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[00:01:14] <furrywolf> I guess I heard something about them only selling one brand of cell service now.
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[01:14:24] <witnit> ohhh cell phones..
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[01:15:52] <witnit> i have this servo system all beautiful and working great and they gave me a 40-1 gearbox to bolt to it for them and tune it in.
[01:16:12] <witnit> so sad.. like my work is in vain , the gearbox is taiwan with a mile of backlash in it
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[01:17:44] <tjtr33> a mail list msg from machine kit talked about a 2 nic beagleboard making ethercat comms easier.
[01:17:51] <tjtr33> the taiwanese site ( passed thry google translate ) is very interesting
[01:17:52] <tjtr33> https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mapacode.tw%2F
[01:18:13] <tjtr33> i'd seen the 7 axis sink edm before at TimTos, very well built
[01:19:01] <tjtr33> andy pointed out that ethercat is not GPL tho
[01:19:13] <XXCoder> largest I ever seen was 23 axis
[01:19:23] <XXCoder> but then around 8 was ooling related
[01:19:26] <XXCoder> tooling
[01:31:15] <CaptHindsight> 12 axes
http://www.rayshousehelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/axes.jpg :)
[01:31:23] <XXCoder> lol
[01:31:41] <XXCoder> so whos the axe murderer you took picture of collection of?
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[02:40:45] <zeeshan|2> you guys lied to me
[02:40:51] <zeeshan|2> you can machine ptfe easily with carbide inserts
[02:40:58] <zeeshan|2> !!
[02:41:19] <XXCoder> ohh I lied without saying anything about it
[02:41:21] <zeeshan|2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIqib3j1otk
[02:41:22] <zeeshan|2> haha
[02:41:25] <XXCoder> my lying skills upgraded!
[02:42:03] <XXCoder> wonder if it can cut just gets dull; fast or something?
[02:42:42] <zeeshan|2> whatcha mean
[02:43:01] <XXCoder> well some materials would wear tool faster
[02:43:08] <XXCoder> for example fiberglass
[02:43:12] <XXCoder> it sure kills tools
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[02:44:26] <zeeshan|2> when you drill this
[02:44:28] <zeeshan|2> you can just rape it
[02:44:29] <zeeshan|2> lol
[02:44:34] <zeeshan|2> cant feel any resistance
[02:45:03] <XXCoder> cut some more and see if it gets dull any faster than usual
[02:45:23] <zeeshan|2> i made 12 bushings
[02:46:34] <XXCoder> cool
[02:47:07] <XXCoder> lol
http://www.cracked.com/photoplasty_1474_20-brilliant-background-jokes-you-missed-in-movies-tv/
[02:47:13] <XXCoder> check out #11
[02:48:14] <zeeshan|2> lol
[02:50:31] <XXCoder> wow #1
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[02:57:53] <XXCoder> man I really need to work on mjy cnc router
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[03:25:40] <XXCoder> oh mame just went open source
[03:25:49] <XXCoder> always thoght it already was. guess not
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[03:29:56] <XXCoder> HMM I got a cnc idea
[03:30:22] <XXCoder> put all axes on frame, so it can be placed anywhere on large surface
[03:30:27] <XXCoder> so it can cut stuff
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[03:30:50] <XXCoder> if you guys di kickstarter and its big success
[03:31:03] <XXCoder> get me a good cnc mill :)
[03:32:36] <renesis> heh, section cups onto the work?
[03:32:44] <XXCoder> whats wrong with clamps
[03:32:49] <renesis> might as well just make a robot with an endmill face
[03:33:01] <XXCoder> yeah theres cnc spider
[03:33:06] <XXCoder> but expensive and complex
[03:33:09] <renesis> well then you gotta drill into the work
[03:33:34] <renesis> i think burger place pulled phone off the hook man this is frustrating
[03:33:52] <XXCoder> you ever seen the cnc spider?
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[03:35:08] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2 PTFE is like cutting butter
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[03:35:41] <XXCoder> renesis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quN37YskoaM
[03:35:57] <XXCoder> overly complex but cool
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[03:40:04] <nema34> hi
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[03:41:45] <nema34> I've tried now all the post processor that have on the linux cnc. forum that releted to solidcam.
[03:42:14] <nema34> all of them make code that use M98
[03:42:24] <nema34> http://pastebin.com/fgaNnFKE
[03:43:05] <XXCoder> m98 = function call
[03:43:24] <nema34> I know,
[03:43:36] <XXCoder> your device dont support it or what?
[03:43:45] <nema34> but linux cnc not recognise it.
[03:43:54] <cradek> that's not how linuxcnc does subroutines
[03:44:00] <cradek> you must use a proper postprocessor
[03:44:04] <cradek> it must match your control
[03:44:05] <norias> hah
[03:44:17] <norias> might i suggest
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[03:44:23] <norias> using some version of HSMExpress
[03:44:33] <nema34> this is made by posts that publish on the furom.
[03:44:33] <norias> their post processing system is quite nice
[03:45:16] <nema34> http://linuxcnc.org/media/kunena/attachments/legacy/files/FANUC.zip
[03:45:32] <nema34> this is the last post that Ive tried.
[03:45:48] <Tom_itx> find one that says linuxcnc or emc
[03:45:55] <cradek> I'm guessing from the filename that's for ... fanuc
[03:46:00] <Tom_itx> :)
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[03:46:12] <nema34> it is modified by robo-dan.
[03:46:22] <nema34> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/31-cad-cam/1307-solidcam-to-emc2-post-processor?limitstart=0#19846
[03:47:01] <nema34> robo-dan - "Here's is my modified Solidcam to EMC2 post processor"
[03:47:47] <Tom_itx> fresh boarder with 8 posts
[03:47:48] <Tom_itx> hmm
[03:48:07] <Tom_itx> but then i probably have less than that
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[03:49:31] <cradek> why not call up your vendor and tell them you need the linuxcnc post
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[03:54:55] <nema34> thay ask me to upgrade my controller
[03:55:06] <Tom_itx> i don't see why
[03:55:34] <Tom_itx> are you using solidworks for your cad?
