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[00:00:39] <archivist> I made an ISO taper on mine fitted well
[00:01:32] <ssi> runs dead nuts all the way up the taper
[00:08:30] <ssi> so I guess I'm gonna true up this backplate to the machine
[00:08:35] <ssi> any reason I shouldn't?
[00:08:45] <ssi> the spigot is supposed to be smaller t han the counterbore on set-tru chucks anyway
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[00:37:27] <ssi> cool
[00:37:32] <ssi> got a test bar to run sub-tenth in that chuck
[00:37:36] <ssi> this is gonna be a good lathe :D
[00:42:34] <zeeshan> nice
[00:43:23] <zeeshan> ssi i was gonna yell at you
[00:43:26] <zeeshan> but then i saw its a shars indicator
[00:43:27] <zeeshan> :p
[00:43:42] <zeeshan> i abuse mine like that too :D
[00:45:17] <ssi> heheh
[00:45:27] <ssi> I don't have any nice tenths indicators
[00:46:04] <ssi> I wonder how repeatable this chuck is
[00:46:10] <cathode> i have a strange boner right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdCRCcwDeKQ#t=32
[00:46:13] <cathode> (SFW)
[00:46:14] <ssi> it's running sub-tenth at the moment, gonna pull the bar out and rechuck it
[00:47:34] <ssi> k after rechucking, runs 0.0005"
[00:47:36] <ssi> I'll take it :D
[00:47:40] <zeeshan> good enough
[00:47:53] <ssi> cathode: lawd
[00:48:01] <zeeshan> i cant even follow the machine
[00:48:04] <zeeshan> that cathode posted
[00:48:07] <zeeshan> too much shit going on
[00:48:08] <zeeshan> :D
[00:48:16] <cathode> i'm like O___O
[00:48:18] <ssi> yes it has a distinct lack of sanity
[00:49:13] <cathode> when the rotary turret thing caught the part after it was cut off from the lathe i was like "dafuq?"
[00:49:18] <zeeshan> ssi help me decide
[00:49:27] <zeeshan> i basically hhave this:
[00:49:28] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15289716823/
[00:49:29] <ssi> redhead
[00:49:31] <cathode> then i realized that it must have matched it's speed to the speed of the lathe
[00:49:43] <zeeshan> im trying to figure out how the fak to bring wires to and from the boxes
[00:49:45] <zeeshan> to the devices
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[00:49:54] <zeeshan> like glass scales, monitor, motors, servos
[00:49:55] <zeeshan> tachos
[00:49:58] <zeeshan> etc
[00:50:01] <zeeshan> primary wire too
[00:50:08] <zeeshan> just drill a hole and use this shit:
[00:50:10] <ssi> flex conduit?
[00:50:17] <ssi> the watertight stuff
[00:50:27] <zeeshan> hm
[00:50:36] * Jymmm now buys his drugs from the pet store... faster than from Canada =)
[00:51:14] <cathode> yeah the LiquidTite stuff you can get at home depot is decent. it's really durable and if you use a hairdryer to warm it up a tad, it's easy to flex
[00:51:21] <zeeshan> the thing is
[00:51:28] <zeeshan> i already have connectors coming from the servos
[00:51:34] <zeeshan> like the wires coming already have these connectors..
[00:51:39] * _methods buys his drugs from the dude on the corner
[00:51:49] <_methods> cause they're good
[00:52:02] <zeeshan> theyre a weird connector i ahvent seen before
[00:52:05] <zeeshan> its rectangular
[00:52:08] <Jymmm> _methods: These are sealed and have an EXP date. works for me
[00:52:16] <_methods> hahah
[00:52:25] <Jymmm> _methods: BTW, I'm NOT kidding
[00:52:46] <_methods> mine were made by some dude with no teeth in a bathtub in a trailer park
[00:52:53] <Jymmm> _methods: Amoxicillin 250mg
[00:53:02] <_methods> yeah
[00:53:04] <_methods> cheaper too
[00:53:17] <_methods> pills? or injectable
[00:53:19] <Jymmm> Eh, cheaper on ebay by half, but I needed tham NOW!
[00:53:29] <Jymmm> 30 caplets for $20
[00:53:36] <Jymmm> err capsules
[00:53:38] <_methods> nice
[00:53:48] <Jymmm> ebay is $10 with free shipping
[00:54:17] <Jymmm> toothache + swollen + funky smell = infection
[00:54:30] <Jymmm> I dont fuck around with infections.
