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[06:43:52] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/jgJ3EZc.png
[06:43:57] <zeeshan> woohoo
[06:43:59] <zeeshan> success
[06:47:01] <XXCoder> whats you do
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[06:52:32] <zeeshan> vfd is working
[06:52:35] <zeeshan> but i have an issue now
[06:52:41] <zeeshan> it wont die if i pull the communications cable
[06:52:44] <zeeshan> it keeps running
[06:52:48] <zeeshan> even though the watchdog is on..
[06:53:44] <zeeshan> its weird my other vfd dies
[06:53:49] <zeeshan> if i pull the cable
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[07:15:08] <Tecan> nano actually looks notbad for editing
[07:16:19] <Tecan> how did you get it to do that
[07:16:21] <zeeshan> only thing its missing is line numbers
[07:16:29] <zeeshan> do what
[07:16:40] <Tecan> syntax highlighting
[07:16:45] <zeeshan> no idea lol
[07:16:47] <zeeshan> its like that default
[07:16:57] <Tecan> not mine
[07:17:06] <Tecan> oh i'll try a c file
[07:17:44] <Tecan> nope and mines newer than yours
[07:17:48] <Tecan> 2.3.2
[07:18:35] <zeeshan> weird
[07:19:46] <zeeshan> man this is driving me insane
[07:19:53] <zeeshan> the damn watchdog isnt doing its job
[07:25:00] <Tecan> added a couple lines to .nanorc and it works now, coolness
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[07:26:32] <zeeshan> nice
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[07:48:28] <Deejay> moin
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[08:33:51] <Loetmichel> soo, e-cig juice just arrived... now i can drive to my sister and rewire her house... i should order that stuff way in advance, not when the last bottle is empty ;-)
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[08:51:20] <Jymmmm> Loetmichel: veggie based?
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[08:52:04] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: normal 50/50 mix of propyloene glycol and vegetable glycerin
[08:52:32] <Jymmm> "normal" I thught it was 100% glycol?
[08:53:28] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: where did you order from?
[08:53:59] <Loetmichel> www.dampfplanet.de
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[09:07:59] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: thanks
[09:14:58] <renesis> i dont think there is a normal
[09:15:50] <renesis> i usually get 50/50, lots of small batch sellers are double secret pg/vg ratio
[09:16:24] <renesis> but when i was into 100% vg not like it was hard to find
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[17:12:10] <_methods> all this silence in hear must mean everyone is working on some awesome projects
[17:12:20] <_methods> take pics!!!!!
[17:13:06] <renesis> im about to murder some acrylic with questionable fixturing
[17:13:08] <archivist> I washed my jeans ready for monday, I am not taking pics!
[17:13:26] <_methods> hahah i'm about to wreck up some pcb myself
[17:13:35] <_methods> with said questionable fixturing
[17:14:56] <ssi> I'm sitting on my ass
[17:15:01] <ssi> but soon I think I'll go down and wire up the SB
[17:15:10] <_methods> well i'm sure you need a break
[17:15:23] <_methods> you've had enough excitement for a few years i'm sure
[17:15:38] <ssi> heheh
[17:15:45] <ssi> I did take some pics tho, putting them up now
[17:16:09] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3n_8aGIIAAWmy6.jpg:large
[17:16:16] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3n_-RBIcAAw0M4.jpg:large
[17:16:24] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3oACALIUAEGSWK.jpg:large
[17:16:30] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3oADLhIEAA6tn0.jpg:large
[17:18:23] <_methods> yeah man looks good
[17:18:23] <archivist> what is the extra lever on the bottom of the saddle
[17:19:20] <_methods> i think that's the feed lever
[17:19:25] <_methods> cross nut is far right
[17:19:37] <_methods> cross slide feed is right under cross slide
[17:20:08] <_methods> nice its got the taper attachment too
[17:20:13] <renesis> im using post-it note shim stock =\
[17:20:33] <_methods> i use soda cans
[17:22:25] <pcw_home> I saw a trick for opening a padlock with a a bit of a soda can
