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[00:22:33] <Tom_itx> PCW what's a good value for an open collector pullup to a mesa board IO?
[00:22:46] <Tom_itx> 220 enough?
[00:23:02] <Tom_itx> 1k?
[00:23:32] <PCW> FPGA I/O ?
[00:23:54] <Tom_itx> i think those will go to the 7i47
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[00:24:02] <Tom_itx> or one of the SSERIAL boards
[00:24:12] <Tom_itx> more than likely the 7i47
[00:24:30] <PCW> what is the pullup for?
[00:24:42] <Tom_itx> the encoder is open collector output
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[00:32:51] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/new_pulleys/Nemicon%20OME%20Encoder.pdf
[00:32:59] <Tom_L> there's the pdf on them
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[00:33:56] <Tom_L> iirc i used 1k when testing on an avr
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[00:39:15] <jdh> it is possible to align the electric zero with.
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[00:46:07] <renesis> tom_l: looks like you have to go by the max output current spec
[00:46:55] <renesis> R_min = V_psu / 20mA
[00:47:19] <renesis> also this datasheet sucks
[00:47:35] <Tom_L> 5v supply
[00:47:58] <renesis> its like they copy pasted hiroses name without stripping font format, and their supply voltage spec does not make sense
[00:48:23] <renesis> they have voltages listed one over the other, but they have three device columns over the spec column
[00:48:31] <Tom_L> they did get it translated to english though
[00:48:38] <jdh> kind of.
[00:48:40] <renesis> p/n clears that up
[00:48:49] <jdh> it is possible to align the electric zero with.
[00:48:57] <SpeedEvil> jdh: what?
[00:49:03] <Tom_L> wtf does that mean?
[00:49:04] <jdh> that's in the data sheet
[00:49:40] <jdh> could just mean 'has index'
[00:49:52] <renesis> Z looks like the index pulse
[00:50:04] <jdh> it is, but still odd wording.
[00:50:11] <jdh> 7i47 is differential only?
[00:50:29] <Tom_L> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/motors/focusring12.jpg
[00:50:36] <Tom_L> there's the PN
[00:51:01] <Tom_L> OME-500-2MCA
[00:51:38] <renesis> anyway, 250R is is R_min, use like 2.2k
[00:51:42] <Tom_L> jdh i'm using resistors on it for single ended
[00:52:23] <Tom_L> on some of it anyway
[00:52:57] <jdh> makes me confused though.
[00:54:54] <jdh> so, a pullup on one side and a voltage divider on the other?
[00:55:03] <Tom_L> that's the plan
[00:55:41] <renesis> yeah i would verify the input circuit first
[00:56:32] <renesis> it most likely has an input resistor or input bias to keep from floating, your divider is going to be in parallel with that
[00:57:09] <Tom_L> i'll try it without first but i had to add some pullups on the avr
[00:57:10] <renesis> input resistance is likely high z, so if you devider resistance is low it prob works, or gets you close enough
[00:57:33] <renesis> well yeah i dont think those encoders will work without pullups
[00:57:42] <Tom_L> me either
[00:58:06] <renesis> maybe, but the Vhigh being blank prob means its just open collector
[00:58:21] <renesis> V high is basically whatever is on other side of the pullup
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[00:58:41] <renesis> avr just has general purpose inputs, tho
[00:58:44] <Tom_L> or it would vary depending on the input voltage
[00:58:56] <renesis> something with diff input prob has a proper analog input circuit
[00:58:59] <renesis> maybe
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[00:59:03] <Tom_L> maybe some models are 10-13v
[00:59:10] <Tom_L> the one i have is 5v
[00:59:30] <renesis> but like, if the diff input has center biased inputs, you prob dont need to do anything on the floating side
[01:00:12] <renesis> if its bipolar input, and ground referenced through a resistor, maybe doesnt work unless pulled up but you can prob just get away with resistor same value as grounding input resistor
[01:00:57] <renesis> if its just inputs floating in space, simple divider will work
[01:02:02] <renesis> kind of depends how 'analog' the diff input is, traditionally speaking
[01:02:47] <renesis> is maybe bipolar optocoupler inputs, in which case almost anything works if enough current
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[01:20:19] <XXCoder> https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1656428_10203155939840620_4853552006783639998_n.jpg?oh=cebba0a20c28850ce945a7a916ce9b2e&oe=54FC9F92
[01:20:31] <XXCoder> love that pic heh
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[03:32:19] <furrywolf> is there an easy way to get the latency test program without downloading the entire 1.1gb dvd? I want to see if a system will work, but downloading something that large is out of the question on my connection.
