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[00:00:09] <Tom_itx> zeeshan|2 drill rod is generally water or oil hardened
[00:00:18] <Tom_itx> one costs more than the other
[00:00:31] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, no
[00:00:33] <zeeshan|2> how much would
[00:00:43] <zeeshan|2> like 12" of 1/2" diameter rod cost me
[00:00:46] <zeeshan|2> oil quench
[00:00:47] <zeeshan|2> vs water
[00:00:57] <JT-Shop> what are you making?
[00:01:07] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure, the local guy has 3' sticks
[00:01:17] <zeeshan|2> tips for an indent tester
[00:01:20] <zeeshan|2> for the lab
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[00:01:54] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop what do you do with your piles of dull cutters?
[00:02:22] <zeeshan|2> is tool steel easy to machine?
[00:02:23] <JT-Shop> you might need something a lot better than A2 or W1 like M2 or something in that neighborhood
[00:02:27] <zeeshan|2> is it like machining stainless?
[00:02:37] <Tom_itx> it's machineable
[00:02:47] <JT-Shop> I have a small container of tools that are not so sharp any more
[00:03:01] <JT-Shop> I use carbide for the most part so the pile grows very slow
[00:03:06] <Tom_itx> yeah
[00:03:29] <Tom_itx> wonder if it would profit to ship them to be resharpened
[00:03:39] <JT-Shop> time to strap on the feed bag guys
[00:03:43] <CaptHindsight> I usually break or chip them before I wear them out :(
[00:03:46] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
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[00:04:18] <JT-Shop> that's what usually happens to sharp edge HSS end mills
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[00:09:42] <PetefromTn_> I need to get some more insert cutters at some point. We used one style at that shop I worked in
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[00:28:36] <zeeshan|2> i made a break thru in my research today :D
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[00:28:43] <zeeshan|2> i got the SMP laminate
[00:28:46] <zeeshan|2> to start recovering
[00:28:54] <zeeshan|2> when it gets hit by a simulated stone chip
[00:28:55] <zeeshan|2> :D
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[00:45:05] <ssi> is there a hal component that can limit a value to a max/min?
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[00:47:30] <ssi> limit1, sweet
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[00:59:20] <zeeshan|2> anyone have a 3d printer here
[00:59:24] <zeeshan|2> i need something printed!
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[01:04:07] <ssi> I do
[01:04:19] <ssi> btw cutting 1/4" plywood at EIGHTY INCHES A MINUTE
[01:04:20] <ssi> WOOOOO
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[01:05:01] <zeeshan|2> ssi
[01:05:02] <zeeshan|2> what material?
[01:05:04] <zeeshan|2> abs?
[01:05:19] <XXCoder> plywood
[01:05:27] <zeeshan|2> for 3d printing
[01:05:32] <XXCoder> oh
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[01:07:03] <ssi> make that 100ipm
[01:07:05] <ssi> zeeshan|2: abs or pla
[01:07:19] <zeeshan|2> can you do rectilinear printing?
[01:07:24] <zeeshan|2> to get that fancy carbon fiber type pattern
[01:07:25] <zeeshan|2> lol
[01:07:56] <ssi> not sure what you mean :P
[01:08:04] <zeeshan|2> ignore me :P
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[01:08:39] <zeeshan|2> can you open a solidworks 2013 file
[01:08:43] <ssi> yep
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[01:08:56] <zeeshan|2> email? :D
[01:09:39] <zeeshan|2> sent
[01:11:21] <ssi> abs ok?
[01:11:36] <zeeshan|2> yes
[01:11:40] <zeeshan|2> whatever is the cheapest
[01:11:41] <zeeshan|2> :D
[01:11:52] <zeeshan|2> does that part look relatively easy to print?
[01:11:54] <XXCoder> abused banned shit
[01:12:19] <XXCoder> of course. dilios is easy to print ;)
[01:12:34] <zeeshan|2> sHH
[01:12:36] <zeeshan|2> howd you know
[01:12:36] <zeeshan|2> !
[01:12:47] <XXCoder> when ISNT it dilios?
[01:14:22] <ssi> yeah not too bad
[01:14:37] <zeeshan|2> how many sexual favors do i need to do
[01:14:39] <ssi> I'm gonna have to make the outside end the bottom, and then the screwhole flanges will be bridges
[01:14:42] <ssi> just a couple
[01:14:44] <ssi> how many do you need
[01:14:48] <zeeshan|2> 1
[01:14:57] <zeeshan|2> :{
[01:15:44] <XXCoder> B-|
[01:15:59] <zeeshan|2> its going to use 1 oz of abs
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[01:16:09] <XXCoder> B8-O
[01:16:15] <ssi> 17.9cc
[01:16:20] <ssi> not sure what the density is off hand :)
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[01:19:18] <zeeshan|2> SSI
[01:19:20] <zeeshan|2> dont worry about it
[01:19:30] <zeeshan|2> apparently my friend has one locally
[01:19:31] <zeeshan|2> =D
[01:19:36] <zeeshan|2> thank u!!
