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[00:28:46] <malcom2073> TekniQue: Saw your post about the homemade dyno, that was you, right?
[00:31:22] <TekniQue> correct
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[00:34:33] <TekniQue> malcom2073: and I'm currently having a bit of a fight with the software I wrote that interfaces with it
[00:34:35] <malcom2073> TekniQue: Very awesome
[00:34:46] <malcom2073> I hope someday to be able to do that
[00:35:00] <malcom2073> mainly for ecu development more than engine development heh
[00:35:40] <TekniQue> it's using a C++ library to parse mathematical expressions on the PC side, so I can plug in a sensor and declare its transfer function on run time, very neat
[00:35:47] <malcom2073> Nice
[00:35:52] <TekniQue> however, the library isn't very good
[00:35:54] <malcom2073> heh
[00:36:03] <TekniQue> it's not thread safe, not re-entrant, etc
[00:36:15] <malcom2073> Yeah
[00:36:19] <TekniQue> declaring a new instance of it on the stack works
[00:36:26] <TekniQue> except it takes fucking forever
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[00:36:45] <TekniQue> and I ran out of CPU on my laptop with only a few of those user defined variables running
[00:36:51] <malcom2073> Heh
[00:37:04] <malcom2073> Doesn't seem like the sort of thing that should eat lots of cpu
[00:37:09] <malcom2073> how often is data coming back?
[00:37:12] <TekniQue> meaning I used up all of my cpu power just firing up and freeing shit on the stack
[00:37:16] <malcom2073> lol
[00:37:18] <malcom2073> ah yeah that'll do that
[00:37:24] <TekniQue> it shouldn
[00:37:26] <TekniQue> shouldn't
[00:37:48] <TekniQue> the comms loop is at 100Hz currently
[00:37:56] <malcom2073> Yeah it shouldn't, not at that rate
[00:38:00] <TekniQue> and with maybe 10 user defined vars
[00:38:13] <TekniQue> that means 1000 calls per second which is nothing
[00:38:26] <malcom2073> yeah
[00:38:34] <TekniQue> if I remove just that part from the code, make the parser function just return 42
[00:38:40] <TekniQue> the app uses 0-1% cpu
[00:39:14] <malcom2073> lol
[00:39:36] <TekniQue> and if I severely limit the usefulness of the math parser by blockin re-entrance and running a static instance, it'll parse most of my expressions
[00:39:42] <TekniQue> and still use 0-1% cpu
[00:39:51] <malcom2073> heh
[00:40:26] <TekniQue> it's just the act of creating and destroying instance of the parser class that takes a bloody big amount of resources
[00:40:47] <malcom2073> Heh bad lib
[00:41:22] <TekniQue> well there seems to be short pickings of C/C++ libraries for this very elemental functionality
[00:41:37] <malcom2073> What is it, transfer function parsing?
[00:41:45] <TekniQue> yeah, basic shit
[00:41:48] <malcom2073> yeah
[00:41:52] <malcom2073> I wound up writing my own, but it's inefficient as shit
[00:42:32] <TekniQue> parse a string that says "boost / barometer"
[00:42:54] <TekniQue> figure out that boost and barometer are two variables, invoke a callback to get the values of those variables
[00:43:02] <TekniQue> and figure out that / means divide
[00:43:03] <malcom2073> Oh, that's easy
[00:43:14] <malcom2073> That's what EMStudio does for it's gauges lol
[00:43:15] <TekniQue> very elemental
[00:43:29] <TekniQue> I started writing my own library when I did this a couple years ago
[00:43:34] <malcom2073> yeah
[00:43:36] <TekniQue> or was it 3 years ago
[00:43:53] <TekniQue> but then I figured, this is such elemental stuff there must be hundreds of libraries already
[00:44:25] <TekniQue> and well here I am
[00:45:14] <malcom2073> heh
[00:47:15] <TekniQue> either way, the library works beautifully, it just takes too long to initialise a new class instance
[00:48:36] <TekniQue> and I only found out today because until today I hadn't tried to use it for more than a couple of vars at a time
[00:48:58] <malcom2073> heh
[00:59:00] <TekniQue> well, I've made an ugly workaround
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[03:17:02] <tjtr33> anyone here rent space in a shop? (i'm looking for a way to get 240V 3ph for a single machine, temporarily)
[03:17:42] <furrywolf> static converter, rotary converter, vfd, parking a generator out back and running a cordset in...
[03:17:42] <tjtr33> 10kva, not for motors or spindles
[03:18:28] <tjtr33> outside of the gas gen, those require large single phase to get smaller 3phase i think
[03:18:56] <furrywolf> they're all >90% efficient, but yes, they'll require a substantial single-phase hookup.
[03:19:07] <tjtr33> 10 kva ? :)
[03:19:18] <furrywolf> ?
[03:19:38] <tjtr33> hmm, i was wondering how much i might spend t get a bit of floor space in a shop
[03:19:52] <Tom_itx> they'll want a lease
[03:19:53] <tjtr33> i need 10kva at 240V 3ph
[03:20:08] <zeeshan> tjtr33: thats only 42 A
[03:20:11] <zeeshan> 3 ph :D
[03:20:15] <tjtr33> i'd pop for 6mo up front if not too dear. wondersing about how much
[03:20:26] <tjtr33> right near 40
[03:20:28] <zeeshan> ive been going to a maker space
[03:20:33] <furrywolf> oh, I mis-understood your question. I thought you had a rental shop with only single-phase, and were asking what you could do to get 3-phase, without needing to modify the shop.
[03:20:34] <zeeshan> well that means
[03:20:40] <zeeshan> you just need like 1.414 * 40A
[03:20:50] <zeeshan> vfd =D
[03:20:58] <zeeshan> wrong multiplier
[03:21:01] <tjtr33> yah, not for USA home wiring
[03:21:26] <zeeshan> 1.732
[03:21:31] <zeeshan> wow i cant believe i forgot tha tnumber
[03:21:35] <zeeshan> sqrt 3 =/
[03:21:54] * furrywolf has done very little work with 3-phase, so never remembers anything
[03:22:06] <tjtr33> i have a place now, but its 50+ miles each way, and the gas & time is eating up hrs & money that could be better used
[03:22:18] <zeeshan> tjtr33: honestly if i were in your boat
[03:22:20] <zeeshan> i'd save that money
[03:22:24] <zeeshan> and get another machine :-)
[03:22:32] <zeeshan> on top of your current machine!
[03:22:49] <zeeshan> furrywolf: i saw a fancy 6 phase system
[03:22:59] <zeeshan> "protoype"
[03:23:04] <tjtr33> so both would be 50+ miles away. i dont get it
[03:23:08] <zeeshan> its not practical :)
[03:23:54] <furrywolf> my "shop" is just a rental storage unit...
[03:24:35] <furrywolf> only a single 15A 120V outlet, but I can't really use any of my larger equipment there anyway.
