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[01:32:44] <Mark__> anyone here good with tuning velocity servo's
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[01:52:27] <tjtr33> hello, i just found a problem with an analog feedback. it used RG59 cable with bnc connectors.
[01:52:31] <tjtr33> the RG59 solid copper broke internally from flexing in wire ways. what kind of wire might I use instead?
[01:52:53] <XXCoder> twisted ones are more flexable
[01:53:34] <XXCoder> I dont know about RG59 but CAT5 does come with solid core and twisted core, latter is many thin wires twisted into one strand so it's more flexable and wont break
[01:53:49] <tjtr33> yah, i hacked in twisted pair , shielded, it works, but its not 'for' BNC connectors
[01:54:23] <XXCoder> can buy evalant wire for BNC?
[01:54:26] <tjtr33> hmm at5 twisted pair and funny ends... think i'll try that
[01:54:49] <tjtr33> cat5
[01:54:52] <tjtr33> thx
[01:55:02] <XXCoder> depends on if it can carry amps
[01:55:29] <XXCoder> I has no idea what your RG59 could carry vs CAT5.
[01:56:21] <tjtr33> I'm on the road fixin machines, in broken arrow OK, zippo amps, 5V oscillator signal
[01:56:39] <tjtr33> the design is bad to use solid copper in flexing ways
[01:57:05] <XXCoder> yeah
[01:57:09] <XXCoder> metal fatique
[01:57:14] <tjtr33> i can try easy enuf, and got scope to chaeck the return signal
[01:58:24] <tjtr33> it was crazy the custome swore it only hapenned at this particular location in xyz and at one angle in C. well he was right but thats just where it flexed just right to open up
[01:58:30] <tjtr33> was fine otherwise
[01:58:47] <XXCoder> ow
[01:58:57] <XXCoder> I HATE ertrors that ponly happen once a while
[01:59:10] <tjtr33> i rearranged the cab;les (50 ft run ) and it appeared in another place. damn!
[01:59:44] <tjtr33> but finally forced it to recurr at will, and was able to find it quick
[02:01:05] <tjtr33> its running right now, outside the wireways, strung from control to a fishing pole to the sensor. good enuf for tests, and i dont need to crack open 50 ft of Igus
[02:01:23] <tjtr33> thx for the idea!
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[02:03:56] <tjtr33> haha i need cat5 to 2 bnc connector adapter please, ummm make that 4 please
[02:04:09] <Jymmm> ewwwwwwwww
[02:04:15] <XXCoder> BNC carries that low amp?
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[02:09:50] <tjtr33> i suppose it will carry as low as you like. i dont know of any lower limit. i found solder tail BNC at Jameco, thats a possibility
[02:10:31] <tjtr33> fah! those are jacks
[02:10:49] <XXCoder> oh I wasnt sure how much power orginial cabkles carried. if cat5 isnt enough it would warm up
[02:13:11] <tjtr33> this is just a ttl signal, the rg59 was used to protect it over that length
[02:14:28] <XXCoder> oh cat5 is very effecient on carrying signal
[02:14:48] <XXCoder> 1,000 meter is usual rating for CAT5
[02:14:50] <Jymmm> Plastic bottle mouse rat trap (with live demo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDgAuVK1Br0
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[02:17:13] <tjtr33> XXCoder, thx i think i can make these work
http://www.mpja.com/BNC-M-3PC-SOLDER-CONNECTOR-RG-59-CABLE/productinfo/25413%20RC
[02:17:18] <XXCoder> imange cnc machine needing all that length LOL
[02:17:26] <XXCoder> full kilometer
[02:17:55] <jdh> they make stranded coax
[02:18:09] <XXCoder> nice
[02:25:12] <skunkworks_> PetefromTn_: how is the fest going?
[02:26:08] <jdh> I think they are still waiting for the strippers to show up
[02:26:48] <skunkworks_> we used stranded, shielded cat5 for our encoder cables
[02:27:20] <skunkworks_> only one though moves (y axis)
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[02:28:44] <XXCoder> cable atrippers lol
[02:28:51] <XXCoder> it being cnc party and all :P
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[02:29:33] <Jymmm> How do you tune this motor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlO9VZDTWjQ
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[02:48:37] <tjtr33> skunkworks_, how are your encoder cat5 terminated? ethernet style plug? T568B?
[02:49:45] <skunkworks_> on one end it is spliced into a ttl/differential converter from digikey and on the other it goes directly into the screw terminals of mesa
[02:50:06] <tjtr33> cool thx!
[02:50:10] <skunkworks_> (our encoders we used are ttl)
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[05:54:32] <PetefromTn_> Connor Ya there man>?
