#linuxcnc | Logs for 2015-06-01

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[00:52:06] <XXCoder> furrywolf: most manuals are
[00:56:33] <furrywolf> I asked the local honda shop last week why the valves still ticked when I set them to .008 and .006 like the manual said. without any hesitation, he answered "set them to .006 and .004". they don't tick anymore. lol
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[00:57:14] <XXCoder> fun
[00:58:02] <furrywolf> I'll need to head back there monday and pick up an exhaust valve rotator, an intake valve stem seal, two valve cover gaskets, and, if they have a used one in a pile, a california-compliant airbox.
[00:58:26] <XXCoder> bodge it
[00:59:04] <furrywolf> if they want more than $5 for the airbox, I'll just drill the extra holes in this one and stuff hoses through them.
[00:59:54] <furrywolf> oh, and the fitting that connects the end of the choke cable to the choke linkage
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[01:40:37] <PetefromTn_> Well I spent some time working on the CNC lathe this weekend
[01:40:47] <lffurrywo> yay
[01:40:54] <lffurrywo> I spent some time working on generators. less fun.
[01:41:08] <XXCoder> PetefromTn_: nice
[01:41:14] <PetefromTn_> I have been stripping sheetmetal parts and respraying them for what seems like forever
[01:41:21] <XXCoder> couldn't do anything this weekend, too "crashed"
[01:41:41] <PetefromTn_> which is actually just fine since I am trying to scrape the cash together for the new electronics parts
[01:42:17] <PetefromTn_> Tomorrow I have some customer work to do but I want to get to Home Despot and get some more of the paint I bought for it.
[01:42:52] <lffurrywo> I got two cans of white appliance epoxy for the parts on mine, to match the white machine.
[01:43:59] <PetefromTn_> this one is gonna be smoke grey I think since that is what most of the base is painted and after cleaning it up it looks pretty nice so sticking with it.
[01:44:50] <lffurrywo> I might just skip painting any of the new stuff I added, and leave it bare aluminum.
[01:45:36] <PetefromTn_> Still researching new Servomotors and drives for the beast
[01:47:45] <PetefromTn_> sure wish this shit was not so damn expensive sigh
[01:48:06] <XXCoder> yeah
[01:52:45] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_ you got lathe work to make it profitable?
[01:53:11] <XXCoder> sigh how do I get tasks list so I can kill a task
[01:54:03] <PetefromTn_> Honestly I have been told by my best customer that he has work for me once it is running so that is debatable. I know that if it was running I could sell some of the parts I used to make with it at least
[01:54:26] <Tom_itx> XXCoder you lookin for: ps -aux
[01:54:51] <PetefromTn_> I also have some items I currently make using the mill vertically that would be much easier on the lathe I think.
[01:55:04] <Tom_itx> XXCoder then kill -9 xxxx
[01:55:10] <Tom_itx> is what i do
[01:55:24] <Tom_itx> in debian anyway
[01:55:24] <XXCoder> okay my bot should time out now
[01:55:49] <XXCoder> or just remote disconnected
[01:56:01] <Tom_itx> what are you trying to do??
[01:56:20] <XXCoder> oh making a good bot for other channel not this
[01:56:23] <Tom_itx> that's how i kill my bot to restart it
[01:56:32] <XXCoder> if wanna see, go to #pircbot
[01:57:00] <Tom_itx> i've seen bots
[01:57:10] <Tom_itx> ^^ that's how i kill mine to restart it
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[01:58:09] <Tom_itx> like that
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[02:00:21] <Tom_itx> XXCoder what bot are you using or did you write it?
[02:00:34] <XXCoder> using java library, writing it
[02:00:45] <XXCoder> right now it has time and leavenow
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[02:14:32] <tswartz> Can someone point me in the right direction? I used the stepconf utility to get my conf made, everything works fine. But how in the world do I make it run with gmoccapy?
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[03:30:25] <lffurrywo> meh. is pouring rain.
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[04:08:55] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/YNhVk0Z.jpg
[04:08:57] <zeeshan> yea!!
[04:08:59] <zeeshan> its coming together
[04:10:46] <lffurrywo> don't you have a thesis project to be working on? :P
[04:10:54] <zeeshan> F that :p
[04:10:56] <zeeshan> weekends are for car
[04:12:55] <lffurrywo> random question: what are charge cards good for? amex sent me an offer for one, but it seems... useless?
[04:13:14] <zeeshan> points
[04:13:25] <zeeshan> i literally spend say $100 on a cc
[04:13:33] <zeeshan> and then transfer money from debit to it
[04:13:37] <zeeshan> and get points! :D
[04:13:43] <lffurrywo> I get 1-4% cashback with my credit card...
[04:13:53] <lffurrywo> 4% on gas, which is quite nice.
[04:14:17] <lffurrywo> 4% on gas, 2% on travel, food, and some other categories I don't remember, 1% on all other purchases
[04:14:42] <zeeshan> i like points cause they keep collecting
[04:14:50] <zeeshan> and you can get it all back in a lumpsum
[04:15:07] <lffurrywo> I like cash. :P
[04:16:25] <lffurrywo> and the one they sent me an offer for has a $175 annual fee, which it would take a lot of rewards to make up for.
[04:17:59] <zeeshan> f that
[04:18:02] <zeeshan> 175 dollar sLOL
[04:18:22] <lffurrywo> yep
[04:18:39] <lffurrywo> for "points" that don't seem any more useful than the cashback I get with my credit card...
[04:19:52] <lffurrywo> https://www262.americanexpress.com/business-card-application/member/business-gold-charge-card/login/44446-104-1-CAPOBGRC
[04:20:37] <lffurrywo> Annual Membership Fee
[04:20:37] <lffurrywo> $0 for the first year, then $175
[04:20:44] <zeeshan> lol
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[04:22:01] <lffurrywo> so far this year I've made over $150 in cashback with my credit card... I think its pays more than the points add up to being worth.
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[04:24:52] <zeeshan> hmm thats pretty good
[04:25:35] <roycroft> why don't you just not get that charge card if you don't like the terms?
[04:25:45] * roycroft does not see how this is an issue at all
[04:26:28] <lffurrywo> it's not even a 1-cent-to-point ratio... apparantly 50,000 points is $300.
[04:26:39] <roycroft> i get credit card offers pretty much every week
[04:26:42] <lffurrywo> roycroft: I'm trying to figure out why ANYONE would get one. I must be missing something...
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[04:27:03] <roycroft> the amex charge cards generally do not have a limit
[04:27:16] <roycroft> for business people who expense a lot of stuff that can be useful
[04:27:30] <roycroft> and amex have some really great tools for categorizing expenses
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[04:27:53] <roycroft> i think most folks who use their charge cards are business people
[04:28:24] <roycroft> if you're going to expense $50k+ per year the annual fee is no big deal
[04:28:33] <lffurrywo> heh, my amex credit card also claims not to have a limit... or, rather, it has one number they give you, but it's just a suggestion, and they just won't tell you what it is. there's a form you can fill out on their web site that lets you know if an expected purchase would be approved or not.
[04:28:49] <roycroft> my current amex is a credit card and it has decent rewards and no annual fee
[04:29:23] <roycroft> my card has a limit, but it's $34,000
[04:29:26] <roycroft> so essentially no limit
[04:30:59] <lffurrywo> the number they told me is less than that, but I've put substantially larger balances on it with no problems, like they say you can... they won't tell you what your actual hidden limit is, but they do provide a form that lets you see if adding a given purchase to your card would be approved. it's rate-limited to keep you from probing information out of it.
[04:31:24] <roycroft> they told me exactly what the limit was when i opened the account
[04:31:33] <roycroft> when i had an amex charge card they did not tell me
[04:31:45] <roycroft> but the one i have now came with a clearly stipulated limit
[04:31:54] <roycroft> amex offer a lot of different products, with different terms
[04:32:01] <lffurrywo> yeah, the charge card offer I got states it has no limit, but is not unlimited. lol
[04:32:14] <roycroft> i pick the one that works for me and don't worry about who might use one of the others
[04:33:27] <lffurrywo> yeah, I think I'll file this charge card offer in the round cabinet with the rest of them. got THREE chase offers this week. lol
[04:33:49] <roycroft> i got a slate card a couple years ago
[04:33:50] <roycroft> it was great
[04:33:56] <roycroft> i needed to do a balance transfer
[04:34:08] <roycroft> they offered 18 months at 0% apr with 0 fees
[04:34:09] <lffurrywo> my amex isn't top-of-the-line, but it's got an acceptable limit, 12.24% interest (which I've never paid, because I pay it off every month), and good cashback.
[04:34:17] <lffurrywo> yeah, that's one of the ones I got.