[17:22:50] <archivist> mine is a rotating knob for the fine feed grip
[17:27:24] <_methods> yeah i saw that soda can thing from some defcon video
[17:27:29] <ssi> I haven't gotten into running it yet, but I think:
[17:27:56] <ssi> teh one one the right is the longitudinal halfnut, the one on the left is the power crossfeed, and teh one in between is fwd/neutral/reverse for the crossfeed
[17:28:38] <ssi> I'm debating whether I should take it apart, clean it up, and paint it before I start using it
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[17:29:07] <ssi> probably shouldn't :P
[17:29:51] <_methods> that's an undertaking
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[17:30:39] <archivist> I can see many similarities with my earlier southbend
[17:32:16] <ssi> it's an undertaking
[17:32:21] <ssi> but stuff like this is unholy inspiring
[17:32:22] <ssi> http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/south-bend-lathes/heavy-10-restoration-213514/index3.html#post1496654
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[17:33:42] <archivist> ouch far too shiny error al line one
[17:33:48] <ssi> hahaha
[17:34:45] <archivist> I started painting mine more than once
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=southbend
[17:36:01] <ssi> that green is kinda horrible ;)
[17:36:32] <ssi> yours is an older single-tumbler machine
[17:36:35] <ssi> mine's early 60s I think
[17:36:48] <archivist> I think mine is wartime
[17:37:46] <ssi> yeah looks about right
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[17:41:01] <ssi> I wonder if I can put a lever collet closer on this lathe
[17:41:05] <ssi> it came with a handwheel closer
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[19:33:22] <renesis> guys guys
[19:33:25] <renesis> i made a clamp
[19:33:28] <renesis> http://imgur.com/1HsCICm
[19:33:35] <renesis> for tewb
[19:34:09] <renesis> almost, i still have to machine holes for screws, should have done first
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[19:35:13] <renesis> thats solidworks, imported as sldprt into fusion360, posted as tormach or who knows
[19:36:43] <renesis> if you look close you can see where i fucked up
[19:38:40] <renesis> i forgot to tram column before, motor stalled doing something near a wall for the little square nut step,thre off the x and y for everything else =\
[19:39:15] <renesis> also bottom is kind of nasty because just snapped off and filed the last .010 or so
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[19:42:29] <SpeedEvil> why perspex?
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[19:47:27] <XXCoder> man I love this geeky comic lol
http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2014/11/29/scooby-doo-vs-doctor-who-comic/
[19:50:41] <XXCoder> ssi: damn lathe looks good after restore
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[19:54:03] <Swapper> anyone know what a good pullup resistor would be for a Mesa 7i77 input ?
[19:54:06] <Swapper> 24v
[19:54:10] <Swapper> field voltage
[19:54:41] <zeeshan> i was told 200 ohms
[19:54:47] <Swapper> ok
[19:55:19] <Swapper> guess worst ting that happen is that i short the psu
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[20:00:40] <renesis> speedevil: because i have so much
[20:01:30] <renesis> wow @ 200R
[20:02:30] * SpeedEvil is contemplating a 2.4m long boring bar.
[20:02:31] <renesis> thats like, 120mA, so like 2.5w?
[20:02:41] <renesis> thats a badass pullup
[20:02:42] <SpeedEvil> Fortunately, just to cut foam.
[20:03:02] <jdh> perhaps he left out a 2.
[20:03:19] <renesis> 2200?
[20:03:29] <jdh> yes
[20:03:39] <renesis> thats just a healthy pullup
[20:04:01] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3omW3vIEAA7_6Z.jpg:large
[20:04:04] <ssi> clean lathe! :D
[20:04:13] <renesis> and that still a half watt resistor
[20:04:16] <renesis> =\
[20:04:19] <jdh> nice. another lathe?
[20:04:26] <ssi> yeah, what's it to ya? ;)
[20:04:32] <XXCoder> lathes. all way down
[20:04:36] <jdh> I'm all for multiple lathes
[20:04:37] <Swapper> renesis: ty for the info :)
[20:04:48] <ssi> I sold my clausing
[20:04:53] <ssi> so now I'm back up to exactly 1 manual lathe
[20:05:11] <jdh> and 2 cnc?
