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[01:36:15] <LeelooMinai> zeeshan: If you RPI, this may be worth checking for analog/digital (just briefly looked at it - has reasonable price):
https://pi-plates.com/product/daqcplate/
[01:36:25] <LeelooMinai> If you have RPI*
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[05:20:49] <XXCoder> Alive!
[05:20:59] <XXCoder> got my cnc royter frame woot
[05:21:12] <XXCoder> gonna build it soonish, then wait for engine mounts lol
[05:25:21] <XXCoder> zeeshan: whats up with your cnc
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[06:51:11] <Deejay> moin
[06:52:34] <XXCoder> yo
[06:53:44] <renesis> 05:20 < XXCoder> got my cnc royter frame woot
[06:53:55] <XXCoder> yep
[06:53:55] <renesis> haha i read that as i got my cnc router from woot
[06:54:01] <XXCoder> lol
[06:54:09] <renesis> ikr, weird day on woot
[06:54:11] <XXCoder> that'd be new one. I havent visited woot for a while
[06:54:22] <XXCoder> ..
[06:54:23] <renesis> i was going to just say i havent been to woot in years
[06:54:26] <XXCoder> theyre selling bed now
[06:54:32] <renesis> was my homepage at some point
[06:54:33] <XXCoder> oh memory foam
[06:54:46] <renesis> you can get those cheap at overstock anyway
[06:55:37] <renesis> you can get ones with 3 seperate layers, one of which is very high density foam, for like $200 or something
[06:56:12] <XXCoder> not bad indeed
[06:56:13] <renesis> i get theyre slightly undersized, for RV, they kind of look ugly under fitted sheets when they get misaligned
[06:56:20] <renesis> but yeah awesome to sleep in anyway
[06:56:40] <renesis> and when i got another bed, i cut the dense layer into sleeping bag pads
[06:57:01] <renesis> *guess theyre
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[06:57:44] <renesis> also, i could roll up the individual layers and fit them into car
[06:58:34] <renesis> haha, once i managed to stuff a non-layered queen size mem foam mattress into the back of a volvo 740
[06:58:52] <renesis> so many reasons to never sleep on metal every again
[07:00:35] <XXCoder> lol
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[11:27:56] * jthornton used to sleep on metal grating in the engine room with two 16 cylinder EMD's screaming at 900 RPM
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[11:52:20] <rob_h> lol jthornton no way to talk about the wife
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[12:12:15] <jthornton> lol
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[12:30:48] <_abc_> Hello. Does anyone know where I could look for the pinout of a generic Chinese breakout board like the one in this pic:
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/1384427/18629174/0/1297867434/DSP_SYSTEM_FOR_CNC_ROUTER.jpg
[12:31:03] <_abc_> I would like to use it with Linuxcnc and not derive the pinout by hand...
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[13:50:50] <JT-Shop> normal service has been restored after the power blink
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[13:51:41] <_methods> happy easter
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[14:34:25] <Cromaglious> off to the Southern pleasure faire today
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[15:13:42] * Tom_itx gives _methods a chocolate easter bunny
[15:14:15] <Jymmm> _methods: Don't do it, it's a hollow gesture ;)
[15:15:17] <_methods> buwhahaha
[15:15:31] <_methods> mythical egg laying rodent day
[15:16:04] <Jymmm> Easter Bunny is REAL damnit!
[15:16:23] <_methods> fo sho
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[15:19:19] * JT-Shop doesn't seem to have an ISA network card anywhere...
[15:19:36] <Tom_itx> you need one?
[15:19:59] <JT-Shop> I was going to put one in the VMC to see if I could put it on my LAN
[15:20:05] <_methods> wow
[15:20:11] <_methods> now that's an easter egg hunt
[15:20:17] <Tom_itx> it runs DOS?