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[07:01:49] <Deejay> moin
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[08:47:06] <archivist> can anyone translate биение торцев фрезы
[08:48:31] <archivist> a dimension or tolerance for a gear cutting hob item 2 on
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/data/hob/index.html
[08:49:13] <archivist> mostly translated with google translate from assumed russian
[08:49:26] <kengu> yeah, googletranslate says "palpation of center"
[08:49:46] <LeelooMinai> I think middle word has something to do with "socket" and the last one with cutting
[08:53:47] <archivist> it is odd that the data sheet nor hob has the lead angle stated (machine setter needs that info)
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[08:55:17] <LeelooMinai> Weirdly the first two words seem to designate heart beat:)
[08:59:13] <archivist> I need to iron the paper it is written on, it was folded up and stuffed in the hobs plastic container around the hob
[09:01:09] <LeelooMinai> The last one is end mill bit I think
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[09:05:28] <archivist> it may be the run out of the end faces
[09:05:38] <LeelooMinai> Maybe they mean how much of center the end mill is
[09:05:55] <LeelooMinai> off*
[09:06:02] <archivist> it is not an endmill
[09:06:10] <LeelooMinai> well, "cutter"
[09:06:14] <LeelooMinai> Whatever it is
[09:06:25] <LeelooMinai> Some cutting bit?
[09:07:57] <archivist> it may be axial run out of cutting edges
[09:08:09] <LeelooMinai> Since the first word is related to beat (like in heart beat), which is in some languages used to describe how something that rotates is aout of axis.
[09:08:25] <LeelooMinai> Yes, probably
[09:09:13] <archivist> did you look at
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/data/hob/index.html 3 is radial so 2 is likely axial
[09:09:42] <LeelooMinai> Right
[09:10:29] <archivist> refresh I updated it
[09:11:20] <LeelooMinai> But between 2 and 3 there is different wording for "cutting edges"
[09:12:14] <LeelooMinai> I think in 2 it's the whole bit runout
[09:15:33] <archivist> it is the cutter on the machine
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2014/2014_09_17_Barber_Colman_cnc/IMG_1830.JPG
[09:16:44] <archivist> I am about to use it for the first time (both machine and cutter)
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[11:11:19] <varesa> does anyone here use the machinekit/linuxcnc thing for BBB?
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[11:13:51] <varesa> I'm wondering if it's actually any good
[11:14:46] <varesa> I'd love to fit the computer inside my mill and just leave a ethernet port. Would be much cheaper that building some ITX system
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[12:05:21] <SpeedEvil> Consider what happens in 5 years when it dies.
[12:05:24] <SpeedEvil> Can you get a bbb?
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[12:05:45] <Jymmm> ebay =)
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[12:10:24] <syyl> and back with making realy small crap :D
[12:10:25] <syyl> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/24396704/Redux/pro_redux_21.JPG
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[12:11:01] <Jymmm> what is it?
[12:11:15] <syyl> the magazine catch for a pretty small m1911 ;)
[12:11:16] <archivist> itty bitty bits
[12:11:41] <Jymmm> and does the one on the left have two parts that twist?
[12:12:01] <syyl> not yet
[12:12:18] <Jymmm> OH, it looks like it does.
[12:12:27] <Jymmm> syyl: all cnc?
[12:12:37] <syyl> almost all on manual machines
[12:12:38] <syyl> :)
[12:12:45] <Jymmm> very cool =)
[12:12:51] <syyl> manual lathe, mill and pantograph mill
[12:13:03] <syyl> didnt use the cnc :D
[12:13:12] <Jymmm> Hey, whateverb works
[12:13:15] <syyl> just because...i can :D
[12:15:09] <Jymmm> Hmmm, I bugs zapped a moth, and 5m later it started twitching alive. Of course, this is just after I get done watch a japanese horror film with ghosts and vampires.
[12:15:23] <Jymmm> Good movie btw
[12:15:31] <syyl> zombiemoths
[12:15:38] <syyl> be aware
[12:15:51] <syyl> get your personal pocketflamethrower out
[12:16:09] <Jymmm> Oh no, this was MUCH better than that.
[12:16:14] <Jymmm> Rigor Mortis (2013)
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[12:16:37] <Jymmm> up on netflix
[12:17:02] <syyl> im not very much in japanese movies
[12:17:12] <Jymmm> Very well written, acted, and FX
[12:17:19] <syyl> to arkward for me ;)
[12:17:59] <Jymmm> well, subtitles is the hardest thing, Written in a western culture sorta way so not bad at all
[12:18:11] <syyl> hmm
[12:18:14] <syyl> just googled
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[12:18:34] <syyl> i was even released in german
[12:19:59] <Jymmm> No dull moments, done very well.
