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[00:49:52] <furrywolf> yay! I just got attacked by puppies.
[00:50:10] <Aero-Tec> is there a good MPG Pendant controller out there for linuxcnc?
[00:50:26] <Aero-Tec> would like to get a good one
[00:50:26] <XXCoder> yay puppies for dinner!
[00:50:40] <furrywolf> my neighbor brought a litter from their ranch over to their house yesterday, and they of course promptly escaped... it's hard to work on generators when you have five little fuzzballs climbing on you and nibblinb.
[00:50:40] <furrywolf> nibbling
[00:50:53] <XXCoder> cute :)
[00:52:12] <Aero-Tec> are the puppies cnc?
[00:52:19] <XXCoder> yes
[00:52:24] <XXCoder> they evenually make more puppies
[00:52:29] <Aero-Tec> can I control them with linuxcnc?
[00:52:30] <Aero-Tec> lol
[00:52:39] <XXCoder> sorry not compitable unfortunately
[00:52:53] <Aero-Tec> what????
[00:53:10] <Aero-Tec> something cnc that linuxcnc can not control
[00:53:32] <XXCoder> yeah dont think theres any software solution for puppies for now. maybe year or two down the road lol
[00:53:35] <Aero-Tec> hell had truly froze over
[00:54:09] <Aero-Tec> anyways
[00:54:19] <Aero-Tec> MPG Pendant controllers
[00:54:25] <Aero-Tec> linuxcnc
[00:54:47] <jdh> you just need to stick a grbl on them
[00:54:47] <Aero-Tec> any recommendations?
[00:55:10] <Aero-Tec> are we still talking puppies?
[00:56:18] <Aero-Tec> BTW what is grbl?
[00:57:35] <malcom2073> It's a cnc controller for arduino
[00:57:45] <XXCoder> what the heck
[00:57:47] <XXCoder> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150523-lewihe-prepares-to-launch-play-a-77-dollars-fully-customizable-3d-printer.html
[00:57:50] <XXCoder> 77 bucks
[00:58:06] <furrywolf> I was thinking of using one of mesa's rs422 addons for a mpg controller.
[01:00:09] <XXCoder> I wonder how easy it is to source those not aviliable parts
http://www.lewihe.com/shop/play/
[01:00:34] <malcom2073> XXCoder: That's about how much a mechanical kit costs, yeah. Read between the lines, you still need the $300 electronics kit
[01:00:59] <XXCoder> interesting. too bad not complete that'd be kickass
[01:01:15] <malcom2073> Yeah, the latest crazy is selling "Sub 100$ printers!", without electronics heh
[01:01:33] <XXCoder> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150529-portland-firm-customized-products-with-3d-printed-titanium-bicycle-the-solid.html thats awesome
[01:02:25] <malcom2073> What's a MPG pendant?
[01:02:35] <malcom2073> Oh
[01:02:38] <malcom2073> Interesting
[01:02:56] <malcom2073> I'll bite, what does MPG stand for though?
[01:10:13] <Aero-Tec> multi pulse generator
[01:10:42] <Aero-Tec> or Miles Per Gallon
[01:10:44] <Aero-Tec> lol
[01:10:54] <Aero-Tec> but that has nothing to do with cnc
[01:11:56] <Aero-Tec> Multi Pulse Generator sends a train of pulses to the linuxcnc controller
[01:12:42] <Aero-Tec> for manually controlling the position of the cutter
[01:12:43] <jdh> manual
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[04:03:39] <furrywolf> after poking at the other repairable-looking eu3000is, I find I do _not_ have enough parts to assemble it. I have all the big things, but I'm missing, at a minimum, the bushings for the air cleaner housing bolts, the fitting that attaches the choke cable to the carb linkage, and the under-engine cowling piece.
[04:04:05] <furrywolf> these are, however, all things I can fire it up without, for testing purposes.
[04:07:12] <furrywolf> and, on a completely unrelated issue, linode's fremont datacenter is down, and along with it my ability to usefully access the internet.
[04:09:46] <furrywolf> they blame it on a power failure combined with a generator failure. what, are burt gummer and myself the only people with backup backup generators? :)
[04:25:31] <furrywolf> bbl, wolfy bedtime
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[06:49:56] <Deejay> moin
[06:50:14] <XXCoder> no
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[11:43:25] <anonimasu> hello
[11:43:37] <anonimasu> anyone good at maho's ? :D
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[11:46:25] <XXCoder> good night/morning
[11:46:39] <XXCoder> not me but this channel isnt very active at this time
[11:46:41] <jthornton> I don't even know what a maho is
[11:46:44] <XXCoder> my place its 4 am
[11:46:46] <XXCoder> soon 5
[11:46:59] <jthornton> amost 7 here
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[11:53:14] <SpeedEvil> I thought it was something to do with snowboarding
[11:54:38] <SpeedEvil> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maho
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[11:58:10] <syyl_ws> maho is a long gone machine manufacturer
[11:58:15] <syyl_ws> yes, they are gone.