[01:20:08] <ssi> ha ok
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[01:31:14] <ssi> ok so let's see how it handles 1/2" ply :D
[01:34:01] <XXCoder> lol
[01:39:12] <XXCoder> nice
http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/free-physics-e-books-for-all-lev-landau-evgeny-lifshitz/
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[01:41:03] <XXCoder> hey
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[01:43:19] <PetefromTn_andro> Hey folks wazzup
[01:43:32] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fwB8nbI4TuM
[01:44:56] <PetefromTn_andro> I'm enjoying music from the hearts of space what is the video about?
[01:45:29] <PetefromTn_andro> Don't wanna blow my Zen LOL
[01:45:36] <XXCoder> cat and laser
[01:45:51] <PetefromTn_andro> Aah. Hilarious right
[01:45:56] <XXCoder> yeah
[01:46:42] <PetefromTn_andro> Man I cannot even tell you how nice it is to hear my spindle so quiet even at full stink RPM
[01:46:50] <XXCoder> :)
[01:47:09] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_andro: nice
[01:47:09] <zeeshan|2> :D
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[01:48:04] <PetefromTn_andro> I just shut it down a little bit ago but I ran it for like ten minutes or so at max and then stopped and restarted it a couple times to max rpm just to test. It's a things of beauty!!
[01:48:35] <jdh> do you need to do a bearing break-in?
[01:48:46] <zeeshan|2> you always break in bearings
[01:48:47] <zeeshan|2> ;p
[01:48:52] <CaptHindsight> yes
[01:49:17] <CaptHindsight> you don't have to if you don't want them to last as long as they can
[01:49:21] <PetefromTn_andro> I will probably run it now at like 5500 or so just to preserve my spindle bearings for awhile but it's nice to know max is there when I Need it
[01:49:49] <PetefromTn_andro> Yeah man I was breaking them in all afternoon basically
[01:50:13] <PetefromTn_andro> Followed the fafnir manufacturing guidelines I got online
[01:51:01] <PetefromTn_andro> Even weighed the grease to make sure I put the right amount in each bearings
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[01:51:07] <zeeshan|2> trans bearings reak in 50 km of driving
[01:51:46] <CaptHindsight> reak = strong odor?
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[01:52:03] <PetefromTn_andro> That little airgun pellet scale or actually it's a jeweler scale came in really handy
[01:52:23] <jdh> your drug scale?
[01:52:41] <Tom_itx> like a powder scale for reloading?
[01:52:43] <PetefromTn_andro> No ass my airgun pellet scale!
[01:53:00] <PetefromTn_andro> Yup
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[01:53:05] <jdh> I use my reloading scale for drugs.
[01:53:05] <PetefromTn_andro> Hehehe
[01:53:11] <jdh> err... for reloading.
[01:53:30] <zeeshan|2> whos an expert lathe runner here
[01:53:31] <zeeshan|2> cnc
[01:53:44] <PetefromTn_andro> I needed a scale to weigh my target pellets down to a tenth of a grain
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[01:53:57] <jdh> mine only does .2 gr
[01:54:11] <PetefromTn_andro> I batch the ones that are most consistent.
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[01:54:35] <zeeshan|2> i tried this indicator today
[01:54:36] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/nHiqq4k.jpg
[01:54:49] <zeeshan|2> i was measuring a gauge block on a surface plate
[01:54:50] <zeeshan|2> for the hell of it
[01:55:01] <zeeshan|2> just by holding the gauge block
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[01:55:05] <zeeshan|2> the thing moved on me
[01:55:09] <CaptHindsight> did it work?
[01:55:14] <zeeshan|2> it works
[01:55:17] <zeeshan|2> but it moves very easily
[01:55:26] <zeeshan|2> i think you gotta use insulated gloves or something
[01:55:29] <zeeshan|2> to handle metallic parts
[01:55:46] <jdh> where did you get that?
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[01:56:21] <zeeshan|2> ebay
[01:56:26] <jdh> nice
[01:56:35] <zeeshan|2> it was in a bulk of indicators
[01:56:39] <zeeshan|2> i dont know why i keep buying them
[01:56:43] <zeeshan|2> i got a problem
[01:57:07] <jdh> there are worse problems.
[01:57:07] <CaptHindsight> OCDI
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[01:57:12] <jdh> you could be stuck in .tn.us
[01:57:18] <zeeshan|2> rofl
[01:57:29] <PetefromTn_andro> Word!
[01:57:44] <CaptHindsight> obsessive compulsive dial indicatoritis
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[01:57:50] <zeeshan|2> CaptHindsight: ROFL
[01:57:59] <PetefromTn_andro> Dial indiclitoris
[01:58:13] <zeeshan|2> i have 2 sicknesses
[01:58:16] <zeeshan|2> i collect indicators
[01:58:21] <zeeshan|2> and morse taper drill bits
[01:58:30] <zeeshan|2> its retarded
[01:58:44] <Tom_itx> seek counseling
[01:58:45] <PetefromTn_andro> It certainly is
[01:58:46] <zeeshan|2> but i can always feel better because i know archivist is worse
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[01:59:02] <zeeshan|2> shuddap
[01:59:07] <zeeshan|2> all of you prolly collect something weird
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[01:59:18] <jdh> I collect dive gear.