[03:56:10] <renesis> xxcoder: ha cool
[03:56:17] <XXCoder> it is
[03:56:22] <XXCoder> but complex
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[03:56:38] <XXCoder> I was thinking somethinbg like just frame that can be clamped to work peice
[03:57:04] <renesis> yeah would prob find use somewhere
[03:57:10] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:57:16] <XXCoder> could do design on really big part
[03:57:29] <XXCoder> great if BIG part, just need small spot to be worked on
[03:59:38] <renesis> yeah, like in contruction where parts are just too big for machine centers
[03:59:54] <renesis> or mods of existing aerospace stuff
[04:00:47] <XXCoder> it amazes me when I see criaglist entry of old stuff priced almost at new
[04:00:48] <XXCoder> hah
[04:01:56] <XXCoder> worse is ones that is priced ABOVE new
[04:02:20] <XXCoder> "uhh I'll just go to store and get new one thanks"
[04:02:35] <norias> lol
[04:04:26] <XXCoder> $75 for second generation kindle (pretty old) "I just read 10 books on it" I assume 10 10,000 page ones :P
[04:07:06] <norias> why does it matter
[04:07:09] <norias> how many books
[04:07:12] <norias> and how many pages?
[04:07:15] <XXCoder> exactly
[04:07:32] <XXCoder> its pretty old one, $75 i way too much lol
[04:08:00] <norias> people are crazy
[04:08:05] <norias> there's no accounting for it
[04:08:07] <XXCoder> yeah
[04:12:26] <renesis> because someone confused might pay that much
[04:15:04] <XXCoder> possibly
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[04:22:02] <XXCoder> http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/574760/menuetos-modern-operating-system-written-entirely-assembly-hits-1-0/
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[04:58:38] <norias> oh man
[04:58:45] <norias> writeen in asm?
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[05:25:13] <LeelooMinai> "insanity knows no boundaries"
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[05:34:40] <renesis> if youre smart with asm, its not a ton different than c
[05:35:26] <renesis> you can do macros and function calls type code, and a lot of code would look as simple or even simpler than a c implimentation
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[05:35:55] <LeelooMinai> Yes, and if you build a house from toothpicks it's not a lot different than building it from wooden blocks.
[05:35:57] <renesis> you just have to kind of build that first layer of tools yourself
[05:36:09] <renesis> yeah that doesnt make sense
[05:36:16] <renesis> all c code is abstracted asm, basically
[05:36:40] <renesis> so a better analog would be making it from concrete (asm) versus stone or brick (c)
[05:37:11] <renesis> the end result can be very similar, and you can probably do more much cheaper with concrete if you have the tools to work with it
[05:38:30] <renesis> if youre competent enough to write an operating system in c, you should already have a very good idea of how its being compiled into assembly anyway
[05:39:53] <LeelooMinai> My analogy makes perfect sense. You are using compiler to abstact certain common usage patterns instead of just dealing with every single basic instruction and CPU detail.
[05:40:53] <renesis> how does that relate to toothpics versus bricks
[05:40:55] <LeelooMinai> For example, with asm you can devise all sorts of stack usages for variables, but C uses one model and you don't have to worry about it.
[05:41:20] <renesis> right but if that stack model doesnt make sense for what youre doing, in asm you just do it how it works
[05:41:34] <renesis> in c youre bending things to make it work how you want
[05:42:07] <renesis> abstraction makes sense most of the time but if youre doing an operating system, abstraction is going toget in the way for your core code
[05:42:15] <LeelooMinai> Well, toothpicks are small and don't do really anything advanced by their shape. Wood blocks are pre-enginnered to have some useful sizes for building houses and well, shapes that are useful - mainly they are rectanguar in nature:)
[05:42:53] <renesis> yeah but a finished house of toothpicks isnt like a finished house of stone
[05:43:03] <renesis> bricks dont turn into toothpics
[05:43:13] <renesis> c turns into asm
[05:43:42] <renesis> anything you can do with c can be accomplished in asm, everything you do with brocks cannot be accomplished with toothpics
[05:43:45] <LeelooMinai> I would like to notice that people came up with C for a reason, or 100 or so good reasons:)
[05:44:10] <renesis> right and it was for programming higher level applications and making things easily portable
[05:44:20] <renesis> that doesnt seem to be the goal here
[05:44:43] <LeelooMinai> Yes, seems the goal was to spend 10 years to make os that no one really uses/
[05:44:48] <renesis> if performance is the goal, and the developer knows the asm, the asm is probably going to win
[05:45:17] <LeelooMinai> To me it just seems like excercise in futility.
[05:45:17] <renesis> looks like closer to 15, and who cares if it works how its supposed to
[05:45:58] <renesis> oh you said wooden blocks i just read blocks
[05:46:09] <renesis> that actually does make more sense
[05:46:18] <renesis> read that wrong
[05:46:32] <LeelooMinai> Just because it works, doesn't mean that the whole idea was great.
[05:46:57] <renesis> asm would be wooden blocks, and c would be like glued together wooden blocks
[05:47:02] <renesis> like those cutting boards
[05:47:23] <XXCoder> hey LeelooMinai
[05:47:27] <XXCoder> hows your project
[05:47:45] <renesis> well if they benchmark it, and things work considerably faster, i would say its a great system, even more than a great idea
[05:48:09] <renesis> having more options is nice =)
[05:48:21] <XXCoder> renesis: bet its great for realtime
[05:48:24] <XXCoder> aka cnc
[05:48:26] <renesis> exactly
[05:48:38] <LeelooMinai> I have many projects:) CNC one is again pushed away a bit. Doing some fpga-related one now. And unfortunatelly my mom made me make the kitchen cabinets, so there's that:)
[05:49:26] <LeelooMinai> Well, I guess the fpga project is related to CNC because I will use it to get digital indicator data into linuxcnc.
[05:49:42] <LeelooMinai> Over rs485
[05:50:53] <LeelooMinai> I would not hold breath for having many machines running that os to run CNCs, somehow
[05:51:22] <LeelooMinai> It may be fast, may be small, but that's still not good enough
[05:53:46] <renesis> philosophically, i think its better to operate realtime on top of something closer to an embedded system, like that, than working backwards from systems where that wasnt the case
[05:54:25] <renesis> drivers and universaiality become more of an issue, but if youre doing something commercial thats not so much an issue
[05:57:17] <LeelooMinai> I will still stick to my opinion that it's a crazy and futile idea:)
[05:58:39] <XXCoder> doubt anyones willing to port linuxcnc
[05:59:31] <renesis> i dont think this Os is neccessarily the right one, or that the code base directly translates
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[06:00:23] <renesis> but something that could be adapted to run on low cost hardware with ideal latencies, with a simple gui, would be awesome
[06:00:46] <renesis> the linuxcnc desktop gui is so overkill
[06:02:35] <renesis> i dont really want word processing or media creation or web browsing functionality on a cnc controller
[06:02:41] <LeelooMinai> Windows 10 Some-Kind-Of-Realtime version then:)
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[06:03:30] <LeelooMinai> They are supposed to have a version that will run on Raspberry PI, so I guess it could be possible.
