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[00:00:06] <roycroft> i definitely intend to do that
[00:00:23] <roycroft> probably for the router i'm making
[00:00:34] <roycroft> i don't have bench/floor space to dedicate to a toy
[00:00:48] <roycroft> but i have cabinet space to store some conversion parts
[00:00:57] <mblaszkiewicz> and an electric hot plate might end up being the base, make breakfast and parts at the same time
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[00:02:31] <roycroft> sure
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[00:03:12] <roycroft> you can run a little mapping routing every time you set it up to establish your base plane
[00:03:18] <roycroft> routine, not routing
[00:03:40] <mblaszkiewicz> well thanks for the advice I'll catch you all later
[00:06:03] <roycroft> take them as random comments, not advice :)
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[06:15:33] <ssi> quiet tonight!
[06:20:27] <t12_> man sx2 castings really are rough
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[06:37:50] <ssi> lol
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[07:05:41] <MrSunshine> bad picture but .. anyone can help with the settings of this driver?
http://ibin.co/1dKx3wfDSaWE
[07:06:50] <MrSunshine> motor is a 300 step 1.2 degree step angle motor ... pinion gear has 17 teeth with 4mm pitch on the rack .. i get that to 68mm, but ... if these are microsteps and the driver is set to 6000 microsteps ... that would end up at 1 800 000 steps/rev ... :P
[07:07:18] <MrSunshine> if i calculate 6000/68 i get 88 steps/mm ... but that doesnt calculate right either
[07:07:33] <MrSunshine> doing a sort of calibration i get around 350 - 380 steps/mm ...
[07:07:46] <MrSunshine> no where does the calculations end up right :P
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[07:32:20] <Deejay> moin
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[08:46:38] <archivist> MrSunshine, most have the microsteps per step, is that table assuming a standard 200 step motor?
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[08:56:42] <archivist> therefore your steps per rev will be 1.5 times more than that table
[08:58:35] <archivist> the table in the pdf does not have 6000
[09:03:58] <archivist> leadshine site does not admit to the a version suffix
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[09:33:59] <assanaway> hello guys, how i can change origin in preview (the blu star i see in the corner)
[09:35:31] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/yc4yhtI.jpg
[09:35:34] <zeeshan> it has arrived.
[09:36:50] <archivist> I only believe it when I see the in garage pic :)
[09:36:57] <zeeshan> man
[09:37:02] <zeeshan> my frigging flatbed broke down
[09:37:04] <zeeshan> on the way there
[09:37:18] <zeeshan> what a crazy last 2 days
[09:37:25] <zeeshan> the rental company paid for everything
[09:37:35] <archivist> that load is too far forward
[09:37:46] <zeeshan> archivist: thats the middle of the truck
[09:37:53] <zeeshan> where the machine sits
[09:37:58] <zeeshan> is exactly 12feet from each axle
[09:38:01] <zeeshan> its a 24' truck
[09:38:22] <zeeshan> it made a 500 km journey
[09:38:25] <zeeshan> through some crazy roads
[09:38:32] <zeeshan> with my crappy strapping
[09:38:57] <archivist> looks rather well strapped
[09:39:08] <zeeshan> it doesnt look professional
[09:39:12] <zeeshan> like the other riggers
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[09:39:42] <zeeshan> in like 6 hours
[09:39:45] <zeeshan> we're going to try to unload it
[09:39:49] <zeeshan> apparently the guy i hired
[09:39:54] <archivist> it is missing the emergency stop strap
[09:39:55] <zeeshan> expects to unload this without a forklift
[09:40:06] <zeeshan> archivist: wassat
[09:40:34] <archivist> you hit the brakes it slide forward and crushes the driver
[09:41:09] <zeeshan> theres that 1" plate
[09:41:13] <zeeshan> between us!
[09:42:33] <archivist> leave it on the truck and deliver here :)
[09:46:59] <archivist> I think the car will have to move out
[09:47:33] <zeeshan> why
[09:48:00] <zeeshan> okay im too tired to think
[09:48:02] <zeeshan> SLEEP TIME!!
[09:48:03] <zeeshan> :D
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[11:07:41] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[11:42:09] <varesa> any people with experience with using a SCR circuit to drive a (dc) spindle motor?