[00:54:34] <_methods> yeah that's bad
[00:54:43] <_methods> especially there lol
[00:55:01] <_methods> when i did my ICU rotations there was a guy in there who had 6 chest tubes
[00:55:08] <_methods> he came in with a tooth infection
[00:55:20] <_methods> infection spread to his media steinum
[00:55:26] <_methods> to his chest cavity
[00:55:34] <_methods> and 6 months later
[00:55:48] <Jymmm> Yeah, ppl dont realize how sever an infection can be
[00:56:13] <_methods> yea man it will kill ya quick
[00:56:25] <Jymmm> And this shit always happens on a 5day holiday weekend
[00:56:32] <Jymmm> 4day
[00:56:49] <cathode> here's more cnc porn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqePrbeAQoM
[00:57:01] <Jymmm> I figure 500mg BID should "help"
[00:57:25] <_methods> i'd try to use keflex for tooth
[00:57:30] <_methods> but if all you can get is mox
[00:57:31] <_methods> do it
[00:57:48] <Jymmm> Mox on penicillian, but I prefer mox
[00:58:01] <Jymmm> broad spectrum
[00:58:15] <_methods> well keflex (cephalexin) has better action in extremities
[00:58:31] <_methods> facial, hand, feet
[00:58:43] <cradek> http://softsolder.com/2014/11/29/windows-driver-update-root-canal-edition/
[00:58:44] <Jymmm> _methods: Well, this is what I know I could get, today. I don't kow other things
[00:58:52] <_methods> yeah
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[00:59:01] <_methods> amoxicillin should work ok there
[00:59:14] <Jymmm> cradek: lol
[00:59:39] <Jymmm> _methods: Yeah, plus I'm ordering a bottle too
[00:59:40] <_methods> cnc root canal
[00:59:56] <_methods> it's in 2.7
[01:01:05] <Jymmm> _methods: I'll try to see a DDS this week,then I have to explain how I'm already on antibotics.... "Don't ask questions you dont want the answer to"
[01:01:35] <_methods> yeah just make sure you tell him/her
[01:02:01] <Jymmm> _methods: Oh I will for sure (I know better than not to discluse such things)
[01:02:05] <_methods> they don't care if you get shit they just need to know so they don't give you something that will react with it
[01:02:49] <Jymmm> Heh, I'll tell em I found a bottle in the street =)
[01:02:56] <Jymmm> guter
[01:03:08] <_methods> they hear it all the time people don't take all their shit like idiots
[01:03:12] <_methods> so they can make super bugs
[01:03:37] <_methods> oh i'll save half of it in case i get sick again
[01:03:44] <_methods> thnx asshole
[01:04:02] <Jymmm> Well, I know better than to abuse antibiotics, thus I waited till the "warmth" and scent appeared.
[01:04:37] <Jymmm> but not till it "ranked"
[01:04:53] <Jymmm> as is killed the dead =)
[01:05:11] <_methods> yeah if it's hot/warm and you can smell something lol you might want to do something
[01:05:27] <_methods> but dentists only work like 2 days a week
[01:05:40] <Jymmm> Exactly. I learn infection signs long ago
[01:05:56] <Jymmm> It's a broken tooth, I just need it ripped out, then I'll be good.
[01:06:08] <_methods> yeah that sux
[01:06:17] <Jymmm> So pre-op antibiotics is a good thing anyway
[01:06:32] <_methods> that's what they're going to do to you anyways
[01:06:43] <Jymmm> staph infections kill.
[01:06:56] <Jymmm> Yep, and no need to wait =)
[01:07:09] <jdh> vise-grips?
[01:07:11] <_methods> if the infection is bad the anesthetic won't work so they like to make sure the infection is gone before they do anything
[01:07:25] <_methods> or it will have a harder time working
[01:07:34] <Jymmm> Well, it won't be gone, but it should be reduced at least.
[01:08:09] <Jymmm> It got "warm" last night.
[01:08:19] <Jymmm> but swollen for 2 days
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[01:08:49] <Jymmm> I have been popping 800mg advil like candy though
[01:09:03] <Jymmm> 2400mg/day
[01:09:22] <Jymmm> YAY LIVER/KIDNEYS-BE-GONE
[01:10:11] <Jymmm> I just refuse to take vicoden unless I REALLY REALLY have to.
[01:10:31] <jdh> hard to get now.
[01:10:41] <jdh> just get heroin, cheaper and easier.
[01:11:00] <Jymmm> Not really, just hate the mental effects it gives
[01:11:29] <Jymmm> How ppl get high on the shit I'll never know.
[01:12:16] <XXCoder> probably addicted to painless body
[01:12:19] <jdh> yeah... I don't like it either.
[01:12:54] <Jymmm> XXCoder: it's more than that. It does get you "high", but I hate the feeling you get from vicoden.
[01:13:07] <Jymmm> Now Demeral... YES PLEASE!
[01:13:13] <XXCoder> lol
[01:13:23] <Jymmm> No pain for a week!
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[01:13:49] <Jymmm> good stuff, and only need liek 10mg
[01:14:40] <Jymmm> 40mg if you like had your hand chopped off =)
[01:15:48] <Jymmm> _methods:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fish-Mox-Amoxicillin-250mg-30-capsules-/131343350756?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e94ac7be4
[01:16:45] <_methods> no kidding
[01:17:28] <_methods> damn even the fish are taking antibiotics
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[01:18:42] <Jymmm> lol
[01:20:46] <Jymmm> I really wish the US was like Mexico, you need something talk to the pharasist and you can get it. No need for a doctor.
[01:21:08] <Jymmm> and it's LITERALY the same meds that you get fom the SU
[01:21:11] <Jymmm> US
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[01:35:06] <CaptHindsight> same for the aquatic fish meds, same stuff but different package and label
[01:35:20] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: and cheaper too
[01:35:36] <_methods> you have to take it with water
[01:36:06] <_methods> under water
[01:36:33] <Jymmm> lol, I'll do that and "blurp blurb blurb while I'm at it too =)
[01:36:36] <CaptHindsight> "Take 1 pill with water underwater in the am"
[01:36:43] <_methods> hahahha
[01:44:34] <CaptHindsight> http://openlunchbox.com/ Open Hardware Laptop Project
[01:44:57] <XXCoder> what the flip wrong with web designers??
[01:45:05] <XXCoder> its almost white text on white backhground!!
[01:45:31] <Jymmm> I will say this much though, if you know your meds, best ot have that in stock BEFORE you might need it.