[12:20:22] * archivist hopes syyl used a hand rest and graver for the hand turning
[12:20:30] <syyl> naa :D
[12:20:39] <syyl> used my "big" 9x20 lathe
[12:21:54] <archivist> I am getting back into the hand turning on the lorch 65mm size
[12:22:08] <syyl> i want a small watchmakers lathe
[12:22:18] <syyl> but they are horrible expensive
[12:22:42] <syyl> schaublin 70 or something it that range
[12:23:03] <archivist> a few years back they were worth about £150 to 250, seen silly 850 on fleabay
[12:23:28] <archivist> schaublin 70 is clockmakers size
[12:23:45] <syyl> i would pay 800 if theres enough collets and other parts
[12:24:07] <archivist> seen one at 3000 pounds at a dealers
[12:24:07] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkA4T6MFL6I
[12:24:27] <syyl> i would marry it :D
[12:24:46] <Jymmm> schaublin 70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkA4T6MFL6I
[12:25:43] <Jymmm> syyl: This miniture you're making, is it operational?
[12:25:52] <syyl> i hope so ;)
[12:26:04] <syyl> im using the redux drawings
[12:26:07] <Jymmm> syyl: You're making ammo for it too?
[12:26:11] <syyl> nope
[12:26:15] <syyl> that would get me raped
[12:26:42] <Jymmm> syyl: Well, if you're going to marry a lathe, it'll be the only sex you'll get, so... eh
[12:26:47] <syyl> i think i would have to jamm a piece of carbide into the barrell
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[12:26:51] <syyl> to block it
[12:27:00] <Jymmm> why?
[12:27:17] <Jymmm> is it to scale?
[12:27:21] <syyl> yeah
[12:27:25] <Jymmm> oh
[12:27:27] <syyl> 3 times smaller
[12:27:47] <Jymmm> then you have nothing to worry about unless it takes like .22 ammo
[12:28:11] <archivist> we have real gun laws in the eu
[12:28:12] <syyl> i will not talke chances with german law on weapons ;)
[12:28:19] <syyl> *take
[12:28:40] <Jymmm> archivist: go carry a 1" pocket knife =)
[12:29:07] <syyl> http://m1911a1redux.com/
[12:29:13] <syyl> he got pretty good drawings
[12:29:15] <archivist> we have funny knife laws too
[12:29:42] <syyl> in germany you are not allowed to carry a onehanded, locking knife...
[12:30:00] <Jymmm> Tucked up laws, period. goto jail for a pocket knife with MADITORY sentancing. that's just fucke dup
[12:30:10] <Jymmm> Fucked*
[12:30:16] <syyl> even my leatherman wave is greyzone..
[12:30:34] <Jymmm> syyl: I'd be so fucked
[12:30:43] <syyl> but it counts more as a tool than a knive
[12:30:46] <syyl> so i dont bother
[12:31:07] <Jymmm> I always carry a Tool Logic SL3
[12:31:31] <Jymmm> two Waves
[12:31:36] <syyl> it looks strange bulky Oo
[12:31:45] <Jymmm> the SL3?
[12:31:46] <syyl> but i would never ditch my wave
[12:31:46] <archivist> must not carry a knife in public, technically covers a kitchen knife from the shops to home
[12:31:48] <syyl> yeah
[12:32:09] <Jymmm> syyl: Ah, it has a fire starter and a whistle in it
[12:32:37] <syyl> i have a firestarter somewhere in my backpack
[12:33:02] <Jymmm> I hae one in my pocket at all times =)
[12:33:33] <syyl> :)
[12:33:41] <syyl> i thing i used mine
[12:33:42] <syyl> hmm
[12:33:44] <syyl> once?
[12:33:47] <syyl> to start a bbq
[12:33:53] <syyl> for fun
[12:34:10] <syyl> if i realy needed a fire i used a lighter ;)
[12:34:20] <Jymmm> I saw an episode of "I shouldn't be alive" which are reenactments of real events. Once scared the crap out of me because I had been in that situation a couple years before hand.
[12:34:44] <Jymmm> Well, the thing is a lighter doesn't work in al weather
[12:34:51] <syyl> jip
[12:35:03] <syyl> i can still short out the battery of my phone
[12:35:05] <Jymmm> a firesteel will
[12:35:13] <syyl> or those in my flashlight
[12:35:17] <syyl> of the carbatterie
[12:35:17] <syyl> :D
[12:35:19] <Jymmm> if it's not dead you calling for help =)
[12:35:34] <syyl> you have never service when you need help ;)
[12:36:00] <syyl> in my mind you need many options
[12:36:10] <Jymmm> This was on the way to Reno driving over Sierra Nevadas un July with SNOW on the ground!!!