[04:34:21] <lffurrywo> (an offer for
[04:34:23] <lffurrywo> )
[04:34:58] <roycroft> if you need to do a balance transfer it is the best deal in the industry right now
[04:35:27] <lffurrywo> I do not need to. I have no balances. heh.
[04:36:46] <roycroft> well sometimes stuff happens
[04:36:59] <roycroft> if so it's nice to be able to deal with it without paying interest
[04:37:10] <roycroft> in the meantime, keep circular filing the offers
[04:37:13] <roycroft> they will continue to come in
[04:38:08] <lffurrywo> I've gotten a gazillion credit card offers... this was the first charge card one, so I read it closely to see if it was useful...
[04:38:23] <lffurrywo> as far as I can tell, it's not. :)
[04:44:56] <lffurrywo> reading random web pages, it sounds like the points are best used for air travel, as some airlines will take them at a lot more than their cash value.
[04:46:51] <lffurrywo> bbl, wolfy bedtime
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[06:48:35] <Deejay> moin
[06:48:47] <Jymmm> howdy
[06:48:52] <Deejay> hey Jymmm :)
[06:49:22] <Jymmm> I'm getting all kinds of lucky today off ebay
[06:58:56] <XXCoder> yo Jymmm
[06:59:00] <XXCoder> cheap good stuff eh
[06:59:43] <Jymmm> 3x wifi uC modules for $3.27 shipped
[07:00:01] <Jymmm> 2x PIR Modules $2.25 shipped
[07:00:08] <XXCoder> that reminds me, gonna buy couple very cheapo wifi n usb
[07:00:53] <Jymmm> These are programmable uC modules that do wifi
[07:00:59] <Jymmm> no usb
[07:01:14] <Jymmm> 3.3V MAX
[07:01:27] <XXCoder> I know, it just reminded me of what I needed to buy
[07:01:32] <Jymmm> gotcha
[07:01:53] <XXCoder> I got old pc that I plan to convert to cnc router controller
[07:01:58] <Jymmm> These run at 80MHz
[07:02:08] <XXCoder> but my wifi module is moved to new pc so it has no networking
[07:02:21] <XXCoder> its just 5 bucks
[07:02:47] <XXCoder> whats awesome is that it has detechable attenta so I can attach say cannenta or sometbhing
[07:02:54] <Jymmm> Why is everyone *SO* wifi their PC's?! Ethernet is SO much better
[07:02:55] <XXCoder> or dish or whatever
[07:03:00] <XXCoder> well
[07:03:08] <XXCoder> I cant wire ethernet to my room
[07:03:24] <Jymmm> Why not?
[07:03:31] <XXCoder> and yes I prefer ethernet but oh well
[07:03:48] <XXCoder> I dont own house as well as would have been VERY complex router if no holes
[07:04:10] <XXCoder> distance is maybe 10 yards but with that route 3x as king
[07:04:12] <XXCoder> *long
[07:04:52] <Jymmm> Heh, I have 18" long drill bits =)
[07:05:04] <XXCoder> lol
[07:05:17] <XXCoder> it might be possible to wire inside ducts
[07:05:19] <XXCoder> but whatever
[07:05:32] <Jymmm> use existing telco jacks
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[07:05:43] <XXCoder> lol nightmare wiring
[07:05:58] <XXCoder> my room alone has NO cable and phone jacks
[07:06:03] <XXCoder> its always been storage before
[07:06:04] <Jymmm> ah
[07:06:08] <archivist> wifi is only right for public spaces and walking around shelves barcode scanning
[07:06:15] <XXCoder> and my moms has 7 cable jacks, 4 phone jacks
[07:06:24] <XXCoder> no idea in heck why it has that many
[07:06:39] <Jymmm> XXCoder: Then it's time to upgrade and install that cat5
[07:06:53] <XXCoder> no thanks not paying a cent upgrading house that arent mine
[07:07:19] <Jymmm> cat5 isn't that expensive and once run the performance will be so much better
[07:07:51] <Jymmm> 1000' box that is
[07:07:58] <XXCoder> yah wifi works fine for now
[07:08:09] <XXCoder> I got very heavy duty router
[07:08:18] <XXCoder> its at edge of customer grade
[07:08:24] <Jymmm> Uh huh
[07:09:37] <Jymmm> I'd like to replace this 24p gig switch with a managed one.
[07:10:08] <XXCoder> heyy nice usb scanner for $20 at aliexpress
[07:10:19] <XXCoder> meh my cuecat will do for now. been working fine for years
[07:10:22] <Jymmm> scanner?
[07:10:30] <XXCoder> barcode yeah
[07:10:32] <Jymmm> oh barcode
[07:10:36] <Jymmm> usb ?
[07:10:46] <Jymmm> or PS/2 ?
[07:10:51] <XXCoder> usb
[07:11:00] <XXCoder> if want one check out librarything store
[07:11:07] <Jymmm> link?
[07:11:20] <XXCoder> you can declaw it if needed, very easy just lift one leg off one chip
[07:11:35] <XXCoder> https://www.librarything.com/cuecat
[07:11:43] <Jymmm> Yeah, I used to have a bunch of PS/2 ones
[07:11:57] <XXCoder> nice I completely missed chance
[07:12:07] <XXCoder> but then I would still buy it, usb is better.
[07:12:11] <Jymmm> $15 thats too much
[07:12:34] <XXCoder> I suspect librarything is one that bought all that millions of usb cuecat when company went under
[07:13:01] <archivist> Symbol barcode scanners ftw
[07:13:04] <XXCoder> yeah when it was 5 or so years ago it was kickass deal
[07:13:19] <XXCoder> because you cant get broken one for under $50 lol
[07:13:25] <XXCoder> kidding but new is expensive then
[07:13:52] <Jymmm> hahaha http://www.ebay.com/itm/Case-of-100-Unmodified-CueCat-Barcode-Scanner-USB-Wand-/330557845837?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf6c8714d
[07:14:06] <XXCoder> 5 bucks enough
[07:14:08] <Jymmm> 20 cases available
[07:14:10] <XXCoder> *each
[07:14:13] <XXCoder> cheap but...
[07:14:30] <Jymmm> that's 2000
[07:14:39] <XXCoder> buy em sell as usb dilios
[07:14:42] <XXCoder> and 15 sold!!
[07:14:45] <XXCoder> dang!
[07:14:52] <XXCoder> thats 1500k sold
[07:15:06] <XXCoder> er 1500 not 1500k
[07:15:20] <archivist> were they that crap
[07:15:39] <XXCoder> archivist: well scanners was awesome
[07:15:46] <XXCoder> and idea well it was dot.com
[07:15:52] <XXCoder> it was REALLY bad idea
[07:16:11] <XXCoder> hackers found out it was stupid easy to "declaw"
[07:16:14] <XXCoder> they sued em
[07:16:27] <Jymmm> archivist: Radio Shack gave them away, but each one had a unique serial number that you registered with your account. It was basically way to track your interests for marketing.
[07:16:33] <XXCoder> indeed
[07:16:41] <XXCoder> Jymmm: I dont know what they was thinking
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[07:16:52] <XXCoder> I mean, would I bring laptop and scan stuff as I go at store?
[07:16:53] <XXCoder> jeez
[07:17:01] <XXCoder> now we got phones but yea
[07:17:13] <Jymmm> archivist: When you scanned a barcode, instead of it displaying 12345, ot would be your UID+BARCODe obfusicated.
[07:17:24] <archivist> now your browser does it for them
[07:17:38] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:17:49] <Jymmm> archivist: But someone figured out that if you lift a pin, it would disable the UID, and just be a HID device and input the barcode
[07:17:52] <XXCoder> cuecat would make for KICKASS password generator.
[07:18:25] <Jymmm> They read UPC and 3of9 iirc
[07:19:28] <archivist> most of the cheap scanners cannot do miniature barcodes though, needs a quality scanning head
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[07:23:55] <Jymmm> Ha, even the $400 scanners cant read Apple macbook barcodes =)
[07:24:41] <Jymmm> Hey, are all JTAG cables the same?
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[07:25:05] <XXCoder> dont think so? but I cant authorituly answer
[07:26:00] <XXCoder> woot!
[07:26:10] <XXCoder> repaired one of my kickass ledf flashlights
[07:26:19] <XXCoder> its cheap type but designed so strong
[07:26:23] <XXCoder> it can take abuse
[07:26:46] <Jymmm> till you have to repair it
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[07:27:04] <XXCoder> yeah it was acciently thrown a long distance
[07:27:09] <XXCoder> something jarred
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[07:27:22] <XXCoder> just needed to reseat after remove rubber cover for button
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[07:27:34] <XXCoder> and get it back on, it works perfectly again
[07:27:58] <XXCoder> it hit rock just right, it has nice dent on thick alum head
[07:28:27] <Jymmm> what you thought it was a banana?! How does one ACCIDENTALLY throw a flashlight?