[03:25:10] <tjtr33> furrywolf clever space idea tho. i was hoping for a disused factory in chicago's rust belt
[03:25:39] <tjtr33> someone here was using airplane hangars
[03:25:49] <tjtr33> oh well, ths all!
[03:25:51] <tjtr33> thx
[03:26:10] <zeeshan> ssi
[03:26:14] <zeeshan> http://www.thinkhaus.org/
[03:26:17] <zeeshan> they found a kilm
[03:26:21] <zeeshan> we're trying to restore it
[03:26:26] <zeeshan> and use it to melt aluminum and brass
[03:26:30] <zeeshan> its rated for 1000C
[03:27:24] * furrywolf wants to start a makerspace
[03:28:26] <zeeshan> i thought it was lame at first
[03:28:31] <zeeshan> but there are a lot of cool people
[03:28:36] <zeeshan> with different ideas that go there
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[03:30:41] <furrywolf> I barely have enough time and money to keep my house together, much less trying to start a major project like that.
[03:30:42] <roycroft> i have an older version of this:
[03:30:43] <roycroft> http://products.cressmfg.com/item/industrial-furnaces/models-c-601-and-c401h/pn-1016?
[03:31:04] <roycroft> i got it for heat treating metal
[03:31:06] <zeeshan> im helping fund it
[03:31:10] <zeeshan> for exactly that
[03:31:11] <zeeshan> lol
[03:31:13] <zeeshan> heat treating
[03:31:50] <tjtr33> hamilton ont. cool, i used to do centrifugal casting. small stuff, spring wound caster.
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[03:35:56] <roycroft> i was just reading an article about making bagpipes
[03:36:06] <zeeshan> tjtr33: where are you
[03:36:24] <roycroft> it claims that the chanter bore must be accurate to 0.0005" or it will not work properly
[03:36:35] <roycroft> the chanter is made of african blackwood or rosewood
[03:37:12] <roycroft> although both woods are quite dimensionally stable as far as woods go, i find it hard to believe that one must hold the bore to five tenths
[03:37:31] <roycroft> considering especially that there's a lot of moisture involved in playing bagpiples
[03:37:35] <roycroft> bagpipes
[03:37:40] <tjtr33> zeeshan, elgin il. i know hamilton by working cnc repair from windsor to toronto
[03:37:51] <zeeshan> ah cool :D
[03:37:55] <roycroft> does that dimensional accuracy seem odd to others?
[03:38:00] <furrywolf> considering especially they used to be made by hand, with primitive tools...
[03:38:02] <zeeshan> roycroft: yes it seems very odd
[03:38:18] <roycroft> i could see 0.050"
[03:38:25] <zeeshan> someone misplaced a decimal
[03:38:25] <furrywolf> that tolerance is absurd.
[03:38:25] <zeeshan> :D
[03:38:49] <tjtr33> no, its precision is the sound, and very intuitive when right, not measured right, worked till it sounds right
[03:38:50] <roycroft> i'd be impressed if someone could hold five tenths in wood
[03:40:18] <furrywolf> five tenths, as in, half an inch? that's doable. :P
[03:40:44] * furrywolf doesn't think 5 tenthousandths is remotely feasable
[03:41:00] <roycroft> the wood fibres are thicker than that
[03:46:29] <zeeshan> http://imgur.com/gallery/d2Hvkzt
[03:46:56] <Tecan> sith lord holding cheetah ?
[03:47:00] <zeeshan> lol
[03:47:06] <zeeshan> i want one
[03:48:39] <furrywolf> lol
[03:49:51] <Tecan> thought it was from the new starwars
[03:50:02] <zeeshan> racist
[03:50:18] <Tecan> ?
[03:50:33] <Tecan> seriously did tho
[03:50:50] <Tecan> bad timing i guess
[03:50:50] <furrywolf> huh?
[03:51:11] <Tecan> first glance
[03:51:13] <zeeshan> =]
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[03:56:08] <zeeshan> my brain isnt work correctly :/
[03:56:59] <furrywolf> too easy to be worth it.
[03:57:26] <zeeshan> my encoder is connected at the spindle motor, so when i command 120hz, the motor spins say 1600rpm. the motor encoder will say 1600rpm, but my spindle is spinning at 3150 rpm
[03:57:47] <LeelooMinai> Damn, I almost got a heart attack...
[03:58:02] <zeeshan> how do i let linuxcnc know that when i do s3150 , that it spins at 1600 rpm :/
[03:58:10] <zeeshan> forgot which scaling factor it was
[03:58:12] <zeeshan> LeelooMinai: ?
[03:58:55] <LeelooMinai> I was measuring my table flatness with an indicator attached to punch and inserted into a spindle...
[03:59:37] <LeelooMinai> And wrote the code to step over the table and instead by accident launched the damn default code in linuxcnc and it turned the spindle on...
[03:59:48] <zeeshan> nice
[04:00:20] <furrywolf> heh, the person I bought my sherline from demoed it to me... by flipping the spindle on with the chuck bars still in.
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[04:00:47] * LeelooMinai wonders if an indicator works after doing 16k RPM
[04:01:00] <zeeshan> LOL
[04:01:01] <XXCoder> heys
[04:01:14] <XXCoder> assuming it stays together
[04:01:32] <Cromaglious_> time to put a lock out on the spindle so linuxcnc can try to turn it on
[04:01:48] <Cromaglious_> I have one on my machine
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[04:02:27] <LeelooMinai> I probably should disable it for this test
[04:02:28] <furrywolf> neither of my machines has software spindle control
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[04:02:49] <XXCoder> mine wont either
[04:03:00] <XXCoder> edge router lol
[04:03:05] <zeeshan> borin
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[04:03:09] <RyanS> haha, cool
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRAND-NEW-IN-BOX-GTCP-GARRETT-AIRESEARCH-AIRCRAFT-APU-GAS-TURBINE-ENGINE-/151617464299?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item234d1ae7eb&vxp=mtr
[04:03:11] <zeeshan> software control FTW !
[04:03:23] <XXCoder> RyanS: cheap
[04:03:25] <LeelooMinai> Hmm, maybe I can lock the spindle from linuxcnc somehow?
[04:03:30] <furrywolf> I'll probably toss a ssr in the shoptask box one of these days, but I'll be keeping the manual spindle power switches.
[04:04:00] <LeelooMinai> I setup mine to be modbus controlled
[04:04:13] <Cromaglious_> put a power switch in the spindle power line
[04:04:52] <LeelooMinai> Well, this will be problematic as linuxcnc will start screaming it lost communication
[04:05:09] <LeelooMinai> I think...
[04:06:14] <LeelooMinai> Good the indicator stayed there and did not fly in some random direction:)
[04:06:49] <furrywolf> unlike chuck keys, which always fly straight towards your face. :)
[04:07:04] <XXCoder> chuck keys hate humans
[04:07:10] <furrywolf> and wolves!