[15:20:27] <Jymmm> _methods: Not really
[15:20:30] <Tom_itx> that would be a challenge
[15:20:45] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Nope, no problem there
[15:20:51] <_methods> i don't think i have any isa cards layin around anymore
[15:21:03] <Tom_itx> i think i have a couple if you wanna try one
[15:21:09] <Jymmm> 3C509
[15:21:30] <Jymmm> 3C509 with real mode packet drivers works great under MS-DOS
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[15:21:49] <Tom_itx> is that a chipset or what?
[15:22:04] <Jymmm> It's a TYPE of driver
[15:22:25] <Jymmm> supports multiple 3c509's too.
[15:24:04] <JT-Shop> no biggie I was just fooling around to see what what in the EL box and seen it had a couple 16bit and an 8bit ISA slots
[15:24:52] <JT-Shop> dang I have 7 orders to pack up
[15:25:39] <_methods> oh that sounds like a horrible problem to have lol
[15:25:54] <Jymmm> what _methods said
[15:28:48] <Tom_itx> better than having the orders and having to make the parts for them first
[15:30:04] <JT-Shop> my store won't let you order if I'm out of stock
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[16:43:41] <JT-Shop> dang still can't get the debian box in the beer cave to work on the LAN
[16:48:40] <_methods> usb ethernet?
[16:48:53] <_methods> or wiring it in?
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[17:44:54] <pcw_home> our old easter buns:
[17:44:55] <pcw_home> http://freeby.mesanet.com/elsie_java4.png
[17:45:14] <XXCoder> how long did they live?
[17:46:27] <zeeshan> archivist: are you there
[17:46:34] <zeeshan> pcw_home: nice
[17:46:48] <pcw_home> both still with us (elsie is ~10)
[17:47:01] <zeeshan> what do they eat
[17:47:14] <archivist> zeeshan, just got back from playing steam engines
[17:47:14] <XXCoder> thats good :) so many easter bunnies only last year or 2 due to bad diets (or nothing but carrots!)
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[17:47:23] <zeeshan> hi archivist that auction is ending soon :P
[17:47:26] <pcw_home> hay mostly and fresh vegetables
[17:47:27] <zeeshan> will you reship? :-)
[17:47:33] <XXCoder> or left out
[17:47:43] <zeeshan> it wont let me bid on it
[17:47:48] <zeeshan> cause it knwos im from canada :{
[17:48:05] <XXCoder> no eh allowed ;)
[17:48:09] <zeeshan> hehe
[17:48:38] <zeeshan> nm
[17:48:39] <zeeshan> it let me bid!
[17:48:54] <XXCoder> Hmm
[17:48:58] <XXCoder> I has a TB6560
[17:49:08] <XXCoder> I wonder if I could drive 48v spindle on it
[17:49:17] <archivist> zeeshan, yes can do
[17:49:21] <zeeshan> thank you
[17:49:26] <zeeshan> ill ask him first if he will ship
[17:49:32] <zeeshan> if not, then i ask you :)
[17:49:34] <zeeshan> thanks!
[17:50:34] <archivist> direct ship!, I wanted to test it and compare to mine :)
[17:50:39] <zeeshan> haha
[17:52:40] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/DDaVVEx.png
[17:52:55] <zeeshan> my plan to make this weird part is..
[17:53:16] <zeeshan> drill all the holes while holding the work piece in a vise
[17:53:45] <zeeshan> after drilling, then i mount this plate to a sacraficial piece of aluminum that it gets bolted down to
[17:54:23] <zeeshan> and then machine away
[17:54:28] <zeeshan> any other suggestions to do it easier?
[17:54:47] <zeeshan> maybe i can clamp the sacraficial piece and this together using machinist clamps
[17:54:58] <zeeshan> and drill the holes so that way i can just bolt them down using a nut and a bolt?
