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[07:16:16] <malte__> Hi huys
[07:16:19] <malte__> *guys
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[10:56:41] <mourner> hey everyone
[10:56:52] <b_b> lo mourner :)
[10:59:25] <Komzpa> miu!
[11:00:37] <ybon> hey mourner :)
[11:01:03] <mourner> how's going?
[11:01:07] <b_b> how it is @mapbox mourner ?
[11:01:23] <mourner> working on complete TileLayer refactoring now
[11:01:34] <b_b> great to hear it
[11:02:12] <mourner> b_b: it's great — finally I can allow myself not to worry about anything and just do awesome stuff with maps, work on Leaflet, various JS experiments etc.
[11:02:24] <b_b> sweet
[11:02:30] <ybon> hehe, nice
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[11:05:10] <ybon> mourner: have you tested the new version of uMap, including clustering, contextmenu, and many refactoring, Leaflet spirit:
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/test-with-new-version_2964 ? :)
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[11:06:23] <ybon> (talk@ annoucement:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2013-November/068629.html )
[11:06:34] <b_b> hey ybon, i'm just tilting now
[11:06:53] <mourner> ybon: nice, will check it out
[11:06:55] <b_b> but maybe you hear some foghorns form you boat sometime
[11:07:21] <b_b> if you got or make sound recording of it =>
http://cornes.debru.me/
[11:07:22] <ybon> b_b: sure
[11:07:33] <b_b> we got many contacts sine 2 weeks
[11:07:56] <ybon> oh, fun
[11:08:11] <b_b> from people working at "phare & balises" in france, norway and gb too
[11:08:30] <mourner> ybon: so now we have 3 services that overlap with its premise a bit: UMap,
http://mapbbcode.org/ and
http://geojson.io/
[11:09:10] <ybon> yep :)
[11:09:40] <ybon> We all already who will last ;)
[11:11:55] <ybon> btw, b_b, I'm selling my boat, if you know someone interested
https://yohanboniface.trovebox.com/photos/album-3/list ;)
[11:12:06] <ybon> Gonna buy a smaller one
[11:12:30] <ybon> Just like Leaflet philosophy: every step should make me lighter
[11:12:33] <b_b> hmm a frien of spip was looking to a boat years ago, but not anymore i think
[11:12:43] <b_b> anyawy i'll talk about it around me ;)
[11:12:52] <ybon> thanks :)
[11:18:51] <ybon> mourner: btw, we still have the "crossing date line" thing open :s
[11:19:13] <ybon> Sounds like the last optimization steps are a bit over my javascript skills
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[11:28:14] <ybon> Is there someone with IE8 around by chance?
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[11:31:37] <icetan> perl: hej
[11:31:38] <b_b> got one in a virtualbox
[11:31:54] <b_b> what do you want me to test ybon ?
[11:32:17] <ybon> b_b: any error on this page
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/visitguernsey_2486#16/49.4556/-2.5351 ?
[11:32:34] <ybon> I'm also running it through BrowserStack, but can't see any error
[11:32:43] <ybon> but the polylines are not shown
[11:33:01] <b_b> no error form my sode
[11:33:13] <b_b> don't see polylines too
[11:33:33] <ybon> the fact is sometimes the dev tools of IE8 goes in tilt and just say "L is not defined"
[11:33:45] <ybon> but when I close the dev tools I see the map
[11:33:50] <ybon> so L is defined ;)
[11:33:56] <ybon> IE8 way of debugging
[11:34:10] <b_b> hehe
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[11:35:13] <ybon> and polylines were there two days ago ;)
[11:35:35] * ybon will look at the commits in between, just in case I see the light
[11:35:42] <ybon> (the IE light is dark to see)
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[11:52:42] <mourner> ybon: yeah, I'll look into it again after we do some projections/CRS API refactoring with perl
[11:56:55] <ybon> great :)
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[11:57:44] <ybon> It tooks me 5 seconds to understand that you were not talking about adding some perl scripting in Leaflet :)
[11:57:59] <ybon> (hi perl so :) )
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[12:03:52] <perl> lol
[12:04:20] <perl> yeah, given that I try to keep as far away from perl as possible, my nick isn't the best
[12:04:28] <ybon> :)
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[13:44:20] <Hk_> Hi, i'm using the API for a school project, and i can't figure out how to make a click event on a marker. I'd like to center the map on the popup opened after clicking on any marker placed on the map.
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[13:51:31] <b_b> marker.on('click', function(e) {...
[13:51:34] <b_b> http://leafletjs.com/reference.html#events
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[13:54:31] <Hk_> your "marker" define only one marker on the map ? or i'm totaly wrong ?
