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[00:10:17] <XXCoder1> I hate mowing lawn.
[00:10:54] <jdh> outsource it.
[00:10:58] <XXCoder1> furrywolf: yeah theres people that need to be told 10 times, then correct answer tattooed on hand in order to do it right
[00:11:02] <XXCoder1> guy wanted $175
[00:11:03] <XXCoder1> pffft
[00:11:19] <XXCoder1> other guy $65 which is ok but guys new so meh
[00:11:24] <jdh> must be a helluva lawn, last guy here wanted $35
[00:11:33] <XXCoder1> jdh: 2k sqft
[00:11:47] <XXCoder1> no trim, no cleanup
[00:11:50] <jdh> the house or the lawn?
[00:11:56] <XXCoder1> lawn
[00:12:06] <XXCoder1> house itself is 2k or so
[00:12:10] <DaViruz> XXCoder1:
http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/robotic-mowers/husqvarna-robotic-mowers-for-homeowners/
[00:12:37] <XXCoder1> heard people like to steal those
[00:12:52] <DaViruz> that's useless, they are pin code protected
[00:13:02] <DaViruz> afaik noone has cracked them yet
[00:13:10] <XXCoder1> time to build green cpo'd
[00:13:28] <malcom2073> Heh, that costs as much as my mower, could be worth it
[00:13:29] <XXCoder1> yes thats delibrate typo on name lol
[00:15:10] <XXCoder1> anyway this house yard is annoying size
[00:15:21] <XXCoder1> too small for ride type, too large for push type
[00:15:58] <DaViruz> isn't 2000 sqft like.. super tiny?
[00:16:24] <jdh> my yard is tiny. I got a rider
[00:18:48] <XXCoder1> hmm
[00:18:51] <XXCoder1> might be closer to 4k
[00:20:59] <XXCoder1> whoooo
[00:21:08] <XXCoder1> google map zoom out is waaaaay better
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[00:22:36] <XXCoder1> it used to zoom out to silly tiled map
[00:22:41] <XXCoder1> now it goes to actual sphere
[00:23:55] <furrywolf> grrrrr. and apparantly someone has stolen the info of yet another of my credit cards. I only use my capitalone card at local buisnesses that do not take amex, and yet it's been stolen.
[00:24:32] <furrywolf> my amex gives me lots of cash back, my capitalone gives me none, so I only use it when I can't use amex. everything online uses amex, and 90% of local shopping goes on the amex...
[00:25:16] <furrywolf> this will be the, dunno, fourth time I've gotten a new credit card in the last two years? staples got it stolen, target got it stolen, a local gas station got it stolen,...
[00:26:25] <furrywolf> since I use this card at so few places, it has to be one of three restaurants, two hardware stores, or interstate battery.
[00:27:52] <jdh> only time I've had that happen was my company amex
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[00:58:43] <XXCoder1> furrywolf: that is why I rub out special 3 number on back
[00:59:11] <XXCoder1> makes it harder
[00:59:21] <XXCoder1> well yum time be back in bit
[01:00:52] <norias> looks like i'm trying to win
[01:01:00] <norias> the how tabs can i open my browser game
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[01:04:10] <XXCoder1> how many?
[01:04:23] <XXCoder1> yum tater lol
[01:05:03] <norias> hmm several
[01:05:08] <norias> i'm not counting that
[01:05:22] <norias> i think browser should track it
[01:05:24] <norias> like a game
[01:05:37] <norias> a graph of how many tabs you open over time
[01:05:42] <norias> a max score
[01:05:55] <norias> maybe some stats about average tab life
[01:06:01] <norias> max tab life
[01:06:02] <norias> etc
[01:06:34] <XXCoder1> sounds like stats plugin of some kinf
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[01:10:27] <norias> true
[01:11:10] <XXCoder1> didnt find any but didnt look hard either
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[01:39:48] <norias> youch
[01:39:52] <norias> put my legs up
[01:39:55] <norias> for a bit
[01:39:59] <norias> and thought i was stuck
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[01:48:40] <XXCoder1> remember gravioty is higher then you lean back, and gravity is highest when youre in bed and tired
[01:50:08] <norias> that's... general relativity, right?
[01:50:17] <norias> it depends on your intertial refference frame
[01:50:25] <XXCoder1> nah just fact of life lol
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[02:04:43] <Crom> man... sending a kid to Santa Cruz is NOT CHEAP!!!
[02:05:38] <Crom> $10xx a month for a room $10300 a year + meal plan
[02:05:46] <norias> hmm
[02:05:47] <norias> ok
[02:05:58] <Jymmm> Crom: Hard hard is it to tell em to thumb it like al the other dirty hippies in sC
[02:06:10] <XXCoder1> what for?
[02:06:56] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: (I think he means UC Santa Cruz, but the town is full of dirty hippies)
[02:07:10] <Jymmm> It's a lovely freak show to watch though =)
[02:07:18] <XXCoder1> hippies is fine. better than hipsers
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[02:07:35] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: of course
[02:07:49] <XXCoder1> just saw the tallest hipser today
[02:07:50] <Jymmm> but a fine line
[02:07:54] <XXCoder1> he was over 7 feet tall
[02:08:06] <roycroft> i'm a hippie
[02:08:11] <roycroft> but i shower regularly
[02:08:14] <XXCoder1> im 1/4 hippie
[02:08:24] <roycroft> and i'm allergic to patchouli
[02:08:32] <Jymmm> lol
[02:08:40] <Jymmm> roycroft: with soap?
[02:08:42] <XXCoder1> I support pot but I dont smoke em, saw no need
[02:08:45] <roycroft> yes, with soap
[02:08:47] <roycroft> and water
[02:08:54] <Jymmm> roycroft: home made soap?
