ssi> hm neat
[15:42:09] <CaptHindsight> cthompson: that was funny, similar events today
[15:42:13] <pcw_home> no ball screw inertia
[15:42:40] <pcw_home> no backlash
[15:43:10] <pcw_home> (low force but fine for laser)
[15:43:24] <ssi> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Yaskawa-STF35230M-AC1L-BDB-Servo-Linear-Motor-57-25-Travel-Length-Encoder-/170987551281?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cfa6fa31
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[15:43:37] <CaptHindsight> 'Gold is $1170/oz, I'd like $20 worth today and how much is shipping?"
[15:43:41] <ssi> want
[15:44:09] <ssi> CaptHindsight: at that price a gram is $37 and gram bars have high premiums
[15:44:42] <ssi> 1/2 gram bars are $33 on apmex
[15:44:55] <CaptHindsight> shrimp, gas, resins etc. it's similar
[15:45:06] <ssi> gram bars are $49
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[15:46:05] <CaptHindsight> people only want one or a small amount but don't under stand why they can't just purchase just one slice of an apple
[15:46:34] <ssi> you CAN, but 1/2g is about as small as it gets
[15:46:39] <ssi> and a 1/2g bar of gold is effin tiny
[15:47:00] <CaptHindsight> the apple is $1, why is one slice 50 cents?
[15:47:12] <ssi> they have secondary market 1/2g bars for $29
[15:47:18] <ssi> that's as close as you're gonna get :D
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[15:47:28] <CaptHindsight> "but why?"
[15:47:30] <ssi> http://www.apmex.com/product/60865/1-2-gram-gold-bar-secondary-market
[15:47:36] <ssi> economies of scale :)
[15:47:45] <CaptHindsight> but I'm special
[15:47:49] <CaptHindsight> :)
[15:47:58] <ssi> comes with a free participation trophy
[15:48:28] <ssi> here you go
[15:48:28] <ssi> http://www.apmex.com/product/59779/1-gram-silver-bar-secondary-market
[15:48:43] <CaptHindsight> free sticker, fun for all
[15:48:44] <ssi> lol it's $1.49 over spot per bar
[15:48:58] <ssi> 52 cents worth of silver for two bux
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[15:50:33] <CaptHindsight> ssi: see but I'm special and I think that you should bear the risk, not me of dividing up anything that you sell
[15:50:55] <ssi> I'm sure you do :D
[15:51:00] <CaptHindsight> lol
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[15:53:34] <CaptHindsight> it's like trying to have parts machined but avoiding having to pay any setup costs
[15:54:26] <CaptHindsight> MOQ is 1 part, but the 1st one is going to be $1k, the next 10 are $100ea
[15:54:39] <CaptHindsight> a difficult concept for some to grasp
[15:55:55] <ssi> it's easier to grasp if you quote it as NRE
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[16:04:23] <ssi> https://www.popmarket.com/popmarket/ray-parker-jr-run-dmc-ghostbusters-stay-puft-edition/details/33161436?feature-name=today-s-deal&feature=117464441
[16:04:26] <ssi> omfg
[16:04:29] <ssi> it's marshmallow scented
[16:19:41] <cthompson> "What'd you do, Ray?"
[16:19:49] <ssi> I totally ordered it
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[16:28:09] <cthompson> ssi: you post a popculture 'splosion of a vinyl record and someone named LikeVinyl times out
[16:28:13] <cthompson> your links are powerful
[16:29:12] <ssi> lololol
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[17:13:22] <JT-Shop> anyone have any rental car promo codes? I need to rent a car in Anchorage for a week
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[17:21:11] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: which company?
