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[00:06:54] <MC500> so deadband should be no more than .001?
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[00:25:32] <MC500> all I know about my encoder is that it says 9000 lines and is an optical encoder I would think the resolutoin is better than 100 per degree but I am not sure
[00:26:23] <PetefromTn_> Well I had something of a good idea today.. LOL
[00:26:46] <PetefromTn_> I have been working on the design for the new encoder mount for the Cincinatti
[00:27:11] <PetefromTn_> unfortunately I put the new encoder in a safe place when I received it.
[00:27:28] <PetefromTn_> and now for the life of me I cannot recall what that safe place was heheh
[00:27:50] <PetefromTn_> but I did have this other encoder that I have no base mount for
[00:28:04] <PetefromTn_> So I was looking at it this afternoon and decided to take it apart.
[00:28:05] <XXCoder> PetefromTn_: good its safe from you ;)
[00:28:14] <PetefromTn_> yup sure as hell is.
[00:28:54] <PetefromTn_> I found that inside the housing it was basically just like the old US Robotics encoders I used on the RF45 build I did.
[00:29:06] <PetefromTn_> So now I am able to use the one I THOUGHT I could not use.
[00:29:36] <PetefromTn_> I have been working on the design again now with the new screw pattern and the bare encoder disk
[00:29:55] <PetefromTn_> The original resolver had a square dust cover on top of it.
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[00:30:25] <PetefromTn_> SO I can use the encoder basically naked inside the dust cover without worry about dust or debris getting inside it.
[00:31:02] <PetefromTn_> I am going to drill and tap the holes in the mounting plate to accept either the naked one or if I find the new one at some point I can switch it over.
[00:32:10] <PetefromTn_> SO with any luck I can finally get this damn encoder installed and working
[00:33:34] <PetefromTn_> I know woopie for me right...
[00:35:15] <XXCoder> well good luck man
[00:35:21] <XXCoder> youre making better progress than me lol
[00:36:37] <PetefromTn_> well I am trying but it is slow and I need to get this done finally so I can at least rigid tap and then work on the toolchanger sequencing
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[00:45:34] <jdh> I thought you had a spindle encoder
[00:45:43] <jdh> or at least an encoder on the spindle motor
[00:45:49] <PetefromTn_> nope...
[00:45:57] <PetefromTn_> not yet at least.
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[00:46:30] <PetefromTn_> I have had one here but as I said for the life of me I cannot find it and I never finished the mount for the encoder to install it with.
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[00:49:38] <PetefromTn_> this encoder will be mounted on the spindle motor tho which causes other issues due to the 2-1 ratio of the spindle motor to spindle.
[00:50:31] <jdh> nah
[00:50:44] <jdh> need a spare input to gate the index pulse.
[00:51:41] <PetefromTn_> yeah that is what we were discussing to fix it. Connor wanted to build a real small circuit board and PetefromMesa was talking about doing it in the software of the 5i25
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[00:52:17] <jdh> save an input doing it connor's way
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[00:52:57] <PetefromTn_> well actually Pete's way the spindle output encoder lines would be used apparently so no inputs would be used I thought he said.
[00:53:48] <jdh> ignore every other Z pulse?
[00:54:05] <PetefromTn_> yeah something like that it is over my pay grade LOL
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[01:06:02] <zeeshan> spindle encoder is easy
[01:06:15] <PetefromTn_> Oh of course
[01:06:21] <zeeshan> i just bought a cnc4pc optical board
[01:06:28] <zeeshan> which is just an on/off switch
[01:06:36] <zeeshan> and fed it to an input
[01:06:48] <zeeshan> i thought the whole point of mesa cards was to have 2398123093218 inputs?
[01:07:06] <jdh> so all you get for an encoder is a single index pulse?
