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[01:30:20] <Jymmm> http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Leisure/2009/0/0/megapixel2.jpg
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[01:30:39] <XXCoder> foxnews
[01:30:49] <XXCoder> thts actually nice
[01:31:22] <XXCoder> though if other cars too close it would be impossible to get out or in compared to usual door
[01:31:34] <XXCoder> wonder how far out it moves
[01:31:34] <furrywolf> that's pretty ugly.
[01:31:49] <XXCoder> well yeah but effective
[01:32:34] <XXCoder> the front is real ugly though
[01:32:44] <XXCoder> and doors do move out around a foot
[01:32:49] <furrywolf> http://images.gizmag.com/inline/tata-megapixel-8.png possibly one of the ugliest cars made.
[01:32:50] <XXCoder> https://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Leisure/2009/0/0/megapixel1.jpg
[01:33:19] <furrywolf> and too small to be safe
[01:33:22] <Jymmm> http://www.bestcar2buy.com/2012/07/most-fuel-efficient-car-tata-megapixel.html
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[01:33:44] <XXCoder> furrywolf: depends on design
[01:33:53] <XXCoder> furrywolf: eloi is even smaller but very safe
[01:33:55] <furrywolf> and, wide on bottom but narrow on top, so you have crap cargo room despite a wide footprint.
[01:34:16] <XXCoder> s/eloi/elio/
[01:34:39] <furrywolf> there are NO safe small cars in a head-on collision. no matter how much you strengthen the passenger compartment, add crumple zones, etc, the fact still remains that you'll be suddenly reversing direction while the other vehicle barely slows.
[01:35:04] <malcom2073> There ain't no replacement... for (mass) displacement!
[01:35:39] <furrywolf> I saw a crash test between a mid-sized sedan (think it was a corrola) and a smart car... the sedan just kept going on a straight line pretty much intact, still drivable. the smart car went airborn backwards.
[01:36:57] <furrywolf> a miniature car like that vs a regular car is just like a regular car vs a semi truck... you know who's giving the report to the police and who's leaving in the back of an ambulance.
[01:38:59] <Tom_itx> that's fugly
[01:39:06] <furrywolf> yes
[01:39:15] <Jymmm> 235MPG
[01:39:31] <furrywolf> Jymmm: read the fine print. "on battery only". wtf?
[01:39:50] <furrywolf> sure, it gets great milage if you don't run the engine. huh?
[01:40:07] <Tom_itx> doors are too close to the wheelwells to put hinges where they belong
[01:40:36] <XXCoder> furrywolf: thats why I get elio. 84 mpg freeway and no battery cheats
[01:40:46] <furrywolf> it's another car built for short, skinny people with nothing but a bit of groceries.
[01:41:07] <furrywolf> I want a subaru diesel. 65mpg in a full-size all-wheel-drive station wagon with 154hp.
[01:41:59] <Tom_itx> they're not too bad if you don't mine a pop can on wheels
[01:42:28] <furrywolf> or if you're >6ft tall, or like moving things other than people.
[01:42:47] <furrywolf> oh, and you're legally blind, so you don't have to see it.
[01:43:27] <XXCoder> furrywolf: elio is for people only really and small cargo. >6 ft people foot players can fit in elio
[01:43:39] <XXCoder> back seat slightly smaller but still can fit pretty tall peopke
[01:44:17] <furrywolf> I want to swap one of those subaru diesel motors into one of my old subarus... see if I can get over 80mpg. :P
[01:44:50] <furrywolf> if they get 65mpg in a heavy forester, what do they get in a 2100lb smaller wagon?
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[01:45:07] <XXCoder> dunno
[01:45:19] <XXCoder> put it in vw beetle heh
[01:45:34] <furrywolf> eww
[01:47:32] <furrywolf> heh, in local news:
http://lostcoastoutpost.com/media/cache/e0/94/e094bd881d15183373c643f05ae88782.jpg that's what happens when cops drive drunk.
[01:48:52] <furrywolf> I bet this one will get off completely free too. He only knocked over a woman and baby. the last drunk cop we have killed a woman and got off scott free...