[02:08:57] <roycroft> no
[02:09:02] <roycroft> well, not home made by me
[02:09:05] <roycroft> sometimes home made by someone else
[02:09:05] <Jymmm> roycroft: Ok, you may pass
[02:09:25] <roycroft> i make my own tie dye shirts though
[02:09:35] * Jymmm grabs the DIRTY HIPPY stamps and smacks roycroft across the forehead
[02:09:43] <Crom> I'm big time allergic to Latex, so no night shades, raw potatos, no melons even water mellon
[02:09:47] <XXCoder1> I have preppy hippie tie dye clothes
[02:09:48] <roycroft> and i'm making some delicious beer right now
[02:09:56] <XXCoder1> I did it delberately lol
[02:10:09] <Crom> I LIKE wearing bell bottoms
[02:10:23] <roycroft> come to think of it, the country fair is coming up fairly soon
[02:10:24] <XXCoder1> I hate pants
[02:10:28] <XXCoder1> shorts is my fav
[02:10:28] <Crom> little wider than boot flare
[02:10:34] <roycroft> i need to schedule some time to tie dye
[02:10:40] <Crom> sarongs are good too
[02:10:43] <roycroft> i always make a few shirts for the country fair every year
[02:11:09] * roycroft wears a utilikilt often when it gets hot
[02:11:37] <Crom> I only wear shorts in the snow or inside. Sarongs or long pants and long sleeves
[02:12:09] <XXCoder1> shprts 8-9 months of year, only 3-4 months pants
[02:12:10] <Crom> utilikilts are too freak'n expensive
[02:12:26] <roycroft> nothing like a little ventilation for your twig and berries
[02:12:45] <Crom> ahh regimetal
[02:12:50] <Crom> ahh regimental
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[02:12:59] <roycroft> always regimental!
[02:13:38] <Crom> which is why utilikilts are too short
[02:13:41] <roycroft> sweaty tallywags are the worst
[02:13:46] <roycroft> mine is the proper length
[02:13:58] <roycroft> it comes down to the top of my knee
[02:14:26] <Crom> I like sarongs better, comes down to my ankles but they flow more air.
[02:14:44] <Crom> and they are portable changing rooms too
[02:15:22] <Crom> , sling, hammock, backpack, manpurse, jacket
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[02:30:04] <XXCoder1> yo
[02:30:28] <norias> wait
[02:39:31] <Jymmm> Shaleoko...
[02:39:37] <Jymmm> moving
[02:39:38] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVRXTZdxo3E
[02:40:12] <Jymmm> being built (looooooooooooooong)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy6A3Mif0QY
[02:40:12] <XXCoder1> lol like the intro
[02:40:34] <Jymmm> yeah, the ntro was pretty good
[02:40:53] <Jymmm> I dont like the thickness of the "end plates"
[02:41:11] <XXCoder1> looks quite thin
[02:41:24] <Jymmm> But, other than that, really cant bitch baout it
[02:41:58] <Jymmm> totally adjustable
[02:42:06] <PetefromTn_> we still talking about that Shapeoko piece of shit? ;)
[02:42:35] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: what makes it a POS ?
[02:42:48] <PetefromTn_> is it yours?
[02:42:53] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: what makes it a POS ?
[02:43:01] <PetefromTn_> is it yours?
[02:43:10] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: Yeah, thats what I thought
[02:43:21] <PetefromTn_> then it's freakin' marvelous!
[02:43:30] <PetefromTn_> ;)
[02:44:12] <PetefromTn_> what are you going to do with it?
[02:57:05] <XXCoder1> bah
[02:57:09] <XXCoder1> can't find my grinder
[02:57:21] <XXCoder1> so I cant modify my motor mounts to have groove for screw
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[03:00:34] <PetefromTn_> what kind of grinder?
[03:00:46] <XXCoder1> metal hand grinder
[03:00:56] <XXCoder1> dont need to be very precise
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[03:12:35] <archivist> t12, no idea
[03:21:33] <t12> hm
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[06:43:25] <Deejay> moin
[06:49:28] <Jymmm> howdy Deejay
[06:49:43] <XXCoder1> yo
[07:00:33] <XXCoder1> holy crap
[07:00:41] <XXCoder1> a sec
[07:01:19] <XXCoder1> http://hackaday.com/2015/05/13/printing-photorealistic-images-on-3d-objects/#more-155318
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[07:12:56] <harold> you guys have any opinion on the tormach pcnc 770? for about $7000, it seems decent right? -
http://www.tormach.com/product_pcnc_770_main.html
[07:13:19] <MrSunshine> that is some cool stuff right there =)
[07:13:22] <XXCoder1> interesting machine
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[07:13:35] <XXCoder1> I saw em at old training job
[07:13:42] <XXCoder1> its quite effective for small jobs
[07:13:53] <XXCoder1> ironically you can get bigger for less
[07:14:10] <XXCoder1> used ones though
[07:14:12] <harold> XXCoder1: that particular model of tormach (the pcnc 770)?
[07:14:29] <XXCoder1> yup that machine
[07:14:34] <harold> oh, interesting, I wonder if I can get a pcnc770 used...
[07:14:35] <XXCoder1> never had chance to run it though
[07:15:06] <XXCoder1> so cant really say its awesome or whatever
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[07:22:11] <harold> the page says: 26" x 8" Table
[07:22:39] <harold> does that basically mean that the x-y dimensions of a part i can mill are those? that is what the word 'table' implies, yeah?
[07:23:01] <XXCoder1> yeah
[07:23:13] <XXCoder1> workspace is 16"x8"x(unknown)"
[07:23:32] <XXCoder1> looking at machine I guess z can be in very least 3 inches
[07:23:38] <XXCoder1> definitely more
[07:23:56] <XXCoder1> z depends a lot on tool length
[07:24:16] <XXCoder1> *26" lol sorry on typo
[07:26:29] <XXCoder1> http://www.wired.com/2015/05/future-wind-turbines-no-blades/
[07:26:31] <XXCoder1> amazing
[07:26:45] <XXCoder1> wonder if I can build one lol (assuming I has actual skills)
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[07:56:03] <MattyMatt> get jacques cousteau's boat, and sail it up and down the harbour pulling a chain
[07:57:09] <MattyMatt> if you can do sails without canvas, you can do windmills without blades. it stands to reason
[07:57:29] <XXCoder1> :P
[07:58:43] <MattyMatt> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Large-Job-Lot-of-Measuring-Equipment-Engineering-Tools-Micrometers-v/311362145768
[07:59:26] <MattyMatt> dunno if I'm ever gonna be serious enough to need that many mics
[08:00:00] <XXCoder1> interesting
[08:00:03] <XXCoder1> scaling sizes
[08:00:07] <XXCoder1> from one in to more
[08:00:24] <XXCoder1> I only has one 1" one
[08:00:41] <XXCoder1> 2 calipers (one now retired, being chinese shit one)
[08:01:15] <MattyMatt> same here. if it doesn't fit on the lathe, why measure it? :)
[08:01:33] <XXCoder1> well measure your head very accurately lol
[08:01:43] <MattyMatt> I need a longer caliper
[08:01:50] <XXCoder1> me too
[08:02:01] <XXCoder1> 6 inches isnt enough. (thats what she said too)
[08:02:09] <MattyMatt> http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-01409A-Electronic-Conversion-Stainless/dp/B000EJUBBU/
[08:02:26] <MattyMatt> that's about as good as prices get for a 12"
[08:02:31] <XXCoder1> cheap
[08:02:40] <MattyMatt> (also, wss)
[08:03:49] <XXCoder1> mitytoyo one 40 inches one is $1,7400
[08:03:55] <XXCoder1> -0
[08:04:20] <XXCoder1> I used even larger one, it cost $10k lol
[08:05:08] <MattyMatt> does it adjust for relativity effects?