[01:07:24] <zeeshan> no
[01:07:37] <zeeshan> theres 2 optical switches
[01:07:44] <PetefromTn_> Funny I thought the whole point of mesa cards was to enable solid reliable integration of about anyting to a CNC
[01:07:49] <zeeshan> one picks up the index pulse the other piks up the other slots
[01:08:02] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: shrug
[01:08:03] <jdh> that's whack
[01:08:07] <zeeshan> my shits running great
[01:08:09] <zeeshan> withgout it
[01:08:16] <zeeshan> but then again i dont need like 2190321389i inputs
[01:08:31] <zeeshan> and i only run at 150ipm
[01:09:05] <zeeshan> i'm going to use the 5i25 when i convert the mill
[01:09:09] <zeeshan> cause i need a lot of i/o
[01:09:19] <zeeshan> and i want to run it at 300 ipm
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[01:09:37] <jdh> with servos
[01:09:41] <zeeshan> no!
[01:09:41] <zeeshan> steppers
[01:10:02] <zeeshan> i just know with steppers i oversize em
[01:10:09] <zeeshan> and i dont run into any of that missing step nonsense
[01:10:17] <zeeshan> prolly will run 2100oz-in on all 3 axis
[01:10:21] <zeeshan> with 3:1 on knee
[01:11:06] <zeeshan> or maybe 1200oz-in on the x and y
[01:11:09] <zeeshan> shrug
[01:14:51] <zeeshan> are small servos expensive?
[01:15:04] <zeeshan> i do want to try working with servos
[01:15:08] <zeeshan> just to get some experience with them
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[01:43:40] <ssi> zeeshan: I haven't found any affordable small servos
[01:43:47] <ssi> zeeshan: that's why I bought those parker servos off ebay
[01:45:08] <ssi> zeeshan: oh also, just because I have to rub it in, with the 100W laser I can cut 1/4" plywood at 150ipm, and if I don't run 500ipm or more when engraving, it's way too deep and small features cut through
[01:45:33] <XXCoder> lol
[01:45:51] <XXCoder> you in usa ssi? preferable near washington state :P
[01:46:19] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: look for used servos. I come across them all the time.
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[02:05:06] <zeeshan> ssi
[02:05:07] <zeeshan> ah
[02:05:12] <zeeshan> you dont have the ability to vary the voltage?
[02:05:17] <zeeshan> er the power for the laser
[02:06:26] <XXCoder> I remember reading about that zerer
[02:06:29] <XXCoder> zee
[02:06:56] <XXCoder> it lowers power as it turns and slows down so it looks even
[02:09:58] <zeeshan> ah
[02:10:20] <XXCoder> no idea if ssi use that or not
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[02:18:09] <Connor> jdh: What's the backlash on your Z ?
[02:19:12] <Connor> Trying to decide weather to go double nut on the Z.
[02:19:34] <XXCoder> yes, your cnc needs 2 nuts. ;)
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[02:35:07] <ssi> zeeshan: that is at minimum power
[02:35:18] <ssi> they won't turn on unless you run at least about 25% current
[02:35:21] <ssi> which is 25-30W
[02:35:30] <XXCoder> ssi you ever heard of that vary power at slowdowns and turns?
[02:35:41] <ssi> well I actually run in pulsed mode
[02:35:50] <ssi> so it's constant pulses per inch, regardless of velocity
[02:35:55] <ssi> so it doesn't need to lower power in the corners
[02:36:09] <ssi> and I can turn the ppi down to run slower if necessary
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[02:38:42] <XXCoder> interesting
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[03:38:04] <ssi> solidworks can't open svg
[03:38:05] <ssi> that's annoying
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[03:51:17] <XXCoder> ssi: importor?
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[04:18:17] <ssi> nope
[04:18:24] <ssi> have to convert it in illustrator or something
[04:19:09] <XXCoder> interest
[04:19:16] <XXCoder> well in least theres a way.
[04:19:18] <Jymmm> open in inkscape, export to DXF, import to SW
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[10:14:55] <jdh> Connor: I'm using 0.0029 compensation. I am still using a built-up delrin ballnut mount though that has some flex
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[10:35:10] <Jymmm> "built up"? 3d printed?
