#linuxcnc | Logs for 2015-02-13

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[00:00:17] <Tom_itx> http://za.rs-online.com/web/p/sheet-metal-clips/3003052/
[00:03:52] <tjb1> panel is too thick for those
[00:06:37] <tjb1> http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/details/11120284?searchMode=productSearch&filterByVendingMachine=
[00:06:40] <tjb1> so helpful
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[00:09:05] <tjb1> Welp I sent an email to toby, doubt they will respond to sell 16 of them
[00:09:27] <Tom_itx> probably 100 in a bag
[00:09:43] <Tom_itx> try ace hardware
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[00:27:24] <witnit> Can someone explain what is happening here? here is a set of commands i am running for mesaflash
[00:27:27] <witnit> http://what.duckdns.org/mesaflashsample.sh
[00:27:33] <witnit> here is the output log
[00:27:39] <witnit> http://what.duckdns.org/log.log
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[00:28:25] <witnit> it does not read the card at 0x800 then i try it at 0xa then go back to trying it at 0x800 and it reads no problem
[00:28:56] <witnit> like i have to bump the card in two places before it recognizes without a timeout
[00:29:17] <witnit> micges_, may be the guy to ask :)
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[00:31:20] <dirty_d> is there a way to set a work offset with G10 L2 relative to another work offset rather than machine zero?
[00:32:00] <dirty_d> I have to use an edge finder to locate the workpiece, so if machining multiple peices, the other offsets would be relative to that first one.
[00:32:01] <_methods> G10 L2 P1/2/3/4, etc.
[00:32:40] <dirty_d> right right, but as far as i know you can only give it coordinates relative to machine zero
[00:33:00] <dirty_d> like G10 L2 P2 X5 Y0 Z0
[00:33:09] <_methods> yeah
[00:33:22] <dirty_d> that would set the second work offset 5 units down the x axis from machine zero
[00:33:24] <_methods> oh you want it to be relative to say g54
[00:33:27] <_methods> or g55
[00:33:34] <dirty_d> where i actually need to set the second offset 5 units down from the first work offset
[00:33:38] <dirty_d> right
[00:33:59] <dirty_d> oh wait... i think i can just use G10 L20
[00:34:19] <dirty_d> thats relative to the current position, not machine zero
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[00:36:03] <witnit> wouldnt that just be like, coming off of a stored variable?
[00:36:07] <_methods> and why do you want to do this?
[00:37:19] <_methods> why not just set the other work piece offsets normally?
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[00:42:14] <witnit> im very unfamiliar with g-code, is there a way to have gcode handle a portion of automation while its reading the rest of the file line for line? like a canned cycle that runs in the background while the rest of the machine reads top down information?
[00:42:16] <dirty_d> whats normally?
[00:42:37] <_methods> you can call sub routines
[00:42:41] <_methods> and macros
[00:42:58] <_methods> and "normally" is moving to each work piece and setting it's position
[00:43:00] <_methods> lol
[00:43:09] <witnit> so the timers in the subroutines will not have to be waited for while the machine is handling the other lines?
[00:43:15] <dirty_d> well like its not separate pieces
[00:43:30] <_methods> oh no you can't do that witnit
[00:43:35] <_methods> it's sequential
[00:43:35] <dirty_d> it could be a 6" long piece of barstock that can have 4 of the same piece machines out of it
[00:43:36] <witnit> thx,
[00:44:04] <dirty_d> just need to locate once, then the other 3 pieces are relative to the first
[00:44:17] <_methods> dirty_d: if tha's the case and you know how far you want to offset just put the numbers in manually
[00:44:28] <dirty_d> yea
[00:44:32] <dirty_d> with L20 not L2
[00:44:36] <_methods> yea
[00:44:42] <witnit> what im looking to do, without ladder logic is, " if DIN-00 = true then Dout-02" this should run all the time while the rest of code is working
[00:44:48] <witnit> I guess i must learn ladder logic :)
[00:45:06] <dirty_d> im working on a high level machining language that "compiles" to gcode
[00:45:19] <dirty_d> its not really a language though, just a node.js module
[00:46:04] <dirty_d> i feel like its easier to machine a simple part like this than to model it, then do cam
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[00:48:55] <witnit> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/coordinates.html#_fixture_offsets_g54_g59_3
[00:48:59] <witnit> that should do it right?
[00:49:27] <witnit> its just that your bar.... is your fixture..
[00:50:12] <witnit> sorry if this is useless hahahah i really know nothing about G
[00:50:25] <dirty_d> yea, thats what i was looking at
[00:50:35] <_methods> that's what he's doing he's just setting those dimensions with g10
[00:50:38] <Cromaglious> hmmm it homes Z, then backs away then moves right back up and trips the home/limit switch...
[00:51:03] <witnit> removing backlash from your home sequence Cromaglious
[00:51:04] <witnit> ?
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[00:52:04] <Cromaglious> it homes then limits... then I have to either override limit and move it down out of the way...
[00:52:24] <Cromaglious> or manually turn the steep to back it down a bit
[00:52:34] <dirty_d> so since the G54 - G59.3 are modal, how do you clear whatever is active back to the machine coordinate system?
[00:52:51] <_methods> what do you mean clear it?
[00:53:08] <dirty_d> i read that sometimes G54 is just set to zero, so you can just switch to that, but what if you dont wanna do it like that
[00:53:36] <_methods> i think linuxcnc defaults to set G53 to G54
[00:54:06] <_methods> but not sure
[00:54:09] <dirty_d> G53 isnt modal
[00:54:16] <_methods> no
[00:54:20] <_methods> g53 is machine
[00:55:15] <_methods> you can set g54 to whatever you want
[00:55:32] <_methods> it doesn't have to be zero
[00:56:42] <dirty_d> yea, i just find it wierd that when the machine turns on and none of the G54 - 59.3 codes are active, then you set one, you cant unset it?
[00:56:58] <_methods> sure you can change it whenever you want
[00:57:05] <dirty_d> like once you set G54, from then on out one of them has to be active?
[00:57:19] <dirty_d> you can change it, but you cant deactivate it
[00:57:27] <andypugh> witnit: You can do if this then that in HAL
[00:58:13] <_methods> yeah some work coordinate has to be active
[00:58:14] <andypugh> Can you be a bit clearer on what you need?
[00:58:32] <dirty_d> ok
[00:59:11] <andypugh> witnit: You said “if din-00 = true then dour-02”. Is that any more difficult than just wiring dout2 to din1 ?
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[00:59:27] <witnit> andypugh, read procy sensor, if part, open gate, hold a moment close gate, debur, open second gate, drill part, release part
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[00:59:35] <micges> witnit: what epp port do you have?
[00:59:58] <witnit> i want the debur to finish before the drill starts , so i do not lose cycletime
[01:00:51] <witnit> micges, its an addon card i will lspci asap
[01:01:02] <micges> ok
[01:01:06] <andypugh> Maybe a custom HAL component with a state machine?
[01:01:34] <andypugh> But, why not do it as a G-code routine?
[01:01:35] <witnit> andypugh, im not sure what route is best, i thougt i could do it with some kind of g code standalone program, or learn some ladder logic
[01:01:50] <witnit> i dont know much about gcode or ladder
[01:02:05] <andypugh> Well, it is more important to learn G-code than ladder :-)
[01:02:26] <witnit> I essentially need to have one part of the machine run a small gcode and then another below
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[01:03:11] <andypugh> Hmm, well, G-code is rather single-threaded.
[01:06:33] <zeeshan> man
[01:06:44] <zeeshan> mastercam mill is a hell of a lot better at spitting out code
[01:06:47] <zeeshan> than their lathe version
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[01:08:58] <Cromaglious> X home location is 0, limit/home switch is at -0.1, I do machine->home->X it goes towards x8 instead of X0
[01:09:24] <Cromaglious> direction is inverted in setup
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[01:19:14] <Tom_itx> zeeshan i've got spindle rpm now
[01:19:23] <zeeshan> :]]]
[01:19:35] <Tom_itx> waiting on a relay to test reverse
[01:19:55] <Tom_itx> i need to adjust the scale a bit once i get the motor back on the mill
[01:25:27] <Tom_itx> seems it needs ~.4v to keep the motor turning
[01:25:44] <Tom_itx> i'll test the min rpm once i get it back on the mill
[01:25:49] <zeeshan> The LabMaster 10-100Zi is immediately available with a list price starting at EUR 868,000
[01:25:51] <zeeshan> holy shit
[01:25:57] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3w_EWgGQuk&feature=youtu.be
[01:26:00] <zeeshan> this scope is a million $
[01:26:01] <zeeshan> haha
[01:26:06] <Tom_itx> did you order 2?
[01:26:10] <zeeshan> why 2
[01:26:13] <zeeshan> only need 10 of em
[01:26:18] <zeeshan> to live a lifetime of happiness!
[01:26:22] <Tom_itx> in case you drop one
[01:26:31] <zeeshan> lol
[01:26:49] <Tom_itx> thanks again for the board... it seems like it might work out
[01:27:01] <zeeshan> no prob man
[01:27:03] <Tom_itx> once i got the isolation board for the driver
[01:27:03] <zeeshan> it wasn't doing me any good here
[01:27:10] <zeeshan> it literally sat in a drawer for 5 months
[01:27:14] <zeeshan> i lied
[01:27:15] <zeeshan> even longer
[01:27:17] <zeeshan> a year
[01:27:20] <zeeshan> i got it for the lathe conversion
[01:27:34] <Tom_itx> oh
[01:27:42] <zeeshan> .4v deadband
[01:27:45] <zeeshan> sounds not too bad
[01:27:57] <Tom_itx> once i get the relays, i'll test the switching time of them on the LA
[01:28:11] <Tom_itx> make sure the inhibit kicks before the fwd/rev one
[01:28:22] <Tom_itx> hopefully the relays will hold up
[01:28:23] <andypugh> If you need a 100GHz scope then that might be a reasonable price
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[01:28:39] <zeeshan> hi andypugh
[01:28:48] <zeeshan> im a cnc miller too now!
[01:28:53] <andypugh> :-)
[01:29:37] <Tom_itx> i wonder if it would be bad to mount this driver inside my control instead of beside the sherline motor where it was originally
[01:29:47] <zeeshan> noise is overrated!
[01:29:59] <PCW> ~3.5 ps risetime
[01:30:06] <Tom_itx> you have your drivers in the control..
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[01:32:17] <zeeshan> honestly
[01:32:27] <zeeshan> i ocassionally got a computer freeze
[01:32:39] <zeeshan> but since i added that mov
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[01:32:53] <zeeshan> i no longer have that issue
[01:32:58] <anarchos> well, semi-secessful on the metal mission :D
[01:33:06] <zeeshan> what did you get
[01:33:10] <Tom_itx> mov to what?
[01:33:14] <Tom_itx> main power?
[01:33:19] <zeeshan> mov to the servo brake soelnoid
[01:33:23] <Tom_itx> oh
[01:33:34] <anarchos> 3x5/8, 3 x 1/2 and 2x1"
[01:34:12] <anarchos> I was hoping for 3x2 or 3x3, but no dice.
[01:34:26] <zeeshan> steel?
[01:34:56] <anarchos> 6061
[01:35:01] <zeeshan> nice
[01:35:08] <zeeshan> delicious chunks of aluminum
[01:35:33] <anarchos> i called before and the jerk who answered told me they had minimum orders, but then i called again today and a different guy said no problems.
[01:36:07] <anarchos> i just got a foot of each.
[01:37:00] <zeeshan> lol
[01:37:02] <zeeshan> fuck those stupid companies
[01:37:06] <zeeshan> that do that minimum order bs
[01:37:25] <zeeshan> they dont seem to understand if you treat someone right
[01:37:31] <zeeshan> they might order a lot more stuff later on
[01:37:40] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: did the resin work out for you at all?
[01:37:48] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: stil waiting on my photoplot
[01:37:52] <zeeshan> er photomask
[01:37:53] <anarchos> the guy in the yard who cut it for me was awesome. old school squamish hick, smoke in his mouth the whole time. i was telling him about my cnc machine and he started going off about kids these days being lazy and can't even mill for themselves :P
[01:37:56] <Tom_itx> ok just eyeballing it with a timer, at S115 i get .41mv out and an eye count of about 45rpm
[01:38:24] <Tom_itx> that's about the minimum it will start turning at
[01:38:32] <malcom2073> "Back in my day, we miled uphill, both ways, with no hand cranks!
[01:38:43] <Tom_itx> i still do!
[01:39:17] <anarchos> i also got a little shop vac from Home Depot. Stainless, no frills. Only $32.