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[12:01:36] <SpeedEvil> ah
[12:11:02] <archivist> time to retrofit then
[12:13:33] <archivist> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAHO-MH-700-UNIVERSAL-MILLING-MACHINE-3-AXIS-DRO-MILL-SWIVEL-TABLE-/221290598671
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[12:17:54] <archivist> http://www.lathes.co.uk/maho/ now part of DMG
[12:19:31] <micges> maho is a good candidate to retrofit, doing maho 700c here
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[12:37:36] <syyl> yeah archivist
[12:37:48] <syyl> but they dont want have to do anything with the old MH machines
[12:37:56] <archivist> shame
[12:37:59] <syyl> like with the old deckel FPxNC machines
[12:38:18] <archivist> some companies just want to sell new
[12:38:49] <archivist> business opportunity !
[12:39:07] <syyl> :\
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[14:16:49] <archivist> some things cannot be unseen Z axis !
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CNC-Parts-Z-axis-dc-motor-ballscrew-linear-slideways-/271860686981
[14:17:16] <archivist> bent tin ways
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[14:45:56] <anonimasu> my maho is still going strong :D
[14:46:07] <anonimasu> I just have a question about how to change the spindle acel/decel ramp
[14:46:28] * anonimasu is running a maho 700s daily
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[15:22:35] <zeeshan> anonimasu: you have a vfd?
[15:25:30] <JT-Shop> dang laser printer is fast
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[15:35:27] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/KOjtGim.jpg
[15:35:32] <zeeshan> i dislike welding cast GM stuff
[15:35:40] <zeeshan> always welds like ass no matter how much you prep it
[15:35:46] <zeeshan> you do the same welding on cast japanese, it works great!
[15:37:06] <furrywolf> archivist: they look a lot heavier than "tin".
[15:37:45] <furrywolf> archivist: if you look at the slot visible on the right side of the third image, you can see it's quite heavy wall.
[15:38:30] <furrywolf> same with the slot/track at the front in the last image
[15:38:33] <furrywolf> it's 1/4" wall or something
[15:38:46] <archivist> furrywolf, bent stuff for guides I regard as tin
[15:38:59] <furrywolf> so, yes, it is formed from sheet... but it looks quite sturdy.
[15:39:33] <archivist> straight or some curve
[15:40:07] <furrywolf> ?
[15:40:23] <furrywolf> zeeshan: I bought a mt3 bullnose center on ebay... $35. :(
[15:40:38] <zeeshan> nice score
[15:40:40] <zeeshan> what brand
[15:40:48] <zeeshan> usa brand is usually 250-350 new
[15:41:03] <furrywolf> "Watts Tools"
[15:41:23] <zeeshan> never heard :P
[15:41:27] <furrywolf> I shouldn't be spending that much on tooling, but it's something I have a specific use for...
[15:41:30] <furrywolf> yes, hence the quotes. :P
[15:41:35] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/381228562964
[15:43:18] <furrywolf> googling it finds only the ebay auction, just in case you're tempted. heh.
[15:43:51] <zeeshan> usa made! :P
[15:44:14] <furrywolf> maybe.
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[15:44:36] <furrywolf> I'm very suspicious of companies that don't seem to actually exist. :P
[15:46:25] <furrywolf> should be here today
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[15:48:54] <furrywolf> I need to fix the slip rings on my welder-generator, and it takes a bullnose center to support the rotor.
[15:49:30] <furrywolf> one cracked completely, I brazed it, now the other is developing tiny surface cracks all over... going to turn some fresh brass to size and heat-fit it over the old slip rings.
[15:51:42] <furrywolf> after doing that I have to turn it true, which needs the bullnose lathe center
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[16:01:31] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Outback-Power-Systems-MX-60-PV-MPPT-Solar-Charge-Controller-/231578322798 hrmm, I do need a second one of those, but do I need a repair project?
[16:02:12] <furrywolf> not waking up from sleep could be anything from a bad terminal to a melted power board..
[16:04:14] <furrywolf> right now, when I do get sun (haven't seen any in a month...), I hit the 60A limit on my charge controller.