[12:36:21] <Jymmm> Snow, in july?! WTF
[12:36:24] <syyl> Oo
[12:36:30] <syyl> global warming!
[12:36:34] <syyl> uhm...
[12:36:44] <Jymmm> No cell coverage either
[12:37:09] <Jymmm> Did have access to local repeater, so no worries.
[12:37:57] <Jymmm> And didn't see a car for hours at a time either.
[12:38:14] <gonzo_nb> not sure I'd want to shoirt out lipo's, unless it was in despeartion
[12:38:30] <syyl> puncture it
[12:38:39] <syyl> gives a nive instant-fire
[12:38:40] <syyl> ;)
[12:39:11] <gonzo_nb> I've been saved by a firesteel a few times
[12:39:33] <gonzo_nb> well, saved from mising out on a cup of tea anyway
[12:39:42] <syyl> :D
[12:39:58] <gonzo_nb> when lighters have failed in the wet
[12:40:32] <Jymmm> http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/i-shouldnt-be-alive/videos/i-shouldnt-be-alive.htm
[12:40:41] <Jymmm> "Lost in the snow"
[12:40:56] <Jymmm> THAT is why I carry a firestarter!!!
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[12:41:25] <syyl> and its a basic skill
[12:41:25] <gonzo_nb> Over here, you have to be really trying to find any wildeerness
[12:41:38] <syyl> men has to be able to make fire - period
[12:43:05] <gonzo_nb> I'm still trying to master the bow drill
[12:43:09] <Jymmm> That is all they need, just fire. They could of had water, heat, and a way to signal for help.
[12:43:22] <Jymmm> needed*
[12:43:23] <gonzo_nb> though it's mainly down to selection of materials
[12:43:46] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: But, can you di it in the rain/wat materials is the thing
[12:44:34] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: I tried using a drill with dry meterial, NOT EASY
[12:45:06] <syyl> try it with a drillpress and a dowel for beginners
[12:45:14] <syyl> even then its a bit
[12:45:15] <syyl> hmm
[12:45:20] <syyl> "not so easy"
[12:45:25] <Jymmm> syyl: I know =)
[12:45:56] <Jymmm> Also, funny thing, alcohol pads SUCK as tinder
[12:46:17] <gonzo_nb> managed to get an ember without the bow, but took three of us in relay. and a hand full of blisters
[12:46:22] <syyl> shoe polish!
[12:46:27] <syyl> old indians trick
[12:46:40] <syyl> makes everything pretty flamable
[12:47:19] <Jymmm> I make my own tinder now, I can drop it in water for an hours, pull it out and light on the first spark.
[12:49:21] <Jymmm> It's funny, you watch all the videos about char cloth and the like. Yeah fuckers, drop that in water and tell me how it takes a spark easily =)
[12:49:50] <gonzo_nb> what do you use for it?
[12:50:20] <Jymmm> Oh and the "wet fire" cubes.... Yeah, that crap thin plastic packaging gets a hole in it, and the cube is no good in less than 90 days.
[12:50:58] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Many time you can find "something" for fuel, but not sprakable tinder.
[12:51:14] <gonzo_nb> I was at a bushcraft show last month, I succumb to gadgets and brought a fire piston
[12:51:18] <Jymmm> or waterproof tinder
[12:51:37] <gonzo_nb> what
[12:51:38] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Yeah, those are nice, but still need tinder
[12:52:03] <gonzo_nb> whats your tinder that work after wetting?
[12:52:27] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: jute twin and a special wax blend.
[12:54:31] <Jymmm> It's a bit tendious in making it, but it'll last 50+ years
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[12:55:23] <Jymmm> Not sure if left out in the sun or anything like that.
[12:57:00] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: I thought about doing a freeze test, but it's easy enough to warm up in a chest pocket.
[12:57:46] <gonzo_nb> birch bark is prob not too far off. the high resin content would prob help keep the water out. but not tried in anger
[12:58:37] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: I just wanted something that ignited on the first spark in good conditions. I achieved my goal =)
[12:59:18] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Yeah, I saw somethng the other day wirh birch bark and it didn't work adter a heavy rain, even when crushing the fibers.
[13:00:44] <gonzo_nb> must admit, all my experiments have just been playing. Not used in anger
[13:01:37] <Jymmm> gonzo_nb: Heh, I even cheated d0ing primative fire by using a tinder tube and cotton rope as the amber. Is STILL was hard blwing that into a flame.
[13:02:41] <Jymmm> btw char rope works MUCh better that char cloth =)
[13:03:19] <gonzo_nb> though melted nylon poss is not ideal!