[03:33:33] <skunkworks> do you already have a linux system running?
[03:33:39] <furrywolf> I'm guessing not easily, since it probably needs the right kernel etc, but I figure I should ask before giving up. :)
[03:34:39] <furrywolf> I have debian's mini install cd... was going to install it, then figured it'd be better to start with the linuxcnc version... then found out it was 1.1gb!
[03:35:10] <furrywolf> I have linux on this box, but that doesn't help much. :)
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[03:38:22] <XXCoder> I wish linuxcnc come in puppylinux edition or something
[03:38:25] <XXCoder> tiny and fast
[03:38:45] <XXCoder> if you has know how you can modify some small linux disto to support linuxcnc
[03:39:06] <furrywolf> I want to run the mill off an older Toughbook... but laptops seem to often have jitter issues. I couldn't find any hard test results from a toughbook, just a couple threads suggesting it works fine but that sounded like they were from people who haven't actually done it...
[03:39:28] <furrywolf> so want to run the latency test before I go through the work of trying to get a 1.1gb file.
[03:40:01] <XXCoder> torrent might help?
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[03:40:05] <furrywolf> (so I can start planning on a single-board computer or such now, instead of later)
[03:40:19] <furrywolf> torrent won't magically make my connection ten times faster and ten times cheaper, sadly.
[03:40:34] <furrywolf> (3g with weak signal and high data charges)
[03:42:13] <XXCoder> I know it wont
[03:42:23] <XXCoder> ohh per mb charges
[03:42:26] <XXCoder> that sucks
[03:42:33] <XXCoder> what about some sneakernet
[03:42:42] <XXCoder> if you know someone with good net access
[03:42:42] <furrywolf> I probably should just stop avoiding driving to town and getting someone else to download it.
[03:43:02] <XXCoder> hmm car. carnet ;)
[03:43:35] <furrywolf> never underestimate the bandwidth of a vehicle filled with drives. :)
[03:43:54] <XXCoder> yeah driviong in car with drives
[03:44:06] <XXCoder> driving drive filled car
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[03:45:33] <furrywolf> let's see... a 128gb microsd card weighs, what, 1g? figure my subaru can hold 500kg easily... that's 61 petabytes. even if I drive across country, in three days, that'd still be 2tb/sec or something.
[03:45:47] <XXCoder> its faster by mailnet
[03:46:07] <FinboySlick> furrywolf: You better have a heck of a USB hub at each end though.
[03:46:12] <furrywolf> lol
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[03:48:14] <furrywolf> I really want to make this toughbook work... my current mill runs off an old p3 laptop with flashcut's proprietary box, that I'd like to use for target practice rather than milling, and my new mill has no controller yet...
[03:48:40] <XXCoder> I wonder if raspberry pi is powerful enough :P
[03:49:00] <furrywolf> I don't know if arm even has compatible rt extensions...
[03:49:09] <XXCoder> probably not
[03:49:32] <XXCoder> though it probably can directly control drivers
[03:49:39] <FinboySlick> Wasn't someone here working on a beagleboard black port?
[03:50:21] <furrywolf> new mill is still in the project stage (I have motors... pulleys... belts... drivers... a breakout board... power supplies... cables... none of which are connected to each other in any way), so getting a working computer isn't a huge rush, but it'd be nice.
[03:50:42] <XXCoder> my project is stalled. :( lack of willpower
[03:51:30] <FinboySlick> furrywolf: Small amd APU boards are apparently very good (and cheap). Get a little mesa card if you really want it rockin'.
[03:51:43] <furrywolf> this'll be my beefiest cnc project yet... 940ozin steppers running at 9A/phase...
[03:52:07] <furrywolf> FinboySlick: cheap is very high on the priority list right now, and last I checked nothing mesa was cheap.
[03:52:29] <XXCoder> how do you guys keep working pon project?
[03:52:45] <FinboySlick> furrywolf: 6i25 is under 100$ and all you need for a project like yours.
[03:53:32] <furrywolf> I also really want laptop control, as due to lack of space in the shop (in reality, a storage unit), the mill is on a roll-around cart...