[01:59:48] <archivist> neva!
[01:59:55] <PetefromTn_andro> I don't really collect anything
[02:00:11] <archivist> you need comparators to hold the indicators too
[02:00:38] <PetefromTn_andro> Maybe music and concert tees but I doubt you could call it any sort of collecting
[02:00:43] <zeeshan|2> archivist: haha
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[02:00:48] * archivist admits nothing about adjustable spanners
[02:00:57] <zeeshan|2> archivist has like 9201392308 levels
[02:00:58] <archivist> or lathes
[02:01:09] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_andro: that's collecting
[02:01:14] <zeeshan|2> but not to oweird :)
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[02:01:21] <archivist> a lathe followed me home yesterday
[02:01:27] <zeeshan|2> dive gear collection is pretty non weird either
[02:01:32] <zeeshan|2> some dive gear is worth a lot
[02:01:34] <PetefromTn_andro> Naah I got like three concert tees max
[02:01:34] <zeeshan|2> archivist: haha
[02:01:40] <XXCoder> archivist: wow. lol
[02:02:18] <jdh> I collect meg teeth too... but then I sell them.
[02:02:32] <PetefromTn_andro> Tomorrow I am going to try to machine that freaking encoder mounts finally
[02:02:51] <archivist> only little
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/mirror/Lorch/lorch.html
[02:03:38] * cpresser_ _only_ has concert tees
[02:03:47] <cpresser_> no other clothing :)
[02:04:10] <zeeshan|2> thats nice archivist
[02:04:27] <CaptHindsight> pants are overrated
[02:04:32] <PetefromTn_andro> I was looking at it and I am gonna have to make two plate and stack them because the motors shaft sticks up a good inches or more and then you have the encoder shaft sticks out of that.
[02:05:13] <Tom_itx> archivist, couple chunks out of the ways but you got some holders with it at least
[02:05:38] <PetefromTn_andro> I don't think I have a piece of aluminum that thick that is wide enough and I am pretty well broke after this bearings adventure
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[02:07:50] <archivist> Tom_itx, mostly reasonable, spindle feels nice, the ways on a clockmakers lathe dont effect accuracy the same way so are almost dont care
[02:08:01] <PetefromTn_andro> Anyone play the zither or know what the he'll it is?
[02:08:24] <archivist> Harry Lime
[02:09:25] <PetefromTn_andro> Someone named Georgia Kelley is playing one right now on this HOS track
[02:09:35] <archivist> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg1rcIOv2Oo
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[02:10:56] <PetefromTn_andro> Interesting
[02:13:32] <PetefromTn_andro> So I was thinking that if it gets machined from two plates stacked atop one another I could pin them together and then they have four bolts one in each corner to attach it to the spindle motor
[02:14:09] <PetefromTn_andro> Should stay put I would imagine that way
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[02:16:34] <PetefromTn_andro> Man I don't know where I would be without my smartphone
[02:17:48] <roycroft> getting more work done in the shop? :)
[02:18:21] <Tom_itx> i figure it's just another tool
[02:18:37] <Tom_itx> how you use it is up to you
[02:18:37] <XXCoder> just dont try to drive nail with it
[02:18:42] <PetefromTn_andro> Where else can you check voicemail, chat on orc, check your email and play online all while enjoying your favorite music in amazing clarity without skips or interruption
[02:19:13] <PetefromTn_andro> Irc
[02:19:15] <roycroft> actually, i like everything about smart phones except the phone part
[02:19:23] <roycroft> if they would take that out it would be a perfect device
[02:19:55] <PetefromTn_andro> Hell that is one of the best parts!!
[02:20:11] <Tom_itx> have you locked it up yet?
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[02:20:24] * roycroft generally dislikes telephony
[02:20:35] <PetefromTn_andro> My buds allow me to answer calls and change songs with just a click on the chord.
[02:20:39] <roycroft> but for them that like it i'm happy it's there
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[02:21:23] <PetefromTn_andro> Never locked it up but just got this HTC one its amazing
[02:22:04] <PetefromTn_andro> Damn thing can even change channel's on my tv and stereo when I loose the remote
[02:22:14] <CaptHindsight> I'm still trying to figure out why my calculator app needs to access my call history and phonebook :)
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[02:22:33] <roycroft> so i'm thinking about using rods and pillow blocks for the linear rails on my router
[02:22:36] <PetefromTn_andro> Yeah ain't that bullshit
[02:22:43] <roycroft> dimensions again are 3'x, 2'y, and 8" z
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[02:22:59] <roycroft> should i be looking at 20mm rods?
[02:23:08] <PetefromTn_andro> Most of the apps worth having are all like that
[02:23:08] <roycroft> or would 16mm likely suffice?