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[11:47:18] <jdh> made out of 0.375 delrin
[11:47:31] <jdh> 4 pieces, bolted together
[11:47:59] <jdh> I've been planning on making a better one out of 6061 ever since then but I haven't gotten around to it.
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[14:41:10] <JT-Shop> I have a bunch of 3/4 aluminum angle to cut to 1/2" long parts, any suggestions how to cut them to size efficiently?
[14:42:28] <jdh> hard stop = bandsaw?
[14:42:31] <PetefromTn_> I would probably just bandsaw cut them to length plus a bit extra and then batch mill them with a facemill to finished length vertically
[14:49:28] <JT-Shop> how would you hold a bunch of them at the same time?
[14:49:55] <archivist_herron> horizontal mill and slitting saw :)
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[14:54:24] <PetefromTn_> I usually put as many as will fit in the vise and use a thin strip of cardboard to equalize the thicknesses and try to square them to the spindle with an machinist square. Of course this would depend on the thickness of the angle extrusion. also depends on how many you need to make.
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[14:56:04] <jdh> how close do you have to be
[14:56:30] <JT-Shop> not very close, I just need a finished edge
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[14:57:21] <Jymmm> rasp file finish =)
[14:58:00] <Jymmm> for that fresh from the chop saw feel
[14:58:10] <jdh> belt sander
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[15:01:48] <stt_michaelz> auto-bandsaw and finish in mill with jig :p
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[15:04:52] <jdh> chop saw is probably faster and cleaner than a bandsaw
[15:05:59] <JT-Shop> hmm, I have a sudo cold saw
[15:06:58] <archivist_herron> sudo make the pseudo cold saw work for a living
[15:07:24] <JT-Shop> http://www.dewalt.com/tools/metalworking-multi-cutter-saws-dw872.aspx
[15:07:30] <archivist_herron> a little wax on the saw for a clean cut
[15:07:39] <JT-Shop> good idea
[15:08:45] <archivist_herron> back in the 1970's a DeWalt overarm saw was my day job cutting aluminium extrusions for tipper lorry bodies
[15:10:29] <Jymmm> Icut aluminum extrusion with my table saw, leaves a damn fine finish
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[15:17:12] <ssi> JT-Shop: cut the length in half several times so you double up to a bundle, then run that bundle against a hard stop in the bandsaw
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[15:45:41] <CaptHindsight> I use a 12" miter saw with a great non-ferrous blade for aluminum shapes and extrusions
http://www.tenryu.com/pra.html
[15:48:04] <CaptHindsight> probably go 14" when the motor dies beyond just brush replacement
[15:49:59] <CaptHindsight> I just deburr by hand a bit if it needs it
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[15:56:26] <JT-Shop> you use the TCG grind blade?
[15:57:18] <JT-Shop> Helpful Cutting Tip: Apply stick wax, bee fs wax, or other lubricant to carbide tip area frequently to prevent chip build-up in blade gullets or galling of the non-ferrous metal to the surfaces of the carbide tips.
[15:57:59] <CaptHindsight> yes, cut's through t-slot and other extrusions like butter
[15:58:44] <CaptHindsight> the blade cost more than the saw
[16:00:10] <JT-Shop> http://www.amazon.com/Tenryu-PRA-355100DN-Carbide-Tipped-Blade/dp/B000G1OWQ6
[16:00:19] <SpeedEvil> After lots of people told me new sawblades cut like butter, I cast a new sawblade out of butter.
[16:00:20] <SpeedEvil> Lies!
[16:00:22] <SpeedEvil> All lies!
[16:00:53] <CaptHindsight> I use the 12" version
[16:01:12] <JT-Shop> http://www.amazon.com/Tenryu-PRA-305100DN-Carbide-Tipped-Blade/dp/B00286TOAQ
[16:01:37] <JT-Shop> just a few more dollars for the 14" one
[16:01:48] <CaptHindsight> PRA-305100DN2
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[16:03:34] <CaptHindsight> I even cut plate with it using a compound slide miter saw
[16:03:41] <JT-Shop> 5/8" arbor
[16:05:30] <CaptHindsight> I use it with an adapter
[16:05:50] * SpeedEvil wishes he had a jet cutter.