[13:03:38] <Jymmm> cotton rope =)
[13:04:14] <Jymmm> and hard to source/or is pricy these days
[13:05:08] <Jymmm> Getting ready to order another one of these... LOVE EM...
https://www.dx.com/p/ultra-mini-portable-outdoor-metal-gas-stove-with-a-case-2-ag3-52063
[13:05:24] <syyl> hmm
[13:05:36] <syyl> iam a fan of liquid fuel
[13:06:33] <Jymmm> that burner plus this stand
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ARB8QRQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[13:06:39] <syyl> have the burner set of the norwegian army
[13:07:20] <Jymmm> and a 12oz can or butane work great
[13:07:26] <Jymmm> s/or/of/
[13:07:42] <Jymmm> and cheap too
[13:07:56] <Jymmm> $1.25 for 12oz of butane
[13:08:12] <Jymmm> $15 for 4oz of the special blend fuel
[13:09:47] <Jymmm> $15 for that fuel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjMIBG6SXNA
[13:10:19] <syyl> and i keep this in my car :D
[13:10:20] <syyl> http://www.outdoorfan.de/products/Outdoor-Kueche/Kocher/BW-Esbit-Kocher-mit-Brennstoff-NEU.html?refID=GOOGLE_RSS_FEED_REFID&gclid=Cj0KEQjw7vmgBRDdnLPZp7aBlroBEiQA7_NmVxjnIpO0XKitcgXrtqaB3AaUaYsJXpZXiM6y7N1sSnwaAvIj8P8HAQ
[13:10:21] <Jymmm> that tripod from amazon let you use simple butane cans
[13:10:33] <syyl> its a solid fule
[13:10:37] <syyl> *fuel
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[13:10:59] <Jymmm> Yeah, I have those too. It needs a wind shield and a grate
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[13:11:24] <Jymmm> and is slow to boil 2cups of water
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[13:11:33] <syyl> yeah
[13:11:37] <syyl> its not the fastest way
[13:11:42] <syyl> but reliable
[13:11:51] <syyl> with zero maintainance
[13:11:52] <Jymmm> well, you need two tablets to do it.
[13:12:10] <Jymmm> Uh, wanna bet? Drop the furl tabs in water for an hour =)
[13:12:18] <syyl> ;)
[13:12:36] <Jymmm> i have soem on my desk right now in fact =)
[13:12:39] <syyl> http://youtu.be/TnMMlpFMJVw
[13:12:51] <syyl> and thats the swedish alkohol stove
[13:13:05] <syyl> i like it for normal camping and festivals
[13:13:37] <Jymmm> Yeah, the problem with those is either you have to burn up all your fuel as you can't put it out, or you under do it.
[13:14:01] <Jymmm> syyl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I2LK6D9AY8
[13:14:02] <syyl> you can extinguish it with a topside down tan
[13:14:04] <syyl> *can
[13:14:15] <Jymmm> syyl: and you waste all your fuel
[13:14:54] <syyl> again right :D
[13:14:56] <syyl> hm
[13:14:56] <Jymmm> I like the esbit burner, if comes with a simmer ring, and hold 2.5oz of fuel
[13:15:16] <syyl> that esbit stove in your video looks nice
[13:15:24] <Jymmm> and the little wire handle is perfect for puting out the fire without gloves or gettign burned
[13:15:28] <syyl> bit more advanced
[13:15:53] <Jymmm> I just use denatured alcohol in it
[13:16:11] <syyl> ah cool
[13:16:16] <syyl> it runs also on booze
[13:16:25] <syyl> neat!
[13:16:27] <Jymmm> but screw tight lide to store your fuel in it
[13:17:05] <syyl> i might get one of those
[13:17:12] <Jymmm> hang on
[13:17:58] <Jymmm> syyl: GREAT little pot stand included
https://www.dx.com/p/locs-portable-camping-alcohol-stove-spirit-burner-black-golden-256330
[13:18:19] <syyl> cute :D
[13:18:24] <Jymmm> syyl: and nests inside for easy storage
[13:19:12] <Jymmm> syyl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6waCQ0GCxs
[13:20:43] <Jymmm> syyl: but carry a piece of wire cloth for a better grate =)
[13:21:26] <Jymmm> 13M?! wth, I can boil 2c of water in 6m50s
[13:21:39] <Jymmm> they must be using rubbing alcohol
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[13:23:31] <Jymmm> syyl: I just saw so many videos where it looked dangerous, top heavy, etc. I wanted somethign better=)
[13:23:55] <Jymmm> or unreliable in many cases.
[13:24:06] * Tom_itx thinks Jymmm lives in a survival hut
[13:24:25] <syyl> ;)
[13:24:34] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Hut?! That would be a luxury =)
[13:24:45] <syyl> earthhole?