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[11:57:39] <SpeedEvil> Why SCR
[11:57:47] <SpeedEvil> SCRs can't easily be turned off
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[12:13:02] <Jymmm> varesa: Are you trying to do pwm speed control?
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[12:31:05] <Loetmichel> SpeedEvil: if they re GTO they can be
[12:31:08] <Loetmichel> but not all
[12:33:01] <SpeedEvil> I always forget about GTO.
[12:33:15] <SpeedEvil> (that should be a rap song)
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[12:55:59] <varesa> Jymmm: yes
[13:00:17] <Jymmm> varesa: what voltage/amperage?
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[13:11:42] <varesa> Jymmm: 200something VDC, I don't remember amperage
[13:12:15] <varesa> The mill has an thyristor based driver card which I am building microcontroller-driver for
[13:12:40] <varesa> I had a question about thyristor gate driver ICs but found an answer
[13:17:39] <SpeedEvil> :)
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[14:00:01] <mozmck> CaptHindsight: what motherboards do you like for LinuxCNC? I remember you saying some of the AMD chips did well.
[14:05:39] <CaptHindsight> the only ones we didn't like were some older Biostar PhoenomII boards, other than those everything else has worked out
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[14:07:18] <CaptHindsight> the new scheduler in RTAI for kernels >3.8 has low latency and smooth graphics and video playback
[14:08:01] <CaptHindsight> all cores are also made available
[14:09:44] <CaptHindsight> the only current issues might be using the hardware accel graphics driver
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[14:10:23] <CaptHindsight> something in X violates RTAI by talking directly to hardware
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[14:20:04] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9nonCqesLI The world’s loudest bicycle horn. Why isn't this on kickstarter?
[14:25:18] <SpeedEvil> That is not the worlds loudsst horn
[14:25:37] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKHz7wOjb9w
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[16:09:26] <gammax> Afternoon all
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[17:06:30] <Newbe> Hello Together :) the New One is here greetings from austria
[17:07:17] <PetefromTn_> hello
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[17:12:55] * Tom_itx gives Newbe a seat at the front of the class
[17:13:54] <Newbe> Thank you :)
[17:14:13] <Newbe> Sorry :) first time use of irc ./
[17:14:38] <Tom_itx> np, it's quiet here today
[17:14:51] <Tom_itx> got question just ask them
[17:14:58] <Tom_itx> and wait
[17:15:43] <Newbe> hmm ok i will try it
[17:16:17] <Newbe> i want to upgrade my linuxcnc to fpga and i am a littlebit confused
[17:16:29] <Tom_itx> mesanet.com
[17:16:44] <Tom_itx> has lots of nice cnc boards
[17:16:54] <Tom_itx> some parport and some pci buss
[17:16:58] <Newbe> i want to buy an mesa 5i25 and plug them to my bob witch is mountet in the machine
[17:16:58] <Tom_itx> soon ethernet
[17:17:23] <Newbe> i dont want o change cabeling is it able to configure in the software to my board?
[17:17:31] <Tom_itx> somewhat yes
[17:17:44] <Tom_itx> you can change bit files to a degree
[17:17:56] <Tom_itx> you will likely have to rewire some things
[17:18:07] <Newbe> i have donaloadet firmware and look the pin files but there is no one matching to my easy board
[17:18:43] <Tom_itx> it's not gonna be plug n play
[17:18:50] <Tom_itx> you will likely have to rewire some things
[17:19:40] <Newbe> and when i solder an adaptor form db25 to db25 and make the crossings there wil this work?
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[17:21:35] <Newbe> i have load the HM2 on my new debian system and there are only confusing numbers at the pins i have seen like 000 and 00 and 007 so what ^^
[17:21:37] <Tom_itx> i'd suggest a daughter card
[17:21:59] <Tom_itx> gotta run.
[17:23:04] <Newbe> i thougt about the 7i76 buts to expensive at the moment so i have to find a other reason this coms in a view years
[17:23:42] <Newbe> its all runing on it but the new pc does not have good latency above 60000
[17:25:17] <Tom_itx> stepper or servo?
