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[00:13:44] <weev> jerkey braced himself on the bed and pushed his head past the quivering spinchter of yardena’s gaping asshole. She moaned deeply as she felt the massive intruder fill her ass like it had never been filled before. jerkey reached down and grabbed the large bottle of lube and squirted a generous amount along the shaft. He pulled out with a loud “pop” and coated the head and yardena’s ass with the slipp
[00:13:50] <weev> ery liquid. He quickly pushed back in and felt ...
[00:13:52] <weev> ... the going a bit easier with the aide of the lube, but her anal canal was still vice-tight. “Fuck it” he muttered to himself and pushed more of his thick dong inside of her. yardena could only groan, totally taken by jerkey’s huge cock filling every crevice of her.
[00:13:56] <weev> “Fuck, I can hardly breath,” yardena thought as she fought hard to keep her self as relaxed as possible. But that was no easy feat as every nerve ending in the tight canal was on fire, riding the fine line between pain and pleasure as jerkey continued to stuff his fat sausage inside of her. setient lifted her head slightly and grabbed yardena’s large tit and stuffed it into her mouth, causing yardena
[00:14:02] <weev> to groan harder. She hooked her right leg against ...
[00:14:05] <weev> ... the back of yardena’s leg and pulled her towards her in and effort to spurn yardena to continue fucking her with the big fake cock. “C’mon, fuck me!” setient shouted around a mouth full of yardena’s nipple. She bit down hard on the sensitive nip and caused yardena to bury the big dong deep inside of her throbbing pussy. “Fuck! Yes! That’s it!” setient yelled. The interaction of the women
[00:14:11] <weev> underneath him spurred jerkey’s own lust and ...
[00:14:13] <weev> ... he drove his cock deep into yardena’s ass, nearly knocking the wind out of her. “Fuck - I’ve never had anything that deep before,” she thought to herself as her head began to swim from the sensations.
[00:14:17] <weev> After a few moments, the trio had established a frenzied rhythm, with jerkey driving into yardena as she was on the backstroke of pumping setient. jerkey really wanted to slid his cock inside of yardena’s hot pussy but the brace of the harness was in the way, and he didn’t want to stop her from pounding into setient. The sounds of moans and groans and bodies smacking against each other filled the room.
[00:14:23] <weev> The harder jerkey fucked yardena, the harder she ...
[00:14:26] <weev> ... drove into setient. jerkey’s big balls swung like a wrecking ball, smashing against both ladies asses with enough force that they left large bruise spots. The sting from each slap was like fuel to a spark plug, further igniting his charge. It took a great deal of effort for him to finally make the move, but after several minutes of hard, jackhammer fucking, jerkey decided he needed to extract himself
[00:14:32] <weev> before he shot his load deep into yardena’s ...
[00:14:35] <weev> ... bowels.
[00:14:37] <weev> Instead of completely stopping his thrusts, jerkey slowly and methodically made his thrusts more and more shallow until finally only the fat head remained, the tight spinchter of yardena’s ass held the neck of his cock like a vice. He gritted his teeth and quickly pulled back, his cock exiting her tight anus with a loud pop. yardena screamed in relief, her ass hole gaped wide after being released. jerkey
[00:14:43] <weev> quickly moved into position up on the bed up ...
[00:14:45] <weev> ... behind setient’s head and stuck his big rod between them, letting it rest the the immense cleavage of setient’s massive tits and his big sack draped over his wife’s face. yardena attacked his cock instantly, licking and sucking him clean. setient grabbed his cock and moved her head from underneath jerkey’s heavy ball sac. “I want to taste that creamy asshole,” she said as she ran her tongue
[00:14:52] <weev> up and down as much as she could of the shaft. ...
[00:14:54] <weev> ... jerkey adjusted his position and moved back and to the side, allowing setient to stuff as much of jerkey’s rigid cock in her mouth as she could. yardena moved her head down the shaft and nuzzled her face into the massive expanse of his scrotum, licking and nibbling on the base of his gigantic tool.
[00:14:59] <weev> “Yehhhhhhhh,” jerkey moaned as he grabbed a handful of setient’s hair. “Lick it clean, bitch! Lick all of that nasty ass juice off my cock!” With his other hand, he grabbed yardena by the back of her head and shoved her face down closer to setient’s. “Come on, you mother fucker! I’m loving the way you’re lickin my big fuckin balls, but you need to get down there and help her clean my cock!
[00:15:05] <weev> ” Hearing the raw, animalistic lust in ...
[00:15:08] <weev> ... jerkey’s voice made yardena fuck setient harder as she moved down jerkey’s shaft. She met setient at the end of the fat dong and the two battered jerkey’s deep purple head with their tongues. jerkey slapped yardena’s big ass several times, enjoying the way the large flesh shook and wobbled with each strike. “Take off that dick, he said gruffly as he pushed her back from setient. “Let’s see
[00:15:14] <weev> how you like the real thing.”
[00:15:16] <weev> yardena pulled out of setient’s sopping pussy and quickly unbuckled the straps from her waist and legs. jerkey laid down as setient moved out of the way. He grabbed the base of his cock in his left hand and with his right, he reached over to setient and pulled her closer. She immediately grabbed the monstrous tower of hot flesh and stroked it hard, pumping it with great force. yardena looked at the height
[00:15:22] <weev> of his cock and gasped. “Just how long is that ...
[00:15:25] <weev> ... thing? Good fucking grief - there’s now way I can get up on that thing!” jerkey laughed. "Come on up here," he said, motioning for her to straddle his chest. yardena got up top of jerkey as instructed and setient pushed his cock down towards his chest. yardena quickly saw what jerkey was doing and adjusted herself so that she lined up his cock with her dripping pussy. She braced her hands against th
[00:15:31] <weev> e headboard and pushed, forcing her body to slide ...
[00:15:33] <weev> ... back and onto the big stick.
[00:15:36] <weev>
[00:15:38] <weev> “Ahhhhhhhhhh” yardena and jerkey moaned in unison as she slid her hot, pulsing snatch over the beefy appendage. yardena pushed until her arms were straight against the headboard and she couldn’t push any further. She reached back and felt for what was still left and gasped. “I can’t take anymore and there’s still so much left,” she said through gritted teeth. setient smiled and moved between j
[00:15:44] <weev> erkey’s legs. She gave each of his monstrous ...
[00:15:47] <weev> ... testicles two hard whacks, spurring him to pump his cock. yardena wailed as jerkey pistoned his cock in and out of her. He grabbed her waist and pounded his cock relentlessly up into her. Her big juggs swung and flopped about, thumping into his face with each stroke. setient gave yardena’s ass a smack so hard that it left a bright red imprint of her hand. The sting of the contact made yardena yell in
[00:15:53] <weev> pain. yardena whacked the other big cheek and ...
[00:15:55] <weev> ... screamed at her to ride jerkey harder.
[00:15:58] <weev> “C’mon bitch! Take all of that big cock!,” setient growled into yardena’s ear. jerkey’s chesst swelled with a mixture of pride and lust at how setient was reacting and participating. He noted that while she was vocal and very engaged when Lori shared their bed, that was something about yardena that brought something extra out of her. He loved seeing his wife in this dominating role and could feel
[00:16:04] <weev> a surge of adrenaline from from his massive balls ...
[00:16:06] <weev> ... all the way up the shaft to the the thick rock hard glans. yardena’s pussy squelched and spat its juices all over jerkey’s cock as her big tits mashed against his face. He moved his head to see that setient had yardena by the back of her head and had her left tit lifted and mashed against yardena’s face. The sunken nature of her cheeks indicated that she was sucking setient’s nipple as deeply as
[00:16:12] <weev> she could into her mouth. The sight spurred ...
[00:16:15] <weev> ... jerkey to pump even harder and faster.
[00:16:17] <weev> The fullness yardena was experiencing was almost unbearable. Not even her biggest toys had filled her so fully and completely. The intense friction bordered on excruciating pain but the overwhelming pleasure of what she felt was just as intense. She bit down on setient’s nipple inadvertently in an effort to keep from screaming and she felt setient tense and pull her fence even deeper into the massive expa
[00:16:23] <weev> nse of the gigantic left tit. She heard and felt ...
[00:16:26] <weev> ... jerkey’s big ballsac smacking against her ass and his thighs and the grunting and groaning he was doing was getting faster and louder. As much as she didn’t want it to stop, yardena hoped that he was ready to drop his load. She spat the big nipple out of her mouth and tried to goad him on. “Come on big boy,” she said between ragged breaths. “Shoot all of that thick hot juice deep in my pussy!
[00:16:32] <weev> Oh yeh - I wanna feel it! Come on baby and drain ...
[00:16:34] <weev> ... those big balls for me again!” jerkey smirked and slowed his thrusts. “I don’t think so,” he grinned. “I’m nowhere near ready to cum just yet. We’ve got a lot more fucking to do.”
[00:16:38] <weev> jerkey slid down on the bed while simultaneously pushing up on yardena, effectively lifting her off his cock. The thick dong dislodged from its tight confines after considerable effort and yardena fell on the bed to the side, exhausted. jerkey moved to his right and stood on the side of the bed. setient was on him immediately, sliding her lips and tongue up and down the long shaft. After licking every squar
[00:16:44] <_methods> yes yes
[00:16:44] <weev> e inch of the big beast, setient laid down next ...
[00:16:47] <weev> ... to yardena and jerkey straddled her chest, dropping the heavy log between the big balloons with a thud. setient spat several large thick wads of saliva on his cock and smeared it all over the shaft before enveloping the big dick in her big juggs. jerkey leaned forward and braced his hands agains the headboard. He could only grunt as he took long, slow and measured strokes, pushing and pulling his cock i
[00:16:53] <weev> n the valley of hot flesh. He had done amazingly ...
[00:16:55] <weev> ... well is staving off his impending ejaculation but he knew he shouldn’t be able to hold out much longer. He closed his eyes and concentrated deeply on controlling his breath; watching the big cock head slide back and forth up against her setient’s cheek was too much.
[00:16:57] <_methods> don't stop
[00:16:59] <weev> setient was amazed at the mass of his balls were as she felt them rest heavily on her lower stomach. She looked over at yardena and once again saw her staring and watching wide-eyed at the size of setient’s tits. “You like them?” she asked huskily. yardena shook her head slowly. “This tits are amazing. They’re so big … “ yardena trailed off as her fingers traced along the large swell of the un
[00:17:01] <_methods> i'm about to shoot my load
[00:17:05] <weev> derside of setient’s tit. “The last time I ...
[00:17:08] <weev> ... saw you, you were big … but not like this … wow …” yardena shook her head and moved to press her body as close to setient and jerkey as she could. jerkey felt yardena’s big tit mash against his thigh and be started to pump his cock faster and shorten his stroke. yardena reached up and grabbed jerkey’s taut ass cheek and squeezed, then reached between his legs and took as much of one of his t
[00:17:14] <weev> esticles in her hand, resulting in a deep growl ...