[07:28:42] <XXCoder> tripped
[07:28:46] <Jymmm> ah
[07:28:49] <Jymmm> dont do that
[07:28:54] <XXCoder> no shit
[07:29:01] <XXCoder> I had a "proto strain"
[07:29:07] <XXCoder> lasted 2 days
[07:29:30] <Jymmm> is that like crotch rot?
[07:29:37] <XXCoder> lol nah
[07:29:51] <XXCoder> just short of actual strain that would have lasted weeks
[07:30:27] <XXCoder> wireless scanner 33 bucks
[07:30:28] <Jymmm> If a toy came with batteries, is it better to unseal the box and remove the battieries to prevent leaking, of leave the box sealed?
[07:30:45] <XXCoder> is batteries in toy?
[07:30:52] <Jymmm> yep
[07:31:02] <XXCoder> valuable sealed air type?
[07:31:17] <Jymmm> mitsubishi
[07:31:19] <XXCoder> (open and that company factory air goes away with toy value)
[07:31:47] <XXCoder> gonna love collectables
[07:32:10] <Jymmm> even if the batteries leak?
[07:32:31] <XXCoder> thankfully I dont collect battery powered stuff so dunno
[07:33:52] <Jymmm> These things are totally cool, but rather store them for 20 years instead.
[07:34:01] <XXCoder> oh yeah
[07:34:06] <XXCoder> I do have tron toys
[07:34:08] <XXCoder> new one
[07:34:19] <XXCoder> including disk that people say really stinks
[07:34:50] <Jymmm> There's a vintage toy store local I might ask
[07:35:04] <XXCoder> yeah I gonna check those toys
[07:35:09] <XXCoder> I dont want it ruined
[07:36:21] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec6SWy_7rug
[07:36:45] <Jymmm> Battle Hamsters!!!
[07:36:51] <XXCoder> lol
[07:37:00] <XXCoder> had to close video in hurry
[07:37:05] <XXCoder> handheld :(
[07:37:06] <Jymmm> suppose to have a tilt sensor too
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[07:37:22] <XXCoder> it dont work or what?
[07:37:33] <Jymmm> I dont play with it enough to know
[07:37:35] <XXCoder> or maybe it does work too well and it want to jump off to die lol
[07:37:56] <Jymmm> it's really animated, lots of sound effects,
[07:38:20] <XXCoder> https://www.librarything.com/cuecat
[07:38:22] <XXCoder> er
[07:38:26] <Jymmm> then does different things if you touch it? or it's ready to goto sleep
[07:38:28] <XXCoder> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tron-Legacy-Deluxe-Identity-Disc-Sam-Flynn-/121665983748
[07:39:05] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdYI_owiy8
[07:40:19] <XXCoder> know what would be awesome?
[07:40:26] <XXCoder> hack it to include webcams
[07:40:35] <RyanS> got a new bf30, although its chinese the Optimum ones seem better finished
[07:40:45] <XXCoder> and make it remote controlled and use visor
[07:40:50] <XXCoder> you see though mouse eyes
[07:41:15] <Jymmm> XXCoder: HAve you seen camera modules?! expensive
[07:41:31] <XXCoder> yeah not likely become main production
[07:41:34] <XXCoder> but fun maybe
[07:41:41] <XXCoder> have you ever seen plane one?
[07:41:45] <XXCoder> it is.. amazing
[07:41:55] <RyanS> i think 2mm cut in stainless, 20mm endmill is pretty good
[07:41:58] <Jymmm> drones, yea, and $$$$
[07:42:04] <XXCoder> Jymmm: nope
[07:42:16] <XXCoder> its head controlled so you looks like youre in plane
[07:42:21] <XXCoder> trying to find videp
[07:42:34] <Jymmm> XXCoder: find the CHEAP camera instead
[07:42:40] <Jymmm> XXCoder: fuck the video =)
[07:42:44] <XXCoder> hold on
[07:43:05] <XXCoder> load dammit
[07:43:24] <XXCoder> okay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toYrP_TZeOk
[07:43:50] <Jymmm> XXCoder: READ MY LIPS BIOTCH... Fuck, the, video!
[07:44:12] <XXCoder> man I REALLY want that plane
[07:44:12] <Jymmm> XXCoder: $25 for this POS http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-PTC06-Serial-Camera-Module-TTL-URAT-CMOS-1-4-inch-DC3-3V-5V-/221698185509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339e3dd925
[07:44:18] <XXCoder> it'd be like flying my plane
[07:45:09] <XXCoder> though I would add signal strength so I know when planes getting out of range,
[07:47:00] <XXCoder> might work
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[07:47:18] <XXCoder> it'd have to be very light so it can be mounted on 2 axis controller
[07:47:52] <XXCoder> 3 axis actually
[07:47:55] <XXCoder> a,b,c
[07:48:27] <XXCoder> 2 axis actually, A, C
[07:48:56] <XXCoder> 3 axis is probably overly complex
[07:48:58] <XXCoder> dunno
[07:49:55] <XXCoder> Jymmm: check my video link, at 0:03 time and pause
[07:49:58] <XXCoder> what ya think
[07:49:59] <Jymmm> Zion and Yosemite have banned pesonal drones
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[07:50:19] <XXCoder> techinically its radio plane not drone
[07:50:28] <XXCoder> but yeah police probably wont care
[07:50:46] <Jymmm> PPL are buzzing big horn sheep
[07:50:57] <Jymmm> dumbasses
[07:52:21] <Jymmm> And thus why I'm unlicensed for 120 seconds.... "I have no idea what heppend, this drone just fell out of the air and crashed"
[07:52:41] <XXCoder> 120 sec? 2 min?
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[07:52:50] <XXCoder> thats real tough punishment
[07:53:06] <Jymmm> The time it takes to jam the signal and the drone to go KaBoom
[07:54:07] <Jymmm> ppl are peeping tom high rise residentual buildings looking tinto windows and stuff
[07:54:24] <XXCoder> imange age of nanomachines
[07:54:42] <XXCoder> I bet you, nanofirewalls and nanosecurity will be everywhere
[07:55:03] <Jymmm> Nothing whitenoise and HV can't resolve =)
[07:55:30] <Jymmm> HAHAHAH, Spray it foam in a can =)
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[07:55:45] <XXCoder> nanomachine age would be weird.
[07:55:48] <XXCoder> spaceship in can
[07:56:02] <Jymmm> that shit it sticy as hell and doens't come off with typical solvents
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[07:56:25] <Jymmm> it'll jam up the rotars too
[07:57:17] <XXCoder> lol
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[07:57:37] <XXCoder> if machines small enough to deal with matter atoms wise glues dont matter
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[07:58:49] <Jymmm> 10KV will resolve that
[07:59:05] <XXCoder> heh
[07:59:14] <XXCoder> dunno what future will be like really
[07:59:42] <Jymmm> I made a mini stun gun that fits in an altoids tin
[08:00:01] <XXCoder> using camera flash?
[08:00:12] <Jymmm> fly swatter
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[08:01:15] <XXCoder> wish theres good cheapo plane radar controlled
[08:01:23] <XXCoder> so many helicopers and I dont care about those
[08:01:37] <Jymmm> I need to get a cheap usb webcam and see if I can gran serial from it
[08:01:46] <XXCoder> aliexpress
[08:01:50] <XXCoder> probabkly couple bucks
[08:02:03] <Jymmm> nope, expensive there too
[08:02:47] <XXCoder> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/USB-PC-Webcams-Web-Camera-6-LED-Night-Vision-MSN-ICQ-AIM-Skype-Net-Meeting-Fast/32328849042.html
[08:02:53] <XXCoder> locally shipped even
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[08:03:09] <Jymmm> thats not serial
[08:03:19] <Jymmm> the usb webcams I can get super cheap
[08:03:33] <XXCoder> oh
[08:03:40] <Jymmm> TTL
[08:03:44] <XXCoder> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Usb-ttl-serial-port-board-electric-ptc06-serial-webcam-signal-board-232-webcam/1658568981.html
[08:03:54] <XXCoder> usn and serial
[08:04:09] <Jymmm> no camera =)
[08:04:22] <Jymmm> and $11 shipping
[08:04:23] <XXCoder> doh thought that was videp
[08:04:42] <XXCoder> something like http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ptc08-serial-webcam-serial-webcam-module-full-rs232-ttl-electric/1751044465.html ?