[01:45:49] <Jymmm> This shit always happens to me on 4 day weekends. never fails.
[01:46:10] <Jymmm> I was jsut lucky to find a place open on saturday and in stock.
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[01:48:29] <Jymmm> one place was actually out of stock.
[01:49:15] <Jymmm> And I slacked off ordering it like a month ago too.
[01:53:00] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: they didn't want to waste screen ink
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[01:58:01] * Tom_itx wonders if Jymmm sounds like 'Mr ED'
[01:58:14] <Jymmm> Helllllllo Wilber
[01:58:40] <CaptHindsight> of course of course
[02:00:52] <Jymmm> I guess that woud make me a Seahorse.
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[02:08:26] <Tom_itx> anybody know the steprate limit on a parallel port off hand?
[02:13:13] <jdh> whateve you can do in 2x base periods
[02:14:40] <zeeshan> man im having trouble figuring out how to route wires in and out of the cnc cabinet
[02:15:06] <jdh> BT-LE for all devices!
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[02:15:58] <zeeshan> basically i have: 3/0 main power wire. monitor, keyboard, mouse, wireless adapter wires. 24vdc to solenoids wires. wires from and to the interpolators and spindle encoder and limit switches. then wires to x,y,z,a,c axis including the tachometer wires. lastly the motor wires (hydraulic pump, coolant pump, spindle)
[02:16:06] <zeeshan> i really dont know how to handle it all.
[02:16:11] <zeeshan> without making it look like ass
[02:16:51] <jdh> wireless adapter wires?
[02:17:00] <zeeshan> yea its a usb wireless adapter
[02:17:04] <zeeshan> that i gotta mount outside the box
[02:17:06] <zeeshan> for the antenna
[02:17:18] <zeeshan> the onboard wireless cards cause too much jitter
[02:17:26] <zeeshan> for some reason the usb one doesnt
[02:17:45] <renesis> prob because youre doing usb shit anyway
[02:18:08] <zeeshan> so any ideas on wire routing?
[02:18:25] <zeeshan> can i route all the tacho, servo power vfd wires as one bundlke
[02:18:36] <zeeshan> the servo wires and tacho wires are shielded
[02:18:48] <zeeshan> the factory cnc routed the servo and tacho wires together
[02:19:11] <zeeshan> im thinking the solenoid wire (24vdc) should be away from the limit switch wires..
[02:19:20] <zeeshan> maybe not..
[02:19:51] <zeeshan> whats the best way to route the monitor, keyboard mouse wires?
[02:20:02] <renesis> away from everything else
[02:20:17] <renesis> keep them together
[02:20:19] <zeeshan> http://www.lulusoso.com/upimg/smallimg/20110908/1315547397_thumb.jpg
[02:20:22] <zeeshan> i was using this style of connector
[02:20:28] <zeeshan> in the lathe box
[02:20:35] <zeeshan> only thing is its really not that dust proof :P
[02:20:37] <renesis> thats a connector?
[02:20:46] <jdh> conduit adapter
[02:20:46] <renesis> thats like a bulkhead portal
[02:20:48] <zeeshan> its a strain relief
[02:20:51] <zeeshan> for conduit
[02:20:55] <zeeshan> or wire
[02:21:08] <zeeshan> im trying to find a better pic
[02:21:10] <zeeshan> here we go
[02:21:14] <renesis> i would take all the shielded signal shit, put it into some corrugated plastic loom
[02:21:40] <zeeshan> yes but how does that loom connect
[02:21:40] <zeeshan> to the cnc
[02:21:42] <renesis> power shit, twist with its return, keep somewhat loose
[02:21:43] <zeeshan> cabinet..
[02:21:56] <renesis> speak any english?
[02:22:07] <jdh> eh?
[02:22:08] <renesis> i would use big rubber grommet
[02:22:21] <zeeshan> a rubber grommet isnt gonna provide strain relief
[02:22:26] <renesis> sorry im illiterate and read what he typed wrong
[02:22:44] <renesis> you thing is strain relief?
[02:22:49] <renesis> with a big screw?
[02:22:59] <zeeshan> i cant find the proper pic.
[02:22:59] <renesis> looks worse than a switchcraft XLR
[02:23:01] <zeeshan> but it looks like this:
[02:23:06] <zeeshan> http://www.orbitelectric.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x1200/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/e/m/emt_to_flex_coup_set-clamp.jpg
[02:23:09] <zeeshan> it strain reliefs.
[02:23:12] <renesis> so the cable is in a big loom
[02:23:20] <renesis> sttach that to shit with some cable loops
[02:23:31] <renesis> zip ties if you must
[02:23:36] <renesis> dont zip ties cables
[02:23:50] <renesis> but ziptie the plastic loom stuff is cool
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[02:24:54] <renesis> zeeshan: i wouldnt use that for anything except huge 2-4 lead cables with lots of fill and heavy outer insulation
[02:25:08] <zeeshan> most of my cables
[02:25:12] <zeeshan> have a thick pvc jacket
[02:25:15] <zeeshan> from factory cnc
[02:25:28] <renesis> right dont clamp that shit its 100 years old
[02:25:34] <renesis> its some dinosaur cable
[02:26:05] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15540544082/
[02:26:11] <zeeshan> you can kinda see the factory plastic conduit
[02:26:31] <zeeshan> maybe i should just reuse it
[02:26:31] <zeeshan> :P
[02:26:39] <zeeshan> i have the connectors for it too
[02:26:44] <renesis> they make strain relief clamps that kind of fold over and pop into place
[02:26:52] <zeeshan> they had a bar inside the cabinet
[02:26:59] <zeeshan> where all the wires were tied to
[02:27:00] <renesis> but if thickness and cutout arent perfect they dont work awesome
[02:27:01] <zeeshan> for strain relief
[02:27:04] <jdh> what's the shiny metal thing sticking out of the front of the spindle?