[08:05:21] <XXCoder1> lol
[08:05:33] <XXCoder1> it was large indeed, I think 5 feet
[08:05:37] <XXCoder1> or was it 4
[08:07:22] <XXCoder1> interesting
http://ecatalog.mitutoyo.com/CERA-Caliper-Checker-Series-515-C1617.aspx
[08:07:33] <XXCoder1> I wonder if thats how companies cerified tools I use
[08:08:16] <XXCoder1> on amazon its 4.5k ouch!
[08:12:31] <MattyMatt> with sufficient employees that'd pay for itself. 1000x $6 caliper with $4.5 worth of calibration inhouse
[08:12:52] <XXCoder1> they do have bunch of in-house tools
[08:12:59] <XXCoder1> as well as employee bought tools.
[08:13:05] <XXCoder1> my two tools was certified
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[08:47:56] <Valen> so what motors are people matching up with the mesa 8i20?
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[12:50:32] * JT-Shop needs to make a snake resistant blue bird house now
[12:53:48] <skunkworks> wow - hard core snakes
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[13:15:06] <JT-Shop> Black snakes can climb real well and a favorite food is bird eggs
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[13:19:53] <Tom_itx> sunny & 61°F
[13:20:02] <Tom_itx> rain the rest of the week
[13:23:37] <JT-Shop> rain sun rain sun rain etc. here
[13:27:20] <jthornton> expanding html docs
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/html/
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[14:08:32] <zeeshan|2> looks good jt
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[14:54:32] <zeeshan|2> is it a holiday in usa
[14:54:32] <zeeshan|2> ?
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[15:00:47] <cradek> zeeshan|2: next monday is a us holiday
[15:00:53] <cradek> 25th
[15:01:18] <moorbo> friggen germany and holidays
[15:01:43] <zeeshan|2> ah
[15:01:55] <moorbo> oh
[15:02:02] <moorbo> it's a holiday in germany too
[15:02:04] <moorbo> I missed the us part
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[15:13:38] <roycroft> we have hardly any holidays, so please don't complain about them
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[15:40:22] * JT-Shop wonders why free PLC software would care what your name and company name is...
[15:41:12] <archivist> no such thing as a free lunch
[15:42:35] <archivist> trying to get you on a mailing list mebe
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[16:05:36] <CaptHindsight> I think people are already taking off for vacations
[16:05:50] <CaptHindsight> overlapping with memorial day
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[16:13:56] <jdh> JT: what free plc software?
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[17:33:22] <JT-Shop> Automation Direct Click
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[17:53:53] <Tom_itx> uneventful morning here it seems
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[18:05:23] <skunkworks> Don't say that!
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[18:24:39] <Tom_itx> pcw_home any idea how soon the 7i90 will be in stock?
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[18:59:57] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: one day AFTER you really needed it ;)
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[19:09:42] <jthornton> I can't believe my wife picked the uncut version of Das Boot out of the library to watch Saturday... we finished watching it last night 2 dvds
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[19:11:02] <jdh> I just got a $5k plc software license
[19:11:24] <jdh> email address for a free one seems painless
[19:11:48] <jthornton> AB?
[19:11:59] <jdh> GE
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[19:12:19] <jdh> Proficy. stupid name
[19:12:23] <jthornton> Click didn't ask for anything but a name and a company
[19:13:00] <Jymmm> free spam email addresses...
http://mailinator.com/
[19:13:11] <jthornton> I've never programmed a GE... I've done AD, AB, Panasonic and some I don't even remember
[19:14:07] <PetefromTn_> I would like to understand how to program a PLC... its greek to me
[19:14:26] <jthornton> it's easy just remember last on wins
[19:14:59] <jthornton> or never have the same output as an out more than once
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[19:15:38] <PetefromTn_> Yeah that is what I understand but I have never even seen one in person other than the LinuxCNC Classic Ladder sim.
[19:15:42] <jthornton> PetefromTn_, you can use Classic Ladder
[19:16:38] <jthornton> come by the house I have them all over the place, on my desk, on shelves, in boxes etc.
[19:16:40] <Jymmm> jthornton@spambooger.com
[19:16:50] <PetefromTn_> LOL
[19:17:07] <Jymmm> http://jthornton.spambooger.com/
[19:17:10] <PetefromTn_> what are you doing with them all?
[19:18:11] <jthornton> I use them for my work
[19:18:31] <Jymmm> how weird
[19:19:26] <Jymmm> Eh, this works though...
http://jthorton.mailinator.com/
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[19:26:53] <jdh> you can buy a dev one cheap. or any AD one cheap
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[21:00:18] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:13:44] <Valen> So, what motors are people using with the 8I23?
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[21:38:15] <micges> Valen: 8i20?
[21:39:17] <Valen> ...probably lol
[21:40:11] * furrywolf needs a 7i76e
[21:40:19] <furrywolf> I was going to work on my enclosure more today, but it's drizzling.
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[21:40:50] <micges> 7i76e is great, 7i77e will be greather
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[21:41:25] <micges> Valen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HdikHRXnAs
[21:41:47] <Valen> heh yeah I saw that one
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[21:42:03] <Valen> I don't think I want to see the hal for that one lol
[21:42:11] <furrywolf> is great? do you have one spare? :)
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[21:43:13] <micges> got just one for hostmot2 driver improvements/tests
[21:43:34] * furrywolf has been wanting one for roughly forever, but has exactly no spare cash
[21:43:59] <Valen> oh, the 8i20 is only run by serial not the standard 50 pin interface?