[01:49:06] <XXCoder> cops get away with literal murder nowdays
[01:49:37] <Tom_itx> they take alot of crap they shouldn't have to also
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[03:51:57] <Tom_itx> mmm. Can't find module 'hm2_5i24
[03:52:32] <Tom_itx> in /usr/raltime-3.4.9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc
[03:55:50] <Tom_itx> dmesg: hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver ver 0.15
[03:55:55] <Tom_itx> hm2: unloading
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[04:03:25] <furkanyilmaz11> Hi everybody! I finally finished configurations about my kinematic files for my delta robot. Motors working well in joint jog mode.But when I press $ as a hotkey and trying to xyz jog mode. There is a following error.
[04:03:40] <furkanyilmaz11> Joint 0,1,2 following error!
[04:03:59] <XXCoder> if I recall it means it didnt move the way it expected to
[04:04:07] <XXCoder> like a stall or something
[04:04:33] <XXCoder> odd though, all 3
[04:05:38] <furkanyilmaz11> I couldnt understand because joints is working well in joint jog mode
[04:06:16] <furkanyilmaz11> What do you suggest XXCoder? What should I do?
[04:06:29] <XXCoder> unfortunately dont know enough to advice really
[04:06:36] <XXCoder> just try figure what is different
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[04:07:29] <furkanyilmaz11> Ok I can share my files but it doesnt matter right?
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[04:08:05] <XXCoder> dont think it does but then could be wrong
[04:09:14] <furkanyilmaz11> XXCoder ok than I will wait and search more
[04:09:28] <XXCoder> yeah maybe someone will help you soon
[04:09:39] <furkanyilmaz11> I hope :)
[04:11:53] <XXCoder> best bet though is try find whats different
[04:13:12] <furkanyilmaz11> What should I compare with, to understand different things?
[04:13:36] <XXCoder> not sure its general guideline of troubleshooting really
[04:15:16] <furkanyilmaz11> Yes, I know but there are no configuration working to compare and understand whats different :) So nothing changed until last working mode, because there no working version yet :)
[04:15:44] <furkanyilmaz11> Maybe I will write to forum about it
[04:15:50] <XXCoder> yeah
[04:16:57] <furkanyilmaz11> Is there an any board to use for encoder pulse inputs. For completely close loop configuration?
[04:17:58] <furkanyilmaz11> which board do you suggest or which one are you using xxcoder?
[04:18:09] <XXCoder> im using cheapass controller board
[04:18:13] <XXCoder> chinese crap one
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[04:19:53] <furkanyilmaz11> Did you use it before for encoder pulse input? How did it work? And how much is it? Is it cheaper then mesa?
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[04:20:37] <XXCoder> kit I bought
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Axis-Nema23-Stepping-Motor-110N-cm-3-0A-4wire-board-TB6560-Power-for-CMC-mill-/281188392513?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4178225e41
[04:21:11] <furkanyilmaz11> Umm ok thats parport
[04:21:58] <furkanyilmaz11> Did you see new 6600 ic?
[04:22:14] <furkanyilmaz11> Its so much better than 6560
[04:22:25] <XXCoder> nah not really concerned, just need to get my cnc router working lol
[04:22:37] <XXCoder> havinbg serious issues with inability to do stuff lately
[04:22:38] <furkanyilmaz11> haha ok :)
[04:24:32] <furrywolf> random question: I want to engrave a piece of wood and paint the bottom of the letters. I'm thinking of taping over the wood, milling, painting, then scraping the tape. is there an easier way?
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[04:25:06] <XXCoder> or just mill, paint all over, then faceoff top off
[04:25:19] <XXCoder> make sure its slightly thicker than end result you want
[04:25:50] <furrywolf> it's in the middle of a long piece of wood. not going to take any off it.
[04:26:17] <XXCoder> hmm yeah tape seem to be better second option
[04:26:54] <XXCoder> if you had a planar that'd be better option
[04:27:27] <furrywolf> I don't want to thin the piece of wood. heh.
[04:27:37] <furrywolf> I have a 15x6 planer. I don't want to use it. :P
[04:27:57] <XXCoder> you has good tape that wont peel when mill cuts into it into wood?
[04:28:27] <furrywolf> dunno. I'm worried I do not.