[17:21:53] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: AAA, AARP
[17:22:14] <Deejay> ACME
[17:22:18] <Deejay> ;)
[17:22:35] <Jymmm> Deejay: He said a car, not a rocket
[17:22:46] <Jymmm> nor rocket boots
[17:22:53] <Deejay> oh, my fault ;)
[17:23:00] <Jymmm> =)
[17:24:24] <JT-Shop> the lowest rate company
[17:24:54] <Jymmm> Rent-A-Wreck
[17:25:03] <Deejay> hrhr
[17:25:22] <Jymmm> https://www.rentawreck.com/
[17:25:26] <Jymmm> It's real
[17:26:38] <Jymmm> http://www.carrentalservice.org/California/UglyDucklingRentACar.htm
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[17:27:01] <Jymmm> Alaska Rentals http://www.carrentalservice.org/index.php?id_level2=1
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[17:29:17] <Jymmm> Uh oh, only a C+ http://www.bbb.org/alaskaoregonwesternwashington/business-reviews/auto-renting-and-leasing/payless-car-rental-in-anchorage-ak-12310/
[17:31:46] <CaptHindsight> ssi: it's more like they want 1 nail vs the whole box
[17:33:32] <ssi> yea I get what you're saying
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[18:21:03] <_methods> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3r6xj4s0l54g7nv/2015-06-09%2008.03.16.mp4?dl=0
[18:21:07] <_methods> big lathe on the truck
[18:23:07] <alex4nder> damn
[18:23:37] <_methods> hehe
[18:24:07] <_methods> i always forget to take pictures loading/unloading equipment
[18:24:12] <_methods> i finally remembered this time
[18:24:24] <_methods> i couldn't unloading cause i had to drive the forklift
[18:25:08] <_methods> i should have remembered to bring some charcoal with me to work today
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[18:40:49] <Jymmm> 109F yesterday, ouch
[18:40:54] <ssi> charcoal?
[18:41:03] <Jymmm> Sun
[18:41:32] <Jymmm> Big ball of light in sky
[18:42:36] <ssi> _methods: that's a hell of a machine
[18:45:37] <Nick001-shop> And your going to convert it to CNC - Right
[18:46:00] <_methods> hahah no cnc
[18:46:02] <_methods> not on that one
[18:46:12] <_methods> charcoal to make diamonds with
[18:46:19] <_methods> while i was unloading it
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[18:56:00] <ssi> lol
[18:56:07] <ssi> what's it weigh
[18:56:10] <ssi> <30k I guess :P
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[19:06:26] <_methods> i think just over 30k since the forklift i was on was a 30k and it wouldn't lift it without some help
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[19:06:40] <_methods> it wasn't poppin the back end up
[19:06:50] <_methods> but it was close
[19:07:02] <_methods> so probably right at 30k
[19:07:56] <_methods> heavy enough to make sphincter diamonds
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[19:25:11] <smartattack> i'm trying to get my first simple cnc running and having some trouble. i built a Gen7 (v1.4.1) and have tried a few firmwares - right now i'm on Repetier v9.1 and whatever gcode i try to load and print i get a stream of "Unknown command" responses (using repetier host but similar in pronterface)
[19:25:56] <smartattack> is this a common issue? I'm afraid I don't know where to start to debug this - the gcode looks valid to my untrained eyes, i've tried several small sample gcode scripts like one that draws a circle... is there a better way to test this?
[19:25:58] <cradek> are you using linuxcnc somehow?
[19:26:16] <cradek> (I don't know what any of those things are)
[19:26:16] * smartattack glances around
[19:26:30] <_methods> lol
[19:26:43] <smartattack> this isn't a general linux cnc channel, i see. :/
[19:26:46] <smartattack> does anyone know of one?
[19:26:53] <cradek> oh haha
[19:27:04] <cradek> linuxcnc is a particular realtime machine control software
[19:27:12] <smartattack> sorry gang - i'm using a non-linuxcnc-cnc
[19:27:16] <smartattack> :>
[19:27:18] <cradek> but I love the word "pronterface"
[19:27:19] <SpeedEvil> Burn him!
[19:27:23] <_methods> you should try #reprap
[19:27:32] <smartattack> thanks, appreciate it
[19:27:35] <SpeedEvil> :)
[19:27:39] <cradek> hope you get it
[19:28:24] <_methods> and it sounds like your not getting good communication with those errors
[19:28:39] <_methods> will it home out or move when you press mdi buttons?
[19:28:55] <_methods> jog/home buttons
[19:29:47] <smartattack> yes, it moves manually and seems to track correctly
[19:29:53] <smartattack> just flubs with any gcode i send it
[19:30:21] <_methods> interesting
[19:30:22] <cradek> is it a serial port or something?
[19:30:27] <_methods> usb probably
[19:30:36] <_methods> 3d printer stuff
[19:30:59] <_methods> not sure what a gen7 is
[19:31:09] <_methods> but i'm assuming a 3d reprap of some sort
[19:31:13] <JT-Shop> lol I got corporate rate at Avis and saved $120 on a weeks rental
[19:31:42] <_methods> wo wnice
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[19:32:15] <JT-Shop> I'll probably get tons of offers now at my business
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[19:32:44] <JT-Shop> oh I saved $150 counting the reduction in taxes
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[19:49:13] <CaptHindsight> pronterface is part of printrun an application for *duinos
[19:50:52] <CaptHindsight> http://www.pronterface.com/ thank you Linuxcnc developers for not considering developing this type of GUI
[19:51:39] <CaptHindsight> http://forums.reprap.org/file.php?279,file=9129,filename=PronterfaceConnect.jpg
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[19:52:28] <tjtr33> is the ghost gunner really stiff enuf to mill aluminum?