[01:39:21] <CaptHindsight> malcom2073: copper, bronze or iron? :)
[01:39:46] <anarchos> No hepa filters or any BS like that, and i'm pretty sure i can just use some old t-shirts and some electrical tape as a replacement filter
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[01:42:51] <malcom2073> CaptHindsight: I don't know enough to actually respond to that :P
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[01:46:32] <dirty_d> is this "G10 L2 P2 X#5221+5" doing what I think its doing? setting the G55 X offset to the G54 X offset + 5?
[01:47:43] <_methods> if #5221 is the value for g54 x
[01:47:56] <dirty_d> oops, error
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[01:48:04] <_methods> that should do that i guess
[01:48:12] <dirty_d> bad cahracter '+'
[01:49:07] <dirty_d> holy crap it worked
[01:49:14] <dirty_d> G10 L2 P2 X[#5221+5]
[01:50:37] <Tom_itx> i think to get this to follow the rpm more closely i would need pid
[01:50:55] <Tom_itx> it's not too bad as it is
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[01:51:17] <Tom_itx> min rpm seems to be around 100
[01:51:39] <Tom_itx> but that's no load
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[01:54:23] <witnit> thats a space station
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[02:09:19] <_methods> oh snap
[02:09:37] <_methods> free magnetic parts holder at HF this wknd
[02:10:04] <_methods> free box cutter and free led worklight flashlight
[02:10:18] <Jymmm> _methods: one coupon per person, per day
[02:10:22] <_methods> yeah
[02:10:24] <Tom_itx> you can have mine
[02:10:35] <_methods> i love those magnetic trays
[02:10:42] <_methods> i have them stuck all over my garage lol
[02:11:26] <_methods> some poor bastards are going to have to go watch 50 shades of grey this wknd
[02:11:39] <_methods> i'll be draggin my wife to HF to get a 2nd free magnetic tray lol
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[02:16:46] <Jymmm> you drag her to HF, she drags you to 50 Shades....
[02:17:44] <Jymmm> _methods: Just make sure she doens't find the free rope coupon =)
[02:19:00] <Tom_itx> does G33.1 take care of resetting the encoder index pulse?
[02:19:36] <Tom_itx> i was testing the index channel on my encoder and noticed i was only gettnig one pulse from it.. reading i learned i need to reset it each trigger
[02:19:58] <Tom_itx> that brought up the q above
[02:22:43] <_methods> hahaha
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[02:32:42] <PetefromTn_> Ya know I am NOT a diet soda kind of guy....most of the stuff tastes like shit to me but this Sprite zero is really good!
[02:33:18] <PetefromTn_> Oh and I am drinking it while working on the CNC so that is the CNC content of my comments LOL
[02:34:49] <unfy> sprite zero can be okay. sierra mist can be okay. i tend to mix half diet and half normal. reduces calorie stuff, increases all those tasty and must be healthy chemicals, and usually comes out sweeter.
[02:35:32] <unfy> and food + shop is usually a nono :P
[02:35:52] <PetefromTn_> I really was surprised how much it tastes like original sprite
[02:35:56] <andypugh> My non-beer drink of choice in the pub is a pint of coke with a pineapple mixer emptied in to it.
[02:36:09] <PetefromTn_> Ooh that sounds good
[02:36:20] <andypugh> It looks like a really bad pint of Mild, but tastes a lot better than coke.
[02:36:24] <PetefromTn_> I like a Roy Rogers from back when I was a kid LOL
[02:36:44] <unfy> citruss water and sweetener *should* be hard to mess up
[02:37:09] <_methods> iced tea and lemonade
[02:37:12] <_methods> mmmmm
[02:37:47] <unfy> i try go with coffee most of the time (and usually decaf these days) - but for a cold drink ? water or some random soda/cola ._.
[02:38:06] <unfy> i canz pelz
[02:38:09] <unfy> spelz ?
[02:38:12] <PetefromTn_> jeez it has been chilly here today and it REALLY SUCKS!! I hate the damn cold LOL
[02:38:17] <_methods> i wish i could get lemon fanta over here
[02:38:28] <Jymmm> watermelon fanta!!!
[02:38:31] <_methods> one thing i miss from europe
[02:38:38] <Jymmm> Only available in japan
[02:38:42] <PetefromTn_> my wife likes fanta
[02:38:47] <PetefromTn_> I like the orange
[02:38:51] <_methods> they don't have shit here in the US
[02:39:07] <Jymmm> You can get it at the Coca Cola Museum
[02:39:13] <unfy> can.... can we get a smart phone that isn't measured like a sheet of plywood ? please ? ._.
[02:39:14] <_methods> lemon fanta?
[02:39:16] <PetefromTn_> I think it would be really cool to visit Japan
[02:39:41] <unfy> i lived in jp as a kid. it'd be interesting to visit as an adult
[02:39:44] <unfy> (navy brat)
[02:39:51] <_methods> yakuska?
[02:39:58] <unfy> indeed
[02:40:04] <PetefromTn_> I was in the US Coast Guard for almost six years..
[02:40:15] <_methods> i was stuck in adak
[02:40:27] <PetefromTn_> closest I got was Guam..
[02:40:31] <PetefromTn_> I have been to adak!
[02:40:38] <PetefromTn_> and schemya
[02:40:40] <_methods> yeah
[02:40:46] <_methods> nothing there
[02:40:46] <PetefromTn_> and flew all along the aleutian chain
[02:40:53] <PetefromTn_> volcanoes?
[02:40:58] <_methods> yeah plenty of them
[02:41:05] <_methods> adak is right in the middle of 3 of them
[02:41:07] <PetefromTn_> It's not the end of the world.....but you can see it from there...
[02:41:10] <unfy> don't think i've been anywhere near alaska (outside of vancouver / seattle)
[02:41:10] <_methods> sitka dora
[02:41:26] <_methods> can't remember the 3rd one
[02:41:30] <PetefromTn_> Anchorage is kind of a neat town...
[02:41:46] <_methods> we were stationed in adak for 3 years
[02:41:53] <PetefromTn_> Can't imagine..
[02:41:56] <_methods> we got off the plane in anchorage after 3 years on adak
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[02:42:07] <PetefromTn_> I froze my ass off and I was only there for two weeks or so..
[02:42:08] <_methods> and we all looked like a bunch of escaped lunatics
[02:42:10] <PetefromTn_> each time..
[02:42:11] <_methods> smelling the trees
[02:42:24] <_methods> there are no trees on adak
[02:42:31] <PetefromTn_> yup
[02:42:41] <_methods> so everything smells like a pine tree when you get off the island lol
[02:42:46] <PetefromTn_> I guess you saw the monument then heh
[02:42:53] <_methods> which one?
[02:43:03] <PetefromTn_> I have a photo of it somewhere.
[02:43:14] <PetefromTn_> I snapped it from the window of the HC130
[02:43:26] <_methods> how'd you end up in adak?
[02:43:48] <PetefromTn_> US Coast Guard navigator.
[02:43:51] <_methods> ahhh
[02:43:59] <_methods> i was like wtf is hc 130
[02:44:04] <_methods> i been on plenty of c 130'
[02:44:06] <_methods> mc130
[02:44:10] <_methods> uc130
[02:44:15] <_methods> never hc130 lol
[02:44:18] <PetefromTn_> HC130 is Coast Guard version.
[02:44:22] <_methods> yeah
[02:45:03] <PetefromTn_> I was an aviation electronics technician on the ground and Navigator/radio in flight unless something went wrong.
[02:45:19] <_methods> cool
[02:45:24] <PetefromTn_> which is kinda funny since I don't remember shit about electronics now...
[02:45:27] <_methods> i was a bullet catcher
[02:45:43] <PetefromTn_> dafuq?
[02:45:47] <_methods> infantry
[02:45:55] <PetefromTn_> did ya catch any?
[02:45:59] <_methods> no lol
[02:46:11] <PetefromTn_> how old are you man?
[02:46:17] <_methods> no enemy marksmanship badges for me
[02:46:18] <_methods> 42
[02:46:31] <PetefromTn_> Ok cool you are a year younger than I am.
[02:47:13] <Tom_itx> mere pups
[02:47:17] <_methods> hehe
[02:47:19] <_methods> old phart
[02:47:22] <Tom_itx> haha
[02:47:34] <_methods> speakin of pharts my dog just crop dusted me
[02:47:36] <Tom_itx> i'm not _that_ old
[02:47:46] <PetefromTn_> jeez thats always fun.
[02:48:06] <_methods> he likes to do it when i'm playin video games
[02:48:13] <Tom_itx> now where to mount all this crap
[02:49:42] <PetefromTn_> watching Mr. Peabody and Sherman on netflix. Kinda funny for a cartoon...
[02:50:26] <_methods> really?
[02:50:39] <PetefromTn_> yeah why?
[02:51:00] <PetefromTn_> I like Agimemnon...
[02:51:48] <PetefromTn_> there's an A in there somewhere hehe
[02:51:52] <zeeshan> PCW: a curious question -> if you short out the 5v supply gong to the encoders
[02:51:55] <zeeshan> will it blow up the 7i77?
[02:52:04] <zeeshan> by 5v i mean right from the encoder out
[02:52:10] <zeeshan> or is it on a resistor
[02:52:47] * zeeshan needs to know so i can adequately protected wires
[02:53:29] <fluffybitchx> yay! my X leadscrew is very close to straight.
[02:53:31] <_methods> one of these days i need to watch that house of cards
[02:55:03] <fluffybitchx> too tired tonight, and the gate at storage gets locked in an hour... will put it back together tomorrow.
[02:59:02] <zeeshan> fluffybitchx: where are you from?
[02:59:20] <fluffybitchx> far northern california
[02:59:37] <zeeshan> the other day you said it was 4am
[02:59:40] <zeeshan> :P
[02:59:43] <zeeshan> that threw me off
[02:59:44] <zeeshan> lol
[02:59:55] <zeeshan> cause it was like only the afternoon or somethin
[03:00:04] <fluffybitchx> I think I said that I work up at 4am...
[03:00:07] <fluffybitchx> woke up
[03:00:09] <zeeshan> o
[03:00:58] <fluffybitchx> I kinda remember that conversation. I said something like "4am here" in response to someone saying they woke up at a similar time.
[03:01:22] <zeeshan> ah! :P
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[03:03:08] <fluffybitchx> What do I search for to find aluminum boxes? I've always called them alarm boxes, but that doesn't seem to find anything.
[03:03:32] <fluffybitchx> blow any more drives? :P
[03:03:39] <zeeshan> nop
[03:03:46] <zeeshan> enclosure?
[03:03:49] <zeeshan> project box
[03:04:09] <zeeshan> whjat size
[03:04:10] <zeeshan> ?
[03:04:16] <zeeshan> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/BUD-INDUSTRIES-CU-124-/28-8641
[03:04:42] <fluffybitchx> about 18" square by 6" deep, reasonably heavy gauge.
[03:04:56] <zeeshan> that'll be expensive
[03:05:13] <Tom_itx> that's about what this one is
[03:05:22] <Tom_itx> i got off ebay for real cheap
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[03:05:36] <fluffybitchx> what was it titled, so I can search for similar items?
[03:05:58] <Tom_itx> rittal AE 1380
[03:06:04] <fluffybitchx> if I can't find one cheap, I'll head to the scrapyard and pick up some angle and plate, and dig out my air pop rivetter.
[03:07:20] <Tom_itx> it cost me more to ship it than i paid for it
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[03:07:53] <fluffybitchx> heh
[03:08:19] <fluffybitchx> I need something to put all my electronics in... right now the drivers are sitting on top of the lathe spindle motor, and the breakout and power supply on a piece of 2x8 stuck next to it.
[03:08:25] <Tom_itx> iirc ~50-75 bux
[03:08:27] <Tom_itx> total
[03:09:40] <fluffybitchx> hrmm, I was hoping for aluminum, so it's both easier to pop holes in and makes a good heatsink.
[03:10:02] <Tom_itx> probably cost more
[03:10:09] <zeeshan> you should see the fans
[03:10:13] <zeeshan> i have in my steel enclosures
[03:10:17] <zeeshan> it sounds like a tornado in there
[03:10:19] <_methods> old computer cases work good too
[03:10:20] <fluffybitchx> I'm hoping for fanless.
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[03:11:16] <fluffybitchx> at least during testing, with no heatsinking at all, nothing is running too hot to comfortably hold, except for the bleeder resistor. I figure if everything is mounted to an aluminum box, I shouldn't need fans.
[03:13:14] <fluffybitchx> the hottest part is the bridge rectifier, at about 100F. drivers are maybe 80F during heavy testing, when I was using the axis test to try to make it lose steps.