[16:05:57] <SpeedEvil> I would so try cutting steel with butter.
[16:06:12] <CaptHindsight> butter jet
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[16:07:32] <CaptHindsight> butter with boron nitride
[16:08:20] <SpeedEvil> As a plus - hydraulic injection of natural oils for non-surgical enhancement.
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[16:19:59] * Loetmichel states: using the first gear of the battery drill when cutting m3 threads in Pertinax(TM) saves a bit money in thrhead cutter bits...
[16:20:35] <Loetmichel> <- has killed 3 bits today, not broken but gone blue and very ductile now ;-)
[16:21:22] * SpeedEvil quacks.
[16:21:48] <SpeedEvil> you could try retempering them
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[16:21:57] <Loetmichel> <- (after a dozen or so trheads in second gear) *sniff* *sniff* "that smells familliar..." *ouch, another one gone blue*
[16:22:53] <Loetmichel> i think a M3 thread cutter isnt desinged to be driven in at 2500 rpm ;)
[16:23:17] <Loetmichel> ... especially not in a heat isolating material ;-)
[16:24:37] <Loetmichel> SpeedEvil: it not worth the hassle
[16:24:49] <SpeedEvil> ah
[16:24:50] <SpeedEvil> :)
[16:24:51] <Loetmichel> If i remember correctyl one of these bits cost 7 eur
[16:25:09] <CaptHindsight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FR-2 = Pertinax?
[16:25:18] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: right
[16:25:50] <Loetmichel> but in 1/4" thickness
[16:25:58] <Loetmichel> made 12 of these:
[16:26:32] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=10886
[16:26:37] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=10883
[16:26:44] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=10880
[16:26:53] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=10877
[16:27:34] <Loetmichel> ... they are stacked of 6 sheets of 1/4" pertinax clad with melamin
[16:28:07] <Loetmichel> and then screwed together ;-)
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[16:29:56] <Loetmichel> (we have front doors on our PCs, and a warning tweeter when the door is open and the system running, so the customers demanded a solution to put a stick in and close the door so the annoying buzzer is quiet ;-)
[16:30:09] <Loetmichel> that thing fits into an 5.25" drive slot
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[16:31:47] <cradek> that is the most over-engineered solution I've ever seen
[16:31:50] <cradek> it's wonderful
[16:32:42] <Loetmichel> over engineered?
[16:32:44] <Loetmichel> why?
[16:33:22] <cradek> sidecutters on the beeper would have fixed the problem in 5 seconds -- instead you machine many cubic inches of aluminum
[16:34:53] <jdh> does anyone ever plug in a usb device the right way the first time?
[16:35:04] <cradek> half the time!
[16:35:06] <jdh> I would have assumed I'd have a 50% success rate, but it seems more like 5
[16:35:11] <cradek> haha
[16:35:11] <Loetmichel> the new ones have a 4mm steel ball and a spring in the drum and two 2.5mm holes in the bottom plate also, so it clicks in place in the inner and outer position. And a shitload of venting holes for the PC because all other slots are occupied so no more air intake otherwise ;-)
[16:35:24] <Jymmm> jdh: Sure, the drop of nail polish goes up =)
[16:35:33] <Loetmichel> for me its more like 30% success rate
[16:35:54] <Loetmichel> i dont use nail polis, i mark my drives miore permanently
[16:36:03] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15108
[16:36:04] <Loetmichel> :-)
[16:36:29] <jdh> you need a laser engraver
[16:36:38] <Loetmichel> (tascheninhalt= contents of (trusers) pocket)
[16:36:41] <Loetmichel> +o
[16:36:58] <Loetmichel> why? the V bit works well on the mill ;-)
[16:37:00] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: WTF is the stick withthe screw terminal block?