[00:17:16] <weev> ... from jerkey and another increase in speed. yardena was amazed at jerkey’s stamina, not to mention his gargantuan size. “I wonder if this big balls can dump another load like the first one?” she thought. “Only one way to find out.”
[00:17:20] <weev> yardena gave his big sack a hard slap which made jerkey roar with both pain and ecstasy. He pushed back away from setient and moved back to straddler her legs. He grabbed the base of thick shaft in both hands and began to jack his dick furiously. yardena moved up next to setient and thrust her tongue into her mouth. setient sucked hungrily on yardena’s tongue while continuing to grab and squeeze her massi
[00:17:26] <weev> ve tits. jerkey sat up on one knee, gritted his ...
[00:17:29] <weev> ... teeth and squeezed the base of his cock as he felt the first stream rocket up his urethra and fire from the gaping slit of his aching cock head. The thick rope of cum cleared the high rise of setient’s tits and landed squarely on the junction of the women’s mouths. The next stream followed immediately behind and landed on yardena’s face. jerkey quickly stood up on the bed and fired the the next se
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[00:17:35] <weev> veral streams down on the women, covering them in ...
[00:17:37] <weev> ... his hot spunk. jerkey dropped back down to one knee and gasped for breath as he watched yardena lick up as much as she could as setient continued to squeeze and mash her big tits together.
[00:17:41] <weev> After several minutes had passed, jerkey climbed off the bed and made his way over to the bathroom, his big flaccid cock swinging between his legs like a heavy pendulum. He grabbed a bottle of water from the mini fridge under the sink and quickly drank it down. He grabbed another and did the same. After tossing the bottles in the trash, he leaned back against the opposite counter top and looked at his refle
[00:17:47] <weev> ction in the full length mirror. His cock looked ...
[00:17:50] <weev> ... as if it’d just gone 12 rounds in a heavy-weight fight. The head of his cock, while now soft, was still a shade of purple and the shaft look puffy and swollen. The thick veins running from the base of his cock slowly pulsed and jerkey wondered just how much blood it took to get him erect. His thighs were streaked with cum and the big ball sac hung incredibly full and low between his legs. “I’ve tu
[00:17:56] <weev> rned into a fucking freak - and I could care ...
[00:17:58] <weev> ... less,” he said to himself. He tried to wrap his hand around the base and chuckled at the futile effort. He heard a shuffling noise and looked up to see setient come around the corner.
[00:18:01] <_methods> cradek:
[00:18:02] <weev> “yardena is out like a light. You really laid into her,” setient said as she slid next to him and took his heavy cock in her hand. “I said it before and I’ll say it again: I don’t think I’ll ever get use to this thing being this big,” she mused. "And the crazy thing is that t’s only going to get bigger.” jerkey smiled and felt the slow rush of blood pouring back into his cock. jerkey lifte
[00:18:08] <weev> d one her her big tits and smiled. “Well, you ...
[00:18:11] <weev> ... know you can always make these bigger to match,” he laughed. setient playfully punched him in the stomach. “These ladies wouldn’t mind but any bigger and you’re gonna have a hard time getting that thing up in my pussy.” jerkey shook his head in agreement. “Well what do you propose?” he asked. setient took his growing cock in her hand again and gave it a squeeze. “Well, it looked like yar
[00:18:17] <weev> dena was able to handled this big boy up her ass ...
[00:18:19] <weev> ... - let me see if I can top that.” jerkey raised an eyebrow in surprise. “Oh? So you think you’re ready?” setient gave a wink and headed back towards the bed. “Guess it’s time to find out.”
[00:18:24] <_methods> seb_kuzminsky:
[00:18:37] <_methods> thank you
[00:20:32] <zeeshan> mach 3 user
[00:21:00] <_methods> the legendary weev
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[00:22:15] <_methods> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weev
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[00:23:36] <_methods> +1 Jymmm
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[00:24:15] <PetefromTn_> Great another asshole with nothing better to do....
[00:24:32] <_methods> yeah it's amazing how shaun shows back up and we get weev in here
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[00:25:07] <CaptHindsight> per-holiday trolls
[00:25:08] <shaun413> ?
[00:25:16] <shaun413> oh lol
[00:25:25] <LeelooMinai> "American grey hat[3] hacker, white nationalist, and Internet troll" ... lol
[00:25:46] <LeelooMinai> Quite an achivement to have wikipedia entry like that
[00:25:55] <_methods> yeah he's quite special
[00:26:13] <PetefromTn_> it's nauseating that he is given such notariety
[00:27:13] <_methods> i'm sure he made his wiki entry himself
[00:27:51] <shaun413> wait
[00:28:00] <shaun413> why would he make a wiki????
[00:28:24] <_methods> Jymmm: you wanna swing that banhammer again lol
[00:28:47] <shaun413> ...
[00:28:54] <Jymmm> _methods: You asking me to ban you?
[00:29:00] <_methods> heheh
[00:29:01] <_methods> no
[00:29:03] <Jymmm> Ok, since you asked...
[00:29:07] <PetefromTn_> is that what that Chanserv mode change means?
[00:29:09] <CaptHindsight> oh you kids today with your intertubes, trolls and rap music
[00:29:30] * Jymmm sets mode: +dumbass _methods*!*@*
[00:29:39] <_methods> hahah
[00:29:43] <_methods> that was already enabled
[00:29:51] <Jymmm> lol
[00:30:01] <zeeshan> you guys didnt like the story?
[00:30:03] <zeeshan> i thought it was interesting
[00:30:12] <zeeshan> its how a mach 3 user thinks
[00:30:15] <zeeshan> :D
[00:30:40] <Jymmm> Should these leak between the brass and compression parts? http://www.watts.com/pages/_products_details.asp?pid=6850
[00:30:59] <PetefromTn_> Zeeshan=>=>=>Weev
[00:31:03] <Jymmm> The threads are 90% engaged to the fitting. Defect?
[00:31:28] <LeelooMinai> I wanted to ask something, but now forgot
[00:31:31] <Jymmm> err I meant crimped not compression
[00:31:34] * LeelooMinai thinks
[00:31:45] <Jymmm> LeelooMinai: goto the room you last thought it
[00:31:53] <shaun413> hm
[00:32:18] <Jymmm> LeelooMinai: goto the room you last thought the question that is.
[00:32:38] <LeelooMinai> I know - is there some tool for cutting machine screws so that they still work nicely? Like bolt-cutter, but non-thread destructive. If I need I do that with a hacksaw and vise, but seems a bit lame way to do that:)
[00:32:58] <_methods> angle grinder with cutoff wheel
[00:33:00] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: nope
[00:33:04] <_methods> or a lathe
[00:33:09] <Jymmm> LeelooMinai: Thread two nuts on it before cutting.
[00:33:18] <zeeshan> LeelooMinai: meet me!
[00:33:22] <zeeshan> im going to kitchener
[00:33:25] <zeeshan> in 5 mins
[00:33:31] <zeeshan> :D
[00:33:40] <LeelooMinai> zeeshan: I don't live in Kitchener...
[00:33:43] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: no on leaking, or no on being defective?
[00:33:43] <zeeshan> whoops :p
[00:33:52] <LeelooMinai> O wait, I do
[00:33:54] <zeeshan> im going there to pick up some tires
[00:34:02] <zeeshan> im kidding about meeting
[00:34:06] <LeelooMinai> But I could live on Antarctica and it would be the same - if I had internet that is
[00:34:06] <zeeshan> you dont wanna meet me
[00:34:07] <zeeshan> im mean
[00:34:08] <Jymmm> no your not
[00:34:10] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: they should be leaking from that
[00:34:23] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: should not be, sorry
[00:34:37] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: ok, so more than liely a defective hose?
[00:34:53] <LeelooMinai> Angle grinder kind of makes me nervous. I used it quite a lot of times, but if I can I would rather avoid it:)
[00:35:06] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: maybe or a bad crimp
[00:35:07] <Jymmm> LeelooMinai: hacksaw, dremel
[00:35:18] <LeelooMinai> Right, so hacksaw is the best I guess.
[00:35:18] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Ok, thanks. these are pre-made home depot.
[00:35:24] <_methods> only ways i know are lathe, grinder, dremel, or hacksaw
[00:35:25] <PetefromTn_> die grinder with ziss cutoff wheel and a couple nuts
[00:35:43] <_methods> or bench grinder
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[00:35:48] <zeeshan> LeelooMinai: any good food places in kitchener?
[00:35:56] <zeeshan> gf is comin with me too
[00:35:59] <zeeshan> i take her for a treat
[00:35:59] <_methods> grab the bole with some vise grips and grind away
[00:36:14] <_methods> s/bole/bolt
[00:36:15] <LeelooMinai> zeeshan: I don't leave my house almost ever - so no idea:)
[00:36:59] <PetefromTn_> LOL yeah because she.......is WEEV!!
[00:37:09] <LeelooMinai> I guess dremel + one of those ceramic little disks would do the job too
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[00:37:46] <PetefromTn_> I hate those damn things... they break and explode at the blink of an eye
[00:37:47] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: http://ibin.co/1hbjOgxlRckr is this where it leaking from?
[00:38:03] <shaun413> anyone know how to clean up metal on old tools?
[00:38:10] <LeelooMinai> Yes, or you leave the rotary tool with them attached, step on it and boom - no disk
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[00:38:13] <shaun413> I have some miller falls stuff
[00:38:18] <shaun413> I want to refurb
[00:38:26] <shaun413> rust stains galore
[00:38:37] <PetefromTn_> get the abrasive fiber disks they are better and cut faster
[00:38:52] <_methods> electrolysis
[00:38:57] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4yYF8gSHdA Rust removal by Electrolysis
[00:38:59] <LeelooMinai> I have whole box of cutting disks for angle grinder
[00:39:01] <shaun413> hmm really?
[00:39:07] <shaun413> what kindof battery?
[00:39:14] <LeelooMinai> But angle grinder is a tool of death and destruction
[00:39:24] <PetefromTn_> http://blueroofdesigns.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/dremel-fiberglass-cutting-wheel.jpg
[00:39:29] <_methods> angle grinder should be renamed to skill grinder
[00:39:32] <_methods> much like skill saw
[00:39:46] <PetefromTn_> maybe try clamping your angle grinder with disk in a vise with some leather jaws?
[00:39:57] <LeelooMinai> Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PgkDp0E1io
[00:40:32] <PetefromTn_> what an azzhole..
[00:40:33] <zeeshan> LeelooMinai: why dont you leave your house
[00:40:33] <shaun413> what if its got wood on it?