[17:25:45] <Newbe> stepper and shoult get later encoders for CL
[17:26:05] <Tom_itx> get the 5i25 with the stepper combo board
[17:26:12] <Tom_itx> can't go wrong
[17:26:24] <Newbe> its a 20 channel self build optoouplerboard
[17:26:36] <Tom_itx> ok
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[17:27:16] <Newbe> it has work well the last 2 years
[17:28:31] <Newbe> i the description of the anything io are pins begin with 0 is there a configuration available without doughtercard? may be the fallback?
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[17:29:19] <Newbe> ans sorry for my english is not my native :)
[17:39:25] <Newbe> the silence mean i am wrong again :/
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[17:44:31] <ReadError> Newbe, just hang out for a bit
[17:44:37] <ReadError> pcw_home is the man to talk to
[17:44:40] <ReadError> he works there
[17:45:40] <PetefromTn_> apparently he just released some sort of optocouple relay board recently too might work for you..
[17:47:17] <Newbe> i just play with the fallback firmware there is all selectable i only can look the mesacard is on the way to me and i dont want to have a lot of magic ^^
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[17:50:46] <Newbe> ok fallback doenst have some step gen i have seen :( its verry difficult the lpt wars a hard time to get them run fine
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[17:55:28] <Newbe> thank you i will write pcw an e-mail:) i hope he isnt confused
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[18:02:01] <Newbe> einen schönen abend noch bis bald
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[18:05:29] <Newbe> thank you first time and have a nice afternoon :)
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[19:19:36] <vapula> hi, anybody know where to buy a cramps pcb in europe ?
[19:19:53] <vapula> (or a full kit, but pcb is already good)
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[19:49:31] <cpresser> vapula: thats some arduino board?
[19:50:39] <vapula> no, a beagleboard black cape for plugging pololu servo controllers
[19:51:32] <cpresser> anyway, i would tt
[19:51:39] <cpresser> try "exp tech"
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[19:51:51] <cpresser> they sell a lot of 'hacker-friendly' hardware
[19:52:56] <vapula> they do indeed, thx for the pointer. but no cramps
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[19:56:13] <PetefromTn_> Here's a question for you guys..
[19:56:25] <XXCoder> yesno
[19:56:32] <PetefromTn_> I am working on the machine here trying to get the last stuff working properly.
[19:57:04] <PetefromTn_> early on I managed to fry the machinists lamp when I applied 110v power to it and it was designed for 12v LOL
[19:57:13] <PetefromTn_> I would like to get it working again.
[19:57:36] <XXCoder> probably melted and fused wires
[19:57:37] <PetefromTn_> It is basically a 12v 55w DC bulb and OSRAM automotive style socket.
[19:57:45] <XXCoder> you'llk have to swap cables in it too
[19:57:54] <PetefromTn_> I have already replaced the wires.
[19:57:59] <XXCoder> hmm
[19:58:08] <XXCoder> wjy not literal car light socket and light?
[19:58:20] <PetefromTn_> now I need to get a 110v replacement option in there.
[19:58:40] <PetefromTn_> it is your typical headlight style plug in lamp.
[19:59:04] <PetefromTn_> http://sk.farnell.com/productimages/nio/standard/5017790.jpg
[19:59:08] <XXCoder> yeah thats why I was wondering if you could just go to junkyard pull a car headlight socket
[19:59:11] <PetefromTn_> it basically looks exactly like that.
[19:59:18] <PetefromTn_> I want to run it on 110v
[19:59:26] <XXCoder> oh dunno
[19:59:40] <PetefromTn_> back when I first fried it I remember I was able to find a lamp to replace it that was 120v
[19:59:41] <XXCoder> why HAVE to use that socket? can always rebuild it to use some other kind
[19:59:44] <PetefromTn_> now I cannot find it
[20:00:33] <PetefromTn_> I want to use that socket because the light housing already takes that style and I would prefer to not have to re-engineer it just for a change of input power.
[20:01:05] <XXCoder> ahh well good luck finding it :)
[20:01:20] <PetefromTn_> it would be nice if the bulb blows down the road to just be able to unscrew the weather proof housing and insert a new bulb.