[16:07:22] <SpeedEvil> you've got new lead acids that can cope
[16:08:27] <SpeedEvil> ?
[16:08:54] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, must be laser printer season.. had to get one yesterday as well
[16:09:11] <SpeedEvil> furrywolf: 60A@24v?
[16:09:24] <furrywolf> no (working batties) yes (60A 24V)
[16:09:29] <furrywolf> batteries
[16:10:24] <SpeedEvil> Simple series string of panels?
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[16:10:33] <JT-Shop> I picked up a Brother monochrome
[16:10:57] <_methods> that's what i have too
[16:11:05] <_methods> wifi printer is nice
[16:11:34] <furrywolf> no. random mix of panels
[16:12:38] <Tom_itx> hah, same here
[16:12:42] <Tom_itx> brother all in one
[16:13:12] <Tom_itx> still setting it up
[16:13:17] <JT-Shop> I got the smallest one so I could put it on the small table beside my dexk
[16:13:22] <JT-Shop> desk
[16:13:25] <furrywolf> I think there's 2 kyocera 130, 2 siemens 90, 2 something I don't remember 110, 10 solec 80, 2 arco 43, 8 arco 55, 1 matrix 100, 1 slightly different matrix 100, 2 unknown 100s, 2 brand I don't remember 80s, umm... there might be more up there. I'd need to climb on the roof and count. :P
[16:13:52] <furrywolf> there's another 100 I'm not rembering the brand of right now
[16:13:58] <furrywolf> remembering
[16:14:07] <Tom_itx> i needed a scanner too since win7 doesn't have drivers for my old one
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[16:15:59] <furrywolf> so, short answer, no, there's nothing simple about the panels. :)
[16:18:36] <SpeedEvil> I think I'd be looking at DIY boosters to ~48V to each.
[16:18:51] <SpeedEvil> but ...
[16:19:11] <furrywolf> going down is much easier than going up
[16:19:11] * SpeedEvil is happy solar has hit $1/W in the easy way here.
[16:19:26] <SpeedEvil> - free shipping on ebay panels
[16:19:28] <furrywolf> bbl
[16:23:26] <roycroft> don't you just connect multiple panels in series to boost voltage?
[16:24:29] <SpeedEvil> that relies on them being similarly illuminated, with near-identical current
[16:29:01] <roycroft> so you would want to buy sets of identical panels and place them in close proximity
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[16:31:25] <varesa> first "real" milling completed :)
[16:33:49] <SpeedEvil> roycroft: yes
[16:33:56] <SpeedEvil> varesa: yay
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[17:11:43] <balestrino> i got a realtime error, i have BASE_PERIOD set at 40000 and SERVO_PERIOD at 1100000
[17:12:47] <balestrino> latency test max jitter is quite low, it's 14000ns
[17:14:29] <balestrino> should i increase base_period and/or servo_period?
[17:18:18] <pcw_home> If you look at the kernel log with dmesg, the actual compliant will be there so you can see what the numbers say...
[17:19:19] <pcw_home> ( that is, you can see what triggered the real time error )
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[17:46:53] <archivist> anybody know this stylus fitting 5mm thread
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2015/2015_05_29_probe_stylus/IMG_1933.JPG
[17:51:05] <pcw_home> Oooh Ruby
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[17:52:06] <archivist> scored a set the other day
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321755717157
[17:52:35] <archivist> smallest 3 are rather rough
[17:53:31] <archivist> dont think the sellers claim of renishaw is right unless they do that fitting too
[17:54:17] <pcw_home> large ones are carbide?
[17:55:13] <archivist> no the same material as the shaft, light, ally or something exotic
[17:56:17] <pcw_home> Titanium?
[17:57:46] <archivist> could be, non magnetic anyway
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[17:58:30] <archivist> no sign of a makers name on them or the box
[18:02:30] <_methods> looks like older renishaw
[18:03:37] <_methods> you'll have to send those pics to someone who deals with stylii on a regular basis i believe to get a good identification though
[18:03:51] <archivist> could be right
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MUSHROOM-HEAD-20mm-Styli-PROBE-20mm-diameter-ZEISS-RENISHAW-CMM-Stylus/271871032020
[18:03:57] <_methods> is that a 5mm tip?