[20:05:15] <ssi> yeah
[20:05:21] <ssi> but the griz is on the floor at the moment :P
[20:05:53] <renesis> we have clausing at school, neat castings for the beds
[20:06:08] <ssi> so far I like the southbend better than the clausing
[20:06:19] <ssi> clausing was much bigger, but I think this is probably a better machine
[20:06:25] <Swapper> im tinkering with my touch probe, i plan on using "ground" in a 3,5mm plug to indicate to Linuxcnc that i have the tool in the spindle (shorts to ground) any thaughts on that ?
[20:06:34] <Swapper> so i can inhibit the spindle
[20:06:47] <Swapper> the touch function will go over the other two leads
[20:07:02] <renesis> 3.5mm is a shit connector
[20:07:22] <Swapper> yea, but its cheap and its for hobby use
[20:07:46] <renesis> yeah
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[20:08:17] <renesis> they dont have a lot of contact area
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[20:08:25] <Swapper> it tried to find some smart magnetic contacts that would break free if somting where to happen, but cant find any
[20:08:48] <renesis> i would suggest buying rean, theyre neutrik's consumer connector brand
[20:09:06] <renesis> they bought rean so they didnt have to have neutrik and made in china on the same package, heh
[20:09:36] <ssi> repurposed apple magsafe? :P
[20:10:00] <Swapper> yea looked at the applice magsafe but they are pricy
[20:10:05] <Swapper> and flimsy
[20:10:26] <Swapper> ill try with my little 3,5 and see if i get any prob.
[20:10:38] <Swapper> Not that much usage of it anyhow i guess
[20:10:41] <renesis> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/888451-REG/Neutrik_nys231_3_5mm_STEREO_PLUG_NICKEL_SILVER.html
[20:10:56] <renesis> ^would trust
[20:11:07] <Connor> is there a hal component that can take a bunch of inputs.. and mux them down to a binary output to use with mux4 or mux8 to get a specific value out ?
[20:11:09] <renesis> dont buy switchcraft
[20:11:20] <Connor> http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/hardware/mpg.html
[20:11:46] <Connor> Figure 2.0 Setting the scales for mux4.0 -- I will be using more than 3 inputs..
[20:11:52] <renesis> swapper: also make sure your inputs can handle being shorted
[20:11:59] <renesis> because thats going to happen
[20:12:25] <SpeedEvil> shorted to every available voltage in the system
[20:12:29] <Swapper> renesis: shorted? itsa mesa 7i77 and it will accept 24 in
[20:12:31] <SpeedEvil> and ideally 240VAC too
[20:12:31] <Connor> I was able to do it using 5 or components..but that's nuts.. gotta be a easier way.
[20:12:34] <SpeedEvil> ah
[20:12:35] <SpeedEvil> nvm
[20:13:02] <renesis> swapper: no like your supply to gound if you have them both on the connector
[20:13:16] <Swapper> ahh, humz
[20:13:19] <renesis> dunno what youre putting on the end of the miniplug
[20:13:21] <Swapper> that might be a prob
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[20:13:39] <renesis> yeah the tip hits sleeve and ground on the way out
[20:13:43] <ssi> Connor: lut5
[20:13:45] <renesis> and sleeve hits ground
[20:13:57] <Swapper> i have to test that, thank you
[20:14:04] <renesis> maybe look into mini xlr
[20:14:30] <renesis> or just xlr if size doesnt matter and you want cheap available plug and cables
[20:14:31] <Swapper> whats the 3,5 plugs called that detect if a plug is in the hole ?
[20:14:53] <Connor> ssi Not sure how that would work.. I looked at that comp and didn't really understand it.