[08:04:48] <Jymmm> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x-PTC06-Serial-Camera-Module-TTL-URAT-CMOS-1-4-inch-DC3-3V-5V-/221698185509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339e3dd925
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[08:05:57] <XXCoder> cheapest if youre willing to wire yourself http://www.aliexpress.com/item/FREE-SHIPPING-Ov7670-module-fpga-webcam-module-serial-cmos-sensor-development-board/1247066964.html
[08:06:58] <Jymmm> http://www.frys.com/product/6287430?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
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[08:09:22] <XXCoder> 65 bucks projector lol
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[08:09:58] <Jymmm> GREAT PRICE for this trackball (It's what I'm using) http://www.frys.com/product/5851903?site=sa:adpages%20page:P117_SUN%20date:053115
[08:10:16] <XXCoder> ugggh never could like trackball
[08:10:27] <XXCoder> I know its better and all but yeah
[08:10:49] <XXCoder> funny thing is that it could be used as very high resolution positional sensor
[08:10:54] <XXCoder> I bet anyway with some hacking
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[08:10:57] <Jymmm> It's not bad, but I liked my older ones better
[08:11:09] <XXCoder> I love my logtech farkfield
[08:11:12] <XXCoder> darkfield
[08:11:23] <Jymmm> this is optical, but my mechanical ones were water on glass smooth
[08:11:32] <XXCoder> nice
[08:11:40] <XXCoder> very sensive encoders
[08:11:52] <Jymmm> Oh hmmm, maybe I can convert it to USB
[08:12:11] <XXCoder> ps3 to usb is everywhere
[08:12:23] <XXCoder> and some pcs still has ps3
[08:12:26] <Jymmm> Ha, try SERIAL/PS2
[08:12:33] <XXCoder> lol
[08:13:20] <Jymmm> But I'm not sure how to get all four butotns programmed, and there is no scrollwheel being the biggest issue
[08:13:35] <XXCoder> oh yeah scroll everywhere nowdays
[08:13:44] <XXCoder> I got idea for ya
[08:13:51] <XXCoder> ball for middle button
[08:14:00] <XXCoder> 2 axis as well as clickable as before
[08:14:26] <Jymmm> No, no, it has four buttons... I have them programed as follows:
[08:14:36] <Jymmm> BL left click
[08:14:39] <XXCoder> I know, just new idea
[08:14:43] <Jymmm> BR right cllick
[08:14:48] <Jymmm> TL copy
[08:14:53] <Jymmm> TR paste
[08:15:07] <Jymmm> chord top = cut
[08:15:18] <Jymmm> chord bottom = back (in browser)
[08:15:37] <XXCoder> my mouse has (besides usuals) button to lock or unlock scroll, 2 side buttons, side bottom button
[08:15:48] <XXCoder> I love scroll wheel lock/unlock
[08:16:01] <XXCoder> it switches between "clicky" (usual) and free spinning
[08:16:30] <Jymmm> this has an annoying speaker feedback thingy, I should unsloder it
[08:16:34] <Jymmm> unsolder
[08:17:30] <Jymmm> I made a big deal about the design with the engineers at Kensigton, and they just offered to let me try this out.... their only solution.
[08:17:39] <XXCoder> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Big-Discount-Cheap-50-X-RJ45-Pack-RJ-45-CAT5-Modular-Plug-Network-Connector-Networking-Adapter/234552_1316846235.html
[08:17:43] <Jymmm> the SW sucks
[08:17:45] <XXCoder> 50 for 3 bucks
[08:17:54] <XXCoder> thats 25 cables for 3 bucks
[08:18:15] <Jymmm> crap connectors
[08:18:37] <XXCoder> sure but most cases good enough
[08:18:47] <Jymmm> fuck no
[08:19:04] <XXCoder> so whats issue?
[08:19:40] <Jymmm> lack of guide tracks that I could see
[08:19:41] <XXCoder> falls apart? not conductive enough?
[08:19:51] <XXCoder> I see it
[08:20:01] <XXCoder> larger pic bottom
[08:20:45] <Jymmm> no no they need to extend out way before then
[08:21:13] <Jymmm> mor elike this http://s3.showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/EZ-RJ45-Cat5e-Feed-Through-Modular-Plug-1.JPG
[08:21:15] <XXCoder> yeah but then store is quite a bit more money
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[08:21:31] <Jymmm> My time is more than that
[08:21:54] <XXCoder> true
[08:22:01] <XXCoder> I wouldnt buy that professionally
[08:23:40] <Jymmm> I'm a cheap bastard, but not when it comes to things that count.
[08:24:16] <Jymmm> spend a little more, save yourself some grief
[08:24:41] <XXCoder> what the heck http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tirol-12V-Digital-Battery-Alternator-Tester-with-6-LED-Lights-Display-Car-Vehicle-Battery-Diagnostic-Tool/234552_1580261189.html
[08:24:45] <Jymmm> my sanity is worth far more than the headaches of saving $5
[08:25:17] <XXCoder> true
[08:25:25] <XXCoder> wonder if that devices worth it lol
[08:25:36] <Jymmm> no
[08:25:43] <Jymmm> bunch of leds and resistors
[08:26:55] <Jymmm> do you want a volt meter?
[08:27:04] <XXCoder> not really
[08:27:17] <XXCoder> just wondered because though alt and battery tester was usually expensive
[08:27:19] <Jymmm> fuck you , yes you do!
[08:27:22] <XXCoder> *tought
[08:27:47] <Jymmm> https://www.fasttech.com/product/1204900
[08:28:48] <XXCoder> stalker heaven jeez http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mini-Portable-Car-GPS-Tracker-Vehicle-Tracking-Monitor-System-GSM-Alarm-Micro-SD-Card-Slot-Anti/234552_1577722841.html
[08:28:55] <Jymmm> https://www.fasttech.com/product/1222900
[08:29:00] <XXCoder> though if cars stolen it'd be great
[08:30:06] <Jymmm> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hot-Mini-Vehicle-Bike-Motorcycle-GPS-GSM-GPRS-Real-Time-Tracker-Monitor-Tracking-/111572220408?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19fa38f9f8
[08:30:51] <XXCoder> gsm sim needed, wonder how much it would cost monthly
[08:31:03] <Jymmm> $3
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[08:31:18] <XXCoder> interesting
[08:31:26] <Jymmm> http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/pay-as-you-go
[08:31:32] <XXCoder> probably worth it when cars newish and very stealable
[08:31:52] <XXCoder> my van sure arenmt
[08:32:00] <XXCoder> its starting to blue smoke and sometimes gray
[08:32:09] <Jymmm> stalk your gf/wife/bf/husband/etc
[08:32:37] <XXCoder> to stalker $3 probably almost free
[08:33:09] <Jymmm> track your kids
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[08:33:33] <XXCoder> honestly I wouldnt do that either but then I dont have kids
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[08:51:45] <XXCoder> http://www.captionsforyoutube.com/blog/posts/13-did-you-know?-80-percent-of-people-who-use-closed-captions-have-no-hearing-impairment
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[08:56:09] <Jymmm> Huh, I can't hear you?
[08:56:21] <XXCoder> :P
[08:56:22] <Jymmm> Yeah, it's called a foregin film!
[08:56:30] <XXCoder> actually
[08:56:32] <XXCoder> no
[08:56:42] <XXCoder> even people who can hear sometimes want captions
[08:56:51] <Jymmm> lies
[08:56:52] <XXCoder> like it said, 80% of caption users hear just fine
[08:57:01] <Jymmm> What?
[08:57:06] <Jymmm> did yu say something?
[08:57:15] <XXCoder> nope
[08:57:18] <XXCoder> I typed something
[08:57:35] <XXCoder> im not one of your voices ;)
[08:58:46] <Jymmm> GET OUT OF MY HEAD!
[08:59:00] <XXCoder> lol
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[09:51:25] <MrSunshine> i wonder how deep of a cut i could take with a 3mm ballnose endmill in wood .. at a CD of 0.3mm
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[09:51:35] <MrSunshine> without breaking the bastard =)
[09:52:00] <XXCoder> ball em itself? good question
[09:52:59] <MrSunshine> or maybe cut depth is the wrong word ... side movement of 0.3mm per pass =)
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[11:27:21] <anarchos> hello!
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[11:29:37] <anarchos> Has anyone used the Mesa 7i76's spindle control output before?
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[11:34:42] <jthornton> do you have a question about that subject?