[04:07:26] <XXCoder> hmm a question
[04:07:32] <LeelooMinai> On my drill I have a chuck key with a pin on spring, so it cannot be forgotten:)
[04:07:49] <XXCoder> I have bases for my nema 23s, but frame has screws to hold bearing down
[04:07:59] <furrywolf> I hate those. hate, hate, hate. I'd much rather have to remember the chuck key than to fight to use it.
[04:08:00] <XXCoder> and screws block bases :( not sure what to do
[04:08:28] <furrywolf> the one on my drill press is simple... it's attached to a 1ft string. even if you do forget it, it'll either fly one foot, or stall the spindle.
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[04:09:24] <RyanS> it flies towards the face of only those who neglect to take it out :)
[04:09:45] <XXCoder> RyanS: it will find a way anyway
[04:10:57] <Cromaglious_> droooooollll APU would be nice... 139# hr... hmmm might get a bit pricey to run
[04:11:19] <furrywolf> I'm pretty good about not leaving mine in, but people I've worked with... not so much.
[04:13:19] <Cromaglious_> XXCoder, will rotating the base get it to clear obstruction? or at least move obstruction to a place you can mod the mount
[04:13:29] <XXCoder> it worked for one part
[04:13:36] <XXCoder> other 2 nope
[04:13:44] <Cromaglious_> pictures?
[04:13:54] <XXCoder> though I wonder if only one screw would be enough to hold bearing in.
[04:13:57] <XXCoder> sure a sec
[04:14:27] <zeeshan> what do you guys use for g-code for stopping a program
[04:14:28] <Cromaglious_> locate pin and use the mount to do the holding?
[04:14:34] <zeeshan> to say move a clamp for a fixture
[04:14:39] <RyanS> turbo diesel generator might be cheaper running
[04:14:40] <zeeshan> so the end mill doesnt crash into it
[04:14:59] <cradek> zeeshan: that's M0 and M1
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[04:15:41] <zeeshan> but mdi isnt enabled
[04:15:49] <Cromaglious_> zeeshan, haven;t need to yet so have memorized that yet
[04:15:51] <zeeshan> so i need to move the tool somewhere before i call those
[04:15:52] <zeeshan> i guess?
[04:16:06] <Cromaglious_> s/have/haven't/
[04:16:34] <Cromaglious_> yep
[04:17:10] <Cromaglious_> always make a subroutine for it
[04:17:21] <Cromaglious_> bbiab ~~~~ smokey
[04:20:30] <RyanS> muhuhuh 600 amps
http://www.ebay.com/itm/260KW-Gas-Turbine-Generator-standby-emergency-power-outage-remote-farm-/301599666066?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4638bdaf92
[04:22:17] <furrywolf> that's surprisingly cheap.
[04:23:00] <RyanS> yeah, but fuel cost?
[04:24:42] <XXCoder> forgot what site has good image temp yupload
[04:24:46] <XXCoder> imgpaste?
[04:24:48] <furrywolf> fuel cost is small compared to the profits you can make from 260kw of grow lights... or do people elsewhere use generators for different things than they do there? :P
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[04:25:12] <XXCoder> ah picpaste
[04:25:51] <furrywolf> s/do there/do here
[04:25:55] <XXCoder> Cromaglious_:
http://picpaste.com/mountproblem-HVeZH2Wg.jpg
[04:27:13] * furrywolf usually solves mounting problems with a stack of pillows
[04:27:21] <XXCoder> I suppose best way would be simply notch mount at that spot but I dont have anything to do that
[04:27:24] <XXCoder> pillows?
[04:27:34] <XXCoder> ah
[04:28:22] <Cromaglious_> looks like a bit of grinding to relieve where the screw is in the way
[04:28:27] <furrywolf> so the problem is your coupler hits the screws? space the motor mount back with a stack of washers under each corner? (and/or a nice machined spacer, depending on motivation)
[04:28:54] <furrywolf> or if it's just the mount hitting the screws, grind a little notch out of it, like crom said
[04:29:06] <RyanS> ooo yes, power consumption is how they suspect you
[04:29:28] <RyanS> go off grid haha
[04:29:30] <XXCoder> RyanS: led grow lights lol
[04:30:03] <furrywolf> you don't own a single endmill, angle grinder, round file, or other metal-removal tool?
[04:30:15] <XXCoder> I do have angle grinder but dunno where
[04:30:19] <XXCoder> been a long while.
[04:30:48] <Cromaglious_> file?
[04:30:59] <furrywolf> mark where it hits, clamp in drill press, drill screw-head sized hole?
[04:31:01] <zeeshan> http://gyazo.com/60ea7ad2a240d5023923201d5675dc6f
[04:31:02] <XXCoder> hmm thats a idea. will see how far in it does
[04:31:09] <zeeshan> me luf masterheadachecam
[04:31:13] <zeeshan> once you get used to it
[04:31:23] <XXCoder> furrywolf: that would save quite a bit of time filing it.
[04:31:24] <zeeshan> it takes like 3min to program a part
[04:31:33] <zeeshan> well a simple one
[04:32:25] * furrywolf needs to find a good cad program
[04:32:33] <zeeshan> dont you run windows
[04:32:34] <zeeshan> er
[04:32:35] <zeeshan> linux
[04:32:54] <furrywolf> yes
[04:32:57] <zeeshan> nx
[04:32:57] <zeeshan> !
[04:35:00] <furrywolf> ?
[04:36:29] <zeeshan> http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p1nf2Rip56HDm2lXQ2ZrDNq2k5yHArncjWyuFJGZSZguKwGch885j1Ws8FRkQ6xewK8-BwUufGAJO9G7_OZPkGA/Pantallazo.jpg?psid=1
[04:36:33] <zeeshan> it runs in linux
[04:37:16] <zeeshan> has a huge learning curve
[04:37:19] <zeeshan> but its so powerful
[04:37:22] <XXCoder> constrant based?
[04:37:23] <zeeshan> once you do learn it
[04:37:51] <zeeshan> parametric modeling
[04:37:53] <zeeshan> but its not just cad
[04:37:55] <zeeshan> its cad/cam/cae
[04:37:56] <Cromaglious_> wooo boubleboost has a real aloris Phase II qctp BXA on his new lathe
[04:38:06] <zeeshan> lol Cromaglious_
[04:38:14] <zeeshan> did you watch his dro install?
[04:38:15] <Cromaglious_> s/bouble/double/
[04:38:22] <zeeshan> he did a pretty good job
[04:38:23] <Cromaglious_> yep
[04:38:34] <zeeshan> i didnt like how he scraped paint off though
[04:38:38] <zeeshan> i thought that was uncessary
[04:38:44] <zeeshan> he coulda shimmed it to level it
[04:38:53] <Cromaglious_> watching the nightcap 67 P1 right now
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[04:43:26] <Cromaglious_> I've done the same thing was him, using grub screw to level something.. I usually only use three with a central retaining bolt and another bold to keep it from spining
[04:45:17] <zeeshan> nice
[04:45:23] <zeeshan> okay it sbed time, 12:45 am :{
[04:50:28] <XXCoder> 10pnhere
[04:55:32] <Cromaglious_> ditto I15 just north of San Diego County
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[05:08:58] <Cromaglious_> XXCoder, find something to hack away at those mounts?