[13:25:05] <Jymmm> look st this dumbass using a GLASS jar for a burner...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4REomvDj3U
[13:25:22] <syyl> you can do that
[13:25:28] <syyl> is it recommended?
[13:25:30] <syyl> hmm.
[13:25:30] <Jymmm> if a drop of water hit that jar....
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[13:26:02] <Jymmm> you now have shattering flamming glass aiming for your face!
[13:26:21] <Tom_itx> not your favorite way to go out?
[13:26:37] <Jymmm> No thanks. These people just dont think
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[13:27:04] <Jymmm> Then there are the other dumbasses "Hey, Let me try that"
[13:27:07] <Jymmm> *sigh*
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[13:27:35] <Jymmm> "I have a can of water to put it out" Uh huh...
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[13:27:46] <syyl> another darwin award ;)
[13:27:51] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Nah, I'm just a pyro is all =)
[13:28:06] <Jymmm> syyl: I wish, but they kee coming back
[13:28:42] <Jymmm> Anyhow, that tripod and burner ar ehte best combination I've found so far.
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[13:29:00] <Jymmm> Even has a piezo starter built in
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[13:29:32] <Jymmm> when you add the can of butane, it's really solid too
[13:29:41] <Jymmm> err stable.
[13:31:00] <Jymmm> As a matter of fact, I'm head ing to the flea market today to get more cans of fuel. Super cheap.
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[13:31:23] <Jymmm> 4x 12oz cans for $5
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[13:32:26] <Jymmm> and the same butane cans fit this too
http://www.webstaurantstore.com/portable-gas-stove-butane-burner-with-1-range/472E10SL.html
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[13:32:57] <Jymmm> These are inexpensive easy to use and cna be found in any asian market
[13:33:08] <Jymmm> You can cook an entire meal on one
[13:33:34] <Jymmm> great for power outage if you have electric stove.
[13:33:47] <Jymmm> or for camping
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[13:34:11] <Jymmm> easy to clean too =)
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[15:10:27] <gonzo_nb> just looked back on the chat, I think I have every one of the stoves you guys have mentioned
[15:11:17] <gonzo_nb> that screw in base to take the butane clip on carts was not the best built thing.
[15:11:49] <gonzo_nb> I used it with a tiny mantle lamp
[15:12:02] <gonzo_nb> rather than a stove.
[15:12:53] <gonzo_nb> I have a coke can stove to use with my crusader set (a bit like the sweedish mil set)
[15:13:12] <gonzo_nb> works great for making drinks
[15:13:43] <gonzo_nb> but my favourite stove is still the trangia 27 kit
[15:14:12] <gonzo_nb> that's all for Jymmm and syyl
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[17:56:50] <sharpen047> hey guys, does anyone use a vfd spindle with emc?
[17:57:29] <Jymmm> gonzo__: I've had GREAT luck with a can of BUTANE and the tripod and burner. I just ordered another tripod/burner last night and got 8 cans of butane for $9 about an hour ago.
[17:59:26] <Jymmm> gonzo__: The bonus is the butane cans also fit this tabletop burner, which is fricken awesome as well!!!
http://www.webstaurantstore.com/portable-gas-stove-butane-burner-with-1-range/472E10SL.html
[18:00:08] <archivist> sharpen047, yes, what is the real question though
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[18:00:21] <Jymmm> iirc one can will last 2.5 hours on high.
[18:01:07] <sharpen047> archivist: well i am looking at chinese spindles and have a gecko g540. i am wondering if i can set spindle speed with software rather than adjusting speed manually on the vfd
[18:01:31] <humble_sea_bass> YOU can do it with software
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[18:01:42] <humble_sea_bass> you just need a controller to manhandle it
[18:01:55] <sharpen047> the vfd doesnt have that in it?
[18:02:02] <archivist> you can use the dc speed input
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[18:02:23] <sharpen047> 0-10 volt right? i am told the gecko only outputs 5v though
[18:02:28] <humble_sea_bass> well, if you have a gpio card you can do it too
[18:02:52] <sharpen047> i only use a par port
[18:02:52] <archivist> this is not something that gecko involved in
[18:03:00] <sharpen047> ah ok
[18:03:29] <jthornton> depends on the VFD, on my BP mill I use an Automation Direct VFD and control it with linuxcnc via the gs2 component
[18:04:09] <humble_sea_bass> you can use the geckos general output pins to control the vfd
[18:04:12] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.homanndesigns.com/pdfs/EN010_V8.pdf
[18:05:08] <sharpen047> interesting.
[18:05:39] <humble_sea_bass> but if you don't have a gecko, a supported gpio card will take care of it too
[18:06:16] <sharpen047> same way? or is it through the card only?