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[14:03:19] <b_b> marker is tha var name which contains my marker object
[14:10:04] <Hk_> ok, but having several markers on my map i'd like to know if there is a way to make a general function which is executed when the user click on any marker ? (like an event on a class in jQuery $(".marker").click(function(){......});)
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[14:37:45] <perl> Hk_: no, you will have to keep track of your marker instances and add the event listener to each one, afaik
[14:38:23] <perl> Hk_: you could create a custom marker class, inheriting from L.Marker and add the event listener there, if you want
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[14:42:57] <angezanetti> hey
[14:43:41] <angezanetti> i try to add bulks of markers with the markerCluster plugin but leaflet crash : TypeError: invalid 'instanceof' operand L.MarkerCluster
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[14:44:00] <angezanetti> did i miss call/instantiate the MarkerGroup ?
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[14:52:16] <Hk_> => Perl : ok :/, don't think i have enough skills to create that class for the moment, but i'll keep that in mind, thx for the help
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[15:05:00] <mourner> angezanetti: that's pretty weird, are you doing something special in the code?
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[15:08:42] <angezanetti> mourner: yeah, i populated the map with an ajax code
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[15:10:09] <mourner> angezanetti: what browser?
[15:10:27] <ybon> angezanetti: are you sure the plugin is included? :)
[15:10:35] <mourner> angezanetti: and how did you instantiate the MarkerGroup?
[15:10:53] <ybon> this message can occurs it the class on the right doesn't exist
[15:10:57] <ybon> it/if
[15:11:26] <ybon> #plasticduckmode
[15:12:03] <angezanetti> here is my code guys
http://pastebin.com/QCMujCAC
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[15:13:54] <angezanetti> ybon: the plugin is included yep :)
[15:14:07] <angezanetti> I see the cluster, but the zoom don"t woks
[15:14:10] <angezanetti> works
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[15:17:05] <angezanetti> mourner: FF, and i tried several way to instantiate tje markergroup, no solution was ok
[15:17:30] <mourner> angezanetti: var marker = new L.marker( latlng, {icon: entrepriseIcon})
[15:17:38] <mourner> angezanetti: should be just L.marker
[15:17:48] <mourner> without new
[15:18:24] <ybon> (that reminds me some discussion time ago ;) )
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[15:30:02] <weazyo> hey whats leafies
[15:30:09] <weazyo> whats up
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[15:35:27] <angezanetti> mourner seems to be the same ...
[15:36:45] <ybon> do you have a stacktrace?
[15:36:57] <ybon> or it's just at parse time?
[15:45:29] <angezanetti> i don"t have a stack trace...
[15:45:59] <angezanetti> i'm not really used to console.trace()
[15:47:36] <angezanetti> it parse the markers, show the clusters but after loading is says "invalid instance of operad L.MarkerCluster
[15:48:19] <angezanetti> if i try to zoom in/out or move the map, then same eror again + i is undefined in the markerClusterGroup js file line 6...
[15:48:33] <angezanetti> i don't really knwo how to debu gthis
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[15:49:27] <tmcw> angezanetti:
http://debugbrowser.com/
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[15:51:18] <angezanetti> lol tmcw yeah i use firebug for years thx
[15:55:35] <Demiurge> i wish there was a way to get a control OO style after its been added to map
[15:55:37] <Demiurge> from the map
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[15:56:38] <Demiurge> https://github.com/makinacorpus/django-leaflet/issues/44
[15:57:28] <Demiurge> if another library adds the draw control to the map and gets rid of the variable, id have to do something hackish
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[16:00:00] <perl> Demiurge: doesn't it sound more like the library should be fixed, so that you can get hold of the control instances?
[16:00:16] <Demiurge> well thats why i have a pull request to this library
[16:00:28] <Demiurge> but this wouldn't be a problem in OL
[16:00:44] <Demiurge> and i can imagine is a common simple task, to have an array of controls
[16:01:04] <Demiurge> once a control is added to map, it can actually be found hackishly through the container DOM
[16:01:05] <Demiurge> too
[16:01:05] <Demiurge> :)
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[16:02:13] <Demiurge> the only reason i can think of not keeping a list of controls in Map is some sort of garbage collector aimed optimization
[16:02:24] <Demiurge> right?
[16:03:21] <Demiurge> i could be missing some other more important reason against it
[16:04:00] <Demiurge> overall, it seems uglier for various consumers of the map to keep and re-reference the control
[16:04:21] <Demiurge> as opposed to reference it through map
[16:04:55] <tmcw> Demiurge: the ability-to-get-and-set-everything-from-everywhere-ideology of openlayers might be one of the reasons why it's not all that popular anymore
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[16:05:27] <Demiurge> I'm sure it is, and overall it increases complexity
[16:06:00] <Demiurge> but isn't there some balance?