[02:27:22] <zeeshan> work light
[02:27:34] <jdh> round thing
[02:27:39] <zeeshan> oh
[02:27:42] <zeeshan> to move quill up and down
[02:27:52] <zeeshan> theres supposed to be a handwheel that goes there
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[02:28:05] <zeeshan> http://www.innovac.de/images/96721.jpg
[02:28:23] <zeeshan> so the main question is
[02:28:33] <zeeshan> is it a bad idea to route vfd wires and servo wires together
[02:28:45] <zeeshan> servo wires are shielded
[02:28:49] <zeeshan> so is tacho wires.
[02:28:52] <zeeshan> but vfd wires arent.
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[02:37:20] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: lol
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[05:15:20] <t12_> that really took a while
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[07:27:30] <anonimasu> hmm..
[07:27:42] * anonimasu is fighting hm2 firmwares
[07:36:34] <Jymmm> anonimasu: Your Firmware-Fu is no good!
[07:36:49] <anonimasu> not really :S
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[07:37:18] <Jymmm> You must become ne with the firmware grasshopper
[07:37:24] <Jymmm> one*
[07:37:30] <anonimasu> :)
[07:37:39] <anonimasu> im trying to get to test this damn plasma -_-
[07:37:52] <Jymmm> did you lick it?
[07:38:27] <anonimasu> the firmware.... no it tastes kind of rancid
[07:38:49] <Jymmm> You must lick the plasma to become one with the plasma
[07:39:06] <Jymmm> ...and acheive harmony
[07:39:23] <anonimasu> I have perfect harmony this week
[07:39:33] <Jymmm> $20 sats otherwise =)
[07:39:37] <Jymmm> says
[07:39:54] <anonimasu> new/old vmc day is arriving
[07:40:26] <Jymmm> that's not harmony, that's delivery =)
[07:41:25] <Jymmm> anonimasu: And I shall quote the great divide...
http://www.mdxers.org/forums/attachments/general-off-topic/16296d1076766644-fedex-vs-ups-your-thoughts-fedexups.jpg
[07:41:44] <anonimasu> they will not ship a maho mh-700s :D
[07:42:32] <Jymmm> for enough money, they will deliver SAME DAY
http://www.fedex.com/us/fedex/shippingservices/package/sameday.html
[07:44:08] <anonimasu> I found a machine that they had for prototype moldmaking(very limited one)
[07:44:49] <anonimasu> no production runs on it, and all the documentation since the machine was brand new
[07:45:14] <Jymmm> prototype? As in no mold is needed?
[07:45:45] <anonimasu> as in, we make one mold to see that it will fit for the machine's we build and we make others make series production
[07:46:18] <Jymmm> I'll take your word for it.
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[13:45:02] <JT-Memphis> how is move off coming along?
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[13:58:10] <Tecan> move off ?
[13:58:35] * Tecan lights a candle on fire then shoots it with a shotgun
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[13:59:39] <Tecan> moving day for someone ?
[14:17:33] <ssi> morn
[14:17:57] <ssi> enco is doing 20% off and free shipping today and tomorrow
[14:18:05] <ssi> I should take that opportunity to get some tooling for the new lathe!
[14:24:34] <Tecan> free shipping on a whole lathe to canada do you think ?
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[14:25:26] <ssi> maybe! ;)
[14:25:33] <ssi> they're claiming free shipping on 9x42 mills
[14:27:52] <ssi> I was gonna get some QCTP holders for it, but the enco price before discount is TWICE what the shars price is, so the discount doesn't really help :P
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[14:42:44] <ssi> it's got an AXA post on it, and came with just a couple holders
[14:43:12] <ssi> I need to see if a BXA post will work on it, cause I have a lot of BXA tooling already for the griz, and it'd be nice to be able to interchange
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[15:09:40] <GentileBen> Why does #emc redirect to here?
[15:10:32] <Tecan> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Real-Rabbit-Foot-Lucky-Keychain-Vraie-Patte-de-Lapin-Chanceuse-FREE-USA-SHIPPING-/261662742227?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cec5096d3
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[15:11:47] <ssi> pete
[15:12:03] <PetefromTn_> yeah
[15:12:25] <ssi> what's up
[15:12:52] <PetefromTn_> not much trying to finsh up my AC installation.
[15:13:07] <ssi> still working on that huh
[15:13:11] <ssi> sounds like a pain
[15:13:21] <PetefromTn_> went thru my entire crawlspace looking for leaks etc.
[15:13:37] <PetefromTn_> trying to insulate everything
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[15:13:52] <PetefromTn_> but yeah its a pain in the ass
[15:14:03] <PetefromTn_> not fun crawling under the house
[15:15:12] <PetefromTn_> but I figure it was either I do it myself right the first time or pay another jackass hack thousands of dollars to screw it up for me.
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[15:15:21] <ssi> that's pretty much how it goes
[15:16:24] <PetefromTn_> it has been in my experience so far anyways.