[03:54:06] <furrywolf> I was thinking a single-board computer in the driver box with the ui on the laptop if I had to, but I hope not to.
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[03:56:27] <furrywolf> oh well, I'll see if tomorrow I can find a way to get the full dvd.
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[03:57:25] <XXCoder> yeh good luck :)
[03:58:07] <furrywolf> even if it's not ideal, it'll give me something to drive the breakout board enough to test drivers, etc.
[03:58:14] <furrywolf> got some well-used cn0165s...
[03:59:11] <furrywolf> toughbooks are a bit odd, so I have no idea if they'll perform closer to a desktop or not.
[03:59:45] <furrywolf> rather than being designed for compactness and long battery life, they were designed so they could be repurposed as a hammer, while running...
[04:00:50] <furrywolf> it's also nice to be able to clean the chips off the keyboard with a garden hose.
[04:01:44] <unfy> heh
[04:02:18] <furrywolf> I was washing one off once when the mailman showed up to deliver a package... the look on his face was utterly priceless.
[04:03:28] <unfy> i was gonna do an amd itx board, but a coworker has a lot of p3/p4 era systems. so i handed him the linuxcnc live disc and he went around to his diff systems. a tyan amd dual athlon mp system had good numbers but physical problems. instead i he fed me an amd 2800mp system. it gets 10100/10100 jitter timings after 5 days
[04:03:53] <unfy> we've done a bit of work on some tough books, they are indeed neat.
[04:04:15] <furrywolf> tried a latency test on one? I have a cf-29 and a cf-30.
[04:04:20] <unfy> anyway, so i through $20 at my coworker for the system
[04:04:42] <unfy> we don't have any around at the moment. been a couple years since i've seen one in the shop
[04:05:01] <unfy> threw.
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[04:05:38] <furrywolf> I'm really trying to avoid the space requirement of a desktop system... I have several p3 systems I could use, but I want to take them to the recycling center, not mount one to the mill.
[04:06:15] <furrywolf> though I'll probably try giving them away on craigslist before scrapping them... _someone_ has to want a dual p3-800!
[04:07:13] <unfy> the size of this case should let me get breakout board and drivers inside of the case. the 4pin microphone / cb jacks should mount easily, and if i really wanted - bolting a 13-17" touch screen to the side of the case would be easy enough.
[04:08:07] <furrywolf> I'm using anderson powerpoles for the steppers... bulky, no shield connection, but should reliably handle 9A/phase... I just don't trust those little cannon knockoffs for more than a couple amps.
[04:08:31] <furrywolf> (powerpoles being good for 45A gives a nice margin of error)
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[04:09:21] <unfy> i won't be anywhere near even 10a on this current system myself heh... opposite side of spectrum
[04:09:49] <unfy> i pasted your p3 / cl / etc comments to coworker (across cubicle) - he's curious where you are heh
[04:10:19] <unfy> and 'thats bullshit' (he's a hairy bastard, had chewbacca as a nickname for a while)
[04:10:34] <unfy> we're near omaha, ne - btw.
[04:10:39] <furrywolf> what's bullshit?
[04:10:47] <furrywolf> far northern californa here.
[04:11:07] <unfy> bullshit - that the two of you sound similar - and with your name matching his physical desrciption etc.
[04:11:52] <furrywolf> tell him that my nick doesn't say furry because of hair ammount, and see what he says. :P
[04:11:53] <unfy> granted, i opened my question to him 'am i talking to you on irc right now' :P
[04:12:54] <unfy> "i got nothing", "why are we having this conversation"
[04:13:01] <furrywolf> lol
[04:14:03] <furrywolf> this is a mid-sized mill/lathe combo... a Shoptask chinese 3-in-1 machine... kinda like the one harbor freight/etc sells, but twice the size. about 2ft X travel and 1ft Y, but only 3" Z.
[04:14:09] <furrywolf> dual 1hp motors
[04:14:27] <furrywolf> sec, I took a picture a while ago... have it somewhere...
[04:14:54] <unfy> *drool*
[04:14:56] <furrywolf> http://fw.bushytails.net/shoptask02.jpg looks like that.
[04:15:06] <unfy> i need to get my own house with garage or workshop ._.
[04:16:00] <furrywolf> I have it in a rental storage unit... both no space for it here, and the floor wouldn't support it.