[21:44:10] <micges> Valen: yes it's quite complex hal
[21:44:14] <micges> yes
[21:45:39] <Valen> hmm, so that chain is probably going to be amongst the better ways of running the whole thing then?
[21:45:51] <Valen> though I'm not too keen on the ethernet stage in there to be honest
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[21:46:20] <micges> it's in stable working stage
[21:46:40] <micges> even with quite emc noisy machines
[21:46:50] <furrywolf> ethernet is great if, like me, you have a small portable mill and plan on controlling it with a laptop.
[21:47:17] <furrywolf> I'll have to try it over wifi just for the heck of it, although I suspect it's a very bad idea. :)
[21:47:22] <Valen> we are planning on pouring a new slab for it that weighs 1000kg ;->
[21:47:45] <micges> Valen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg-ZH-gYd7w
[21:47:46] <Valen> don't you still have latency issues even if you are over ethernet?
[21:48:21] <Valen> (wrt using laptop for control of servo machine)
[21:48:53] <furrywolf> my laptop has excellent latency as long as I don't do anything that triggers any of its internal power management, or initialize any hardware video acceleration after starting linuxcnc.
[21:49:07] <micges> you must carefully choose hw for ethernet, and latest firmwares have dpll which corrects timing even with quite large latencies
[21:49:09] <furrywolf> I'm using it with a parport bob with, if I remember right, a 15us base thread.
[21:49:17] <Valen> yeah opening new openGL stuff seems bad
[21:49:21] <Valen> dpll?
[21:49:59] <furrywolf> _any_ power-management-related activity causes a many-ms hiccup... even changing screen brightness.
[21:51:11] <micges> Valen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-locked_loop
[21:52:29] <Valen> I know what a pll is ;-> I'm not seeing how it can help with the servo thread having latency?
[21:54:11] <micges> hostmot2 components syncs with dpll timer, not with servo timer, so stepgen generation and encoder velocity estimation is not varying with latencies
[21:56:20] <micges> in 2.7 you will can enable dpll for stepgen and encoder
[21:56:42] <Valen> doesn't really feel "optimal" though
[21:57:02] <micges> that reminds me that I must test and commit fixes for this to 2.7
[21:57:04] <micges> bbl
[21:57:14] <Valen> thanks for the help
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[21:57:57] <micges> I could messed something up it's 1am here and I've got too many projects
[21:58:02] <micges> :)
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[21:58:30] <micges> if you intrested with details ask Peter
[21:58:34] <Valen> I seem to recall mesa PCI cards with serial interfaces ?
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[21:58:55] <micges> yes 5i21
[21:59:07] <micges> 12x rs422
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[21:59:19] <Valen> that sounds more my speed
[22:03:02] <micges> furrywolf: generally laptop is bad idea to control machine, but I saw few models that behaves quite stable
[22:04:39] <furrywolf> micges: I've ran the latency test for days, and as long as I don't do one of those two things, it stays low... and I get no realtime errors when running except if I set the base thread down below 10us or so...
[22:05:23] <Valen> I'd love it if you could tell the realtime warning not to trigger for the first second ;->
[22:05:43] <Valen> I get big latency spikes when opening new openGL windows, like say starting axis ;->
[22:05:48] <furrywolf> if I trigger any power management, even changing the brightness or closing the lid, it hiccups for a very, very long time. if I initialize accelerated video, such as playing a movie, it hiccups briefly. if I try running off battery, it breaks horribly - time no longer means things, apparantly. I suspect it's doing some cpu speed changing and fucking up the times badly.
[22:06:13] <furrywolf> I didn't have any problems with opengl, but I didn't try complex things. accelerated video was the only thing that caused a problem.
[22:06:32] <Valen> try starting glxgears with latency test running
[22:07:03] <furrywolf> no problem at all, even starting multiple glxgears with it running.
[22:07:24] <Valen> interesting, when I do it I get 30K spikes
[22:07:24] <micges> Valen: good idea, open feature request so it won't be forgotten
[22:07:44] <Valen> micges: for what?
[22:07:58] <Valen> oh delay latency error report?
[22:07:59] <furrywolf> Valen: not triggering for the first second
[22:08:19] <micges> dealy rt warnings for one second
[22:08:31] <Valen> where should I give said feature request?
[22:08:34] <furrywolf> I have an odd laptop... an old panasonic toughbook. everything about them is odd, so odd firmware is quite possible too.
[22:08:51] <micges> www.sf.net/projects/emc
[22:09:19] <Valen> A tick box to allow for RT warnings to continue being displayed would be nice too
[22:09:28] <micges> tickets-> feature request
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[22:09:55] <Valen> to my mind that should be on by default (if you are always getting RT errors its something you should know about, and something could change to cause that to happen without you knowing)
[22:10:04] <Valen> feature request incoming
[22:10:09] <Akfreak-iPad> guys I need some help
[22:10:24] <Akfreak-iPad> have a tinyG v8
[22:10:49] <furrywolf> that I agree with. some kind of periodic "you've had 232423 realtime errors in the last minute" would be a good idea. several people here have had problems with poor machine control, and on questioning, they got a realtime error at startup, but they didn't realize it was an ongoing thing that was screwing up timing.
[22:11:01] <Akfreak-iPad> does the FW define dual y axis steppers
[22:12:02] <furrywolf> I have no idea what that is, or how it relates to linuxcnc.
[22:12:06] <Akfreak-iPad> building a OX and it has a dual PSU setup?? how's that setup
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[22:12:11] <Akfreak-iPad> of snap
[22:12:26] <Akfreak-iPad> baro ng channel
[22:12:33] <Akfreak-iPad> wrong channel
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[22:12:46] <furrywolf> ... ok
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[22:14:19] <Akfreak-iPad> I put in #emc for CNC zone and get this channel
[22:14:36] <Valen> emc is what linuxcnc used to be called
[22:14:45] <Akfreak-iPad> darn google
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[22:15:05] <Akfreak-iPad> so the tinyG is some unknown POS controller?
[22:15:32] <Valen> dunno, got a link to something about it?
[22:15:39] <Akfreak-iPad> brb
[22:15:54] <furrywolf> until they got threatened by a random new company, but lawyers are expensive, so it's easier to change your name than prove you're right.
