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[00:38:33] <zeeshan> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/using-polio-to-kill-cancer-60-minutes/
[00:38:34] <zeeshan> hope this works out
[00:41:41] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: Vice did a special on it a few weeks ago
[00:41:54] <_methods> http://www.forbes.com/sites/arleneweintraub/2015/03/30/heres-what-60-minutes-didnt-tell-you-about-the-miracle-glioblastoma-treatment/
[00:42:08] <CaptHindsight> they are using different types of reprogrammed virus to cure cancers
[00:42:40] <zeeshan> _methods
[00:42:49] <CaptHindsight> one group was having trouble getting funding
[00:42:49] <zeeshan> some people will die. it depends on how far the progression is
[00:44:17] <_methods> Chabner added, "I think it was a disservice to the cancer community (physicians and patients) to present this in such a superficial and premature way."
[00:44:26] <_methods> http://www.medpagetoday.com/HematologyOncology/BrainCancer/50728
[00:44:29] <CaptHindsight> very few are actually working on it since it's a cure vs treatment
[00:44:44] <_methods> this is another example of 60 minutes not getting the full story
[00:44:56] <_methods> they just pulled this shit with lumber liquidators
[00:45:05] <CaptHindsight> but you just need to make the immune system to be aware of the cancer cells
[00:45:33] <zeeshan> i really thought nanobots would be a cool application
[00:45:46] <_methods> 60 minutes helped tilson greatly with short selling lumber liquidators
[00:45:57] <_methods> they lined the hell out of some pockets with that story
[00:45:58] <zeeshan> if you can make a small bot that binds to the cancer cell based on a specific marker
[00:45:59] <CaptHindsight> think of these as bio-nanobots
[00:46:06] <Jymmm> zeeshan: They are, just ask the CD, NSA, CIA, FBI, IRS, NBC, ....
[00:46:10] <zeeshan> and transports em down to the shitter :)
[00:46:12] <Jymmm> CDC*
[00:48:13] <zeeshan> a one time treatment is fine
[00:48:19] <zeeshan> just charge a lot for it to make your money
[00:49:19] <CaptHindsight> we need to find a virus to infect the greed neurons
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[00:49:57] <jdh> or the politicians
[00:50:00] <CaptHindsight> find some way to release endorphin's based on helping vs screwing people over
[00:51:02] <bobo_> zeeshan : what is new and happening with the Mikron ?
[00:51:10] <zeeshan> mikron is puring
[00:51:14] <zeeshan> im working on my car
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[00:51:59] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: what was the problem with the power drivers? I know you put them all on the same power leg but did you even find out why they died when you didn't?
[00:52:24] <zeeshan> ill go with pcw's reason
[00:52:32] <CaptHindsight> which was?
[00:52:36] <zeeshan> mixed with mine
[00:52:47] <zeeshan> transient voltage spike fried the input side
[00:52:54] <zeeshan> as a result of shitty designed drives
[00:53:01] <CaptHindsight> what make?
[00:53:06] <zeeshan> amc
[00:53:07] <bobo_> zeeshan : Can you take a small break -----
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/deckel-maho-aciera-abene-mills/iron-tour-2015-lots-pics-301415/
[00:53:18] <CaptHindsight> yeah, they were at the automation show last week
[00:53:25] <CaptHindsight> I mentioned your problem
[00:53:26] <zeeshan> shoulda asked them why their shit blows up
[00:53:53] <zeeshan> and why they sand off all the chip names
[00:53:57] <zeeshan> :-)
[00:54:14] <CaptHindsight> got a nervous giggle and then awkward silence
[00:54:27] <zeeshan> lol CaptHindsight you're funny
[00:54:41] <zeeshan> http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k459/deckelite/Iron%20Tour%202015/IMG_7392.jpg
[00:54:44] <zeeshan> look a lathe on top of another lathe!
