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[00:21:41] <Captain_Crow> hi
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[00:46:44] <furrywolf> Wiring Brown - Live; Blue - Neutral; Yellow - N/C
[00:46:59] <furrywolf> ... you know, I usually don't label the yellow/green wire "N/C".
[00:47:14] <ssi> hah
[00:50:31] <furrywolf> http://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-LED-Flood-light-Spotlight-IP65-Outdoor-Cool-White-Warm-White-100-Watt-US-/231504129918 I'm thinking of using one of those as a replacement for 500W halogen worklights... same light (supposedly), 1/5th the power.
[00:51:58] <furrywolf> I've got a couple worklights with bad sockets, remove the lamp housing from them and mount the led unit to the bent tube base/handle.
[00:52:43] <furrywolf> bought a Snap-On branded LED working, and not too happy with it. color sucks, and it's not bright enough.
[00:52:48] <furrywolf> s/working/worklight
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[00:54:50] <furrywolf> bbl, work
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[00:57:53] <_methods> there's a lot to this sewing stuff
[00:58:28] <_methods> i've never really looked at sewing machines before but they're pretty damn cool
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[01:08:40] <Jymmm> Pretty cool...
http://www.boredpanda.com/penguin-magpie-rescue-friendship-bloom-family-australia/
[01:15:31] <ssi> _methods: yea they are pretty fun
[01:19:10] <_methods> it's a very cool machine
[01:19:22] <_methods> i'm probably in way over my head
[01:19:36] <_methods> but as a machinist it's pretty fascinating checking it out
[01:20:09] <_methods> and $87 for the singer 211 is about as good a score as you can ask for
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[01:21:04] <_methods> i'm just going to try and sell the other one
[01:21:14] <_methods> looks like i should be able to dump it for $400 easy
[01:21:29] <_methods> most on ebay are $650+ buy it now
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[01:26:17] <Cromaglious__> wee... pw3618 yoocnc is such a crappy spindle controller
[01:27:17] <Cromaglious__> I've bypassed the 1ohm 2w resistors used in the current sense circuit and quit using PWM from mach and back to using the pot speed control
[01:29:00] <Cromaglious__> took out a clamping diode which is already built into the mosfett and made it a drain resistor, upped the limit resistor from the 555 timer and put a adjustable pot parallel to that for output control
[01:29:44] <Cromaglious__> so now I have it set to not go over 50v when the spindle is hooked up
[01:30:17] <Cromaglious__> when my new .5 ohm 10watt resistor get here, I build a new current sense circuit
[01:30:21] <_methods> was that the controller that came with one of those 400w spindles?
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[01:30:49] <Cromaglious__> stock 3040 engraver with a 52mm 300w spindle
[01:31:08] <Cromaglious__> yoocnc nt65-3x stepper control and BOB
[01:31:44] <_methods> so just the spindle controller is bad?
[01:31:47] <Cromaglious__> also modded the nt65-3x to be able to set micro steps via a DIP switch gang
[01:31:59] <Cromaglious__> it's crap from the factory
[01:32:20] <_methods> yeah i've heard that quite a bit lol
[01:32:28] <Cromaglious__> using 2 1 ohm 2watt resisters which burn out first time a spindle is overloaded
[01:33:13] <Cromaglious__> which once those are comprimised the 100ohm 1/4w current sense circuit resister gets the full 55v and it burns out
[01:34:04] <Cromaglious__> so my new current limiter circuit is gonna be built to be able to handle dead shorts
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[01:52:52] <Cromaglious__> so right now to finish a job I just bypassed the 1 ohm resistors
[01:53:35] * LeelooMinai imagines Cromaglious__ saying that while encompassed by a cloud of smoke
[01:54:13] <renesis> sometimes the smoke is from not important parts
[01:55:21] <Cromaglious__> already smokede the 100 lhm 1/4w and the 16v electrolytic cap on the current sense circuit
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[02:23:43] <ssi> zeeshan: wut you do
[02:24:00] <ssi> zeeshan:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CABiyYCUIAAAmsQ.jpg:large
[02:24:04] <ssi> I redid the bed as a weldment
[02:24:10] <ssi> I'll go back and redo the frame as a weldment as well
[02:24:24] <ssi> I'm starting to wonder if supporting the bed at the four corners is going to be sufficient!
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[02:38:27] <Jymmm> DIY Mini Lathe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCaGW9z4blM
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[02:53:36] <Cromaglious__> when the 16v cap went it suprised the heck out of me.
[02:55:26] <Cromaglious__> ok I'm leaving creatorspace.us, gonna go eat, then go home.
[02:55:36] <Jymmm> Lathe strip sander
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d1JDEp0164
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[03:03:13] <alex4nder> Jymmm: haha, that lathe guy shouldn't be allowed near power tools
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[03:13:15] <furrywolf> that may be the most phallic lathe attachment I've ever seen.
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[03:42:53] <Cromaglious> it is a bit aint it
[03:50:59] <renesis> its more symbolism cock than realism cock
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[03:56:45] <furrywolf> lol
[04:01:02] <Cromaglious> well isn't that special...
[04:01:44] <Cromaglious> well my tb6600 driver got here today
[04:01:59] <furrywolf> is it crap?