[19:52:57] <CaptHindsight> doesn't it just poke a few holes?
[19:53:29] <tjtr33> seems to contour
[19:54:13] <CaptHindsight> I think it's like the tooling for the AK47 v3482, 1mm tolerance on everything and still manages to send projectiles in mainly one direction
[19:54:30] <_methods> it's only for 80% recievers
[19:54:39] <_methods> not much machining left to do
[19:54:53] <JT-Shop> good way to waste a few hours try and remember how to communicate with an AB PLC
[19:55:03] <CaptHindsight> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec01/images/cubase1201ohmforce1.l.gif printerface could have been worse
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[19:55:41] <_methods> you can buy a 80% jig for like $50
[19:55:56] <_methods> and do the same thing the "ghost gunner" does lol
[19:55:59] <tjtr33> no contouring needed?
[19:56:18] <_methods> i don't think so
[19:56:35] <_methods> think it's all drilling
[19:57:01] <CaptHindsight> "ghost gunner" is also making a few $$ off the same people that think that cnc glue guns will revolutionize manufacturing
[19:57:14] <tjtr33> wait doesnt it interpolate the holes? or is it exactly 2 two supplied endmill sizes (bad use of end mill, drilling )
[19:57:18] <_methods> http://www.ar-15lowerreceivers.com/5-ways-complete-80-lower-receiver/
[19:57:45] <tjtr33> my question is about the machine design stiffness, i got no guns
[19:58:08] <_methods> i think it's a pile of shit
[19:58:15] <CaptHindsight> and at the same time testing the waters to see how close they can get to selling parts that don't have to have a serial number
[19:58:26] <Crom> tjb1, lower can be pretty sloppy.. all the pins are detented
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[19:58:41] <Crom> tjtr33, lower can be pretty sloppy.. all the pins are detented
[19:58:48] <CaptHindsight> their plastic receivers were confiscated for being "too complete"
[19:58:51] <tjtr33> most gun work i've seen scared me ( being a moldmaker )
[19:59:39] <Crom> most 80%'s arent going to be match weapons
[20:00:36] <Crom> CaptHindsight, they were 2 shot... main cavity was one color and the outside was a different color
[20:01:00] <tjtr33> they built molds, wow
[20:01:20] <Crom> and they shot the main cavity first... BATF are idiots
[20:01:50] <Crom> power hungry bureaucrats
[20:02:00] <_methods> nobody at the batf takes that shit serious
[20:02:07] <_methods> i'ts retards in washington
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[20:02:34] <_methods> some momo on capitol hill sees someone print a gun and goes ermahgerd
[20:02:36] <Crom> it's the us attorneys who want wins on thier cases
[20:02:39] <_methods> its the end of the world
[20:03:04] <_methods> even though the plastic POS will just blow up when you shoot it
[20:03:19] <Crom> I'm still working towards a machine stiff enough to do a 80% to close enough tollerances ..
[20:03:38] <CaptHindsight> _methods: how else do you handle boogeymen? besides groping grandma at the airport?
[20:03:54] <Crom> buffer tube mount is the part that breaks..
[20:04:07] <_methods> hehe indeed
[20:04:46] <Crom> which is why I get AL 6061 or better 80%'s
[20:04:51] <_methods> i can slap together a gun made from parts from home depot with less effort
[20:05:04] <_methods> that will work
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[20:05:18] <CaptHindsight> I was tempted to sell a SLA printer with a resin that easily holds up to firing
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[20:05:32] <_methods> a spring, nail, and pipe and you got a zip gun
[20:05:43] <Crom> I think I'm gonna go the 30 blackhawk route.. more pow less ping
[20:06:12] <CaptHindsight> with SLA you easily get 25um res (0.002" tolerance)
[20:06:43] <Crom> boldrepublic.com
[20:07:10] <_methods> and if that yoyo from ghost gunner had any brain he could just 3d print a frame that you filled in with a more durable resin to make his gun
[20:07:34] <CaptHindsight> yeah, lots of ways to make em
[20:07:56] <Crom> 5.56mmx45mm .223 remington has too sharp of a impulse for me.. I prefer .308 or 30-06, but I'm not building a AR-10
[20:09:17] <alex4nder> Crom: you mean .300 blackout?