[15:16:27] <ssi> man this new lathe of mine is unbelievably sweet
[15:16:33] <PetefromTn_> nice
[15:16:34] <ssi> I'm really glad I snagged it
[15:16:38] <PetefromTn_> glad to hear it
[15:16:54] <ssi> it's small, but it's in very good shape, and it's a very precise machine
[15:17:02] <PetefromTn_> Im sure
[15:17:18] <ssi> I spent a couple hours yesterday with a bottle of degreaser and a rag shining it up
[15:17:33] <PetefromTn_> gotta love degreaser
[15:17:46] <PetefromTn_> can polish up any old turd LOL
[15:17:51] <ssi> heheh
[15:18:00] <ssi> got it leveled and wired
[15:18:05] <PetefromTn_> I use that green stuff
[15:18:08] <ssi> I had to raise the headstock end of the cabinet 1/4" :o
[15:18:12] <PetefromTn_> mean green
[15:18:23] <PetefromTn_> takes off almost anything it seems
[15:18:25] <ssi> I've got a bottle of zep industrial purple concentrate
[15:18:35] <ssi> I mixed a big batch of it in the cinci
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[15:18:38] <ssi> it's still in the coolant tray
[15:18:47] <PetefromTn_> I bought some orange stuff that is just okay
[15:19:01] <PetefromTn_> funny thing is I got the mean green at the damn dollar store
[15:19:08] <PetefromTn_> and the orange stuff at home depot
[15:19:11] <ssi> heheh
[15:19:17] <PetefromTn_> the mean green works WAY better
[15:20:02] <PetefromTn_> I have not bothered to level up my CNC lathe yet
[15:20:20] <PetefromTn_> I figure I will be moving it around a lot to get the new control parts installed
[15:20:47] <ssi> yeah definitely
[15:20:55] <ssi> I leveled the cinci but I can't move the bitch anyway so it doesn't matter :)
[15:20:56] <PetefromTn_> once I get the CNC parts installed I will get it all level and clean
[15:21:03] <PetefromTn_> yeah rihgt
[15:21:05] <PetefromTn_> right
[15:21:10] <ssi> plus I have 2' behind and right of it so I can get around it
[15:21:25] <PetefromTn_> that is not one you can throw your weight into and move )
[15:21:31] <ssi> :)
[15:21:37] <ssi> I checked the level on it again yesterday actually
[15:21:41] <ssi> to verify my level was still calibrated
[15:21:45] <ssi> and it's still dead level
[15:21:51] <ssi> dunno why it wouldn't be, but good to know :)
[15:22:17] <PetefromTn_> they're so damn heavy they tend to stay put I think once they are setup.
[15:22:34] <PetefromTn_> I have heard that a lot of super fast never CNC
[15:22:46] <PetefromTn_> have to be bolted down to keep them from dancing around the shop
[15:22:58] <ssi> yeah I've heard that too
[15:23:00] <ssi> that'd be terrifying
[15:23:17] <PetefromTn_> G forces man.... G forces!!
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[15:23:47] <ssi> check this out
[15:23:47] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb4HcjZYCNo
[15:24:06] <ssi> after I made this, I swept it up the taper at archivist's suggestion and it's dead true all the way up
[15:24:09] <ssi> weee
[15:24:23] <PetefromTn_> nice
[15:24:37] <PetefromTn_> that is about what I saw on my lathe actually but I did not make a video
[15:24:54] <ssi> I took one of the buck set-tru 6 jaws that came with it and chucked up a test bar, and it ran like crap and I couldn't adjust it in
[15:25:08] <ssi> so I pulled it off the backplate, faced it and trued the spigot
[15:25:18] <ssi> now I can dial my test bar down to sub-tenth
[15:25:18] <PetefromTn_> you have more than one buck 6 jaw set tru's?
[15:25:26] <ssi> and if I pull it and re-chuck it, it runs about .0005
[15:25:29] <ssi> yeah it came with TWO
[15:25:33] <PetefromTn_> jeez
[15:25:34] <ssi> and a four jaw
[15:25:41] <ssi> yeah that's why it was the deal of the year :)
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[15:25:51] <ssi> AND, it's the same spindle thread as my hardincge
[15:25:57] <ssi> I've never had a chuck for the hardinge, now I do
[15:25:58] <ssi> :D
[15:26:04] <PetefromTn_> I am not sure I want a six jaw or just a nice set tru three jaw with replaceable jaws
[15:26:18] <ssi> I'd prefer it had come with a six and a three
[15:26:28] <ssi> but I'm not unhappy with what it did have :)
[15:26:43] <PetefromTn_> I know the guys in the shop I used to work in did a lot of custom bolt down jaw work and it seemed to be very good and easy
[15:27:04] <ssi> my clausing came with a set-tru 6 jaw buck that was worn out as crap
[15:27:16] <ssi> it only had three jaws installed, but they were narrow 6-jaw type jaws
[15:27:23] <ssi> and they weren't straight
[15:27:26] <ssi> needed to be reground
[15:27:35] <PetefromTn_> damn
[15:27:38] <PetefromTn_> that sucks
[15:27:41] <ssi> yeah
[15:27:49] <ssi> well it's dan's problem now! :D
[15:28:06] <ssi> I sold it to him for like half what I paid for it though
[15:28:13] <PetefromTn_> I am going to probably have to wait until tax return time to get this CNC running with work the way it has been lately.