[04:16:34] * SpeedEvil waves at furrywolf.
[04:16:41] <furrywolf> meep!
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[04:18:02] <furrywolf> it may be chinese, but it's still 700lbs of chinese steel. heh.
[04:18:32] <furrywolf> my sherline is the opposite... I can easily lift it over my head with one arm.
[04:18:51] <furrywolf> driver box and laptop included
[04:19:28] <unfy> i'd be a bit... weirded out about bigger chinese stuff. the old addage 'china on the label, shit on the table' seems to be more and more true as i fiddle with more and more stuff ._. ---- i dunno if big hunks of chinese steel have room to be bad or not etc
[04:20:17] <furrywolf> dunno... but it was $100, which put it within my budget.
[04:20:32] <unfy> $100 makes it a worthy buy no matter what :D
[04:20:52] <furrywolf> I've fixed most of its problems... the bent X axis leadscrew requires filling my oxytorch tanks first though.
[04:21:04] <SpeedEvil> Did it come that way?
[04:21:37] <furrywolf> yes. apparantly someone kocked it over with a forklift, or something like that... the guy I got it from was a bit hazy on the story.
[04:22:26] <furrywolf> most of the damage was repaired by the previous owner, or was entirely cosmetic...
[04:22:54] <furrywolf> I still need to fab a new lathe motor belt tensioner, and fix the leadscrew.
[04:23:16] <furrywolf> only the very end is bent, outside of the bearing. the threaded part runs true.
[04:23:42] <FinboySlick> furrywolf: The main issue with bigger china steel is that it gets tricky to actually fix them. You can't just lap surfaces on a little surface plate or what not.
[04:24:15] <FinboySlick> You need large and fairly expensive reference surfaces, precision squares and levels.
[04:24:33] <furrywolf> I don't expect it to ever hold tolerances nearly tight enough to require lapping parts.
[04:24:36] <furrywolf> it seems sloppy by design.
[04:25:28] <furrywolf> the rack and pinion Z drive seems to suck by design, for example...
[04:26:36] <furrywolf> the bracket holding the x axis nuts to the saddle has a stuipdly large amount of flex...
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[04:27:32] <furrywolf> the leadscrew is several inches below it... so they have a big C-shaped bracket that screws to it and holds the nuts... the C shape means it twists every time you put any load on it.
[04:30:03] <furrywolf> it is what it is... cheap! I'm not expecting any precision work from it.
[04:32:21] <SpeedEvil> Still rather better at making round things than a file.
[04:33:16] <furrywolf> yes, that it is.
[04:33:40] <furrywolf> for example, it's made an excellently round hole I can throw money into trying to make it cnc! heh
[04:34:05] <FinboySlick> furrywolf: Great way to build experience.
[04:34:23] <SpeedEvil> :)
[04:35:51] <furrywolf> I've spent three times as much just on steppers, drivers, and associated bits as I did on the machine.
[04:36:10] <furrywolf> got some 940ozin pacsci steppers and centent cn0165 drivers.
[04:36:40] <furrywolf> I had two 24V 25A power supplies, to make 48V (closer to 54-56) 25A to power them...
[04:39:04] <furrywolf> just bought some flexible shielded wire, some small filter taps to put at the drivers, a coke can filter cap to put on the supply, a 24v-5v dcdc (running a usb cable for the breakout board's power just seems stupid!), and other bits costing even more money...
[04:39:12] <furrywolf> s/taps/caps
[04:43:33] <furrywolf> the steppers are reasonably low inductance, so I'm hoping with the high power supply voltage, I can get enough rpm to make up for the fine-pitch leadscrews.
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[08:31:57] <Swapper> Hi channel, anyone know how to calculate the depth of a slot to hold a O-Ring type seal, flat surface.