[06:03:31] <renesis> i dont see how thats less general purpose than gnome on ubuntu or debian
[06:03:48] <renesis> that doesnt mean its low latency
[06:04:01] <LeelooMinai> Sure, that's what I wrote what I wrote.
[06:04:26] <LeelooMinai> Depends if they could get some real-time features in it that are better than what the Linux solutions are.
[06:04:57] <LeelooMinai> The RPI point was that it's lean enought at least in size.
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[06:56:59] <Deejay> moin
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[07:07:55] <zeeshan|2> http://imgur.com/a/ooW8Q
[07:07:59] <zeeshan|2> finally got this frame welded up
[07:08:14] <XXCoder> oh you framed it
[07:08:25] <XXCoder> nice work
[07:08:31] <zeeshan|2> thank u!
[07:08:33] <zeeshan|2> so tired
[07:08:34] <zeeshan|2> =/
[07:09:57] <XXCoder> I bet
[07:10:12] <XXCoder> I need to get less lazy and finally build my cnc router
[07:10:22] <zeeshan|2> is it long weekend fo ryou guys
[07:10:34] <XXCoder> my job is 4/10
[07:11:26] <zeeshan|2> huh
[07:11:32] <XXCoder> 4 day 10 hours
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[07:16:20] <archivist> 3 days playing!
[07:16:58] <XXCoder> yeah if I had willpower
[07:17:07] <XXCoder> I gonna check into that issue
[07:17:52] <archivist> I get up to 7 days a week to play
[07:18:07] <XXCoder> varying hours at work?
[07:18:29] <archivist> I get odd days of work
[07:19:24] <XXCoder> interesting
[07:19:58] <archivist> not, means broke all the time
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[07:20:42] <XXCoder> yea
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[07:25:10] <XXCoder> archivist: currently seeking for job or?
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[07:25:54] <archivist> close to retiring age so few jobs available, doing whatever to survive
[07:26:54] <XXCoder> ow yeah heard its tough for older people to get jobs
[07:26:59] <XXCoder> its same for deaf
[07:29:47] <XXCoder> heh I couldn't even get mcdonalds job
[07:30:01] <XXCoder> good thing job training place helped find me current job
[07:34:54] <archivist> some of the job places do tend to throw one at all the worst jobs though
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[07:39:07] <XXCoder> like what
[07:40:46] <archivist> there is no way I would want to work in a shop for example
[07:41:24] <XXCoder> dont like shops eh
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[08:12:06] <witnit> what all machines you got arch?
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[08:14:38] <witnit> anything you could just load up and run parts with?
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[08:16:11] <witnit> those welds look good zeeshan|2
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[10:46:02] <jthornton> I changed the name of a master doc and changed the submakefile did a make clean and make still gives me an error /home/john/emc-dev/docs/src/Master_Manual.xml:45927: element anchor: validity error on the old document name
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[11:00:50] * Loetmichel2 has to rant a bit.. wife wants to buy balcony flowers. so she orders me to drive with her to the home improvement shop... Every thing i do there is wrong, i get the wrong flowers, i put in the wrong baskets, i choose the wrong cahsier... and NOW she is pissed that i am not all cheery to have done that with her? WTF?
[11:03:18] <moorbo> maybe ask her why she's upset about your choices.
[11:03:49] <moorbo> or tell her politely that it bothers you that regardless of what you do is wrong.
[11:04:35] <Loetmichel2> moorbo: simpler solituion: next time she wants to buy flowers she can drive there alone and shove her wheelchair alone also. not my problem.
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[11:07:04] <SpeedEvil> Loetmichel2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPsSPc-Q5hc - the only sensible solution
[11:08:12] <Loetmichel2> SpeedEvil: should one call that "music"?
[11:08:57] <SpeedEvil> It's actually not supposed to be music - it's probably funnier if you've seen the original series.
[11:09:26] <SpeedEvil> Hyperdrive is sort of star-trek crossed with the office.
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[11:35:22] * jthornton waits for make
[11:38:38] <jthornton> lol I thought I was in the dev channel
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[12:32:00] <jthornton> yea make is done
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[13:46:42] <JT-Shop> one job finally complete
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[14:19:25] <archivist> not going to get rich, just found one of these seized in the garden scrap pile
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-PENNANT-CHAIN-LINK-REMOVER-FROM-AN-OLD-TOOLBOX-CLASSIC-MOTORCYCLE-/251951148205
[14:20:54] <_methods> score
[14:22:55] <archivist> actually this version is closer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-PRE-WW2-PENNANT-CHAIN-SPLITTER-FITS-BRITISH-BSA-TRIUMPH-TOOL-KIT-ROLL-/111664338767
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[14:28:32] <JT-Shop> it's pretty bad when the walls have quad outlets every 4' and you can't get to 90% of them
[14:29:15] <_methods> heheh
[14:29:31] <_methods> i'm cleaning and rearranging all day because of a similar situation
[14:30:49] <_methods> well i'm going to take a break here in a few though to go watch mad max though
[14:30:54] <archivist> cleaning, gardening, terrible afflictions, just to make space :)
[14:31:28] <_methods> indeed
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[14:35:35] <JT-Shop> yes
[14:36:02] <JT-Shop> at least I learned a way to recover fouled up powder coat on more expensive items I make
[14:36:29] <SpeedEvil> Is it 'say it's supposed to look like that'?
[14:36:43] <archivist> I had to make a bench in the garden during the week, no space in the garage :)
[14:37:51] <_methods> scuff and recoat?
[14:38:02] <SpeedEvil> I am seriously considering the 'fuck it, throw up a nice waterproof shed in the garden 10*10m' option
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[14:39:29] <archivist> ok till the local council looks on google maps at your shed city
[14:41:16] <JT-Shop> propane torch then sand blast to remove old powder coating
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[14:41:38] <_methods> ahh never tried that
[14:41:46] <_methods> soften with the torch then blast it off eh
[14:45:02] <JT-Shop> yea, seems to work pretty good
[14:46:02] * _methods adds that to toolbox
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[15:02:36] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop you put in drop outlets too didn't you??
[15:03:05] <jthornton> just one in the middle of the shop
[15:03:58] <Tom_itx> what was the powdercoat solution? i missed that one..
[15:04:06] <jthornton> dang, the docs have the same info in different pdfs again
[15:04:36] <jthornton> still working on it, but could be dirty wipe towel and or poor prep and or crap in the powder
[15:04:37] <Tom_itx> does the make do all that for you?
