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[01:18:37] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, ever use a tracing arm on a cnc?
[01:18:48] <tjtr33> it plots a 2D program, just a stick out on the axis carrying the wkpc, over a pc of paper.
[01:18:59] <tjtr33> IF you put a pc of paper down with a reflective area, the machine could read the reflection
[01:19:01] <tjtr33> and a HAL or Ladder function could react to the 'fence'
[01:19:31] <tjtr33> maybe useful for your request for extra 'limits'
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[01:32:42] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: lets say you have a system with a T shaped work envelope vs a rectangular or spherical
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[01:38:29] <tjtr33> yeah, so a pc of paper would have shiny where the T was _not_, and an opt pickup would notice if the current posn was shiny or not, and do 'something' accordingly
[01:39:10] <tjtr33> ( first, do you get how the pencil ploter works as a simple arm on the joint holding the workpiece? )
[01:39:16] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: it needs to be programmable based on the DRO
[01:39:42] <CaptHindsight> I can do it with external logic
[01:39:55] <tjtr33> numerical? then its 'inside the boundry' time with Hal.
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[01:40:56] <tjtr33> maybe ladder, but i goto hal before ladder, but thats just me
[01:41:19] <CaptHindsight> they are starting to use Linuxcnc for controlling all sorts of automation, so it's going to come up soon
[01:41:53] <tjtr33> yeah, externbal logic can read the scales simultaneous and issue ok/nokay
[01:42:13] <CaptHindsight> it's been less work to work with EMC than to write a new app just to control some custom machine
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[01:43:53] <tjtr33> have you triggered Linuxcnc to run a pgm from some external signal?
[01:44:35] <tjtr33> i suppose just external start btn would do that
[01:44:46] <tjtr33> but i havent done it mahsef
[01:47:20] <tjtr33> halui.program.run bit in pin for running a program
[01:47:27] <tjtr33> easy peasy
[01:48:10] <tjtr33> and monitor halui.program.is-running bit out till its done
[01:48:13] <CaptHindsight> laboratory automation
[01:49:36] <tjtr33> hehe just peeked at some arduino labview stuff, they have arduino modules now for graphic programming
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[02:54:57] <skunkworks_> mach3 single index threading works just fine... But won't be added to mach4 - if at all it will use an encoder..
[02:54:59] <skunkworks_> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,27194.msg195962.html#msg195962
[02:57:13] <skunkworks_> (printer port)
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[06:52:24] <Deejay> moin
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[09:43:32] <archivist> zeeshan, a toy for you
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=141376268678&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160
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[10:05:02] <kfoltman> does it double as A nema34 motor mount? ;)
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[13:05:08] <cncbasher> guys anyone have a oneshot timer ?
[13:05:57] <cncbasher> loadrt oneshot count = 1
[13:05:57] <cncbasher>
[13:05:57] <cncbasher> addf oneshot.1 servo-thread
[13:05:57] <cncbasher>
[13:05:57] <cncbasher>
[13:05:58] <cncbasher>
[13:05:58] <cncbasher> #set one shot timer in sec
[13:05:59] <cncbasher> setp onshot.1.width 6
[13:05:59] <cncbasher>
[13:06:00] <cncbasher> net machine-is-enabled => oneshot.1.in
[13:06:00] <cncbasher> net machine-is-on1 <= oneshot.1.out
[13:06:01] <cncbasher> net machine-is-on1 hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.output-07
[13:06:29] <cncbasher> i tried the above without success
[13:06:56] <cncbasher> i need to have a timer to hold the switch on for 6 sec
[13:07:33] <cncbasher> this is using the machine on button and then output to a pin to pull a contactor for 6 sec
[13:07:58] <cncbasher> so where have i gone wrong
[13:10:06] <archivist> halscope the input see if it is triggered
[13:10:52] <archivist> is it edge or level triggered?
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[13:10:53] <cncbasher> i seem to get an error in syntax
[13:11:33] <cncbasher> it's using the start button in axis , so i presume level
[13:12:24] <cncbasher> unless i'm looking at this problem the wrong way
[13:12:26] <archivist> the doc says edge
[13:13:20] <archivist> default is trigger on rising edge
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[13:24:43] <cncbasher> yea things not working how i presume them to work so may need another route
[13:25:11] <cncbasher> either that or the syntax i am using is wrong
[13:25:26] <archivist> cncbasher, you near Doncaster?
[13:25:49] <cncbasher> abt 70 - 90 north
[13:25:55] <cncbasher> hartlepool
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[13:27:05] <archivist> well I remembered north of me, I have a delivery to do on Monday around Doncaster somewhere
[13:27:47] <cncbasher> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/40773
[13:30:55] <cncbasher> yea it's about another 45min to an hour further
[13:37:58] <archivist> or one of those 2v4 oneshots designed for control cabinet use
[13:38:03] <archivist> 24v
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[14:55:56] <tjtr33> cncbasher, 6secpulse.txt
http://pastebin.com/p0cWUhkS oneshot6sec.hal
http://pastebin.com/Qx079diQ oneshot1.ui
http://pastebin.com/4YrkEYt6
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[14:56:19] <tjtr33> gets you a 6 sec pulse on trgr ( the gui is tiny, easy to misplace ;)
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[14:57:03] <tjtr33> i had built 2 cascaded oneshots for edm ontime/offtime, and hacked it, runs fine here
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[16:14:43] <cncbasher> thanks
[16:14:55] <tjtr33> +*art
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[16:18:43] <tjtr33> np
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[16:32:42] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
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[16:44:08] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, are you retired now? congratulations!