[08:32:19] <Swapper> would think there should be a formula to calculate the depth of the slot
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[08:34:57] <toastydeath> Swapper, you actually have to refer to the product sheet for the o ring you plan on using
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[08:35:19] <toastydeath> i believe there's an iso spec, but it's not a straight slot, it's a wedge shaped slot
[08:35:51] <Swapper> its not for any critical application and i dont have a datasheet on the oring material
[08:36:09] <toastydeath> sry, I don't have any good rules of thumb
[08:37:09] <Swapper> thanx anyway, i can allways make the slot a bit shalow and then adjust for fit
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[08:38:03] <toastydeath> here, this may help
[08:38:17] <toastydeath> except i can't seem to paste
[08:38:27] <Swapper> :)
[08:38:37] <toastydeath> http://www.ponnmachine.com/groove_design.html
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[08:49:24] <Swapper> ill take a look, thanks
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[10:10:42] <Jymm> Forging a Wizard...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llM5ez6fgBw
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[10:26:48] <Jymm> Lawnmower forge (I was waiting for the roadkill bbq, but never happened)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfQHOGDHp4Y
[10:40:44] <Jymm> Coffee can forge (it's actually not too bad at all)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIRTcmR6sSk
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[10:44:59] <archivist_herron> pc power supply fan forge
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=blacksmith+hands
[10:48:36] <Jymm> archivist_herron: Heh, that works =)
[10:49:11] <Jymm> For you EU folks... 220VAC LED Bulbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNf6VSj6M-E
[10:49:34] <Jymm> shocking (literally)
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[18:28:35] <CaptHindsight> what light from yonder window breaks? It might be the elusive sun people write about
[18:31:21] <lair82> ssi, did you get your boards?
[18:31:33] <lair82> PCW you around?
[18:32:53] <pcw_home> Yes
[18:35:58] <lair82> What is your recommendation, I need to get 2 more encoders (spindle feedback, and 4th axis ) into linuxcnc, and would like to come off of my 7i44 into a SSerial card to interface with them.
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[18:38:32] <pcw_home> Unfortunately theres no way to do that currently
[18:39:12] <pcw_home> you would need a direct FPGA connected daughtercard
[18:40:35] <pcw_home> say swap the 7I44 for a 7I52 (7I52 is 6 encoder inputs, 6 sserial channels)
[18:43:07] <lair82> Would I just cut the rj12 connectors off that are connected to it right now, and wire those direct?
[18:43:26] <pcw_home> Yes
[18:43:39] <pcw_home> I would like to have sserial remotes with encoders, but everytime I look closely into it it looks like work...
[18:44:15] <lair82> I could probably just run 2 more 7i73's couldn't I?
[18:44:39] <pcw_home> 7I73 encoders are really just for MPGs etc
[18:44:55] <lair82> Oh, ok.
[18:46:07] <pcw_home> there are two technical issues with sserial encoders:
[18:46:09] <pcw_home> 1: index is not supported
[18:46:10] <pcw_home> 2. sserial read data is one servo cycle late, ok for most I/O but not for closing a PID loop
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[18:46:36] <pcw_home> both are fixable (1 is easy, 2 is hard)
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[18:47:32] <lair82> I see, going with the 7i52 isn't a big deal, I would rather swap a card than try to crowbar 2 more in on top of an already packed control panel.
[18:48:35] <ssi> lair82: not as of yet, but I haven't checked packages in two days
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[18:49:41] <pcw_home> Now if you had a SSI, BISS or Fanuc serial encoder, that will connect directly to the 7I44
[18:51:33] <pcw_home> (those are all absolute serial encoders that use a RS-422 interface with one TX pair and one RX pair just like sserial)
[18:53:02] <lair82> The spindle is a fanuc, but it is an older diferential style, and the other is the encoder feedback from a brand new Automation Direct 3kw servo/drive combo.
[18:54:15] <lair82> ssi, should be there, say's delivered monday at 5:32pm, left on front porch.
[18:54:22] <ssi> oh it went to the house
[18:54:23] <ssi> crud
[18:55:04] <lair82> That was the address I had, I take it your not there?
[18:55:16] <ssi> nah, I burned it down :)
[18:55:24] <ssi> I thought I'd put a different address on it
[18:55:48] <lair82> Serious?
[18:56:09] <ssi> yeah, that's why i need more boards! ;)
[18:56:33] <lair82> What, your house seriously burnt down?
[18:57:11] <ssi> yeah!
[18:58:09] <lair82> Dude, sorry to here that.
[18:58:27] <ssi> eh it's fine
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[18:59:03] <skunkworks> it's just stuff, man..
[18:59:10] <ssi> exactly
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[19:00:20] <lair82> Pretty shitty the USPS delivered a box to a concrete foundation.
[19:00:38] <ssi> nah, not quite that bad
[19:00:42] <ssi> it's probably sitting on the porch
[19:00:44] <lair82> And didn't return it to me.