[15:04:49] <jthornton> make do what?
[15:04:53] <Tom_itx> docs
[15:05:09] <jthornton> it builds them from .txt files
[15:05:29] <jthornton> back to the shop
[15:05:34] <Tom_itx> edit the make then to dump them into one
[15:07:42] <JT-Shop> that's what I'm working on now, I had it once where the same info was only in one doc and it's keeps getting duplicated
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[15:08:49] <JT-Shop> but it took me a while to find a problem in one of the docs that screwed up the pdf's
[15:09:49] <JT-Shop> it's really a mess... the html has stuff the pdfs don't and the other way round...
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[15:12:43] <Tom_itx> you're trying to make them identical?
[15:12:50] <Tom_itx> i think that's a good idea
[15:13:02] <JT-Shop> they should be the same
[15:13:41] <Tom_itx> rewired the control last night, gonna test it later today
[15:13:56] <Tom_itx> took everything off the 7I84
[15:14:13] <JT-Shop> what's a 7i84?
[15:14:19] <Tom_itx> sserial IO
[15:14:41] <Tom_itx> it's a great card but i have a problem with mine
[15:15:00] <Tom_itx> i had all the limits and pendant on it
[15:15:11] <Tom_itx> non timing critical stuff
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[15:26:56] <JT-Shop> have you done any rigid tapping yet?
[15:27:26] <Tom_itx> dry run yes
[15:27:36] <Tom_itx> generated from my cad cam too
[15:28:00] <Tom_itx> i hope to tap some metal today or tomorrow
[15:28:15] <Tom_itx> i want all the errors gone first
[15:29:40] <Tom_itx> putting the bitfile back like it was right now
[15:31:07] <Tom_itx> i _get_ to go shopping first...
[15:31:22] * Tom_itx feels Loetmichel2's pain
[15:33:54] <JT-Shop> try some plastic first lol
[15:34:24] <JT-Shop> yea, I would only push in his case and not pick anything out
[15:35:20] <Tom_itx> you sound like an ole dog in that regard
[15:45:18] <zeeshan|2> mornin
[15:48:12] <JT-Shop> morning
[15:49:00] <zeeshan|2> i need a bigger welder
[15:49:04] <zeeshan|2> to handle 500A welds
[15:49:04] <zeeshan|2> lol
[15:49:09] <archivist> 5pm lazy buggers
[15:49:15] <zeeshan|2> yea i woke up late :P
[15:49:25] <JT-Shop> dang 500a is big
[15:49:26] <zeeshan|2> was machining/welding uptill 6am
[15:49:43] <zeeshan|2> JT-Shop: my welder can lay welds beautifuly down upto .25 metal
[15:49:52] <JT-Shop> mine is only 160A
[15:49:52] <zeeshan|2> but asap i do say .375 to .25"
[15:49:57] <zeeshan|2> it struggles hard
[15:50:06] <zeeshan|2> in aluminum this is
[15:50:17] <zeeshan|2> its like the aluminum sucks all the heat out
[15:50:34] <archivist> it does, needs lotsa amps
[15:50:54] <zeeshan|2> lately ive been getting alot of .25 to .5" stuff to weld
[15:50:58] <archivist> iirc we had 400 amp welders
[15:51:00] <zeeshan|2> its not structural so i get away with it
[15:51:02] <JT-Shop> mine will do 3/8" with 0.035" wire
[15:51:11] <zeeshan|2> mig is a diff story :)
[15:51:33] <zeeshan|2> you need to use pure argon right?
[15:51:39] <JT-Shop> ouch, you have a water cooled torch?
[15:51:44] <zeeshan|2> nahh
[15:51:54] <JT-Shop> yea for alum
[15:51:56] <zeeshan|2> usually the welder will go on overheat mode before the toch gets too hot
[15:52:08] <zeeshan|2> so i thought water cooling would just be money wasted
[15:52:16] <zeeshan|2> but for a bigger welder, i can see it being absolutely necessary
[15:53:15] <JT-Shop> my Miller Syncrowave 180 will get the torch too hot to hold in short order
[15:54:05] <zeeshan|2> what torch are you using
[15:54:08] <zeeshan|2> wpa17?
[15:54:34] <JT-Shop> it says miller black diamond
[15:55:44] <zeeshan|2> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-tool-other/muskoka/tig-welder-miller-syncrowave-300-with-coolant-pump-torch/1072270741?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
[15:55:44] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[15:56:00] <JT-Shop> everytime I order parts I have to figure out what size it is
[15:57:36] <MrHindsight> urethane wheel on the forklift breaks 3ft from it's last stop and leaves a skid mark
[15:57:47] <zeeshan|2> http://www.millerwelds.com/products/tig/product.php?model=M00119
[15:57:49] <zeeshan|2> one day ill own this!
[15:57:51] <zeeshan|2> one day. :)
[15:58:21] <JT-Shop> wow that is a beast
[15:58:32] <zeeshan|2> lol 500A 100% duty cycke on 3 phase
[15:59:15] <zeeshan|2> lol its got inverter technology and still weighs 198lb
[15:59:16] <zeeshan|2> crazy
[15:59:28] <MrHindsight> i cast a new one overnight, good as new. One more application for liquid dual cure polymers
[15:59:45] <zeeshan|2> MrHindsight: did you use window weld? :)
[16:00:26] <MrHindsight> a combo of vinyl ester and urethane oligomers
[16:00:41] <MrHindsight> MEKP catalyst
[16:01:45] <dutchfish> dead? for the other side? is this the seance channel?
[16:02:04] <dutchfish> oops, wrong channel
[16:02:13] <JT-Shop> lol
[16:02:33] <Tom_itx> one of the better wrong channel quotes so far...
[16:02:41] <zeeshan|2> hahahah
[16:03:23] <MrHindsight> looks like summer arrives here today with humidity
[16:03:41] <MrHindsight> zeeshan|2: have you seen 80's yet this year?