[20:14:53] <renesis> usually just a switched jack
[20:14:55] <Swapper> size does matter, its hard as it is to fit in the probe adapter
[20:14:59] <renesis> they come in lots of configs
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[20:15:16] <ssi> Connor: it's a bit crazy, but it's a generic 5 input logic component
[20:15:35] <ssi> there's a python script floating around that'll let you give it a binary expression and it'll give you the function number to use for the component
[20:15:37] <renesis> also look into midi connectors
[20:16:01] <renesis> theyre a standard din connector that wont go away, buy cables any music place, get 5 contacts and shield
[20:16:03] <Swapper> i have some xlr for other stuff
[20:16:04] <ssi> Connor:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Lut5
[20:16:06] <renesis> well, maybe
[20:16:17] <Swapper> but its to bulky for this
[20:16:19] <renesis> midi cables might not run all the wires
[20:16:24] <Connor> I think I need a MUX component.. that.. well.. muxes into binary.. (not what mux4 or mux8 do)
[20:16:42] <renesis> mini-xlr is prob best option
[20:16:52] <ssi> Connor: can you express what you need as a boolean expression?
[20:17:00] <ssi> like a OR b OR c OR d?
[20:17:02] <ssi> that'd be a mux4
[20:17:23] <Connor> Not in the end. it's a scale. using a rotary switch..
[20:17:52] <Connor> 6 outputs.. off, .0001, .001, .01, .1, .2
[20:17:57] <Swapper> renesis: if i put a resistor on the 24v that going to the probe it should handle the short when i plug the probe?
[20:18:08] <ssi> Connor: pncconf is capable of generating configs which handle rotary switches for that kind of stuff
[20:18:29] <Connor> let me run up a generic config and see how it's doing it.
[20:19:45] <jdh> my shuttleexpress does somethign like that for jog speed
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[20:20:19] <renesis> swapper: yes something like that prob works
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[20:20:35] <Swapper> nice, ill try that
[20:21:04] <jdh> Connor: check the jog speed portion of:
https://github.com/araisrobo/linuxcnc/blob/master/configs/common/shuttlexpress.hal
[20:21:11] <jdh> not exactly concise though
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[20:28:14] <Connor> jdh: Dam.. That's complicated.
[20:30:35] <Connor> Hmm.. it's using something called tristate-float
[20:30:40] <Connor> I'm not seeing that comp
[20:31:12] <Connor> okay.. it's called tristate_float
[20:33:02] <renesis> charlieplexed
[20:33:14] <Connor> renesis: It's not charlieplexing.
[20:33:30] <renesis> i was joking because hiz float
[20:33:44] <Connor> it's float in, float out if enabled..
[20:33:52] <Connor> kinda strange they called it tristate
[20:34:43] <ssi> I just dropped a 6" chuck on my damn knuckle D:
[20:34:59] <ssi> my knuckle did an excellent job of protecting the ways tho! :(
[20:36:03] <_methods> ouch
[20:36:38] <ssi> it's swelling up like a balloon, but I don't think it's broken
[20:37:47] <_methods> that's usually not a good sign
[20:38:17] <_methods> you're having one hell of a year here lol
[20:38:24] <ssi> you ain't kidding ;)
[20:39:10] <_methods> that's how last year was for me
[20:39:22] <_methods> my aunt, grandma, and father all died last year
[20:39:34] <ssi> :(
[20:39:59] <_methods> it wasn't a happy year but this one has been much better
[20:44:24] <XXCoder> been bad thankgiving for me, but ouch hand
[20:44:58] <XXCoder> my van decided not to work, it was towed, and when towing the towing truck got hit with car! it apparently also deformed front suspendation
[20:45:09] <_methods> ouch
[20:45:31] <XXCoder> van wasnt directly hit but probably broke it anyway
[20:54:49] <ssi> trying to figure out how to go about getting this sb leveled
[20:58:21] <_methods> only way i know is machinist level and go to town
[20:58:47] <_methods> i guess maybe if you have one of those laser levels or a transit you could do it that way too
[20:59:44] <ssi> I have a machinists level
[20:59:48] <ssi> I mean, how am I gonna shim it :)
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[21:00:20] <_methods> ahhh
[21:00:31] <_methods> no levelers on it?