[17:55:02] <XXCoder> well
[17:55:03] <zeeshan> without losing alignment? :P
[17:55:14] <XXCoder> you can do this this way - mill not all way down
[17:55:24] <zeeshan> i cant do that for this piece :(
[17:55:27] <XXCoder> but block is thicker than final peice
[17:55:32] <zeeshan> the closest side i have without much waste is 3/8"
[17:55:35] <XXCoder> flip and facemill off
[17:55:46] <zeeshan> this part is .350 thick
[17:55:49] <zeeshan> some od ball thickness
[17:55:55] <XXCoder> tough
[17:55:58] <XXCoder> hmm
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[17:56:58] <XXCoder> other way is switching sides
[17:57:04] <XXCoder> clamp /declamp
[17:57:08] <archivist> or mount on spacers
[17:57:18] <XXCoder> or do inside first with outside clamps
[17:57:19] <zeeshan> mount on spacers?
[17:57:23] <XXCoder> then switch to inside
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[17:57:28] <XXCoder> *inside clamops
[17:57:54] <XXCoder> do outside profile. done
[17:57:55] <archivist> spacers under the holes you drilled first
[17:58:43] <XXCoder> yeah thats another way. drill just holes, add bolts there then it can do rest
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[18:00:33] <Tom_itx> zeeshan i'd do it all on the plate
[18:00:44] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZjvPn2oMSY
[18:00:58] <XXCoder> first thought I had is "now thats safety hazard"
[18:01:08] <Tom_itx> drill & tap the sacrificial plate ahead
[18:01:21] <Tom_itx> then drill your holes normally, add bolts and away you go
[18:01:41] <Tom_itx> unless of course it's finished all sides
[18:01:54] <Tom_itx> then you can pre flycut the 2 flats
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[18:03:31] <Tom_itx> dowel pin 2 if you need to
[18:03:46] <Tom_itx> or add 2 dowel pins in the center
[18:03:56] <Tom_itx> bolt before you remove them and cut the center out
[18:04:32] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: sounds advanced
[18:04:33] <zeeshan> lol
[18:04:44] <Tom_itx> what's all those extra circular cuts in the middle?
[18:04:45] <zeeshan> you guys are making me do more work!
[18:04:49] <Tom_itx> those are wasted time
[18:04:54] <zeeshan> ramping down
[18:04:57] <Tom_itx> pfft
[18:04:57] <zeeshan> er helical
[18:05:01] <zeeshan> theyre at 20 ipm
[18:05:19] <XXCoder> zeeshan: how many of those parts?
[18:05:25] <XXCoder> 1? 5000?
[18:05:31] <zeeshan> 1
[18:05:42] <zeeshan> im just gonna clamp 2 plates together
[18:05:54] <Tom_itx> yeah no need to waste your time for one part
[18:05:57] <XXCoder> yeah not worth fixture, buy just drill holes then clamp using those holes
[18:06:00] <zeeshan> w/ machinig clamps , and clamp the bottom plate in the vise , run the g-code for the drill cycle
[18:06:08] <XXCoder> it can then cut inside then outside profile. done
[18:06:12] <zeeshan> after holes are made, i use nut and bolt to clamp the plates together
[18:06:19] <zeeshan> and remove the clamps from the outside, so i dont have to reindex
[18:06:23] <zeeshan> and run the profile program
[18:06:41] <zeeshan> i was just hoping to do it without ruining a plate on the bottom
[18:06:45] <zeeshan> but i guess it ll be more work
[18:06:55] <XXCoder> cant use surifical wood or something?
[18:06:56] <archivist> spacers!
[18:07:01] <zeeshan> archivist: what spacers!
[18:07:02] <zeeshan> i dont get it
[18:07:13] <zeeshan> spacers to me are bushings with a hole in it
[18:07:24] <archivist> exactly
[18:07:28] <Tom_itx> if you're trammed right and cut to the material thickness you won't touch the plate :D
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[18:07:39] <zeeshan> haha
[18:08:09] <Tom_itx> leave a .006 skin on the final cut and punch the part out
[18:08:12] <Tom_itx> file the edges
[18:08:27] <zeeshan> ^ i like this idea
[18:08:34] <XXCoder> yeah
[18:08:39] <Tom_itx> we've done that on parts quite a few times
[18:08:45] <XXCoder> still use surifical plate though
[18:08:45] <zeeshan> the skin just breaks off
[18:09:08] <zeeshan> i have this chunk of aluminum i use for sacraficial plate
[18:09:10] <XXCoder> surifical plate that has drill damage can last very long time
[18:09:13] <zeeshan> and boy it looks like cheese now
[18:09:13] <zeeshan> haha
[18:09:22] <XXCoder> lol yea it does.