[00:40:36] <LeelooMinai> Free hair cut:)
[00:40:37] <shaun413> cant electrolisis that
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[00:41:33] <zeeshan> today i had an explosion on the bill
[00:41:35] <zeeshan> *mill
[00:41:40] <CaptHindsight> cnc machine of the day https://www.buildyourcnc.com/jacobr.aspx
[00:41:41] <LeelooMinai> both? :)
[00:41:41] <zeeshan> one of the students
[00:42:09] <zeeshan> crashed a 3/4" end mill at 50 ipm along its full length
[00:42:11] <zeeshan> into the vise
[00:42:18] <_methods> sweet jesus is that a cardboard box on his z
[00:42:36] <_methods> oh nm it's just behind his cnc
[00:42:39] <PetefromTn_> where do you find these monstrosities?
[00:42:43] <zeeshan> that one
[00:42:47] <zeeshan> is a lot better than yesterdays
[00:42:47] <zeeshan> haha
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[00:42:59] <LeelooMinai> Yesterday was dried bubble-gum style
[00:43:11] <_methods> you can tell he uses it alot by all the wear on the table
[00:43:41] <LeelooMinai> What is that metal wheel with holes there for?
[00:43:58] <shaun413> elecrolysis wont damage the metal?
[00:44:04] <CaptHindsight> oh no! https://www.buildyourcnc.com/Item/cnc-machine-blacktooth-laser-cutter-engraver-40w#prettyPhoto
[00:44:04] <_methods> is that a computerless cnc router
[00:44:08] <LeelooMinai> Rotary encoder? P:)
[00:44:10] <_methods> i think he's missing the cnc part
[00:44:14] <_methods> it's just a router
[00:44:21] <CaptHindsight> laser cutter with wooden enclosure and frame
[00:44:30] <zeeshan> http://cdn.instructables.com/FIY/545C/GUS75B8D/FIY545CGUS75B8D.MEDIUM.jpg
[00:44:30] <zeeshan> ROFL
[00:44:34] <_methods> it's a wireless cnc router
[00:44:37] <zeeshan> i love these drawer slide cncs
[00:44:46] <LeelooMinai> Drawer slides!
[00:45:04] <CaptHindsight> features sturdy 2x4 framing
[00:45:12] <_methods> that won't catch on fire
[00:45:16] <zeeshan> wow
[00:45:19] <zeeshan> this is the most ghetto metal one
[00:45:20] <zeeshan> http://henriksplace.se/cnc/cnc_photos/pcbdrillold.jpg
[00:45:21] <zeeshan> rofl
[00:45:29] <_methods> is that the pipe guy?
[00:45:30] <zeeshan> does anyone else see a problem with that one
[00:45:31] <zeeshan> LOL
[00:45:44] <PetefromTn_> priceless an MDF laser CNC machine...
[00:46:24] <_methods> my favorite is still the pipe cnc guy
[00:46:39] <zeeshan> http://cdn.instructables.com/FFX/1MAM/F54HJ7SI/FFX1MAMF54HJ7SI.LARGE.jpg
[00:46:40] <zeeshan> this guy?
[00:46:58] <LeelooMinai> Well, at least pipe will not change shape with humidity
[00:47:01] <_methods> i kept waiting for sean connery and the other league of extraordinary gentlemen to show up
[00:47:37] <LeelooMinai> It looks ridiculous, but I think I would rather have frame from those pipes than wood:)
[00:47:51] <_methods> no the real pipe guy
[00:48:21] <_methods> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PSG2al1Sus
[00:48:22] <_methods> that one
[00:48:47] <shaun413> what can I use for power in electrolysis?
[00:48:52] <_methods> i don't know where CaptHindsight finds these guys
[00:49:01] <LeelooMinai> "it's going to be 3d printer" ...
[00:49:06] <_methods> humans attached to a matrix
[00:49:12] <shaun413> ll
[00:49:13] <_methods> they can power your electrolysis
[00:49:14] <CaptHindsight> pipe guy made this as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nGL8S4CmZs&list=UUXgE1q8JCCK7KbdDl4INrbA
[00:49:14] <shaun413> lol
[00:49:19] <shaun413> be srs
[00:49:22] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0KWimmYCzY The only CNC router homebuilt worth building....
[00:50:03] <_methods> peg board bed
[00:50:07] <_methods> why didn't i think of that
[00:50:17] <_methods> i'm suprised the 3dprintards haven't moved to that
[00:50:33] <LeelooMinai> It would be fun if after those closups of it engraving, the camera would zoom out and it would be a guy doing it by hand.
[00:51:27] <shaun413> _methods, why would we?
[00:51:30] <shaun413> peg board?
[00:51:32] <shaun413> what for
[00:52:32] <zeeshan> i like how we're calling hi mthe pipe guy
[00:52:32] <zeeshan> hahaha
[00:52:43] <_methods> he is the pipe guy
[00:52:44] <zeeshan> guy is serious business
[00:52:54] <Tom_itx> Jymmm's a little rusty with the ops
[00:53:03] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh4U4Bam-8s designed using SolidWorks
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[00:53:13] <_methods> he was ready to ban me pretty quick lol
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[00:53:27] <CaptHindsight> http://cockrum.net/cnc_mechanical.html
[00:53:44] <LeelooMinai> Hmm, those air cooling attachments - are they much less effective that liquid cooling setups? At what point one would need liquid cooling?
[00:54:02] <LeelooMinai> I mean cutter cooling, not spindle
[00:54:13] <shaun413> so..
[00:54:16] <shaun413> electrolysis?
[00:54:29] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGcQ-d2ymz8
[00:54:47] <PetefromTn_> that plywood is actually pretty stout looking...
[00:54:56] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: ?
[00:55:03] <CaptHindsight> shaun413: http://www.rickswoodshopcreations.com/miscellaneous/rust_removal.htm
[00:55:14] <_methods> LeelooMinai: depends on your spindle rpm
[00:55:25] <_methods> and spindle time
[00:55:26] <shaun413> I want to resotre the toola
[00:55:30] <shaun413> and not damage it
[00:55:52] <CaptHindsight> shaun413: can you save the wood?
[00:56:01] <LeelooMinai> I am asking because liquid versions seems to be major pita... One would need some kind of full enclosure for it.
[00:56:05] <shaun413> its attached with riveted collets
[00:56:11] <shaun413> idk if I can remove them
[00:56:35] <_methods> liquid cooling is superior for sure
[00:56:52] <LeelooMinai> Whereas air cooling seems doable to me - I would just need to run compressor house from the basement to my room:)
[00:57:02] <LeelooMinai> hose*
[00:57:21] <shaun413> so phosphoric acid vs electrolysis?
[00:57:25] <LeelooMinai> And maybe have compressor turn off/on remotely, but that's easy to do.
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[00:58:04] <LeelooMinai> But for light aluminum milling, air would do, right?
[00:58:07] <_methods> much easier to have a plastic tub full of water and a pump
[00:58:16] <_methods> right by your machine
[00:58:48] <LeelooMinai> _methods: That does not sounds easier... Sounds like sure way to make terrible mess.
[00:59:08] <shaun413> ^
[00:59:10] <_methods> it's up to you
[00:59:16] <_methods> people do it all the time
[00:59:26] <_methods> probably most people in here use liquid cooling
[00:59:44] <_methods> it's more expensive set up
[00:59:50] <_methods> but you get better performance
[01:00:06] <LeelooMinai> Could be overkill for my purposes
[01:00:09] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyg9U1YaVk8 Power Tool Drag Racing
[01:00:19] <_methods> you can get a spindle, vfd, and pump package for fairly cheap
[01:00:28] <_methods> still more than an air cooled set up though
[01:00:35] <shaun413> so
[01:00:41] <shaun413> whats less bad for metal
[01:00:46] <shaun413> acid or electrolysis
[01:00:49] <shaun413> for rust remove
[01:01:00] <CaptHindsight> they both remove rust and metal
[01:01:03] <LeelooMinai> Though I plan to enclose top of my machine anyways - in some kind of acrylic or polycarbonate box with light alu frame
[01:01:08] <shaun413> hmm
[01:01:10] <shaun413> ok
[01:01:22] <shaun413> which is cheaper
[01:01:23] <LeelooMinai> So nothing flies off and kills my cat for example
[01:03:07] <LeelooMinai> Right, electrolysis is easy and "magical" way for doing this
[01:03:24] <_methods> not magical
[01:03:33] <_methods> it's called chemistry
[01:03:34] <LeelooMinai> Well, "magical" in terms of effects:)
[01:03:37] <LeelooMinai> I know how it works.
[01:03:41] <shaun413> ok
[01:03:49] <shaun413> will it actually work?
[01:04:00] <shaun413> remove fine rust stains from the knurling and such
[01:04:02] <_methods> no it's all a joke to fool you shaun413
[01:04:15] <CaptHindsight> Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
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[01:04:46] <shaun413> can I use a 12v wall wart hooked up to alligator clips/
[01:04:47] <shaun413> ?
[01:04:50] <_methods> like pyramid schemes?
[01:04:56] <LeelooMinai> shaun413: Yes, it will work, if you follow instructions
[01:05:03] <shaun413> can I use a 12v wall wart hooked up to alligator clips/
[01:05:14] <LeelooMinai> shaun413: You need lots of amperes for this to work
[01:05:19] <shaun413> oh,,
[01:05:25] <shaun413> even for small bits?
[01:05:25] <_methods> actually less amps is better
[01:05:27] <PetefromTn_> yeah just like how that MDF laser cutter you posted just now will MAGICALLY catch on fire!!
[01:05:46] <LeelooMinai> shaun413: Tiny wall-wart will be probably like 500mA - not really something you would use for it.
[01:05:50] <_methods> you can damage the metal with higher amps
[01:05:58] <shaun413> so..
[01:06:05] <shaun413> it woont wrok?
[01:06:06] <shaun413> work
[01:06:07] <_methods> actually 500ma is good but i'd go for 30v
[01:06:09] <_methods> 24v
[01:06:17] <shaun413> I dont have that on hand
[01:07:30] <LeelooMinai> _methods: That sounds too low for me. Probably would take ages at that current, if you have something that is not tiny.
[01:07:43] <shaun413> its not that badly rusted
[01:07:43] <_methods> yes it takes longer but you can save metal
[01:07:47] <shaun413> I got a lot off already
[01:07:56] <_methods> metal that can be blasted off at higher amps
[01:07:56] <shaun413> just some stains kinda
[01:08:18] <_methods> then use a green scrub pad and some wd-40 you nipplehead
[01:08:29] <shaun413> green scrub?
[01:08:35] <Tom_itx> 3m pad
[01:08:41] <shaun413> heh?
[01:09:08] <Tom_itx> white is finer than green is finer than purple
[01:09:12] <shaun413> like a brillo?
[01:09:21] <shaun413> the blue scrubby thing?