[02:23:10] <Tom_itx> you signed your privacy away when you took ownership
[02:23:41] <PetefromTn_andro> Go 20
[02:23:50] <CaptHindsight> roycroft: supported 20mm
[02:23:59] <roycroft> that's what i thought
[02:24:54] <roycroft> i'm not looking at this exactly, but products like it:
[02:24:55] <roycroft> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Set-SBR20-1500mm-20-MM-FULLY-SUPPORTED-LINEAR-RAIL-SHAFT-ROD-with-4-SBR20UU-/251022549100?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item3a721c206c
[02:25:39] <PetefromTn_andro> That's the stuff works decent
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[02:26:10] <roycroft> thanks
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[02:26:39] <roycroft> i've been looking at other ways of doing it but i'm concerned about rigidity, sag, and vibration with everything else
[02:26:41] <PetefromTn_andro> Try to hide them underneath the base of possible
[02:26:47] <CaptHindsight> roycroft: you have to be aware of suppliers that sell crunchy bearings
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[02:26:57] <roycroft> those rails seem to be the best optoin
[02:27:09] <roycroft> it's hard to tell exactly what one is going to get on ebay
[02:27:24] <roycroft> unless one is willing to pay top dollar, and even then it isn't always a sure thing
[02:27:27] <roycroft> but yeah
[02:27:46] <roycroft> hmm
[02:27:48] <CaptHindsight> lots of positive feed back from SBR buyers
[02:28:01] <roycroft> sbr are what i'm looking at
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[02:28:21] <CaptHindsight> only 1 negative on getting a crunchy bearing
[02:28:35] <roycroft> i'm going to have the gantry drive rail underneath the base already
[02:28:35] <CaptHindsight> "Not new!! Busted screw in rail, dirty, bearing not smooth. Looks like reject."
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[02:28:53] <roycroft> i was going to put the linear rails on the sides
[02:29:05] <roycroft> but i'll give putting them underneath a thought
[02:29:28] <CaptHindsight> 4 neutrals on poor quality rails
[02:30:06] <PetefromTn_andro> Our German friend here has made several like I am suggesting and apparently it works quite well
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[02:30:50] <roycroft> is he still around?
[02:30:52] <CaptHindsight> should have gotten Ich's mailing address in the woods
[02:30:57] <roycroft> you're talking about ich, i presume
[02:31:01] <roycroft> i haven't seen him in a while
[02:31:10] <Tom_itx> he's retired and left irc
[02:31:10] <CaptHindsight> he retired to become a park ranger
[02:31:14] <PetefromTn_andro> Yeah but not ich the other German LOL
[02:31:15] <roycroft> good for him!
[02:31:47] <roycroft> another german?
[02:31:52] <roycroft> is this the start of an invasion?
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[02:32:00] <PetefromTn_andro> Can't remember his name offhand for some reason
[02:32:11] <CaptHindsight> probably up in a few more hours
[02:32:14] <CaptHindsight> Loet
[02:32:23] <PetefromTn_andro> Yup that's the one
[02:32:33] <PetefromTn_andro> Loetmichel
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[02:32:51] <roycroft> i'll look for him
[02:33:12] <PetefromTn_andro> He builds them from some kinda fiberglass board of something
[02:33:12] <roycroft> those linear rails come with two pillow blocks per rail
[02:33:33] <roycroft> i was thinking about a double column gantry for greater rigidity
[02:33:40] <roycroft> that would take up a little more real estate
[02:33:49] <roycroft> or reduce the workspace
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[02:33:59] <roycroft> but it might be worthwhile
[02:34:16] <PetefromTn_andro> I understand that if you use an angled gantry it can flex the bearings riders
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[02:34:37] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwvHJ1fIQAE2VPS.jpg:large
[02:34:38] <PetefromTn_andro> Carriage
[02:34:41] <ssi> now we're making some progress
[02:34:47] <ssi> 1/2" birch plywood, 20ipm
[02:35:07] <PetefromTn_andro> Dayum
[02:35:28] <PetefromTn_andro> Looks tight man
[02:35:33] <ssi> I'm not even gonna try 3/4" just yet
[02:35:38] <ssi> waiting on a 3" lens; that'll help immensely
[02:35:43] <zeeshan|2> ssi
[02:35:44] <XXCoder> 3 inches
[02:35:44] <zeeshan|2> looks nice!
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[02:35:57] <ssi> thx :)
[02:36:09] <ssi> more power makes everything better!
[02:36:17] <PetefromTn_andro> How much was that big laser thingamajiggy?
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[02:36:37] <ssi> about $1500 for tube, power supply, and shipping
[02:36:48] <PetefromTn_andro> WOW
[02:37:31] <PetefromTn_andro> And I thought my bearings were expensive LOL
[02:37:35] <ssi> :P
[02:37:59] <ssi> I think I have probably about $5500 in the whole machine now, if you don't count the 40W tube and supply
[02:38:01] <Tom_itx> you'll have to expand your workplace too to fit the tube!
[02:38:07] <zeeshan|2> ssi
[02:38:11] <zeeshan|2> cut some metal
[02:38:12] <zeeshan|2> !