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[11:37:55] <anarchos> I did, but I answered my question by actually reading the manual...funny how that works. :P
[11:38:26] <anarchos> sort of, i still have question about how it will interface with my specific machine, but i think i can find that info online :D
[11:39:55] <jthornton> yes often the manual is the fastest source of info
[11:43:05] <anarchos> I am a little confused, I think the manual is saying 5v-15 v range on spindle- and spindle+...i'm pretty sure my spindle control DC board (X2 mini mill..) requires 0-10v
[11:43:30] <anarchos> so the question is how to make that work...:P
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[11:44:50] <cpresser> anarchos: generate -5V, then use that -5V as Ground for spindle-, and the 0-10V out of the mesa-card for spindle+
[11:45:39] <jthornton> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/39-pncconf/27052-5i257i76-spindle-and-encoder-setup
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[11:46:38] <cpresser> anarchos: or just read page12 in the manual, ist even easiert
[11:46:42] <jthornton> you get a bunch of hits with this 7i76 spindle site:linuxcnc.org in google
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[11:48:06] <anarchos> cpresser, yeah I was reading that, but i took it to mean 5 to 15v or -5 to +5v, with SPINDLEOUT being the actual output voltage
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[11:50:19] <cpresser> anarchos: the range is SPINDLE- .. SPINDLE+. so just set those two pins according to your spindle-controller-input
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[11:52:10] <anarchos> i see...but does the manual not say that spindle- has to be 5v or more?
[11:52:26] <anarchos> maybe i misread, let me look again
[11:53:53] <anarchos> ahh, the voltage between spindle - and + has to be a difference of 5-15v...not 5-15v itself
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[12:46:54] <Rab> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63FTmUu8jnM
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[13:06:12] <_methods> heavy metal lamb poisoning
[13:07:18] <_methods> hahah
[13:07:21] <_methods> best comment ever
[13:07:28] <_methods> Hipster Faggot you destroyed that lamb, you are a fucking idiot.
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[13:39:59] <_methods> wow intel is buying altera
[13:40:10] <_methods> lots of big moves going down
[13:40:16] <CaptHindsight> Avago just bought Broadcon
[13:40:23] <_methods> yeah that's what i mean
[13:40:41] <_methods> the avago/broadcom and now intel/altera
[13:41:07] <_methods> wonder what the angle is
[13:41:16] <CaptHindsight> companies with money buying other co's with higher earning ratios but less capital
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[13:41:39] <CaptHindsight> let me find the link to the analysis......
[13:42:58] <CaptHindsight> http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/05/29/avagos-broadcom-deal-is-just-the-beginning-analyst-says/
[13:43:07] <_methods> yeah i read that one
[13:43:07] <CaptHindsight> http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/05/31/why-is-avago-technologies-ltd-paying-37-billion-fo.aspx
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[13:44:54] <archivist> x86 and fpga on a chip, a sensible sbc linuxcnc implementation
[13:45:15] <CaptHindsight> AMD has some Altera integrated
[13:45:25] <CaptHindsight> they should have used Xilinx
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[13:46:29] <CaptHindsight> I never cared much for Altera
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[13:49:14] <CaptHindsight> _methods: it looks like consolidation to increase earnings since the many markets like x86 have flattened
[13:52:46] <_methods> interesting movements in the chip fab arena lately
[13:52:58] <_methods> just has me curious as to what the game is
[13:53:11] <_methods> besides world domination lol
[13:53:21] <CaptHindsight> AMD should have purchased nVidia 10 years ago
[13:54:00] <_methods> yeah that didn't work out so well
[13:54:14] <archivist> they chose to buy the other graphics company
[13:54:23] <_methods> i think nvidia got pissed about amd's work cycle
[13:55:02] <_methods> i remember they had issues getting driver updates out on time because of amd
[13:55:11] <CaptHindsight> IMHO they have done a pretty good job of removing the income from the middle class and are now trying to figure out how to keep earnings up, they are crazy is all, they don't see the big picture
[13:55:21] <_methods> so that makes them a perfect candidate for those other clown ATI lol
[13:55:47] <CaptHindsight> you destroy your customer base and then wonder how to keep sales up
[13:56:46] <CaptHindsight> Apple has done a good job of getting a lot of disposable income from the upper middle class
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[13:56:58] <CaptHindsight> but that well is also running dry
[13:57:46] <CaptHindsight> Walmart had a flood of leftover inventory from the last xmas season
[13:58:09] <_methods> yeah i honestly don't got to brick and mortar stores for anything anymore except groceries
[13:58:12] <anarchos> mesa should build a x86 SBC :P
[13:58:18] <_methods> and amazon i sputting a dent in my trips there too
[13:58:36] <_methods> i buy lots of spices and dry good stuff from amazon now
[13:58:54] <_methods> deodorant, razors
[13:59:09] <CaptHindsight> so even Walmart shoppers can't afford as much Walmart anymore
[13:59:15] <_methods> i pretty much just go to the grocery store for meat/vegetables
[13:59:33] <_methods> i haven't been in a walmart in about 10 years
[14:00:58] <roycroft> walmart's business model has always been to come into a community, drive all the competition out of business, then jack up the prices
[14:01:26] <_methods> well i won't support them, instead i'll support the giant invisible demon that is amazon
[14:01:40] <_methods> probably even worse
[14:01:48] <_methods> but i don't have to leave my house
[14:01:53] <roycroft> their prices, even after being jacked up, still seem comparatively low until you realize that they only sell junk
[14:02:17] <roycroft> you can buy a frying pan from walmart for $10 that seems like a bargain except you have to replace it in a year
[14:02:29] <roycroft> whereas a $40 fry pan from elsewhere will last a decade
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[14:06:16] <CaptHindsight> AMD management could have been replaced by a Magic 8-ball a few years ago and it couldn't have done any worse
[14:07:17] <CaptHindsight> I would not be surprised if it come out at some later date that Intel was somehow pulling the strings at AMD's board
[14:08:35] <_methods> well i've heard rumors that intel props amd up
[14:08:56] <_methods> without them in the market there will be no "choice" and that upsets people even more than a titan
[14:09:35] <_methods> as long as they "feel" like they have an alternative they will just keep on sheeping
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[14:17:11] <CaptHindsight> yes, have to avoid being a monopoly
[14:17:22] <CaptHindsight> or perceived as one
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[14:22:19] <ssi> blargh
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[14:28:12] <_methods> even though they are basically a govt mandated monopoly like power
[14:28:26] <_methods> gotta have some oversight for computing power
[14:28:44] <_methods> don't want encryption cracking speeds outpacing your own anywhere
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[14:45:13] <ssi> banks are the worst
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[15:13:18] <Tensaiteki> Greetings, all.
[15:13:35] <Tensaiteki> anyone here ever worked with servo hydrailuc valves?
[15:19:23] <_methods> i've worked on machines with them
[15:19:31] <_methods> but i've never built a machine with them
[15:20:48] <archivist> skunkworks, had the chance but replaced them iirc
[15:21:09] <skunkworks> yes... went dc brushed..
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[15:29:30] <Tensaiteki> I'm converting a CNC press-brake to LinuxCNC and I'm not sure if my Mesa card will drive them or if I need some sort of amplifier
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[15:31:38] <Tensaiteki> I know the servo valves take +10V/-10V and the proportional valves take 0V-10V but I dont know how much current the analog outs on a 7i77 can deliver.
[15:33:22] <cpresser> Tensaiteki: i think its in the manual. my guess would be less then a mA.
[15:34:12] <cpresser> Tensaiteki: it says 'miniumum load 2k'.
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[15:38:13] <cpresser> Tensaiteki: you might want to add a power-opamp. TIs opa569 comes to mind
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[15:50:35] <Jymmm> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Martzis-HID-Interface-USB-Card-USB-Board-PC-Via-BUS-For-Linux-EMC-Mach-3-/161170762161
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[15:51:59] <Jymmm> "When y'all add them there usb doohickeys?"
[15:55:03] <Jymmm> "...and it be much purrrtier then one of them mesa... mensa... boards"
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[15:55:50] <pcw_home> Linuxcnc has supported USB I/O for a long time
[15:56:50] <Jymmm> Well, HID, only cause its linux as passthru, but not directly.
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[16:02:09] <cradek> > Encoder inputs can also be used as pulse counters. In 1X mode A channel counts either rising or falling edges if B channel is connected permanetly to 5V or ground. In 2X mode card counts both rising and falling edges if the signal is connected to both A and B channel.
[16:02:47] <cradek> does anyone else read this as "we totally don't get quadrature. you can choose wrong implementation #1 or wrong implementation #2."
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[16:04:17] <cradek> wow is that an unusual choice for cable
[16:04:30] <cradek> where did they even find that cable?