[04:29:15] <XXCoder> scrap wood test
[04:29:32] <furrywolf> I plan on that.
[04:29:36] <XXCoder> nice O and something square on it to test effects
[04:29:57] <furrywolf> I bought a couple brands of masking tape and packing tape.
[04:30:11] <furrywolf> I'm not going to try duct tape or anything else with strands, as I don't think they'll cut cleanly.
[04:30:43] <XXCoder> best chance I would think would be masking tape
[04:31:17] <furrywolf> I got blue, "industrial" tan, and some green stuff with "paintguard technology" or some crap like that.
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[04:32:33] <XXCoder> lol ok. lets see which works well
[04:32:40] <furrywolf> I'm thinking of wrapping every type of tape in sections and just making a few long cuts through it to see what happens.
[04:33:00] <XXCoder> thats good for inital test
[04:33:11] <XXCoder> curves is tricky for tape to hold on if I recall
[04:34:04] <pcw_home> "mmm. Can't find module 'hm2_5i24"
[04:34:06] <pcw_home> the 5i24 uses hm2_pci like all PCI/PCIE cards
[04:40:30] <furrywolf> bbl, wolfy bedtime
[04:41:13] <XXCoder> nightb furrywolf
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[06:59:54] <Deejay> moin
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[07:19:00] <XXCoder> ohhhh
http://www.nanobeam.us/
[07:19:06] <XXCoder> time to build microcnc? lol
[07:31:31] <archivist> site fail, I block cross url stuff, none of their images are on their own domain!
[07:36:09] <XXCoder> yeah some sites has billion domains
[07:36:13] <XXCoder> whats up with that
[07:37:35] <archivist> cookie crap and tracking is what I am avoiding
[07:38:32] <XXCoder> yeah
[07:38:40] <XXCoder> anyway its like 8020
[07:38:42] <XXCoder> only much smaller
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[09:22:51] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder:
http://www.mmsonline.com/articles/micro-milling-at-12-million-rpm
[09:23:33] <XXCoder> looking
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[09:24:18] <archivist> pfft who needs a micro mill
http://gears.archivist.info/gears/IMG_1214_hires.JPG
[09:25:14] <XXCoder> interesting
[09:25:27] <XXCoder> lol yeah saw your work before
[09:25:31] <XXCoder> nice work indeed
[09:25:52] <SpeedEvil> archivist: neat indeed
[09:27:16] <archivist> sometimes you need a solid machine, that little pinion on right was made on
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2003/2003_01_23_Clockworks/P1010018.JPG
[09:29:38] <SpeedEvil> http://www.researchgate.net/profile/John_Ziegert/publication/239925798_An_Ultrahigh_Speed_Spindle_for_Micro-milling/links/543fb6440cf2be1758cf3d90.pdf
[09:31:14] <SpeedEvil> http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UFE0002847/00001/1j - in more detail - thesis on the design of the above machine
[09:32:09] <SpeedEvil> In principle - cutting forces could be ridiculously low.
[09:33:12] <SpeedEvil> .5mm takes 85 grams of cutting force
[09:33:42] <archivist> cut too little and you start rubbing
[09:33:57] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[09:34:14] <SpeedEvil> But that's making 2um thick chips. :)
[09:35:10] <XXCoder> breathe it in for health
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[09:37:35] <XXCoder> seriously can you even see those chips?
[09:39:16] <SpeedEvil> they will just be a fine dust
[09:39:39] <XXCoder> lol ok
[09:39:55] <XXCoder> dust so small I bet that would do nasty things to lungs
[09:39:58] <SpeedEvil> maybe very fine short 'fur' if making very fine chips
[09:40:02] <SpeedEvil> It's not _that_ fine.
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[12:53:48] <fogl> is sizeof(array) not suported in .comp? When i use it i get >>invalid application of ‘sizeof’ to incomplete type ‘unsigned int[]’<<
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[13:13:08] <furrywolf> archivist: wow, that must be one fucking big match. :P
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[13:36:52] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop do you remember how you enabled autologin in wheezy?