[15:28:24] <ssi> yea
[15:28:35] <ssi> I'm waiting for insurance to hurry up and pay me
[15:28:41] <ssi> I owe a bunch of people a bunch of money :(
[15:28:59] <PetefromTn_> LOL yeah I sold my 12x36 for $900.00 more than I paid for it and I think the guy got a great deal really.
[15:29:09] <ssi> yeah man that was a sweet lahte
[15:29:12] <ssi> I really was surprised
[15:29:23] <PetefromTn_> I would buy another one if I got a good deal on it.
[15:29:50] <ssi> yeah I have been watching for them
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[15:30:06] <ssi> I bought this lathe cause it seemed like a great deal, but it's smaller than I'd like
[15:30:13] <ssi> I wouldn't have bought it if the spindle bore had been smaller
[15:30:17] <ssi> but it's 1.4", which is awesome
[15:30:24] <ssi> I can do rifle work on this machine easy
[15:30:25] <PetefromTn_> it was pretty nice to have all the important stuff on it.
[15:31:01] <PetefromTn_> steady rest, follower rest, faceplate, four jaw, three jaw, dead centers, live centers, etc. etc.
[15:31:09] <ssi> yeah
[15:31:33] <PetefromTn_> all of which I no longer have sigh
[15:31:33] <ssi> you know I've never had a lathe dog
[15:31:39] <ssi> never done any work between centers
[15:31:41] <PetefromTn_> I made my own
[15:31:54] <PetefromTn_> it was a clamp type
[15:32:15] <PetefromTn_> used a single bolt thru one of the holes for the D1-4 headstock lugs
[15:32:28] <PetefromTn_> worked decent but I would not take real heavy cuts with it.
[15:32:55] <PetefromTn_> I did a lot of between centers work on that lathe.
[15:33:14] <ssi> the sb has a taper attachment on it too and I want to play with that
[15:33:21] <ssi> I'm gonna try to make some morse tapers for funsies
[15:33:22] <PetefromTn_> usually would machine a headstock center from a piece of scrap.
[15:35:09] <ssi> I can't find any of my indicators on mag bases except the two tenths indicators
[15:35:17] <ssi> I know at least one of them was in the house :/
[15:35:21] <archivist> morse tapers are oddballs
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[15:36:12] <archivist> mr morse's measuring was a bit crude
[15:36:16] <ssi> heheh
[15:36:37] <PetefromTn_> nonetheless they are in tons of machines now
[15:36:49] <archivist> funny how the errors made it into the standard
[15:37:35] <ssi> ugh I have to replace my gage block set too :(
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[15:48:26] <ssi> good lord
[15:48:36] <ssi> enco's price on a buck 6-jaw solid jaw settru chuck
[15:48:43] <ssi> $1034.26
[15:49:13] <ssi> then another $191.29 for the backplate
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[15:55:15] <PetefromTn_> shits expensive
[15:55:42] <archivist> some southbend left
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/231397356618
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[15:56:23] <ssi> yow
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[16:13:26] <Tecan> anyone here do waterjet ?
[16:13:39] <_methods> yeah
[16:13:44] <Tecan> was wondering how small the cuts go
[16:13:54] <_methods> depends on the nozzle and orifice
[16:14:06] <_methods> but i think our kerf is .04"?
[16:14:13] <_methods> or .08"
[16:14:37] <_methods> can't remember i can go check tomorrow for you if you want
[16:14:55] <Tecan> so a little bigger than a laser but still good for cutting out fine detail
[16:14:59] <_methods> compared to the laser where the kerf is like .005"
[16:15:11] <_methods> 10x the size of laser lol
[16:15:57] <_methods> depends on how fine
[16:16:33] <_methods> small stuff on waterjets can be a nightmare
[16:16:43] <_methods> you have to tab stuff in or it falls in the tank
[16:17:37] <archivist> the cut is tapered if the pressure is low, if high the nozzle wears
[16:18:23] <_methods> you have a print for what you want cut?
[16:19:37] <PetefromTn_> always thought waterjets were amazing. Then I got to run one and see how it works and was less than impressed. That is a dirty nasty machine that seemed to only work really well on thin sheet materials. The results of the cutting is a huge nasty slugdy mess. JMHO
[16:19:52] <_methods> they suck
[16:20:02] <_methods> always breaking down
[16:20:14] <PetefromTn_> nozzles break and wear
[16:20:15] <_methods> constant rebuilding the intensifier
[16:20:38] <_methods> noisy, dirty, did i mention noisy?
[16:21:06] <PetefromTn_> plasma cutters are not much better but I would rather have a CNC plasma any day really let alone a powerful CNC laser.
[16:21:20] <PetefromTn_> again JMHO
[16:21:30] <Tecan> http://www.unlimitedfab.ca/files/2813/2614/2498/Waterjet-Cutting04.jpg
[16:22:09] <_methods> that's what you want to cut?
[16:22:37] <_methods> should be doable
[16:25:33] <Rab> zeeshan, try googling "cable gland" if you're looking for power entry options.
[16:26:00] <SpeedEvil> Waterjets are easy to make.Take 20 pressure-washers, hook them up in series, each inside its own little pressurised tank
[16:26:12] <Rab> (s/power/cable/)
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[17:07:05] <ssi> my chuck bounty!
[17:07:05] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3tHjsIIIAAAjPl.jpg:large
[17:07:29] <ssi> both of them have full sets of outside and inside jaws, and the top one has a set of 3 jaw outside jaws too!