[02:38:17] <ssi> zeeshan|2: yeah, thinking about that
[02:38:20] <ssi> I have a 1.5" lens
[02:38:33] <ssi> lemme see if I have any thin mild sheet
[02:38:54] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsVR6XGnWmQ Real Genius - 6MW laser
[02:39:17] <PetefromTn_andro> Did you ever fix you vibration or resonance problems you were having?
[02:39:22] <ssi> no
[02:39:25] <ssi> it's not really that much of a problem
[02:39:30] <ssi> only shows up in very very very fine detail
[02:39:42] <PetefromTn_andro> Aah okay
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[02:40:21] <ssi> PetefromTn_andro:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvAkPmGIYAAbdEh.jpg:large
[02:40:27] <ssi> see the very very slight waviness in the lines?
[02:42:16] <CaptHindsight> or in the outline numbers?
[02:42:21] <roycroft> is the reason to put the rail underneath to help keep it clean?
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[02:43:13] <ssi> yea
[02:43:34] <PetefromTn_andro> Cool beans. Man I love that movie
[02:43:47] <zeeshan|2> arent industrial lasers
[02:43:48] <roycroft> ok, i couldn't think of a mechanical reason
[02:43:53] <zeeshan|2> 6,000WW?
[02:43:54] <zeeshan|2> W
[02:44:54] <CaptHindsight> I can't believe that movie is 29 years old already
[02:45:31] <PetefromTn_andro> Jeez man don't say that Shit you're depressing me
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[02:45:43] <zeeshan|2> im so young
[02:45:46] <zeeshan|2> that ive never seen that movie
[02:45:47] <zeeshan|2> !
[02:45:57] <PetefromTn_andro> Bite me
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[02:46:04] <CaptHindsight> it's a classic
[02:46:05] <zeeshan|2> hehe
[02:46:07] <zeeshan|2> im exactly 29
[02:46:13] <zeeshan|2> so i was just born
[02:46:33] <PetefromTn_andro> Sometimes it seems like that Lol
[02:46:52] <PetefromTn_andro> ;)
[02:48:09] <PetefromTn_andro> Can you drive a sixteen penny nail thru a 2x4 with your penis? No well sorry a girls gotta have her standards LOL
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[02:49:32] <CaptHindsight> some great lines in that film
[02:49:45] <PetefromTn_andro> I drank what?
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[02:50:45] <PetefromTn_andro> Gonna have to see if it's on Netflix or something
[02:51:02] <CaptHindsight> the whole movie is on youtube
[02:51:29] <PetefromTn_andro> Ssi man ya got me jonesin to build some kinda other cnc here man way to go...
[02:51:50] <ssi> zeeshan|2: with the 2" lens, 2ipm makes a detectable groove in 26ga mild sheet
[02:51:53] <ssi> but it doesn't cut through
[02:52:13] <zeeshan|2> if you use a biigger lense
[02:52:18] <zeeshan|2> can you cut through?
[02:52:20] <ssi> shorter
[02:52:23] <ssi> I have a 1.5" on hand
[02:52:24] <zeeshan|2> okay
[02:52:24] <ssi> about to try it
[02:52:26] <PetefromTn_andro> Oh cool... I got YouTube on the big flatscreen in the family room
[02:52:27] <zeeshan|2> ssi
[02:52:34] <zeeshan|2> so with a 1.5" lense
[02:52:43] <zeeshan|2> you should technically be able to cut 26 gauge max?
[02:53:07] <ssi> in theory I should be able to cut like 0.040"
[02:53:10] <ssi> but I'm not sure I buy it :)
[02:53:21] <zeeshan|2> nice
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[02:53:59] <ssi> the optics are a tradeoff between spot size, spot power density, and depth of field
[02:54:10] <PetefromTn_andro> Well Gonna get to sleep guys talk Manana
[02:54:17] <ssi> nite peet
[02:54:40] <PetefromTn_andro> Nite man enjoy your laserizing hehe
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[03:06:41] <ssi> haha
[03:06:44] <ssi> steel is unfazed
[03:06:49] <ssi> oh well
[03:06:57] <ssi> might need o2 assist
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[03:07:27] <XXCoder> alum?
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[03:08:27] <ssi> alum is harder to cut than mild steel
[03:08:36] <XXCoder> really?
[03:08:36] <cabbage_breath> ssi: where did you get your ohmic clip
[03:08:51] <XXCoder> oh laser
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[03:09:09] <ssi> cabbage_breath: I bought a set of duramax consumables off amazon and it had the omhic body in it
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[03:13:57] <Connor> ssi what's causing the wavy lines ?
[03:14:35] <Tom_itx> his slides
[03:14:56] <Connor> Really?
[03:15:01] <Connor> That sucks.
[03:15:47] <ssi> no, it's not the slides
[03:15:59] <Tom_itx> i forgot what you said...