[16:37:12] <Loetmichel> usb_> RS485
[16:37:19] <Jymmm> ah
[16:37:24] <Loetmichel> for my LinuxCNC Mill
[16:37:43] <Loetmichel> so i can use linuxCNC to command the VFD ;-)
[16:37:59] <Loetmichel> just have to mount it there... since about march or so
[16:38:05] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: I'm surprised you haven't made a bandolear (sp) for them
[16:38:06] <Loetmichel> ... its still in my pocket ;-)
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[16:38:24] <Loetmichel> a WHAT?
[16:39:14] <Loetmichel> there is a slight fluctuation in my pockets:
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15032&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[16:39:30] <Loetmichel> but all that is smewhere in my trousers
[16:39:32] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[16:39:58] <Jymmm> Loetmichel:
http://acecase.com/images/P/bandoleer_rifles-01.jpg
[16:40:52] <Jymmm> Loetmichel:
http://www.cuttingedgetactical.com/ProductImages/p_BDL-56.jpg
[16:40:53] <Loetmichel> ah
[16:41:09] <Loetmichel> i know that as "bandoliner"
[16:41:48] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: HERE YA GO...
http://content.answcdn.com/main/content/img/getty/9/2/1834792.jpg
[16:42:06] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: your success rate should be 100% soon
http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/4/5173686/usb-type-c-connector-specification-announced
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[16:44:44] <Jymmm> "OMG It's *SO* big!" Really? WTF!!!
http://www.theverge.com/2013/9/5/4696874/galaxy-note-3-usb-3-0-power-connector-explained
[16:45:12] <Jymmm> If they keep at this, it'll be so fucking small that it's gonna snap off
[16:45:24] <Loetmichel> btdt
[16:45:28] <Loetmichel> ant my note1
[16:45:39] <Loetmichel> just repaired the cable last week
[16:45:47] <Loetmichel> because the plug snapped off ;-)
[16:46:15] <Loetmichel> was a bit of work the get the snapped off part out of the phone ;-)
[16:46:51] <jdh> you shoudl make a rotating adapter for your phone like your usb stick thing.
[16:48:03] <ssi> last night I made this little pick box for my friend
[16:48:05] <ssi> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t34.0-12/10660636_10100474406308462_464329254_n.jpg?oh=752503d42eb11fd9c6f4858b2175ce01&oe=5411211A&__gda__=1410397259_b81d419f361ab1af8136f7564709a5f0
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[16:50:42] <Loetmichel> ssi: laser?
[16:50:45] <ssi> ya
[16:50:49] <Loetmichel> nice
[16:50:59] <ssi> Loetmichel: I have the 100W RECI tube now
[16:51:03] <Loetmichel> nice
[16:51:15] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwtW8w4CQAAJDh6.jpg:large
[16:51:18] <ssi> it's a big bastard
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[16:52:02] <Loetmichel> cradek: the beeper is there for a reason: the front door is part of the emi shielding. so it shouldnt do encrytping work when the door is open. hence the beeper to remind you
[16:52:27] <Loetmichel> and because the PCs are sealed with one-time-labeps: cutomer ios not able to cut the wires ;-)
[16:52:40] <Loetmichel> ( it would be enough to pull a jumper btw ;-)
[16:52:48] <Loetmichel> labels
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[16:54:35] <Loetmichel> http://cordsen.com/images/CE_Media/_img_pdf/ATS-5550T-27A_eng.pdf <- these boxes, just a bit "modernized" with i7 cpus and more ram and bigger HDD
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[16:58:03] <Loetmichel> ssi: MarkusBec has a 80W co2. and he lives near me so i saw that in use a few times
[16:58:14] <Loetmichel> its scary without proper glasses, though ;)
[17:00:16] <Loetmichel> http://bambuser.com/v/2270235 <- thats his lasercutter ;-)
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[17:30:46] <CaptHindsight> Loetmichel: are CO2 laser tubes regulated there similar to laser pointers?