[20:09:49] <Crom> oh yeah blackout
[20:09:54] <alex4nder> I've been thinking the same
[20:09:58] <CaptHindsight> I don't see what the terrorism even is with those, 95% of the serial numbered, professionally made weapons made it past TSA checkpoints
[20:10:00] <alex4nder> I don't want to carry around an AR-10 while hunting.
[20:10:11] <Crom> sorry used to work near blackhawk by Walnut Creek
[20:10:37] <alex4nder> 6.5 grendel is another option
[20:10:43] <alex4nder> but ammo is annoying to obtain
[20:11:40] <Crom> 300 blackout available at walmart
[20:11:50] <alex4nder> yah
[20:11:55] <alex4nder> it's just not a very good round
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[20:14:03] <Crom> hmm .30 carbine
[20:14:31] <Crom> just gotta find a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 carbine
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[20:24:39] <Computer_barf> hey guys
[20:25:04] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: there was recent test with TSA
[20:25:11] <XXCoder> 70 items was sent into airports
[20:25:16] <XXCoder> 67 was missed
[20:25:38] <Computer_barf> no big surprise
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[20:25:46] <XXCoder> my friend once visited with 3 utility knives by mistake
[20:25:51] <XXCoder> tsa found one but missed 2
[20:26:30] <Computer_barf> this time... this time the government is going to get it right
[20:26:42] <XXCoder> and close tsa? heh
[20:26:51] <Computer_barf> if only we get the right people..
[20:26:54] <XXCoder> any agency is never willing to go away
[20:27:03] <Computer_barf> then we can finally solve the problem of people
[20:28:23] <tjtr33> ghost gunner: 75mm x 140mm x 60mm travels , Nema 17 steppers, 10krpm 115W colleted spindle, 1.7meters/min, 20u stepsize before microstepping.
[20:28:24] <tjtr33> round ways, ball screws (so sayteh the manual about the dual X screws )
[20:29:13] <tjtr33> tiny but stiffer than the drill press-like mini mills
[20:29:18] <Computer_barf> that's a mighty small mill
[20:29:31] <tjtr33> teensy ( the tech term )
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[20:32:39] <alex4nder> tjtr33: I'm curious how close they can actually get to 'mil spec' with that kit
[20:33:29] <Computer_barf> im pretty sure the measure was probably , can it work
[20:33:37] <Computer_barf> in terms of carving out blanks
[20:34:03] <Computer_barf> it would be interesting to see photos of surface texture
[20:34:39] <Computer_barf> unfortunantly, the size of the build space , being so small, it seems unlikely the product will be repurposed for many other purposes
[20:35:40] <alex4nder> the biggest problem I've seen people have is with their fcg pin hole position/sizing
[20:38:30] <alex4nder> 'host Gunner is designed to cut deep grooves and thus doesn't need some insanely fast gibberish feed rate to overcome an inadequate design.'
[20:38:31] <Computer_barf> ewww my sentence format was icky in my last statement
[20:38:38] <alex4nder> haha "alright guys"
[20:43:29] <Computer_barf> I think to a certain degree , after having done the liberator, and dark wallet, that ghost gunner , although keeping with the disruptive crypto-anarchist theme, there is more of an ancap aspect to it in that cody probably has to do something that makes some decent funds.
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[20:44:05] <Computer_barf> i do expect that it will hardly be the last thing he does
[20:44:10] <Deejay> gn8
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[20:44:50] <Computer_barf> dark wallet and liberator were essentially lost leaders
[20:48:42] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: the news today is "that the agency failed to uncover the terrorist connections of 73 aviation workers when it did background checks of them"
[20:50:10] <Computer_barf> i wonder how direct of connections they mean.. they often play a game of six degrees of separation
[20:50:23] <CaptHindsight> no reports of how many children or grandmas were groped in the process
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[20:50:41] <XXCoder> connection does not mean actove
[20:50:46] <XXCoder> *active but yeah
[20:50:50] <CaptHindsight> https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/2015/OIG_15-98_Jun15.pdf
[20:50:51] <XXCoder> should have known
[20:51:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tsa-fails-identify-73-employees-terror-watch-lists-n371601
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[20:56:24] <Computer_barf> i recently discovered that magnatrons have two big magnets in them (duh, how did i miss that), which has been quite nice to me in the something to stick tools on the wall department
[20:59:54] <Computer_barf> oh anyway , i described my audio speakers and small amplifier , and was wondering about the potential negative effects of speakers in proximity to components in my control box
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[22:39:17] <Computer_barf> XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TEq1iyifpQ
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[22:47:16] <tjb1> Serious question here, any reason I couldn't use water in a braking system? Note it is not in a car and won't be under any heat
[22:47:56] <_methods> you should be able to use any fluid
[22:48:06] <_methods> just some have "better" properties than others
[22:48:51] <tjb1> Which would be best at preventing corossion, distilled or deionized?