[03:16:10] <ssi> it's just lack of rigidity, plus the fact that the linuxcnc tp is infinite jerk
[03:16:17] <ssi> so whenever it changes direction, the machine shakes very slightly
[03:16:47] <ssi> crossbracing the frame would likely fix most of it
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[03:16:53] <ssi> but it hasn't been much of an issue thus far
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[03:17:38] <XXCoder> I suppose making frame heavier would help too
[03:17:55] <XXCoder> for high freq. stuff use that black stuff that converts high freq vibration to heat
[03:18:15] <ssi> the legs are 20mm extrusion
[03:18:20] <ssi> they're fairly spindly for how big a machine it is
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[03:20:02] <XXCoder> http://www.myturbodiesel.com/wiki/soundproof-car-diy-to-reduce-noise/
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[03:53:23] <humble_s1a_bass> wait why do you care
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[03:53:44] <XXCoder> humble_s1a_bass: its for noises in car but for laser cnc, its for stability
[03:53:58] <humble_s1a_bass> oh. dampening
[03:54:06] <XXCoder> yeah
[03:54:23] <XXCoder> you can do lot with low freq, but high freq is hard
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[03:54:51] <humble_s1a_bass> look at Mason Industries
[03:55:09] <humble_s1a_bass> you can Vibration isolation pads for all sorts of ranges
[03:55:17] <XXCoder> interesting
[03:55:26] <XXCoder> but then its easy to make machine rigit
[03:55:31] <humble_s1a_bass> but mass will be your number 1 friend
[03:55:32] <XXCoder> it leaves high frew
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[03:55:35] <XXCoder> indeed
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[03:58:30] <XXCoder> night
[04:07:42] <zeeshan|2> http://imgur.com/a/zBWXz
[04:07:43] <zeeshan|2> damn
[04:07:46] <zeeshan|2> his printer already printed it
[04:14:33] <Connor> zeeshan|2: What is it ?
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[04:14:41] <zeeshan|2> cover for my electric motor
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[04:15:11] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/SB7HURH.jpg
[04:15:13] <zeeshan|2> to hide that nonsense
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[04:15:39] <Connor> Didn't it have a plate ?
[04:15:45] <Connor> or the wire nuts too large ?
[04:15:55] <zeeshan|2> i got this motor like 5 years ago
[04:16:04] <zeeshan|2> and it didnt come with a plate
[04:16:13] <Connor> nice mosquito
[04:16:22] <zeeshan|2> and i cant find a replacement plate for it from dayton either
[04:16:24] <zeeshan|2> haha thanks
[04:16:32] <zeeshan|2> it prolly got electricuted
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[06:54:55] <Deejay> moin
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[07:43:04] <archivist> baby cnc
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMCO-Turn-120-CNC-Lathe-with-EMCO-Tronic-TI-Control-/321511764201
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[12:14:59] <Loetmichel> roycroft: awake?
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[12:17:23] <jdh> I would buy that lathe.
[12:19:30] <Loetmichel> which?
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[12:20:12] <archivist> baby cnc
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMCO-Turn-120-CNC-Lathe-with-EMCO-Tronic-TI-Control-/321511764201
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[12:21:02] <Loetmichel> nice
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[12:47:22] <The_Eel> Hi
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[12:47:29] <The_Eel> Is there any free gcode application ?
[12:47:32] <The_Eel> for a miniature cnc milling machine ?
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[12:47:45] <jdh> you want to generate G-Code, or you want to control a miniature milling machine. or both?
[12:48:06] <The_Eel> both , perhaps
[12:48:13] <The_Eel> controlling it is done with a microcontroller
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[12:48:14] <jdh> linuxcnc will control machine and interpret g-code. There are lots of options for generating code.
[12:48:21] <The_Eel> I work with windows
[12:48:22] <jdh> I'm sorry.
[12:48:48] <The_Eel> thanks for the help :)
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[12:50:54] <jthornton> heh
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[12:51:55] <jdh> (for the windows, and for the uC controller)
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[12:53:30] <Solarlux> Hello all
[12:53:37] <Solarlux> I want to know about CamWorks
[12:58:14] <skunkworks> what is your real question?
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[13:09:13] <jdh> I see.
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[13:22:51] <jthornton> you might go to the CamWorks web site to know about it
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[13:27:46] <JT-Shop> morning Sam
[13:29:16] <jdh> if you acn afford solidworks and camworks, you can ask questions from paid professionals.
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[15:01:38] <axp> hi all
[15:02:44] <jdh> Good Morning axp.
[15:03:10] <jdh> are you a fan of obsolete 64bit DEC CPUs?
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[15:14:32] <ssi> lol
[15:14:34] <archivist> I know a few that are
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[15:14:47] <archivist> I may have one next to me
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[15:15:05] <jdh> excellent!
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[15:15:51] <archivist> are you on the classiccmp mailing list?
[15:17:29] <jdh> no, I'm a user, not a fanatic
[15:17:47] <jdh> and to me they aren't classic, they are just production machines.
[15:18:49] <rythmnbls> I have an es40 running openvms
[15:20:12] <archivist> I put debian on mine many years ago, not been switched for nearly as long
[15:22:07] <rythmnbls> it probably weighs more than my benchtop mill :)
[15:25:31] <archivist> mine is holding a stack of books/stuff in process of cataloguing, strong enough
[15:26:15] <archivist> I think it could handle the 5 axis mill on top
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[15:36:54] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwvHJ1fIQAE2VPS.jpg:large
[15:37:06] <ssi> with the 2" lens, 1/2" plywood cuts well at 20ipm
[15:37:13] <ssi> but the focus is fairly critical
[15:37:27] <ssi> I have a 3" lens coming, that should do 1/2" easily, and hopefully 3/4" won't be too much of a hassle
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[15:43:16] <SpeedEvil> watt?