[17:30:58] <Loetmichel> no idea
[17:31:02] <Loetmichel> but i would think so
[17:31:18] <Loetmichel> its as deadly as a big laserpointer for your eyes
[17:31:21] <cpresser> Loetmichel:
http://media.ccc.de/browse/conferences/mrmcd/mrmcd14/MRMCD2014_-_6027_-_de_-_tiefbaustelle_s21_-_201409061730_-_safer_spielen_mit_lasern_-_sarahj.html
[17:31:24] <Loetmichel> if not deadlier ;-)
[17:31:41] <cpresser> i have seen MarcusBec at that event, but i am not sure if he watched this talk
[17:32:32] <cpresser> as long as your doing it inside the house, the house acts as safety compartment.
[17:32:40] <CaptHindsight> http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/brick-glasses.jpg
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[17:33:31] <Loetmichel> cpresser: i've seen i nice sing in a laser lab at an university: "protect your remaining eye!"
[17:33:37] <Loetmichel> sign
[17:34:01] <cpresser> http://ledmuseum.candlepower.us/sixth/bsl.gif
[17:34:29] <Loetmichel> yeah, like that ;-)
[17:34:32] <cpresser> http://www.threadsquad.com/products/square/219155.png
[17:34:50] <cpresser> http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/lasers_466f6f_308428.jpg
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[17:45:02] <skunkworks_> cpresser, nice video!
[17:45:11] <skunkworks_> (although I cannot speak german)
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[18:23:43] <ssi> Loetmichel: it's not that bad :)
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[19:11:20] <Loetmichel> *eboot
[19:11:29] <Loetmichel> *reboot
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[20:44:41] <Deejay> good night
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[20:51:05] <asah> AC motor brake schematics help please!
[20:51:06] <asah> https://www.dropbox.com/s/03ujc2rnz0xdqlv/maho_400e_schematics_10.png?dl=0
[20:51:21] <asah> 1Y1 is the brake setup on the motor
[20:51:39] <asah> also from the motor side:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o3seghxeooyyxf6/maho_400e_schematics_03.png?dl=0
[20:51:57] <asah> I should be applying 110v to release brake no?
[20:53:35] <asah> not releasing when I apply voltage.
[20:53:42] <asah> perhaps I am applying to wrong terminals.
[20:54:40] <asah> son schematics 10.png, what are the symbols above “motor brake” one looks like a variable resistor, the other near the ground symbol I don’t rec.
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[21:01:16] <asah> nevermind.
[21:01:18] <asah> got it.
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[21:37:16] <maZer`-> hi all
[21:37:29] <maZer`-> i got a problem with my machine i cannot solve since 2 months :(
[21:38:15] <maZer`-> every time my axis changes the direction i got a high oscilation in hal scope
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[21:38:25] <maZer`-> can someone tell me what this can be?
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[21:41:38] <maZer`-> it feels like a backlash, but doesnt matter what value of backlash i use, the f-error goes up on every direction change
[21:41:53] <JT-Shop> servo?
[21:43:02] <maZer`-> yes
[21:43:04] <maZer`-> is dc servo
[21:43:23] <Loetmichel> hmmm, it seems i didnt need to buy a new psu... a cap at the P8 adapter stabilizes it enough for no further psu shutoffs... it still chirps when massive load, though ;-) ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15268
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[21:47:33] <maZer`-> nobody idea ? :(
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[21:51:40] <JT-Shop> did you tune the axes with halscope?
[21:51:47] <maZer`-> yes i did
[21:51:51] <maZer`-> also i tried to do
[21:52:12] <JT-Shop> did you get the following error down to level that works for you?
[21:52:24] <maZer`-> yes i did
[21:52:33] <Tom_itx> PID could cause oscilations couldn't it?
[21:52:36] <maZer`-> also the line is very good until i change direction
[21:52:46] <maZer`-> my current stup is
[21:52:52] <maZer`-> p=40, i=0, d=0,8
[21:54:34] <maZer`-> and FF1=1.1 FF2=0.01
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[21:58:18] <maZer`-> But im a really n00b in the cnc things, its my first machine and i cannot give warranty that my values are good for my machine :(
[21:58:30] <asah> mazer, can you share a screenshot of your halscope trace?