[22:16:14] <Akfreak-iPad> https://github.com/synthetos/TinyG/wiki/Connecting-TinyG
[22:16:20] <Valen> sometimes I wish I was a billionair
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[22:17:23] <Valen> looks like it is something that eats gcode
[22:17:25] <furrywolf> that's how big-vs-small works in court... even if you win, you still lose.
[22:18:00] <Valen> 99% sure it was search engine optimisation they were after
[22:18:28] <Valen> which is funny because I bet most of the results for searching for their brand and cars or whatever it is are going to be things about how they are asshats
[22:19:07] <Akfreak-iPad> I wish they had an IRC for the project, buts like like 2 years since any dev on that project
[22:19:19] <Valen> Akfreak-iPad: looks like that thing is basically doing the same thing as emc does
[22:19:28] <furrywolf> trim pots rotate between 8pm and 4pm, eh? is this one of those 24-hour wall clocks? :)
[22:19:41] <Valen> but on an aurdino or whatever rather than in a PC
[22:19:42] <Akfreak-iPad> yep 8 and 4
[22:20:03] <furrywolf> Akfreak-iPad: my point is the PM. 12-hour clocks don't have am/pm on the dial. lol
[22:20:21] <Valen> wifey's watch does
[22:20:22] <Akfreak-iPad> this is my first CNC build, but have done many Rambo 3d printer pupils
[22:20:26] <Akfreak-iPad> build
[22:20:28] <Akfreak-iPad> s
[22:20:41] <Valen> but it doesn't make an difference to the angle lol
[22:20:45] <Akfreak-iPad> lol
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[22:21:03] <Akfreak-iPad> yeah kind of silly
[22:21:07] <furrywolf> ... it speaks json? lol
[22:21:44] <Akfreak-iPad> I used .json to create 3d models for gui's
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[22:22:20] <Akfreak-iPad> for the CleanFlight project
[22:22:39] <furrywolf> but, yeah, that looks like it speaks gcode directly, and does not in any way work with linuxcnc.
[22:23:04] <Valen> how did you get to here Akfreak-iPad?
[22:23:38] <Akfreak-iPad> how do I define dual y axis motors? in the FW config. h file?
[22:23:51] <furrywolf> although you might submit that as a feature request... a hardware driver that outputs stupidly basic g-code to be processed by a hardware controller. someone was in here the other day asking about using another hardware controller than only handled lines natively and relied on software to break arcs etc up into lines...
[22:23:53] <Akfreak-iPad> google.. I saw a forum post
[22:24:49] <Valen> hmm, I'll have to run a latency test on one of my customers servers at some point ;->
[22:24:57] <Akfreak-iPad> thus IRC is very active, so I hoped someone might help me understand a few basic things
[22:25:01] <Valen> Dell T1100's are cheap ;->
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[22:25:36] <andypugh> Akfreak-iPad: We know how to fo dual-Y in LinuxCNC, but no idea how to do it in Tiny-G
[22:26:02] <MacGyverX> For TinyG (or TinyG2) you can either make the changes in the FW (settings/what_ever_config there are a couple examples in there) or you can send the changes via the console.
[22:26:04] <andypugh> But the simplest way would be in hardware, wire both stepper drivers to the same step-dir outputs
[22:26:22] <Valen> btw the sourceforge page on opening a new ticket says to look
http://www.linuxcnc.org/content/view/48/13/lang,en before doing so, but that is 404
[22:26:34] <Akfreak-iPad> thx guys
[22:26:56] <andypugh> Valen: Where is the broken link?
[22:27:10] <Valen> https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/feature-requests/new/
[22:27:15] <furrywolf> or wire both motors to one driver, if you have a sufficiently beefy driver. I'm fairly sure that one isn't, however.
[22:27:33] <Valen> if he has enough voltage he could wire them in series no?
[22:27:44] <Valen> that'd limit the RPM rather than the torque
[22:27:53] <andypugh> Ah, right, I can’t fix broken links on Sourceforge.
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[22:28:08] <Akfreak-iPad> also I have dual 24v PSU's
[22:28:12] <furrywolf> it has a fixed 24v supply voltage, so my assumption would be never enough voltage. :)
[22:28:15] <furrywolf> I have 56V and I want more.
[22:28:32] <Valen> I'm thinking of using 8i20's furrywolf
[22:28:35] <Valen> we have 240v mains here
[22:28:42] <Akfreak-iPad> one for the spindle one for the steppers?
[22:28:51] <Valen> so bridge rectifier + beefy caps = ~380 volts or so ;->
[22:29:01] <furrywolf> lol
[22:29:04] <furrywolf> my drives have a 80
[22:29:14] <furrywolf> my drives have a 80V limit, and I used 75V parts elsewhere.
[22:29:17] <furrywolf> I might try 70V...
[22:29:32] <Valen> if its steppers it's probably not terrible
[22:30:08] <furrywolf> I top out around 1.8in/sec... need to use fancier leadscrews (machine not worth it), change belting (too much work), or raise the voltage...
[22:30:12] <Akfreak-iPad> it's an openbuilds OX CNC but bigger bed
[22:30:39] <Valen> dude, ballscrews
[22:30:42] <Valen> always ballscrews
[22:30:45] <Akfreak-iPad> it has g3 belts
[22:31:10] <furrywolf> see part about machine not worth it. :P
[22:31:29] <furrywolf> it's a chinese machine I got cheaply because it got knocked over with a forklift and bent in various directions.
[22:31:41] <Valen> linearmotionbearings2008 on ebay does ballscrews pretty cheap
[22:32:14] <furrywolf> I had to bend parts back into shape with the oxytorch...
[22:33:20] <zeeshan|2> andypugh: alive?
[22:34:02] <andypugh> Valen: You probably want to control the PSU with HAL. I did it in hardware but think the other way is better. 1) Don’t allow the machine to turn on unless the 8i20 bus voltage is low. 2) When the machine turns off, short-out the caps with a relay and a big resistor. The reason for 1) is that you don’t want to open the crowbar relay when there is still 300V DC through the relay.