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[13:47:21] <_methods> Tom_itx: did you get it figured out
[13:47:43] <Tom_itx> no not yet
[13:47:54] <_methods> think you need to add "autologin-user = yourlogin name"
[13:48:01] <_methods> to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[13:48:10] <_methods> no quotes
[13:49:07] <_methods> in teh [SeatDefaults] section
[13:52:29] <Tom_itx> thanks
[13:52:43] <_methods> that work? cause i need to do the same thing lol
[13:52:53] <Tom_itx> i haven't rebooted
[13:53:09] <_methods> i'm too lazy to get up and go do it on mine lol
[13:53:18] <_methods> getting ready to go out for breakfast
[13:53:25] <_methods> or brunch lol
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[13:57:00] <_methods> ah cool it works
[13:57:05] <_methods> i just did it real quick
[14:00:53] <Tom_L> Can't find module hm2_5i24 in /usr/realtime-3.4.9-rtai-686-pae/modules/linuxcnc
[14:01:22] <Tom_L> dmesg: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver ver 0.15
[14:01:31] <archivist> furrywolf, nope, a bog standard sized match
[14:01:34] <Tom_L> hm2: unloading
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[14:02:37] <pcw_home> not terribly suprising since there is no hm2_5i24 module
[14:03:01] <Tom_L> same with 6i24
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[14:03:20] <pcw_home> same answer :-)
[14:03:31] <Tom_itx> don't load the driver?
[14:03:49] <pcw_home> all mesa PCI/PCIE cards use the hm2_pci driver
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[14:06:48] <pcw_home> the hm2_7i43 hm2_7i90 stuff is rather a botch, they should both use hm2_epp
[14:07:52] <Tom_itx> will they load using hm2_epp?
[14:08:14] <pcw_home> not yet
[14:09:16] <Tom_itx> seems my bitfile loaded fine once i selected the right chip size
[14:09:26] <pcw_home> hm2_epp shoudl also solve the issue of using the 7I43 with built in firmsware (which does not work now with hm2_7i43)
[14:10:10] <Tom_itx> no reason to use the 7i43 now that the 7i90 is availableish
[14:10:58] <pcw_home> it is on the store now...
[14:11:14] <Tom_itx> as of today?
[14:11:22] <Tom_itx> i checked yesterday..
[14:12:06] <Tom_itx> can i order 3 chips with one?
[14:13:11] <pcw_home> must have forgot to save it, done
[14:13:43] <pcw_home> yeah
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[14:17:00] <Tom_itx> ordered
[14:17:23] <Tom_itx> should i email to remind about chips?
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[14:20:19] <Tom_itx> _methods that worked... thanks
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[15:50:19] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, I don't have auto login on wheezy
[15:50:46] <Tom_itx> i fixed it
[15:50:57] <JT-Shop> what did you do?
[15:51:40] <Tom_itx> <_methods> think you need to add "autologin-user = yourlogin name"
[15:51:41] <Tom_itx> <_methods> to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[15:51:58] <Tom_itx> <_methods> in teh [SeatDefaults] section
[15:53:29] <Tom_itx> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_installing_firmware
[15:53:39] <Tom_itx> it might be handy to list the possible drivers there
[15:53:41] <Tom_itx> for a noob
[15:54:20] <Tom_itx> i'd been using a 7i43 which was an oddball and loaded hm2_7i43 instead of hm2_epp
[15:54:56] <JT-Shop> I'm using Mate
[15:55:37] <Tom_itx> oh
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[16:40:11] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Continuous-Hinge-1-ft-L-2-In-W-CA25020012-/111603560327 piano hinges $1.82/ft with free shipping seems cheap...
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[16:44:20] <furrywolf> I wish people would make up their mind on whether the width of a piano hinge is each half or both laid flat...
[16:44:21] <SpeedEvil> For lightly loaded stuff, I guess
[16:44:53] <SpeedEvil> Knuckle Length: 1/2"
[16:45:28] <SpeedEvil> Which is odd.
[16:45:30] <furrywolf> a lot of sellers use stock photos and don't specify which...
[16:45:48] <SpeedEvil> Because I make the width shown 6 knuckles
[16:45:52] <furrywolf> or they'll describe a 1" as "1/2x1/2" too.