[16:03:41] <Tom_itx> yep, sun's out
[16:04:01] <Tom_itx> gonna suck all the water out of the ground today
[16:04:16] <MrHindsight> we've had rain the past few days
[16:04:24] <zeeshan|2> its supposed to rain in the afternoon here
[16:04:56] <zeeshan|2> i hope the heat is here to stay
[16:05:10] <MrHindsight> i usually open the shop doors to cool things off but it had the opposite effect today
[16:05:10] <jthornton> raining here now
[16:05:15] <zeeshan|2> we saw 3 80's days
[16:06:43] <MrHindsight> I have to find a bigger lathe
[16:06:56] <zeeshan|2> that reminds me
[16:07:01] <zeeshan|2> as much as i bitch and complaine dabout my 12x36
[16:07:06] <zeeshan|2> its been getting the job done
[16:07:18] <zeeshan|2> buy it :-)
[16:07:38] <MrHindsight> need 16 now
[16:07:39] <cthompson> is the wiki on linuxcnc.org still worth reading? It doesn't appear anything has been edited since 2008
[16:07:51] <cthompson> ah, here's reference to Ubuntu 10.04, so 2010
[16:07:57] <MrHindsight> cthompson: it gets edited daily
[16:08:12] <cthompson> MrHindsight: I'm just lucky and hitting old stuff, I guess
[16:08:23] <jthornton> stuff is edited daily but not everything
[16:08:56] <cthompson> well, sure. I'll keep reading.
[16:08:57] <MrHindsight> Last edited May 13, 2015 5:37 am by Jt
[16:08:59] <jthornton> cthompson, Last edited May 13, 2015 5:37 am by
[16:09:05] <MrHindsight> front page
[16:09:42] <cthompson> it seemed odd on the hardware page it looked like the recommendations were years old
[16:09:45] <cthompson> no harm no foul
[16:10:07] <MrHindsight> I can't think of another as active wiki
[16:10:22] <MrHindsight> unless it's a new project starting up
[16:10:44] <cthompson> I'm not moving out of this apartment until late summer, so right now this is just research
[16:11:12] <cthompson> I sort of ended up here accidentally. Video about woodworking led to shapeoko led to "I'm using linuxcnc"
[16:11:17] <cthompson> and down the rabbit hole I go
[16:11:26] <MrHindsight> is there a section on "in apartment machining"? or how to break you lease
[16:11:53] <cthompson> sadly, I know exactly how to break a lease in Ohio, it's too expensive.
[16:12:10] <cthompson> you have to tell them you're leaving and keep paying until they find someone to move in
[16:12:12] <MrHindsight> I new a guy that tried to break is garden apt. lease by welding inside daily
[16:12:25] <cthompson> nice.
[16:12:58] <cthompson> I lost my basement and garage workshops in the divorce in 2009, all my tools have been in storage since
[16:13:15] <cthompson> my next place will have a workshop
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[16:14:06] <cthompson> I was surprised at the video. I wasn't aware you could control stepper controllers with just a parallel port and a breakout board.
[16:14:41] <cthompson> For the 3d printer I also don't have room for, I'd been considering smoothieboard. I guess mentally I assumed that CNC had to be custom controller hardware
[16:14:42] <MrHindsight> it's a bit more difficult now that PC's don't come with lpt ports anymore
[16:14:48] <jthornton> you would be suprised how cost effective a pci motion controller card is now a days
[16:15:24] <MrHindsight> nah, smoothie was designed to not use Linuxcnc, they wanted to reinvent the wheel only more poorly
[16:16:15] <cradek> cthompson: rule 1 is don't pick and buy hardware and THEN see if it's needed for linuxcnc. a lot of folks make this mistake, somehow.
[16:17:05] <cradek> cthompson: jthornton is right about the many smart pci cards made for linuxcnc
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[16:17:21] <cthompson> cradek: I recently built a hackintosh exactly by figuring out the best parts and THEN going to buy
[16:17:28] <cthompson> so I hear you
[16:17:34] <cthompson> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPe6nvfm8zw
[16:17:50] <cthompson> that's the video that I kept watching thinking "But, where's his smoothieboard/arduino/etc?"
[16:18:00] <cthompson> before I realized it was just a PC and a parallel port
[16:18:31] <cradek> yeah and you can go up from there
[16:18:52] <cradek> mesa makes the 5i25 which is like the best thing ever internally, that looks like a parallel port from the outside
[16:19:17] <cradek> hardware step generators and encoder counters and pwm generators, but it hooks up to all the old parport-based breakout hardware
[16:19:45] <cradek> and then you keep going up into real industrial pci solutions, or now even ethernet
[16:19:45] <cthompson> nice
[16:20:09] <cthompson> the term "downward spiral" keeps coming to mind
[16:20:33] <cradek> no no - it's upward :-)
[16:20:50] <MrHindsight> smoothie = downward spiral
[16:21:36] <cthompson> MrHindsight: compared to the RAMPS/RAMBO cards, it appears to be a giant leap forward
[16:22:18] <Jymmmm> MrHindsight: helical? Cause that might be kinda cool
[16:22:51] <cthompson> good lord
[16:22:54] <cthompson> this Mesa product line
[16:23:06] <cthompson> ethernet in and three "parallel" out?
[16:23:41] <cradek> that "parallel" hooks to a lot of their other stuff too, you don't have to use it as parallel-port-compatible
[16:23:49] <MrHindsight> nah, smoothie is for the reprap crowd, they still think that CNC glue guns will revolutionize manufacturing
[16:24:17] <Jymmmm> MrHindsight: They will, just add $80,000
[16:24:41] <MrHindsight> and smoothie was designed in someones apartment
[16:24:52] <cthompson> MrHindsight: to be fair, I entered this conversation through 3d printing. I'd stab a nun for a Rostock Max.
[16:25:08] <MrHindsight> had a feeling
[16:25:10] <cthompson> all in good time
[16:25:18] <cthompson> for the record, I want it all
[16:25:23] <cthompson> who doesn't?
[16:25:46] <cthompson> 3d printing, resin/UV printing, CNC, laser, plotter/cutter
[16:26:04] <cthompson> six years of not having any reasonable workspace has me all worked up
[16:27:03] <cthompson> that said, I'm not a zealot to any one tech. Smoothie I found reading about RAMPS. If something is better, I'm all for it.
[16:27:15] <cthompson> the advantages of years to sit and research and stew.
[16:28:11] <dutchfish> hi, how hard would it be to extend the stepper configuration wizzard? i want an option not only for xenable, but also for yenable and zenable, which work if i edit the configfile manually but then the wizzard can no longer being used on the config.
[16:29:09] <cradek> is it just a bug?
[16:29:20] <MrHindsight> cthompson: RAMPS, and smoothie were all made to deflect $ into the pockets of their devs, the early cnc glue guns used linuxcnc and then they had an "epiphany"
[16:29:22] <dutchfish> cradek, i do not know
[16:29:38] <cthompson> MrHindsight: nice.