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[22:34:38] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/A7NJRs6.png
[22:34:43] <zeeshan|2> think i can use one of these to make the barb
[22:34:53] <zeeshan|2> http://www.maritool.com/p2351/Woodruff-Keyseat-Cutter-1.250-X-.1875-Thick-%23-610/product_info.html
[22:34:58] <Valen> no admonishment to use a transformer for isolation? ;->
[22:35:25] <furrywolf> zeeshan|2: still trying to put fans in an oven? I've been repairing something with an even worse fan... a fan in an internal combustion engine cylinder.
[22:35:39] <zeeshan|2> furrywolf: nope, im using the environmental chamber as is :P
[22:35:46] <zeeshan|2> haha what
[22:35:47] <andypugh> You also want to make sure that you don’t power up the PSU with the crowbar relay closed. That leads to exploding resistors and case damage:
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/PSU
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[22:36:23] <Valen> did that punch a hole through the sheet metal?
[22:36:25] <furrywolf> my paslode impulse butane-powered nail gun has a fan inside the combustion chamber, exposed to combustion pressures and temperatures. :)
[22:36:50] <andypugh> Valen: I don’t have an isolation transformer in my machine. My PSU for my 8i20 is exactly as you describe.
[22:36:51] <Valen> what are you crowbaring?
[22:37:17] <furrywolf> it's the same idea as yours... motor on the outside, and a long, beefy bearing inside, sealing the pressure and isolating the motor from the temperature.
[22:37:33] <andypugh> Yes, a power resistor exploded violently enough to punch a hole in the case.
[22:38:01] <andypugh> I am discharging the scary 380V / 20,000 uF of caps.
[22:38:28] <Valen> R++?
[22:38:39] <furrywolf> I had a relay with 14.4V at ~infinite available current between the no and nc contact... worked great until one day it opened under a short-circuit, and formed a stable arc directly between the no and nc contacts. it stopped after there were no more contacts.
[22:38:50] <andypugh> 100W 10 ohm I think.
[22:38:52] <Valen> or were you having multiple shorts to bring the voltage down faster?
[22:39:27] <andypugh> Anything you can leave in-circuit all the time ends up either 250W or with a discharge of hours.
[22:39:53] <Valen> yeah, you wouldn't want to have anything left in it lol
[22:39:59] <andypugh> So I run a 10R 100W at 10x duty cycle for 1 second or so
[22:40:27] <furrywolf> zeeshan|2: so you're trying to machine the barbs from the end on a vertical mill, rather than turn them on a lathe?
[22:40:28] <Valen> seems like it should generally be ok
[22:40:51] <Valen> so what happened?
[22:40:53] <zeeshan|2> yes
[22:41:05] <zeeshan|2> using circular interpolation
[22:41:07] <zeeshan|2> with a taper
[22:41:08] <zeeshan|2> lol
[22:41:09] <furrywolf> why not tap the holes and use off-the-shelf barbs?
[22:41:14] <zeeshan|2> i dont want to
[22:41:17] <zeeshan|2> one piece is better
[22:41:36] <furrywolf> no, it's not. one piece means you have to make a new one when you mush the barb taking tubing off. :P
[22:41:39] <andypugh> Yes, it’s fine, as long as you don’t weld the relay contacts by trying to break at 300V then turn the power back on with the vrowbar resistor across the mains through the welded relay.
[22:41:54] <zeeshan|2> furrywolf: yes, will do that in this application
[22:41:55] <zeeshan|2> if that happens
[22:42:12] <Valen> ahh, so one relay stuck and the other then blew?
[22:42:15] <andypugh> Hence, use HAL to check 8i20 bus voltage, and HAL inputs to look at relay states.
[22:42:29] <furrywolf> what about a boring bar in the mill head, pointing in instead of out?
[22:42:35] <andypugh> It was the resistor that blew .
[22:42:42] <furrywolf> or out, I guess.
[22:42:51] <Valen> but there were still 2 relays involved?
[22:43:08] <zeeshan|2> furrywolf: damn it man! :P
[22:43:12] <zeeshan|2> i wanna use the milling cutter
[22:43:16] <furrywolf> or you could use the woodruff cutter. it'll work if you make a creative enough toolpath. :)
[22:43:16] <zeeshan|2> just wanna know if someone has done it before :D
[22:43:26] <zeeshan|2> trying to use what i have
[22:43:29] <zeeshan|2> with minimal time
[22:43:30] * furrywolf would tap
[22:43:42] <zeeshan|2> theres not enough room for a tap
[22:43:45] <zeeshan|2> 1/8 npt is too big
[22:43:54] <zeeshan|2> id need to make a custom fitting with a restrictor
[22:43:59] <zeeshan|2> if i made the overall fitting larger too
[22:44:00] <furrywolf> I have a few hundred 10-32 barbs
[22:44:12] <zeeshan|2> will run tapered only! :P
[22:44:16] <furrywolf> 10-32 threads on one end, different tubing sizes on the other end.
[22:44:24] <Valen> I think I'll try for a DPDT relay in that case, it should be able to negate that failure mode without involving more software
[22:44:27] <zeeshan|2> straight thread?
[22:44:29] <zeeshan|2> ew :P
[22:44:30] <furrywolf> yes
[22:44:34] <Valen> sound fair?
[22:44:56] <andypugh> Valen: Yes, one relay is operated by LinuxCNC and turns on the power, and when unpowered puts the crowbat resistor in circuit. The other relay is on a 555 timer (use HAL!) that initially charges the caps through a second resistor so tha the surge current doesn’t blow my breakers.
[22:45:18] <Valen> ahh, interesting I was thinking about how to do that
[22:45:52] <Valen> how much did your caps cost?
[22:46:02] <furrywolf> 10-32 is standard for small pneumatics components where 1/8npt is too large.
[22:46:10] <zeeshan|2> how does it lock in place
[22:46:21] <zeeshan|2> i'd need it to be a 1/4" barb
[22:46:27] <andypugh> So, HAL needs to disable user-enable-in intil 8i20 bus voltage is low. Then needs to operate the relay that bypasses the chargine resistor when the bus voltage is high.
[22:46:56] <furrywolf> 1/4 barb for 1/4 ID tubing or 1/4 barb for 1/4 OD tubing?
[22:47:01] <andypugh> Valen: Thet cost the original purchaser about A$300 each.
[22:47:07] <zeeshan|2> 1/4 for OD tubing
[22:47:19] <Valen> and you have a large number of them I'm guessing lol
[22:47:23] <furrywolf> and do you want shiny push-fit or plain ol' barb?