[18:04:51] <archivist> bottom is 6mm, top is 8
[18:05:40] <_methods> large ones
[18:08:11] <pcw_home> looks like Zeiss uses M5
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[18:10:12] <archivist> renishaw do have zeiss types in their catalogue
[18:10:17] <pcw_home> there are adapters:
[18:10:18] <pcw_home> http://www.renishaw.com/en/styli/A50030856.aspx
[18:11:33] <archivist> I bet this is the right head
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ZEISS-Renishaw-CMM-Scanning-PROBE-HEAD-AND-MOUNT-/281692998730
[18:14:43] <balestrino> psc_home: dmesg says "in recent history there were 2632384, etc, elapsed clock between calls in the motion controller. This time there were 3164317.. etc."
[18:16:07] <balestrino> pcw_home: what's the meaning of these numbers?
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[18:22:13] <archivist> balestrino, how long did you run the latency test for, and did you try to upset the pc by doing graphical/disk or other work while it was running
[18:22:53] <balestrino> i tested with 2xglxgears, youtube, and some minor app open
[18:23:12] <balestrino> not for much long time sincerely
[18:23:20] <archivist> I find scrolling a text file is another way
[18:23:56] <balestrino> but latency issues are related to base_period or servo_period?
[18:23:59] <balestrino> or both?
[18:24:54] <archivist> both I think
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[18:36:45] <pcw_home> balestrino: thats a servo thread issue, those numbers are in CPU clocks
[18:38:57] <pcw_home> if the servo thread period is in error by more than 20% linuxcnc bitches about it so at your
[18:38:58] <pcw_home> 1100000 ns servo thread period this threshold represents more than 220 Usec delay
[18:39:34] <pcw_home> what CPU, Motherboard, CPU speed?
[18:39:52] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, you using the lan to connect your brother?
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[18:48:07] <balestrino> it's a AMD Ahtlon dual core 2.7Ghz
[18:48:31] <balestrino> with Mesa5i25 board
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[18:50:06] <balestrino> motherboard is a ASUS M2N68-CM
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[18:55:08] <pcw_home> do you have all power management and c state options disabled in the BIOS?
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[18:56:25] <balestrino> i'm going to check it
[18:58:44] <pcw_home> turn off cool&quiet if that MB is new enough to have that option
[18:59:41] <balestrino> APCI APIC support should be disabled?
[19:00:26] <balestrino> cool&quiet was enabled
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[19:02:40] <pcw_home> you need APIC typically if you want linux to be able to power-down
[19:02:54] <pcw_home> ( AFAICR )
[19:03:08] <balestrino> ok thank you
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[19:12:38] <pcw_home> ohh that not apic is something else I'm thinking about
[19:13:26] <pcw_home> ACPI is what I meant
[19:14:34] <pcw_home> damned acronyms with rearranged letters..........
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[19:15:37] <balestrino> :) i've disabled a lot of things. I feel dumb. I dont know why i didnt checked them
[19:20:31] <pcw_home> I just turn all that stuff off by habit now
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[19:57:21] <Computer_barf> if im getting jerky movements occasionally when a i run a bit of gcode, could this be caused by accelleration settings?
[19:58:28] <Computer_barf> like when the program started, it had one movement that was VERY fast, scared the crap out of me, but then it was going pretty steady at the 5.8ipm setting I put into the facing program, it appears to go pretty fast when it turns around
[20:02:28] <JT-Shop> could be doing G0 on turn around?
[20:05:39] <Computer_barf> http://pastebin.com/x4rhbJFq
[20:06:00] <Computer_barf> ive not yet set my own accelleration value is why i am concerned about tha
[20:06:05] <Computer_barf> *that
[20:06:43] <Computer_barf> im uncertain what I should set it to for my g0704 , or at least a starting value I can experiment with
[20:07:40] <Computer_barf> http://pastebin.com/eLsNQt31
[20:07:43] <Computer_barf> there is my hal file
[20:08:35] <pcw_home> max velocity is set to 1200 IPM, this may be a bit scary
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[20:09:56] <Computer_barf> MAX_VELOCITY = 20 ?
[20:10:12] <Computer_barf> is this being calculated up to a higher number based on all the math above?
[20:10:56] <pcw_home> thats 20 Inches per second or 1200 IPM
[20:11:20] <Computer_barf> ahh
[20:11:53] <JT-Shop> acceleration should be 10-20 times max velocity
[20:12:21] <Computer_barf> nice, thanks for the tip
[20:12:24] <pcw_home> so setting those to 5 might be about right for your machine
[20:14:08] <pcw_home> ( note that you need to change MAX_VELOCITY in 3 places)
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[20:17:07] <Computer_barf> yes changed each axis. Machine behaving more reasonably now.