[04:02:05] <Cromaglious> now I have to figure out what the latch function is
[04:04:11] <Cromaglious> it actually looks better than a tb6560
[04:05:36] <furrywolf> bbl, wolfy bedtime
[04:12:17] <Cromaglious> http://itslinux.org/cnc/tb6560-tb6600-p1.jpg
[04:12:21] <Cromaglious> http://itslinux.org/cnc/tb6560-tb6600-p2.jpg
[04:13:57] <Cromaglious> the red one the tb6600 the heat sink is actually the mounting point as well
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[05:07:51] <Jymmm> alex4nder: Why not? For never using one, he did pretty good.
[05:08:24] <Jymmm> alex4nder: a drill, threaded rod, and some scrap wood.
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[07:10:29] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/16189113433/in/photostream/
[07:10:33] <zeeshan> getting good surfac efinish
[07:10:33] <zeeshan> :D
[07:11:28] <Cromaglious> got your lathe working again?
[07:11:58] <zeeshan> yes
[07:12:14] <Cromaglious> nice figure out what is was?
[07:12:36] <Cromaglious> nice firewood to the left there
[07:13:48] <zeeshan> play in the gib
[07:14:25] <Cromaglious> I got the spindle working on the crappy 3040 again... the 2ea 1 ohm 2 watt resistors also burned up... I have a .5 ohm 10watt on order to replaccccccccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee them
[07:14:43] <Cromaglious> told ya
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[07:15:04] <Cromaglious> white gib or all of them?
[07:15:06] <zeeshan> lol
[07:15:09] <Cromaglious> which
[07:15:11] <zeeshan> only one gib on the machine
[07:15:12] <zeeshan> x axis
[07:15:29] <Cromaglious> cross slide
[07:15:31] <zeeshan> so hungry!
[07:15:36] <zeeshan> yes
[07:15:48] <Cromaglious> you took the compound off?
[07:15:56] <Cromaglious> or no gib on it
[07:16:04] <zeeshan> there was a gib
[07:16:07] <zeeshan> just not tight enough
[07:17:17] <Cromaglious> I bypassed the current sense circuit witht the 2 1 ohms were part of and it's all working again
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[07:35:57] <zeeshan> do you cut aluminum with that router?
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[07:46:33] <Cromaglious> I have not a pretty sight
[07:47:00] <Cromaglious> I have a 400w spindle on order and a new spindle driver
[07:47:18] <Cromaglious> I'm tapping the current spindle board for DC power
[07:49:36] <Cromaglious> so 45v at 400w will be under 10 amps I should be good
[07:50:16] <Cromaglious> replace the IRF740 with a 30amp 60v mosfett
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[07:50:38] <Cromaglious> s/ce/ced/
[07:51:41] <Cromaglious> hmm irf740 is only good for 10 amps...
[07:52:08] <Cromaglious> good thing...
[07:53:10] <Cromaglious> got build an inverter circuit so when amprage gets over 10 amps it limits to 10, ad when voltage gets to 48 it needs to clamp it to 48
[07:53:30] <Cromaglious> got to build
[07:53:58] <archivist> that is a regulator not an inverter
[07:54:14] <Cromaglious> using a 74 inverter I meant
[07:54:40] <Cromaglious> so logic 1 inverter to logic 0 and turns off
[07:54:52] <archivist> limits like that are usually in the analogue domain
[07:55:30] <archivist> you mean set alarms and stop
[07:55:33] <Cromaglious> if amp <= 10 and voltage <= 48 then output 1 else output 0
[07:56:07] <Cromaglious> cut the drive to the mosfet so voltage drops and amperage drops
[07:56:34] <Cromaglious> as long as voltage and amperage is under limits I'm fine
[07:57:59] <Cromaglious> the current sense on the board worked... no where to hook it up to
[07:58:11] <archivist> regulation, keeping something at a limit is different to folding back to 0 amps
[07:59:26] <Deejay> moin
[07:59:40] <archivist> there are many current and voltage regulation circuits out there, they dont use logic though
[08:00:37] <archivist> well they do to an extent, they OR the regulation term in the analogue domain
[08:01:32] <archivist> current foldback limit is a psu and circuit protection that needs the load removing to restart
[08:02:20] <Cromaglious> it's a 555 driving the mosfet, so I need to shut off the pwm to keep things under 10amps and 48v
[08:03:54] <Cromaglious> hmm shoot I need to regulate the other side of the 555
[08:04:28] <Cromaglious> my first way would make the mosfet heat up to much
[08:05:02] <Cromaglious> which I realize is what was happening tonight
[08:05:48] <renesis> damn @ 555
[08:08:50] <renesis> cromaglious: comparator, and gate, done
[08:11:07] <archivist> by the way, stalling the motor is going to break tooling
[08:11:17] <archivist> and the machine
[08:11:36] <archivist> unless you feed the overload back to estop
[08:13:20] <renesis> http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/AZV393.pdf
[08:14:15] <archivist> small temporary overloads in motor circuits are normal and should be designed for
[08:14:30] <archivist> cut the small from that
[08:14:48] <renesis> voltage divider off the 48V into one comparator channel, low side current sense resistor into the other comparator, feed into and gate exactly like in 2nd circuit on first page
[08:14:49] <archivist> acceleration is never a small load either
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[09:30:55] <archivist> just missed pi time
http://i.imgur.com/pPAfyNQ.jpg
[09:37:22] <XXCoder> just ate some pie
[09:38:11] <archivist> a radian sized portion
[09:38:57] <XXCoder> here its 2 am
[09:39:03] <XXCoder> so still will happen
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[11:18:42] <pippin88> Does anyone know how to implement a hardware button to reset spindle / feed override?