[18:06:17] <humble_sea_bass> the forward/reverse thing is just a hi/lo flag and speed is variable voltage up to 10v
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[18:07:40] <sharpen047> wow the mesa cards have come a long way. i am also guessing they are now supported better than 3 years ago?
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[18:10:13] <sharpen047> thanks guys
[18:12:41] <Tom_itx> much better
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[18:20:45] <gene78> silly q guys. in the glade screen, left pane, has EMC Actions been renamed to VCP Actions? Is immediately below the HAL Python expander?
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[18:25:33] <gene78> I'm going to pretend it is & see how far I get.
[18:27:50] <JT-Shop> gene78, I guess your correct
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[18:31:20] <gene78> Next the tut in the integrators man says to add a hal box but does say what type. I wonder if the wiki is more uptodate than the April 2014 manual?
[18:31:31] <gene78> I'll go check
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[18:50:46] <JT-Shop> tiny bit here
http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/gladevcp/index.html
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[18:53:17] <CaptHindsight> has anyone played with the HAL2Arduino?
http://emc2arduino.wordpress.com/downloads/hal2arduino/
[18:54:05] <CaptHindsight> I'm just looking at it today, something like this would be handy to control non-realtime IO with Linuxcnc
[18:54:35] <humble_sea_bass> i have several audinos with the 64 pins
[18:54:49] <humble_sea_bass> slow weekend project?
[18:55:51] <CaptHindsight> I'd just prefer it to not use *duinos
[18:57:03] <CaptHindsight> applications where a real time Linuxcnc machine is integrated into a process line
[18:57:42] <humble_sea_bass> the newer ones use AVR chips which you can reflash and turn the duino into great input devices
[18:57:53] <humble_sea_bass> i use them for my flight sim crap
[19:00:02] <CaptHindsight> the robot uses real time but what it interacts with can use classicladder
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[19:07:27] <CaptHindsight> http://velocio.net/ace/ small embedded PLC's
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[20:24:46] <humble_sea_bass> bookmarked
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[20:32:46] <jdh> I thought g540 had a 0-10 spindle out
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[20:35:54] <humble_sea_bass> it does
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[20:36:46] <jdh> gotcha (scrollback lag)
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[20:51:34] <Deejay> gn8
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[20:51:52] <MacGalempsy> Hola
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[20:52:59] <MacGalempsy> Anyone around Arkansas?
[20:54:02] <Tom_itx> Ks
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[20:57:25] <MacGalempsy> Cool. Looking for some local linux cnc guys
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[21:01:12] <Tom_itx> JT is in Mo
[21:01:40] <MacGalempsy> That could be closer.
[21:02:03] <MacGalempsy> What kind of cnc do you work with?
[21:02:26] <Tom_itx> mine is small
[21:02:35] <Tom_itx> i've got a sherline mill but i've run the big ones
[21:02:42] <Jymmm> skunkworks is small too
[21:02:50] <Tom_itx> where's he at?
[21:02:59] <Jymmm> no clue
[21:04:42] <MacGalempsy> My cnc at the programming phase
[21:05:00] <Jymmm> !seen skunkworks
[21:05:00] <the_wench> last seen in #linuxcnc-devel 2014-09-21 07:05:50GMT 14:59:10 ago, saying joined chan
[21:05:04] <MacGalempsy> But its bern s year since had time to play
[21:05:33] <Jymmm> !seen gawd
[21:05:33] <the_wench> Never heard of the entity gawd you ask for
[21:05:55] <Jymmm> !seen bigfoot
[21:05:56] <the_wench> Never heard of the entity bigfoot you ask for
[21:05:59] <Jymmm> lol
[21:06:09] <MacGalempsy> Has the wizard improved in the last year? Lol
[21:07:18] <MacGalempsy> The reprap room hss a bot
[21:07:39] <MacGalempsy> BOTSLAP!
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[21:18:21] <skunkworks> WI
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[21:38:35] <MacGalempsy> Anyone got a cool build going?
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[21:52:57] <Jymmm> Who was looking for CAT5 to BNC baluns???
http://www.dx.com/p/utp-202a-single-channel-passive-video-audio-transceivers-black-pair-171533?utm_source=dx&utm_medium=albums&utm_campaign=20140804alarmsandsecuritysystems
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[22:24:37] <LatheBuilder> Closing in on the final stretch of my first retrofit. Anyone know of a manual fixed number of pulses jog? To derrive leadscrew pitch.
[22:26:07] <LatheBuilder> two of the three leadscrews are not accessible. Would like (if it is possible) to jog 4000 pulses and put a dial indicator on the axis to directly measure movement
[22:26:49] <Tom_itx> if you had a manual jog wheel in place...