[16:30:02] <MrHindsight> cthompson: lets replace the PC with a micro and still use a PC for the UI
[16:30:22] <cradek> MrHindsight: oh I assume good faith on the part of everyone...
[16:30:44] <MrHindsight> unfortunately I met the devs
[16:30:48] <dutchfish> cradek, if i alter it manually it works as it is supposed to be, but those options are not available, instead i only can choose amplifier enable, which puts in xenable
[16:30:51] <MrHindsight> and watched the evolution
[16:31:30] <cthompson> I actually asked on a forum years ago why a computer with a parallel port couldn't control things, as it seemed to have enough pins
[16:31:50] <cthompson> and got vague responses about "real time" and "latency"
[16:32:02] <cthompson> I didn't even remember that until now
[16:32:06] <cradek> parports have controlled things since there have been parports
[16:32:20] <cradek> parports are very much realtime
[16:32:40] <MrHindsight> cthompson: I see it more like asking 4th graders about differential equations, you'll get all sorts of fun responses
[16:32:51] <cradek> heh
[16:33:27] <cthompson> MrHindsight: to be fair, I'm 46 and "do computers" and if you asked me about DiffEQ my eyes would glaze over.
[16:33:40] <cthompson> I'm a linux sysadmin specifically so I don't get asked to do higher math. :)
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[16:34:20] <cthompson> these mesa cards make me think of the BeBox geekport
[16:35:13] <cthompson> https://www.allpinouts.org/index.php/BeBox_GeekPort
[16:35:51] <cthompson> 16 digital in/out, four analog in/out, +5, -5, +12, -12v sources
[16:36:03] <cthompson> in DB-37
[16:37:02] <MrHindsight> cthompson: try the linuxcnc live cd and compare that to say printrun/pronterface/etc
[16:37:27] <MrHindsight> you'll quickly see the difference
[16:37:51] <archivist> cthompson, my 5 axis hangs off one parallel port
[16:38:18] <archivist> granted it lacks limit switches :)
[16:38:26] <cthompson> MrHindsight: I've been watching videos. Guy wrote what I take to be python to add a usb microscope to his shapeoko to zero x and y
[16:38:51] <cthompson> I'm thinking that's not something you can just randomly do in something like pronterface
[16:39:17] <cthompson> so, I'm sold.
[16:39:27] <cthompson> now to spend several months plotting and scheming
[16:40:38] <archivist> I experimented with a usb cam too, added cross hairs in a web interface
[16:40:58] <dutchfish> cradek, i fixed it, in line 163, nano $(which stepconf) just added those options. done. Its just python.
[16:41:18] <archivist> then realised the web cam needed its own xy control
[16:42:17] <cthompson> archivist: this guy hard mounted it to his spindle mount so it was locked in place and looked through a clear plexi dust shoe
[16:42:47] <archivist> then it would miss variable length tooling :)
[16:42:49] <MrHindsight> cthompson: yes, once you start comparing and looking for features and options is becomes quite apparent that the differences are
[16:43:02] <MrHindsight> that/what
[16:43:20] <archivist> cthompson, mine looked sideways
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/target.php
[16:45:16] <dutchfish> cradek, and line 157 human_output_names on the same order for the names in the dropdown boxes.
[16:45:17] <cradek> dutchfish: it would be awesome if you would prepare a git patch and submit that change on the devel mailing list. some help here:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/code/Contributing-to-LinuxCNC.html
[16:45:31] <dutchfish> cradek, if it keeps working i will do
[16:45:48] <dutchfish> cradek, git dif
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[16:46:09] <dutchfish> cradek, thanks
[16:46:22] <cthompson> archivist: wow
[16:47:34] <archivist> cthompson, I need to measure cutter diameter+offset and rotary centre, diameter etc and get them inline
[16:48:10] <archivist> usually eyeball it and use the digital guessing stick
[16:51:56] <dutchfish> cradek, last q, is there a git repo for debian/wheezy which i can work on with the git build tools?
[16:52:47] <dutchfish> (then its convient to produce patches, i prolly have some more to come)
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[16:57:26] <MrHindsight> cthompson: camview hasn't been touched in a while, I'd look at openCV for new development
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[16:58:01] <MrHindsight> camview works but opencv is actively developed
[16:58:05] <MrHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe2RACwiEbg
[16:58:11] <dutchfish> cradek, nm, found it already, thanks again
[16:58:12] <cradek> dutchfish: I don't understand what you're asking. the linuxcnc source (stepconf is a part of linuxcnc) is at git.linuxcnc.org. the deb packaging rules are in there too
[16:58:16] <cradek> oops
[16:58:19] <cradek> too slow
[16:58:23] <dutchfish> :)
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[16:58:50] <dutchfish> cradek, yes, found the package rules as well, happy building atm
[16:59:05] <MrHindsight> just found this video
https://vimeo.com/13840650 real-time target tracking w/ openCV + EMC
[16:59:48] <t12> i like how this thing looks:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-N-BRIDGES-CO-PRECISION-HIGH-SPEED-DRILL-PRESS-MADE-IN-ENGLAND-5-32-CHUCK/350927103942
[17:00:01] <MrHindsight> "openCV in python, talking to EMC machine controller via emcrsh"
[17:06:41] <archivist> I wonder if he went any further with that
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[17:32:03] <zeeshan|2> http://www.kbctools.ca/products/MEASURING%20@@26%20INSPECTION/EDGE%20@@26%20CENTER%20FINDERS/EDGE%20FINDERS/ELECTRONIC%20EDGE%20FINDERS/1188.aspx
[17:32:07] <zeeshan|2> is this garbage
[17:32:13] <zeeshan|2> theres one someone is selling for 40bux
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[17:32:59] <cradek> haha "3D Electronic"
[17:33:07] <zeeshan|2> :]
[17:33:12] <zeeshan|2> from the sounds of it
[17:33:18] <zeeshan|2> you can move it in Z in the same setup?
[17:33:26] <zeeshan|2> and they give you .2" of over travel
[17:33:31] <cradek> this thing exists in 3 dimensions and is made up partly of electrons
[17:33:38] <zeeshan|2> haha
[17:33:59] <cradek> they forgot "solid state"
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[17:34:02] <cradek> sorry I'm no help
[17:34:06] <cradek> I have no idea
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[17:35:30] <dutchfish> cradek, there you go:
http://paste.debian.net/178343/
[17:35:43] <dutchfish> cradek, and it builds
[17:35:49] <malcom2073> Dem electrons move in 3!!! dimentions!