[01:10:25] <Tom_itx> http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-11724/Scouring-Pads-and-Sponges/3M-96-Scouring-Pads?pricode=WY780&gadtype=pla&id=S-11724&gclid=CPPprI38gsICFQmPaQodPKYA5A&gclsrc=aw.ds
[01:11:07] <shaun413> damn thats not cheap
[01:11:10] <shaun413> 20 bucks?
[01:11:27] <Tom_itx> for a boxfull
[01:11:32] <shaun413> oh
[01:11:36] <Tom_itx> http://www.grainger.com/search?gclid=CNuojaL8gsICFYFDMgod10AAtQ&searchQuery=Abrasive+Hand+Pad&cm_mmc=PPC:+Google+Main+4-_-Abrasives%3EHand%20Pads%20And%20Sponges-_-Sanding%20Hand%20Pads%3EAbrasive%20Hand%20Pad%3EBroad-_-Abrasive%20Hand%20Pad&adgrpID=5115315278&kwdID=45530920598&ef_id=VFy5QQAABKswa-dU:20141118011054:s
[01:11:37] <shaun413> is that scotchbrite?
[01:12:48] <Tom_itx> more or less i suppose
[01:12:52] <shaun413> ok
[01:12:57] <shaun413> and that will take rust off?
[01:13:01] <shaun413> or fine stains?
[01:17:02] <CaptHindsight> shaun413: it's an abrasive, it works by removal of the material by rubbing the harder material over the softer material
[01:17:12] <shaun413> ok
[01:17:28] <CaptHindsight> the pads have a mix of polymer and abrasive
[01:17:38] <shaun413> can I put it on a dremel?
[01:17:57] <Tom_itx> not likely
[01:18:00] <shaun413> ok
[01:18:17] <CaptHindsight> there is a bit of common sense and feel involved
[01:18:31] <shaun413> ?
[01:18:33] <Tom_itx> or lack of
[01:19:35] <CaptHindsight> wire brushes (brass and steel) emery cloth, sand paper, scothcbrite pads, pumice (toothpaste) etc etc
[01:19:57] <shaun413> ok
[01:19:59] <shaun413> steel wool?
[01:20:54] <roycroft> there are scotchbrite disks for flexible shaft tools
[01:21:23] <LeelooMinai> shaun413: I would try electrolysis - you will spend a lot of time doing mechanical removal and may scratch the thing too much
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[01:21:36] <shaun413> ok..
[01:21:44] <shaun413> can I use a 12v wall wart?
[01:21:54] <roycroft> use a car battery charger
[01:21:54] <Tom_itx> i doubt it
[01:21:54] <LeelooMinai> You can try, but imho it will be slow
[01:22:03] <shaun413> i dont have a battery carger
[01:22:09] <roycroft> get one
[01:22:18] <shaun413> i wanted to avoid buying anything..
[01:22:19] <roycroft> you can find them inexpensively at harbor freight
[01:22:27] <roycroft> you can use your car battery
[01:22:35] <LeelooMinai> shaun413: You are buying time:)
[01:22:48] <roycroft> a 12v wall wart will take about a year
[01:22:57] <roycroft> and that might not be much of an exaggeration
[01:23:04] <shaun413> lol
[01:23:11] <shaun413> its not bad and tiny parts
[01:23:12] <Tom_itx> i doubt the wallwart is rectified good enough to work
[01:23:20] <roycroft> probably not
[01:23:21] <Tom_itx> probably half wave at best
[01:23:25] <roycroft> but that's easy to fix
[01:23:31] <_methods> old pc power supply
[01:23:34] <roycroft> i would get a car battery charger
[01:23:37] <shaun413> i have that
[01:23:41] <shaun413> atx
[01:23:44] <LeelooMinai> shaun413: Maybe you have old car battery? :)
[01:23:48] <shaun413> nope
[01:23:49] <_methods> old atx will work
[01:23:51] <roycroft> assuming you own an automobile it's something you should have anyway
[01:23:56] <shaun413> to the 12v?
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[01:24:01] <_methods> yep
[01:24:03] <_methods> 12v
[01:24:10] <shaun413> hmm
[01:24:14] <_methods> make sure you do it in a well ventilated area
[01:24:18] <shaun413> garage?
[01:24:28] <_methods> on 2nd thought do it in an enclosed space smoking cigars for me
[01:24:36] <shaun413> ..
[01:25:21] <roycroft> do not use stainless steel as the anode
[01:25:22] <_methods> personally i'd do it outside on a gfci outlet
[01:25:42] <shaun413> its raining
[01:26:46] <CaptHindsight> no smoking and don't pop the bubbles with a flame or lit cig
[01:26:55] <_methods> ehhe
[01:26:58] * roycroft removes rust in his garage, but places the electrolysis bucket inside a big plastic tub
[01:27:03] <CaptHindsight> as tempting as it might be
[01:27:05] <_methods> especially with an angle grinder
[01:27:15] <shaun413> aww why not
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[01:27:33] <Tom_itx> what is this thing you're restoring?
[01:27:36] <_methods> don't shoot angle grinder sparks at the bucket
[01:27:38] <roycroft> feel free to light up the bong while you're staring at the beautiful derusting operationg
[01:27:39] <CaptHindsight> if you do, be sure to record a video
[01:27:40] <LeelooMinai> Because explosiv gases and minor problems like that
[01:27:49] <shaun413> miller falls hand drill
[01:27:57] <Tom_itx> show us
[01:28:06] <shaun413> erg
[01:28:09] <roycroft> pics or it doesn't exist!
[01:28:09] <shaun413> like a rela pic?
[01:28:09] <_methods> bit and brace?
[01:28:11] <shaun413> real
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[01:28:26] <Tom_itx> is it worth 2-3 days discussion about it?
[01:28:28] <roycroft> you need before and after pictures anyway
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[01:28:41] <_methods> he still has weeks more of questiosn what are you talkin about
[01:28:41] <shaun413> well I already scrubberd some rust off
[01:28:54] <roycroft> anything is worht a 2-3 day discussion, as long as people discuss it for that long
[01:28:58] <_methods> s/questiosn/questions
[01:29:01] <shaun413> http://ct-web2.unh.edu/lee/Brace-8.jpg
[01:29:03] <shaun413> this one
[01:29:08] <shaun413> I want it to look like that
[01:29:09] <shaun413> hot damn
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[01:29:22] <shaun413> oh no
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[01:29:42] <roycroft> you're supposed to take the before pictures before you take the after pictures
[01:29:50] <shaun413> not mine
[01:29:58] <roycroft> now you have to go leave it out in the mud for a year and start over
[01:30:09] <shaun413> thats not my pic
[01:30:27] <Tom_itx> but you just posted it!
[01:30:29] <CaptHindsight> spray it with some bleach
[01:30:36] <shaun413> its the same drill
[01:30:55] <Tom_itx> i had one of those once
[01:31:29] <_methods> when you're tanaka dies that's all you got lol
[01:31:52] <roycroft> they come in handy other times as well
[01:32:33] <_methods> one handed
[01:32:51] <shaun413> ..
[01:33:08] <shaun413> want me to take a real pic?
[01:33:08] <_methods> drill through a telephone pole with a bit and brace with one hand
[01:33:10] <roycroft> you can drill holes with a spoon bit that are almost impossible with any other setup
[01:34:10] <_methods> http://www.arkansas-ope.com/TANAKA_TED-262L.jpg
[01:34:26] <_methods> hehe bit and brace upgrade
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[01:42:06] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: http://www.wired.com/2009/12/wiredcom-diy-ev-gets-motor/
[01:42:19] <shaun413> j
[01:42:20] <shaun413> k
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[01:46:09] <CaptHindsight> 7kW DIY electric motor made of wood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUGi50F_bwc
[01:46:15] <shaun413> https://www.dropbox.com/s/yddbkeel3q1cmfd/IMG_20141117_203609.jpg?dl=0
[01:46:22] <shaun413> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1elokwdlm9hk02o/IMG_20141117_203621.jpg?dl=0
[01:46:28] <shaun413> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9mlm8gqiuvnom97/IMG_20141117_203626.jpg?dl=0
[01:46:51] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j53FIHP3bPw even bigger one 11.5KW
[01:46:55] <XXCoder> wow
[01:47:01] <shaun413> ?
[01:47:02] <XXCoder> just read the sex spam here lol
[01:47:25] <Tom_itx> in it's entirety?
[01:47:36] <XXCoder> not really just did fast draft read
[01:47:39] <_methods> hahah
[01:47:59] <shaun413> so theres the pic
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[01:49:27] <shaun413> of the drill?
[01:51:12] <Tom_itx> that's barely broke in
[01:52:43] <PetefromTn_> Jeez that looked freakin' dangerous....LOL
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[01:54:03] <_methods> the tanaka?
[01:54:04] <shaun413> Tom_itx, i cleaned it
[01:54:06] <shaun413> see all the..
[01:54:08] <shaun413> RUST?
[01:54:18] <shaun413> it was BADD
[01:54:23] <shaun413> got most off but
[01:54:39] <shaun413> http://www.yankeetoys.org/lee/drill-1.htm
[01:54:41] <PetefromTn_> no that DIY plywood high HP electric motor...
[01:54:43] <shaun413> ^ i wanna do this to it
[01:54:46] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYEdD94vH0 V8 solenoid engine
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[01:58:17] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGeSIM_8BHY Radial Engine Bug
[01:58:27] <shaun413> any ideas...?
[01:58:49] <_methods> i feel sorry for the bearings in that thing
[02:00:07] <_methods> wow propane powered rotary vw
[02:00:09] <_methods> that's nutz
[02:01:40] <XXCoder> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2834916/Squirrel-makes-tree-man-s-GoPro-camera.html
[02:02:04] <_methods> Hitler originally had this in mind, but Ferdinand talked him out it due to parking concerns.
[02:03:03] <XXCoder> I still find it stunning funny and ironic that hippies use vw as peace car
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[02:07:55] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9zt3SF_Flc World's Smallest running v8 engine
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[02:10:42] <shaun413> i took thosepics for you guys..
[02:10:45] <shaun413> and no help:/
[02:10:54] <Tom_itx> help came first
[02:11:02] <CaptHindsight> naval jelly
[02:11:23] <shaun413> ?
[02:11:32] <shaun413> is that for your belly button?
[02:11:48] <Tom_itx> no silly
[02:12:00] <shaun413> oh
[02:12:07] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5viRjEs-4tE NAVAL JELLY RUST REMOVER
[02:13:10] <shaun413> does it work?
[02:13:15] <shaun413> will it work for what u see?
[02:13:20] <Tom_itx> get some and try it
[02:13:24] <shaun413> hmm
[02:13:29] <shaun413> you see what my goal is?