[00:55:23] <zeeshan> wow that fp4m is a big boy
[00:56:18] <zeeshan> bobo_: i bet the guys/girls who built my mikron never woulda thought their hard work would end up in a random garage in canada :)
[00:58:12] <bobo_> zeeshan : bet they would be glad you saved it from the scrappers
[00:58:29] <zeeshan> bobo_: honestly im not being biased cause i own the machine
[00:58:37] <zeeshan> but its 129012809123089312089328x better than the bridgeport boss series
[00:58:41] <zeeshan> and the other machine i looked at
[00:58:51] <zeeshan> they arent anywhere as well built
[01:01:04] <zeeshan> my biggest complaint is the travel on the machine
[01:01:04] <zeeshan> 400mm max in all directions
[01:01:13] <zeeshan> which it was at least 700mm
[01:01:36] <zeeshan> i wish that guy with the maho 800c responded first!
[01:01:52] <bobo_> bridgeport was built for a different group/use/thinking
[01:01:53] <CaptHindsight> yeah, almost as nice as a Matsuura, hass and similar :)
[01:02:20] <zeeshan> i can see why knee mills arent good for cnc work
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[01:02:57] <zeeshan> bobo_: f ind me a cheap mikron cnc lathe!
[01:03:23] <zeeshan> (i dont think they made one)
[01:03:28] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vmc-CNC-Laser-deposition-Router-3D-Printer-Welding-Plasma-Automation-Mach-EMC2-/360876720925
[01:03:36] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: thats a nice machine
[01:03:44] * zeeshan loves proper column machines
[01:04:48] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazak-V550A-Vertical-Machining-Center-with-Pallet-Changer-CNC-VMC-/131472257301
[01:05:29] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEBLOND-MAKINO-FNC-74-A30-4-AXIS-CNC-VERTICAL-MACHINING-CENTER-/331515924380
[01:06:10] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mori-Seiki-MV55-CNC-Vertical-Machining-Center-Yasnac-MX2-Control-24-ATC-22-x-55-/181703525330
[01:06:58] <zeeshan> out of the ads you posted
[01:07:01] <zeeshan> the leblond one is the best
[01:07:06] <bobo_> zeeshan: speaking of hate-discontent, ask them about converting a Leinen DLZ140 to CNC via Mach3
[01:07:29] <zeeshan> bobo ill never convert a manual machine to cnc
[01:07:33] <zeeshan> again
[01:07:40] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matsuura-760-V2-Vertical-Machining-Center-945280-/251785669386
[01:07:49] <zeeshan> its much cheaper to convert and better to convert with ball screws etc
[01:08:04] <zeeshan> and you're doing it wrong if you're running mach 3 :)
[01:08:06] <bobo_> not the point
[01:09:34] <zeeshan> w/ a lathe i want these: automatic tool changer, horizontal bed, live tooling
[01:09:45] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mori-Seiki-MV55-CNC-any-part-u-want-/161655777687 Item location: Hastings, Michigan
[01:09:56] <CaptHindsight> $3k
[01:10:30] <_methods> http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAKINO-MCP-100-4-AXIS-CNC-HORIZONTAL-MACHINING-CENTER-w-22-ROTARY-TABLE-/381200280601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c14eac19
[01:10:42] <_methods> $8500
[01:11:03] <zeeshan> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDY3NQ==/z/7IQAAOSwqu9VDJok/$_57.JPG
[01:11:11] <zeeshan> i hope that wiring job isnt factory!
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[01:13:01] <_methods> soo many machines and so little room
[01:13:57] <zeeshan> i had to sell my sand blaster
[01:13:59] <zeeshan> to make some room :/
[01:14:04] <zeeshan> i never used that thing anyway
[01:14:15] <zeeshan> i bought it thinking i could blast stuff before welding -- that didnt work too well
[01:14:28] <zeeshan> it contaminates the weld with sand particles , even after i clean them with acetone
[01:14:35] <zeeshan> i guess cause the particles get embedded in the metal
[01:18:50] <_methods> alright well i guess i'm going to go to sleep and dream about all the machines i don't have room for in my garage
[01:26:44] <_methods> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-8npt-Cool-Tool-HP-jet-high-pressure-coolant-nozzle-CNC-mill-lathe-grinder-/321054461434
[01:26:52] <_methods> who is dumb enough to pay that much for that
[01:29:19] <zeeshan> its got a special nozzle man!
[01:29:33] <zeeshan> _methods: i learned about a variable geometry face mill
[01:30:00] <zeeshan> that is designed so that it varies the cutting edge contact with the work piece so that you don't have one natural frequency
[01:30:06] <zeeshan> it prolly costs like $40 in metal
[01:30:11] <zeeshan> but they sell it for like 800$!