[03:13:37] <zeeshan> bhahahahaha
[03:13:38] <Cromaglious> using spring clamps to hold all my home switches in place
[03:13:40] <zeeshan> this is HALARIOUS
[03:13:44] <zeeshan> you guys gotta see this
[03:13:57] <fluffybitchx> Cromaglious: I'm very tempted to use rare earth magnets on mine.
[03:15:47] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/KBNpCD2.png
[03:15:50] <zeeshan> i tried to print this out
[03:15:52] <zeeshan> lol
[03:15:55] <zeeshan> guess what my printer gave me?
[03:16:33] <Tom_itx> i'm not gonna print it to find out
[03:16:39] <zeeshan> don't worry
[03:16:46] <zeeshan> even if you did
[03:16:47] <fluffybitchx> no matter how much I cross my eyes, there's no single-image random dot stereogram in there.
[03:16:55] <zeeshan> you'll realize it doesnt print anyything
[03:16:59] <zeeshan> cause one of those dots is .001"
[03:17:00] <zeeshan> haha
[03:17:04] <zeeshan> i guess my laser printer sux
[03:17:17] <zeeshan> unless i have my scale messed
[03:17:33] <fluffybitchx> 1000dpi isn't that odd.
[03:17:47] <fluffybitchx> note that if you're on windows, printing tends to be downscaled to 100dpi no matter what you do.
[03:17:59] <fluffybitchx> at least on old versions. I don't know if new ones have fixed this bit of idiocy.
[03:19:00] <Cromaglious> heh
[03:19:33] * zeeshan tries to print with 2400dpi
[03:19:58] <Rab> zeeshan, do it in PDF form.
[03:20:14] <Cromaglious> try making coffee cup silk screens at 150lpi screen using a 3d printer pumping rubber cement from a syringe
[03:22:21] <zeeshan> tiff made it work
[03:22:23] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: laser printer, what model?
[03:22:43] <CaptHindsight> yeah tiff for the win!
[03:23:25] <zeeshan> can you convert tiff to a gerber?
[03:23:26] <CaptHindsight> I have a few laser printers that print that for every background :)
[03:23:47] <CaptHindsight> aka trashed drum
[03:23:48] <zeeshan> http://www.photoplotstore.com/pages/photomasks.html
[03:23:56] <zeeshan> im waiting for these guys to ship me my photomask
[03:24:08] <zeeshan> er
[03:24:12] <zeeshan> photoplot
[03:24:17] <CaptHindsight> how much did the cost you?
[03:24:20] <zeeshan> i keep mixing those two terms
[03:24:22] <Cromaglious> I miss my 4p
[03:24:24] <CaptHindsight> the/they
[03:24:42] <zeeshan> 10"x10"
[03:24:42] <fluffybitchx> CaptHindsight: I've got a couple of those too. they're in my pile of stuff to take to the dump next time they have a free e-waste day.
[03:24:47] <zeeshan> cost me $150 shipped
[03:25:04] <zeeshan> seems a lot for something
[03:25:14] <zeeshan> that looks like a transperency sheet
[03:25:15] <CaptHindsight> bbl
[03:25:18] <zeeshan> luckily i wasn't paying fo rit :)
[03:26:29] <fluffybitchx> they charge a lot for e-waste here... last time I was there I think it was $0.31/lb... unless you wait for a free day, dumping things like laser printers is rather costly.
[03:31:19] <anarchos2> well that was fun, squared up my first block of aluminum, to near real dimention, just square, but the micrometer says i'm within 0.0002 on all corners :D
[03:31:30] <anarchos2> s/near/no
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[03:37:28] <PetefromTn_> Anybody ever seen this movie called Horns?
[03:38:06] <PetefromTn_> anarchos2 COngrats man
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[03:38:58] <fluffybitchx> never even heard of it.
[03:39:22] <PetefromTn_> its got Daniel Radcliffe in it.. On netfix
[03:40:05] <fluffybitchx> I've heard the name, but no idea who that is.
[03:40:18] <PetefromTn_> Harry Potter
[03:40:58] <fluffybitchx> never read the books nor watched the movies.
[03:43:07] <zeeshan> fluffybitchx is anti education
[03:43:18] <zeeshan> !
[03:43:18] <anarchos2> so if my block is 0.832" wide and i wanted to drill a hole in the centre with a 0.0625 bit, i could find the edge and then move X over half the block width (.416) + half the radius of the bit (0.03125), for a total of 0.44725"....right? :D
[03:43:39] <anarchos2> err, not half the radius, just the radius
[03:43:51] <anarchos2> half the diameter
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[03:44:01] <zeeshan> what are you finding the edge with?
[03:44:09] <anarchos2> eye ball ;)
[03:44:13] <zeeshan> no
[03:44:15] <zeeshan> with what tool
[03:44:25] <anarchos2> i don't have an edge finder yet
[03:44:26] <unfy> oculus orbis.
[03:44:28] <PetefromTn_> use a piece of paper
[03:44:30] <fluffybitchx> hrmm, can't even remember the last time I watched a movie. Someone dragged me to the star trek reboot, which I didn't much like. Yahsi Bati wasn't bad, if you like popular turkish comedies.
[03:44:37] <PetefromTn_> typically .003"
[03:44:41] <fluffybitchx> zeeshan: anti-education? huh?
[03:44:50] <zeeshan> you dont read books!
[03:45:10] <anarchos2> cool, thanks. but my math is right, eh? half the width + the radius of the bit = centre?
[03:45:16] <fluffybitchx> ... because I don't read pointless kids fiction books, I'm against reading or education?
[03:45:26] <zeeshan> fluffybitchx yes
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[03:46:20] <fluffybitchx> ...
[03:46:29] <zeeshan> im in troll mode
[03:46:31] <zeeshan> im marking tests
[03:46:34] <zeeshan> and it's making me insane
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[03:47:05] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, some laser printers use galvos?
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[03:48:35] <fluffybitchx> all the ones I've hard apart used rotating mirrors, but a galvo could work...
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[03:50:42] <tjtr33> a Ted talk in Chicago showed using camera tracking and galvos and bluray lasers to identify mosquitos that might be carrying malaria. then they shoot their wings off, like a laser fence around a building. wicked cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqKafI7Amd8
[03:52:49] <fluffybitchx> I read about that a while ago... sounded like a good idea. and if I want more about it, I'll read more about it, not watch a video!
[03:53:19] <tjtr33> fluffybitchx, i forgot you are anti video for decriptiosn, no prob. you know you gotta de-rate that bridge if it gets hot ( expect less current thru it )
[03:54:05] <tjtr33> put a fan on it
[03:54:28] <fluffybitchx> tjtr33: I suspect screwing it to a heatsink is what it needs.
[03:54:39] <tjtr33> yah that too
[03:54:42] <fluffybitchx> it's one of the square metal ones with a hole in the center, meant to be screwed to a heatsink...
[03:55:55] <anarchos2> is G90 absolute from home position, or absolute from G92 offset?
[03:56:15] <tjtr33> oh mine are 3 phase in dc out, on a big alim plate with 110v fans facing them ( but its 100vdc 150 amps each ) same idea applies
[03:56:57] <tjtr33> abso from the coordinate system in use now
[03:57:23] <fluffybitchx> mine's about 1" square, rated for 50A continuous, being used at <15A...
[03:57:29] <zeeshan> im either an asshole
[03:57:42] <zeeshan> or these students dont know what theyre doing
[03:58:14] <PetefromTn_> :O
[03:58:31] <tjtr33> PetefromTn_, do we get to pick which ^^^ :)
[03:58:40] <zeeshan> ive marked 3 tests so far
[03:58:49] <zeeshan> and theyve gotten 60%
[03:58:51] <zeeshan> and thats me being lenient
[03:58:52] <PetefromTn_> I didn't say a thing ;)
[03:59:01] <zeeshan> haha
[03:59:05] <fluffybitchx> those are not mututally exclusive.
[03:59:25] <pcw_home> "zeeshan PCW: a curious question"
[03:59:27] <pcw_home> No, the 5V encoder outputs are protected with PTCs
[03:59:28] <fluffybitchx> what class?
[04:02:25] * fluffybitchx likes polyfuses
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[04:08:44] <SpeedEvil> As long as you understand why.
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[04:09:09] <SpeedEvil> and their temperature variance and slow switcing and ...
[04:09:52] <fluffybitchx> I don't recall them being slower than a standard wire fuse... temperature variance, holding current, etc are just something you design around.
[04:10:30] <fluffybitchx> maybe slower than a fast-blow fuse, but not a regular fuse.
[04:10:31] <pcw_home> Mainly for PCB and wire protection so speed is not really an issue
[04:11:45] <zeeshan> okay thank you
[04:12:14] <fluffybitchx> now, if you're trying to protect semiconductors... I don't think they make a fuse fast enough. it seems that the best fuse you can get is the most expensive semi in your design. :)
[04:12:28] <SpeedEvil> fluffybitchx: well...
[04:12:56] <SpeedEvil> fluffybitchx: A MOSFET with the gate set at teh appropriate voltage to give the right 'knee' voltage with an adequate Vds rating works well.
[04:13:18] <SpeedEvil> This limits current - and you can then turn it off before the FET explodes.
[04:13:29] <SpeedEvil> 'knee' current
[04:15:03] * fluffybitchx suspect some form of the miller effect would blow that in case of a sudden short
[04:15:21] <zeeshan> WHY dmanit why
[04:15:27] <SpeedEvil> yes - your gate voltage source has to be stif and able to cope with the charge injection from a voltage spike
[04:15:32] <zeeshan> why do they think that effiency drops the shaft speed
[04:15:33] <pcw_home> Ive noticed have normally on bipolar transistors now for current sources
[04:15:35] <fluffybitchx> zeeshan: what class?
[04:15:36] <zeeshan> in a gear box!
[04:15:56] <zeeshan> "mechanical design"
[04:16:28] <fluffybitchx> hrmm. efficiency won't affect the ratio of the gearbox at all, but it will put more drag on the prime mover, lowering its speed...
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[04:16:29] <SpeedEvil> zeeshan: Well - if theinput driver isn't magic - it probably does a bit.
[04:16:33] <SpeedEvil> But yes.
[04:16:46] <zeeshan> if you have like a gear A [40 pitch diameter] @ 3000 RPM and it meshes with gear B [20" pitch diameter] and effiency between gears is 80%
[04:16:55] <zeeshan> they keep putting that the speed is not 1500 rpm
[04:17:09] <zeeshan> SpeedEvil: huh
[04:17:28] <SpeedEvil> and yes - not that.
[04:17:31] <fluffybitchx> wouldn't that be 6000? :)
[04:17:43] <zeeshan> sorry 6000
[04:17:58] * fluffybitchx gets out the red marker and looks at zeeshan
[04:18:02] <zeeshan> they mupltiply it by 6000*.8
[04:18:22] <fluffybitchx> yeah... that's not how it works.
[04:18:36] <zeeshan> it jus tmaks a mess for the rest of the test
[04:18:44] <zeeshan> cause they are multiple part questions
[04:18:51] <zeeshan> so you have to try to follow the mistakes through out
[04:18:59] <fluffybitchx> I have a CVT gearbox... efficiency probably does weird things in it. :P
[04:19:55] <zeeshan> prolly chjanges with fluid temp
[04:19:55] <zeeshan> :P
[04:20:29] <fluffybitchx> I got it at a yard sale for $1... it's about 4" cube. input and output are both flat plates with thrust bearings, while adjustment is a plate with a rotating plate of ball bearings, that can be moved up and down.
[04:20:52] <fluffybitchx> someone broke the adjustment mechanism, so for now it randomly drifts ratios and ignores the knob on top.
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[04:21:10] <fluffybitchx> when I find a use for it, I'll fix it.
[04:21:43] <SpeedEvil> Nice.
[04:21:47] <fluffybitchx> but still, even being a cvt, it has a fixed input-output ratio at any given setting.
[04:22:31] <fluffybitchx> it works on friction, so if you screw up it'll slip, but if you don't overload it, it has a fixed ratio, with efficiency not factoring into it. :)
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[04:23:26] <zeeshan> cvt are cool
[04:23:56] <fluffybitchx> I have a design rattling around my head for a roller chain CVT... one of these days I should build a prototype.
[04:25:39] <fluffybitchx> roller chain isn't trivial, since it's very positively aligned, no friction or continuous positioning.
[04:28:44] <SpeedEvil> you mean like a derailure (sp?)
[04:29:02] <fluffybitchx> but that's not continuously variable. :)
[04:29:16] <SpeedEvil> that depends if you 'dither' between gears :)
[04:29:28] <roycroft> derailleur
[04:29:36] <SpeedEvil> Close enough.