[02:13:35] <shaun413> how can I make it shine like that
[02:13:50] <CaptHindsight> now we have given you the advice, now it's your turn to go to work
[02:13:50] <Tom_itx> take it all apart and have it re'chromed
[02:14:06] <shaun413> hmm I cant really do that.. and its nickel
[02:14:19] <Tom_itx> ok well have it nickel plated
[02:14:20] <shaun413> unless I can plate it myself
[02:14:58] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHBIlz5Pt5g Nickel Plating, Do it Yourself
[02:15:03] <Tom_itx> http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/loctite-naval-jelly-rust-dissolver-1381191/10196906-P?jadid=55934329885&jap=1t1&jkId=gpt:pt_134962&js=1&jsid=34339&jt=1&jr=http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/loctite-naval-jelly-rust-dissolver-1381191/10196906-P
[02:16:36] <CaptHindsight> Spray on chrome kit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvtRYZ5EasA
[02:16:48] <XXCoder> easy on easy off
[02:17:00] <shaun413> i dont really want to chrome it..
[02:17:06] <shaun413> its 100 years old
[02:17:49] <roycroft> chrome is overrated
[02:17:55] <shaun413> yes
[02:18:01] <shaun413> i just want it to look clean
[02:18:02] <roycroft> a nice nickel plating is much better for most things
[02:18:06] <shaun413> yeah
[02:18:43] <CaptHindsight> How to Dry Brush with Silver Paint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egPFjAmZZfU
[02:19:15] <XXCoder> wow what a crappy videp
[02:19:22] <shaun413> i dont want to paint it..
[02:20:34] <CaptHindsight> Plasti Dipping Hand Tools https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqy06Y4AR2Q
[02:20:38] <shaun413> ...
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[02:23:28] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: interesting video part went suddenly shiny lol
[02:23:47] <CaptHindsight> down to 7F, have to stoke the furnace
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[02:24:49] <shaun413> heh
[02:24:54] <shaun413> so naval jelly and thats it?
[02:25:02] <shaun413> what can I do to polish it up a bit
[02:25:29] <XXCoder> check online fot that tool first. sometimes wear is what makes it valuable
[02:25:39] <shaun413> meh
[02:25:41] <XXCoder> for example, NEVER polish coin collection
[02:25:42] <shaun413> not rust...
[02:25:45] <shaun413> i know that
[02:25:48] <shaun413> Im a numismatic
[02:25:49] <shaun413> :p
[02:26:01] <_methods> i bet you are
[02:26:03] <XXCoder> im guessinmg it means coin collectopr?
[02:26:04] <shaun413> I am
[02:26:12] <shaun413> i have a huge silver collection
[02:26:26] <_methods> oh i thought you said spastic
[02:27:08] <shaun413> ...
[02:27:21] <shaun413> yeah XXCoder
[02:27:21] <_methods> what's your address
[02:27:40] * shaun413 sighs
[02:27:40] <_methods> or the address of your silver collection
[02:27:47] <shaun413> 221b baker street
[02:27:59] <shaun413> london, england
[02:28:07] <XXCoder> and safe #? probably 1,2,3,4,5 just like that president's luggage lock number an certain planet's air sheild access #
[02:28:24] <shaun413> 1123456
[02:28:35] <shaun413> 123456
[02:28:44] <shaun413> or is it 123412 idr
[02:29:57] <XXCoder> lol
[02:30:12] <XXCoder> anyone got reference? :P
[02:30:16] <XXCoder> its pretty old movie
[02:30:57] <shaun413> yes
[02:31:11] <shaun413> spaceballs..
[02:31:22] <XXCoder> lol
[02:31:27] <XXCoder> "I'm my own best friend"
[02:31:31] <shaun413> ha
[02:31:39] <shaun413> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k
[02:31:42] <shaun413> ref^
[02:32:17] <shaun413> lmfao
[02:32:29] <XXCoder> no captions but I know whats being spoken anyway
[02:32:36] <shaun413> LOL
[02:32:46] <shaun413> i love this movie
[02:32:57] <XXCoder> me too
[02:32:59] <PetefromTn_> http://www.gizmag.com/lightning-electric-superbike-2013-pikes-peak/28296/ amazing...
[02:33:15] <shaun413> ha
[02:33:21] <shaun413> gets stuck in the door at the end
[02:33:22] <shaun413> Lol
[02:34:25] <XXCoder> "your schwartz is as big as mine"
[02:34:33] <XXCoder> not sure if correct but badically lol
[02:34:47] <XXCoder> basically
[02:35:50] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjVatNQr-GM
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[09:20:04] <Deejay> hrhr
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[12:48:48] <Tom_itx> http://i.imgur.com/qex6WYq.jpg
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[13:23:50] <malcom2073> hah
[13:24:30] <malcom2073> If I hear one more person say "zomg wd40 is water displacement, not lubracating"... I'ma shoot someone.
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[13:26:13] <archivist> but but that is what the letters stand for and was the design spec
[13:26:34] <malcom2073> Might as well shoot myself, it's not gonna stop :P
[13:28:25] <archivist> I have has the misfortune to see people using it as a lube....
[13:29:21] <archivist> the worst place is a clock, it has a drying oil
[13:30:50] <SpeedEvil> It is a lube
[13:30:54] <SpeedEvil> To a degree
[13:31:02] <SpeedEvil> Water is a lube, as is blood
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[13:33:06] <XXCoder> yeah
[13:33:18] <XXCoder> as all lubes, theres right uses and wrong uses
[13:33:28] <XXCoder> wd40 isn't very good for long term
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[13:34:27] <pcw_home> Sulphuric acid is used a a lubricant for chlorine compressors
[13:35:21] <pcw_home> not suggested for general use
[13:35:37] <XXCoder> oh and all those horror movies monsters that glisten or stuff? all xy lube normally used for sex. lol
[13:35:41] <XXCoder> you're welcome.
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[13:37:47] <malcom2073> petrolium jelly has a hundred uses
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[13:52:29] <toxx> since a while i cannot initially home in axis sim. Buttons are greyed out.
[13:52:38] <toxx> any ideas?
[13:53:22] <kengu> power on, emergecy stop off?
[13:53:26] <toxx> i tried to remove any old configs, because I used some weired configs with machinkit
[13:53:36] <toxx> power on, shure
[13:54:06] <toxx> if i home by home-key, just the x-achsis moves and gets homed
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[13:56:14] <toxx> if i choose y-axis and home it, it says: 'Cannot home while shared home switch is closed'
[13:56:58] <toxx> this appears with any sim-config I tried
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[14:00:27] <toxx> I tried different versions, 2.5.x and 2.6.x, all the same
[14:00:38] <toxx> Im using debian sid
[14:01:14] <toxx> compiled from git
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[14:02:38] <pcw_home> Hmm if I chose axis sim and press the home button it works
[14:04:01] <_methods> wtf is this machinekit
[14:04:29] <toxx> mybe there is some bad configfile from an old installation left and i erased the linuxcnc folder, but still..
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[14:05:12] <toxx> http://www.machinekit.io/ experimental fork
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[14:05:44] <archivist> _methods, a fork
[14:05:54] <archivist> a forkin fork
[14:05:59] <_methods> oh jeebus
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[14:06:29] <archivist> which fails to document itself or help its users by the look of it
[14:06:47] <_methods> i keep reading shitty articles about it
[14:06:53] <_methods> but they all keep coming here for help
[14:07:07] <_methods> don't they have a machinekit room or something
[14:07:30] <archivist> I do think they are avoiding support
[14:07:54] <toxx> im using linuxcnc at the moment, not machinekit
[14:08:05] <archivist> it is trivial to create a freenode channel
[14:08:24] <malcom2073> _methods: they use google groups
[14:08:36] <malcom2073> I asked about a irc channel, they said the groups were wonderful and amazing etc etc
[14:08:41] <_methods> heheh
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[14:09:00] <toxx> error message says:
[14:09:11] <toxx> TCL error in asynchronous code:
[14:09:11] <toxx> wrong # args: should be ".toolbar.program_step cmd ?arg ...?" while executing
[14:09:11] <toxx> ".toolbar.program_step" invoked from within
[14:09:11] <pcw_home> which sim hal file are you using? the ones I tried had a home all button
[14:09:39] <toxx> axis, axis_mm
[14:10:04] <archivist> lathe,mill or what
[14:10:07] <pcw_home> and what did you do to trigger the bug?
[14:10:54] <toxx> config: sim.axis-axis basic demo mill
[14:12:45] <toxx> when linuxcnc starts, "home all", "touch off" "spindle" keep greyed out, even after emergency off and power on
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[14:14:50] <toxx> and I get the error in the console: http://pastebin.com/ZCvBqVZD
[14:15:00] <pcw_home> I can get the complaint about shared home switch but home all always works the first time
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[14:16:27] <toxx> if i home via home-key, only x moves, y and z says: 'Cannot home while shared home switch is closed'
[14:17:08] <pcw_home> hmm all axis home here
[14:17:41] <_methods> you said you had machinekit installed?
[14:18:58] <cradek> toxx: that sim config has its (fake) home switches configured in a tricky way. if you use home all, it'll home
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[14:19:14] <pcw_home> move off the simulated home switch and try again...
[14:19:20] <cradek> yeah or that
[14:19:32] <cradek> check out the "shared home switch" configuration option in the manual
[14:19:42] <pcw_home> its a learning tool :-)
[14:19:55] <cradek> your sim is set up that way, it's only tricky and incomprehensible because you can't SEE the home switch
[14:20:09] <cradek> if your real machine was that way, what to do would be quite intuitive
[14:22:28] <toxx> i just wonder why it doesnt work with factory setup
[14:22:31] <pcw_home> watch axis.0.home-sw-in, axis.1.home-sw-in, axis.2.home-sw-in to see whats going on
[14:22:41] <pcw_home> it does work
[14:23:13] <pcw_home> it just happens to be sitting in the home switches
[14:23:28] <pcw_home> s/in/on/
[14:23:57] <toxx> sorry, I don't get it
[14:25:09] <toxx> shure i could fiddle withthe config, but shouldn't it work out of the box? It used to ever since...
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[14:26:31] <pcw_home> home-all works for me
[14:26:57] <pcw_home> estop off, machine on,home all
[14:27:07] <toxx> is there any key for home-all, not just x y z?
[14:27:20] <pcw_home> yep on mine there is
[14:27:29] <toxx> estop off, machine on,home button still greyed out
[14:27:50] <pcw_home> starting from scratch?
[14:28:04] <toxx> erased ~/linuxcnc
[14:28:27] <toxx> config from /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/examples...
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[14:30:48] <pcw_home> not sure what vintage those are, I just selected axis from the sim section in the linuxcnc config chooser
[14:31:57] <toxx> ok, i managed to home all with ctrl-home :)
[14:32:08] <toxx> but buttons are still greyed out :(
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[14:33:06] <toxx> ok, running the g-code switche buttons on now
[14:34:02] <pcw_home> I cant duplicate that with a standard install, axis sim config from chooser
[14:35:21] <toxx> restart linuxcnc, same as before, switched on but greyed out. MDI doesn't take input even after homing
[14:35:46] <toxx> after running g-code, everything is fine
[14:37:49] <toxx> so that procedure works for me as a workaround, thanks for the hint with the keyboard shortcut for homing-all. Didn't knew that
[14:42:01] <toxx> but I still don't know the reason. what does the error output i posted in pastebin above?