[17:07:40] <ssi> and I checked the top chuck with all three sets of jaws, and they all clamp well and run true
[17:09:08] <Tom_itx> yeah don't mix em up
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[17:17:12] <SpeedEvil> :)
[17:18:02] <ssi> Tom_itx: I was thinking about putting a letter stamp in them so I have an A set and a B set
[17:18:53] <SpeedEvil> naah - just heat one up till it goes a pretty straw colour
[17:18:57] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder:
http://openlunchbox.com/ is the contrast better now?
[17:18:58] <PetefromTn_> surprised they are not already numbered, I always put a witness mark on my jaws and marked where I started them when installed on the chuck body.
[17:21:03] <archivist> should find the jaw numbers when cleaned up
[17:21:07] <Tom_itx> ssi i hope they are numbered to their slots...
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[17:22:29] <ssi> they're numbered
[17:22:40] <ssi> but both sets are identical, so they'd be easy to mix up
[17:22:51] <ssi> when I got it, one chuck had all inside jaws in it and the other had all outside jaws in it
[17:22:53] <Tom_itx> i noticed that
[17:22:58] <ssi> so the sets are complete
[17:22:58] <archivist> no serial number as well?
[17:23:04] <Tom_itx> so mark them with letters then
[17:23:04] <ssi> archivist: on the jaws?
[17:23:09] <archivist> yes
[17:23:16] <Tom_itx> or SN like he says
[17:24:17] <ssi> not that I can find
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[17:45:48] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: yeah
[17:46:19] <XXCoder> you told em to chznge or what?
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[17:49:20] <XXCoder> CaptHindsight: check this out
http://wave.webaim.org
[17:49:35] <XXCoder> just found it, that site has minor issues
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[17:53:59] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: well some of it is at the mercy of the wordpress template used
[17:54:13] <XXCoder> dont be shamed, its very few errors
[17:54:20] <XXCoder> my faviorite has over 30
[17:54:33] <XXCoder> you need to check single contrast error though
[17:54:38] <CaptHindsight> that is the fun of software, trying to use some tool to save you time that is generally broken
[17:55:11] <CaptHindsight> that is why I prefer eating solder paste to coding :)
[17:55:21] <XXCoder> lol
[17:55:44] <archivist> wordpress, the gluegun of the web
[17:56:08] <XXCoder> capt in least I stopped one website from fading out lol
[17:56:17] <Tom_itx> ggg instead of www
[17:56:21] <XXCoder> the white virus is everywhere now
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[17:58:00] <XXCoder> great! other site which had REALLY BAD case of white virus changed text to darker blue
[17:58:15] <XXCoder> still bright blue but in least not very light gray!
[17:59:34] <CaptHindsight> all the free themes seem to be broken in one way or another
[18:00:10] <CaptHindsight> I'm not sure what you get if you trade money for them either, might just be less broken
[18:00:11] <XXCoder> other site checked. it was almost solid white. now very nicely done
[18:01:06] <archivist> you can have fugly and no contrast errors :) www.collection.archivist.info
[18:01:38] <XXCoder> archivist: lol definitely need little work - might have issues with red-blue blindness
[18:02:08] <archivist> I would question the reliability of that tool
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[18:02:12] <XXCoder> archivist: surpise! zero contrast error
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[18:02:17] <XXCoder> http://wave.webaim.org/report#/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collection.archivist.info%2F
[18:02:44] <archivist> I know I tried it, the errors are not real errors either
[18:03:08] <XXCoder> form label is very useful for blind people
[18:03:15] <XXCoder> special plugin speaks em
[18:03:32] <XXCoder> leaving it blank means can't figure what its for
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[19:13:26] <ssi> dang this little lathe runs great
[19:13:32] <ssi> just cut a test 5/8-24 thread
[19:13:46] <XXCoder> nice
[19:15:43] <XXCoder> man I need to get mine to working condion. router cnc that is
[19:15:48] <ssi> I need a propane torch
[19:15:57] <ssi> don't think I have one here
[19:16:40] <XXCoder> destroyed at house?
[19:17:02] <ssi> nah it's sitting in the garage, thoroughly undestroyed :P
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[19:17:34] <XXCoder> lol ok
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[19:18:01] <XXCoder> im still kinda amazed on bad luck I had recent thankgiving
[19:19:11] <XXCoder> not as bad as your house fire but yea
[19:19:36] <XXCoder> I was on way home when my van decided to just stop working.
[19:20:07] <XXCoder> when I got tow truck to come, he dropped me off at home and was on way to shop when had an accient
[19:20:38] <XXCoder> my van wasnt directly hit (it was on flat bed) but it seems oti damaged my van front susendation system
[19:22:21] <XXCoder> ssi: ever happened to you?
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[20:10:32] <zeeshan> i'm really confused with how this din terminal blocks work:
[20:11:17] <zeeshan> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Terminal_Blocks/DINnector_DIN-Rail_Terminal_Blocks/Double-level_Feed-Through_Terminal_Blocks/DN-D10-A
[20:11:42] <zeeshan> is there anyway to join em
[20:11:45] <zeeshan> side by side
[20:11:49] <zeeshan> to make like a 24vdc rail?
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[20:19:47] <cpresser> zeeshan: there are connectors you can put on top to bridge individual clamps
[20:20:02] <zeeshan> hm
[20:20:19] <zeeshan> i've been trying to look
[20:20:21] <zeeshan> but i think im search for the wrong terms
[20:20:34] <cpresser> that is what the center hole is for
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[20:20:48] <cpresser> i dont have a clue how they are called, sorry
[20:21:00] <zeeshan> can you use them as a neutral bus?