[18:09:43] <Tom_itx> the 2x6 on my drill press looks like termites got to it
[18:09:47] <XXCoder> my old internship work they use massive block of alum for aluminium plate cutting
[18:10:13] <XXCoder> it looks like cheese due to often drill getting below surifical plate into block
[18:10:39] <Tom_itx> we used 1.5" plate usually and cut the size of the cutting box
[18:10:42] <Tom_itx> so fairly large
[18:11:25] <Tom_itx> what generated that path?
[18:12:36] <zeeshan> mcam
[18:12:42] <Tom_itx> zeeshan of course if you leave the .00x skin, you _can_ cut the center deeper and remove it
[18:13:19] <zeeshan> i seriously dont know why someone needs a weird ass part like this
[18:13:33] <zeeshan> its actually a friend
[18:13:33] <zeeshan> lol
[18:13:38] <Tom_itx> you should see some of the aircraft parts we made...
[18:13:40] <XXCoder> zeeshan: thats weird? nah
[18:13:51] <XXCoder> I have weirder and ones weirder than THAT
[18:14:29] <Tom_itx> doesn't look like it would be easy to measure the perimeter dimensions
[18:14:45] <zeeshan> yea
[18:14:57] <zeeshan> i would mill a flat on 2 corners
[18:14:57] <XXCoder> ust select 2 points where it would lay flat
[18:14:58] <zeeshan> tiny ones
[18:15:00] <zeeshan> so you can reindex it
[18:15:20] <Tom_itx> my X0 Y0 would be a hole
[18:15:27] <XXCoder> use surface, then use hmm dunno what name it is, but 2 rod thingy that uses dial indictor to see sizes
[18:15:31] <zeeshan> mine is too
[18:15:34] <Tom_itx> i see that
[18:15:36] <zeeshan> but im thinking of changing it to the corner
[18:15:41] <Tom_itx> pfft
[18:15:50] <zeeshan> cause that hole that its zero'd to isn't a precise hole
[18:15:52] <Tom_itx> dude, you're only making one part
[18:16:02] <XXCoder> whats tol level?
[18:16:02] <zeeshan> haha trust me i know this guy
[18:16:04] <XXCoder> 0.03?
[18:16:07] <XXCoder> 0.000000001?
[18:16:08] <zeeshan> he'll be back cause it doesnt work right
[18:16:11] <zeeshan> and we'll need to slot a hole
[18:16:12] <zeeshan> haha
[18:16:24] <Tom_itx> charge him 2x the price then
[18:16:26] <zeeshan> like 10 thou
[18:16:35] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: ill charge same price
[18:16:39] <zeeshan> but itll be easier for me :)
[18:16:48] <Tom_itx> the hole center is very precise
[18:16:49] <zeeshan> 2x means he'll just want a new part
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[18:17:07] <XXCoder> Tom_itx: yeah assuming hole is nice and round
[18:17:12] <zeeshan> ok lets not waste anymore time talkin about this nonsense part
[18:17:14] <XXCoder> with good em it should be.
[18:17:15] <zeeshan> on easter!