[14:42:56] <pcw_home> Not sure, doesn't happen here
[14:43:18] <pcw_home> maybe something funny about your install
[14:43:38] <toxx> maybe tcl 8.6.0 from debian sid?
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[14:44:38] <pcw_home> not sure
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[14:48:53] <toxx> by the way, is it possible to configure two different probes, one for tool lenght, one for work piece?
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[14:56:58] <Jymmm> HEY! We've been doing this all wrong!!! There's no need for LinuxCNC, Mills, Lathes, etc... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMWxLCGY0U
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[15:09:10] <malcom2073> haha the comments
[15:09:15] <malcom2073> especially the valium one.
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[15:25:04] <Jymmm> malcom2073: I NEVER read Youtube comments
[15:26:15] <malcom2073> You should occasionally. How else can you retain a lack of faith in humanity as a whole? :P
[15:26:15] <malcom2073> s/retain/maintain
[15:26:16] <Jymmm> malcom2073: I get a dose of dumbassery of humanity on a daily basis IRL
[15:26:33] <malcom2073> Heh, I don't work with end users, so I'm typically ok there
[15:27:17] <Jymmm> malcom2073: Neither do I, just walk out my front door. I'm STILL trying to figure out WHY homicide is illegal *shrug*
[15:29:00] <Jymmm> Man, I need to get me some of these...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7-DHbdHX3U
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[15:29:15] <Jymmm> Got to find them in QTY=1 =)
[15:31:17] <malcom2073> adafruit has them, 32 leds for $30, I'm sure yo ucan find it cheaper
[15:31:41] <Jymmm> malcom2073: These are ADDRESSABLE, not just RGB
[15:32:12] <malcom2073> I know
[15:32:14] <Jymmm> k
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[15:32:43] <Jymmm> And it's teh CONTROLLER I'm after, not the strips. I just found it for $25, still looking though.
[15:33:38] <Jymmm> I'm loving the RF mono and RF RGB controllers. They work REALLY well.
[15:34:11] <malcom2073> Ah, yeah dunno if you can get the controller seperate besides making your own
[15:34:19] <Jymmm> You can
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[15:35:39] <Jymmm> $10 for IR, $25 for RF
[15:40:21] <_methods> hehe i set them up wifi
[15:40:26] <_methods> with that ESP8266
[15:41:13] <_methods> got a 5m strip for the xmas tree
[15:41:43] <_methods> wrote a web controller and android app to control the lights color and pattern lol
[15:42:31] <Jymmm> I doubt I'd be playing with a xmas enough that I need wifi or it's own website.
[15:42:53] <_methods> i just spun up a vm for the website
[15:42:57] <_methods> on my local network
[15:43:07] <Jymmm> doesn't matter =)
[15:44:03] <_methods> heh its mainly for the wife so she can change the tree color to whatever she wants
[15:44:10] <_methods> whenever the mood strikes her
[15:44:11] <_methods> lol
[15:44:32] <Jymmm> SUUUUUUUUUUUURE it is. And how many times has she changed it since you first did this?
[15:44:37] <_methods> hahahah
[15:44:40] <_methods> once
[15:44:47] <Jymmm> Exactly
[15:44:47] <_methods> but the tree is not up yet
[15:44:53] <jdh> tie it to her body temp.
[15:44:59] <_methods> buwhahahha
[15:45:04] <_methods> that's a great idea
[15:45:09] <_methods> mood lights
[15:45:18] <Jymmm> Yeah, if you want a divorce that is =)
[15:45:23] <_methods> hehe
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[15:45:47] <Jymmm> or blue balls, your choice
[15:46:16] <Jymmm> or tired of hearing her voice.
[15:46:27] <Jymmm> or want to spend quality time with the dog
[15:46:36] <_methods> my brain has already learned to block those audio patterns
[15:47:24] <Jymmm> We can tell, as you have the time to make xmas tree websites
[15:47:35] <_methods> heheh
[15:47:47] <Jymmm> =)
[15:48:36] <Jymmm> What I did was wrap a RGB led strip up a 16ft fishing pole. Looks REALLY cool and bright as hell.
[15:48:58] <Jymmm> 5m is the perfect length
[15:49:10] <_methods> yeah i need to get some more 5m strips
[15:49:20] <_methods> but they're kinda spendy so i've been spacing them out
[15:49:24] <Loetmichel> *gna* whoever had designed that mercedes E-cklass 230cdi caravan front should be shot... took me 20 minutes out in the cold and rain (in tshirt) to chage the H7 bulb on my bosses car... and now my hands are scratecd and nearly broken to reach that stupid bulb... :-(
[15:50:12] <jdh> Loetmichel: I spent 45 mins one freezing day with 3 other people, one a GM mechanic trying to replace my headlight bulb on a yukon
[15:50:12] <_methods> but lights are on hold i want one of those 40 position tool posts for my lathe now
[15:50:13] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: And why were you in the RAIN in a tshirt?
[15:51:21] <_methods> one of those
[15:51:24] <_methods> http://www.lathes.co.uk/multifix/
[15:52:30] <jdh> that's a helluva tool holder
[15:52:58] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: because i thought "thats a wuick one, no need to put the jackt on"... i thought... ;-9
[15:53:15] <_methods> yeah i've always just used aloris style
[15:53:18] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: LOL, I hear ya =)
[15:53:23] <_methods> but i found that the other day and now i want one lol
[15:53:43] <archivist> I used to use a multifix
[15:53:56] <archivist> ok for manual lathes
[15:53:59] <_methods> way better than a plain old aloris style
[15:54:03] <_methods> yeah it's for manual
[15:55:33] <_methods> i've never seen one here in a shop in the states
[15:55:33] <archivist> the fast change is ok but holder costs is silly
[15:55:40] <_methods> yeah they are spensive
[15:55:49] <_methods> it's swiss lol
[15:55:59] <_methods> they gotta fill their banks somehow
[15:56:26] <_methods> you can only make so much money off watches and yodeling
[15:56:38] <archivist> we had two posts but were fighting over the 4 iirc holders
[15:57:05] <archivist> one on the bosses lathe http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2008/2008_10_07_Richards_of_Burton_clockworks/P1010236.JPG
[15:57:10] <_methods> the boring bar attachment looks pretty cool too
[15:57:47] <_methods> the adjustable bar holder
[15:58:25] <_methods> yeah that's it
[15:58:34] <_methods> nice little lathe
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[15:58:55] <_methods> i need that collet chuck attachment liek that for mine
[15:59:54] <archivist> on that lathe it is just a drawbar
[16:00:14] <_methods> drawbar collet
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[16:00:30] <_methods> need to pick that up for mine
[16:00:32] <archivist> one I used used the same collets http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2008/2008_10_07_Richards_of_Burton_clockworks/P1010237.JPG
[16:01:43] <archivist> but did have a settable closer so was better for production
[16:01:56] <_methods> yeah way nicer setup
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[16:02:22] <_methods> except the rocker post lol
[16:02:40] <archivist> but is never came home when that site closed, boss kept it
[16:03:02] <_methods> that's agreat lathe i would have too lol
[16:03:25] <archivist> only one schaublin came home an old vm120
[16:03:47] <archivist> oops 120 VM
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[17:35:46] <CaptHindsight> the thread about Screw Mapping on the ML is the longest I've seen in such a short time
[17:36:40] <zeeshan> ??
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[17:37:13] <archivist> I think mapping the error that way is sometimes the wrong thing to do
[17:37:34] <CaptHindsight> it's like watching IRC in email
[17:38:04] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: do you subscribe to the ML?
[17:38:09] <zeeshan> whats ml
[17:38:13] <zeeshan> so no :)
[17:38:17] <CaptHindsight> mail list
[17:38:24] <zeeshan> no
[17:38:27] <zeeshan> you guys are old school
[17:38:28] <zeeshan> :-)
[17:39:34] <CaptHindsight> you miss out on lots of fun by just using IRC
[17:40:09] <CaptHindsight> at least we haven't moved to facebook for updates and info
[17:40:29] <zeeshan> i use forums and irc
[17:40:56] <CaptHindsight> the ML goes back to 03'
[17:41:29] <zeeshan> i was looking closely at the wires for my limit switches today
[17:41:33] <zeeshan> none of them are shielded factory
[17:41:54] <zeeshan> i guess 24V signals aren't as susceptible to noise
[17:42:10] <CaptHindsight> are you using 12V or 24V logic? well there you go
[17:42:32] <CaptHindsight> if you have problems with noise you're doing something wrong
[17:42:41] <zeeshan> the glass scales wires are all shielded though
[17:42:46] <zeeshan> i guess cause theyre 5v signals
[17:43:10] <CaptHindsight> I worked on a RF welder once where the noise would effect the 24V logic
[17:43:32] <zeeshan> when we talk about noise
[17:43:38] <zeeshan> are we talking about noise as in..
[17:43:49] <zeeshan> RF spectrum noise?
[17:44:00] <zeeshan> or is it harmonics travelling up from the ground
[17:44:06] <archivist> any noise not just RF
[17:44:11] <jdh> or is it 80's metal?
[17:44:17] <zeeshan> jdh haha
[17:44:29] <zeeshan> well the purpose of shielding for example a wire
[17:44:46] <archivist> spikes can be as bag
[17:44:48] <archivist> bad
[17:44:49] <zeeshan> is to shiled against electromagnetic noise emissions right?
[17:44:56] <zeeshan> *shield
[17:45:14] <zeeshan> so say you're passing a signal wire next to a transformer
[17:45:25] <archivist> hummmmmm
[17:45:29] <jdh> heh
[17:45:42] <zeeshan> the changing mag field will induce a current on the wire?
[17:46:13] <zeeshan> makes sense in my head :P
[17:46:15] <archivist> we had a nois amp that had a toroid next to the pcbs it was a terror to get into spec
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[17:46:40] <zeeshan> so its a function of distance too
[17:46:56] <zeeshan> my toriod on the lathe sits right next to the computer motherboard
[17:47:02] <archivist> distance angle and how it is induced
[17:47:02] <zeeshan> im not sure how it's not owning things up
[17:47:10] <CaptHindsight> it was 27MHz 5KW, and 2 feet from the PLC
[17:47:12] <zeeshan> yea i think i remember from physics class
[17:47:20] <zeeshan> 90 degree induces no current
[17:47:27] <zeeshan> 90 degree magnetic field that is
[17:47:53] <jdh> I have a welder that would shake monitors 10ft away
[17:48:02] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: so i guess i should use my tig welder in hf mode
[17:48:08] <zeeshan> or plasma cutter :-) near the cnc machines!