[04:29:38] <roycroft> it's french :)
[04:29:38] <SpeedEvil> :)
[04:29:52] <fluffybitchx> lol. with a big flywheel and a spring dampener, I guess you could do that.
[04:45:44] <fluffybitchx> anyone have a mt3 bullnose center they want to sell?
[04:45:59] <fluffybitchx> live
[04:56:49] <anarchos2> made half a thing :D. http://i.imgur.com/gux51GO.jpg
[04:57:00] <anarchos2> just need to find a 1mm drill bit to finish it off
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[07:40:03] <Crom_> wow homing is a PITA!!
[07:42:17] <Crom_> I'm going to try to set all home + min Limit on pin 10, and max limit on pin 11 and get some kind of index on A using pin 12
[07:44:17] <Crom_> using spring clamps to hold the switches in place to figure everything out, then I'mm start making mounts and drill holes
[07:45:38] <Crom_> home all stopped working, so I have to figure that out tomorrow
[07:48:26] <Crom_> hmmmm maybe I should home everything on pin 10 and limit everything on 11
[07:50:55] <witnit> you'll get it :)
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[07:59:50] <Crom_> I want a free pin for A
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[08:01:01] <Deejay> moin
[08:01:12] <Crom_> morning
[08:01:40] <Crom_> I have a delrin cutting board ready to used to make a probe
[08:03:02] <Crom_> I have ball nose end mills 1/8" and 1/4" and a 1/4" ER11 collet on order
[08:06:22] <archivist> add another parallel port for more IO
[08:07:41] <Crom_> I have a dual port LPT PCI board in the computer room... I don't have room in the case. It's a Mini-box.com
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[08:09:32] <Crom_> hmm will usb to parallel work for inputs?
[08:09:52] <archivist> likely NO
[08:10:26] <Crom_> as a second port
[08:10:32] <archivist> usb has high latency so unsuited to any realtime
[08:11:39] <Crom_> coolant, air, driving a relay board it should be ok on off stuff, nothing timing critical
[08:12:01] <Swapper> Crom_: https://emc2arduino.wordpress.com/tag/hal2arduino/
[08:12:28] <Crom_> that sounds like a better idea
[08:12:46] <Swapper> Crom_: Supports limits and stuff
[08:13:24] <Crom_> limits I'd want on the hardware lpt port
[08:13:53] <Swapper> yea proly the best but its quite "realtime" for a USB connection
[08:14:00] <Swapper> so it supports it
[08:14:12] <Swapper> but better to use for noncritical stuff
[08:14:27] <Swapper> like you said, coolant, air, and such
[08:15:46] <Crom_> https://emc2arduino.wordpress.com/2013/12/25/hal2arduino-0-5-released/
[08:16:54] <Crom_> hehe Tweet whan complete
[08:17:38] <Swapper> even support Quadrature encoders for precise position control.
[08:17:57] <Swapper> think im going to build my feed-override pendant on that
[08:18:10] <Crom_> for me it would be sms msg then ripple the led buttons on the front of the case
[08:18:56] <Crom_> gotta find the linuxcnc x y output that I can grab with a script and update the LED screen on the case
[08:21:09] <Crom_> hmm 20x2, I could do X,Y,Z,A 6 chars 5 digits 1 decimal place
[08:22:06] <Crom_> X 1.23456 Y 2.34567
[08:22:24] <Crom_> hmm 20x2, I could do X,Y,Z,A 7 chars 6 digits 1 decimal place
[08:23:38] <Crom_> X 10.3456 Y-14.4567
[08:29:05] <Crom_> linuxcncrsh wooo nice
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[10:17:38] <miss0r> Hello guys. I am looking for a ballnut with an outside trapezodial threading to fit into an existing mill. I have seen a picture of it somewhere, but I have no idea what it is called or where to look, do you guys have an idea?
[10:19:03] <SpeedEvil> you mean it fits in an inside thread?
[10:19:56] <miss0r> well, the end of it does.
[10:20:33] <miss0r> looks like this: only with trapezoidal thread on the outsude and a ballnut on the inside: http://img.weiku.com/a/003/426/High_precision_stainless_steel_Trapezoidal_screw_5342_1.jpg
[10:23:15] <SpeedEvil> That sounds custom, and reassuringly expensive.
[10:23:28] <miss0r> like this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ballscrew-Ballnut-Thread-Dia-25mm-Pitch-5mm-Hiwin-/181157033635?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a2dccf6a3 only with trapezodial thread on the outside
[10:23:58] <miss0r> perhaps it is. It would just make my life easyer :)
[10:24:21] <SpeedEvil> i don't uppose there is enough thickness that you can sleeve an existing ballnut and thread the sleeve?
[10:25:17] <miss0r> I have look at that, I am going to be going danger close to moving parts then :)
[10:27:18] <miss0r> i'll probally end up doing the some machining to make it fit, but it would just be lovely with a bolt-on job for once
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[11:36:53] <jthornton> logger[mah], log
[11:36:53] <logger[mah]> jthornton: Log stored at http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc/2015-02-13.html
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[13:37:48] <_methods> anyone know when intel is supposed to release the quad core 5th gen mobile processors?
[13:43:22] <_methods> damn only thing i can find is a press picture that says mid2015
[13:45:44] <XXCoder> hm http://www.zapandgocharger.com/
[13:45:52] <XXCoder> wonder how realistic this is
[13:46:33] <_methods> didn't that guy get in big trouble for lying about that?
[13:47:13] <SpeedEvil> huge and stupid
[13:48:52] <SpeedEvil> Oh - I misread
[13:49:27] <XXCoder> from what I read on intengo, few didnt get any product
[13:49:39] <XXCoder> unknown on people who didnt post
[13:50:10] <SpeedEvil> Note that it will only charge at the normal rate the device
[13:50:17] <SpeedEvil> even if it takes 5m to laod that charge
[13:50:19] <XXCoder> yeah
[13:50:34] <cpresser> can somebody point to to the hal-value for the soft-limits?
[13:50:45] <XXCoder> its not bad though, charge 5 min at say reserant and keep charging phone while long drive
[13:50:52] <XXCoder> but then car has cig charger
[13:51:05] <cpresser> or tell me how i could build a soft-limit feature which can be configured during runtime?
[13:51:31] <XXCoder> benefits show up at wildress trips, but then theres battery or solar
[13:51:38] <XXCoder> I has solar charger its pretty cool
[13:51:49] <XXCoder> no battery
[13:52:30] <XXCoder> oops gonna run, work
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[14:24:31] * JT-Shop has so many projects in the works I don't know which one to do :(
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[14:25:19] <malcom2073> Heh
[14:25:46] <malcom2073> You know it's bad when you have many projects, you wind up spending your free time thinking about which project to do, and not actually doing any of them
[14:26:09] <archivist> have I got all the parts to start project X, no, rinse repeat
[14:26:36] <_methods> heheh
[14:26:46] <_methods> i keep all mine in plastic see through bins
[14:27:02] <_methods> that way i can cycle through them and see how much i have not achieved
[14:27:33] <archivist> projects by their nature cannot fit in sensible sized bins :)
[14:27:53] <_methods> my little projects
[14:28:00] <_methods> electronic projects
[14:28:32] <_methods> obviously full scaled projects are mocking me at full scale all the time
[14:28:55] <_methods> unbinned for the world to see
[14:29:05] <_methods> and my wife to yell at me about
[14:29:25] <archivist> insufficient funds error at project start
[14:29:32] <_methods> that's a common issue
[14:29:37] <_methods> or chinese time
[14:29:49] <malcom2073> Go the govt. route. Start the project on a slim budget
[14:29:58] <malcom2073> then expand from there, taking a little at a time
[14:30:10] <_methods> it's good though sometimes because it gives me time to solve the stuff i didn't figure out before i got the parts i needed lol
[14:30:34] <JT-Shop> project #1 get a fire going... done
[14:30:54] <_methods> meh off i go, damn work
[14:31:10] <malcom2073> I was going to work today.
[14:31:16] <malcom2073> But then I had a server failure at home :(
[14:31:17] <archivist> sit by fire ruminate and drink beer till nap time
[14:32:37] <cpresser> is it possible to initialize motion.analog-out-00 during startup?
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[15:05:38] <FinboySlick> archivist: I like the direction this project is taking. I shall invest a bag of marshmallow.
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[15:11:41] <archivist> :)
[15:12:06] <archivist> I have not had marshmallow for ages
[15:18:26] <FinboySlick> They're essential for Rice Crispy squares.
[15:18:44] <FinboySlick> And some would argue, hot chocolate too.
[15:20:47] <pcw_home> cpresser: I Haven't tried but it may be possible to set the soft limits as long as Linuxcnc not running G code (via the ini pins)
[15:23:16] <pcw_home> for example: setp ini.0.min_limit -45
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[15:52:12] <jdh> http://wilmington.craigslist.org/hvo/4889808751.html
[15:54:22] <archivist> that husband needs to put his foot down!
[15:56:43] <FinboySlick> What kind of lathe is that btw?
[15:57:27] <Jymmm> Heh, the lift strap is still on it =)
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[16:00:24] <archivist> could it be a leblond?
[16:01:31] <FinboySlick> Is the cross-slide really that wide? Seems like it wouldn't allow for much travel.
[16:05:29] <archivist> in style it is close to a monarch
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[16:08:49] <tjb1> JT-Shop: you cant use 12v fan
[16:09:10] <JT-Shop> lol, I wonder why they put that in the kit?
[16:09:36] <tjb1> which kit?
[16:09:57] <JT-Shop> http://www.reprapdiscount.com/home/29-ramps-14-ultimate-power-kit-1-wiring-set-capable-of-24v.html
[16:10:16] <JT-Shop> I did get the heat sinks on...
[16:10:26] <tjb1> well it is 12v capable so I dunno
[16:10:39] <tjb1> You can run dual power supplies or just get 24v fans
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[16:13:28] <archivist> jdh, have you fetched it yet :)
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[16:29:35] <__rob> anyone used the inventor HSM Face stuff ?
[16:29:44] <__rob> to taking a layer off the stock
[16:29:51] <__rob> for some reason the gcode is up in the air
[16:29:57] <__rob> so its not facing anything
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[16:30:27] <__rob> http://codepad.org/rfeZpi6r
[16:30:30] <__rob> thats the Gcode
[16:31:22] <archivist> did you touch off properly
[16:33:07] <__rob> how do you mean ?
[16:33:12] <__rob> I zeroed on the top of the stock for z
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[16:48:04] <tjtr33> PCW, you suggested plotting half functions. is that using hal scope, gnuplot, latency-plot or what? could you show an example. thx
[16:48:26] <tjtr33> hal functions :) haha
[16:49:42] <pcw_home> halscope
[16:50:34] <skunkworks> tjtr33, did you get a decent system runnig -rt?
[16:51:37] <tjtr33> 11652 nS overnite
[16:52:13] <tjtr33> skunkworks, have you plotted hal functions? some plot with nS rez? ( so not hal scope etc )
[16:52:40] <skunkworks> that was rtai?
[16:52:42] <tjtr33> oh and rtai, no luck with rt-preempt, sorry
[16:52:48] <skunkworks> ok
[16:54:27] <tjtr33> pcw_home, with halscope, ok, didnt think it'd show any nS, cuz granularity = thread rate, will try thx
[16:55:01] <pcw_home> all functions keep track of the CPU cycles they use
[16:55:14] <pcw_home> (so number is in CPU clocks)
[16:55:45] <pcw_home> so granularity is typically sub nS
[16:55:56] <tjtr33> wow, thats cool, thx, yeah it'd be < nS
[17:02:07] <pcw_home> example: http://ibin.co/1rX3Z8mW9pvk
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[17:06:03] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R3OrOKwnJQ Cooool..
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[17:07:23] <skunkworks> I know andy has a wahlhaupter - they look neat - he has used it for some odd things :)
[17:07:56] <PetefromTn_> I can see a LOT of uses for that in my shop LOL... I need to get a decent boring head anyway here for the Cinci..
[17:08:21] <tjtr33> pcw_home, thanks for the pic
[17:08:26] <PetefromTn_> damn things are unbelievably expensive
[17:09:43] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4fTythQj5s
[17:10:09] <PetefromTn_> yeah man that's dead sexy...LOL
[17:11:14] <skunkworks> he had a video where he bored a taper with spindle synced motion - can't find it
[17:11:18] <PetefromTn_> I must say Andy has got some SKILLS!
[17:12:23] <PetefromTn_> I hate milling cast iron tho.. nasty shit.
[17:12:43] <archivist> cast is wonderful!
[17:13:01] <PetefromTn_> wonderfully nasty and dirty gritty you mean...