[22:48:53] <_methods> and better is obviously situationally dependent
[22:49:11] <tjb1> corrosion sorry
[22:49:15] <_methods> well deionoized i believe
[22:49:28] <_methods> but i'm no expert
[22:49:45] <_methods> probably want to chemically treat it if it will be in a system for any period of time
[22:49:53] <_methods> to prevent bio
[22:50:07] <tjb1> maybe use the water in liquid cooling for computers?
[22:50:38] <_methods> no idea
[22:51:02] <_methods> i've never tried to use water for a braking system and you haven't provided a whole lot of info about the actual application
[22:51:10] <_methods> so any info i provide is purely speculation
[22:51:45] <tjb1> handbrake on racing simulator
[22:51:58] <tjb1> pretty much this - http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae109/derekashley1967/HydHB/dsdhydhb.png
[22:53:39] <_methods> hehe cool
[22:54:43] <tjb1> wonder what I could add to the water to keep the seals nice
[22:55:39] <_methods> i don't see why water wouldn't work for a system that size
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[22:56:04] <_methods> should make it easy to maintain
[22:56:21] <_methods> http://hydraulicspneumatics.com/200/TechZone/HydraulicFluids/Article/False/6452/TechZone-HydraulicFluids
[22:56:51] <_methods> you don't have to worry about it freezing as long as you keep it by your computer lol
[22:57:19] <Rab> tjb1, water is problematic because of its low boiling point.
[22:57:23] <tjb1> no worry of spilling it either
[22:57:31] <_methods> for his application it's perfect
[22:57:37] <_methods> no heat no cold
[22:57:42] <_methods> small system
[22:58:28] <_methods> for a system that size i wouldn't even worry about bacteria/bio
[22:58:34] <_methods> i'd just flush it every couple weeks
[22:58:43] <tjb1> lol
[22:58:47] <_methods> or empty it when you won't be using it for prolonged periods
[22:58:47] <tjb1> ill flush probably never
[22:59:03] <_methods> that too
[22:59:04] <_methods> heheh
[22:59:47] <Rab> tjb1, any reason not to use a light silicone or mineral oil?
[23:00:15] <tjb1> well from what I understand, mineral oil still stains carpet and such
[23:01:01] <Rab> Why is the system hydraulic at all, instead of using a proportional sensor right on the lever?
[23:01:28] <tjb1> like a potentiometer?
[23:02:00] <Rab> Well, what's reading the pressure for input to the simulator?
[23:02:15] <tjb1> Pressure Transducer to Teensy 3.1
[23:02:56] <Rab> Yeah, seems like you could just use a pot.
[23:03:17] <_methods> apparently you don't understand racing sim people
[23:03:22] <tjb1> but what gives you tension then?
[23:03:30] <Rab> tjb1, add some springs.
[23:03:34] <tjb1> I was going to go the pot route but giving tension to the arm is the problem
[23:03:41] <tjb1> Rab: so when I let go of it what happens?
[23:03:41] <Rab> _methods, definitely not.
[23:03:59] <_methods> they go to great lengths to create "realism"
[23:04:07] <tjb1> this isnt about realism for me
[23:04:14] <tjb1> its cheaper for me
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[23:04:16] <Rab> tjb1, the spring returns the lever?
[23:04:24] <tjb1> Rab: at a high rate of speed
[23:05:14] <tjb1> I even printed the handle - https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ezkiqbsgnduq5o/2015-06-01%2021.51.46.jpg?dl=0
[23:05:40] <tjb1> but a cost effective controlled return to home is what stopped me
[23:05:46] <Rab> _methods, mere water can't hope to authentically imitate the compressibility of genuine DOT-certified hydraulic braking fluid.
[23:06:26] <_methods> did i ever say that?