[17:35:51] <dutchfish> (obviously)
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[17:36:36] <cradek> dutchfish: cool, would you please make a git patch (using git commit -s; then git format-patch) and put it on the devel list?
[17:36:53] <cradek> then you get authorship and the stepconf guys can review it
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[17:37:09] <dutchfish> cradek, i will try, also i work alot with git, this is a primer for me
[17:37:15] <cradek> great
[17:37:54] <cthompson> I was going to lunch two and a half hours ago when I got sucked into the linuxcnc rabbit hole
[17:38:12] <cthompson> and now I'm watching videos like a junkie
[17:39:09] <dutchfish> cradek, that might take a few days, becausei have no build envirenment on my linuxcnc station (yet) and i have a diferent arch on my workstation
[17:40:51] <dutchfish> cradek, but i will manage
[17:42:16] <cradek> thanks, I know initial setup can be a pain but it's worth it
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[17:44:54] <dutchfish> cradek, sure, i fixed another bug in the main code as well, i will do that along this one
[17:45:10] <dutchfish> yw
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[17:53:07] <A_Nub> anyone here have a cheap suggestion for a pc?
[17:53:16] <A_Nub> I just had some of the worst luck with an atom board
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[17:53:24] <A_Nub> it fried my SSD
[17:53:30] <A_Nub> and I just dont want to deal with it atm
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[17:54:01] <A_Nub> well not just cheap, but decent deal for cnc
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[17:56:50] <dutchfish> cradek, i spoke to soon, there is more to it, i will debug it carefully before i submit the patch
[17:57:07] <dutchfish> cradek, sorry for the noise
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[18:07:32] <eventor> hi, is there an solution for reading NGC/Interpreter Paramters to python/gladevcp ?
[18:11:52] <eventor> i'm able to read the var file from python periodicly, but the parameter are only saved at linuxcnc shutdown. thats not "actually" enough for me...
[18:12:50] <eventor> is there any implementation for the parameters in the python module?
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[18:15:22] <cradek> no, and it's worse than you think, because the interpreter reads way ahead of where the machine is, so those parameters are often from the far future
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[18:18:35] <eventor> yes, i understand. for that what i want its not critical
[18:20:09] <eventor> I want an gui object for display and sometimes changes an persistant ngc parameter (material_heigth) is there another solution?
[18:22:08] <cradek> usually the operator would use touch off or probing to set Z=0 to be the top of workpiece
[18:24:43] <eventor> yes, but on this machining center there are fix zero points, the operator has to input the material height, and then z0 is given
[18:26:22] <eventor> i can set the parameter with the mdi_action widget, but reading is the problem
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[18:30:08] <eventor> its not the normal way i know, but i have to implement most similar behaviour as the mid 80s control did have :-(
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[18:57:02] <jthornton> A_Nub, I think lately people have been using J1900 mb
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[19:30:48] <Tom_itx> A_Nub, you didn't get that asrock one i posted?
[19:31:10] <A_Nub> I did
[19:31:23] <A_Nub> It burnt my ssd and release the smoke
[19:31:26] <Tom_itx> 2 boards: Q1900M pro3 & Q1900B itx
[19:31:45] <Tom_itx> what did?
[19:31:58] <A_Nub> The asrock q1900b
[19:32:15] <Tom_itx> never heard of that happening
[19:32:16] <_methods> wow that sux
[19:32:37] <_methods> you don't happen to work near an iranian nuclear facility do you lol
[19:33:06] <JT-Shop> were you welding inside your computer?
[19:33:14] <_methods> hahah
[19:33:21] <_methods> is that wrong?
[19:37:16] <A_Nub> All I did was plug in the 24 pin ram and ssd
[19:37:25] <A_Nub> I have built.many computers before
[19:37:39] <A_Nub> So pretty sure it wasn't my fault
[19:38:38] <JT-Shop> so bad ssd, bad power supply?
[19:38:42] <Tom_itx> maybe a coincidence
[19:39:05] <A_Nub> JT-Shop: i have used both the ssd and psu before
[19:39:09] <A_Nub> On my test bench
[19:39:10] <Tom_itx> could be the supply, i somewhat doubt the signal from the MB would do that
[19:39:20] <_methods> RMA
[19:39:28] <A_Nub> _methods: already did
[19:39:40] <A_Nub> Ssd sadly is old
[19:39:45] <_methods> yeah that's crazy
[19:39:46] <A_Nub> So it's just lost
[19:40:04] <_methods> that sux
[19:40:08] <A_Nub> Yea
[19:40:12] <Tom_itx> i may have to try that, i've got a ssd for testing
[19:40:13] <A_Nub> First cnc machine
[19:40:25] <A_Nub> Haven't even been able to get it to move
[19:40:38] <_methods> don't worry that's normal lol
[19:40:40] <JT-Shop> don't ssd's have a limited life
[19:40:40] <A_Nub> Had a shit pci lpt before this too
[19:40:45] <_methods> it takes patience
[19:40:53] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, some are kinda doomed from the start too
[19:40:53] <A_Nub> JT-Shop: not to the extent of fire
[19:40:54] <_methods> if it was easy hillary clinton would have a cnc
[19:40:59] <A_Nub> And this was barely used
[19:41:31] <A_Nub> _methods: heh i was at least hoping itd be somewhat like my 3D printer
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[19:41:46] <A_Nub> But no, just a bunch of ancient plugs and software
[19:41:52] <_methods> no this actually requires skill\
[19:42:11] <A_Nub> I built my printer!
[19:42:13] <Tom_itx> heh
[19:42:18] <A_Nub> A tiny bit of skill
[19:42:25] <Tom_itx> well this should be a walk in the park for you then
[19:42:33] <_methods> lol
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[19:42:48] <A_Nub> That's what I thought but I keep getting dud hardware!!!
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[19:43:28] <A_Nub> Anywho, ordered a Dell optiplex for $15
[19:43:38] <_methods> nice
[19:43:40] <A_Nub> Hopefully it will at least turn the motors
[19:43:49] <A_Nub> And not catch fie
[19:43:54] <A_Nub> Fire
[19:44:27] <_methods> don't pour gas on it and you should be alright
[19:44:49] <A_Nub> Ahh liquid cooling though!
[19:45:17] <_methods> hehe
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[19:47:00] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx,
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/doc/scratch/v2.7.0~pre6~2.7-Docs~383a65a/pdf/LinuxCNC_Documentation.pdf
[19:58:02] <Tom_itx> lookin good
[20:00:05] <JT-Shop> thanks, now there can be links to any part of the manual
[20:00:13] <JT-Shop> even in the html
[20:00:19] <Tom_itx> nice
[20:01:40] <Tom_itx> pcw_home, direct from the fpga pins is active low right?