[01:30:14] <zeeshan> patented technology
[01:36:10] <_methods> thats an 1/8 npt fitting with a swaged piece of copper tubing lol
[01:37:46] <_methods> i need to try selling stupid stuff like that on ebay
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[01:41:20] <furrywolf> it's not even really swaged. that looks more like they just cut it with a tubing cutter.
[01:41:34] <furrywolf> the fitting is about $4, the tubing about $0.25... retail, at a hardware store.
[01:41:49] <bobo_> zeeshin so if you get another CNC lathe -- surface grinder --- radial arm drill press -----Deckel S11 grinder---- etc +, where is that black car and the cat going ?
[01:42:17] <furrywolf> the only thing non-standard is it might have a spherical instead of conical washer
[01:44:56] <zeeshan> bobo haha
[01:45:12] <zeeshan> http://imgur.com/a/sYiDZ
[01:45:17] <zeeshan> i showed this to one of my friends
[01:45:21] <zeeshan> and now i got an aluminum welding job
[01:45:21] <zeeshan> !
[01:45:28] <furrywolf> I wish I had room for stuff.
[01:45:35] <furrywolf> and money to buy stuff.
[01:45:46] <zeeshan> tools are an investment
[01:45:48] <zeeshan> they make you money
[01:46:09] <renesis> yes when you eventually sell the shop
[01:46:14] <zeeshan> ??
[01:46:16] <furrywolf> they require money, and they only make money if you're both good at them and find something to do with them
[01:46:21] <zeeshan> yea they'll make money then
[01:46:24] <zeeshan> but my welder paid for itself
[01:46:27] <zeeshan> lathe did too
[01:46:30] <zeeshan> mill is on its way
[01:46:55] <zeeshan> the most useless piece of shit i bought was that sand blaster
[01:47:00] <zeeshan> :/
[01:49:00] <zeeshan> furrywolf: dont you work on cars?
[01:49:14] <zeeshan> thats a great way to make extra money in the afternoons/weekends
[01:49:14] <furrywolf> sometimes
[01:50:12] <zeeshan> i dont really do a lot of car stuff anymore in terms of service
[01:50:15] <furrywolf> just because I can do something doesn't mean I ever want to. I hate fixing things. heh.
[01:50:25] <zeeshan> but i remember a few years back i was making like 160$ to install springs
[01:50:29] <furrywolf> I like interesting things, not turning wrenches.
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[01:50:53] <zeeshan> turning wrenches is bread and butter for side income
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[01:51:09] <furrywolf> it also doesn't pay well. I have a relative who's tried to make money doing that...
[01:51:17] <zeeshan> as a living -- hell no
[01:51:24] <zeeshan> as a supplemental income -- hell yes!
[01:51:43] <zeeshan> the other reason i like race car/street tuner cars is
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[01:51:50] <zeeshan> most of the stuff you work on is not a rusty pos
[01:51:55] <zeeshan> new parts! :D
[01:52:02] <furrywolf> I hate your type of race cars. heh.
[01:52:49] <zeeshan> a fast heap of ____ is still a ____
[01:52:55] <zeeshan> :)
[01:53:21] <zeeshan> unless it's done in style
[01:53:22] <furrywolf> the whole making-things-shiny-just-to-make-them-shiny thing pisses me off.
[01:53:23] <zeeshan> like those rat rods
[01:53:40] <zeeshan> furrywolf: making things shiny has a purpose
[01:53:53] <zeeshan> ie aluminum anodized fittings stop corrsoion
[01:53:58] <zeeshan> a smooth paint job reduces drag
[01:54:06] <zeeshan> look at a f1 car
[01:54:19] <zeeshan> those guys are all about performance
[01:54:27] <zeeshan> yet they still wax the shit out of their car
[01:54:57] <zeeshan> so i'm not sure what shiny stuff you're talking about :P
[01:55:17] <furrywolf> isn't f1 one of the races where you're not allowed to do anything innovative and technology is stuck in the '60s?