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[15:44:43] <pcw_home> I said captain
[15:45:30] <CaptHindsight> there's a flashback
[15:46:28] <SpeedEvil> ssi: to elaborate - how many watts/
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[15:59:38] <ssi> SpeedEvil: well I was running it at 28mA, which is supposed to be 100W
[15:59:49] <ssi> I just got my laser power meter in the mail 45 seconds ago
[16:00:03] <ssi> so I'm going to be calibrating my power commands so I can program it directly in watts and it'll be fairly accurate
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[16:10:10] <Connor> You use a 40 or 60W laser ?
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[16:14:39] * JT-Shop just figured out that a 5/16" spring pin needs a P hole to be a slip fit
[16:16:43] <ssi> Connor: 100W nominal, 120W max
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[16:27:56] <zeeshan|2> ssi
[16:27:58] <zeeshan|2> any success with metal?
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[16:36:06] <ssi> zeeshan|2: no
[16:36:17] <zeeshan|2> did you try
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[16:36:18] <ssi> yes
[16:36:22] <zeeshan|2> =/
[16:36:34] <ssi> runnning very very slowly, I was able to get it to mark it deep enough that you can feel it with a fingernail
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[16:37:28] <Connor> ssi, I saw something about needing to use some sort of paste on the metal to help cut down on reflection...
[16:37:28] <ssi> might need o2 assist or something
[16:37:31] <ssi> hm
[16:38:10] <ssi> I haven't seen any truly compelling evidence that anyone has done this with a DC 100W co2 laser
[16:38:23] <ssi> I'm looking at something now where someone's using a 100W RF laser, but it has a much higher peak power
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[16:46:46] <zeeshan|2> a2 steel when you buy it from a metall supplier
[16:46:49] <zeeshan|2> comes in annealed state?
[16:48:31] <archivist> the specifications usually call up hardness state too, depending on metal etc
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[16:50:30] <zeeshan|2> also when you oil quench
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[16:50:39] <zeeshan|2> motor oil works?
[16:50:39] <zeeshan|2> ;p
[16:50:54] <zeeshan|2> it always says oil quench
[16:50:59] <zeeshan|2> but never specifies the type of oil!
[16:51:21] <archivist> there are oils designed for hardening/tempering
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[16:55:40] <lair82> cmorley ,you around?
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[16:57:23] <zeeshan|2> man
[16:57:27] <zeeshan|2> i wish my turn groove tool was here
[16:57:38] <zeeshan|2> i always seem to need a rh and lh tool to do parts like this:
[16:57:58] <zeeshan|2> http://i.imgur.com/8FraWdy.png
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[16:58:04] <zeeshan|2> am i doing something wrong?
[16:58:05] <zeeshan|2> ;p
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[16:59:30] <archivist> that depends :)
[17:01:06] <archivist> is that arse about face ?
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[17:01:45] <archivist> is it a two or one setup part
[17:02:04] <zeeshan|2> i'd really like it to be a one setup part
[17:02:22] <zeeshan|2> so it can be attacked from one side
[17:02:23] <zeeshan|2> and parted off
[17:02:24] <zeeshan|2> and done
[17:02:29] <zeeshan|2> i gotta make like 10
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[17:02:35] <zeeshan|2> of this type
[17:02:38] <zeeshan|2> and 10 of a conical type
[17:02:41] <archivist> 180 deg
[17:02:54] <zeeshan|2> ??
[17:03:02] <archivist> you cannot part off that round form
[17:04:15] <zeeshan|2> huh
[17:04:20] <archivist> design for the final cut, any posh cuts need to be done while the shank is solid
[17:05:16] <zeeshan|2> it looks like
[17:05:19] <zeeshan|2> i need a grooving tool
[17:05:22] <zeeshan|2> to be able to get both sides of that step
[17:05:42] <zeeshan|2> i cant use neither a vnmg or ccmt insert
[17:05:54] <zeeshan|2> cause of the fact that i have a shoulder on both sides of that step
[17:06:04] <archivist> part off, move bar out, rough it , do curve and parallel to right, then thin down left, then part off
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[17:07:14] <zeeshan|2> yes thats how im doing it in cam right now
[17:07:19] <zeeshan|2> but it means i gotta use 2 tools
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[17:07:25] <zeeshan|2> rh and lh vnmg or ccmt
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[17:08:21] <archivist> I would use a neutral groove tool as there is a left and right and it can do the curve
[17:08:39] <archivist> and part of
[17:09:40] <zeeshan|2> http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TAHJV7UFsoE/hqdefault.jpg
[17:09:44] <zeeshan|2> i really want this!!
[17:10:27] <PetefromTn_> How do you find your lathe now that it is CNC is it working well?