[21:00:55] <_methods> can't you shim between the stand and the lathe?
[21:03:02] <ssi> it has a fine leveler in the right foot, but that's mostly for twist
[21:03:02] <_methods> how many computers does everyone in here have in there garage/workspace? heheh
[21:03:25] <ssi> and I intend to shim between stand and lathe, but I don't really have a good supply of shim stock
[21:03:34] <_methods> coke cans
[21:03:47] <ssi> longitudinally it's taking about 0.041" under the left end of a 10" level
[21:03:55] <ssi> so I'm gonna try to calculate that out to a shim amount across the whole bed
[21:04:49] <ssi> it's 32.5" between the bed bolts
[21:04:50] <_methods> gettin all triggy
[21:05:03] <ssi> so that's liek an eighth
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[21:05:17] <ssi> not really triggy... it's 0.0041" per inch out of level
[21:06:13] <ssi> an eighth is kind of a lot
[21:06:15] <ssi> heh
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[21:42:22] <XXCoder> heh
[21:42:33] <XXCoder> wonder if anyone here can build engines
[21:47:12] <SpeedEvil> engines are trivial
[21:47:24] <SpeedEvil> evvicient, ligthtweight, compact, reliable arehard
[21:47:24] <XXCoder> I was reading about wankel
[21:47:34] <XXCoder> interesting design too bad it has couple flaws
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[21:56:16] <ssi> I can't believe how far I'm having to go to get this thing level
[21:56:49] <XXCoder> fun
[21:56:58] <ssi> having to pick one end of the cabinet up like 1/4"
[21:57:00] <XXCoder> SpeedEvil: ever made a engine?
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[22:02:11] <ssi> dang, with 1/4" under the left end of the cabinet, it's almost dead nuts longitudinally
[22:02:59] <SpeedEvil> XXCoder: yes
[22:03:17] <XXCoder> cool
[22:04:40] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:05:39] <XXCoder> any pics? kinda curious speed
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[22:37:04] <os1r1s> Connor: Did you have success with that xhc pendent?
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[22:37:53] <Connor> os1r1s: The new one looks like it's going to work. My machine is in parts, so, I've not got it installed yet.. been playing with it on my simulator.
[22:38:13] <os1r1s> Connor: Would you buy it again? Debating on getting one myself
[22:38:30] <Connor> I can't say till I use it in production. Probably.
[22:38:43] <os1r1s> Connor: So worth the $130 or so
[22:38:49] <Connor> wish it would display 4 digits after decimal point vs 3.
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[22:38:58] <Connor> I picked it up for $89.xx
[22:39:04] <os1r1s> Ok
[22:39:52] <Connor> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Wired-USB-Handwheel-MPG-Pendant-For-Mach3-CNC-3-4-Axis-router-machine-/231287974230?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:US:1120
[22:41:31] <os1r1s> Connor: Awesome. Thanks
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[23:05:23] <cathode> hi
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[23:07:50] <cathode> i should pay a little more attention, i think. i just melted a rag onto the tip of a drill bit cause i set the drill down and didn't realize how hot the bit was
[23:13:00] <roycroft> you also shouldn't use plastic rags :)
[23:13:20] <cathode> i thought they were cotton
[23:13:26] <cathode> it surprised me too
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[23:16:16] <cathode> i was trying to drill through this material called "paperstone"
[23:17:00] <cathode> it's an extremely dense material sold for use as a countertop surface in kitchens. it's phenolic resin plus recycled paper fiber
[23:17:50] <Swapper> HPL i think its called
[23:17:53] <cathode> i have a 27" x 30" x 1-1/4" piece of it that is difficult to lift
[23:17:53] <cathode> no
[23:17:55] <cathode> it's not laminate
[23:18:04] <cathode> laminate is plastic
[23:18:57] <Swapper> ok
[23:19:35] <cathode> granted, that would be even heavier if it were the same volume
[23:20:12] <zeeshan> is it a bad idea to run 3 vfd wires parallel with 5 servo power wires?