[01:55:24] <zeeshan> LOL
[01:55:25] <zeeshan> ok
[01:55:39] <bobo_> zeeshan did you note the discussion about the guy " Rüdiger "rebuilding Leinen and Schaublin Lathes
[01:55:40] <zeeshan> without f1 there would be no EFI
[01:55:47] <zeeshan> without f1 there would be no direct injection
[01:55:59] <zeeshan> there would be no such thing as camless engines
[01:56:25] <furrywolf> or maybe that's a difference race I'm thinking of. I know a lot of them specify every tiny detail so you end up with identical cars...
[01:56:29] <malcom2073> furrywolf: You're thinking of nascar
[01:57:14] <furrywolf> that could well be. :)
[01:57:19] * furrywolf doesn't pay much attention to races
[01:57:26] <zeeshan> http://www.quora.com/Which-innovations-from-from-Formula-1-have-found-their-way-to-road-cars
[01:58:36] <zeeshan> basically whatever f1 is doing
[01:58:44] <zeeshan> comes into road cars after 5-10 year lag
[01:59:17] <furrywolf> "However, in the recent past, the FIA has been quite strict with regards to the allowing of developments. This has been a major factor for the exit of such teams as Toyota, Honda, BMW etc from the sport."
[02:00:25] <zeeshan> i think traction control
[02:00:27] <zeeshan> came from it
[02:00:28] <furrywolf> grrrrr, and another web page you can't fucking scroll properly! bars across both the top and bottom, so you miss a fucking inch of text every time you scroll.
[02:01:31] <furrywolf> I thought traction control was banned? or maybe that's nascar again.
[02:01:50] <bobo_> zeeshan on the F1 stuff ,don't forget good employment for vertically challenged people who react fast enought to snap a fly out of the air and continue the conversation
[02:02:05] <zeeshan> lol
[02:02:14] <zeeshan> furrywolf: i think it is banned now
[02:02:18] <zeeshan> cars gettin too fast
[02:06:39] <bobo_> so when are computers going to be too fast ?
[02:07:42] <zeeshan> hey furry
[02:07:55] <zeeshan> have you ever see the vacuum system of a 13b-rew rotary?
[02:08:10] <furrywolf> bobo_: never, if modern web design keeps going like it is.
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[02:08:28] <furrywolf> the 13 is the 3-rotor one, right? no. only the 12whatever.
[02:08:34] <zeeshan> 2 rotor
[02:08:51] <zeeshan> goin through some old pics
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[02:08:53] <zeeshan> and found one lol
[02:09:14] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/m0l4V5U.jpg?1
[02:09:24] <zeeshan> look at that nightmare
[02:09:35] <furrywolf> most of the rotaries I've seen haven't been in running condition, and it's never been due to anything external to the engine.
[02:09:36] <zeeshan> thats not with all the hoses connected either
[02:09:39] <zeeshan> there are like 8 solenoids
[02:09:54] <furrywolf> yay '80s smog.
[02:10:00] <zeeshan> no!
[02:10:04] <zeeshan> this is just for the sequential turbo system
[02:10:05] <zeeshan> ahha
[02:10:17] <zeeshan> only one of them is fuel evap
[02:10:36] <furrywolf> my favorite is a relative's rx7 he got as a project, that as soon as you started it, promptly shot the dipstick ten feet in the air.
[02:10:43] <zeeshan> haha
[02:11:27] <furrywolf> it ran, it just sent more exhaust into the block than out the tailpipe.
[02:11:39] <furrywolf> he sold it as a project. decided it was too much work.
[02:12:15] <zeeshan> f the rotary
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[02:14:00] <zeeshan> ever wonder why a rotary car smells like coolant?
[02:14:00] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/T6ShXli.jpg
[02:14:00] <zeeshan> look at the inner viton ring
[02:14:05] <zeeshan> thats right next to the combustion process
[02:14:18] <zeeshan> it's invevitable that it'll harden and crack and fail
[02:14:26] <zeeshan> from the thermal rape it sees
[02:16:03] <furrywolf> my favorite is "why did my ford truck decide to pump the entire contents of the oil pan into the radiator?".
[02:16:13] <zeeshan> :D
[02:16:16] <zeeshan> through hg?
[02:16:33] <furrywolf> no, injector cups.
[02:17:03] <furrywolf> there's a little copper cup that is simultaneously exposed to combustion, high pressure oil, coolant, and fuel.