[17:48:24] <zeeshan> well now that i think about it -- i guess most of the noise will be deflected by the case
[17:48:26] <CaptHindsight> it's a good test of how well you built it
[17:48:29] <zeeshan> kinda like a farady cage
[17:48:46] <zeeshan> cause i vaguely remember that charge travels on the surface
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[17:50:10] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15201418193/
[17:50:18] <zeeshan> dear pcw sorry to ask you this
[17:50:21] <zeeshan> but where are the grounds?!?!
[17:51:25] <jdh> why do you want grounds
[17:51:43] <zeeshan> the other end of the switches goes to ground
[17:51:45] <zeeshan> or common
[17:51:56] <zeeshan> these are pull up inputs?
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[17:53:05] <jdh> oh, I thought they were differential from your +/-, not two switches.
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[17:53:19] <zeeshan> i know someones wired a mesa before
[17:53:23] <zeeshan> howd you handle your sensor grounds
[17:53:33] <zeeshan> field power's ground terminal to a ground block?
[17:53:38] <zeeshan> din mounted?
[17:54:21] <jdh> I have a ganged terminal strip of ground
[17:58:06] <pcw_home> +24V power --> switch --> input
[17:58:18] <zeeshan> oh
[17:58:19] <zeeshan> i have it backwards
[17:58:31] <zeeshan> are inputs pull up?
[17:59:21] <pcw_home> inputs pull down (you must drive high)
[17:59:43] <zeeshan> oh
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[18:01:24] <zeeshan> so i think i did my e-stop wrong. i currently have it as +24v -> e-stop s/w -> coils for contactors in parallel -> ground
[18:01:33] <zeeshan> how would i extract a signal high from that
[18:02:07] <zeeshan> maybe use the auxillary block on one of thee contactor
[18:02:08] <zeeshan> ?
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[18:08:07] <James628> psha.org.ru domain expired.... camview related stuff gone ...at least temporarily
[18:08:46] <CaptHindsight> James628: it's down quite often and camview has no active devs
[18:08:55] <CaptHindsight> people are moving to openCV
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[18:11:25] <zeeshan> man i love automationdirect now
[18:11:29] <zeeshan> free shipping to even canada
[18:11:32] <zeeshan> for orders more than 45$
[18:11:38] <zeeshan> they'll also handle the brokerage so you dont get raped over the border
[18:11:47] <zeeshan> and it takes 2 days to get my parts
[18:11:54] <zeeshan> cant ask for anything more,.
[18:12:34] <jdh> I get next day from mcmaster
[18:12:54] <zeeshan> f mcmaster
[18:12:58] <zeeshan> and their anti-canadian behaVIOR
[18:12:59] <jdh> unlike some people taht get same day.
[18:13:12] <jdh> it's a business decision, not personal.
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[18:13:30] <jdh> and you mispelled behaviour
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[18:13:54] <CaptHindsight> oh a new speel checker!
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[18:19:20] <jdh> it was funny, eh?
[18:19:21] <zeeshan> jdh you can spell it both ways
[18:19:43] <zeeshan> i use the queen's english
[18:19:43] <zeeshan> :-)
[18:19:55] <zeeshan> only sometimes!
[18:20:06] <zeeshan> i have to always watch out to write "behaviour"
[18:20:10] <zeeshan> and colour and not color
[18:20:17] <zeeshan> big deal :/
[18:20:29] <CaptHindsight> lift vs elevator?
[18:20:37] <jdh> just amusing that you would put 'anti-canadian' and then spell american behavior
[18:21:10] <zeeshan> jdh it was to grab your attention :p
[18:21:17] <jdh> I don't believe you.
[18:21:21] <jdh> even with the caps
[18:21:27] <zeeshan> it was on purpose!
[18:21:36] <zeeshan> it was an ironic statement
[18:22:12] <jdh> I just my $21,000 worth of software in a tiny box.
[18:22:21] <zeeshan> ?!
[18:22:38] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: did you see the VW with the radial engine?
[18:22:44] <zeeshan> no
[18:23:11] <jdh> I actually got it yesterday, it was just so small I didn't notice it.
[18:23:21] <CaptHindsight> this one is also great https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhYEdD94vH0 solenoid V8
[18:23:46] <zeeshan> is that made out of copper
[18:23:47] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGeSIM_8BHY Radial Engine Bug
[18:23:51] <zeeshan> that cam
[18:24:00] <zeeshan> "homemade from scrap metal and wood, odds and ends, bits and bobs."
[18:24:04] <zeeshan> this guys been robbing copper!
[18:24:17] <zeeshan> that v8 is bad ass
[18:24:37] <CaptHindsight> pointless but fun
[18:24:55] <CaptHindsight> well it does show how a V8 works
[18:25:06] <zeeshan> that radial engine guy
[18:25:07] <zeeshan> is nuts
[18:25:09] <zeeshan> :D
[18:25:10] <CaptHindsight> heh
[18:25:16] <zeeshan> i like it
[18:25:57] <James628> Capt: thanks, any links/docs to openCV related cam solution for linuxcnc?
[18:26:44] <CaptHindsight> James628: it's in the works, you can install openCV and play with the samples and demos
[18:27:06] <CaptHindsight> but nothing integrated yet that ties into HAL
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[18:32:46] <_methods> http://hackaday.io/project/2434-microwave-aluminium-printing
[18:32:48] <_methods> hahah
[18:34:12] <_methods> they used alum cans to hold the molten alum......
[18:34:19] <_methods> can't see how that could go wrong
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[18:36:24] <CaptHindsight> "and no danger to humans." I lost some brain cells reading that
[18:41:18] <Rab> Microwave furnace, huh?
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[19:09:08] <_methods> hehe yeah the ole microwave furnace trick
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[19:13:04] <CaptHindsight> http://postimg.org/image/6u1oyorb9/full/ Cincinnati Milacron 10VC-1000 Mesa 7I80, 7I44, 7I49, 7I70, 7I71, 7I73 Boards, Asrock MB, AMD A4 CPU,and a Kingston SSD
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[19:16:10] <_methods> nice
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[19:18:06] <_methods> big improvement over acramatic lol
[19:18:28] <PCW> I think I would have used different cate5 cable colors
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[19:25:37] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: PANDUIT!!! =)
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[19:27:20] <Jymmm> PCW: Nah, I would have just labeled/numbered them
[19:30:02] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Looks great!
[19:30:22] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: What chassis/cabinet are you using?
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[20:09:13] <Nick_name> hi there
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[20:23:02] <PCW> hey there ho there, you're as welcome as can be
[20:23:32] <PetefromTn_> yes indeedy do...
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[22:08:22] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:18:49] <andypugh> SpeedEvil: http://bodgesoc.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/heat-treatment-furnace.html
[22:18:56] <andypugh> I will get the wire in the post tomorrow.
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[22:19:53] <Connor> andypugh: What is that for ?
[22:20:26] <andypugh> heat-treatment
[22:22:02] <Connor>  (not too right, breaking the element is annoying)
[22:22:20] <Connor> shouldn't that be: TIGHT ?
[22:25:45] <andypugh> Yes.
[22:26:04] <andypugh> I was typing the blog entry while a seat-supsension spring was soaking.
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[22:27:59] <andypugh> psha.org.ru seems to have expired, that’s annoying
[22:28:53] <Jymmm> Wasn't that Alex?
[22:29:00] <Jymmm> alex_joni: yo dude!
[22:29:41] <andypugh> No, psha.org.ru is Pavel Shramov, who had an IRC logger running there.
[22:30:13] <Jymmm> ah, I still blame alex. But I blame him for everything.
[22:30:16] <andypugh> logger[psha] is still running in fact.
[22:30:27] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: not mine, I forget his nick, he retrofits older big iron
[22:30:41] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: gotcha
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[22:35:27] <andypugh> Of course, no sooner had I finshed the furnace but I needed to heat something longer, so I made a temporary and dangerous lash-up: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3NCEt5OGEPHdjlvJ1mJRO9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[22:36:27] <andypugh> (I did insulate _one_ of the 240V 100+°C wires :-)
[22:38:35] <Nick001-shop> At least you have a brick wall in case it gets away from you How's your ceiling -)
[22:38:50] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzIS_0iSJWY
[22:39:29] <andypugh> There is nothing much flammable in the workshop. I supose the roof joists are, but the tiles are clay, and the walls are brick.
[22:40:35] <Nick001-shop> Your insurance co would be ticked to see that pic
[22:44:04] <andypugh> It was all relatively safe really.
[22:44:17] <andypugh> You should see what I found in the house when I bought it.
[22:45:00] <andypugh> Thus was behind the cooker on a 40A breaker (1mm2 wire) https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aVix6Ieq9A6_sN8cUQsO6NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[22:45:56] <andypugh> Note how the earth is screwd down onto the insulation, the live is alongside the screw and the neutral was also alongside the screw, and has melted.
[22:46:13] <andypugh> There was something wrong on the other side too.
[22:47:27] <PetefromTn_> jeez man I hate to see pics like that. It is amazing what shitty contractors are capable of sometimes
[22:48:51] <andypugh> I think that was by the previous owner. Even the worst contractor would have swapped the breaker for one matching the wire, I think. (access and visibilty wasn’t great).
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[22:49:52] <PetefromTn_> having done a lot of custom cabinetry installations in some older homes I am never surprised at what passes for a PRO electrical installation around here.
[22:50:28] <andypugh> And you run at twice the current too.
[22:50:49] <andypugh> (I am amazed you allow wire-nuts, I just can’t see them being any good at all)
[22:51:20] <PetefromTn_> well I dunno but they are everywhere here
[22:51:32] <DaViruz> we use wire nuts in sweden too. i dont particularly like them, but i've never seen one fail
[22:52:01] <Connor> Wire Nuts, are 100% accepted here..
[22:52:18] <andypugh> We typically use http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/ASJ301.JPG (which I am not extatic about either)
[22:52:29] <Connor> My house.. which was built in the 60's had the wires SOLDERED and wrapped in electrical tape.
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[22:53:02] <Connor> How would you use that in a wall box if you needed to join more than one wire ?
[22:53:08] <DaViruz> http://www.kjell.com/resources/sv-se/fraga_kjell/hur-funkar-det/elelektronik/starkstroem/15-normcentralen/15-4_klaemmor.jpghttp://www.kjell.com/resources/sv-se/fraga_kjell/hur-funkar-det/elelektronik/starkstroem/15-normcentralen/15-4_klaemmor.jpg
[22:53:12] <DaViruz> i prefer the center one
[22:53:19] <DaViruz> not sure what it's called in english
[22:53:50] <PetefromTn_> https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5747722155741347649/5832691227122998306?pid=5832691227122998306&oid=108164504656404380542 This is so cool man
[22:55:05] <andypugh> PetefromTn_: Full write-up if you want to do one: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general-metalworking-machines/172314-cnc.html
[22:56:07] <andypugh> DaViruz: I see that the right-hand ones are available in the UK, but I am not sure I trust them.