[05:09:11] <XXCoder> nah too tired to do so
[05:09:37] <XXCoder> went to 2 hour away dibe to help someone clean house then back
[05:09:41] <XXCoder> next weekend is last one
[05:11:50] <Cromaglious_> spent yesterday and today ALL day in the sun putting up the stage for this season of shakespeareinthevines.org the 10th season
[05:12:11] <Cromaglious_> wife is asleep on the couch right now...
[05:12:35] <Cromaglious_> I was conked out a bit myself..
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[05:20:58] <XXCoder> busy day eh
[05:22:37] <Cromaglious_> and we are back out there tomorrow again
[05:22:55] <XXCoder> gonna work 10 hours tomorrow heh
[05:23:02] <Cromaglious_> man I need to get a stick welder
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[05:26:15] <Cromaglious_> 10-12-maybe 16
[05:26:50] <Cromaglious_> only did 11 today, and 13 yeaterday
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[05:44:02] <XXCoder> insane.
http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-fast-furious-stunts-you-wont-believe-were-real/
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[06:00:53] * furrywolf doesn't believe people actually click links to articles like that
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[06:08:41] <XXCoder> furrywolf: most people arent you
[06:08:48] <XXCoder> surpising, I know.
[06:10:06] <furrywolf> I'd go find some of the register's rants on idiotic titles, but I'm too tired.
[06:10:34] <XXCoder> dumb title but interesting read. I was definitely surpised on some stunts
[06:13:02] <Cromaglious_> I like the chevy pickup chopped down to be the drivable vault
[06:13:15] <XXCoder> yeah. guy had to wear special suit
[06:13:19] <Cromaglious_> or the car flipper car
[06:13:34] <Cromaglious_> cool suit...
[06:13:56] <XXCoder> heh flipper would work as part of police anti-chase car
[06:14:04] <Cromaglious_> 12v pump in a cooler full of cool water
[06:14:17] <XXCoder> set trap, drive it in opposite direction. stop criminal driver dead. maybe even literally
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[06:53:27] <Deejay> moin
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[06:58:07] <XXCoder> yo
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[07:11:01] <XXCoder> Cromaglious_:
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8476497152/hA0596F19/ heh
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[09:01:37] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, use scale on your spindle
[09:03:11] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, use M1, M0 for op stop
[09:04:15] <Tom_itx> M1 relies on a softswitch to be on M0 does not
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[09:07:10] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, did you decide to use a sacrificial plate for those?
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[09:12:43] <Tom_itx> zeeshan, you better adjust the cut on that part with no holes or it will break loose when you make the last perimeter cleanup pass
[09:13:03] <Tom_itx> cut the external side first
[09:13:32] <Tom_itx> also the edge will pull up during the cut
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[11:31:45] <jthornton> I also figured out you better put a M5 at the end of each cut...
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[12:14:40] <Tom_itx> yeah, just don't forget to turn it back on
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[12:18:17] <_methods> hehe
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[12:27:43] <JT-Shop> my touchoff sub turns it on
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[13:04:54] <JT-Shop> other than the nurbs speed problem it went well and the customer was happy
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[14:42:32] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: yes sacraficial plate
[14:45:39] <zeeshan> my goal with the flat plate is
[14:45:43] <zeeshan> before it takes out the piece
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[14:45:51] <zeeshan> im gonna pause the spindle
[14:45:51] <ssi> zeee
[14:45:56] <zeeshan> and put a toe clamp on it
[14:46:01] <zeeshan> ssiiiiiiiiii
[14:46:04] <zeeshan> iann
[14:46:08] <ssi> wat is up
[14:46:32] <zeeshan> gonna machine some aluminum parts :p
[14:46:59] <ssi> nice
[14:47:21] <zeeshan> i used to think 1/2" end mill is the most important
[14:47:25] <zeeshan> but it looks like
[14:47:33] <zeeshan> 1/8 and 1/4 are far superior
[14:47:41] <zeeshan> cause certain internal features of parts
[14:47:55] <zeeshan> it sux that they are so fragile :/
[14:48:32] <ssi> yeah
[14:48:41] <ssi> I've broken so many 1/8" endmills :(
[14:48:50] <zeeshan> i broke one in aluminum
[14:48:53] <zeeshan> caus ei wasnt paying attention
[14:48:56] <zeeshan> it was doing a deep slot
[14:49:03] <zeeshan> the chips got packed in the flutes and snap it went
[14:49:06] <zeeshan> :)
[14:50:00] <SpeedEvil> Force monitoring could be handy
[14:50:14] <zeeshan> i have a torque meter
[14:50:21] <zeeshan> just dont have it looped back into linuxcnc
[14:50:25] <SpeedEvil> I mean in an automatic manner
[14:50:33] <SpeedEvil> Both linear and torque
[14:50:39] <zeeshan> youll ned like calibration cruves
[14:50:43] <zeeshan> for different types of cuts though
[14:50:45] <SpeedEvil> though I guess torque alone is useful. Indeed.
[14:50:45] <zeeshan> for it to be any usefu
[14:50:53] <SpeedEvil> Or say 'cal' at the beginning of a job
[14:51:01] <SpeedEvil> at a specific point
[14:51:20] <zeeshan> you mean activate it during a cut you know can be bad
[14:51:26] <zeeshan> (automatically)_
[14:51:30] <zeeshan> and calibrate that portion of the cut
[14:53:03] <SpeedEvil> yes
[14:53:17] <SpeedEvil> Or record it once per job, with sharp tooling
[14:53:40] <zeeshan> there is another cool way to monitor
[14:53:47] <SpeedEvil> Noise?
[14:53:49] <zeeshan> prof was showing an experiment with accel
[14:53:50] <zeeshan> yea
[14:53:58] <zeeshan> chip breaking has a specific frequency
[14:54:02] <zeeshan> that you know from your cutter geometry
[14:54:12] <zeeshan> asap it drifts from that frequency you know something is up
[14:54:25] <zeeshan> accelerometer
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[14:58:02] <zeeshan> http://www.maritool.com/Cutting-Tools-End-Mills-Finishers-Square-End-3-Flute-High-Helix-Square-End-3-Flute/c78_79_80_201_202/p1549/1/8-3-Flute-Carbide-End-Mill-SE-38-Deg-Helix-.500-LOC/product_info.html
[14:58:05] <zeeshan> are these made in usa?
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[15:00:51] <Jymmm> Your carbide end mills are very nicely priced. Are your end mills made in the USA?
[15:00:52] <Jymmm> Yes. Our carbide end mills are made in the USA. We also make sure that the carbide rod is also made in the USA. We stock carbide end mills in a much higher volume than most tooling suppliers. So we are able to pass these savings down to the customer. Also because of our own internal manufacturing we are able to test our own cutting tools and supply more accurate speed and feed recommendations than most.