[18:17:27] <Tom_itx> but it's fun to waste your time
[18:17:39] <zeeshan> do you guys eat something special on easter
[18:17:44] <XXCoder> yes
[18:17:46] <XXCoder> candy'
[18:17:50] <zeeshan> not that
[18:17:50] <zeeshan> haha
[18:17:53] <zeeshan> like turkey or somethin
[18:18:06] <XXCoder> not really
[18:18:26] <archivist> I cooked a ting of rice pudding on the steam engine
[18:18:30] <archivist> tin
[18:20:06] <Tom_itx> just make sure your Z clear is high enough to clear any bolts you add
[18:20:13] <Tom_itx> it doesn't look like it is
[18:20:27] <Tom_itx> no tellin what path the cutter will take to the next start point
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[18:25:05] <CaptHindsight> shouldn't it be rabbit stew or chocolate eggs or something
[18:27:38] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: I thinks it's most often ham today
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[18:29:14] <Tom_itx> green eggs n ham
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[18:31:18] <zeeshan> haha who uses a steam engine to cook
[18:31:19] <zeeshan> pics?
[18:33:24] <pcw_home> Isn't there a whole category of exhaust manifold cookery?
[18:38:00] <archivist> zeeshan, other engine driver does bacon eggs sandwich
http://www.collection.archivist.info/showresult.php?prog=1&srcprog=searchv13.php&srcdata=title&Type=PD&Accn_no=7640&subject=24427
[18:38:22] <zeeshan> haha
[18:38:25] <zeeshan> thats awesome!
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[18:39:18] <archivist> and I do rice pud
http://www.collection.archivist.info/showresult.php?prog=1&srcprog=searchv13.php&srcdata=title&Type=PD&Accn_no=7667&subject=24454
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[18:40:29] <Tom_itx> is the wood insulation?
[18:40:38] <archivist> yes
[18:42:11] <zeeshan> lol
[18:42:13] <archivist> I had a busy day so it ended up on the steam chest for well over 2 hours
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[19:05:43] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[19:12:36] <zeeshan> anyone use g73?
[19:12:44] <zeeshan> ive never had mastercam spit out code before for a drill cycle
[19:14:00] <zeeshan> http://pastebin.com/P7cXWRji
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[19:15:53] <zeeshan> lol that looks wrong :/
[19:17:28] <zeeshan> http://pastebin.com/tVuTtSiB
[19:17:55] <zeeshan> first hole @ (3.2884,2.75) , gets drilled down to .4213 deep in z
[19:18:13] <zeeshan> when it commands Y-.375 , will the cutter go back to the retract plane
[19:18:14] <zeeshan> and move over?
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[19:19:00] <renesis> it's right if you are drilling to z0
[19:19:08] <zeeshan> Z.050
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[19:19:22] <zeeshan> should be the rapid plane
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[19:22:56] <renesis> drill down to z0, in .05 peck incriments, at feed 10.8, return to Z.1
[19:23:05] <renesis> N150 G99 G73 Z0. R.1 Q.05 F10.8
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[19:24:14] <renesis> try G99 G73 Z-.4213 R.05 Q.05 F10.8
[19:29:19] <renesis> works fine on my machine
[19:31:33] <renesis> (that you consider a hack even though its the default linuxcnc setup)
[19:32:45] <renesis> (and for reference when you talk shit in the future, i dont consider myself an expert at this. i just consider myself competent)
[19:33:17] <zeeshan> ^ mental issues
[19:34:10] <renesis> haha, because i reminded you of what you said
[19:34:23] * renesis thumbs up
[19:34:30] <renesis> so does the gcode work on your machine or not?
[19:34:31] <zeeshan> you need to get over yourself
[19:34:40] <zeeshan> i dunno, i havent been reading what you said
[19:34:43] <renesis> goes both ways man
[19:34:44] <zeeshan> thanks for the help
[19:34:59] <zeeshan> i was hoping someone else would respond :p
[19:35:11] <renesis> its cool you dont have to say thanks i dont take what you say as sincere anyway
[19:35:23] <zeeshan> zzz
[19:35:33] <zeeshan> go troll someone else today :P
[19:36:13] <renesis> yes because helping you with your gcode problem despite you being an ass is trolling
[19:36:26] <renesis> in a chan about gcode
[19:36:55] <zeeshan> can someone confirm plz
[19:37:09] <zeeshan> i did the g73 cycle manually before, but never in that manner!