[22:56:31] <PetefromTn_> yeah at some point I will either find a good deal on a used commercial fourth axis or build something like that. I love that you can tilt it.
[22:56:38] <DaViruz> wago 222 are quite nice also
[22:56:42] <DaViruz> but can be a bit bulky
[22:56:47] <andypugh> Connor: Not sure :-) Typically you join wires in the switch terminals.
[22:57:46] <andypugh> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Manufacturers/Wago_Connectors/Wago/index.html (but I have never seen one used)
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[23:00:33] <DaViruz> andypugh: 40A on 1mm2 by the way, is that on a ring?
[23:00:40] <DaViruz> still seems a bit hefty to me
[23:01:13] <DaViruz> i thought uk standard was 32A on 2.5mm2 in a ring
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[23:03:11] <andypugh> No, it was a spur dedicated to the cooker. It is sized correctly up to the switch-unit above the counter, but then shrinks to little wire to the cooker (which is only 13A). The breaker is now 16A and the wire is bigger.
[23:03:31] <DaViruz> oh.
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[23:04:15] <andypugh> Yes. 32A rings is normal. I don’t think rings are clever either. They are an efficient use of wire, but if the ring is broken then you only have half the capacity you think you have, and you can’t tell there is a problem.
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[23:05:24] <DaViruz> i do like the concept of fused plugs though
[23:05:32] <PetefromTn_> http://i.imgur.com/9PWabl5.jpg my personal rifle's Picatinny rail riser..... What do you guys think? any opinions or suggestions? It is not finished but getting there
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[23:08:18] <andypugh> It ony needs three setups, you should machine from the bottom too :-=)
[23:08:34] <PetefromTn_> well its funny you mention that
[23:08:51] <PetefromTn_> the bottom will be getting 3d radiused to fit the profile of the receiver which is round
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[23:09:20] <PetefromTn_> the part will be drilled and tapped onto the tube in the spaces between the oval holes
[23:10:14] <andypugh> If (as I suspect) you are showing off, why not engrave numbers for each slot? (pointlessly, I know)
[23:10:32] <PetefromTn_> showing off LOL?
[23:10:56] <andypugh> I am guessing it is at least partly a demo piece?
[23:11:01] <PetefromTn_> I am just getting my head wrapped around 3d design work there is no room for showing off
[23:11:31] <PetefromTn_> this will be for my personal rifle which is kinda known for being hard on scopes
[23:11:40] <PetefromTn_> so the picatinny rail profile is necessary
[23:12:02] <andypugh> You need to invent a shock-absorbing rail :-)
[23:12:04] <PetefromTn_> the other thing is it is known for barrel droop and mine exhibits that so it needs to have a droop compensated angle
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[23:12:11] <PetefromTn_> already been done
[23:12:26] <PetefromTn_> in fact I just received a first version of one made by RWS
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[23:12:37] <PetefromTn_> it rides on rails round rails
[23:12:54] <PetefromTn_> but it is kinda smallish and short
[23:13:08] <PetefromTn_> and it does not give any droop compensation
[23:13:51] <PetefromTn_> this rail is going on my personal rifle as I said but if others like it and want one....so be it LOL
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[23:14:31] <andypugh> Did you see my bit of gunsmithing? https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/Sniper?authkey=Gv1sRgCJ6K36Pg5_T5ew
[23:14:55] <andypugh> It’s actually a laser rifle, but has a copy of the Lee Enfield bolt and trigger just for fun
[23:14:55] <PetefromTn_> do you like the design? have any criticisms witticisms?
[23:15:28] <PetefromTn_> seriously?
[23:15:43] <PetefromTn_> does it actually fire a laser or is it just a gag...
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[23:16:03] <andypugh> It fires an LED, technically.
[23:16:26] <PetefromTn_> man all that work for a fancy laser pointer hehe looks nice tho
[23:16:33] <andypugh> It’s for a friend who plays http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_tag
[23:17:10] <PetefromTn_> aah
[23:17:12] <PetefromTn_> neat
[23:17:32] <PetefromTn_> this is for an overblown pellet rifle for Field Target Competition.
[23:18:32] <andypugh> It’s a sniper rifle, but if you just pull a switch and can spray photons around it doesn’t feel right, so we made it deliberatley single-shot and with a bolt action to re-arm to get the “feel” right.
[23:21:05] <PetefromTn_> Kewl..
[23:21:22] <andypugh> I used to enjoy target shooting as college, but the other guys in the gun club were a bit strange.
[23:21:53] <PetefromTn_> were they strange or were you LOL
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[23:23:21] <JT-Shop> what does Twitter do?
[23:23:51] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: You post a message (tweet) and all your followers get it.
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[23:24:20] <JT-Shop> so like facebook then
[23:24:31] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: No.
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[23:24:45] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: It's like a mass broadcast
[23:25:22] <JT-Shop> what's the purpose of that?
[23:25:42] <Tom_itx> gives you immunity to what you say
[23:25:47] <andypugh> If you have to ask you wouldn’t understand. (I don’t understand)
[23:25:54] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: You could tweet that you have a new product for you spider group
[23:26:04] <JT-Shop> ah ok
[23:26:08] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Or that the ride has been canceled
[23:26:30] <Tom_itx> or that there's free beer at the man cave this weekend
[23:27:03] <andypugh> Did I mention that a pro photographer I know took some shots of my Ner-a-Car?
[23:27:22] <Tom_itx> not that i recall
[23:27:23] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: tweet ---> FREE BEER AT Tom_itx, Sat 6pm
[23:27:30] <andypugh> A lot more arty than mine: http://www.beautifullytold.com/ner-a-car/
[23:29:13] <DaViruz> that sparkplug connector looks nasty
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[23:30:07] <andypugh> It’s Authentic
[23:30:39] <DaViruz> i meant nasty as in easy to get zapped
[23:30:45] <PetefromTn_> nice photos and some great work on the neracar andy
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[23:31:30] <DaViruz> i enjoyed reading through the restauration log
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[23:32:52] <andypugh> Today I have been heat-treating the seat leaf spring, you can see how it sagged in the photos.
[23:33:28] <andypugh> The saddle was drooping quite a lot when I got home, leading to a tendency to slide foraward, which wasn’t too nice.
[23:33:36] <Tom_itx> was that english made originally?
[23:33:40] <andypugh> Yes.
[23:33:48] * Tom_itx notes the seat was made in usa
[23:33:52] <andypugh> It was a US design, made under license in the UK.
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[23:34:13] <andypugh> I couldn’ find the “Gough’s” seat, and some used Messinger.
[23:34:46] <PetefromTn_> http://www.canibeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Kam_Waswani_Honda_Ruckus_21.jpg you need to customize it like this hehehe.. Just kidding...
[23:34:47] <andypugh> The UK and US versions of the bike look almost identical, but actually have almost no parts in common.
[23:35:37] <andypugh> JT-Shop: (especially) this has to be the most stupid nod ever: http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/mcy/4754345589.html]
[23:37:40] <andypugh> What was he thinking? The unpowered extra wheel isn’t even articulated.
[23:38:13] <PetefromTn_> gosh that is a disaster
[23:38:26] <andypugh> (It probabably only corners at all because as the shock compresses the swingarm angle lifts the spare wheel off the ground)
[23:38:33] <PetefromTn_> he must not like turning too well I guess
[23:38:53] <Tom_itx> 51" snow in NY
[23:38:59] <Tom_itx> 70+ expected
[23:39:30] <PetefromTn_> the sad fact is that was once an amazingly fast and nimble superbike. Now it is a laughable joke.
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[23:40:29] <andypugh> Well, the Hayabusa was never all that nimble, though it isn’t as fat sa it looks.
[23:40:38] <andypugh> I prefer my R1 thought.
[23:41:04] <andypugh> The weather here is strangelky mild, I haven’t even turned the heating on yet.
[23:41:42] <zeeshan> http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2014_47/772841/141118-snow-joseph_video-1254_f2d31a4bc378ef6d646a06d327227325.nbcnews-ux-1760-900.jpg
[23:41:42] <zeeshan> wow
[23:41:44] <zeeshan> that a COOL pic
[23:42:13] <JT-Shop> giant wheely bar
[23:42:42] <PetefromTn_> I rode one once and I was actually surprised at how nimble it is.
[23:42:59] <PetefromTn_> The R1 of course is MORE nimble
[23:43:12] <PetefromTn_> have you seen the new Kawasaki H2?
[23:43:24] <andypugh> the turbo? I want one :-)
[23:43:38] <PetefromTn_> its blown but not turbo
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[23:43:43] <PetefromTn_> supercharged.
[23:43:51] <PetefromTn_> supposed to have like almost 300 HP
[23:43:56] <PetefromTn_> INSANE
[23:44:30] <PetefromTn_> it has a neat little blower that fits where carbs used to sit
[23:45:03] <PetefromTn_> funny thing is I would probably rather have that lowered scooter I just posted...
[23:45:19] <andypugh> You need help :-)
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[23:46:17] <PetefromTn_> probably
[23:46:34] <PetefromTn_> personally despite its obvious power I think it is ugly as shit...
[23:46:50] <andypugh> I think I would want more frame with 300hp, actually
[23:47:31] <PetefromTn_> the new R1M I think it is called looks promising.
[23:49:52] <andypugh> The H2R looks a lot better than the H2, the H2 exhaust is _foul_
[23:50:55] <PetefromTn_> I know it is probably juvenile and sick and I don't understand it either but I actually quite like those custom Ruckus scooters....LOL
[23:53:25] <andypugh> The R1s have been becoming steadily uglier since the 2004 model. When mine dies I expect to just buy another 2004.
[23:53:42] <PetefromTn_> I agree..
[23:53:44] <andypugh> It’s still just about fast enough.
[23:53:54] <PetefromTn_> The first ones were clean lined
[23:54:06] <PetefromTn_> they got more and more annoying as time progressed.
[23:55:17] <PetefromTn_> If I could find another 1992 FZR1000 in great condition like I used to have I would try to buy it.
[23:55:21] <PetefromTn_> http://www.bikez.com/pictures/yamaha/1992/9279_0_3_3_fzr%201000_made%20by%20Tonis.jpg
[23:58:32] <andypugh> One practical advantage the R1 has over the FZR is _really_ good lights.
[23:58:58] <andypugh> I have 4 x HIDs on mine, the road dries out when I turn them on :-)
[23:59:00] <PetefromTn_> there are probably a lot of advantages.......it is basically a COMPLETELY different bike
[23:59:27] <PetefromTn_> I always felt like it was a much more comfortable and forgiving machine than the R1 is.