[11:18:55] <pippin88> I've got increase, and decrease, working fine through HALUI
[11:29:12] <archivist> define what you mean by reset and connect to sensible pins
[11:32:57] <archivist> some trickery with a mux component
[11:36:40] <pippin88> sorry, I could have been clearer
[11:36:55] <pippin88> I want a button to set the speed back to 100%
[11:37:06] <pippin88> I've implemented increase and decrease using HALUI.
[11:37:53] <pippin88> I've also got a 'shift' button that changes the increment. If I only press increase/decrease, it changes by 10%. If I hold the shift button and press increase/decrease, it changes by 5%
[11:38:01] <pippin88> I did this with mux2.9 and it works well
[11:38:41] <pippin88> I've got a fourth button, I'd like it to set the feed back to 100% with a single press
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[11:39:29] <pippin88> There doesn't seem to be a HALUI pin for this, and I couldn't work out how to set a fixed value
[11:39:36] <archivist> I think this is similar to something done in the hobbing setup, where we inc/dec or set a value
[11:40:28] <archivist> look how the value is set when linuxcnc starts up
[11:41:30] <archivist> like halui.feed-override.counts (s32, in) - counts * scale = FO percentage. Can be used with an encoder or direct-value.
[11:45:03] <pippin88> so can I some thing like: setp halui.feed-override.counts 10
[11:45:23] <pippin88> net resetbtn halui.feed-override.counts
[11:46:16] <pippin88> (I'm not at my workshop, so can't test changes till tomorrow)
[11:47:35] <archivist> one of those try it and see
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[12:29:53] <jthornton> hmm, my lathe roughing cycle needs to offset perpendicular to a line to get the correct distance
[12:31:37] <archivist> something flexing?
[12:32:54] <jthornton> I'm just talking out loud about my G71ish python program
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[14:14:21] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150313-digital-cobbler-feetz-raises-seed-funding-for-customizable-3d-printed-shoes.html unfortunately this means thousands of variations of Crocs vs shoes you want
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[14:17:18] <archivist> walk 200ft and the plastic cracks
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[14:24:41] <archivist> it would be more sensible to have a cnc last that is set to the measurements and standard materials used
[14:30:39] <CaptHindsight> whats obvious to me now is that these venture and investment firms don't ask anyone that actually knows how tech works about the feasibility of these idea with the tech they are proposing
[14:31:19] <archivist> yes, jumping on the ba(n)dwagon
[14:32:12] <archivist> and some/most of the "inventors"
[14:34:21] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150227-sols-raises-million-to-bring-3d-printed-shoe-insoles-to-consumers.html for custom gel insoles?
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[15:12:19] <maZer`-> hi all
[15:12:38] <maZer`-> is there any way to do if routine in g-code, like if M8 ( coolant on) ?
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[15:19:17] <archivist> you mean
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/o-code.html#sec:conditional
[15:19:57] <ssi> I dunno if there's a way to look at the state of the coolant in an if though
[15:20:37] <ssi> you may have to use something like M66 and tie coolant state to a digital input
[15:21:09] <furrywolf> meh. raining today. no yard saling.
[15:22:12] <ssi> turbofoggy here
[15:22:13] <ssi> no flying
[15:23:16] <furrywolf> that's what instruments are for.
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[15:26:33] <ssi> yeah but there's such a thing as approach minimums
[15:26:39] <ssi> and we are rather below them
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[15:27:04] <ssi> plus launching into imc for the jolly hell of it is not remarkably wise
[15:27:53] <furrywolf> lol
[15:28:15] <furrywolf> don't they have gps down to pretty close to 0/0 these days?
[15:28:47] <archivist> gps cannot see obstacles
[15:29:13] <furrywolf> that's what ATC and praying is for.
[15:29:21] <archivist> and no the error vertically is much worse than horizontal on gps
[15:29:42] <ssi> archivist: actually waas fixes that pretty well
[15:29:58] <ssi> we have precision gps approaches now, but legal minimums on them don't go any lower than 200', same as a cat 1 ILS
[15:30:11] <ssi> and my airport only has gps approaches, and the mins on them are 540' I think
[15:30:20] <ssi> so I might be able to get out, but I wouldn't be able to come back :)
[15:30:36] <ssi> could do it if I had to, but it wouldn't be legal or safe or wise
[15:31:06] <furrywolf> you seem to think those three things stop people.
[15:31:21] <archivist> idiots or sensible people
[15:31:39] <JT-Shop> maZer`-, what are you trying to accomplish?
[15:32:26] <ssi> I'm really not sure what your argument is
[15:33:12] <furrywolf> lol
[15:34:19] <ssi> I think you just like to argue for arguing's sake :)
[15:35:07] <pcw_home> You have a problem with that?