[22:27:11] <LatheBuilder> drives are roughly tuned. I do have an hardware mpg hooked up
[22:27:42] <Tom_itx> use it's scale to determine what you need
[22:28:59] <LatheBuilder> (switching from HAL manual to user manual to read up)
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[22:29:16] <LatheBuilder> Thanks Tom_itx
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[22:32:23] <LatheBuilder> I should add, I have not yet been able to enable the drives to jog under power. Still pretty new to this.
[22:32:49] <Tom_itx> do it cautiously
[22:32:56] <LatheBuilder> as physical connections go, it should be ready now.
[22:33:55] <LatheBuilder> Ya, bit concerned I have my scaling incorrect and it will run away on drive enable (vmc weighs ~3 tons)
[22:35:19] <LatheBuilder> What I have read so far seems to fit with "do not give any commanded position other than wherever it powered up at" before scaling is correct
[22:36:57] <Tom_itx> mill?
[22:37:02] <LatheBuilder> yes
[22:37:15] <Tom_itx> put some wood blocks under Z in case it falls
[22:37:32] <LatheBuilder> good call. brb
[22:38:52] <Tom_itx> test the estop first
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[22:48:23] <LatheBuilder> back. spindle chocks in place. built the rotary phase converter with an estop wired in series with the master contactor
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[23:05:30] <jdh> live streaming?
[23:06:35] <LatheBuilder> jdh >> me?
[23:06:58] <jdh> yes. a good crash could be entertaining?
[23:07:09] <LatheBuilder> grin.
[23:07:26] <jdh> hey y'all, watch this
[23:07:43] <LatheBuilder> no power to drive amp in spite of drive enable output = on
[23:08:04] <LatheBuilder> more troubleshooting ahead
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[23:10:32] <LatheBuilder> using a mesa 5i25 with one 7i77. using channel 1, 2, & 3 for x y & z respectively. ch 0 encoder input comes from handwheel. ch 0 analog out goes to vfd. make any difference if ch 0 analog out not used for an axis?
[23:11:18] <LatheBuilder> drive enable from ch 1 analog out running to my master control contactor
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[23:14:57] <LatheBuilder> Tom_itx am I overlooking a jog by number of pulses mode? I see jog continuous and by distance only.
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[23:16:20] <PetefromTn_> Afternoon Folks!
[23:16:30] <LatheBuilder> hi Pete
[23:16:37] <PetefromTn_> Hey Lathie
[23:18:09] <LatheBuilder> you retrofitted a mill with lcnc, right?
[23:18:34] <PetefromTn_> yup running it as we speak
[23:18:46] <PetefromTn_> Connor and SSI are here with me right now too LOL
[23:19:52] <zeeshan|2> hi SSI
[23:19:53] <zeeshan|2> !!!!!!11
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[23:20:17] <LatheBuilder> cool. working through my first live startup. ran pncconf to get most of my config set.
[23:22:39] <PetefromTn_> he says hello Zeeshan LOL
[23:22:43] <zeeshan|2> :D
[23:22:48] <zeeshan|2> you guys having fun?
[23:22:50] <zeeshan|2> just machining?
[23:22:52] <LatheBuilder> been digging through the hal tutorials...looks like I have a wiring issue to sort through. Drive enable shows active signal, but servo amp is not. getting out the fluke
[23:24:01] <PetefromTn_> Trying to LOL
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[23:26:50] <PetefromTn_> Right now I am milling the adapter for Connors fourth axis and we alread got my spindle encoder installed.
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[23:29:52] <jdh> 4th axis?
[23:32:40] <zeeshan|2> pete get your atc working!!
[23:33:28] <PetefromTn_> We got the encoder beautifully installed and soldered up SSI did some beauty soldering for me on the MIlspec barrel connector LOL]
[23:33:38] <zeeshan|2> nice
[23:33:51] <zeeshan|2> sounds like a party :D
[23:33:52] <zeeshan|2> and fun
[23:33:59] <jdh> wuss
[23:34:54] <jdh> err... I mean. good!
[23:34:54] <PetefromTn_> Wuss huh... well maybe those parts we made for you could find a better home hehehe
[23:35:26] <jdh> there was plenty of room to solder, wasn't there?
[23:35:33] <jdh> encoder working, index masked?
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[23:35:54] <PetefromTn_> well actually both sides of the plug were solder cups so it was much easier than I figured it would be.
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[23:36:31] <PetefromTn_> No we have not actually hooked it up yet working on other things. This weekend is not just about my machine trying to get SSI's 0704 pullies and motor mounts machined here.
[23:36:45] <jdh> cool
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