[22:47:32] <zeeshan|2> i want the barb style i have in the pic
[22:47:44] <furrywolf> http://www.bimba.com/Products-and-Cad/Hydraulic-Actuators/Inch/Accessories/FittingsPort-AdaptorsPins/Fittings/Barbed-Fitting/ 10-32 for 1/4 OD tube
[22:47:58] <zeeshan|2> how does it lock in place though\?
[22:48:10] <furrywolf> you tighten it?
[22:48:19] <zeeshan|2> this is on an engine
[22:48:29] <zeeshan|2> that stuff will come loose
[22:48:35] <zeeshan|2> i always use taper or loctite
[22:48:38] <zeeshan|2> but this seals coolant
[22:48:42] <zeeshan|2> so i dont know how well that'll work
[22:48:43] <furrywolf> you tighten it after applying loctite?
[22:48:51] <zeeshan|2> loctite doesnt make the greatest sealer
[22:48:56] <furrywolf> what the heck are you running cooling through that's so tiny you need miniature barbs?
[22:49:03] <furrywolf> the o-ring provides the sealing
[22:49:04] <zeeshan|2> they are vent lines
[22:49:20] <furrywolf> the ones I have have a little fiber washer that seals well
[22:49:29] <zeeshan|2> i wanted to run viton
[22:49:40] <zeeshan|2> i dont have those fittings either
[22:49:43] <zeeshan|2> and im trying to get it done tonight :)
[22:49:54] <furrywolf> lol
[22:50:13] <furrywolf> you'll probably need to manually code the toolpath for using a woodruff cutter to make hose barbs, but have fun.
[22:50:19] <zeeshan|2> no
[22:50:22] <zeeshan|2> i can do it in mastercam easily
[22:50:31] <zeeshan|2> just need to know if you can use that type of cutter to mill this way
[22:51:02] <furrywolf> mastercam is smart enough to figure out that it'll need to use the top corner of an odd-shape cutter to cut the undercut?
[22:51:14] <zeeshan|2> you do it in 2 tool paths
[22:51:32] <zeeshan|2> ill show you after im done
[22:52:05] <furrywolf> http://www.pneumadyne.com/tube-barb-straight-connectors-p-1805-l-en.html?language=en there's some for i/4 id tube
[22:52:06] <furrywolf> 1/4
[22:52:48] <furrywolf> " Captured o-ring design provides a superior seal" could use viton, since it takes o-rings, not washers like mine. :)
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[22:53:48] <furrywolf> the cutter will work fine, if you can generate the right toolpath.
[22:56:10] <furrywolf> just be sure it isn't a project best served by rigid tapping. :P
[22:56:38] <andypugh> Valen: I bought 3 at £10 each. But none of them are quite so chap at the moment:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=peh200+450V&_osacat=4662&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xpeh200+3300uf.TRS0&_nkw=peh200+3300uf&_sacat=4662
[22:57:18] <Valen> that's not actually as large as I thought it would be to be honest
[22:57:35] <Valen> I was just going to get a stack of smaller ones from local electronics suppliers
[22:57:42] <Valen> (physically large)
[22:57:54] <furrywolf> or turn them on the lathe to a press-fit for a hole in the main part
[22:58:01] <andypugh> You want low ESR for the application, though
[22:58:16] <furrywolf> a lot of cars use press-fit barbs on the throttle body and such
[22:58:31] <Valen> a buttload in parallel should be relativley low esr
[23:00:20] <andypugh> £10 each is looking like a real bargan compared to
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cap-Alu-Elec-3300Uf-450V-Screw-/111625426979?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item19fd64d823
[23:01:52] <andypugh> Yes, a real bargain!
http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/aluminium-capacitors/3111181/
[23:02:36] <Valen> oh, don't get me wrong its a good buy
[23:02:49] <Valen> and far cheaper lol
[23:03:00] <andypugh> Don’t get _me_ wrong, I am just enjoying a gloat :-)
[23:03:13] <Valen> well thats just fine then
[23:03:24] <Valen> also being in australia nothing is ever cheep here
[23:03:31] <Valen> unless you like greasy wool ;-P
[23:03:36] <Valen> or iron ore
[23:03:54] <Valen> or basically anything else that is ripped out of the ground and not improved in any way
[23:04:05] <SpeedEvil> Valen: austrailians then
[23:04:08] <SpeedEvil> :)
[23:04:11] <andypugh> Opals are pretty. :-)
[23:04:43] <Valen> bet you a coke we ship them somewhere as ugly rocks for cents on the dollar
[23:04:59] <Valen> then somebody else polishes them and sells them for $$$$
[23:05:20] <Valen> I wish parts suppliers would let you graph stuff
[23:05:34] <Valen> Capacitance vs price
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[23:05:39] <Valen> that would be usefull
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[23:06:44] <Valen> also andypugh
http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/aluminium-capacitors/1084986/
[23:06:56] <Valen> perhaps not that low ESR though
[23:07:07] <andypugh> 40V….
[23:07:14] <Valen> DOH!
[23:07:20] <Valen> I ticked 400v dangnabbit it
[23:08:57] <Valen> I was thinking of ripping the caps out of all the ATX power supplies I had floating around
[23:10:44] <andypugh> I wonder what the best source is? Maybe UPS-es with dead batteries?
[23:11:17] <Valen> mmmm, dunno the ones I've looked at didn't seem to have that much capactance in them
[23:11:18] <Tom_itx> motherboards
[23:11:27] <Valen> they are all low voltage Tom_itx
[23:11:33] <Valen> what motors are you using andypugh?
[23:11:37] <Tom_itx> what v are you wanting?
[23:11:41] <Valen> 400v
[23:12:10] <andypugh> Valen: Lenze 750w 300V servos
[23:12:24] <Valen> fancy, new or ebay?
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[23:12:39] <andypugh> eBay, £50 for three of them.
[23:12:46] <Valen> god I hate you
[23:12:51] <Valen> in a nice way
[23:13:09] <furrywolf> I love my ultrasonic cleaner. when I get some money, I am definitely getting a bigger one.
[23:13:19] <andypugh> Then £750 for the milliing machine to use them, £120 for the connectors to attach cables…. A funny sort of bargain.
[23:13:29] <Tom_itx> what capacitance?