[15:35:15] <furrywolf> lol
[15:35:42] <archivist> is this the five minute argument or the full half hour?
[15:36:08] <ssi> wat
[15:36:40] <archivist> Monty Python argument sketch
[15:36:46] <ssi> ah
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[16:24:33] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAEjLTdUMAEM0RZ.jpg:large
[16:26:06] <ssi> this bastard is going to be expensive to build :/
[16:26:07] <JT-Shop> plasma table?
[16:26:30] <ssi> laser
[16:27:18] <JT-Shop> belt drive?
[16:27:23] <ssi> yea
[16:28:09] <JT-Shop> make sure it rolls real smooth or you will get the shakes... wanna know how I know?
[16:28:23] <ssi> yeah my last one shook some
[16:28:53] <ssi> I dunno how smooth it'll be with this motion system
[16:29:00] <ssi> just running delrin V wheels in the t-slot
[16:29:38] <ssi> blah I gotta run... bbiab
[16:30:15] <archivist> ssi add cross bracing
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[16:51:24] <maZer`-> JT-Shop my problem is i have in my cam software added g4 p5 m8
[16:51:37] <maZer`-> if coolant will be enabled he should wait 5 seconds
[16:51:46] <maZer`-> sorry m8 first and then g4 p5
[16:52:22] <maZer`-> but on next job he wait 5 seconds again, and i want to insert if(coolant off) { M8 G4 P5 }
[16:59:06] <JT-Shop> maZer`-,
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/o-code.html#sec:conditional
[16:59:53] <archivist> same thing I pointed at :)
[17:00:17] <JT-Shop> set #31 to 0 when coolant is off and use if endif
[17:00:21] <JT-Shop> :)
[17:00:49] <archivist> or coolant off = net iocontrol.0.coolant-flood
[17:01:00] <JT-Shop> nap time around here
[17:01:11] <archivist> setting a gcode flag is about as easy
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[17:09:59] <tjtr33> there is no feedback for coolant on, there is only feedback for the command was issued.
[17:10:05] <tjtr33> i dunno how critical it is for you.
[17:10:15] <tjtr33> if you dont trust that it happens when you ask for it. write a hal or ladder program to do it that returns significant validation.
[17:10:17] <tjtr33> look at supplied config 'halui-pyvcp' for the trusting version.
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[17:20:19] <ffurrywol> only way to really confirm it's on is a flow switch. :)
[17:25:19] <ffurrywol> #1 = 1 (assign parameter #1 the value of 0)
[17:25:30] <ffurrywol> ... lol?
[17:26:41] <kb8wmc_> anyone know of a working auto bed height (leveling) configuration for LinuxCNC 3d printing?
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[17:33:50] <CaptHindsight> kb8wmc_: what kind of printer design and tech? cnc glue gun?
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[17:34:46] <ffurrywol> "Subroutines do not have return values" ... "Subroutines may optionally return a value"
[17:35:23] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: no, it is a gantry type extruded aluminum frame with J style hot end
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[17:36:13] <SpeedEvil> "objects in the rearview mirror may appear closer than they are"
[17:36:15] <CaptHindsight> kb8wmc_: how is the bed mounted? post pics.
[17:36:24] <ffurrywol> s/no/yes
[17:36:57] <kb8wmc_> stationary bed mounted to base frame, moving Z axis
[17:38:02] <miss0r> I was handed an older version of mastercam by a friend who doesn't use it anymore. I am looking for a linuxCNC post processor that works. I have found the
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Cam_Post and downloaded the EMC2.zip file from there. But that does not contain the same file types that I can find in mastercam X5. I can only find something called *.MMD-5 and *.GMD-5. Do any of
[17:38:02] <miss0r> you know how to make this work somehow? or what processor to use to do some working export ?
[17:38:36] <CaptHindsight> kb8wmc_: you can write a book describing it or post some detailed pics
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[17:39:33] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: will try to locate a picture and post it...
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[17:45:55] <lffurrywo> grrrrrr. my connection is really sucking today.
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[17:51:19] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: I cannot locate a picture of it, I may have deleted it...or it may just be lost somewhere in my file system
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[17:51:55] <archivist> kb8wmc_, best to machine adjust the bed to be flat
[17:52:33] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: think of it as a table top router type...
[17:53:38] <kb8wmc_> CaptHindsight: roger that, I take it you have not heard of or seen such bed compensation for LinuxCNC?
[17:53:42] <archivist> kb8wmc_, but if too lazy to fix the mechanics
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProbeKin
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[17:53:57] <archivist> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProbeKins missed an s
[17:54:24] <kb8wmc_> archivist tnx
[18:05:00] <lffurrywo> that's pretty handy, actually... I'll need to remember that.
[18:05:59] <archivist> it is for pcb milling rather and similar rather than machine fixing
[18:06:19] <lffurrywo> yeah, that's what I'd want it for - it's hard to get pcbs perfectly flat.
[18:08:49] <miss0r> have anyone in here successfully used gcode output from mastercam in linuxcnc?
[18:09:03] <lffurrywo> not I. isn't mastercam annoyingly expensive?