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[15:05:11] <lair82> Good Morning Gentlemen, Have a question on a 7i49 pwmgen-output, when looking at the output on halscope, even with the gain only set at 1/div the pwmgen-output signal, the value is consistent wether high or low, but it is very "noisy", as in if it goes to say 3vdc, it is bouncing from 3.2-2.8-3.2-2.8 vdc very very quickly. Any thoughts? Those voltages are just for reference, that it is consistent but hovering around a midpoint.
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[15:06:53] <cradek> what pin are you looking at in halscope?
[15:07:28] <lair82> And it can be heard while the axis is jogging, and seen in the axis.#.pos-fb readout. The higher P value the louder it gets.
[15:07:30] <cradek> (with halscope questions, sharing a screenshot is always very helpful)
[15:08:01] <pcw_home> what input scale are you using?
[15:08:13] <tiwake> hmm... their ER collets are priced pretty nicely too
[15:08:55] <lair82> I am looking at the 7i80 pwmgen-out output pin for any axis.
[15:08:57] <cradek> zeeshan: everything I've bought from maritool has been great
[15:08:59] <tiwake> not dirt cheap, but on the cheaper end of the spectrum that I've seen
[15:08:59] <pcw_home> resolvers will use a very low input scale ( 0.2 on a 5 TPI ballscrew inch machine)
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[15:09:52] <lair82> I have the scale at .2, I used my dial indicator, and verified before even turning the power on.
[15:10:07] <pcw_home> what P term?
[15:10:17] <lair82> 5 revs of the ballscrew was 1.000" on the dial.
[15:10:23] <tiwake> cradek: is that where you buy most of your stuff?
[15:10:28] <tiwake> tooling
[15:10:49] <lair82> even at 5 on the P it gets pretty loud, and bouncy on the display.
[15:11:15] <pcw_home> what is output scale?
[15:11:34] <cradek> tiwake: I don't buy much now, but I bought a full setup for my vmc some years back, probably $2k
[15:12:02] <lair82> I cannot figure out how to get the screen shot utility working on this debian machine. I have been varying the output scale from 1 all the way up to 10.
[15:12:12] <cradek> tiwake: mostly ER collets and chucks, end mill holders, knobs, some end mills
[15:12:31] <pcw_home> 10 is probably close to right
[15:13:16] <pcw_home> all other PID terms set to 0?
[15:13:53] <lair82> yep, I, D, FF0, FF1, FF2, are all 0.
[15:14:52] <pcw_home> how much noise on the position when not moving (and P set t0 0) ?
[15:15:31] <lair82> I checked the mechanicals of the resolver in relation to the ballscrew, and there is no backlash anywhere.
[15:15:58] <lair82> Let me check that.
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[15:19:13] <lair82_> Looking at it, there is no noise, but a very slow creep in the negative direction
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[15:22:08] <pcw_home> can you disable the drive? (so it does not creep)
[15:23:15] <pcw_home> then you should be able to set the gain up and read the noise (you may need to set ac coupled mode in halscope)
[15:24:04] <skunkworks> halscope is pretty awesome
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[15:31:22] <zeeshan> thanks Jymmm and cradek
[15:32:07] <zeeshan> its just fishy they arent made in usa?
[15:32:11] <zeeshan> *marked
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[15:38:32] <lair82_> Looking at with thedrive disabled, it looks nice and smooth
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[15:53:38] <lair82_> Finally got a screenshot of what it looks like,
http://postimg.org/image/fe85a6jlx/
[15:55:20] <lair82_> I have tried both x and y axis of the machine, and they both are running this way.
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[15:59:00] <zeeshan> mad oscillation!
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[16:06:20] <lair82> That's how we roll !!, I can't figure out for the life of me whats wrong, it is a Siemens 6RB-2030 Drive unit, and the machine was fully functional before I gutted it and put Linuxcnc on it. Absolutely no issues with the drives oscillating, or hammering like it is now.
[16:07:23] <zeeshan> have you got P adjusted?
[16:07:50] <pcw_home> PWM set to mode 2?
[16:08:31] <lair82> Yep I have mode 2 on all three pwm's, and I am at 24 khz on the the setp value.
[16:09:29] <pcw_home> what output scale?
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[16:12:15] <lair82> I set it to 10, and it is still there.
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[16:14:26] <pcw_home> lookin at the plot I would say the 7I49 is over driven
[16:15:04] <pcw_home> (no oscillation when stopped)
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[16:23:38] <lair82> over driven?
[16:25:11] <archivist> zeeshan, found a book I had not catalogued yet on machining copper and the alloys, states tool wear is high due to the copper burnishing the cutter, use a high rake with polished surface
[16:29:02] <pcw_home> too much input signal so you have position jumps
[16:29:11] <zeeshan> archivist: nice
[16:30:07] <zeeshan> unfortunately youd need a special high helix drill
[16:30:10] <zeeshan> to change the rake for drilling
[16:30:11] <zeeshan> =/
[16:30:14] <archivist> published by the copper development association
[16:31:03] <lair82> INI settings need adjusted then?
[16:32:03] <pcw_home> no, 7I49 settings possibly
[16:33:49] <archivist> zeeshan, google the machining of copper and its alloys and the copper development assoc has a pdf download, save me scanning
[16:34:52] <lair82> Would that be firmware level, or something I can manipulate via the HAL file?
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[16:36:42] <pcw_home> something you change with a jumper
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[16:40:32] <lair82> Would that be changing the reference:output ratio to the 1:1 setting?
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[17:04:22] <PCW> "Would that be changing the reference:output ratio to the 1:1 setting? "
[17:04:23] <PCW> Yes I think you had to do that before
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[17:11:23] <CaptHindsight> http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/245083 and not even 3d printed :)
[17:11:37] <CaptHindsight> ^^ A Father-Son Team Raises $10 Million for Their Beekeeping Invention on Indiegogo
[17:22:26] <ssi> yea I've been watching that
[17:25:23] <marmite> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDDSis4VAAEPhBN.jpg any ideas why my printer does this on pla
[17:26:56] <ssi> temp control problems?
[17:27:34] <archivist> its dead jim
[17:28:22] <ssi> XXCoder: around?
[17:29:12] <Tom_itx> zeeshan even with a toe clamp you may wanna cut the outside part before the inside on that one piece
[17:29:35] <Tom_itx> that way you can clamp it and not have to worry about the cutter passing thru it
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[17:39:38] <XXCoder> ssi: yo
[17:43:15] <ssi> XXCoder: I've been 100% soylent three days now, and the two days before that had only dinner out
[17:43:32] <XXCoder> hows it working out
[17:43:36] <ssi> not bad!
[17:44:04] <ssi> it sticks with me between meals just fine, I'm definitely losing weight, and no headaches or anything abnormal
[17:46:00] <XXCoder> yeah it definitely keeps me full just fine
[17:46:49] <XXCoder> no room clearing vents?
[17:47:16] <ssi> nope!