[16:46:10] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[16:46:31] <SpeedEvil> You could ask them a question
[16:46:32] <furrywolf> I got some piano hinges at the local hardware store, but I don't think they're sturdy enough to support my enclosure.
[16:46:33] <archivist> idiots will get questions from buyers
[16:46:45] <furrywolf> I'm probably going to stuff 40lbs or something in it, and the hinge just feels flimsy.
[16:47:45] <furrywolf> .09something is the thickest aluminum hinge I can find. I could get steel, but the rest of it is aluminum.
[16:48:49] <furrywolf> I might end up having to drill my own holes... the ones with pre-drilled holes often seem to have stupid patterns, rather than just holes across from each other.
[16:49:34] <archivist> not opposite so the screw heads dont crash
[16:49:38] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-Piano-Hinge-1-x1-x-090-With-Holes-Start-at-8-95-Made-in-USA-/161449636143 is what I'm tempted to get, but it's $19 once you figure shipping for a 2ft one, vs $4 for the one I got from the hardware store...
[16:50:09] <furrywolf> archivist: I know, but for my application, other things will hit before the screws. also, the hardware store ones I got have opposite screws, and I want it all to match. :P
[16:50:26] <archivist> fussy :)
[16:50:37] <furrywolf> and fuzzy! I can be both! :P
[16:51:30] <archivist> sez me currently recasing the 5 axis birds nest
[16:51:42] <furrywolf> "Aluminum Piano Hinge 1 "x1 "x .090" sold in 1' increments up to 6', pin size 1/8", knuckle size 1 1/2"." how does 1" by 1" with 1+1/2" knuckle size work? I can't add those up to a way that I'm picturing its size.
[16:53:51] <furrywolf> do they mean 1.5" _long_ knuckles? that's fucking huge.
[16:54:07] <furrywolf> I guess they do.
[16:54:25] <furrywolf> meaning not very strong...
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[17:11:40] <SpeedEvil> Or at that price, you could just go with doorhinges
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[17:12:07] <furrywolf> they'd be in the way
[17:12:25] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: You use NX, right?
[17:19:46] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: jes
[17:20:44] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Ever got it to run on linux?
[17:20:59] <FinboySlick> (the native linux version that is)
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[17:21:22] <CaptHindsight> never tried
[17:22:08] <FinboySlick> How would you say the modeller compares to SolidWorks?
[17:22:22] <CaptHindsight> a level above
[17:22:49] <FinboySlick> OK. I'm struggling to get to work, was wondering if it was worth the effort. Apparently yes.
[17:23:38] <FinboySlick> What about the built-in CAM (which I think it has).
[17:23:53] <CaptHindsight> I use NX first for new designs. We have other popular applications as well since customers require it
[17:24:18] <CaptHindsight> yes, and you can customize the post processor as well
[17:24:45] <FinboySlick> Alright, I'll get back to figuring out what's wrong then.
[17:25:42] <FinboySlick> I'm getting an 'undefined symbol' error for a library that it provides (not one of my system libraries) so I'm a bit confused.
[17:29:54] <Tom_itx> pcw_home how long can you get by with on the 50pin ribbon?
[17:31:31] <pcw_home> depends on daughtercard but say 10- 15 feet for most
[17:32:29] <Tom_itx> ok well i don't need near that much
[17:32:56] <pcw_home> probably no longer than 5 feet for something like the 7I49 or 7I65 that has high speed SPI signals
[17:33:15] <pcw_home> (12 MHz or so)
[17:33:28] <Tom_itx> 6i24 / 7i47s
[17:33:41] <pcw_home> 15 feet just fine
[17:34:55] <pcw_home> (step/dir signals are properly terminated at the 7I47/7I47S end of the cable so 15 feet works fine)
[17:38:56] <pcw_home> for SPI you run into skew issues (15 feed adds about 45 ns of skew from clock to RX data)
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[18:09:54] <furkanyilmaz11> Is there an anybody to help me about this problem?
http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/10-advanced-configuration/29246-joint-following-errorkinematic-hal-included
[18:10:23] <furkanyilmaz11> I am just writing here to be sure about everybody see it... Thank you for understanding
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[20:06:41] <t12> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/7j0shd4aoach9dz/AAB4QdaNfkt2zAvIBg1xIFxia
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[21:24:30] <furrywolf> anyone ever installed a head on an eu3000is genny or an engine similar to the one that's in it? the service manual I have somehow neglects to cover putting the head back on, such as what you're supposed to do with the things that look like shims that came with the head gasket...