[18:09:47] <archivist> miss0r, I think some do, but you may need to fiddle the post processor for best results
[18:09:50] <miss0r> lffurrywo: yes it is. lucky for me a friend of mine had an older version and dongle he gave me
[18:10:14] <miss0r> archivist: I'm having a hard time figuring this out :)
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[18:12:11] <lffurrywo> so how long should I leave parts in my electrolysis rust removal test bucket? been about 20 hours now...
[18:12:43] <archivist> till looks ok and no longer mebe
[18:13:45] <lffurrywo> that'd mean I have to pull it out, which is annoying since I dropped random anodes around it and would have to pull them out and put them back in later...
[18:13:57] <lffurrywo> plus I have 9 jumper wires connecting different parts of it
[18:16:44] <lffurrywo> (chain binder, with various moving parts, hooks, etc)
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[18:28:24] <lffurrywo> bbl, plumbing
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[18:34:49] <zeeshan> http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7621/16809035215_a33ef1bd83_h.jpg"
[18:34:51] <zeeshan> http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7621/16809035215_a33ef1bd83_h.jpg
[18:34:56] <zeeshan> made the collar for my drill chuck
[18:35:00] <zeeshan> cnc ftw!
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[18:45:47] <SpeedEvil> :)
[18:46:05] <SpeedEvil> CNC, or knurl?
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[18:48:15] <zeeshan> well knurl was done on the lathe too
[18:48:57] <zeeshan> http://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8589/16189113433_5a4265b06f_h.jpg
[18:49:03] <zeeshan> surface finish in hot roll now
[18:49:22] <zeeshan> minu the chatter from my chamfering tool
[18:49:30] <zeeshan> i really dislike those spiral flute chamfering bits
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[19:00:46] <maZer`-> big big thanks JT-Shop and archivist :D
[19:01:20] <maZer`-> an tjtr33 :)
[19:01:22] <maZer`-> and
[19:08:22] <sliptonic> I have a magnetic brake on the Z axis. I'd like to always turn it off before a move and on right after a move. What are the right search terms/ hal components I should be looking at?
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[19:13:39] <skunkworks> sliptonic: normally you would just turn the brake off when linuxcnc is 'on' and in control.
[19:15:25] <skunkworks> it is unlikely that the brake will turn off quick enough unless you have a delay. which would screw up motion.
[19:15:42] <sliptonic> ahh. o.k. Easy enough.
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[19:30:45] <pcw_home> arghh this time I am going to remove the laptop harddrive when I install Debian on the SSD
[19:30:47] <Cromaglious> http://itslinux.org/cnc/0313.html
[19:30:57] <Swapper> pcw_home: you there? Would it be possible to read a 0-5v diferientail pressure sensor with the 7i77 in some smart way ?
[19:31:08] <Cromaglious> pictures of my FUBAR pw3618 power supply
[19:31:17] <Swapper> i read that field voltage can be mesured
[19:31:38] <Swapper> but i need to read 0-5v and my field voltage is 24v
[19:32:09] <Cromaglious> Swapper: look for a setting sserial=000xxx and change it to sserial=300xxx
[19:32:23] <Cromaglious> you can then read analog values from your inputs
[19:32:34] <Cromaglious> wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwith proper settings
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[19:33:16] <Cromaglious> Mac was having the same problem earlier.. so you might look at the logs
[19:33:17] <Swapper> yea but would it work if u feed the pressure sensor with 5v stepped down from the 24v fieldvoltage and then feed the signal to the 7i77 ?
[19:34:03] <Cromaglious> you can play with it using a resister bridge
[19:34:59] <Cromaglious> actually do a google search for sserial=300xxx that's how I found it
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[19:35:17] <Swapper> i have some LM2596 stepdowns, that can be set to 5v
[19:35:43] <Swapper> but im more unsure of the connecting it to the 7i77 part
[19:35:47] <Swapper> dont wanna fry it
[19:37:09] <Cromaglious> put in a current limiting resister then
[19:42:03] <pcw_home> swapper not very well, you can add a 7I87
[19:44:34] <Swapper> ok ty
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[20:02:25] <pcw_home> You are no likely to fry 7I77 inputs (120 VAC for a short time wont hurt) the just are low res A-D with 36V full scale
[20:03:19] <Swapper> ok, ill make some arduino thingy that can read the 5v
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[20:03:41] <pcw_home> so a 5 V FS signal would only be ~5 bits resolution
[20:04:10] <pcw_home> if you dont need real time, Arduino is fine
[20:04:13] <Swapper> its only to get some value if the coolant filter is clogged
[20:04:22] <Swapper> so no need for realtime
[20:04:28] <pcw_home> yeah not real time
[20:10:05] <pcw_home> Hmm learned my lesson with update grub (few hours to fix)
[20:11:00] <skunkworks> pcw_home: what happened?
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[20:12:25] <pcw_home> well I installed the new kernel on my laptop (running on a debian only SSD) but it installed grub on the windows hard drive
[20:12:53] <skunkworks> oops
[20:13:57] <pcw_home> so i remove my SSD to instal the DVD drive to install Xilinx ISE on windows and get GRUB rescue menu no drive 776576587655884 or some such
[20:15:14] <pcw_home> so didnt have a windows recover disk and no way to make one (cant boot windows anymore without SSD in DVD slot)
[20:17:30] <pcw_home> so had to find a MBR tool (WTF doesn't windows have on in a standard installation?)