[17:47:50] <ssi> I've been doing different formulas too... I have a week supply of soylent (1.4 I think? whatever the latest is), and a week sampler of schmoylent/schmilk in different flavors, plus I had some of that spaceman shit
[17:47:58] <ssi> I didn't like the spaceman shit, too much whole seed
[17:48:13] <ssi> the schmilk is really good though, only downside being having to stock a bunch of milk
[17:49:04] <XXCoder> yeah and milks bit pricy some places
[17:51:32] <ssi> I'm not so worried about the price
[17:51:38] <ssi> plus the schmilk is cheaper
[17:51:39] <ssi> $50/wk
[17:51:48] <ssi> so even with the milk, it's still cheaper than soylent
[17:51:55] <XXCoder> interestig
[17:52:01] <ssi> half gallon of milk a day, milk is about $3/gal, and I'd run through 3.5 gal/day
[17:54:05] <ssi> er, 3.5 gal/wk
[17:54:06] <ssi> heh
[17:54:13] <XXCoder> lol
[17:54:37] <XXCoder> 3.5 gal a day store employees would give you preffered entrance lol
[17:54:47] <XXCoder> as well as start calling you "milk man"
[17:54:52] <ssi> hahaha
[17:55:28] <XXCoder> 24.5 gal a day lol
[17:55:41] <XXCoder> doh made same mistake
[17:55:46] <XXCoder> s/day/week
[17:55:51] <ssi> heheheh
[17:56:07] <ssi> the schmilk is really tasty tho
[17:56:23] <ssi> it tastes like what you get when you get to the end of a box of cereal and it's all powder in the bottom, and you dump that in milk
[17:56:34] <XXCoder> played with flovoring your soylent?
[17:56:42] <ssi> yeah but only with hot chocolate mix
[17:56:47] <ssi> that's what I'm having right now actually
[17:59:17] <lair82> PCW ,Question I have always had, and now wonder about again, in regards to the 7i49, do the analog outs have to match the resolver input1, example X axis is resolver-0 aout0, or can I have resolver-0 aout1?
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[18:01:27] <XXCoder> ssi: evenually want to try this
http://discourse.soylent.me/t/soylent-1-4-taste-creations-a-compilation/20819
[18:01:53] <XXCoder> be back though
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[18:02:57] <ssi> XXCoder: I ordered one of these too
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JBUCBHK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[18:03:03] <ssi> it was delivered about an hour ago
[18:03:05] <ssi> but I'm at work :D
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[18:06:26] <PCW> lair82: no thers no connection between the analog outs and the resolver inputs except in your HAL file
[18:20:36] <XXCoder> ssi: nice. some people do like to blend soylent
[18:20:43] <XXCoder> I just use blend bottle
[18:20:58] <XXCoder> http://www.amazon.com/BlenderBottle-Classic-Shaker-Bottle-Clear/dp/B00MVMCUK8/ref=sr_1_1?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1429554049&sr=1-1&keywords=blend+bottle
[18:21:34] <ssi> yea I Have blender bottles
[18:21:45] <ssi> I want to be able to mill up my own formulas too though
[18:21:53] <XXCoder> cnc mill ;)
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[18:22:25] <XXCoder> soylent has diy site where you input ingerents and it will state whats percent of nuturants in it
[18:22:28] <ssi> yeah I know
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[18:23:50] <XXCoder> cool
[18:24:06] <XXCoder> theres diy that uses all fruits and veggies
[18:24:14] <XXCoder> expensive but "all natural" :P
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[18:48:59] <zeeshan> ssi thats an expensive blender ;-)
[18:50:12] <Tom_itx> z, got your bracket welded up yet???
[18:50:21] <zeeshan> no
[18:50:26] <zeeshan> i am going to go home in a bit
[18:50:34] <zeeshan> and likely do it tonight :p
[18:50:43] <zeeshan> i need to machine some stainless tensile test samples too
[18:50:51] <zeeshan> i was looking up feeds and speeds
[18:50:52] <Tom_itx> did you see my comment about cutter path above?
[18:51:01] <zeeshan> yea, i think youre overthinking it :P
[18:51:06] <zeeshan> if it breaks a cutter
[18:51:07] <Tom_itx> nope
[18:51:07] <zeeshan> it breaks it
[18:51:08] <zeeshan> :)
[18:51:09] <Tom_itx> never
[18:51:21] <zeeshan> if this prototype works
[18:51:26] <zeeshan> ill just make a fixture for it
[18:51:39] <zeeshan> with protrusions that fit in the slots
[18:51:52] <zeeshan> and if that flat piece lifts up
[18:51:55] <zeeshan> ill just cut it on the bandsaw
[18:51:57] <zeeshan> and skip it
[18:52:21] <Tom_itx> or leave .020" and pop the parts out
[18:52:40] <zeeshan> 20 thou from bottom?
[18:52:46] <zeeshan> i like that idea more
[18:52:46] <zeeshan> lol
[18:52:51] <zeeshan> then i dont need to use a toe clamp
[18:53:00] <Tom_itx> we did that quite a bit on small parts etc
[18:53:17] <Tom_itx> maybe not quite .020" that might be hard to pop out
[18:53:37] <zeeshan> i left 10 thou
[18:53:42] <zeeshan> for one of the othe rparts
[18:53:44] <zeeshan> i forget what
[18:53:46] <zeeshan> and it worked ok
[18:53:52] <Tom_itx> yeah
[18:54:00] <zeeshan> then i took a blade and cut it out
[18:54:30] <Tom_itx> .005 and you can use a debur blade
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[19:00:30] <lair82> PCW , ok I tried it anyway, and it worked of course, and, now it is nice and smooth, after I moved it to the 1:1 on the W2 jumper, Thank You, all along I was figuring on something feedback wise, but I thought it was mechanical, not electrical.
[19:00:31] <zeeshan> why is fswizard telling me only 100 sfm using carbide end mill
[19:00:32] <zeeshan> for stainless?
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[19:16:28] <andypugh> I am wondering what use this is:
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Machines-Accessories/End-Mill-Re-Sharpening-Module
[19:16:46] <andypugh> I don’t think I have ever blunted a carbide end-mill. I just break them.
[19:18:46] <zeeshan> lol
[19:19:21] <zeeshan> andypugh: i have to machine some tensile test samples :/
[19:19:23] <zeeshan> 304 SS
[19:19:28] <zeeshan> 0.040 thick astm medium size
[19:19:50] <zeeshan> im thinking of stacking 12 of them at a time
[19:19:59] <zeeshan> clamping from where the grippers would grip from
[19:20:06] <zeeshan> (toe clamps) and going at it
[19:20:25] <andypugh> You need:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rohm-Face-Driver-for-lathe-CNC-turning-milling-machine-engineering-etc-/111649989271?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item19fedba297
[19:20:51] <zeeshan> what is it
[19:21:29] <andypugh> It’s a drive centre for a lathe. It means you can machine all cyclindrical surfaces of a tensile test specimen to absolute concentricity.