[23:20:17] <zeeshan> along with the tacho signals? :p
[23:20:52] <cathode> zeeshan - i would avoid it if possible
[23:20:52] <Swapper> i do on my mill but its resolvers and shielded cables
[23:21:11] <cathode> use some cat6 (or cat7) for the tach signal wire
[23:21:28] <Swapper> or correction havent run the vfd but i have a servo as spindle and thats cinda the same
[23:21:29] <cathode> it's incredibly cheap and does a great job preventing interference
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[23:22:37] <zeeshan> yea its shielded cable for me too
[23:22:39] <Swapper> eya its not for not you can run 10gbit over those cables :)
[23:22:46] <zeeshan> i already have the wires from the motors
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[23:23:15] <zeeshan> ill run cat5 for analog signal wire
[23:23:16] <zeeshan> i think
[23:23:19] <Swapper> i havent seen any problems running them in the same cable hose
[23:24:03] <cathode> so, on a different note... what uses threaded bits like this?
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4NVgxNjAw/z/vzIAAOSwq7JT9jHh/$_57.JPG
[23:24:15] <cathode> is that for specific CNC equipment?
[23:25:19] <Swapper> looks like sandvik or sim
[23:25:34] <Swapper> CoroDrill
[23:25:43] <cathode> http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-24-Threaded-Carbide-Blade-100-Countersink-3090-Pilot-3-4-Diameter-/321498370162?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4adacbd072
[23:25:54] <cathode> it just says 3/8-24 threads
[23:26:07] <Swapper> http://www.sandvik.coromant.com/en-gb/products/Pages/productdetails.aspx?c=452.C1-1268-130T-C+CD10&m=6010910
[23:27:17] <cathode> how would you mount that kind of bit in a normal 3-jaw drill press chuck?
[23:27:28] <Swapper> special holder
[23:27:33] <cathode> orly.
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[23:33:46] <Swapper> Could it be a Microstop ?
[23:33:51] <Swapper> https://www.google.se/search?q=Microstop&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=wVd6VJfwKOTMygPjsIGADw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1920&bih=1099#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=IZoy28LDYhKykM%253A%3BxBdoADHt7UpxsM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.northerntool.com%252Fimages%252Fproduct%252F2000x2000%252F301%252F301113_2000x2000.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.northerntool.com%252Fshop%252Ftools%252Fproduct_200451725_200451725%3B2000%3B2000
[23:33:57] <Swapper> https://www.google.se/search?q=Microstop&oq=Microstop&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.279j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8
[23:36:52] <cathode> ah yeah
[23:37:03] <cathode> i think you're right
[23:37:45] <cathode> that looks like a highly useful thing to have
[23:39:09] <cathode> http://volvospeed.com/~volvo/Mods/countersinking_guide.html
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[23:41:12] <Swapper> some neat cuntersunk bolts there
[23:41:17] <Swapper> hex on the bottom
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[23:42:31] <cathode> yeah that's pretty fancy
[23:43:03] <cathode> the only other way you could do that would be to form a hexagonal counterbore instead of a normal countersink
[23:43:15] <cathode> or a square counterbore for a square-headed bolt
[23:44:38] <Swapper> yea, in cnc thats doable but i guess theres not that many rectangular countersinks (even tough you can make square holes)
[23:47:19] <Swapper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-ATI-Microstop-Countersink-Cage-LFD-9X-/321598068049?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ae0bd1551
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[23:56:55] <ssi> haha check this out
[23:56:55] <ssi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb4HcjZYCNo
[23:57:06] <ssi> this thing doesn't even move the needle on a .0001" dti
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[23:57:40] <Swapper> hehe
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[23:59:22] <ssi> cleaning up one of the buck set-tru 6 jaws now
[23:59:46] <ssi> pulled the backplate off and the spigot doesn't run anything like true
[23:59:49] <archivist> ssi now run up the taper with the taper turning, mine seems really good
[23:59:57] <ssi> archivist: I'll try that