[20:17:31] <pcw_home> to fix the windows disk and then needed to re-install debian to fix the also non bootable SSD
[20:17:33] <pcw_home> (since no grub was installed on it)
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[20:22:08] <pcw_home> I can fix it a lot faster now anyway... (less time spent swearing)
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[20:33:06] <pcw_home> re-install was mostly a no-op since I didn't reformat the partitions so nothing really lost
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[21:07:23] <Swapper> if i would like to only compile a user comp from a git pull how would i do that ?
[21:07:26] <Swapper> /linuxcnc-dev/src/hal/user_comps/vfs11_vfd
[21:14:49] <cradek> back up, why do you want to do that?
[21:15:49] <Swapper> i have tried getting the Altivar vfd comp working, but its old and outdated, thaught that i maybe could change the vfs11_vfd code to use the right registers for the Altivar
[21:17:45] <cradek> that is one that uses the modbus library, not a trivial build. you'll probably have to build and run the whole tree.
[21:18:30] <cradek> I don't know what altivar vfd comp you are talking about - we don't have one in the tree by that name
[21:18:47] <Swapper> no its contributed
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?VFD_Modbus
[21:18:58] <Swapper> http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb/emc2-dev.git/shortlog/refs/heads/altivar-vfd-comp
[21:19:25] <Swapper> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/24-hal-components/28954-compiling-altivar-vfd-modbus-comphttp://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/24-hal-components/28954-compiling-altivar-vfd-modbus-comp
[21:19:47] <Swapper> i asked and someone got it so i could compile it but it wont talkt correctly to the comport
[21:19:47] <cradek> ahh, someone's old branch with no maintainer, that never got contributed
[21:19:58] <cradek> if you want to fix it up and become the maintainer I'll help you contribute it
[21:20:36] <Swapper> im not sawwy enough, i only thaugt i could give it a try to change the modbus registers
[21:20:51] <Swapper> else ill try the mb2hal
[21:21:01] <Swapper> since that can read the registers but its not as fancy
[21:22:20] <cradek> yeah unfortunately this is a bad commit that needs a lot of work
[21:22:35] <cradek> it's hard to say what approach would be best for you to try
[21:23:36] <tjtr33> Swapper, did you try to contact the author?
[21:23:44] <Swapper> yea the mail is dead
[21:23:52] <Swapper> got a bounce
[21:23:58] <tjtr33> sorry
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[21:28:34] <zeeshan> swapper
[21:28:39] <Swapper> yes
[21:29:00] <zeeshan> do you have a link to the manual for your vfd?
[21:29:05] <zeeshan> i'd like to see the communication method for it
[21:29:14] <Swapper> 1 sec
[21:29:27] <zeeshan> to see if you can quickly change some of my code around with diffeerent registers
[21:29:30] <zeeshan> and make it work
[21:30:56] <Swapper> http://www.engineering.schneider-electric.dk/Attachments/ia/use_main/atv31_communication_variables_user_manual.pdf
[21:31:03] <Swapper> thats the modbus config manual
[21:31:16] <Jymmm> https://github.com/mhaberler
[21:31:30] <Swapper> zeeshan:
http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb?p=emc2-dev.git;a=blob;f=src/hal/contrib/altivar-vfd-comp/atv/atv_vfd.c;h=8a746c04959aad1f98023107fd55bab0cec82a99;hb=04e08b52b28732b4bf2fb0dd7283fe7496741167
[21:31:49] <Swapper> Thats what the old authr used in the non working comp
[21:32:10] <Swapper> so you dont need to plow the whole manual
[21:32:52] <zeeshan> its easier to see the manual
[21:33:02] <zeeshan> page 12 gives the register for fwd / rev etc
[21:33:08] <zeeshan> 0x8601
[21:33:44] <zeeshan> ah i see it in the code too
[21:34:03] <Swapper> yea its the same only in hex in the code
[21:34:41] <zeeshan> ok sweet
[21:35:05] <zeeshan> you could make that comp work somehow
[21:35:09] <zeeshan> or just use python
[21:35:47] <Swapper> Its over my head to debug why the original code is not working.
[21:36:04] <zeeshan> is communication 100% working
[21:36:11] <zeeshan> with the vfd so you can send some test commands?
[21:36:21] <Swapper> yea
[21:36:26] <Swapper> 2 min away
[21:36:44] <zeeshan> what are you settings for the protocol
[21:36:46] <zeeshan> ascii? rtu ?
[21:36:50] <Swapper> rtu
[21:36:57] <zeeshan> can you use ascii?
[21:37:32] <Swapper> dont think so
[21:37:47] <zeeshan> thats fine
[21:38:38] <Swapper> SERIAL_BAUD=19200 SERIAL_BITS=8 SERIAL_PARITY=even MB_SLAVE_ID=1
[21:39:12] <zeeshan> stop bits?