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[16:07:03] <Jymmm> "recognizes it as two joystick devices both having 32 buttons and 4 axes. "
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[16:10:07] <Jymmm> I'll be damn... http://www.vdwalle.com/Norte/How%20we%20handled%20the%20Serial%20and%20USB%20Port.htm
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[16:18:15] <Jymmm> Oh, it's a PIC... http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71oLY0WbBTL._SL1400_.jpg
[16:19:38] <Jymmm> LS165A PARALLEL-LOAD 8-BIT SHIFT REGISTER
[16:22:46] <cradek> that's a good way to read a whole bunch of inputs
[16:23:03] <cradek> and it's a socketed pic so you can fix the quadrature code :-)
[16:23:23] <Jymmm> looks soldered on some photos
[16:23:32] <Jymmm> socketed on others
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[16:35:13] <pcw_home> Weird having a A-A cable
[16:36:10] <Jymmm> pcw_home: I know. I have a device coming today that uses A-A too. I'm not sure of the wiring yet
[16:37:26] <Jymmm> As far as HID I/O, I like this (They used to have a PS/2 version as well) https://www.ultimarc.com/ipac1.html
[16:43:23] <Jymmm> good for DOS applications
[16:45:30] <Jymmm> I can see that for "special needs" type applications.
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[17:15:46] <Jymmm> pcw_home: http://www.amazon.com/USB-2-0-Cable-Male-Beige/dp/B000BSJFFC/
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[17:20:43] <Jymmm> pcw_home: pinout is straight thru http://www.showmecables.com/product/USB-2-A-Male-A-Male-Cable-3-FT.aspx
[17:21:12] <Jymmm> pcw_home: http://www.showmecables.com/images/catalog/product/SpecSheets/USB-2-A-Male-A-Male-Cable-Specs.pdf
[17:21:38] <pcw_home> sure all USB cable are straight through (well maybe USB3 is an exception, not sure)
[17:21:59] <Jymmm> pcw_home: But, if one device is supplying power....
[17:23:24] <cpresser> afaik you are not allowed to call them USB cable. at least using the usb-logo for A-A cables is forbidden by the USB-IF
[17:23:45] <Jymmm> cpresser: It's a legal cable AA
[17:24:10] <Jymmm> in the specs, just rare
[17:24:11] <pcw_home> I wonder...
[17:25:13] <pcw_home> Before USB OTG Im pretty sure it was contrary to the intended usage
[17:25:16] <cpresser> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Cable_plugs_.28USB_1.x.2F2.0.29
[17:25:48] <cpresser> it says 'Non-standard'
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[17:26:03] <Jymmm> However, there do exist compliant A-to-A cables with a circuit in the middle
[17:26:23] <Jymmm> which I suspect is just a hub
[17:26:45] <pcw_home> probably the use of A on the HID device was just a mistake
[17:26:48] <cpresser> well, a hub has only one upstream port
[17:26:54] <Jymmm> and it says non-standard, not "NO"
[17:27:19] <Jymmm> B-B = NO
[17:27:49] <pcw_home> Still a mistake
[17:28:20] <Jymmm> I think what some are doing is using it as a way to keep ppl from mucking with the port, which I'll be doing as soon as the mailman arrives =)
[17:29:13] <Jymmm> But I'm not sure about the PWR line (in general)
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[17:32:01] <pcw_home> Thats the problem, make an A-A cable and you may damage a PC USB port should someone connect it between PCs
[17:32:03] <pcw_home> ( Type A ports dont expect to sink power )
[17:33:21] <Jymmm> pcw_home: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Device_Firmware_Upgrade
[17:33:38] <Jymmm> pcw_home: I'm suspecting thats the "non-standard" applicaiton
[17:35:04] <pcw_home> "The standard connectors were deliberately intended to enforce the directed topology of a USB network: type A connectors on host devices that supply power and type B connectors on target devices that draw power. This is intended to prevent users from accidentally connecting two USB power supplies to each other, which could lead to short circuits and dangerously high currents, circuit...
[17:35:05] <pcw_home> ...failures, or even fire. USB does not support cyclic networks and the standard connectors from incompatible USB devices are themselves incompatible.[4} "
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[17:35:35] <pcw_home> so, a mistake...
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[17:43:43] <Jymmm> It's bugging me now. I wish the specs SPECIFICALLY mentioned non-standard specifics
[17:44:22] <Jymmm> I'n my case, it's firmware updating, but the wiki has limited info on that
[17:49:32] <Jymmm> pcw_home: so what is the "mistake" you mentioend?
[17:51:08] <pcw_home> Using a "A" connector on a Device
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[17:51:38] <pcw_home> (or Target)
[17:52:29] <Jymmm> Ok, but that graph says "non standard" not "no". I'd like to know the diff between the two
[17:54:51] <pcw_home> In the original spec/connectors A was the host connector and B was the target and A-A was a bad idea for the reasons cited above
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[17:55:18] <Jymmm> Yes, for STANDARD usage, but whats NON-STANDARD usage?
[17:55:22] <SpeedEvil> Then shit like OTG happened
[17:56:16] <Jymmm> Right out of the USB 2.0 Specs... "A USB transceiver is recommended, but not required, to withstand a continuous short of D+ and/or D- to VBUS for a minimum of 24 hours without degradation."
[17:56:30] <Jymmm> *shrug*
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[18:09:47] <Jymmm> Ok, specs say A-A violate the topology, but no speicific mention of "standard" or "non-standard" usage, assuming the former.
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[18:12:24] * Jymmm kicks cpresser in the shins for making me read 56MB of specs!
[18:13:07] <_methods> the usb specs are so fun to read though
[18:13:18] * cpresser evades
[18:13:20] * _methods doubts whether Jymmm is really a nerd
[18:13:55] <Jymmm> _methods: I read RFC's
[18:14:13] <_methods> nerd cred stabilized
[18:14:20] <SpeedEvil> RFCs are easy-to-read
[18:14:27] <SpeedEvil> Try the wifi standard.
[18:14:59] <SpeedEvil> It seems that its sole purpose is to sell books about it, not actually expllain stuff usefully.
[18:15:17] <Jymmm> Nice thing about standards is that there are so many
[18:15:25] <SpeedEvil> Lots of specific bit lists and that sort of stuff, but no actual explanation of how features work that are at all accessible.
[18:16:05] <_methods> well it seems to me that the usb standard guys have their shit together better than most
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[18:24:13] <Jymmm> USB String descriptors MUST support UTF-16LE encoding
[18:24:28] <Jymmm> eh, good to know I guess.
[18:24:37] <Jymmm> but... ASCII RULES!!! =)
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[18:28:13] <cpresser> utf8 to the rescue :)
[18:29:31] <Jymmm> screw that
[18:30:24] <cpresser> easy to say if you native language does not require umlauts or other special chars
[18:31:02] <Jymmm> Here's unicode to me.... 🐎 🐴 🐏 🐑 🐐 🐓 🐔 🐤 🐣 🐥
[18:31:19] <Jymmm> umlots is supported under ASCII (sorta)
[18:31:26] <Jymmm> ext char set iirc
[18:31:44] <cradek> are you calling Jymmm naïve?
[18:32:42] <cpresser> nope. i am just saying that utf8 has a real usecase
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[18:33:55] <cradek> even English would be nicer if we could coördinate our character sets
[18:34:07] <Jymmm> Unicode is a Bad Thing™, but just my 2¢. Now, lets have some π
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[18:34:21] <cpresser> here you are: 3.14
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[18:34:48] <Jymmm> But how many of you saw the chicken above?
[18:34:55] * cpresser is to lazy to discuss the encoding issue. done that. been there.
[18:35:12] <cpresser> Jymmm: i would have seen it, but my Font does not support it
[18:35:29] <Jymmm> cpresser: os?
[18:35:39] <Jymmm> and version?
[18:35:46] <_methods> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/222459303/sensorwake-wake-up-happy-with-the-smell-based-alar
[18:35:52] <_methods> fart smell alarm clock
[18:36:13] <cpresser> Jymmm: win7, but irc-client running on a linux box. connected via ssh
[18:36:22] <Jymmm> cpresser: ah
[18:36:43] <Jymmm> cpresser: See, ASCII RULES your ssh world ;)
[18:36:44] <cpresser> this setup works fine, even for japanese script :)
[18:37:26] <Jymmm> cpresser: What does this look like to you: 2¢
[18:37:47] <cpresser> Jymmm: "2c", with a dash through the c
[18:38:07] <Jymmm> ok, that's correct. but I didn't think it was ASCII
[18:38:20] <Jymmm> "cent symbol"
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[18:39:12] <ssi> Jymmm: what was the one you used above?