[19:00:46] <ssi> I just have to drive 70 miles to go get it
[19:01:17] <lair82> Fuck, sorry man, that was the address I had.
[19:01:22] <ssi> no biggie
[19:01:29] <ssi> I need to go up and get all the mail anyway
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[19:07:28] <lair82> pcw, another question I have is, the encoder is powered from the spindle drive, 5vdc. Do need to do anything else to interface that into that 7i52?
[19:11:27] <pcw_home> You should not need anything else (just dont connect the 7I52 encoder connector 5V pin)
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[19:18:06] <lair82> Ok, that's what I was thinking. I just ordered 2 of the 7i52's off of the web store.
[19:21:25] <lair82> Does that mean I can drive that AD servo package off of the 7I52 as well thru the RS-232/422/485 communications interface via Modbus protocol on the drive?
[19:23:13] <lair82> I didn't even see that it said they were out of stock, unless I got the last 2.
[19:23:44] <lair82> How long will it take before they will be available again?
[19:26:59] <pcw_home> I dont know off hand. I'll check
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[19:28:28] <pcw_home> There's no modbus support VIA Mesa UARTs currently (not impossible but would need hacking of MB2HAL or some such)
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[19:32:25] <lair82> Just wondering, I see a bunch of stuff on the mailing list today about modbus and vfd's from AD. I might tinker with it when all of it gets here.
[19:33:09] <lair82> Will it be a while until those cards ship if they are out of stock?
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[19:35:02] <pcw_home> I dont think so Im pretty sure we have 50 that are in from assy but have not been tested yet
[19:35:32] <PetefromTn_> afternoon folks...
[19:35:42] <lair82> Ok, sounds good, not like its ready to be fired up yet anyway.
[19:36:00] <lair82> Hello Pete,
[19:36:20] <PetefromTn_> hey lair howzitgoin?
[19:36:49] <ssi> hey pete
[19:36:58] <PetefromTn_> hey SSI
[19:37:07] <lair82> Not bad, have you made any headway getting the tool changer carousel going with linux on your cinci/
[19:37:18] <PetefromTn_> unfortunately not
[19:37:25] <PetefromTn_> still have to get orient working
[19:37:54] <PetefromTn_> honestly right now I am more concerned with getting the machine setup in native imperial measurements so I can use Cutter comp easier
[19:38:21] <ssi> you set it up metric originally?
[19:38:22] <PetefromTn_> I did wind up getting myself a couple Christmas Presents tho LOL
[19:38:44] <jdh> you haven't fixed that yet?
[19:39:04] <PetefromTn_> yup mostly because of the metric screws and the fact that we had the files from LEE in UK for the same machine that we wanted to use.
[19:39:07] <PetefromTn_> nope
[19:39:14] <lair82> Ok, just wondered, I'm in the midst of retrofitting a 1984 10vc-1000, and a 1979 (same model) cinci vmc's and am dreading that part of the deal.
[19:39:14] <ssi> my screws seemed metric-ish
[19:39:16] <ssi> but not exactly
[19:39:17] <ssi> heh
[19:39:28] <ssi> they seemed to measure out to a shade over 8mm if I recall correctly
[19:39:31] <PetefromTn_> But I need to get it sorted.
[19:39:49] <PetefromTn_> I just don't really know how to get it done yet
[19:40:08] <PetefromTn_> I did have the need to do some kinda vertical lathe work in the VMC tho
[19:40:28] <PetefromTn_> I have a bunch of 3/4 inch round shanks I need to center drill, champfer and drill and tap
[19:40:39] <PetefromTn_> 40 of them actually
[19:40:52] <PetefromTn_> so without a CNC lathe here yet I was forced to do something else
[19:41:04] <PetefromTn_> I ordered one of those little 5c spin indexers
[19:41:13] <PetefromTn_> and a nice set of 5c collets
[19:41:20] <PetefromTn_> and a little collet stop for it
[19:41:37] <PetefromTn_> The plan is to clamp the indexer vertically on my large angle plate
[19:41:44] <PetefromTn_> and locate the spindle centerline
[19:41:45] <lair82> We just bought 2 VTL's, 59.5" max swing a piece, both need new controls, yeeee haaaaa,
[19:41:50] <PetefromTn_> and then take care of it that way
[19:41:58] <PetefromTn_> NICE
[19:42:09] <ssi> holy balls
[19:42:11] <ssi> 60" swing?