[21:39:37] <Swapper> 1
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[21:40:20] <Swapper> i have that in the mb2hal config and i can read registers fine there
[21:40:37] <zeeshan> ah okay
[21:41:20] <zeeshan> gimme a sec ill give you a sample code to run
[21:41:24] <Swapper> shure!
[21:41:24] <zeeshan> to read some registers and see if it works.
[21:41:36] <Swapper> great
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[21:49:36] <zeeshan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5u2pnc1tolccntp/comms.py?dl=0
[21:49:51] <zeeshan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2om3aczyqs7z6lo/altivar.py?dl=0
[21:49:52] <Swapper> ok
[21:49:54] <zeeshan> download those 2 files
[21:49:59] <zeeshan> and put them in /usr/local/bin
[21:50:12] <zeeshan> and do chmod +x altivar.py
[21:50:21] <zeeshan> then type halrun
[21:50:24] <Swapper> are you Jonas ?
[21:50:26] <zeeshan> loadusr altivar.py
[21:50:38] <zeeshan> see if it gives you any communication errors
[21:50:44] <zeeshan> ive only put read commands, so its s afe.
[21:50:46] <Swapper> ill test it, gime a sec
[21:50:55] <zeeshan> no im not jonas :P
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[22:02:40] <Deejay> gn8
[22:02:45] <Swapper> halcmd: loadusr /usr/local/bin/altivar.py
[22:02:46] <Swapper> halcmd: <stdin>:1: execv(/usr/local/bin/altivar.py): No such file or directory
[22:03:03] <Swapper> zeeshan: im probably doin it wrong here though
[22:03:10] <zeeshan> no
[22:03:15] <zeeshan> just do loadusr altivar.py
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[22:03:20] <zeeshan> no need for path
[22:03:37] <Swapper> same error
[22:04:28] <zeeshan> did you store the file in the write path?
[22:05:06] <Swapper> /usr/local/bin
[22:05:14] <Swapper> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 1902 Mar 14 21:56 altivar.py
[22:05:20] <Swapper> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 98535 Mar 14 21:53 comms.py-rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 98535 Mar 14 21:53 comms.py
[22:06:17] <Swapper> /usr/local/bin# ./altivar.py
[22:06:18] <Swapper> bash: ./altivar.py: /usr/bin/python^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[22:06:25] <Swapper> but thats when i run it from bash
[22:06:29] <zeeshan> oh you dont have python installed?
[22:06:34] <Swapper> yea i have
[22:07:13] <zeeshan> find where the python intrepreter is
[22:07:32] <Swapper> whereis python
[22:07:33] <Swapper> python: /usr/bin/python
[22:07:46] <zeeshan> lol what the heck is going on
[22:08:21] <Swapper> #!/usr/bin/env python
[22:08:24] <Swapper> is that right ?
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[22:08:56] <zeeshan> yes
[22:09:10] <zeeshan> maybe hard code it instead
[22:09:12] <zeeshan> and see if thats the problem
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[22:09:19] <zeeshan> replace it with #!/usr/bin/python
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[22:10:11] <Cromaglious> ^m says to me he needs to run it thru dos2unix
[22:10:28] <Cromaglious> get rid of the cccccccccarriage reeeeeeeeeeeturns
[22:10:42] <Swapper> doh
[22:10:52] <Swapper> sec
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[22:19:33] <Swapper> halcmd: Traceback (most recent call last):
[22:19:33] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/altivar.py", line 2, in <module>
[22:19:33] <Swapper> import linuxcnc, hal, time, comms
[22:19:33] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 56, in <module>
[22:19:33] <Swapper> import serial
[22:19:35] <Swapper> ImportError: No module named serial
[22:19:41] <Swapper> atleast got it to run
[22:20:33] <zeeshan> are you using ubuntu?
[22:20:52] <zeeshan> easy_install -U pyserial
[22:22:15] <Swapper> apt-get install python-serial
[22:22:19] <Swapper> im dumb.. sorry
[22:22:29] <zeeshan> youre not dumb
[22:22:34] <zeeshan> i need to put this in the instructions
[22:25:02] <Swapper> halcmd: Traceback (most recent call last):
[22:25:02] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/altivar.py", line 44, in <module>
[22:25:02] <Swapper> vfd['spindlevfd.drivestatus'] = int(serialvfd1.read_register(3201, 0))
[22:25:02] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 274, in read_register
[22:25:02] <Swapper> return self._genericCommand(functioncode, registeraddress, numberOfDecimals=numberOfDecimals, signed=signed)
[22:25:06] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 713, in _genericCommand
[22:25:08] <Swapper> payloadFromSlave = self._performCommand(functioncode, payloadToSlave)
[22:25:11] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 819, in _performCommand
[22:25:13] <Swapper> payloadFromSlave = _extractPayload(response, self.address, self.mode, functioncode)
[22:25:16] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 1099, in _extractPayload
[22:25:19] <Swapper> receivedChecksum = _hexdecode(response[-numberOfChecksumBytes:])
[22:25:21] <Swapper> File "/usr/local/bin/comms.py", line 1841, in _hexdecode
[22:25:21] <zeeshan> use pastebin for lage dumps :p
[22:25:24] <Swapper> raise TypeError('Hexdecode reported an error: {}. Input hexstring: {}'.format(err.message, hexstring))
[22:25:27] <Swapper> TypeError: Hexdecode reported an error: Non-hexadecimal digit found. Input hexstring: รน>
[22:25:30] <Swapper> sorry
[22:25:32] <Swapper> yes will do
[22:26:01] <Swapper> http://pastebin.com/StLrVima
[22:26:05] <zeeshan> son of a bitch, it wants it in hex
[22:26:06] <zeeshan> lol
[22:26:40] <Swapper> http://git.mah.priv.at/gitweb?p=emc2-dev.git;a=blob;f=src/hal/contrib/altivar-vfd-comp/atv/atv_vfd.c;h=8a746c04959aad1f98023107fd55bab0cec82a99;hb=04e08b52b28732b4bf2fb0dd7283fe7496741167
[22:26:48] <Swapper> you have the hex ones there
[22:26:54] <Swapper> most of them atleast
[22:26:57] <zeeshan> those are decimal
[22:27:14] <Swapper> no
[22:27:23] <Swapper> #define REG_CMD 0x2135 // Control Word CMD 8501 frequency
[22:27:28] <Swapper> 0x2135 <<< hex ?