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[16:06:20] <tmcw> there's a struggle, that's a sort of balance
[16:06:49] <Demiurge> :)
[16:07:10] <Demiurge> i think OL only suffers from being old
[16:07:19] <Demiurge> and doing everything
[16:07:24] <Demiurge> not having access to everything
[16:07:46] <tmcw> i worked on it when it was significantly less old, and would disagree
[16:07:55] <Demiurge> ok
[16:08:11] <Demiurge> which part though?
[16:08:38] <Demiurge> there is a difference between get-set-everything-from-everywhere and include-every-type-of-layer
[16:08:52] <Demiurge> or markers geometries drawing tools
[16:08:59] <Demiurge> everything else
[16:09:04] <tmcw> sure, so like the get-set-everything idea...
[16:09:25] <tmcw> javascript has variables. once you start using a mapping framework, the mapping framework shouldn't suddenly become your box of variables
[16:09:52] <Demiurge> shouldn't it become a box of its members?
[16:10:02] <Demiurge> some things belong to the map, some don't
[16:10:20] <Demiurge> are you saying OO has no place in leaflet? :)
[16:13:55] <Komzpa> Demiurge: can you get the basic concept of using leaflet? :)
[16:14:26] <Demiurge> where do i get it, is it going to be on black friday sale?
[16:15:46] <tmcw> I don't think we would agree on what OO is and what its purpose would be
[16:16:29] <Demiurge> ok, what box would you recommend i keep controls in?
[16:16:39] <tmcw> variable scope and return values
[16:16:43] <tmcw> the javascript box
[16:16:53] <Demiurge> hm, so i have window
[16:17:44] <Demiurge> do you have any references for what you think OO is and its purpose?
[16:18:13] <Demiurge> i don't want to have a religious argument, I'm genuinely curious
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[16:19:00] <Demiurge> to me it seems to make most sense to have an array of controls in map, i could have an array or object of controls anywhere i guess
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[16:19:18] <Demiurge> but i might have multiple different pieces of code that want to change those
[16:19:26] <Demiurge> so i have to agree on some place
[16:19:27] <Demiurge> right?
[16:19:45] <tmcw> sure, and so you would have an array of layers and an array of controls
[16:19:45] <Demiurge> or are you saying i need to make a findDrawControl() function
[16:20:01] <Demiurge> hm
[16:20:37] <Demiurge> yes
[16:21:05] <Demiurge> so the question is how to best share them
[16:21:15] <Demiurge> between different agnostic libraries
[16:21:32] <Demiurge> i also want to have modular code
[16:21:37] <tmcw> indeed
[16:21:39] <Demiurge> and not rewrite it for every site heh
[16:22:59] <Demiurge> didn't you write the iD editor? :)
[16:24:42] <Demiurge> was hoping the draw tool might be reusable
[16:24:55] <Demiurge> but didn't look into it yet
[16:26:19] <tmcw> iD's code is mostly reusable but much of it is informed by OSM ideas
[16:26:31] <tmcw> for instance, it does topographical data, so what it edits isn't representable in geojson
[16:27:00] <Demiurge> ah, that is why it was interesting to me, it can be connected to a big postgis database
[16:27:11] <Demiurge> something that the only current alternative for is WFS-T
[16:27:27] <Demiurge> and OL :D
[16:27:31] <Demiurge> :(
[16:27:49] <tmcw> y, with some tweaking it could be pretty reusable. geojson.io is much simpler and based on leaflet rather than d3
[16:28:02] <Demiurge> yeah i looked at it
[16:28:15] <Demiurge> but of course it can't handle complex geometry
[16:28:15] <tmcw> different use case, etc
[16:28:17] <Demiurge> yes
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[16:28:36] <Demiurge> we use geonode for big maps
[16:28:41] <Demiurge> no alternative
[16:29:27] <Demiurge> well, open ones. i think the iD the best potential for 1million polygon layers
[16:31:19] <tmcw> hm, it would break with that many. iD relies heavily on the osm api providing subsets of map data
[16:31:20] <Demiurge> i think crashed my browser geojson.io with a 10mb shapefile
[16:31:22] <Demiurge> :>
[16:31:33] <Demiurge> hm
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[16:31:45] <Demiurge> i was hoping there might be a way to shoehorn
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[16:31:56] <Demiurge> regular geometries into it
[16:32:16] <Demiurge> so any geometry table would work
[16:34:12] <tmcw> unless you use webgl or something exotic, most purely web-based solutions are going to fail on complex geoms
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[16:45:46] <Demiurge> if they are too complex to be rendered they are too complex to edit
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[16:51:57] <Demiurge> it wouldn't be purely web based at all
[16:52:22] <Demiurge> it would be a mix of mapnik doing rendering and d3
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[17:46:28] <Demiurge> <tmcw> I don't think we would agree on what OO is and what its purpose would be
[17:47:09] <Demiurge> I'm still curious why you'd say that
[17:48:08] <Demiurge> it makes me feel i have a gap in my knowledge i need to fill asap
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