[19:42:13] <PetefromTn_> I cannot wait to get my CNC lathe working but it is gonna cost about 2.5k or so
[19:42:26] <PetefromTn_> thats a freakin' monster
[19:42:29] <lair82> How long are those parts you have to do?
[19:42:38] <PetefromTn_> not long about five or six inches
[19:42:51] <PetefromTn_> which is nice because the spin indexer will swallow most of them
[19:43:06] <PetefromTn_> and the part that gets machined will be close to the face.
[19:43:29] <lair82> Sounds like a job to farm out, wink wink!!!!
[19:43:39] <PetefromTn_> I went this way because I can use the indexer for a lot of other stuff
[19:43:52] <PetefromTn_> and the 5c collets will become useful on the CNC lathe once it is online.
[19:44:17] <PetefromTn_> lair82 I would love to farm some stuff out but right now I can do these pretty easily in the Cincinatti
[19:44:46] <lair82> I see, very true, I was just saying that because we have 12 cnc lathes, plenty of time to run some smaller parts like that
[19:45:01] <PetefromTn_> It's funny I had a 12x36 manual lathe hear for years and never really had much paying work for it.
[19:45:13] <PetefromTn_> now that it is gone I have been bombarded with requests for lathe work LOL
[19:45:24] <PetefromTn_> where are you located again?
[19:45:34] <lair82> We bought a 10" avenger back in the summer just for smaller parts, production quantities.
[19:45:54] <PetefromTn_> nice
[19:46:06] <lair82> Petersburg MI, 10 minutes north of Toledo Ohio
[19:46:09] <PetefromTn_> I had opportunity recently to buy a nice little gang tool lathe
[19:46:24] <PetefromTn_> but I had already purchased and moved in this flat bed lathe I bought
[19:46:44] <PetefromTn_> honestly for what I intend to do this machine I have here will be perfect for the most part
[19:46:59] <PetefromTn_> but it would have been nice to have that gang tool collet lathe for stuff like this.
[19:47:42] <PetefromTn_> http://blog.cnccookbook.com/2014/12/16/10-features-pros-hobby-cnc-controllers-dont/?utm_source=CNCCookbook+Blog+Posts&utm_campaign=f3676d0d03-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_df8004b230-f3676d0d03-29524681
[19:48:12] <PetefromTn_> is it me or does this article have some misinformation about linuxCNC in it? I thought much of that he is talking about is already implemented
[19:48:22] <lair82> About those screws, even our 4 big MO series Cincinnati Lathes all have 8mm ball screws, and they all 4 were built between 1979 and 1985.
[19:48:52] <PetefromTn_> I think mine are either 8 or 5mm cannot recall
[19:48:58] <ssi> mine are probably also 8mm
[19:49:11] <ssi> just seemed like the math didn't work out
[19:49:15] <PetefromTn_> but I really need to figure out how to convert the base setup to imperial.
[19:49:39] <ssi> shouldn't be hard
[19:49:45] <PetefromTn_> if you could change the tool table editor to imperial that would not be a problem.
[19:50:04] <ssi> that's a good point
[19:50:11] <ssi> I always thought about the base setup as not mattering
[19:50:23] <ssi> but if the tool table is tied to the base units, then it sorta does matter
[19:50:25] <PetefromTn_> Apparently the settings will affect the tuning of the drives not that I have it tuned perfect in any way shape or foem
[19:50:35] <PetefromTn_> yup unfortunately
[19:51:12] <PetefromTn_> so when I want to change cutter width for comp it is metric and I have to whip out the calculator which is both time consuming and adds some chances for me to make a mistake
[19:51:25] <PetefromTn_> Gotta go pickup my kids BRB in a few minutes...
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[19:57:15] <PetefromTn_> Ok back agian
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[19:59:03] <PetefromTn_> I was watching a neat video series by Oxtools on youtube...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_VO9uRigQ8 Where he does some neat stuff with one of these cheap little spin indexers.
[19:59:17] <ssi> I like that guys videos
[19:59:37] <PetefromTn_> yeah he seems like a pretty cool guy
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[23:38:46] <zeeshan> anyone an expert on AFCI or gfci bnreakers?
[23:38:46] <zeeshan> :D
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