[22:27:34] <zeeshan> yes thats hex
[22:27:43] <Swapper> #define REG_CMD 0x2135 // Control Word CMD 8501 <<decimal frequency
[22:28:06] <zeeshan> the vfd manual is abit odd cause it gives the register address in decimal
[22:28:24] <Swapper> yea ive seen both types
[22:28:28] <Swapper> its a mishmash
[22:28:34] <zeeshan> just sudo chmod altivar.py
[22:28:38] <zeeshan> er
[22:28:44] <zeeshan> sudo modify the altivar.py
[22:28:59] <zeeshan> 3201 should be replaced by 0xC81
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[22:29:52] <zeeshan> 3202 = 0xC82, 3204 = 0xC84 , 3205=0xC85, 3206=0xC86, 3207=0xC87
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[22:36:39] <Swapper> http://pastebin.com/BEngaS8B
[22:36:43] <Swapper> similar error
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[22:38:02] <zeeshan> oh, the addresses were fine
[22:38:12] <zeeshan> its having a hard time intrepreting the response from your vfd :P
[22:38:39] <zeeshan> are you sure you've got rtu mode set on the vfd?
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[22:39:34] <Swapper> modpoll -m rtu -a 1 -r 1 -c 10 /dev/ttyACM1
[22:39:35] <Swapper> yea
[22:39:38] <Swapper> couse that works
[22:39:42] <Swapper> i get values
[22:40:36] <zeeshan> well
[22:40:47] <zeeshan> if thats the command youre using, then its not set to 19200 bps
[22:40:54] <zeeshan> 9600 is the default value in modpoll
[22:41:17] <Swapper> -b # Baudrate (e.g. 9600, 19200, ...) (19200 is default)
[22:41:24] <zeeshan> oh
[22:44:51] <zeeshan> would need to do some debugging on the response message to get anywhere
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[22:48:44] <Swapper> i have no real clue on how to get that debug info tough
[22:48:58] <Swapper> can pyserial debug?
[22:49:16] <CaptHindsight> "PC LOAD LETTER" ?
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[22:49:49] <zeeshan> you will need to go to line 1841 in comms.py
[22:50:03] <zeeshan> output the hex string that has causing the fault
[22:50:13] <zeeshan> i feel like its to do with incorrect communication setting
[22:52:53] <_methods> heheh
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[22:53:27] <_methods> CaptHindsight: did you see they redid office space with the real michael bolton playing michael bolton
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[22:58:23] <Swapper> zeeshan: ill laborate with some comm settings.
[22:58:28] <Swapper> Ty for the help so far !
[22:58:42] <zeeshan> np
[22:58:46] <zeeshan> once you get it reading
[22:58:52] <zeeshan> its really easy from there
[22:59:10] <Swapper> yea think i get the idea of it now
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[23:14:54] <Cromaglious> sheeshz what's this bullpucky.. dos2unix is now called tofrodos
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[23:16:22] <pcw_home> Its that LOTR tie in money
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[23:28:40] <Cromaglious> sudo ln -s todos unix2dos
[23:28:48] <Cromaglious> well that fixes that
[23:29:01] <Cromaglious> sudo ln -s fromdos dos2unix
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[23:31:05] <Tom_itx> is there a way to force win7 to run 32 bit?
[23:31:09] <Tom_itx> programs...
[23:33:26] <Cromaglious> compatibility mode, but drivers are only 64 bit
[23:33:52] <Tom_itx> i don't care to re-purchase all my software
[23:33:53] <Cromaglious> so I can't run my nicolaudio suidi5c dmx controller
[23:36:00] <Cromaglious> my 32bit laptops aren't that stable anymore
[23:36:31] <Tom_itx> only other option i see is to get win7 32bit but it's hard to find
[23:36:47] <Tom_itx> and that would kinda defeat the purpose of upgrading too
[23:40:50] <Cromaglious> well I got a 12 slider dmx console, and I have DMXking usb for 64bit computer controlled
[23:41:22] <Cromaglious> IF I need it... just looking at getting some wireless dmx transceivers
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