[18:39:15] <ssi> it didn't render for me either
[18:39:17] <cpresser> こんばんわ
[18:39:24] <Jymmm> I'll be damnd 189
[18:39:30] <cradek> you might be confusing iso8859 with ASCII
[18:39:45] <ssi> my irc setup seems to handle basic plane stuff ok, but it doesn't do well with supplimental plane
[18:39:55] <ssi> in my experience that tends to indicate that somewhere there's a conversion to UTF16
[18:39:58] <Jymmm> ASCII 189 = cent symbol
[18:40:29] <cradek> no, ASCII is 7 bits
[18:40:39] <Jymmm> extended char
[18:40:41] <cradek> there is no such thing as ASCII 189
[18:40:45] <ssi> basic multilingual plane chars (up to and including U+FFFF) are represented with a single 2-byte character in UTF16
[18:40:46] <Jymmm> 189
[18:40:56] <ssi> but SMP chars (U+10000 and up) require a surrogate pair, 32 bits
[18:41:31] <ssi> and cradek is right
[18:41:38] <cradek> there are lots of encodings that use 8 bits, the lower half being ASCII, but they are absolutely not ASCII
[18:41:39] <ssi> 189 can be anything depending on the codepage
[18:42:23] <Jymmm> ssi: Which? the cent symbol or the animals?
[18:42:24] <cradek> there are 16 such cases of iso8859
[18:42:32] <cradek> (16!)
[18:42:33] <ssi> fwiw, 189 isn't ¢ in ISO-8859-1
[18:42:46] <Jymmm> http://www.theasciicode.com.ar/extended-ascii-code/cent-symbol-ascii-code-189.html
[18:42:47] <ssi> 189 in 8859-1 is ½
[18:42:57] <ssi> Jymmm: I got the cent symbol, I didn't get teh animals
[18:43:07] <ssi> the animals are probably emojis, which are all in the SMP
[18:43:11] <ssi> ie above U+10000
[18:43:22] <ssi> that's where you get into trouble with anything that's not pure UTF8 end to end
[18:43:27] <Jymmm> http://getemoji.com/
[18:44:02] <ssi> we found a bizarre bug in Xalan a couple years ago which leaked memory anywhere there was a surrogate pair for a SMP character
[18:44:02] <cradek> Jymmm: that might be describing an encoding from ibm/ms dos. it's not ASCII.
[18:44:15] <ssi> it would grow the string and duplicate the unicode char
[18:44:21] <ssi> my test string had the "pile of poo" char in it
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[18:44:26] <ssi> and every time we'd run, there'd be more piles of poo
[18:44:30] <ssi> it was very symbolic :D
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[18:46:52] <cpresser> the codepoint 189 is the ¢ in the windows-codepage-850
[18:47:14] <cradek> that explains it
[18:47:37] <cradek> that doesn't belong on the internet :-P
[18:48:20] <ssi> agreed :D
[18:48:33] <cpresser> microsoft outlook used that to compose emails for a long time (at least in germany)
[18:48:34] <ssi> at least somewhere it's getting translated to unicode so it makes it over here properly :P
[18:48:59] <cradek> I wonder what's most normal today in non-English irc channels
[18:49:10] <ssi> cause if he was actually sending 189, that'd be U+00BD
[18:49:18] <ssi> which is the same as 8859-1 0xBD
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[18:49:26] <ssi> which is ½
[18:49:41] <cradek> probably it's whatever the "normal" irc client does, whatever that would be
[18:49:44] <cpresser> depends, most channels are iso8859-x . most japanese speaking channels are shift-jis
[18:49:51] <cpresser> cant tell about other languages
[18:50:00] <ssi> cent sign is U+00A2
[18:50:09] <ssi> 0xA2 in 8859-1
[18:50:23] <ssi> unicode really does fix all this codepage horseshit
[18:50:26] <ssi> we should be grateful for it :P
[18:50:34] <cpresser> ssi: ack. +1
[18:50:39] <cradek> yep
[18:51:25] <Jymmm> http://www.seasip.info/VintagePC/Images/mda9.png
[18:51:52] <Jymmm> no cent symbol (CP437)
[18:51:55] <ssi> I dunno what codepage that is, I just remember it was always called the "ANSI Drawing chars" codepage
[18:52:15] <Jymmm> ssi: look above =)
[18:52:17] <ssi> codepage 437
[18:52:18] <ssi> yeah
[18:52:22] <Jymmm> =)
[18:52:33] <Jymmm> Mercules monochrome =)
[18:52:53] <ssi> the bad old days :P
[18:53:06] <Jymmm> cpresser: See, umlots
[18:53:16] <ssi> I once wrote a serial terminal in VHDL and I had to implement my own VGA and font
[18:53:19] <ssi> that was fun :P
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[19:08:32] <JT-Shop> I'm thinking of getting an elliptical for those days I don't have time to ride the mountain bike... anyone have any tips
[19:08:45] <JT-Shop> I'm looking at a couple of proform models
[19:12:54] <ssi> just cnc up your own :D
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[19:18:44] <JT-Shop> I have too many projects now lol
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[19:31:56] <_methods> https://reverse.put.as/2015/05/29/the-empire-strikes-back-apple-how-your-mac-firmware-security-is-completely-broken/
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[19:33:14] <_methods> hehe
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[19:35:36] <_methods> interesting looks like google+ is finally going to the google graveyard
[19:35:56] <_methods> no more google+ link on my username anymore
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[19:54:18] <Jymmm> _methods: graveyard? how so?
[19:54:40] <_methods> the google graveyard man
[19:54:58] <_methods> they got rid of the link on gmail main page
[19:54:58] <Jymmm> _methods: I haven't seen an EOL notice
[19:55:04] <_methods> lol
[19:55:08] <_methods> it's coming
[19:55:28] <_methods> they spun photos off from google+
[19:55:39] <_methods> you don't have to mess with that google+ crap now
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[19:55:54] <_methods> http://www.wordstream.com/articles/retired-google-projects
[19:56:07] <Jymmm> _methods: I got an EOL notice "goodbye to Orkut"
[19:56:15] <_methods> i'm still kinda bitter about google reader if you can't tell
[19:57:31] <Jymmm> I'd be so fucked if google bookmarks goes away
[19:57:48] <_methods> don't worry they'll cancel it too
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[19:58:07] <_methods> theyll kill gmail
[19:58:08] <Jymmm> Well, I'll just make sure to back that shit up
[19:58:23] <_methods> heheh
[19:58:34] <Jymmm> you know you can do that, right?
[19:58:54] <Jymmm> it takes a few hours
[19:59:11] <_methods> thunderbird
[19:59:39] <Jymmm> Noooo, *ALL* of your google content... email, photos, files, voice, voicemails, etc
[20:00:10] <Jymmm> contacts, calendars,
[20:00:18] <_methods> i only use gmail
[20:00:27] <Jymmm> ANy/EVERYTHING that google stores for you
[20:00:30] <_methods> and i need to get off that
[20:00:34] <SpeedEvil> If you do not back it up, google can take it away at whim.
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[20:00:41] <SpeedEvil> If your account gets nuked for some reason.
[20:00:43] <_methods> they can have it all
[20:00:48] <SpeedEvil> And you may not be able to get it back
[20:01:00] <SpeedEvil> Or if someone gets into your account, and nukes it.
[20:01:21] <XXCoder> they wont kill gmail
[20:01:24] <XXCoder> its very big
[20:01:34] <XXCoder> its like shooting one of balls
[20:01:38] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: yet
[20:01:41] <_methods> that was sarcasm............
[20:01:45] <Jymmm> _methods: https://www.google.com/settings/takeout
[20:01:54] <XXCoder> lol
[20:03:14] <Jymmm> "Please note that mail archives may take a long time (hours or possibly days) to create."
[20:03:48] <_methods> i bet
[20:04:07] <_methods> my boss had 60,000 unread emails
[20:04:16] <Jymmm> But, I think it's a GREAT service offering, and NOT in a propritary format either.
[20:04:39] <Tom_shop> _methods maybe you should stop emailing him for a raise
[20:04:39] <_methods> i'm just still butthurt over google reader
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[20:05:16] <_methods> Tom_itx: hehe
[20:05:16] <Jymmm> _methods: What was it?
[20:05:23] <_methods> rss feed reader
[20:05:30] <Jymmm> ah
[20:05:37] <_methods> i use tiny tiny rss now
[20:06:37] <_methods> so i can find stuff like this lol
[20:06:39] <_methods> http://www.neatorama.com/2015/06/01/Unique-And-Creative-Recycling-Projects/
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[20:06:57] <_methods> http://www.goodshomedesign.com/12-creative-and-highly-unique-recycling-projects/
[20:07:14] <Jymmm> _methods: Hey, I'm still back on the ROM hacking =)
[20:07:32] <Jymmm> _methods: I need one of those spring load piggyback clips =)
[20:07:36] <_methods> heheh
[20:07:37] <Jymmm> loaded*
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[20:07:59] <_methods> i like the cable spool computer table
[20:08:12] <_methods> takes me back to my single days heheh
[20:08:33] <_methods> cable spool coffee tables
[20:08:39] <_methods> tv stand
[20:08:42] <_methods> night stand hehe
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[20:33:50] <Jymmm> This chinese quality shit has gotta stop... They are making product plastic housing so dman tight, it's completely seamless and I need more/better no-mar ry tools to get into it!