[20:01:52] <PetefromTn_> I should have bought the lamp and socket when I had it in front of me.
[20:01:54] <XXCoder> how large is lamp space
[20:03:58] <PetefromTn_> like I said it is just like the one in that photo
[20:04:22] <XXCoder> oh I know. I meant spacing arounfd that socket
[20:05:08] <PetefromTn_> the housing is glass with a metal insert to hold the socket so there is not any way to modify it really
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[20:05:37] <XXCoder> makes me wonder if its just better to replace whole lamp
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[20:21:39] <Jymmm> That's a fog lamp bulb
[20:21:44] <Jymmm> automotive
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[20:22:05] <Jymmm> Just use a xmfr or PS and forget trying to make it 120VAC
[20:22:40] <PetefromTn_> why I already had found a 120v solution just need to find it again.
[20:22:57] <Jymmm> then why did you ask if you foudn it already? lol
[20:23:19] <PetefromTn_> plus I would like to be able to run it off the same power that runs the PC up front of the machine.
[20:23:28] <PetefromTn_> I cannot find it again it was awhile back
[20:23:44] <Jymmm> PC PS has 12V
[20:24:27] <PetefromTn_> yeah that's true but is it enough to run a 55w bulb without too much drama and hurting the computers performance?
[20:24:36] <XXCoder> http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/120v+led+light+bulb.html
[20:25:24] <Jymmm> 60W is only 5Amps, and many put out 20A on the 12V line, so I doubt it unless you exceed the PS wattage rating
[20:26:18] <Jymmm> But like XXCoder linkes to, go for LED if you are going thru all this
[20:26:28] <Jymmm> Linked*
[20:26:51] <Jymmm> both put out a lot of heat
[20:29:06] <PetefromTn_> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CINCINNATI-MILACRON-ARROW-500-CNC-ADJUSTABLE-MACHINE-LIGHT-LAMP-12V-55W-/151416756199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23412457e7
[20:29:13] <PetefromTn_> that is what the lamp looks like..
[20:29:51] <XXCoder> looks similiar as one in cnc I use heh
[20:30:00] <XXCoder> one I use is pre led though
[20:30:18] <XXCoder> it says 12v/55v?
[20:30:23] <XXCoder> er w
[20:30:47] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: These are $10, LED with an AC PS and can be mounted easily
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20169658/
[20:31:01] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: Get two of them for more light
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[20:31:52] <Jymmm> I doubt it's waterproof, but maybe some shrink tubing could fix that
[20:32:06] <Jymmm> I like mine
[20:32:29] <Jymmm> download the instruction sheet to see how it can be mounted
[20:33:14] <PetefromTn_> I don't wish to replace the lamp the one I have is excellent quality just want to make it work again the least modification and least expense way possible.
[20:33:41] <Jymmm> then leave it 12V and be done with it =)
[20:33:50] <XXCoder> yeah. did you see link for led bulbs? seems those is compitable to your lamp socket
[20:33:54] <Jymmm> a PS is the cheapest solution
[20:34:13] <Jymmm> and easiest
[20:34:53] <Jymmm> XXCoder: The bulb he linked to stays in the socket using a spring loaded wire.
[20:35:07] <Jymmm> Unless he has something unique going on.
[20:35:57] <PetefromTn_> honestly the 12 v computer power idea is a pretty good one and I will just have to go buy a bulb and wire it up.
[20:36:24] <Jymmm> Still 12V but LED
http://www.secondeals.com/product/2pcs-car-vehicle-h3-socket-25-smd-led-cold-white-fog-light-lamp-bulb-902647-hhd451-2x
[20:37:05] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: fuse the line at the soruce too.
[20:38:11] <XXCoder> yeah. make it a led and you can make it pretty darn bright
[20:38:43] <Jymmm> H3 socket...
http://www.amazon.com/Vehicle-Socket-Warm-White-Light/dp/B00FZU73A0
[20:39:34] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/Zone-Tech-Generic-LED-9-H3-6000K/dp/B00266Z8JY
[20:40:32] <Jymmm> no wattage given
[20:40:56] <koss> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B006WWQLQM/fpv-20/
[20:40:58] <koss> pineapples!