[02:17:28] <furrywolf> since the oil is at a higher pressure than the coolant...
[02:17:59] <furrywolf> then when you turn it off, the coolant is at a higher pressure than the fuel, so it proceeds to fill the fuel filter with your remaining antifreeze, to make room for more oil.
[02:17:59] <zeeshan> nice
[02:18:20] <bobo_> i thought that when viton decomposed there was a very nasty acid released
[02:18:47] <zeeshan> bobo_: prolly
[02:18:51] <zeeshan> rotary is a great design in concept
[02:19:01] <zeeshan> in practice, its not good at all.
[02:19:09] <furrywolf> radiator full of oil, fuel full of antifreeze = time to do the injector cups
[02:19:10] <zeeshan> because of its sealing issues
[02:19:33] <zeeshan> furrywolf: oil in radiator would be terrible to clean out
[02:19:34] <zeeshan> lol
[02:19:44] <zeeshan> thats like the worst thing for a cooling system!
[02:20:30] <furrywolf> did I mention they hold about two gallons of oil? :P
[02:20:39] <zeeshan> sweet
[02:20:47] <zeeshan> is this the v8?
[02:21:45] <furrywolf> powerstroke v8, yes
[02:23:09] <furrywolf> it's one of the more "wtf?!" failures when you first see it.
[02:23:37] <furrywolf> you look in the radiator tank (it's clear plastic) and it's full of pitch black oil, you look in the fuel filter and it's full of clear green antifreeze...
[02:25:15] <bobo_> furrywolf : arn't you talking about diesel engine ?
[02:26:20] <furrywolf> yes
[02:28:58] <Tecan> great googley moogley
[02:29:06] <bobo_> Ah yes the New Detroit auto makers concept of a diesel engine
[02:38:54] <bobo_> PCW : with the Asrock H97M Pro4 board , what would you suggest for a CPU to use? Intended use is for servo driven CNC mill .
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[02:52:06] <furrywolf> I usually figure cpu choice is relatively irrelevant.
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[02:58:12] <cradek> move platform downward, may crash at bottom, prime to get pressure, generate blob on edge, shear off blob, jerk away from blob, slowly smear snot to clear nozzle
[02:58:35] <cradek> (comments from ed nisley's gcode running an extruder)
[03:00:46] <zeeshan> lol
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[03:12:32] <pcw_home> bobo_: I'm using a G3258 but any of the G3XXX CPUs should be fine
[03:13:48] <pcw_home> Likely I3,I5, or I7 would work as well or better but those cost too much
[03:18:59] <pcw_home> I guess the lowest end current gen LGA1150 CPU is the G1820 (~$46)
[03:21:38] <bobo_> Thank You
[03:22:45] <pcw_home> bobo_: But I should make clear that thats probably way more horsepower than you need (a J1800 or J1900 $70 MB is fine for a normal servo system)
[03:23:17] <bobo_> Micro Center is having a sale . Bd about $48. if buying CPU also
[03:23:52] <pcw_home> They are quite fast and nice ( especially with a SSD )
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[03:24:48] <bobo_> Thought's on type and amount of memory ?
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[03:27:51] <pcw_home> for linuxcnc 2G is fine (I think I have 4 for no particular reason)
[03:29:40] <pcw_home> well lets see if my tupperware will boot Ubuntu since wheezy was a bust...
[03:29:59] <bobo_> Thank you again ----
[03:32:14] <pcw_home> Welcome, the h97 is a nice MB, PCI and PCIE, Intel 1G MAC even a LPT port
[03:38:05] <bobo_> pcw I saw your comment on the h97 , which seemed that it covered all the want's for now and near future . So will pick one up this week at micro-center.