[19:37:46] <zeeshan> i'd try it but im lazy to go downstairs and check since i'm working on the post processor upstairs
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[19:38:51] <renesis> g99 means retract to the R word, Z is your drill depth, Q is your peck incriments, F is feedrate
[19:38:58] <zeeshan> i knwo.
[19:40:15] <zeeshan> after it hits -.4213 it'll retract to .05
[19:40:28] <zeeshan> and then try to move over in the xy is what im concerned about
[19:41:15] <zeeshan> i think it likely goes back to the original z position it started with
[19:41:18] <zeeshan> that'd make logical sense
[19:41:19] <renesis> in your code g98 and g99 dont matter because initial z and retract word are the same, neither is z.05
[19:41:40] <zeeshan> well if g99 wasn't there
[19:41:51] <zeeshan> and i did y-.375 on line n160
[19:41:56] <zeeshan> it'd crash the drill bit it'd think
[19:41:58] <renesis> if you g98 it might throw an error if you dont remove the rword
[19:42:00] <zeeshan> it'd = i'd
[19:42:09] <renesis> but r might be modal, maybe just ignores it
[19:43:01] <renesis> and i believe g99 and g98 are modal
[19:43:56] <renesis> in your code, in either case, the retaction is to z.1, and if you dont set g99 or g98, itll just stay set in the mode it was in before
[19:44:26] <renesis> so youre either going to want it in the safety block or at least the first g73
[19:45:41] <renesis> in neither case do you crash if theres no stock above 0
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[19:54:53] <renesis> i was referencing your first paste, but everything said is still relevant
[19:54:58] <renesis> cheers
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[20:09:03] <rob_h> Well i finaly got the new machine in place...now to get everything else back in place
http://derp.co.uk/f8ea3
[20:11:33] <zeeshan> nice!
[20:11:34] <zeeshan> what is it
[20:11:55] <rob_h> Matsuura
[20:12:07] <rob_h> with 5 axis
[20:12:37] <zeeshan> nice!
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[20:28:25] <cnc1> hallo to all I have question how to integrate the Mokro
[20:28:30] <cnc1> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ManualToolChangeMacro
[20:29:58] <JT-Shop> rob_h that's nice!
[20:30:19] <rob_h> thx
[20:30:24] <JT-Shop> cnc1, you just ask the question
[20:30:26] <rob_h> it eats up the flood space tho
[20:30:38] <JT-Shop> lol I'd bet
[20:30:48] <JT-Shop> I'm on my last part for the day!
[20:30:54] <rob_h> only 550mm travel X
[20:31:24] <JT-Shop> that's not very much
[20:31:37] <JT-Shop> does the rotary limit the X
[20:32:02] <rob_h> well table is 700mm long
[20:32:31] <rob_h> no just the size of machine as its a 600VF , 550 does 99% of stuff we do
[20:32:50] <rob_h> bigger than the little leadwell
[20:33:42] <rob_h> got it from Aerospace shop. they sold it as end of line product they making. so a new machine coming in for the new part line
[20:34:48] <JT-Shop> cool
[20:35:00] <rob_h> just gota tool it up now
[20:35:05] <JT-Shop> last part done here... time to turn the lights out and get some R&R
[20:35:13] <JT-Shop> see you soon
[20:35:23] <rob_h> was faily cheap too why we went for it. plus i got a job lined up for 5 axis
[20:35:31] <rob_h> k
[20:36:08] <JT-Shop> you using mastercam to program it
[20:36:10] <JT-Shop> ?
[20:36:28] <rob_h> camworks
[20:36:42] <JT-Shop> ah I remember now
[20:37:21] <rob_h> just handy todo all faces in one setup some times too, which is easy to program just indexing then
[20:39:06] <zeeshan> anyone know how to setup so mastercam outputs comments in the g-code
[20:39:08] <zeeshan> for each operation
[20:39:18] <zeeshan> i had this working on the lathe post, but i forgot what i did :(
[20:39:43] <zeeshan> its weird cause i do have "output operation comments to NC"
[20:39:44] <zeeshan> selected
[20:40:18] <rob_h> maye u need add to post processor?