[19:21:39] <zeeshan> they arent cylindrical
[19:21:43] <zeeshan> they are out of flat sheet
[19:21:48] <andypugh> In that case you don’t need that :-)
[19:21:51] <zeeshan> hehe
[19:22:08] <XXCoder> zeeshan: careful you got some rep as lathe man ;)
[19:22:12] <andypugh> I want that, but don’t want to afford it.
[19:22:24] <zeeshan> XXCoder: lol
[19:23:29] <zeeshan> im deciding whether its better to go full depth
[19:23:37] <zeeshan> and just take 30 thou cuts
[19:23:40] <zeeshan> or do it in steps
[19:23:46] <zeeshan> dont wanna break this end mill :/
[19:23:54] <zeeshan> well its a 3/8, so pretty hard to break
[19:24:35] <andypugh> You probably want to worry more about the material
[19:25:02] <andypugh> We would normally wire-EDM such things to make sure we didn’t affect the material properties by machining.
[19:25:13] <zeeshan> they are too cheap to do that
[19:25:14] <zeeshan> lol
[19:25:31] <zeeshan> also the substrate isnt that critical
[19:25:38] <zeeshan> from ive been told
[19:25:46] <zeeshan> how i laminate after is important
[19:25:57] <zeeshan> cause the polymer film will fail first
[19:26:05] <zeeshan> not the 304 stainless
[19:26:17] <andypugh> Ah, OK.
[19:26:45] <zeeshan> from the machining course what ive learned is this:
[19:27:01] <zeeshan> if you dont feed correctly, thats is when you get thermal stresses
[19:27:07] <zeeshan> which causes residual stresses on the surface
[19:27:36] <zeeshan> who knows how accurate that relationship is :P
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[19:29:20] <XXCoder> isnt there folumbias
[19:31:02] <zeeshan> ??
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[19:40:59] <zeeshan> i think fswizard is b roken
[19:41:03] <zeeshan> now its telling me 780sfm
[19:41:03] <zeeshan> lol
[19:41:05] <zeeshan> er
[19:41:18] <zeeshan> nm :p
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[19:52:30] <Deejay> namd
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[20:49:25] <Deejay> gn8
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[20:51:27] <Tom_itx> zeeshan are we having fun yet?
[20:52:08] <Tom_itx> i used to cut quite a few test specimens from large blocks for various tests
[20:52:12] <Tom_itx> round and flat
[20:52:18] <Tom_itx> both grain directions
[20:52:23] <zeeshan> nice
[20:52:29] <zeeshan> no machining yet :P
[20:52:38] <Tom_itx> the flat was usually around 1/4" thick
[20:52:41] <zeeshan> i decided on how to clamp it
[20:52:45] <zeeshan> toe clamps from the side
[20:52:54] <zeeshan> to one side of tensile test slamp
[20:53:05] <zeeshan> then move the clamps over
[20:53:10] <Tom_itx> are you concerned about grain direction?
[20:53:12] <zeeshan> with a 3rd clamp holding it in place temporarily
[20:53:13] <zeeshan> yea
[20:53:22] <Tom_itx> if so, i'd advise marking it with a magic marker etc
[20:53:23] <zeeshan> within a couple degrees is ok
[20:53:55] <zeeshan> the grain is parallel with the edge already
[20:53:57] <zeeshan> when i sheared it
[20:54:06] <zeeshan> i squared the sheet w/ the shear
[20:56:33] <Tom_itx> i think the worst thing we ever machined was tungsten
[20:58:44] <Tom_itx> and you had to be careful not to drop it or it would crack
[20:58:44] * furrywolf has never owned tungsten in machinable-sized pieces
[20:59:14] <Tom_itx> these were probably 6-8" long
[20:59:24] <Tom_itx> maybe 1 1/2" thick
[20:59:32] <Tom_itx> for wing ballast
[20:59:54] <zeeshan> would you machine it with carbide?
[21:00:00] <Tom_itx> they were cut into wedges of various sizes with bolt holes
[21:00:04] <Tom_itx> zeeshan yes
[21:00:11] <zeeshan> what are the chips like?
[21:00:12] <zeeshan> powder?
[21:00:17] <zeeshan> similar to cast iron?
[21:00:31] <Tom_itx> i honestly don't remember now
[21:01:28] <zeeshan> lol its 60-65 hrc
[21:01:29] <zeeshan> wut
[21:01:40] <andypugh> I had to make a set of tensile test specimens from 3 x 2.5” x 18” x 12” pressure-vessel steel and 2 x stainless blocks the same size, electron-beam welded end-to-end. That started with a several days on the band-saw with a paint marker.
[21:01:44] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa6f2huW_6A
[21:02:04] <zeeshan> rofl andypugh
[21:02:09] <Tom_itx> most of the ballast we machined was lead but if it had to go in a tight space they were tungsten
[21:03:21] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qvVa7mSFIg
[21:03:22] <zeeshan> damn.
[21:03:33] <zeeshan> that thing is raping steal
[21:03:35] <zeeshan> steel
[21:04:37] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwqdzVeVoW8
[21:04:40] <zeeshan> interesting tool path
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[21:11:20] <andypugh> I have considered trying that as it seems like there should be less bending force on the tool.
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[21:17:02] <SpeedEvil> hah -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qvVa7mSFIg @2:51 is just what I was recently considering doing with a circular sawblade in wood as a thicknesser
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[22:06:15] <zeeshan-mill> time for some action
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[22:08:00] <Tom_itx> we would plunge mill large areas like that, it's quicker removal with less warpage
[22:08:13] <Tom_itx> we didn't use that big a cutter though
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[22:15:27] <zeeshan-mill> ?
[22:15:29] <zeeshan-mill> !!?!
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[23:01:15] <robin_sz> So, this is uber kewl
[23:02:03] <robin_sz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyN-CRNrb3E
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[23:02:21] <robin_sz> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyN-CRNrb3E
[23:02:26] <robin_sz> coolest thing ever
[23:04:33] <malcom2073> Nice!
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[23:11:46] * furrywolf ponders if youtube attempts to deduce person-person relationships based on groups of clicks on video links
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[23:17:14] <malcom2073> I'd be amazed if google didn't
[23:17:31] <malcom2073> I should file a patent on that
[23:17:33] <malcom2073> see if google hits
[23:18:34] <furrywolf> lol
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[23:20:00] <LeelooMinai> Any opinios/tips/experiences with generating g-code in programmatic way?
[23:22:07] <LeelooMinai> Don't tell me you write it directly by hand all the time:)
[23:26:21] <SpeedEvil> naah. Punched cards
[23:26:44] <malcom2073> Like... CAM software?
[23:27:08] <LeelooMinai> No, programming-something that will generate g-code
[23:27:57] <Rab> LeelooMinai, I've seen several scripts to do parametric g-code generation for specific parts like gears.
[23:28:29] <jdh> there are lots of g-code generators listed in the wiki
[23:30:18] <LeelooMinai> Which wiki?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-code <- here?