[20:21:06] <zeeshan> as long as they're rated for the current?
[20:21:34] <cpresser> https://www.phoenixcontact.com/assets/images_ed/global/web_content/pic_con_a_0044864_int.jpg
[20:21:42] <zeeshan> nice
[20:21:43] <zeeshan> thats it.
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[20:22:05] <pfred1> looks like a header
[20:22:29] <zeeshan> when i search for din rail neutral bus bar
[20:22:29] <zeeshan> i get this:
[20:22:45] <zeeshan> http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/877/422/110/110422877_365.JPG
[20:22:52] <zeeshan> that doesnt look too safe cause its not insulated :P
[20:23:29] <cpresser> you dont need insulation for N or PE :)
[20:23:50] <pfred1> google is just so brain dead about some things
[20:23:54] <cpresser> usually those are not isolated inside the fuse-cabinet
[20:24:17] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15289716823/
[20:24:26] <zeeshan> they will big going next to those big j style fuse holders
[20:24:29] <pfred1> google should provide a service where you get to punch one of those punching clowns
[20:24:32] <zeeshan> both ground annd neutral
[20:24:39] <zeeshan> thats why i was hoping to find insulated ones
[20:24:41] <pfred1> and it'd feed back into the network
[20:24:43] <zeeshan> its kinda tight there
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[20:25:20] <cathode> heyo
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[20:26:15] <Tom_itx> zeeshan how much current do you need on the 24v rail?
[20:26:27] <zeeshan> 15A
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[20:26:43] <Tom_itx> i don't think the mesa common block would handle that
[20:26:54] <zeeshan> the neutral needs to be rated for 100A
[20:26:56] <zeeshan> same w/ ground
[20:27:01] <Tom_itx> no way
[20:27:13] <zeeshan> i have a 100A block from a fuse panel
[20:27:16] <zeeshan> but theyre not insulated
[20:27:36] <zeeshan> ground i dont care about
[20:27:41] <zeeshan> but neutral it'd be nice to have insulated
[20:28:15] <cathode> 100A @ 24v?
[20:28:18] <zeeshan> https://www.flickr.com/photos/128539016@N05/15418489479/
[20:28:24] <zeeshan> thats the neutral bus bar
[20:29:32] <Tom_itx> mount a breaker box
[20:30:57] <zeeshan> i dont need a breaker box
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[20:31:02] <zeeshan> i have fuses
[20:31:07] <zeeshan> i just need a neutral bus bar :/
[20:31:12] <zeeshan> that is insulated
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[20:31:43] <cathode> so, question for people. lets say i wanted to make a decent size CNC mill for wood and metal, would it make sense to start off with a tiny limited version and use that to 'bootstrap' the larger mill by fabricating a lot of my own parts?
[20:32:01] <Tom_itx> go big or go home
[20:32:22] <cathode> i see stuff like this and i think "i would never rely on this for anything meaningful" but it might be good enough to make parts for a real machine.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Easy-to-Build-Desk-Top-3-Axis-CNC-Milling-Machine/
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[20:53:08] <Tom_itx> depends what you want and what you have room for
[20:53:27] <Tom_itx> if i had room i'd get a big one with a broken control to convert
[20:55:50] <Connor> zeeshan:
http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Terminal_Blocks/Screwless_DIN-Rail_Terminal_Blocks/Single-level_Terminal_Blocks_-a-_Accessories/DN-24J4Y for use with any DN-T10-A, DN-D10-A, DN-M10-A and DN-Q10-A series terminal block.
[20:56:06] <Connor> I use the screw style in mine..
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[21:20:34] <Tecan> http://www.haskel.com/Haskel/en/Products/Pneumatic-Pumps/Liquid-Pumps/-2-HP-Air-Driven-Pump-Models
[21:21:04] <Tecan> 10k psi for waterjet
[21:22:23] <Tecan> suposedly its what the guy on hackaday used
[21:23:45] <Tecan> why does this hobby cost so much :)
[21:23:53] <Tom_itx> find one that doesn't
[21:24:06] <Tom_itx> oh and good luck with that...
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[21:25:07] <Tecan> i know a guy with a table so theres no need to make one but to buy there in the 50k dollar range
[21:26:34] <Tecan> 90k on ebay
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[21:27:04] <pfred1> a good water jet can set you back a cool mil
[21:27:13] <Tecan> holy jeeze
[21:27:21] <pfred1> I met a guy at a craft show that had one
[21:27:26] <pfred1> he ran it 24/7
[21:27:44] <Tecan> youd have to just to pay it off
[21:27:53] <pfred1> he'd stack steel plates in it a foot high and cut them all in one go
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[21:28:53] <pfred1> beautiful finish was like you sanded all of the edges
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[21:29:42] <pfred1> Tecan yeah, he had kind of a wild sleepless look in his eyes
[21:30:02] <pfred1> like he was sweating those bank payments or something
[21:30:32] <Tecan> yeah its hard doing all the work and trying to find buyers for it too
[21:30:44] <Tecan> one man bands are getting rarer
[21:32:08] <Tecan> you think to yourself , oh im connected to a global market but when it comes time to push the product you actually need retail
[21:32:42] <Tecan> kickstarter and indigogo never work for me
[21:33:33] <pfred1> oh he had people working for him
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[22:01:07] <Deejay> gn8
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