[20:40:23] <zeeshan> its there
[20:40:35] <rob_h> never used it sorry
[20:40:38] <zeeshan> if gcode$ = 1008, scomm_fx_arg = scomm$, pcomment_out #Operation comment if gcode$ = 1051, scomm_fx_arg = scomm$, pcomment_out #Machine name
[20:40:44] <zeeshan> but for some reason the code isn't getting set
[20:42:29] <cnc1> hallo to all I have question how to integrate the Mokro
[20:42:30] <cnc1> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ManualToolChangeMacro
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[20:49:13] <rob_h> try the mailing list maybe someone there uses it
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[20:57:38] <Tom_itx> zeeshan got a copy of the post?
[20:57:44] <Tom_itx> i'm sure it's not that difficult
[20:57:50] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: its not the post
[20:57:55] <zeeshan> its somewhere in the software thats being a lamer
[20:58:00] <zeeshan> mastercam outputs a nci file
[20:58:11] <zeeshan> which is supposed to have the code "1008" before an operation comment
[20:58:23] <zeeshan> but it's not outputting that to the nci file even, so there is something up right at the software part
[20:58:29] <zeeshan> before it even gets to the post
[20:58:49] <Tom_itx> do you need to add something to the drawing file for that to happen?
[20:58:58] <Tom_itx> i can add user commands to mine
[20:59:04] <Tom_itx> if i need something special
[20:59:12] <zeeshan> i shouldnt have to though
[20:59:21] <zeeshan> each thing in the historyh tree has an apporpiate name
[20:59:25] <zeeshan> "facing" "counter 2d" etc
[20:59:59] <Tom_itx> i didn't like mastercam's post methods when i was looking.. that's why i got smartcam way back when
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[21:09:44] <Tom_L> http://cadcamstuff.com/1430/people-will-love-your-mastercam-post-comments/
[21:09:50] <Tom_L> not sure if that's helpful or not
[21:11:55] <zeeshan> that does help
[21:12:06] <zeeshan> but i wish i could figure out what variable the history tree names are stored in
[21:12:09] <zeeshan> so i could transfer them over
[21:12:13] <Tom_L> he's got a couple other articles there
[21:22:46] <Tom_L> what ver mastercam are you using?
[21:22:59] <XXCoder> 0.01
[21:27:33] <Tom_itx> well i have a DOS version of smartcam :)
[21:27:54] <XXCoder> use cctp version on me
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[21:30:36] <Tom_L> zeeshan must have his head stuck in his pc
[21:33:29] <Tom_L> zeeshan, here's a book for you:
https://books.google.com/books?id=LZ6UBgAAQBAJ&pg=SA11-PA12&lpg=SA11-PA12&dq=mastercam+history+tree+names&source=bl&ots=BgSZJ05bAk&sig=BNWsUYRUlxv22ZcFjI5580zl0Oc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t6khVaOXMMSyoQTvvIGoAw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=mastercam%20history%20tree%20names&f=false
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[22:31:42] <MacGalempsy> hello everyone
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[22:47:43] <malcom2073> Hmm, so I'm looking to make an indexer with an Arduino (So I can key position on a keypad and hit enter to have it go, rather than having a linuxcnc PC just for that). It's using a 200:1 harmonic drive, so I want the stepper to be able to spin at 800-1000rpm to come to position fairly quickly. I hacked together some arduino code to run the stepper, and Ican get the speed
[22:48:04] <malcom2073> But I'd rather not have to write my own stepper library with full acceleration control, since I just hacked mine together in a while(true) loop to make it work as proof of concept
[22:48:29] <Tom_itx> you could pull some from the marlin reprap code i bet
[22:48:35] <malcom2073> problem I'm running into: the arduino stepper libraries (built in one, and AccelStepper) don't work very well. The built in one doesn't do acceleration, and AccelStepper is limited to about 200rpm
[22:48:48] <malcom2073> Tom_itx: Yeah I wanted to avoid having to hack the code out of there to make it work with the keypad :/ heh
[22:48:55] <malcom2073> was hoping there was a decent standalone single-stepper library
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[22:49:57] <Tom_L> http://arduino.cc/en/reference/stepper
[22:49:59] <Tom_L> http://www.airspayce.com/mikem/arduino/AccelStepper/
[22:50:21] <malcom2073> Yep those are the twp I found that don't work very well :)
[22:50:28] <Tom_itx> heh
[22:50:34] <malcom2073> the built in one doesn't do acceleration, and AccelStepper is limited to about 200rpm at full stepping before it tops out
[22:50:56] <malcom2073> Probably too much arduino cruft slowing it down I suppose, unsure
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[22:52:50] <Tom_itx> with position you're gonna be counting steps or add an encoder to the mix
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[22:53:09] <malcom2073> Yeah
[22:53:34] <Tom_itx> encoder might be more reliable
[22:53:41] <malcom2073> ?
