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[01:14:32] <skunkworks> seb_kuzminsky: 'Thanks for the head's up. I think it's ready for merging, especially after the latest fixes. The only unknown right now is if we want INI settings vs. HAL pins. There was a patch for that a while back, but I haven't done anything with it recently.'
[01:14:38] <skunkworks> ^ rob
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[01:17:42] <memleak> if 3.10 support hits vulcano branch if it hasnt already, that will break linuxcnc too.
[01:18:38] <memleak> kernel 3.10 support that is
[01:19:28] <memleak> if kernel 3.12 or 3.14 demands changes to RTAI, then linuxcnc rtapi code will need to be adjusted yet again to comply with the new code.
[01:20:00] <memleak> luckily for linuxcnc, RTAI support hasnt gotten that far yet.
[01:20:50] <memleak> so far it's only proc that needs to be changed. it will also be easier what in linuxcnc needs to be changed once the rtai linuxcnc branch goes live.
[01:21:34] <memleak> i think it will make development a lot easier for the rtapi devs once i get everything sorted out.
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[01:25:18] <memleak> a very easy to track git repo with minimal changes throughout
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[05:05:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 05seb/new-tp-tests 13092e2 06linuxcnc 10tests/trajectory-planner/circular-arcs/nc_files/quick-tests/arc-arc-sawtooth.ngc add missing M2 to ngc file * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=13092e2
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[05:59:25] <asah> any ideas why my rtlib dir is only full of .so and not .ko ?
[05:59:37] <asah> spinning up a new 32 bit 12.04 ubu box.
[05:59:47] <asah> rsynced accross my linuxcnc git repo.
[05:59:50] <asah> make clean.
[06:00:06] <asah> have the rt preempt kernel built fine.
[06:00:40] <asah> for some reason hostmot2.ko is not being built at all.
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[06:33:58] <memleak> asah, modbus support enabled w/ libmodbus installed?
[06:34:30] <memleak> ./configure output should tell you
[06:34:50] <asah> yes
[06:35:11] <asah> I have no .ko files in rtlib
[06:35:20] <asah> and hostmot2 does not build
[06:36:26] <memleak> post output of config.log to pastebin or similar
[06:39:46] <asah> http://pastebin.com/iM568PdF
[06:42:58] <memleak> ah!
[06:42:59] <memleak> checking whether to build usermode PCI hardware drivers... no; depends on libudev
[06:43:00] <memleak> configure: WARNING: Usermode PCI drivers will not be available
[06:43:34] <memleak> are you using debian based distro?
[06:44:33] <asah> ubuntu
[06:45:24] <memleak> what version?
[06:46:04] <asah> 12.04
[06:46:26] <asah> looks better: checking whether to build usermode PCI hardware drivers... default enabled for userland RT threads
[06:46:34] <memleak> sudo apt-get install libudev-dev && sudo apt-get build-dep libudev0
[06:46:34] <asah> (installed libudev-dev)
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[06:47:49] <memleak> yeah that was why
[06:48:00] <asah> thanks!
[06:48:14] <memleak> i dont understand why debian based distros dont just include the headers..
[06:48:25] <memleak> they're not that big on HDD space
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[07:06:19] <asah> yay!! thanks… worked...
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[13:49:01] <seb_kuzminsky> memleak: you dont need to install the build-deps for libudev0
[13:49:25] <seb_kuzminsky> installing libudev-dev provides everything you need to compile stuff that uses libudev
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[17:51:14] <asah> so, thanks to memleak, and pcw I now have the 7i80 up and running off my small crummy laptop.
[17:51:53] <asah> my max servo jitter is 50000 or so.
[17:52:03] <asah> on a 1 ms servo thread.
[17:52:20] <asah> using rt preempt
[17:53:00] <asah> getting lots of weird results from ssi reads.
[17:53:10] <asah> thinking pll is the issue.
[17:53:33] <asah> any thoughts on ways to improve latency?
[17:53:48] <asah> 50000 seems high compared to the latency test dataset.
[17:55:36] <pcw_home> actual latency seen by the 7I80 will be higher, can you plot the latencty the DPLL sees?
[17:55:51] <pcw_home> latency
[17:56:26] <asah> yep
[17:56:38] <asah> its peaking at 60-70 or so
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[17:58:53] <pcw_home> you should get a 15 to 1 or so noise reduction in the DPLL so SSI sampling
[17:58:55] <pcw_home> jitter should be maybe 5 usec max, what issue to you see in the SSI?