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[04:16:19] <georgenz> Hey guys... just wondering how to set different tool heights. Looking online, it says to click tool table in the coordinate system under the touchoff button. But there is no tool table under the menu
[04:16:44] <georgenz> Just g54 to g59.3
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[05:24:55] <Cromaglious> I'm about ready to format this ubuntu 10.04 and get the new debian linuxcnc distro
[05:25:31] <Cromaglious> tomany things not working anymore
[05:26:31] <Cromaglious> apt-get blah -o Apt::Cache-Limit=80000000 is the only way I can get things now
[05:26:58] <Cromaglious> haven't figured out where to up cache-limit in which config file
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[05:34:46] <Cromaglious> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01ubuntu added line Cache-Limit 80000000; between the {}s
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[05:35:09] <Cromaglious> since I had to update libc6 nothing works
[05:35:27] <Cromaglious> bbl installing debian
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[06:03:32] <bobo_> Hope to bbl
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[06:09:11] <Deejay> moin
[06:13:01] <Cromaglious> morning
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[06:13:39] <Cromaglious> put the 400w dc spindle on the mach3 machine.. pwm speed control is basically spindle on full speed, or off
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[07:10:12] <Cromaglious> anyone see my blank DVD's or a flash drive?
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[07:11:26] <archivist_herron> under the stack over there-------------------------->
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[07:24:49] <Cromaglious> close, little more to the left, on top of the sewing machine
[07:25:07] <Cromaglious> --------/\
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[07:31:41] <Cromaglious> rebooting to wheezy laterz
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[07:56:48] <Tecan> http://i.imgur.com/2IP1faw.jpg << lol found this in my stash of stuff
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[07:59:34] <archivist_herron> that needs a viking burial
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[08:03:34] <Tecan> it actually moves fairly fast
[08:03:40] <Tecan> good for pick and place
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[08:05:57] <Tecan> http://www.instructables.com/id/Low-Cost-Hobby-Servo-XY-Table/
[08:06:15] <Tecan> not sure if that has ramping or not
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[09:26:15] <XXCoder1> boo
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[15:40:25] <CaptHindsight> Happy March 32nd!
[15:41:18] <renesis> i think you can do better than that
[15:41:22] <renesis> most of us are not fooled
[15:44:07] <CaptHindsight> I had a calendar that did that
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[15:49:48] <renesis> capthindsight: heh cool
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[16:00:34] * JT-Shop notes that the only thing worse than cleaning out a coolant tank is tanning hides
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[16:05:21] <cradek> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCy0NEbJf4s
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[16:16:55] <jthornton> heh it made konqueror crash
[16:18:14] <jthornton> he should hold the nozzle still and tilt the can
[16:19:21] <jthornton> all that cheese sacrificed for science lol
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[16:22:01] <jthornton> wow adding a file picker to mark convert sure made that easier
[16:23:56] <renesis> cradek: i was so excited when i saw that before
[16:24:09] <renesis> by the end i was kind of depressed
[16:24:25] <renesis> i was expecting like, a new era of snacking
[16:24:57] <malcom2073> Pretty soon, you'll be able to hit a button, and get a ritz cracker with a "printed" shape or pattern (or smiley) on it
[16:25:13] <renesis> yeah that shouldnt be too hard
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[16:25:30] <malcom2073> Nah, though I feel the machines pain. I hate the nozzles in those things
[16:25:37] <renesis> inject ritz dough, bake layer with hot air
[16:26:24] <renesis> i guess to do the cheese machine right, you have to bend the can, not the nozzle
[16:26:46] <renesis> and eventually, a variable bend actuator would be nice to regulate the flow
[16:26:58] <malcom2073> with a wiping mechanism to make for clean cutoffs
[16:27:16] <renesis> yeah like a hot razor blade
[16:27:44] <malcom2073> Two hot razer blades, slicing like scissors
[16:28:01] <renesis> that would be cleaner
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[17:01:30] <CaptHindsight> would you print or machine the holes for swiss?
[17:02:42] <archivist> swiss cheese?
[17:05:10] <_methods> suisse
[17:07:36] <renesis> capthindsight: i dont see why that would need a second operation, the overhang per layer is so minimal for the bubbles i dont think you would need support cheese
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[17:16:06] <CaptHindsight> http://www.renardscheese.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/P/e/PepperJack_16.png
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[18:39:43] <archivist> an online book on gears
http://issuu.com/deoc4114/docs/modern_methods_of_gear_manufacture_4th_edition
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[19:26:33] <dirty_d> any of you made an EDM machine?
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[19:37:12] <Jymmm> dirty_d: I did once, super easy.
[19:37:30] <dirty_d> wire EDM?