[20:17:33] <pcw_home> For best performance ,you need to tune your machine to see what accelration and velocity its capable of without stalling
[20:17:35] <pcw_home> though you may want to limit the max velocity to a value you are comfortable with even if the machine
[20:17:36] <pcw_home> is capable of more
[20:18:10] <JT-Shop> Computer_barf, have you seen the stepper test in the manual?
[20:19:37] <Computer_barf> I've gone through the linuxcnc reference online but often these things are a blur with so much jargon I've not mastered yet. I'll look it back up.
[20:21:12] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/common/Stepper_Diagnostics.html#_testing
[20:22:54] <Computer_barf> im super psyched about just the facing program lol. I have a bunch of rough rectangles of aluminum I pour from scrap.
[20:23:29] <SpeedEvil> :)
[20:23:34] <JT-Shop> do you use a barrel relcaimer to melt the aluminum?
[20:23:38] <Computer_barf> ive thus far been manually doing it, and recently doing it from the keyboard
[20:24:22] <Computer_barf> I have a small electric furnace I build with scrap from a ceramic kiln
[20:24:51] <JT-Shop> I'm thinking of building a barrel melter
[20:25:18] <Computer_barf> im not sure exactly what that would mean, a barrel lined with aluminum oxide bricks?
[20:25:58] <Computer_barf> I've done a simple pit with a barrel in it with air fed in , all ran on pine
[20:26:41] <Computer_barf> I would like to build a plastics cracking unit to make kerosene
[20:26:56] <Computer_barf> and then build a furnace that runs on kerosene
[20:27:20] <Computer_barf> something that hot you could melt cast iron :)
[20:27:35] <JT-Shop> it's pretty redneck just a barrel with both ends cut out sitting on a grate over a 1/4 of a barrel with water in the bottom
[20:27:46] <JT-Shop> you build a fire in the top barrel and toss in your scrap
[20:28:07] <JT-Shop> it melts and falls into the water making little nuggets of aluminum
[20:28:14] <Computer_barf> nothing more redneck than a pipe feeding into a hole in the ground
[20:28:37] <Computer_barf> oh no crucible
[20:28:46] <Computer_barf> i guess that is pretty redneck
[20:29:14] <SpeedEvil> seen ant hill casting?
[20:29:18] <Computer_barf> yeah
[20:29:20] <JT-Shop> effective for big things that won't fit into your crucible
[20:29:26] <Computer_barf> seen watermelon casting?
[20:29:40] <SpeedEvil> - pour 20kg of Al into an anthill
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[20:32:05] <JT-Shop> you checked this forum out
http://www.alloyavenue.com/vb/forum.php
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[20:33:17] <Computer_barf> click
[20:34:11] <JT-Shop> my furnace
http://gnipsel.com/images/casting/
[20:34:59] <Computer_barf> yes my priority on that front is to build some sort of multi burner
[20:35:22] <Computer_barf> something that can start on propane, and then feed in another fluid + air
[20:37:48] <JT-Shop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQf5ybsPS3g
[20:39:40] <JT-Shop> here it is a water bath alum scrapper
http://www.alloyavenue.com/vb/showthread.php?9541-Water-bath-bulk-scrapper-for-aluminium&highlight=scrapper
[20:39:55] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop you don't need firebrick for the barrel?
[20:40:00] <JT-Shop> no
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[20:40:17] <Computer_barf> i just don't understand the point if it's not getting cast into something as a solid piece
[20:40:41] <JT-Shop> the point is you can put the nuggets in your crucible but you can put a wheel in on
[20:40:42] <JT-Shop> e
[20:40:51] <JT-Shop> can't put a wheel in one
[20:41:04] <Computer_barf> ahhhh
[20:41:40] <JT-Shop> and you don't have to physically bust up the wheel or head or transmission
[20:43:05] <XXCoder> Computer_barf: I saw video where guy made fire blower using used car oil and stuff
[20:43:09] <XXCoder> hold on a sec
[20:43:56] <Computer_barf> yeah , waste vegtable oil, car oil , thicker stuff that is a bit harder to get lit is cool,
[20:44:00] <Computer_barf> requires preheating
[20:44:40] <Computer_barf> thats why I want some sort of multi-fuel burner
[20:45:20] <Computer_barf> this austrialian reminds me of colin furze
[20:46:20] <Computer_barf> bbl
[20:49:32] <XXCoder> Computer_barf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-uCY38Njc8
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[20:49:52] <XXCoder> no preheater
[20:50:58] <XXCoder> theres earlier video where he builds the blower
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[23:44:55] <XXCoder> Computer_barf: check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFaA218gT2k
[23:45:01] <XXCoder> im bit tempted to make one lol
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