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[21:25:59] <Jymmm> Ok, where does the gcode go?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/151647526003
[21:26:25] <furrywolf> I have one thick gasket that looks like a briggs gasket, and two paper-thin shims that feel like stainless
[21:26:27] <malcom2073> Silly Jymmm, it goes in your head! :-P
[21:26:44] <malcom2073> You know.... for that price... I'd expect at least a tiny bit more
[21:26:56] <Jymmm> MacGyverX: too many holes there already silly
[21:27:18] <Jymmm> malcom2073: too many holes there already silly
[21:27:32] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: stupid comment - you've checked on youtube?
[21:27:34] <malcom2073> Well You may need to purchase a slightly more sealed head to use such a machine ;)
[21:27:45] <furrywolf> .05kW spindle. that thing is leeeetle. :P
[21:27:53] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: Or do you have a genny that needs the head removed?
[21:28:10] <furrywolf> SpeedEvil: I have a genny that came with the head off, and a new head and a gasket set in a bucket.
[21:28:31] <SpeedEvil> yeah - I mean you could inspect the nominal assembly
[21:28:32] <furrywolf> whoops, my bad. .024kW spindle. :P
[21:28:48] <furrywolf> I'm not going to take apart the working one to see how it was put together. :)
[21:29:03] <Jymmm> malcom2073: but its lathe too
http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-In-1-DIY-Tool-Mini-Multipurpose-Machine-Kit-Wood-Metal-Lathe-Milling-Drilling-/281661330515?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item419452d453
[21:29:10] <malcom2073> Haha yeah
[21:29:15] <malcom2073> I've seen those machines before, not in person though
[21:29:25] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: I was assuming they would all be similar
[21:30:03] <furrywolf> to see the details of the head gaskets, I'd need to pull the head... which I don't want to do just for the hell of it.
[21:31:13] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[21:31:23] <archivist> furrywolf, just possible you shim to set compression ration
[21:31:28] <SpeedEvil> Hmm - might you be able to infer it from the gaps?
[21:31:30] <SpeedEvil> That too
[21:31:32] <archivist> ratio
[21:32:28] <furrywolf> yeah, I'm worried it's some crap like that. which is why it would be really, really nice if the manual mentioned how to put it together, not just "reverse of disaaembly".
[21:33:38] <furrywolf> hrmm, I'm now not sure the gasket kit is actually for this engine... brb, poking at the parts boxes more.
[21:34:53] <zeeshan> http://gyazo.com/cb8f37acf2280ed6df136b212e9e1b31
[21:35:09] <zeeshan> http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj272/motorheaddown/Fuel%20pump%20install/y-block.jpg
[21:35:13] <zeeshan> thinking of holding that Y like that
[21:35:19] <zeeshan> comments? :D
[21:35:46] <Jymmm> malcom2073:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-Router-Rotary-Axis-Kit-A-Axis-4th-Axis-and-Tailstock-for-Engraving-Machine-/161270124346
[21:37:04] <furrywolf> yes, it is for this engine.
[21:37:23] <XXCoder> did you see those thingies at disassembly steps?
[21:37:39] <malcom2073> heh
[21:38:37] <furrywolf> https://www.stens.com/480-395-gasket-set that's the gasket set it came with... note there's two headgasket-like gaskets of the same shape. the silver one is paper thin.
[21:39:01] <furrywolf> I also have a stack of thin ones that seem to be cut from stainless
[21:42:10] <Jymmm> malcom2073:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/10521805-3-Jaw-Self-Centering-Watch-Makers-Jewelry-DIY-Mini-Lathe-Chuck-50mm-/291441552696?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43db452d38
[21:43:26] <malcom2073> Jymmm: You looking for the cheapest things possible?