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[20:12:02] <pcw_home> FPGA pins are neither active high or active low thats a hal/external hardware choice
[20:12:03] <pcw_home> _however_ since FPGA pins on Mesa hardware start up in a high state,
[20:12:05] <pcw_home> Active low external hardware is suggested
[20:12:24] <Tom_itx> that's kinda what i remembered
[20:13:41] <Tom_itx> pcw_home, the 7i90 drives the same as the 7i43 on the FPGA pins right?
[20:13:57] <pcw_home> Yes all are the same
[20:13:59] <Tom_itx> just double checking things here..
[20:14:11] <Tom_itx> should be good to go then
[20:14:23] <Tom_itx> i'm taking the 7i84 out of the equasion for now
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[20:15:04] <Tom_itx> it's still wired but disconnected if you want any tests
[20:15:27] <pcw_home> weird we have thousands of sserial devices running but have never seen your particular issue
[20:15:41] <Tom_itx> it ran fine on the 7i47
[20:15:52] <Tom_itx> well all i had on it was the limits...
[20:16:07] <Tom_itx> i didn't port the pendant over until i switched to the 7i90
[20:16:11] <pcw_home> I wonder if its a bug with just one serial channel
[20:16:18] <Tom_itx> no idea
[20:16:30] <Tom_itx> i think i have room to add 2
[20:16:40] <Tom_itx> io 13 15 and 22 23 maybe
[20:16:45] <Tom_itx> if 23 is still free
[20:17:10] <pcw_home> you could add more on the other connectors
[20:17:35] <Tom_itx> but i'd need a differential drive for it
[20:17:44] <Tom_itx> and i don't have one hooked up to it now
[20:17:50] <Tom_itx> i have the spare 7i47...
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[20:19:15] <pcw_home> a lot of things go funny with only one channel (various RAMs collapse into latches, the SSLBP code loop is a loop of 1 channel etc etc)
[20:19:15] <Tom_itx> i made a 50pin ribbon for it last night in case i decided to use it instead of direct to the FPGA pins but i don't think there were enough inputs
[20:19:34] <Tom_itx> would just having it in the bitfile make a difference?
[20:19:41] <Tom_itx> 2 instead of 1
[20:20:28] <Tom_itx> what about the terminated RX voltage though?
[20:20:31] <pcw_home> it might, I dont think any standard configs have just one sserial channel
[20:20:32] <Tom_itx> you said it was high
[20:20:44] <Tom_itx> it was 3.xx v or such
[20:21:01] <pcw_home> yeah it cannot be 3.3V (impossibe with 120 Ohm load on 3.3V driver)
[20:21:16] <Tom_itx> it was that way on both IO13 and IO15
[20:22:05] <Tom_itx> RX needs the resistor enabled?
[20:22:22] <pcw_home> yes
[20:22:26] <Tom_itx> ok
[20:23:10] <pcw_home> well with a short cable its not likely to be an issue but trying to remove variables
[20:23:10] <Tom_itx> i'm pretty sure it always was but i'm certain it has been since i switched to the 7i90
[20:23:48] <Tom_itx> and i'm reasonablly sure it always was because i copied the jumpers over from the 7i47
[20:23:54] <pcw_home> arghh broadcom wireless support is a PITA
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[20:24:36] <_methods> yep
[20:25:07] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure it errors with nothing hooked to it, just when i had the pendant on it is when i noticed it
[20:25:11] <_methods> wireless in general seems like
[20:25:24] <Tom_itx> i could also hook the 7i71 up but i don't really have much to connect to it
[20:28:33] <pcw_home> I am trying mint on the tupperware PC and it worked with the stock cinnamon dist after poking the driver manager
[20:28:34] <pcw_home> but getting a working driver with the RT kernel is a major PITA
[20:28:36] <Deejay> gn8
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[20:29:13] <_methods> i'm suprised with mint lol
[20:29:20] <_methods> they throw everything in that distro
[20:29:41] <_methods> i actually talked my wife into using mint for a year
[20:29:57] <_methods> she made me reinstall windows when the year was over
[20:30:01] <pcw_home> yeah easier to get running than in ubuntu
[20:30:18] <_methods> but she managed to survive for a year
[20:30:31] <_methods> so i gotta give mint +1 for that
[20:30:57] <pcw_home> well that stock system worked well. (no issue installing linuxcnc either)
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[20:31:38] <pcw_home> but @#$## Broadcom...
[20:32:10] <_methods> yeah i have no love for broadcom or realtek
[20:32:13] <_methods> intel FTW
[20:32:54] <_methods> learned my lesson long ago with BSD to stick with intel
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[20:33:29] <_methods> unfortunately lowest bidder gets on the mobo lol
[20:33:30] <pcw_home> its on a minipcie card, maybe iI should just take it out and replace with something that works
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[20:33:48] <_methods> ah good minipcie yeah you can swap em out
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[20:36:20] <_methods> bsd hates everything but intel it seems like
[20:37:09] <_methods> either that or write your own drivers and i'm too stoopid to do that
[20:37:38] <_methods> so i just get intel networking kit heheh
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[23:22:19] <Jymmm> Um....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N1Q8oFpX1Y
[23:22:24] <Jymmm> YES!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxCGfsNNtnE
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[23:26:04] <_methods> hmm doing fresh install on a new pc and it's crashing when i try to run latency test
[23:26:16] <_methods> i-pipe timer
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[23:36:23] <_methods> lol guess it helps if you actually read dmesg output
[23:36:44] <_methods> guess i need to disable c1e in bios
[23:36:46] <_methods> doh
[23:42:13] <_methods> amazing how easy that works when you actually read lol
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[23:47:04] <Tom_itx> i swear if it can happen it'll happen to me
[23:47:25] <_methods> lawnmower again?
[23:47:37] <_methods> or was that jt
[23:47:38] <Tom_itx> checking the rewiring and couldn't connect to the 7i90 with lcnc
[23:47:49] <Tom_itx> cheap chinese 5v reg just bit it
[23:48:02] <_methods> oh i bet that was fun finding
[23:48:12] <Tom_itx> it's got a readout on it
[23:48:22] <_methods> oh well that would help i guess
[23:48:50] <Tom_itx> i suspect just about anything anymore
[23:49:39] <_methods> yeah all i had to do was read to fix my problem lol
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[23:56:17] <jims> Can someone explain how to send a parameter from gcode to pyVCP?