[16:44:35] <IchGuckLive> yes
[16:44:42] <Deejay> so you have too much time now?
[16:44:48] <tjtr33> i thought you were offline for 5 years. have fun!
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[16:45:13] <IchGuckLive> the phone contract runs till 30th
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[17:20:49] <IchGuckLive> not to many post here today
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[17:39:51] <IchGuckLive> im off bye
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[17:49:07] <zeeshan> archivist: says shipping only to uk :{
[17:51:52] <archivist> its about 30miles from me, I could collect and ship dunno costs though
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[18:00:53] <archivist> I like to be able to measure
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221518810156 I won
[18:02:46] <zeeshan> 99 cents
[18:02:46] <zeeshan> wow
[18:03:01] <zeeshan> congrads!
[18:09:14] <SpeedEvil> Awesome.
[18:09:29] * SpeedEvil refrains from jokes about rubbers.
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[19:27:57] <CaptHindsight> looks like a Durometermometer
[19:29:44] <archivist> different name for the same thing
[19:32:48] <CaptHindsight> archivist: what scale is on it?
[19:33:05] <archivist> dunno till I fetch it
[19:33:47] <archivist> I have a little hand held IRHD one I got from a scrap yard
[19:34:37] <archivist> it says my watch strap is 37 International Rubber Hardness Degrees
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[20:05:08] <6JTAA6FBT> any opinions on a "good yet cheap" touch probe?
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[20:05:30] <skunkworks> make your own?
[20:06:15] <Loetmichel> its easy
[20:06:46] <Loetmichel> you only need a medium ballbearing, some single sided PCB material and a cnc mill
[20:07:05] <Loetmichel> and a few wires and pins
[20:07:08] <zeeshan> i thought most touch probes had a bit of flex.
[20:07:16] <zeeshan> so you dont crash your spindle
[20:07:28] <Loetmichel> ... and ONE spring
[20:07:36] <skunkworks> yes - they flex by design...
[20:07:37] <zeeshan> theyre cheap buy
[20:08:12] <anarchos> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Touch-probe-cmm-digitizing-renishaw-haas-fadal-cnc-mill-lathe-router-engraver-/161352724525?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25915f302d
[20:08:20] <Loetmichel> skunkworks: i would opt for an electronic one
[20:08:27] <skunkworks> http://www.pkm.org.ua/2011/07/cnc-touch-probes-review.html
[20:08:36] <zeeshan> anarchos2: are you looking for a digitizing probe
[20:08:41] <zeeshan> or just simple touch probe
[20:08:50] <zeeshan> for setting up work piece coordinate
[20:08:54] <anarchos> well, depending on price i could go either way
[20:08:58] <skunkworks> Loetmichel: what do you mean?
[20:09:06] <zeeshan> a mechanical edge finder is like 10$
[20:09:10] <Loetmichel> skunkworks: like the ebay link
[20:09:10] <zeeshan> and works really well
[20:09:18] <Loetmichel> but selfbuilt
[20:09:28] <anarchos> a digitizing probe would work for finding WPC as well might be nice
[20:09:45] <zeeshan> ive been looking at digitizing probes for inspection
[20:09:45] <zeeshan> :P
[20:10:04] <skunkworks> I agree - a kinematics style are awesome
[20:10:16] <skunkworks> (6 balls - 3 pins)
[20:10:42] <Loetmichel> its really easy, you only need a few ball bearing balls, a pice of PCB with 6 holes, a piece of plastic that holds 3 allen screws with the heads 120° apart and a spring thet presses the plastic into the pcb with the balls
[20:10:51] <Loetmichel> so that the allen screws do the connection
[20:10:57] <Loetmichel> from ball to ball
[20:11:21] <skunkworks> I started to make one - then found a renishaw knockoff on ebay for cheap
[20:11:35] <Loetmichel> then put a ball on hte end of a steel pin, screw it in the opposite side of the plastic pice and voila: Diy reinsahw
[20:12:09] <anarchos> skunkworks, have an url?
[20:12:29] <anarchos> also, what software to use for digitizing?
[20:12:56] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/probe/DSCF1507%5b1%5d.jpg
[20:13:24] <skunkworks> anarchos: linuxcnc does probing/digitizing just fine..
[20:13:31] <anarchos> ah i see
[20:13:33] <anarchos> cool
[20:13:35] <skunkworks> that was bought a few years ago
[20:14:40] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9i4DbwZrKI
[20:16:49] <anarchos> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-Digitizing-Probe-NEW-High-Accuracy-Barrel-Design-for-stepper-motor-machines-/291161285932?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ca90a52c
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[20:32:21] <tjtr33> skunkworks, that looks so Buck Rogers
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[20:32:50] <skunkworks> heh
[20:39:50] <tjtr33> http://preview.turbosquid.com/Preview/2014/05/20__08_45_13/raygun_sig_1200.jpg039777a7-0405-4598-b2a0-4f3f70e5c2efOriginal.jpg
[20:40:56] <skunkworks> love how it has an analog meter on it..
[20:59:41] <Deejay> gn8
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