[17:13:35] <archivist> nah shiny http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=pendulum+cast
[17:13:52] <archivist> centrifugally cast though
[17:14:10] <roycroft> cast iron is so soft and lustery
[17:16:04] <Connor> So, You hold the center part of the head and it automatically extends out?
[17:16:28] <PetefromTn_> we had to machine a TON of cast iron plates at the last shop I worked in for a short time and talk about a nasty mess to clean up after...
[17:16:38] <PetefromTn_> yeah basically
[17:17:06] <PetefromTn_> pretty kick ass things you can do with it...
[17:17:47] <PetefromTn_> sure beats the allen wrench dance for creeping up on a tight bore dimension I would think.
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[17:17:59] <Connor> no joke.
[17:18:45] <PetefromTn_> altho I did get some new ball end allen wrenches so I am looking for excuses to use em now hehe
[17:19:39] <PetefromTn_> theres a guy selling one like that on a facebook tool sale page and I am not sure it operates the same way but it is NTMB40 unfortunately
[17:20:48] <Connor> can it not be changed out ?
[17:21:58] <PetefromTn_> no idea
[17:22:25] <PetefromTn_> I am kinda watching to see what he gets offered for it. Probably will go higher than I want/can afford anyways LOL
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[17:34:29] <skunkworks> ah - because it wasn't a video https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5901688686374813281/5931740519697935986?pid=5931740519697935986&oid=108164504656404380542
[17:34:47] <skunkworks> https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5901688686374813281/5931801741237964866?pid=5931801741237964866&oid=108164504656404380542
[17:35:30] <PetefromTn_> hehe I like that tool presetter fixture..
[17:35:46] <tjtr33> pcw_home, the vertical is cpu cycles and the horz is time ? http://ibin.co/1rXDa8t1JZBt
[17:35:48] <skunkworks> it doubles as a ball screw support
[17:35:56] <PetefromTn_> hehe
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[17:36:32] <PetefromTn_> wait did he make that or did the machine come that way?
[17:36:41] <skunkworks> I think he made it
[17:36:49] <PetefromTn_> wow
[17:37:00] <PetefromTn_> It looks cast and like it came on the machine
[17:37:08] <ben5446> does anyone here know how to make custom M-Codes? I've found about 3 different ways to do it from a Google search but none of them work. Can a custom M-code be used to run a G-code subroutine?
[17:37:11] <PetefromTn_> unless it is just that little part he added at the top
[17:37:12] <skunkworks> I think he has a local company that will cast 1 off's for him
[17:37:41] <PetefromTn_> jeez he is a resourceful fellow isn't he LOL
[17:37:43] <pcw_home> tjtr33 yep
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[17:37:48] <tjtr33> thx!
[17:39:30] <tjtr33> the boring heads are nice, but note that it can make a bridgeport walk across the shop ( not built for imbalanced load )
[17:39:47] <PetefromTn_> sure
[17:40:09] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnt2DIcrWYk neato..
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[17:42:32] <skunkworks> ben5446, I think you would have to do a re-map..
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[17:43:48] <tjtr33> ben5446, yeah i agree, you can make any executable file an M1xx but i dunno how to make an executable Gcode file
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[17:44:04] <skunkworks> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/remap/structure.html
[17:44:41] <ben5446> i've tried the remap command. ive come close. it does not give me an unknown mcode command error anymore. but the M-code doesnt do anything.
[17:45:50] <ben5446> i guess since my M-code contains a G-code subroutine is why it does nothing
[17:48:16] <ben5446> its just that the example in section 3.3.1 here shows a G-code subroutine: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/remap/structure.html#_remappable_codes_a_id_sec_remap_remappable_codes_a
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[17:51:00] <skunkworks> So what is in your ngc file?
[17:51:49] <ben5446> o<M115> sub
[17:51:49] <ben5446> (debug, TEST WORKS)
[17:51:49] <ben5446> o<M115> endsub
[17:51:49] <ben5446> m2
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[17:53:02] <skunkworks> I don't think you can use M115
[17:53:27] <skunkworks> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/remap/structure.html#_currently_unallocated_m_codes_a_id_remap_unallocated_m_codes_a
[17:54:02] <skunkworks> a bunch up to M99 then skips to M199 to M999
[17:57:16] <ben5446> I went and changed everything to M15 and restarted linuxcnc, rehomed and ran M15 in MDI. Now I get an unknown M code used error.
[18:00:00] <skunkworks> what version of linuxcnc are you using?
[18:01:36] <ben5446> 2.5.4
[18:02:23] <skunkworks> remapping was implimented in 2.6....
[18:02:52] <ben5446> ahhh. ok then I guess I'm going to upgrade now. Thanks
[18:03:19] <JT-Shop> seems to be a lot of foo in the remap docs...
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[18:14:32] <PetefromTn_> foo?
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[18:17:55] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/remap/structure.html#_readahead_time_and_execution_time
[18:18:43] <jthornton> PetefromTn_, ^^
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[18:28:00] <PetefromTn_> Jeez do I ever hate the cold weather...
[18:31:23] <jdh> me too
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[18:33:49] <Crom_> morn all
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[18:51:21] <zeeshan> anyone heard of a 'ready to plot gerber data'
[18:51:30] <zeeshan> like 274-x, 274-d, dpf, f9000/mda
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[18:55:18] <Crom_> laser photo plot ala https://www.nanofab.utah.edu/uploads/pdfs/PhotoplotStorePricing.pdf ?
[18:56:30] <zeeshan> yea
[18:56:43] <Crom_> hymmm conversion using http://www.artwork.com/polygon/gerber/faq/xgbrvu_274d_274x.htm
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[18:58:23] <Crom_> well looks like there is utils to convert SVG to gbr
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[19:03:04] <Crom_> inkscape 0.48 doesn't do gbr
[19:04:43] <Rab> zeeshan, it's used for PCB artwork.
[19:04:52] <zeeshan> oh
[19:07:16] <FinboySlick> PetefromTn_: You going to redo all your machine handles now?
[19:08:10] <ben5446> skunkworks, thanks again. I upgraded to version 2.6.5 and now M-code remapping works just fine.
[19:08:22] <skunkworks> Great!
[19:09:11] <PetefromTn_> FinboySlick Well since there will basically NOT BE ANY I kinda doubt it LOL..
[19:09:50] <FinboySlick> PetefromTn_: Fully commited to CNC?
[19:09:54] <PetefromTn_> there is a big ball handle on the tailstock lock lever but that is already nice and round and almost polished...
[19:10:00] <PetefromTn_> Of course
[19:10:09] <PetefromTn_> is there anything else LOL?
[19:10:38] <PetefromTn_> actually that is one of the things I like about this lathe as it is KINDA somewhere between a manual and a CNC lathe.
[19:10:51] <FinboySlick> Hmmm, you could engrave symbols on half-inch balls and replace the keys of your keyboard.
[19:11:09] <PetefromTn_> the layout is basically the same as the 12x36 I used to have only much bigger...
[19:11:31] <PetefromTn_> so a lot of the stuff I used to do I will still be able to do only with CNC precision and control.
[19:12:20] <FinboySlick> PetefromTn_: When the video started I was sort of thinking that he should have made steps with that parting tools to rough the ball.
[19:12:25] <PetefromTn_> I have done some barrel work and driveshaft parts before on the old lathe and after I build some steady rest with ball bearing carriers I should be able to do that again on even longer parts..
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[19:12:47] <PetefromTn_> I have a couple shop built ball turning jigs here I made years ago
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[19:12:59] <PetefromTn_> but I had not seen anyone do it with a boring head like that before
[19:13:07] <PetefromTn_> which is nice for its micro adjustability
[19:13:39] <PetefromTn_> I usually just roughed it with the larger ball turning tool and then switched to the smaller yoke one I have and finished it.
[19:13:57] <PetefromTn_> but yeah he could have saved a little time with some roughing
[19:14:43] <zeeshan> cnc ftw!
[19:14:49] <PetefromTn_> ;)
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[19:15:08] <PetefromTn_> that ball would go a lot quicker and smoother with a CNC lathe huh...
[19:15:22] <zeeshan> all that fancy fixturing would be eliminated!
[19:15:23] <zeeshan> :P
[19:15:56] <PetefromTn_> yeah pretty much I can't wait...
[19:16:17] <Connor> zeeshan: Whas size is your lathe?
[19:16:27] <zeeshan> 12x36
[19:19:55] <Connor> Hmm.. Just found a 9x20 Central Machinery for $500.00 in Simpsonville.. Wherever that is...
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[19:21:14] <Tom_itx> Connor got the spindle pwm goin last night
[19:21:24] <Connor> Tom_itx: Nice!
[19:21:37] <zeeshan> both directions? :D
[19:21:51] <Tom_itx> waiting on a relay
[19:22:04] <Tom_itx> unless i can find the box i have one in
[19:22:44] <Crom_> mines a 10x44 1945 Sheldon 34" usable bed
[19:23:26] <Tom_itx> i'm gonna wire up the encoder this pm and see how close it follows the rpm
[19:23:40] <PetefromTn_> 14.5x40 FTW!!
[19:23:42] <Tom_itx> i may fiddle with PID a bit just to learn about it
[19:24:08] <Tom_itx> i've done PID but not with lcnc..
[19:24:09] <Crom_> Tom_itx, 12v relay in the car a bosch style will work?
[19:24:16] <Tom_itx> nope
[19:24:20] <Tom_itx> need 5v coil
[19:24:35] <PetefromTn_> just drew a bit more on the five axis stop I am needing to make only to find out I don't have a big enough hunk of 6061 to make it from LOL...
[19:24:40] <Tom_itx> this is a tiny relay just to trip a circuit
[19:25:01] <Tom_itx> if i knew for sure it wasn't riding above GND i'd use a mosfet
[19:25:07] <Tom_itx> but i think it is
[19:25:33] <bobo_> zeeshan: saw that Mikron has office in US --- Mikron Corp. Monroe 200 Main Street P.O. Box 268 Monroe, CT 06468 / USA Phone +1 203 261 31 00 Fax +1 203 268 47 52 mmo@mikron.com
[19:25:43] <zeeshan> bobo_: they are useless
[19:25:44] <Tom_itx> picked up some din rail fuse mounts today
[19:25:54] <Tom_itx> and a few other odds n ends ..
[19:27:28] <PetefromTn_> zeeshan LOL I am so pleased you got the machine working despite not getting much help from those guys..
[19:27:47] <Tom_itx> git r dun
[19:28:33] <zeeshan> :)
[19:28:44] <zeeshan> i'd like to finish wiring up the spindle encoder
[19:28:55] <zeeshan> and get this drawbar working properly
[19:29:03] <zeeshan> and it'd be really nice to get the gear box selector working
[19:29:16] <zeeshan> but they can all be done side by side while i can use the damn machine
[19:29:41] <Tom_itx> i think i'm gonna pull the spindle on mine so i can fiddle with it on the bench
[19:29:59] <Tom_itx> get the encoder etc all working good
[19:30:04] <bobo_> might be in compition with me . saw a mikron being used , background shot only , at a very high $ watch mfg. video
[19:31:31] <bobo_> high $ as in approx 10/year watches
[19:33:01] <zeeshan> did you see my gheto encoder
[19:33:03] <zeeshan> =D
[19:33:39] <zeeshan> http://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7290/16509907671_50873acd1c_h.jpg
[19:33:48] <bobo_> did not look very getto to me
[19:33:48] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: i wish you could remember that material
[19:33:58] <zeeshan> it's ghetto to me
[19:34:04] <zeeshan> cause its not enclosed like fancy encoders
[19:34:25] <PetefromTn_> what material?
[19:34:26] <bobo_> gold plate it then
[19:34:28] <zeeshan> i need to replace that material
[19:34:30] <zeeshan> the black one
[19:34:35] <zeeshan> with a wider and longer piece
[19:34:38] <Crom_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N77WZPadGdo
[19:34:41] <zeeshan> it keeps falling into the ball screw hole
[19:34:43] <zeeshan> and wrapping up
[19:34:47] <zeeshan> annoying as hell
[19:34:51] <Crom_> mounting raspberry pi mounts
[19:35:35] <PetefromTn_> OH yeah hang on lemme look at the remainder of the stuff I have here..
[19:35:53] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_:
[19:35:56] <zeeshan> does it look similar to this material?