[20:34:27] <Jymmm> pry*
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[20:39:36] <lffurrywo> bigger hammer.
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[20:45:10] <Jymmm> oh you sneaky bastards!!!!
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[20:45:38] <lffurrywo> and a chisel.
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[20:46:38] <Jymmm> I"ve been prying between the silver and black http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81AnUlAP4QL._SL1500_.jpg
[20:47:42] <Jymmm> you can even see the black and white in the battery comprtment
[20:47:46] <Jymmm> http://www.att.com/support_media/images/Wireless_Support/ZTE/Wireless_Home_Phone_WF720/05/SIM_3.jpg
[20:49:00] <Jymmm> That silver/black it totaly fake.
[20:49:42] <Jymmm> The self adhesive metalized top, is actually a compined with acrylic pop off cover
[20:49:44] <Jymmm> bastards
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[20:53:59] <fogl> hello, is there a .comp module that uses shift right (>>) or shift left (<<) option, to see an example of use of it?
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[20:56:25] <cradek> fogl: what problem are you solving?
[20:57:08] <fogl> i just want to shift a u32 variable: variable >> 8
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[20:57:34] <fogl> and this generates some error and rtai freezes
[20:58:24] <cradek> what's the error?
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[20:59:18] <fogl> i will reproduce it and paste the output, just a moment
[21:01:09] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:02:23] <cradek> also pastebin your code
[21:03:22] <fogl> cradek, http://pastebin.com/N5qL8auk
[21:04:12] <cradek> interesting
[21:05:15] <fogl> tho code is just: temp0 >> 8;
[21:05:28] <cradek> let us see the whole code
[21:05:53] <fogl> ok just a moment
[21:08:07] <fogl> cradek, code: http://pastebin.com/QA88LaDd
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[21:09:11] <cradek> you probably meant temp0 >>= 8;
[21:10:31] <cradek> and the code needs to be inside a function doesn't it? your syntax is all wrong.
[21:10:47] <fogl> yes... i tried temp0 = temp0 << 8; with the same result
[21:10:53] <cradek> look at any other comp
[21:11:07] <cradek> you need a function with your code in it, and you add that to the thread with addf in hal
[21:11:13] <fogl> yes, it is inside... this is just a snippet
[21:11:21] <cradek> PLEASE SHOW THE WHOLE CODE
[21:11:41] <cradek> sorry, but you are probably doing something wrong and it's hard to guess what it is when you won't show your work
[21:12:02] <fogl> ok, just a moment...
[21:12:39] <fogl> btw, the code works fine without this line
[21:18:11] <fogl> cradek, code: http://pastebin.com/EnGygB5y
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[21:18:13] <cradek> what halcompile command line are you using?
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[21:18:35] <cradek> you have option extra_cleanup, but no matching function
[21:18:41] <cradek> you also have function write, but no matching function
[21:18:46] <fogl> sudo comp --install mycomp.comp
[21:20:06] <cradek> cradek@tetrode:/tmp$ comp --preprocess mycomp.comp
[21:20:07] <cradek> mycomp.comp:0: License not specified
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[21:20:12] <cradek> are you sure this is the exact code?
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[21:20:52] <fogl> no... the code is larger, but i cut unnecessary part
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[21:21:23] * lffurrywo notes cradek has mentioned "whole code" several times, and concludes fogl doesn't really want help
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[21:21:33] <cradek> bbl
[21:21:36] <zeeshan> haha
[21:21:38] <zeeshan> poor cradek
[21:21:42] <JT-Shop> heh
[21:21:43] <fogl> ok, sorry
[21:22:12] <fogl> i just wanted to save you time...
[21:22:45] <furrywolf> bbl, recycling
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[21:32:39] <fogl> cradek, sorry for my bad, i pasted the whole code and the error onve again: http://pastebin.com/9rYkw2sj
[21:33:25] <fogl> i installed it with sudo comp --install shift.comp
[21:35:57] <fogl> does anybody know for example of .comp that uses shift?
[21:38:14] <cradek> it's not the shift
[21:38:28] <cradek> you can't use your hal pins in EXTRA_SETUP because they are not even allocated yet
[21:39:06] <cradek> only your main function, which you add to a hal thread, can access your pins
[21:39:18] <fogl> oh, i did not know that
[21:39:38] <fogl> so i need to move it write...
[21:40:04] <fogl> will try that, thank you cradek
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[21:40:45] <cradek> when in doubt, use comp --preprocess, and look at the generated C code
[21:41:08] <cradek> welcome
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[21:47:07] <fogl> cradek, i tied and it works with no problem :) thank you and sorry for previous :)
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[22:15:44] <andypugh> I just found out something quite cool about my new old lathe. The dual-graduation feed dials are cleverer than I thought. If you turn the handle 1 turn then the inch scale moves 1 turn, and that is 0.1”. But the mm scale is geared to turn fractionally further, and that shows 2.54mm. Neat.
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[22:17:00] <zeeshan> nice
[22:18:40] <archivist> andypugh, what make is the lathe?
[22:18:48] <andypugh> Holbrook
[22:19:08] <archivist> ah, proper metal
[22:19:23] <andypugh> Yes, it collapsed by 2t engine crane.
[22:20:14] <archivist> my Shaublin has a similar variable speed drive but preceded by a two speed 3 phase motor
[22:20:35] <andypugh> Though it is only 750kg really, it’s a 10x20 lathe, so fairly small. But you could make at least 4 beds from my 9x30 Chinese lathe from the bed. The bed is actually deeper than the whole chinese lathe, including the headstock.
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[22:38:13] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: does Ford do any investment casting or is it mainly large parts that are sand cast?
[22:39:01] <andypugh> I don’t actually know. I don’t have much to do with manufacturing.
[22:41:32] <zeeshan> ford doesn't do anything
[22:41:33] <zeeshan> lol
[22:42:03] <zeeshan> except like sintering of metallic powders for con rods
[22:42:12] <zeeshan> i bet they even outsource that now
[22:42:24] <andypugh> zeeshan: They prefer to buy everything in, but they do make engines themselves.
[22:42:26] <zeeshan> the f150 pumps we were making were sand castings from india + china
[22:42:33] <zeeshan> that were machined in canada
[22:42:39] <zeeshan> i bet its the same for engine blocks, tranny cases
[22:42:39] <zeeshan> etc
[22:42:57] <zeeshan> (machined in canada by a tier 1 supplier)
[22:43:42] <andypugh> The Dagenham plant makes 1 miilion engines a year. Curiously the engines they make are mainly the V6 and V8 for Jaguar and Landrover and a Peugeot-designed engine used by bot Ford and Peugeot.
[22:43:53] <zeeshan> andypugh: do they have a foundry?
[22:43:58] <zeeshan> im talking specifically about castings
[22:44:03] <andypugh> Yes. Wind powered
[22:44:10] <zeeshan> ah
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[22:45:05] <CaptHindsight> the big sand molds are easily created with a 3 axis inkjet using binder
[22:45:47] <CaptHindsight> I was working on a water soluble photopolymer for investment casting to save on the 8-12 hour burn out cycle
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[22:46:45] <CaptHindsight> I saw some pretty big investment castings today >1m in length that i would have figured were sand casted
[22:50:03] <CaptHindsight> http://www.aristo-cast.com/investment-casting.html
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[22:51:09] <CaptHindsight> near Detroit ^^
[22:51:45] <malcom2073> I really wanna get into lost-foam casting
[22:51:50] <SpeedEvil> neat
[22:52:22] <andypugh> Have you heard of the “Lost Lizard” process?
[22:52:40] <malcom2073> Nope
[22:52:47] <CaptHindsight> lost cat casting
[22:52:51] <malcom2073> Heh
[22:52:53] <malcom2073> meow
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[22:53:43] <andypugh> You can burn-out a dead animal just as well as wax, it turns out. But hairy animals don’t invest too well. Who wants a castig of a wet cat?
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[22:54:17] <malcom2073> Lovely
[22:55:59] <CaptHindsight> http://www.petwave.com/~/media/Images/Center/Breed/Cats/Breeds-Based-on-Mutations/Sphynx/Sphynx-Standing.ashx pretty sure they use these
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[23:03:33] <SpeedEvil> andypugh: I wonder - deep freeze it, then sputter on some metal for a topcoat?
[23:03:53] <SpeedEvil> Interesting problem.
[23:04:10] <andypugh> I prefer not to think about it in too much detail, being rather fond of cats.
[23:05:00] <CaptHindsight> urethane pattern of cat
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