[17:58:59] <asah> a few spikes to like 80 or 130
[17:59:11] <asah> (in the dpll)
[17:59:20] <asah> ssi is pushing out really really large numbers.
[17:59:31] <asah> so thought it may not be reading the whole thing.
[17:59:39] <pcw_home> luckily the spikes dont affect the DPLL much
[17:59:44] <asah> ok.
[18:00:16] <pcw_home> (though a forest of spikes will cause baseline wander)
[18:00:40] <pcw_home> (you can see this in the plot)
[18:02:13] <pcw_home> with the current tuning the DPLL has a ~ 1 Hz bandwidth so pretty good at rejecting jitter
[18:02:36] <asah> the count values in the ssi position.count are really large and negative.
[18:02:43] <asah> this is a 32bit system now.
[18:02:53] <pcw_home> sounds like a bug
[18:03:01] <asah> looks like potentially 64bit - > 32 bit int issue?
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[18:04:41] <pcw_home> maybe, there are definitely some bugs remaining in hm2_eth or maybe UBC
[18:05:17] <pcw_home> (this is of the same vintage UBC with the latency test bug)
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[18:05:54] <asah> in theory this is your same rt.config
[18:05:58] <asah> untouched.
[18:06:21] <asah> you have not perhaps used ssi in this env though.
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[18:07:11] <pcw_home> No, this is the first time this has been tried
[18:07:40] <asah> schweeet
[18:07:43] <pcw_home> I somewhat suspect a math library issue
[18:08:23] <pcw_home> Do the numbers change appropriately
[18:08:27] <pcw_home> ?
[18:08:29] <asah> there is this section of the code in sserial.c where the u32 buffer gets pushed into a uint 64. looking there.
[18:08:39] <asah> the numbers do seem to increase and decrease on movement.
[18:08:58] <asah> (agwn is sitting next to me as well as we work on this, so he may chime in on this)
[18:09:21] <pcw_home> sserial is not involved
[18:09:30] <asah> crossing zero is a bad thing.
[18:09:40] <asah> sserial is the ssi interface we are using.
[18:10:26] <pcw_home> ? sserial is not related
[18:10:32] <asah> around 1400
[18:10:39] <asah> I promise you it is.
[18:10:50] <asah> this is where the ssi read code lives.
[18:11:21] <asah> around 1440 there is a comment // sign extend buff into buff64
[18:11:49] <pcw_home> Oh Andy reused some of the code (its not really related to sserial at all)
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[18:12:23] <pcw_home> sign extension is a likely culprit
[18:21:08] <asah> looks like it may be greycode differences? the graycode may be bad.
[18:22:07] <asah> ok… I am an idiot… yet again.
[18:22:10] <asah> bad config.
[18:22:20] <asah> =)
[18:22:38] <pcw_home> OK well thats good news!
[18:23:32] <asah> yes it is!
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[19:09:58] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Norbert Schechner 05master df92a97 06linuxcnc Merge branch '2.6' of ssh://norbert@git.linuxcnc.org/git/linuxcnc.git * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=df92a97
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[19:14:17] <cradek> jthornton: is
https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/348/ fixed?
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[19:18:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Chris Radek 052.6 2374e3e 06linuxcnc 10scripts/linuxcnc.in 10src/emc/task/emctask.cc More removal of noise from nonerrors, following todo-2.6 #26 * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=2374e3e
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[19:42:04] <seb_kuzminsky> i think all bug reports should include a phrase like "it goes *donk*"
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[19:48:50] <cradek> are you making fun of my bug-reporting skills?
[19:49:08] <seb_kuzminsky> no!
[19:49:09] <seb_kuzminsky> yes...
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[20:53:00] <memleak> XD
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[21:07:11] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: yeah, i didn't realize we had threads.0 when i openend #349
[21:12:22] <seb_kuzminsky> it was sloppy of me, but it's nice to find out something i want is already there
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[22:03:48] <cradek> it may not be as perfect a test as you'd like, but it sure does detect that problem
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[22:04:18] <cradek> something slow in the slow thread (between those two functions) would make it trigger in no time
[22:04:28] <cradek> er in the fast thread, I mean
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[22:20:44] <seb_kuzminsky> yeah
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