[23:30:26] <furrywolf> ... no
[23:30:48] <furrywolf> wikipedia is not the only wiki. :P
[23:30:59] <furrywolf> (and it's getting increasingly bad at even being a wiki...)
[23:31:00] <LeelooMinai> Yes, well, that's why I asked...
[23:31:01] <jdh> *the* wiki
[23:31:31] <jdh> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Simple_EMC_G-Code_Generators
[23:32:45] <LeelooMinai> I see. No, that's not really what I had in mind. I meant something covering g-code in general, but more sane to write.
[23:33:19] <jdh> there is a.. thing
[23:33:22] <furrywolf> heh, write a language that looks like C but translates to g-code?
[23:33:36] <jdh> yea, there is something like that
[23:33:37] <LeelooMinai> Yes, something like that
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[23:34:01] <LeelooMinai> I am more asking if someone here uses any language on top of g-code
[23:35:00] <SpeedEvil> What do you mean?
[23:35:22] <LeelooMinai> Come on... I already wrote what I mean.
[23:35:53] <SpeedEvil> Not in a manner I understood.
[23:36:28] <LeelooMinai> I don't know which part was not understood though:)
[23:36:34] <furrywolf> SpeedEvil: I think she wants something where she can write rapid(x+5,z=2); feed(f=1,x+-1,z=3); etc instead of having to figure out g-code.
[23:37:07] <LeelooMinai> Well, that would be small part of it, but loops, functions, etc. units
[23:37:17] <SpeedEvil> LeelooMinai: openscad?
[23:37:33] <LeelooMinai> Just something sane instead of typing g-code as it's not really meant for humans
[23:37:41] <furrywolf> openscad has two main functions... takeforever() and segfault().
[23:37:51] <Rab> LeelooMinai, can you describe a usage scenario? Input X to accomplish Y task?
[23:38:08] <furrywolf> oh, and generatebrokenmesh()
[23:38:15] <Tom_itx> LeelooMinai, JT-Shop has done some gcode stuff
[23:39:12] <LeelooMinai> Ok, say now - I need to place the probe in 64 places on the table and note the results. Of course I want to write some loops withing 10 lines, instead of trying to type ugly unmaintainable and hard to read/debug gcode.
[23:39:47] <LeelooMinai> So sane programming language -> compile/generate -> g-code
[23:40:00] * furrywolf installs flex and bison on leeloo's box
[23:40:04] <LeelooMinai> Like c vs assembly, where g is the assembly part
[23:40:21] <furrywolf> (or lex and yacc, if you want to be old-school)
[23:40:40] <LeelooMinai> furrywolf: ...
[23:41:08] <furrywolf> those tools will do exactly what you want. :P
[23:41:15] <furrywolf> only some configuration needed. :)
[23:41:48] <LeelooMinai> furrywolf: It's like telling someone who want's to compile C to write the compiler instead of pointing to gcc - fail:)
[23:42:27] * furrywolf has written a C compiler, using lex and yacc...
[23:42:45] <LeelooMinai> furrywolf: And I have done many more impressive things, but that's not the point
[23:42:58] <furrywolf> lol
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[23:43:14] <furrywolf> unfortunately for you, I'm not bored enough right now to write it for you.
[23:43:34] <LeelooMinai> Yes, I did not ask anyone to write it though
[23:43:42] <LeelooMinai> Just asked for opinion
[23:44:08] <furrywolf> it actually would be pretty easy... generating g-code from a simple c-like syntax is much easier than a proper compiler with pointers etc.
[23:44:28] <SpeedEvil> yeah - the constraints are a bitch though
[23:44:51] <LeelooMinai> http://www.vagrearg.org/content/gcmc
[23:44:57] <furrywolf> garbage in, garbage out. :)
[23:45:04] <Tom_itx> http://gnipsel.com/files/g-code-generator/
[23:45:07] <Tom_itx> LeelooMinai
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[23:45:45] <LeelooMinai> Tom_itx: That seems to be some image to g-code thing
[23:45:58] <LeelooMinai> The one I linked seems to be more what I had in mind
[23:46:00] <Tom_itx> you didn't look very far
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[23:46:42] <LeelooMinai> Tom_itx: Well, your link is just some directory with zips
[23:46:58] <Tom_itx> you know what to do with zips?
[23:46:59] <furrywolf> .zip? who the heck uses .zip?
[23:47:08] <Tom_itx> open it and run it
[23:47:21] <Tom_itx> it's a python code thing he's working on
[23:47:22] <LeelooMinai> Tom_itx: No, that's what you do not do with zips:)
[23:47:30] <jdh> gcmc was what I was thinking of.
[23:47:39] * furrywolf probably doesn't have zip installed
[23:48:35] <LeelooMinai> Right, that gcmc seems to be much saner than direct g-code
[23:48:47] <furrywolf> it's been a while, but I seem to remember optimizing register allocation to be one of the things I found most annoying...
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[23:49:41] <furrywolf> gcmc looks similar to what I was envisioning.
[23:49:58] <LeelooMinai> I guess other alternative would be just using/writing some library, say for Java, so one has all the power of the original language and tools for it.
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[23:50:20] <furrywolf> ... Java sucks.
[23:50:31] <LeelooMinai> No it doesn't:)
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[23:50:53] * furrywolf has written enough of it to be sure
[23:51:24] <LeelooMinai> I have probably written more.
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[23:51:59] <LeelooMinai> In any case, this would require a bit more initial code investment.
[23:52:42] <furrywolf> quite possible. largest thing I wrote in it was a statistics program with basic spreadsheet, graph, and regression functions. second-largest was a syntax-highlighting editor.
[23:52:45] <LeelooMinai> But I will look at that gcmc. The problem I see with it is that one will have to use normal editor - that is with no support for context/semantics.
[23:53:32] <LeelooMinai> A bit of pita for me - I am used to proper ones.
[23:53:39] <furrywolf> it's close enough to C that many things will probably highlight it fine.
[23:54:12] <LeelooMinai> Right, but that's a big maybe and kind of wishful thinking:)
[23:54:35] <LeelooMinai> It has some weird constructs like vector notation, say [1,-,0]
[23:54:47] <LeelooMinai> Where "-" means "don't move"
[23:55:02] <LeelooMinai> Kind of nice, but it's outside of C
[23:55:34] <furrywolf> that's still very close to valid C, and should highlight.
[23:55:52] <furrywolf> [1,-0,0] would be valid C, for example
[23:55:55] <Rab> You can always write or modify an existing syntax highlighting scheme.
[23:55:59] <furrywolf> pointless, but valid.
[23:56:09] <LeelooMinai> Yes, basic highlighting may work, but not a semantic one.
[23:56:25] <furrywolf> the comma operator is downright useless, imho. :P
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[23:58:02] <furrywolf> as far as I know, its only non-useless use is within for loop declarations.
[23:58:19] <furrywolf> and inline blocks or something would have made more sensor. :)
[23:58:21] <furrywolf> sense