[23:13:53] <Valen> Tom_itx: lots +- 20%
[23:14:34] <Valen> andypugh:
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=Lenze+750w+300V+servo&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.X750w++servo.TRS0&_nkw=750w++servo&_sacat=0
[23:14:44] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-NEW-KENDEIL-400V-820UF-35x60mm-LOW-ESR-HI-END-TUBE-AMP-AUDIO-CAPS-105C-/181459652521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a3fd68fa9
[23:15:26] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CRAFTSMAN/361274855352 I got one of those at the scrapyard, bought it with some scrap metal I was buying. it looked like shit. I had to get the thumbwheel glowing with the torch before I could get the screw to turn. took it apart, tossed it in the ultrasonic cleaner... it looks like I just bought it from craftsman.
[23:16:39] <SpeedEvil> That looks handy
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[23:16:45] <andypugh> Valen: Bigger brothers of
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331508638936
[23:16:48] <furrywolf> that's what I said!
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[23:17:14] <Valen> andypugh: note the $ on that one still ;->
[23:17:25] <furrywolf> anything advertised as a high-end tube amp audio cap is either a) fake, or b) a ripoff.
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[23:18:04] <Valen> hmmm, the power company may not like it
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[23:18:11] <furrywolf> fakes are quite common, ranging from relabeling a crap chinese cap, to sticking a random tiny cap inside a large empty can...
[23:18:17] <andypugh> As well as £120 for the connectors I also had to write the driver for Mesa 3-phase PWM, the driver for the 7i49 resolver card and the bldc HAL component. All in all it was a funny sort of bargain :-)
[23:18:32] <Valen> but given all the stuff aimed at 110v power, I wonder about half wave rectifying our mains
[23:18:50] <Valen> andypugh: yeah but all that other stuff is good for me so you get warm fuzzies ;->
[23:19:13] <furrywolf> http://www.1000uf.com/ipaware/img/fake%20capacitor.jpg
[23:19:20] <Valen> that one you linked is AC isn't it? not having magnets in it?
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[23:20:09] <andypugh> Permanent magnet AC servo. Resolver-feedback brushless
[23:20:59] <Valen> calling things AC and DC really starts to get not that pointfull at some point lol
[23:21:42] <furrywolf> a brushless dc motor an a synchronous permanent magnet ac motor have a lot in common... :P
[23:21:59] <andypugh> Valen: This giy has some interesting second-hand motor/drive combos:
http://stores.ebay.com.au/faparts/
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[23:24:21] <Valen> what is your mill andypugh?
[23:24:30] <Valen> got pics/videos of it in operatoion?
[23:24:48] <Valen> I haven't been that involved since you first started writing the bldc code
[23:24:53] <andypugh> Nice set of three here:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PANASONIC-1KW-AC-SERVO-DRIVER-MOTOR-MSD103A2V-MSM102A1D-3-AXIS-CNC-ROUTER-/261285057668
[23:25:22] <Valen> more than $50 though ;-P
[23:25:48] <andypugh> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0celdfZmkA is my little Harrison Mill.
[23:26:28] <Valen> what acceleration can you pull?
[23:26:40] <andypugh> I am not sure.
[23:26:52] <Valen> is there meant to be a bearing mount on the end of that ballscrew?
[23:27:22] <andypugh> It’s a static screw.
[23:27:31] <Valen> I was just looking at that
[23:27:34] <andypugh> I put an end-plate on eventually.
[23:27:42] <Valen> you really are a glutton for punishment aren't you
[23:27:44] <furrywolf> ... mailman just dropped off the twistlock plug I bought on ebay. opened the box. the bubblewrap has bloody fingerprints on it.
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[23:28:41] <Valen> ?
[23:29:02] <norias> !
[23:29:14] <andypugh> Valen: This is the end-plate casting, with integrated tightening and height measurement station:
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/HarrisonMill?noredirect=1#5931801741237964866
[23:31:06] <andypugh> furrywolf: Like literally fingerprints that are made of blood?
[23:31:26] <furrywolf> yes
[23:31:35] <andypugh> Eeew!
[23:31:45] <furrywolf> yes
[23:31:53] <Valen> andypugh: nice
[23:32:05] <Valen> furrywolf: eww
[23:32:08] <furrywolf> my assumption would be they cut themselves packaging it and either didn't notice or didn't care.
[23:32:26] <furrywolf> bubble wrap and box now in garbage, and hands washed. heh
[23:32:52] <andypugh> You are very unlikley to catch anything from dried blood.
[23:35:40] <furrywolf> I'll head to the scrapyard tomorrow and pick up some wire, now that I have the special twistlock to fit my power box.
[23:36:32] <Rab> Viral hepatitis, maybe.
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[23:37:39] <furrywolf> I'll wash my hands again before using my vibrator, then. :P
[23:38:03] * furrywolf wanders off to build fence post auger bit adapter
[23:39:18] <Valen> andypugh: did you do the casting yourself or something
[23:39:54] <andypugh> I made the pattern, but it was made by a cheap foundry I know of (£20)
[23:40:08] <Valen> I hate you a little bit more now lol
[23:40:14] <Valen> that would be $600 here
[23:40:31] <Valen> was it you who did the fire trucks?
[23:40:44] <andypugh> Have you checked? You might be surprised.
[23:41:01] <andypugh> I play about with a 1916 Dennis, yes.
[23:41:02] <Valen> yeah, they all have minimum orders of about that
[23:41:28] <Valen> might be worth asking around again for some bits we are doing now though I guess
[23:41:36] <Valen> (making a gantry mill)
[23:41:45] <Valen> well router
[23:43:36] <andypugh> For a foundry using sand moulds and with only one pattern provided there really is no saving in making bulk quantities. Every casting is a one-off so having a minimum order is silly.
[23:43:51] <Valen> admin costs I guess
[23:44:11] <Valen> companies in australia just don't like dealing with end users
[23:44:14] <Valen> we are too whiny
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[23:44:47] <andypugh> Google finds:
http://ironfoundry.com.au.223-27-30-180.iadsaustralia.com.au
[23:47:15] <andypugh> Right, time to sleep here
[23:47:19] <andypugh> Night all
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[23:58:23] <Valen> http://hackaday.com/2015/05/16/2-stroke-engine-too-beautiful-to-behold/#more-156033
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