[23:06:51] <_methods> he asked if you could use water
[23:06:53] <_methods> i said yes
[23:07:53] <tjb1> ill try it, if it doesnt work ill move to baby/mineral oil
[23:07:54] <Rab> I think it's OK too. But I would definitely use corrosion inhibiters. Whatever devil-juice the PC watercooling people favor.
[23:08:21] <Rab> Or even plain old antifreeze.
[23:08:25] <tjb1> biggest concern now is the clusterf of fittings I need to hook things together
[23:08:33] <_methods> yeah it's a nice little system so it's easy to try whatever you want
[23:08:46] <_methods> like you have to dump 50 gallons of hydraulic oil
[23:09:22] <_methods> not like you have to dump 50 gallons of hydraulic oil
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[23:10:26] <_methods> hell you could probably use a gas shock
[23:10:36] <_methods> gas spring
[23:10:51] <tjb1> Rab: If you know of a way to return the brake to 0 quickly and controlled to where it doesnt slam hard, please share
[23:11:39] <Rab> tjb1, what's the mechanism by which a real braking system accomplishes that?
[23:12:05] <tjb1> Rab: really nothing but I'm not sure 3D printed parts would take that abuse very long
[23:12:18] <tjb1> nor the pot measuring rotation
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[23:16:55] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/1wM6ST7.jpg
[23:17:03] <zeeshan|2> GOOD ol technique
[23:17:07] <zeeshan|2> works when no lathe is around
[23:19:01] <tjb1> by the time I screw around with a pot and springs and something to cushion it im already at the cost of a ready made handbrake
[23:19:11] <zeeshan|2> tjb1: whats wrong with brake fluid
[23:19:18] <tjb1> stains
[23:19:36] <zeeshan|2> use dot5
[23:19:43] <zeeshan|2> silicone based
[23:20:03] <tjb1> what is benefit over water?
[23:20:12] <zeeshan|2> how much psi
[23:20:19] <tjb1> im not sure
[23:20:36] <Rab> tjb1, what I'm getting at is, how will the water system give you springiness/cushioning?
[23:21:10] <tjb1> Rab: probably add this pull cylinder with the rubber bushings - http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae109/derekashley1967/HydHB/dsdhydhb.png
[23:21:28] <tjb1> the red parts
[23:21:37] <zeeshan|2> what size is that master
[23:21:50] <zeeshan|2> 500 psi sensor
[23:21:51] <zeeshan|2> ah
[23:21:55] <zeeshan|2> i think water will be fine
[23:22:01] <zeeshan|2> just mix it with some glycol
[23:22:06] <zeeshan|2> or water wetter
[23:22:39] <zeeshan|2> or just use distilled water
[23:22:53] <zeeshan|2> you aint gonna crash if your system fails :D
[23:23:00] <tjb1> lol no
[23:23:19] <zeeshan|2> tjb1: did you see the pedal i made
[23:23:26] <tjb1> no
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[23:23:30] <Rab> Hydraulic systems are used specifically for the low compressibility of the fluid. Any springiness in the system is either intentional (usually springs) or inadvertent (line flex, etc). That cylinder pulls because it has a spring inside.
[23:23:36] <zeeshan|2> http://imgur.com/a/lm8k9
[23:23:51] <zeeshan|2> at 500 psi, water is pretty incompressible :D
[23:24:29] <tjb1> I figure the pull cylinder is needed
[23:24:37] <tjb1> with the bushings for some type of feel
[23:25:00] <tjb1> nice pedal zeeshan|2
[23:25:50] <zeeshan|2> thanks man
[23:26:32] <tjb1> zeeshan|2: I have a Obutto R3volution coming tomorrow
[23:27:08] <zeeshan|2> expensive rig!
[23:27:09] <zeeshan|2> :D
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[23:27:38] <tjb1> only live once!
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[23:39:53] <zeeshan|2> need help. 0.5 Vdc to 4.5 Vdc ratiometric from 5 Vdc excitation ....... VS.............. = 0.5 Vdc to 4.5 Vdc regulated
[23:40:15] <zeeshan|2> does ratiometric just mean that fluctuations in excitiation/supply voltage does not effect the pressure reading
[23:40:23] <zeeshan|2> cause it will ratiometrically adjust
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[23:51:12] <SpeedEvil> It means that if it outputs 2.5V at Vs=5V, it will output 2.4V at Vs=4.8
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[23:51:34] <SpeedEvil> So if you use an ADC with a reference voltage fed from Vs - it all works
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