[21:43:37] <Jymmm> malcom2073: "It's cute"
[21:44:24] <malcom2073> True, doesn't make it useful though
[21:45:12] <furrywolf> hmm, apparantly there's an almost-identical generator with the gx160 instead of the gx200, and I think they share the same gasket set... mostly.
[21:45:47] * SpeedEvil tries to remember if his generator is a gx160
[21:45:52] <SpeedEvil> it's a someting160
[21:46:24] <SpeedEvil> looks right
[21:46:28] <furrywolf> is it made in china? the china160 is quite popular....
[21:46:35] <SpeedEvil> No.
[21:46:47] <SpeedEvil> It currently is not doing the whole 'starting' thing though
[21:47:12] <furrywolf> that's usually easy enough to fix. fuel, spark, compression...
[21:47:15] <furrywolf> in that order
[21:47:26] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: yeah - I know
[21:47:53] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: In principle I know how to fix it. In practice, getting the washing up done is sometimes exhausting at the moment.
[21:48:20] <furrywolf> apparantly the gx200 gasket is .010 thick while the gx160 gasket is .045 thick. I think the paper-thin gaskets are actually stand-alone head gaskets, while the thick ones are for a different engine?
[21:48:46] <SpeedEvil> could they be for altering compression at altitude?
[21:48:53] <SpeedEvil> err - no - that would go the other way
[21:48:59] <furrywolf> no, altitude adjustment is a carb jet
[21:49:39] <furrywolf> I think it's just a case of the gasket set including gaskets for both the gx160 and the gx200, and you're supposed to figure out which one to use...
[21:50:22] <SpeedEvil> :)
[21:50:47] <XXCoder> fun
[21:51:16] <furrywolf> I've found two references that the stock head gasket is only .010 thick
[21:51:34] <furrywolf> sec, grabbing calipers. (they're handy, micrometer is not, and mitu thickness gauge is awol)
[21:52:28] <XXCoder> calipers is fine if you dont care about .001 precision
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[21:53:26] <furrywolf> sure 'nuff, the thin ones are .010.
[21:53:37] <furrywolf> that's a thin head gasket!
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[21:54:12] <furrywolf> now, should I use the new one in the chinese gasket kit, or one of the stack of used oem ones? the used oem ones look to be much, much higher quality, but they're used, while the chinese one is new...
[21:54:46] <XXCoder> can always change em if chinese one is too bad?
[21:57:32] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: Well, I got it semi-working. The motif interface is horrible though.
[21:58:15] <furrywolf> heh, someone needs to work on their unit conversions... "Use a hot plate to heat the head evenly to 150C (330F)" ... "Do not get the head hotter than 150C (300F)"
[21:59:01] <XXCoder> just use nonecludian heater
[22:00:03] <XXCoder> talking about eschers...
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1432394152-20150523.png
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[22:24:13] <Guest84710> Hello, newbie here
[22:26:15] <XXCoder> hey
[22:26:17] <furrywolf> first step, /nick somethingotherthannoob :P
[22:26:17] <Guest84710> still reading the documentation, have a Townlabs mini-mill that I will be trying to get running over the next few weeks
[22:26:38] <XXCoder> learn our gang sign
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1432394152-20150523.png ;)
[22:26:52] <XXCoder> nice
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[22:28:24] <Guest84710> Nice sign, maybe I can get a chapter jacket with "initiate" on it like a motorcycle gang
[22:28:35] <Guest84710> with a big Tux penguin
[22:28:44] <XXCoder> ;)
[22:30:24] <Guest84710> Well, I'll be quiet now, unless you have some tips other than read the docs and check
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org
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[23:04:18] <Jymmm> dont eat yellow snow
[23:07:08] <furrywolf> went to put on the head that came with the genny, that he said was complete... not. it's missing the oil seals and the exhaust valve rotator.
[23:10:46] <furrywolf> hrmm, it does have oil seals, right? the manual doesn't show any. that's... odd.
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[23:14:31] <furrywolf> if it doesn't have oil seals, then I'll just grab a valve rotator from the box o' used parts... that's not something that needs to be new, unlike seals.
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[23:17:37] <furrywolf> both of the parts heads have oil seals.
[23:17:48] <furrywolf> honda seriously fucking failed with this manual.
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