[19:36:04] <zeeshan> its like almost cloth material
[19:36:09] <zeeshan> thats been dipped in plastic
[19:36:19] <zeeshan> like tarp
[19:36:25] <zeeshan> but not as hard tarp
[19:38:28] <bobo_> zeeshan that is at rear of mach. -----take it off for now ,but cover those 3 holes in the control box
[19:38:59] <zeeshan> bobo_: thanks for remdining me
[19:39:01] <zeeshan> i need to do that
[19:39:12] <Tom_itx> looks like neoprene coated nylon mesh
[19:39:12] <PetefromTn_> the stuff I used is like the stuff they put on stairs in commercial buildings
[19:39:26] <PetefromTn_> it is black ribbed rubbery plastic sheet
[19:39:34] <PetefromTn_> it comes in 27 inch wide widths
[19:39:37] <PetefromTn_> in a roll
[19:39:44] <Tom_itx> oh i know what that is
[19:39:49] <zeeshan> i think i know what youre talking about
[19:39:52] <PetefromTn_> it is really durable shit...
[19:39:56] <zeeshan> http://www.americanfloormats.com/content/product/large/Corrugated%20Vinyl%20Runner%20Mat%20closeup%20600.JPG
[19:40:09] <Tom_itx> get a roll of neoprene
[19:40:17] <bobo_> fabric how about semi truck trailer tarp material
[19:40:21] <Tom_itx> i have some 1/6" stuff i use for all sorts of things
[19:40:22] <zeeshan> from where tom
[19:40:23] <PetefromTn_> yeah it is something like that.. lemme snap a picture...
[19:40:35] <Tom_itx> zeeshan from my local supply :)
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[19:40:50] <zeeshan> http://photo.via-mobilis.com/34/4/181627-tractor_trailer-bed_with_tarp_covered_sides.jpg
[19:40:53] <Tom_itx> rubber belt & hose supply
[19:40:55] <zeeshan> ha, bobo that might work.
[19:41:10] <_methods> http://3dprint.com/44405/fabrisonic-am-milling-process
[19:41:35] <Tom_itx> yeah find one of those that's ripped, maybe they'd just give it to ya
[19:41:52] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/O3lAfon.jpg
[19:41:54] <zeeshan> free would be nice
[19:42:01] <zeeshan> oh yes PetefromTn_
[19:42:03] <PetefromTn_> that is the stuff I used
[19:42:05] <zeeshan> i think thats in the carpet section
[19:42:14] <PetefromTn_> I would give it to you but I am not sure how long it is..
[19:42:20] <PetefromTn_> or how much you need.
[19:42:21] <zeeshan> i think i have some in the basement
[19:42:24] <zeeshan> im using as carpet
[19:42:24] <zeeshan> rofl
[19:42:31] <Tom_itx> http://www.rubbersheetroll.com/nitrile-rubber-cloth-inserted.htm
[19:42:38] <PetefromTn_> well I think it is used to cover carpet in high traffic areas too..
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[19:42:57] <zeeshan> is it flexible enough in the cold?
[19:43:01] <zeeshan> or does it harden up
[19:43:02] <PetefromTn_> it is pretty cheap tho.
[19:43:17] <PetefromTn_> well since it is kinda rubbery it does get stiffer in the cold
[19:43:34] <_methods> that's what she said
[19:43:34] <zeeshan> ill just explain what im trying to do
[19:43:36] <PetefromTn_> but on the RF45 the Z axis was vertical of course so it just hung down from there..
[19:43:38] <zeeshan> one cover is the one i showed you
[19:43:43] <zeeshan> anyother cover is th accordian style cover
[19:43:51] <zeeshan> it used to have metal blades on it
[19:44:03] <zeeshan> which deflected chips, but they fell off cause they were glued on
[19:44:19] <bobo_> send it to ssi
[19:44:34] <zeeshan> http://www.maschinensucher.de/ma2/bilder/Mikron-WF-12-C/1071623-2.jpg
[19:44:37] <PetefromTn_> _methods LOL
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[19:44:43] <zeeshan> you can kinda see the black accordian cover behind the metal deflectors
[19:44:54] <_methods> hehe
[19:45:09] <zeeshan> so i was hoping to attach a plastic sheet in front of them
[19:45:11] <zeeshan> to do the same thing
[19:45:17] <PetefromTn_> I am sure I have a photo somewhere of the RF45 with that cover on it..
[19:45:36] <PetefromTn_> I gotta go get my kids from school. BRB..
[19:46:05] <PetefromTn_> all I can tell you is this stuff is really good and durable and easy to clean chips off of it...
[19:46:19] <PetefromTn_> hot chips hardly even affected it really..
[19:46:23] <marmite> good luck
[19:47:42] <bobo_> do you still have the stainless blades/deflectors ?
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[19:49:44] <zeeshan> i do
[19:49:45] <zeeshan> some of them
[19:50:01] <zeeshan> not all
[19:50:30] <_methods> hackaday..........wtf
[19:50:34] <_methods> http://hackaday.com/2015/02/13/ask-hackaday-are-conductive-inks-going-to-make-it/
[19:50:51] <_methods> it's like they think these 3d printer retards recently invented conductive ink
[19:51:17] <Tom_itx> heh
[19:51:27] <bobo_> the one's on the maho look fragle
[19:51:31] <zeeshan> http://www.resale.info/info-off-e.php?item=2658547&beginn=&seite=1&search=mikron&such=1&searchgroupid=&tldsearch=&order=6&auk=&gruppe=&yellow=&machine=%20MIKRON%20&make=&PHPSESSID=ev40m520r505i4budo7thm6js1
[19:51:33] <zeeshan> guess what i found
[19:51:33] <zeeshan> lol
[19:51:35] <zeeshan> searching for way covers
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[19:51:59] <CaptHindsight> they always act like they are the first to do anything
[19:52:08] <_methods> it's mind boggling
[19:52:31] <Tom_itx> CaptHindsight it makes it worth alot more too
[19:52:58] <CaptHindsight> I wonder if they will get any patent suit action after they raise enough
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[19:53:54] <Tom_itx> well most of them are using SD illegally
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[19:54:15] <Tom_itx> that's about a $3k license
[19:54:50] <_methods> you can tell all the brainpower left hackaday
[19:54:54] <CaptHindsight> http://hackaday.io/mike Mike Szczys Managing Editor of Hackaday.com, Orchestra Musician, uC Enthusiast Madison, WI
[19:55:43] <_methods> case closed lol
[19:55:53] <CaptHindsight> it's funny I've gone to some of the hackerspaces to listen to some of them speak on topics
[19:56:32] <_methods> i'm pretty sure anyone that had any brains from hackaday went to dangerousprototypes
[19:56:34] <CaptHindsight> when you try to inform them of something they treat it like if they don't know about it than it can't be real
[19:57:06] <bobo_> zeeshan that must be the last remaning mother load for parts ! how soon is your flight leaving ?
[19:57:48] <CaptHindsight> you can't help them since they are the experts
[19:58:11] <Tom_itx> at what?
[19:58:18] <_methods> hahahah
[19:58:21] <_methods> everything man
[19:58:27] <_methods> just ask one of them
[19:58:28] <CaptHindsight> whatever they have decided
[19:58:31] <Tom_itx> pumping sunshine where it isn't?
[19:59:20] <FinboySlick> Sunshine pumper... It's got a nice derogatory ring to it.
[20:01:02] <CaptHindsight> did they list the price of their silver ink anywhere?
[20:04:40] <CaptHindsight> 200cm^2 of solid fill per cartridge at what height? They don't mention the volume anywhere.
[20:06:29] <CaptHindsight> I should launch a better one that delivers way before Sept
[20:07:45] <_methods> heheh
[20:07:56] <_methods> bust their conductive ink bubble
[20:08:04] <_methods> sorry man this stuff was around before you
[20:12:19] <PetefromTn_> sometimes I think several folks here should collaborate on a product idea and make it probably would make millions LOL...
[20:13:05] <CaptHindsight> I'm working on the laptops now
[20:13:16] <PetefromTn_> looking at some of the bullshit products and parts ideas hosted on these sights it is almost laughable yet these jokers are making MONEY!
[20:13:17] <CaptHindsight> maybe some new printers next
[20:13:39] <CaptHindsight> but it's a patent minefield
[20:14:23] <PetefromTn_> I am always trying to come up with new ideas for parts/products I can machine and sell. It is difficult
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[20:15:03] <FinboySlick> PetefromTn_: Hehe, if you offer free shipping, you could mill me a new base and column ;)
[20:15:05] <CaptHindsight> I think most of us don't want to be associated with crap
[20:15:18] <Crom_> PetefromTn_, inexpensive touch probe
[20:15:24] <PetefromTn_> well that is exactly my point
[20:15:28] <CaptHindsight> those project members either don't realize what crap it is or don't care
[20:15:40] <PetefromTn_> I think the people here have the knowledge and skills to make GOOD parts and products
[20:16:16] <PetefromTn_> Crom_ There are already quite a few inexpensive touch probes available..
[20:16:21] <_methods> i'm too busy making my own stuff to make stuff for other people lol
[20:16:31] <Crom_> < $30 ?
[20:16:43] <PetefromTn_> seriously?
[20:16:52] <Crom_> with a 3mm shank
[20:17:24] <PetefromTn_> I can't even afford to turn the machine on for a $30.00 part unless there are gonna be hundreds of them
[20:18:14] <PetefromTn_> I don't need to make a killing by any stretch of the imagination
[20:18:35] <_methods> find something you like and make it better, then sell on amazon
[20:18:39] <PetefromTn_> _methods do you own the shop you work in?
[20:18:46] <_methods> nah i'm a slave
[20:18:51] <PetefromTn_> ok
[20:19:05] <_methods> i'm a relatively free slave though lol
[20:19:23] <_methods> office slave heheh
[20:19:35] <PetefromTn_> I have several products I sell that I designed myself I sell on ebay but they are for a somewhat slim market
[20:19:40] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150212-uk-engineers-successfully-3d-print-graphene-structures.html
[20:19:49] <PetefromTn_> so I only get orders occasionally..
[20:20:06] <_methods> do you make any money off the ebay stuff?
[20:20:28] <_methods> they need to hurry up and print a damn space elevator
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[20:20:36] <PetefromTn_> sure when I get sales...
[20:20:49] <PetefromTn_> nothing to write home about
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[20:21:20] <CaptHindsight> _methods: I'm working on the music for that right now :)
[20:21:25] <PetefromTn_> I need some kind of product that is for a more wide audience so I am not making just ten or twenty but hundreds of somehting....
[20:21:28] <_methods> hehe
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[20:21:53] <_methods> http://www.amazon.com/QuadHands-Armed-Helping-Soldering-Station/dp/B00GIKVP5K/ref=sr_1_7
[20:22:04] <Crom_> I think the touch probe price point for makerspace/ high school cnc labs is $<30
[20:22:07] <_methods> we make the bases for this guy's product
[20:22:22] <PetefromTn_> oh yeah?
[20:22:24] <_methods> we make like 200 a month for him
[20:22:33] <_methods> at $50 a pop lol
[20:22:51] <CaptHindsight> "This elevator stops at all floors from 1,500,000 to 3,000,000"
[20:22:51] <PetefromTn_> apparently not $50.00
[20:23:02] <PetefromTn_> unless he just likes giving them away
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[20:23:10] <_methods> no he sells them at $50
[20:23:20] <_methods> we sell him the base probably for like $2 lol
[20:23:31] <PetefromTn_> thats cheap
[20:23:40] <_methods> probably more like $5
[20:23:41] <PetefromTn_> is it laser cut or something
[20:23:44] <_methods> yeah
[20:23:46] <_methods> 1/4"
[20:23:49] <PetefromTn_> nice
[20:23:49] <_methods> steel
[20:23:55] <_methods> then powder coated
[20:24:08] <_methods> he buys the powder coat so he can get whatever color he wants to sell
[20:24:37] <CaptHindsight> where do you guys buy your powders for coating?
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[20:24:51] <_methods> i have no idea
[20:24:58] <_methods> our powder coater handles all that
[20:25:09] <_methods> chroma-something maybe?
[20:25:32] <CaptHindsight> http://www.tccoatings.com/ make just about everything
[20:26:11] <CaptHindsight> http://prismaticpowders.com/ same for
[20:26:21] <_methods> ahh i think that's who he gets it from
[20:26:24] <_methods> prismatic
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[20:33:02] <bobo_> zeeshan : "get the gear box selector working" ? sounds great to me . way more cool factor than just a vfd drive. also sounds --best of both worlds
[20:33:27] <zeeshan> i need some help with it
[20:33:33] <zeeshan> because i dont know what positions are "engaged"
[20:35:35] <bobo_> I don't know , but guess it is same as deckel -- maho --etc
[20:36:58] <bobo_> and they use a 2 speed motor
[20:37:13] <zeeshan> yea
[20:37:22] <zeeshan> but this one is 21 speds
[20:37:27] <zeeshan> i dont know if thats the same as maho and deckel
[20:38:51] <bobo_> 21 devided by 2 dosent work
[20:39:23] <PetefromTn_> 21 speeds? what is the max RPM?