[19:37:43] <dirty_d> is my math right on this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EDM-WIRE-11-POUND-SPOOL-01-DIA-ZCUT-A-COATED-800NT-/381192225832?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58c0d3c428
[19:37:54] <dirty_d> its a 11lb spool of 0.01" wire
[19:37:58] <Jymmm> dirty_d: Take any extension, plug into 120vac outlet, cut with dykes, perfect edm hole =)
[19:38:02] <dirty_d> i got 11km for the length of the wire
[19:38:21] <dirty_d> based on 8.73g/cm density of brass
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[19:39:07] <_methods> yeah wait till you get all 11km all tangled up in a ball
[19:39:17] <_methods> the joys of edm lol
[19:39:23] <dirty_d> you just throw away whats used
[19:39:36] <dirty_d> sounds like 11km would last a pretty damn long time
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[20:03:26] <Loetmichel> waht are dykes?
[20:03:39] <Loetmichel> @ Jymmm
[20:05:01] <Rab> Loetmichel,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diagonal_pliers
[20:05:12] <Loetmichel> ah
[20:05:21] <Jymmm> or linemans pliers
[20:05:24] <XXCoder1> cut with lesbians
[20:05:29] <Loetmichel> "saitenschneider" in german
[20:05:44] <Loetmichel> "(guitar)wire cutter"
[20:05:46] <Rab> http://diy3dprinting.blogspot.com/2015/02/smartcore-low-cost-wooden-box-3d-printer.html
[20:06:00] <Rab> You can see the particle board splitting in their product photo. :(
[20:06:54] <Loetmichel> Rab: normal if you dont predrill and use spax screws in particle board
[20:07:01] <Loetmichel> soeone got lazy
[20:07:10] <XXCoder1> ah I see it now
[20:07:11] <Rab> Or just didn't know.
[20:07:11] <XXCoder1> yeah
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[20:11:16] <_methods> why is that not on kickstarter!!!!
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[20:12:10] <whatsup> Hi all.
[20:12:42] <XXCoder1> whatsup:
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[20:13:26] <whatsup> I have a question about linuxcnc. This is the place to make it right?
[20:13:42] <_methods> yes
[20:13:42] <XXCoder1> yeah
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[20:16:26] <whatsup> Where do I got to control what happens during a tool change?
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[20:16:45] <whatsup> for example, the length of time that water/air is sprayed?
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[20:17:51] <whatsup> Also, besides the docs/man pages, is there more info somewhere? Or a course?
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[20:19:36] <_methods> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ToolChangerImplementation
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[20:21:08] <_methods> i think that breaks down the tool change implementation and the files used
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[20:21:44] <whatsup> Thanks _methods!!!
[20:22:33] <_methods> i think this could be helpful too but not sure
[20:22:35] <_methods> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/remap/structure.html
[20:23:11] <_methods> specifically the section on tool change
[20:23:26] <whatsup> ok, i will check it out. i hadn't seen that either
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[20:28:25] <whatsup> thanks _methods! i am going out cycling, and I will be back later
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[20:58:55] <eventor> i checked out linuxcnc2.6.7. from git.linuxcnc.org, after compiling it says 2.8.0-pre1 , what have i done wrong?
[20:59:20] <cradek> when you say you checked out, what do you mean exactly?
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[21:02:10] <eventor> git clone git://git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git linuxcnc2.6.7
[21:06:57] <cradek> if you want 2.6.7 you must checkout that version, with something like git checkout v2.6.7
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[21:12:54] <eventor> thanks, read git manuals now...
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[21:20:30] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:02:59] <JT-Shop> eventor, I have a git cheat sheet if you need it
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[22:05:22] <eventor> oh, would be good, svn is a bit different
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[22:06:18] <JT-Shop> ok, give me a few to wander down to the beer cave and post it
[22:12:40] <jthornton> eventor, start here
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Git
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[22:14:10] <eventor> JT, thanks
[22:14:46] <jthornton> a few more tid bits here
http://pastebin.com/uPdKgnpJ
[22:15:27] <jthornton> lines like this one make >> /home/john/Desktop/make.txt 2>&1 change john for your computer name
[22:15:42] * jthornton goes back to the shop
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[22:24:16] <Cromaglious__> re all
[22:25:07] <Cromaglious__> Debian Wheezy install goes apace
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