[21:59:14] <JT-Shop> you don'r use backlash for a servo machine, you should have almost 0 backlash or your ballscrews or thrust bearings are shot
[22:00:26] <JT-Shop> maZer`-, are your drives velocity or torque drives?
[22:01:08] <JT-Shop> velocity tut
http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/servo.html
[22:01:23] <maZer`-> yes
[22:01:25] <maZer`-> i can do screenshot
[22:01:44] <maZer`-> yes i used your tutorial
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[22:02:00] <maZer`-> and i tuned based on your tutorial
[22:06:18] <maZer`-> http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3741/8uj2doe2_png.htm
[22:07:02] <maZer`-> http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3741/26hlfdqd_png.htm
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[22:08:22] <JT-Shop> use
http://imagebin.org/ so we don't have to look at all the spam and ads
[22:08:42] <maZer`-> ok should i reupload?
[22:09:19] <JT-Shop> I closed directupload before I got to your screenshot
[22:09:25] <maZer`-> http://imagebin.org/319222
[22:09:34] <JT-Shop> to many popup windows and crap on there
[22:09:55] <maZer`-> http://imagebin.org/319223
[22:10:05] <maZer`-> yes i see but didnt know about imagebin before :)
[22:10:14] <JT-Shop> is the spike a direction reversal?
[22:11:36] <maZer`-> yes
[22:11:53] <maZer`-> and i got always a spike if direction is changed :(
[22:12:18] <JT-Shop> that's a lot of error
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[22:12:35] <JT-Shop> you might revisit
http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/servo.html
[22:12:51] <JT-Shop> it doesn't look tuned to me but hey I'm just a beginner
[22:13:12] <maZer`-> yes but i tried all i see in your link :(
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[22:13:29] <maZer`-> without any success
[22:13:45] <maZer`-> P - Tune to maximum stiffness without oscillation.
[22:14:37] <maZer`-> i can use 200 as p value and still have not really high oscilation :(
[22:14:45] <maZer`-> what p value i should start?
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[22:16:55] <JT-Shop> keep turning it up till you find what is too much
[22:17:04] <JT-Shop> 0 everthing else first
[22:17:40] <JT-Shop> maybe you skipped this line "Adjust P until the axis oscillates after a jog then back off till stable."
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[22:21:04] <maZer`-> ahm
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[22:22:56] * JT-Shop notices the pile of parts to machine is down to 4 and it's 5 o'clock here
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[22:54:05] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, it's always 5 o'clock somewhere...
[22:54:18] * Tom_itx hands JT-Shop a cold one
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[23:03:34] <JT-Shop> thanks Tom_itx
[23:07:40] <Tom_itx> it's been a monday
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[23:20:14] <JT-Shop> been busy here too
[23:20:22] <JT-Shop> last part is in the lathe YEA!
[23:23:50] <zeeshan> hey guys
[23:23:55] <zeeshan> what kind of hand cleaner do you use?
[23:24:02] <zeeshan> i've used a bunch of different kinds
[23:24:07] <zeeshan> but im trying this new one and its awesome!!
[23:24:23] <zeeshan> http://vertexequipment.com/cart/images/P/Hand%20Cleaners.JPG
[23:24:28] <zeeshan> has no petroleum products in it
[23:24:29] <zeeshan> no pumice
[23:24:34] <zeeshan> and it works good!
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[23:27:26] <JT-Shop> I use squirrel oil... you really have to squeeze them to get the oil out
[23:27:52] <zeeshan> rofl
[23:28:10] <PetefromTn_> JT-Shop Hey man I got a question for you do you mind a PM?
[23:29:56] <JT-Shop> np
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[23:42:36] <XXCoder> JT-Shop: you doing it wrong, their fat is oil. Just cook em as steaks and oil that come out is squirrel oil. good eatin' too lol
[23:45:31] <JT-Shop> LOL
[23:45:42] <JT-Shop> I guess I can retire the wringer then
[23:46:18] <XXCoder> yep lol
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[23:53:05] <XXCoder> crazy skills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilax16LIMJo