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[20:41:23] <zeeshan> 2150
[20:41:25] <zeeshan> 3150
[20:42:01] <PetefromTn_> why the hell do you need 21 speeds to get to 3150 RPM?
[20:42:16] <zeeshan> best possible torque
[20:42:26] <zeeshan> keeping motor rpm at peak torque
[20:42:32] <PCW> you should fix the gearbox encoder board, can't be that hard
[20:42:33] <PetefromTn_> I guess.. must be a monster then
[20:43:38] <zeeshan> PCW: i don't know where the wires go
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[20:59:06] <Jymmm> zeeshan: lick em
[20:59:27] <bobo_> zeeshan: http://www.tritarp.com/tarps.htm these people just buy material elsewhare , even their best material wouldn't do well with hot chips hence metal slats needed
[20:59:38] <CaptHindsight> dumb and dumber http://www.3ders.org/articles/20150206-katy-perry-lawyers-demand-removal-of-3d-printable-left-shark-from-shapeways.html
[21:00:12] <zeeshan> did you hear about the taylor swift IP bullshit?
[21:00:14] <zeeshan> bobo_: yea
[21:00:29] <CaptHindsight> no what was it over?
[21:01:00] <zeeshan> http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6465331/taylor-swift-trademark-phrases-this-sick-beat-1989
[21:01:31] <zeeshan> shes got those lines trademarked rofl
[21:01:36] <zeeshan> THIS SICK BEAT
[21:02:05] <Rab> The most tragic part is that her beat isn't particularly sick.
[21:02:30] <CaptHindsight> good, anyone that actually uses that phrase in conversation should be beaten
[21:02:53] <zeeshan> even shake it off?
[21:03:55] <Rab> zeeshan, being sick of beat doesn't confer sickness of beat!
[21:04:02] <zeeshan> lol
[21:04:10] <zeeshan> Rab: just shake it off man.
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[21:07:08] <CaptHindsight> just think how the world would be different if bands since the Beatles started trademarking their song lyrics
[21:07:09] <zeeshan> https://www.dropbox.com/s/cknhoiggmrt64g0/speed%20selector.pdf?dl=0
[21:07:17] <zeeshan> so who wants to intrepret this diagram with me? ;-)
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[21:07:38] <zeeshan> those are pnp transitors
[21:09:21] <zeeshan> to me it looks like pin 5 requires 24VDC
[21:10:49] <zeeshan> where is ground? :)
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[21:11:07] <zeeshan> pin 8 or 9
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[21:13:13] <CaptHindsight> pin5 goes to a voltage regulator and also ....
[21:13:46] <CaptHindsight> pin 13 of U1, are you sure that diagram is correct?
[21:14:01] <zeeshan> i did my best to follow traces
[21:14:42] <zeeshan> u1 chip my not be exacly correct
[21:14:46] <zeeshan> *might
[21:14:51] <zeeshan> i had a hard time finding a datasheet forit
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[21:19:35] <bobo_> didnt you jest get a Cap checker ? use it to check ckt. bd. traces ?
[21:19:43] <zeeshan> looks like pin1,2,3,4,7
[21:19:51] <zeeshan> need to go to directly 7i77 inputs
[21:19:55] <CaptHindsight> never let a ME draw a schematic
[21:20:07] <zeeshan> they are pull down
[21:20:14] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: i drew it like the traces on the pcb
[21:20:18] <zeeshan> :)
[21:20:24] <CaptHindsight> yes, i know
[21:20:26] <zeeshan> i mean component placement
[21:20:38] <CaptHindsight> it's just difficult to read
[21:20:46] <zeeshan> well i have a diptrace file
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[21:20:49] <zeeshan> its a lot easier to follow traces
[21:20:54] <zeeshan> cause if you highlight for example a trace
[21:20:58] <zeeshan> it'll show all the relevant stuff
[21:21:16] <zeeshan> like if i highlight the out from the vreg
[21:21:25] <zeeshan> all the lines going to the hall switches light up
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[21:24:39] <CaptHindsight> http://www.orangepi.org/orangepiplus/en.html another board to try hm2_eth on someday
[21:26:01] <_methods> wow that thing is loaded down
[21:26:41] <_methods> ir recvr too
[21:27:30] <_methods> sata
[21:28:07] <_methods> does the rpi b+ have all that too?
[21:28:16] <_methods> $59
[21:28:18] <CaptHindsight> nope
[21:28:35] <CaptHindsight> it also has wifi
[21:28:38] <_methods> yeah
[21:28:49] <_methods> sata, wifi, ir, usb hub
[21:29:55] <CaptHindsight> 8GB of eMMC flash
[21:30:27] <_methods> yeah that's quite the little board right there
[21:32:36] <anarchos2> someone should make a board like that with the same fpgas that mesa use
[21:33:59] <CaptHindsight> it would make controllers a bit smaller for 3 axis machines
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[21:34:22] <Swapper> Would be cool with a mesa "cape" :)
[21:34:32] <anarchos2> yes, that's the answer
[21:34:44] <anarchos2> someone call up mesa and suggest that, they'd sell a bajillion of them
[21:34:55] <Swapper> PCW: ? :)
[21:35:06] <Tom_itx> pretty bad when the plugs take more room than the silicon
[21:35:13] <Swapper> They are on IRC no need to call them, :)
[21:36:05] <Tom_itx> and probably cost more as well
[21:36:17] <CaptHindsight> looks like the *duino form factor and the Rpi have become standard, so you could just make a new ARM SOC + FPGA board every year or put the FPGA on a daughter IO (cape, shield, sarape, pashmina, etc) card
[21:37:09] <anarchos2> i would love and all in one arm+fpga w/ a parallel port
[21:37:42] <anarchos2> i'd pay a premium (versus say what a 6i25+arm board would cost) just for the convience factor
[21:37:53] <Tom_itx> that's like putting a ferarri engine in a vw
[21:38:03] <CaptHindsight> if it were all in one you'd just have STEP, DIR and IO connections
[21:38:31] <CaptHindsight> or the anything IO on the edge od the board
[21:38:37] <CaptHindsight> od/of
[21:38:45] <Rab> Tom_itx, agreed...if you're paying for FPGA i/o, I don't see the value of coupling it to a cripped PC.
[21:39:41] <CaptHindsight> thats why using ethernet with hm2_eth and the Mesa ethernet FPGA boards would be handy
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[21:40:11] <Rab> Use a full PC and you can have a nice reponsive UI, have your CAD toolchain available right on the controller, etc.
[21:40:23] <CaptHindsight> since these ARM boards have a GPU powerful enough to run the GUI
[21:41:22] <Rab> (Saying this as I'm trying to use Machinekit w/BBB...but the supposed value there is that it already has RT i/o.
[21:41:26] <CaptHindsight> Rab: yeah tradeoffs, with ARM it can just be smaller with a simple power supply
[21:42:05] <anarchos2> BBB has hardware step generation?
[21:42:08] <CaptHindsight> this would be similar only the ARM board can also run a very responsive GUI
[21:42:41] <CaptHindsight> the BBB has 2 dedicated microcontroller that can generate steppping
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[21:44:52] <anarchos2> what i dream of is something like BBB or something with hardware step generation, running headless, then running a remote interface on a tablet
[21:45:01] <anarchos2> so basically the machinekit project :P
[21:45:41] <Rab> anarchos2, it can do that. I've forwarded the X session over SSH.
[21:46:00] <anarchos2> and then I'll create a custom tablet case with hardware buttons
[21:46:31] <Rab> anarchos2, http://blog.machinekit.io/2014/11/new-qtquickvcp-interfaces.html
[21:47:01] <Rab> Haven't tried these yet, but it's on the list.
[21:47:04] <anarchos2> yeah i saw that, looks pretty neat
[21:47:26] <anarchos2> will machinekit run on something other than the BBB? Like my x86 PC, for testing?
[21:47:37] <CaptHindsight> I need a small controller vs remote UI
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[21:48:21] <CaptHindsight> depends on the machinekit version, I'm not sure who keeps up with what that project is up to
[21:48:53] <CaptHindsight> anarchos2: it's a fork of Linuxcnc so you really do need to ask them
[21:49:00] <Deejay> gn8
[21:49:56] <CaptHindsight> Hey DJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHMVkqCKknc
[21:50:35] <Rab> anarchos2, machinekit.io describes some ambitious blue-sky effort to run Machinekit everywhere, but I think it's confined to BBB (and possiby other ARM platforms) at the moment.
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[21:51:50] <Rab> The guts of LinuxCNC for Machinekit seem to be highly specific to the BBB i/o scheme.
[21:52:13] <Rab> New stepgens written in BBB PRU assembly, etc.
[21:52:22] <Rab> As I discovered the hard way.
[21:54:41] <CaptHindsight> preempt_rt is a bit broken right now on ARM, but latencies are <25uS on a few platforms
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[21:56:56] <CaptHindsight> https://www.osadl.org/Latency-plot-of-system-in-rack-b-slot.qa-latencyplot-rbs8.0.html?latencies=&showno=&slider=108
[21:57:59] <CaptHindsight> https://www.osadl.org/Latency-plot-of-system-in-rack-c-slot.qa-latencyplot-rcs5.0.html?latencies=&showno=&slider=108
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[22:02:59] <__rob> is that latency to output a step ?
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[22:18:04] <CaptHindsight> __rob: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/motion/tweaking_steppers.html
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[22:18:57] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/StepTimingCalculator.ods
[22:19:36] <dgarr> tjt
[22:20:17] <dgarr> tjtr33, seb_kuzminsky here's a stab at converting .time params to pins (tested on uspace sim 2.7 seems ok):
[22:20:19] <dgarr> http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/0001-hal_lib-change-.time-item-from-parameter-to-pin.patch
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[22:33:09] <__rob> just wondering if you are going to go down the route of making hardware to drive the pulses then why you wouldn't use an fpga
[22:34:49] <__rob> rather then some microcontroller
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[22:41:27] <tjtr33> dgarr, thx will try soon
[22:42:02] <CaptHindsight> __rob: the BBB ARM SOC has 2 integrated micros in addition to the ARM core called PRU's, they were included for just these types of applications
[22:42:13] <CaptHindsight> it's already on chip so they used them
[22:42:35] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ti.com/product/am3358
[22:42:48] <CaptHindsight> ^^ the ARM SOC on the BBB
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[22:58:55] <MrSunshine> hmm how the heck to get rid of mdf residue from router bits? :/
[22:59:08] <MrSunshine> denatured alochol doesnt work .. acetone doesnt work .. wd-40 doesnt work ...
[23:00:56] <ssi> MrSunshine: try products for de-pitching saw blades
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[23:16:30] <fluffybitchx> MEK
[23:18:55] <Connor> Anyone know what the code is on running a single wire to a switch for a switched outlet when the supply comes in on the OUTLET side ?
[23:19:21] <Connor> Normally, you bring supply into the switch side.. break the HOT and tie the common together.. and run the wire to the outlet..
[23:19:32] <fluffybitchx> single wire as in single romex run?
[23:19:47] <Connor> but.. in this case.. the outlet has the power (because it's a split outlet.. and will have a single wire running to the switch.
[23:20:09] <Connor> so one side of the wire will be always hot, the other side will be switched hot.. (and the wrong COLOR it'll be WHITE instead of black9
[23:20:25] <JT-Shop> black tape
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[23:20:39] <Connor> OKay, that's what I thought..
[23:20:40] <fluffybitchx> if you mean a single romex run to the switch, tie the incoming black at the outlet to the black in the run to the switch, then tape the white with black tape.
[23:21:23] <fluffybitchx> Note that if you're working on other people's wiring, don't expect to see the black tape. Most people "forget" it.
[23:21:41] <JT-Shop> switching the neutral is so shocking LOL
[23:22:25] <Connor> I have to through in a blank GFCI in the mix too...
[23:22:47] <Connor> and trying to decide exactly where to place the outlet under the sink..
[23:22:59] <Connor> Needs to be on the side of the dishwasher..
[23:23:23] <Connor> but, high.. or low...
[23:23:30] <CaptHindsight> http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2315435/83577235.jpg Soviet Plane-spotters around 1917, but reminds me of something you'd find on Thingiverse
[23:23:31] <Connor> damn OCD kicking in again.
[23:23:48] <fluffybitchx> above and away from likely plumbing leaks, like the hoses to the dishwasher.
[23:24:01] <JT-Shop> what are you switching the disposal?
[23:24:57] <Connor> JT-Shop: Yes, and giving a plug to the dishwasher..