[22:53:50] <Tom_itx> you could lose steps
[22:53:53] <malcom2073> It's always turning under no load, since it's an indexer
[22:54:09] <Tom_itx> weight of tools and mass of index wheel
[22:54:20] <Tom_itx> i suppose at 200:1 you're right
[22:54:22] <malcom2073> I have CNC machines that run on smaller steppers, I'm not worried about losing steps heh
[22:55:05] <malcom2073> And slow acceleration is perfeclt acceptable, as long as the max speed is decent, so it doesn't have to wait 10-20 seconds to seek to a point on the other side
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[22:56:03] <malcom2073> But yeah, it's looking like I'm going to have to write my own stepper library :/ heh
[22:57:25] <Tom_itx> i bet you could pull the code from marlin about as quick or quicker
[22:59:03] <andypugh> skunkworks: These look like yours?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TWO-TOOL-HOLDERS-/171744573478?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27fcc63826
[22:59:10] <malcom2073> Marlin doesn't do proper acceleration anyway, if I'm gonna hack something, I'll do it right heh
[22:59:45] <Tom_itx> post it somewhere if you do :)
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[23:02:31] <malcom2073> heh
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[23:10:18] <skunksleep> andypugh: maybe. They made 2 versions. Ours is about 2.25 shank and a newer version that was much smaller
[23:10:49] <andypugh> The ad says 57.2mm
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[23:11:30] <andypugh> Which would be 2.2519685"
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[23:12:05] <andypugh> it was the apparent mechanical barcoding that made me wonder.
[23:12:09] <skunksleep> Ah
[23:12:29] <andypugh> I can't believe that they sold more than 3 of those things :-)
[23:12:33] <skunksleep> That is our size.
[23:12:47] <skunksleep> It isn't as popular
[23:12:48] <andypugh> Do you need any more toolholders?
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[23:14:36] <skunksleep> We have quite a few.. But more is better :)
[23:16:30] <skunksleep> I should have dad take a picture of the "tool crib"
[23:16:41] <andypugh> i can bid for them if postage to the US directly is prohibitive (or not offered)
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[23:18:15] <skunksleep> Let me send the link to dad
[23:18:26] <skunksleep> Thanks!
[23:18:39] <andypugh> No problem.
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[23:39:24] <XXCoder> heh 8 years later I have whole lot of apperication for this comic lol
http://www.the-whiteboard.com/autowb084.html
[23:39:42] <XXCoder> back then I saw it as some generic machine
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[23:58:13] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKvyZzNsToE
[23:58:18] <zeeshan> whoops!
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[23:59:00] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/yQOlDtQ.jpg
[23:59:41] <_methods> holy clamping fail batman
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[23:59:45] <zeeshan> haha
[23:59:51] <zeeshan> i had one clamp on the conrner
[23:59:54] <jdh> as expected?
[23:59:55] <zeeshan> thinking its all down force