[20:41:32] <XXCoder> theres whole led lights van kit for my van
[20:41:38] <XXCoder> $120 something lol
[20:42:05] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H83135051-Replacement-Floodlamp-Search/dp/B000CO9FHS
[20:42:55] <Jymmm> I want datasheets before using LED bulbs
[20:47:51] <XXCoder> found it
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-16pcs-lot-White-12-volt-Interior-Car-LED-Lights-For-Nissan-Quest-1993-1998/1648568753.html
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[23:24:54] <roycroft> so my welding table is a bit big for my welding shop (3' x 5' fixed), and the top has become slightly warped over time
[23:25:08] <zeeshan> how thick
[23:25:11] <roycroft> i've been living with its limitations, planning on building a better, adjustable one eventually
[23:25:13] <roycroft> 1/8"
[23:25:15] <roycroft> not very thick
[23:25:18] <zeeshan> not good enough
[23:25:20] <zeeshan> my first table was 1/8
[23:25:23] <zeeshan> shit warped on me!
[23:25:24] <roycroft> today i was at harbor freight and found these:
[23:25:33] <roycroft> http://www.harborfreight.com/adjustable-steel-welding-table-61369.html
[23:25:37] <roycroft> they're on sale for $60
[23:25:42] <roycroft> i picked up a couple of them
[23:25:51] <roycroft> i don't do really heavy welding
[23:26:04] <roycroft> but i can see those warping eventually
[23:26:27] <roycroft> i think they'll be a cheap improvement over my current situation
[23:26:33] <zeeshan> zinc plated
[23:26:37] <zeeshan> is a bad idea for a welding table
[23:26:39] <zeeshan> its good way to get sick
[23:27:10] <zeeshan> sorry to dissapoint =[
[23:27:15] <zeeshan> i just telling trufth!
[23:27:16] <Jymmm> zinc plating is bad for animals too
[23:27:30] <roycroft> i eventually want to build a strong hands clone
[23:27:48] <zeeshan> i think welding 4 zinc plated bolts
[23:27:51] <zeeshan> is enough to make you sick
[23:27:56] <roycroft> hmm
[23:27:59] <zeeshan> if you sniff the smoke
[23:28:06] <roycroft> perhaps i should remove the zinc coating before i use it then
[23:28:12] <zeeshan> yes
[23:28:23] <roycroft> i have a big sandblaster rig and a respirator
[23:28:27] <roycroft> so i can do that
[23:28:49] <roycroft> i've never welded zinc plated bolts/nuts
[23:28:57] <zeeshan> its a bad idea :(
[23:28:59] <zeeshan> tell me how i know
[23:29:00] <roycroft> i always get weldable steel ones when i need to weld them
[23:29:01] <zeeshan> i got metal fume fever
[23:29:13] <zeeshan> i use non plated bolts not
[23:29:14] <zeeshan> or stainless
[23:29:19] <zeeshan> *now
[23:29:29] <roycroft> i use very few zps fasteners, period
[23:29:42] <roycroft> i mostly stock ss and black steel
[23:30:01] <roycroft> well for wood screws i guess i stock a lot of zps
[23:30:08] <roycroft> they're a lot cheaper and stronger than brass
[23:30:57] <roycroft> this is the strong hands table that i'm going to almost clone:
[23:30:59] <roycroft> http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200374165_200374165
[23:31:25] <roycroft> they have small ones that are identical to the harbor freight ones i just bought, but for $350 each
[23:31:45] <roycroft> including the zinc oxide coating
[23:32:08] <roycroft> anyway, before i ditch my old table i'll see how flat the hf ones are
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[23:48:42] <zeeshan> :D
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[23:52:47] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/Y042d8q.jpg
[23:52:50] <zeeshan> damn you guys
[23:52:51] <zeeshan> it fits
[23:52:54] <zeeshan> !
[23:53:00] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/Y042d8q.jpg
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[23:56:37] <zeeshan> http://imgur.com/a/gCq6m
[23:56:39] <zeeshan> all the pics
[23:57:46] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/7chGqM1.jpg
[23:57:49] <zeeshan> what the heck is this
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