[23:25:04] <Connor> they were hardwired.. no GFCI
[23:25:41] <_methods> yeah i'm sure you can find those on thingiverse
[23:25:51] <Connor> I'm changing them over so it's easier to deal with if I have to pull the dishwasher out.. or change the disposal etc etc.
[23:26:19] <JT-Shop> yea, just tape the white with black tape and place it above the plumbing if possible
[23:26:45] <andypugh> Black for Live always surprises me. It’s just wrong :-)
[23:27:06] <JT-Shop> I like blue myself
[23:27:10] <fluffybitchx> why is it wrong?
[23:27:38] <Connor> I think I'll have to use a OLD WORK electrical box.. Not sure I have a stud close by to use..
[23:27:50] <fluffybitchx> "remodel"
[23:27:59] <JT-Shop> yea a cut in box
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[23:28:38] <Connor> Yea. I have a remodel box for the dispoal switch and light... that's going to get changed to a "new work" box because it's exposed now and I can install it. and frankly it's in the way at the moment now..
[23:28:43] <JT-Shop> if you have a stud put the wires in the box then pull it into the hole and screw the side of the box to the stud
[23:28:45] <andypugh> We have brown for live now, that doesn’t make any sense either.
[23:29:00] <andypugh> UK used to be red for live, black for neutral.
[23:29:18] <Connor> OKay next question.. the box that the switch is in, already has a live circuit in it.. but, I'm using a different circuit for the disposal.. is that allowed ?
[23:29:18] <andypugh> That is the combination that makes sense to me.
[23:29:26] <JT-Shop> electricity doesn't care what color it is
[23:30:04] <JT-Shop> I can't see why not
[23:30:06] <fluffybitchx> ... I'm reading an article that suggests that to grow a pineapple in a cool climate, you wrap the plant in large-bulb christmas lights then wrap it with plastic wrap. fire hazard, anyone?
[23:30:17] <andypugh> Connor: I can see reasons that that might be frowned on.
[23:30:25] <Connor> The dishwasher had it's OWN breaker.. going to use it for dishwasher and the disposal.
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[23:30:48] <Connor> andypugh: Yes. Because you turn of a breaker only to find that there is still a live circuit in the box.. I don't think that's code.
[23:30:51] <fluffybitchx> Connor: I'm not aware of that being explicitly disallowed, but I'm no code expert. it might need a "this appliance has multiple disconnects" sticker or something.
[23:31:22] <andypugh> Yeah, I would put a Dymo-label tag on the wire ends to explain which breaker they are on.
[23:31:38] <JT-Shop> your going to use the same breaker for both so when it is off all is off
[23:31:43] <dirty_d> hmm, my jax jitter from the latency test stays around 15000 for a while, just went up to 81000 though. How bad is that?
[23:31:47] <andypugh> That’s not the regs, and might even be disallowed by the regs, but it might save me a self-administered surprise.
[23:31:52] <dirty_d> max jitter*
[23:32:08] <andypugh> dirty_d: medium-bad
[23:32:15] <andypugh> Any sign of what triggered it?
[23:32:28] <dirty_d> i have no idea, but im not sure how to really check
[23:32:41] <dirty_d> im using the debian image from the site if that helps
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[23:32:48] <fluffybitchx> dirty_d: not great. if doing a specific thing causes the spike, you could avoid doing the specific thing. for example, my system maintains excellent (sub-10k) numbers unless I initialize an accelerated video or do anything involving power management.
[23:32:54] <andypugh> You weren’t watchin youtube or playing WoW at the time?
[23:33:03] <dirty_d> nope, haha
[23:33:04] <Connor> JT-Shop: No. One breaker is for the dishwasher / disposal (now) the other breaker is for the rest of the outlets in the kitchen.. which excludes the fridge/microwave..
[23:33:35] <andypugh> dirty_d: Maybe try disabling the power-management in the BIOS.
[23:33:38] <fluffybitchx> Connor: if the other circuit dead-ends in that box, you could disconnect it at the other end.
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[23:33:52] <JT-Shop> both circuits come into the same switch box?
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[23:34:12] <Connor> Yes. One for the overhead light.. the other will be for the disposal.
[23:34:25] <Connor> I guess I could move the light to the dishwaher/disposal circuit...
[23:34:32] <JT-Shop> so you will have two switches in the box
[23:34:35] <dirty_d> im not sure that i can, I remember seeing settings for ACPI S3 and stuff but i don't think there was an option to turn it off.
[23:34:37] <Connor> yes.
[23:34:40] <dirty_d> im gonna reboot and look again
[23:34:56] <JT-Shop> should be intuitive to the next person to peek inside
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[23:35:32] <Connor> I Think it will be.. the one switch will just have 2 wires from the same romex on it.. and nothing else..
[23:35:37] <JT-Shop> tail out any branches so you don't use the switch for a terminal block
[23:35:37] <Connor> so, I think it'll be safe.
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[23:35:53] <Connor> tail out ?
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[23:36:10] <fluffybitchx> JT-Shop: there's no connection between the two circuits
[23:36:25] <JT-Shop> ie if you have a hot coming and leaving the box and feeding the switch wire nut them together and only have one wire on the switch
[23:36:26] <fluffybitchx> one switch is feeding a light, the other is a switch loop to the disposal outlet. no connection between them.
[23:37:01] <Connor> Can't do that because they're separate circuits.
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[23:40:11] <fluffybitchx> playing around with my X leadscrew today... it's not as straight as I'd hoped. plan B, cutting the end off and joining to it with a shaft coupler, might be the way to go.
[23:41:19] <JT-Shop> if you have a circuit that passes through a box and feeds a device in that box then you tail it out by adding a short wire to them and feed the device with that
[23:41:23] <Tom_itx> Connor 2 separate circuits in one box isn't allowed
[23:41:43] <Tom_itx> if they're from the same breaker that's different
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[23:42:15] <Tom_itx> there are rules on box size vs number of wires too
[23:42:21] <JT-Shop> you can run 12-3 to a box from two circuit breakers and split it out
[23:43:01] <fluffybitchx> move both circuits to one double-pole breaker and pretend it's a multiwire branch. :)
[23:43:04] <JT-Shop> or 12-4 if you have a three phase 120v panel
[23:43:15] <Tom_itx> you sure? i think if you do that the breakers should be linked
[23:43:42] <JT-Shop> nope it is common practice to use only one neutral between different phases
[23:43:47] <fluffybitchx> hrmm, I can't find any prohibition on it for low-voltage circuits... >300V you're supposed to use a box divider.
[23:44:00] <JT-Shop> because the hots are out of phase you can do that
[23:44:25] <Tom_itx> i can see that
[23:44:35] <JT-Shop> each circuit is a different color
[23:44:37] <fluffybitchx> current code requires multiwire branch circuits to use a common-trip breaker
[23:44:51] <Tom_itx> i can't see 2 breakers to a box unless they're linked though. if one trips you think the box is dead but it may not be
[23:44:52] <JT-Shop> black red for 240v single phase
[23:45:10] <JT-Shop> you never assume
[23:45:17] <Tom_itx> i never do.. just saying
[23:45:19] <andypugh> fluffybitchx: Where is the bend in the screw?
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[23:45:37] <JT-Shop> if they are linked then you have a 240v circuit not two 120v circuitsw
[23:45:52] <fluffybitchx> andypugh: http://fw.bushytails.net/bentleadscrew01.jpg
[23:46:09] <fluffybitchx> I straightened it with a torch and hammer, but not sure I have it running true enough. will know when I put it back together...
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[23:46:26] <andypugh> Yes, that is not subtly bent
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[23:46:46] <ssi> lol dang
[23:46:56] <andypugh> Is that a plain end?
[23:46:57] <fluffybitchx> if it's not running true enough, and further hammering doesn't fix it, I'll just cut and couple it.
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[23:47:16] <JT-Shop> I've worked on government jobs pretending to be an electrician and it is standard practice to use one neutral for two circuits and split them up at some logical point
[23:47:29] <fluffybitchx> the only force on that end is torque. the thrust bearings are on the other end. any shaft coupler will make it work.
[23:47:49] <fluffybitchx> JT-Shop: yes, it's standard practice, but I've always considered it a bit evil. heh.
[23:47:51] <Tom_itx> i'm not licensed either so you may well be right
[23:48:03] <andypugh> I wouldn’t cut and couple it, I would turn it down and sleeve it, then re-turn the sleeve. Or possibly build-up the critical areas with weld and then re-machine.
[23:48:13] <JT-Shop> not really evil to do that
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[23:48:32] <fluffybitchx> andypugh: that's a lot more work.
[23:48:36] <Tom_itx> i need to get after wiring my box some more tonight
[23:48:40] <fluffybitchx> and requires a larger lathe than I own.
[23:48:45] <JT-Shop> evil is what carpenters do when they are playing electrican
[23:48:59] <_methods> indeed
[23:49:08] <fluffybitchx> JT-Shop: I was working on a house the other day where I still don't know how any of the lights managed to work.
[23:49:20] <JT-Shop> I love to find "turkey tie in's"
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[23:49:38] <JT-Shop> and it's shocking to find a switched neutral
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[23:49:51] <_methods> used to work at a woodshop with an air compressor next to soda machine........if you put a hand on the compressor when you leaned over to get soda and hit the chassis of soda machine you would get a fun surprise
[23:49:59] <dirty_d> pretty sure its my damn usb mouse and keyboard that is causing the high jitter
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[23:50:13] <dirty_d> if i hit reset statistics it stays at 10000
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[23:50:23] <fluffybitchx> JT-Shop: ALL wiring was done in hidden boxes built into the ceiling, that we had to rip two layers of ceiling off to get to... horribly horribly overloaded boxes... and wiring that made NO SENSE AT ALL. like lights getting hot from a switch on a different breaker than the neutral going to the light, things running in loops in the ceiling for no apparant reason, etc, etc.
[23:50:25] <dirty_d> as soon as i start moving my mouse around it goes over 50000
[23:50:30] <JT-Shop> _methods, I had a small place that was wired up like that... shocking for sure
[23:50:43] <_methods> yeah you never knew what would get you there
[23:50:47] <_methods> woodshops are dangerous
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[23:50:57] <JT-Shop> yea, that is how carpenters wire houses
[23:50:57] <fluffybitchx> dirty_d: sounds like your box isn't a great canidate for hardware step generation. consider a mesa board.
[23:50:58] <_methods> i had to get out of that business while i still had all my appendages
[23:51:25] <fluffybitchx> as far as I can tell, he just randomly connected wires in every possibly combination until most things (and I mean most - some lights didn't) work.
[23:52:41] <fluffybitchx> it set a record for the worse overloaded box I've seen... if I remember right, it was a 10/4, a 12/4, and 3 12/3s... in an octagonal light box. and all the old cloth insulated nm, not modern nm-b.
[23:52:47] <fluffybitchx> overfilled
[23:52:52] <JT-Shop> I've seen a set of 3-ways that you had to turn it on with on and off with the other or something strange like that and 12-3 run for coax
[23:53:10] <dirty_d> i suppose i can just disable usb and get a ps2 keyboard and mouse
[23:53:32] <dirty_d> whoops, nevermind, no ps2 ports, lol
[23:53:34] <JT-Shop> now that is an overloaded box
[23:53:45] <fluffybitchx> do you know what it looks like when you pack a 10/4, a 12/4, and three 12/3s into a small octagonal light box? it was packed SOLID. no airspace, looks like he must have bashed it in with a hammer.
[23:53:56] * JT-Shop wanders inside to cook some home made pizza
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[23:54:23] <fluffybitchx> ... said box had a hole blown clean through it after the second short between one of the wires and the box... the box was probably sitting at 110v (no ground, of course) for years until the second short...
[23:55:10] <JT-Shop> yea, I'
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[23:56:02] <dirty_d> damn, cant even get a pci ps2 card, only one pci slot
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[23:56:37] <JT-Shop> ve seen that before
[23:57:15] <JT-Shop> like PVC means Pipe Very Crowded
[23:57:42] <fluffybitchx> I decided it was more work than I wanted to deal with, so had them call a licensed electrician... the guy that came out commented that in 20 years, it was the worst box he'd ever seen.
[23:57:51] <JT-Shop> I saw one guy that put 6 90's in the conduit and complained about how hard it was to pull the wire
[23:58:04] <andypugh> dirty_d: as fluffybitchx said, you could use your one PCI slot for a Mesa 5i25 / 7i76 combo then the 81k latency wouldn’t matter, you would have a ton of IO and 10MHz step rate/resolution.
[23:58:23] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[23:58:24] <dirty_d> how much do those cost?
[23:59:01] <andypugh> http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=83_84&product_id=215
[23:59:41] <andypugh> They make the parport look very 20th century.