[17:10:38] <zeeshan|2> love it
[17:10:43] <zeeshan|2> need cnc mill
[17:10:44] <zeeshan|2> :(
[17:10:52] <PetefromTn_> Yeah I need CNC lathe
[17:11:13] <zeeshan|2> i always think i need a mill
[17:11:16] <archivist> I have this tool
http://www.greenwood-tools.co.uk/shopscr23.html
[17:11:20] <zeeshan|2> but for some reason, i keep on making parts on the lathe
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[17:11:42] <zeeshan|2> archivist: you can turn with that tool?
[17:11:51] <zeeshan|2> er rough
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[17:12:18] <archivist> roughing would be abuse, just turn carefully
[17:12:33] <zeeshan|2> im machining these outta a2
[17:12:44] <zeeshan|2> so cutting forces will be high
[17:12:46] <zeeshan|2> i think.
[17:13:15] <PetefromTn_> I turn O2 on the lathe all the time cuts pretty easy really.
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[17:13:33] <zeeshan|2> good
[17:13:36] <zeeshan|2> thats what i want to hear!
[17:13:48] <zeeshan|2> so its easier than stainless?
[17:13:50] <zeeshan|2> or chromoly?
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[17:14:07] <PetefromTn_> Trying to talk myself out of CNCing that lathe because I really want a commercial machine
[17:14:15] <PetefromTn_> But I gotta be practical too.
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[17:14:31] <PetefromTn_> yeah it is much easier than stainless it does not really work harden that easily.
[17:14:57] <zeeshan|2> so these dies
[17:15:07] <zeeshan|2> should i machine them 0.001" oversize?
[17:15:08] <zeeshan|2> then heat treat
[17:15:13] <zeeshan|2> and then sand then down to side?
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[17:15:36] <zeeshan|2> i guess i can do it to nominal
[17:15:41] <zeeshan|2> and then sand it and make it undersize
[17:15:46] <archivist> sandvik has various grades of the insert N151.2-250-5E4125
[17:15:47] <zeeshan|2> it'll just be a little more of a clearance fit
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[17:16:32] <archivist> you expect the same size after heat treating :)
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[17:19:16] <lair82> Hey guys, is any body using the fanuc style tool offset patch, with the latest version of master?
[17:21:32] <PetefromTn_> zeeshan|2yes Here is a website that describes expected changes in tool steels after hardening. For the most part there is really no way to predict. If I were you I would make one and send it off to heat treat and then determine what you need from the finished product.
http://www.productionmachining.com/articles/predicting-size-change-from-heat-treatment
[17:22:12] <PetefromTn_> Unless the fitment is very tight tolerance you probably can just make it to size or slightly oversize and then you can grind to finished size as you suggested.
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[18:28:31] <zeeshan|2> PetefromTn_: at one place wher i used to work
[18:28:37] <zeeshan|2> we used to heat treat and send it to grinders
[18:28:50] <zeeshan|2> so i always thought you need to do finishing after heat treatment
[18:29:08] <zeeshan|2> and these parts are home brew, so i am not sending htem for heat treatment.. too much $$
[18:29:09] <zeeshan|2> :p
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[18:30:20] <PetefromTn_> Well I home brew heat treat here I don't have a furnace YET
[18:30:30] <zeeshan|2> theyre small part
[18:30:32] <zeeshan|2> so im gonna oxy torch em
[18:30:35] <zeeshan|2> and use temp sticks
[18:30:41] <PetefromTn_> The piston latch rod in my RWS54 needed hardened
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[18:31:03] <PetefromTn_> I just torched it and quenched it. So far it seems to work quite well.
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[18:31:49] <PetefromTn_> There is a HUGE spring in the rifle and the trigger has metal jaws so if it was not hard there would be marks in the latching end. So far no marks LOL
[18:33:54] <zeeshan|2> nice
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[18:40:05] <archivist> quench endways so they dont bend
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[19:19:12] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR4LqeDNjMI CNC plasma cutter for large pipe
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[20:47:48] <JT-Shop> whew that whoredeal is done! now to descramble the shop
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[20:57:38] <JT-Shop> http://www.gnipsel.com/images/JD350/6-Way%2008.jpg
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[20:58:24] <cradek> what the absolute is that?
[20:58:37] <cradek> oh is it a valve?
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[21:16:16] <JT-Shop> 6-way valve on my crawler dozer
[21:18:53] <JT-Shop> it's a 1965 John Deere 350 crawler dozer
[21:19:12] <JT-Shop> http://www.gnipsel.com/images/JD350/350b01.jpg
[21:19:45] <rythmnbls> its the tracks off that you've been annealing ?
[21:21:27] <JT-Shop> the control valve linkage where I've welded up the worn out holes
[21:22:12] <rythmnbls> nice, could use one of those around here in winter
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[21:24:41] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:26:59] <JT-Shop> this one cranks at 20F without ether
[21:28:12] <rythmnbls> glow plugs ?
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[21:39:48] <JT-Shop> no
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[21:40:10] <JT-Shop> my hoe won't start when it's cold out unless you build a fire under the crankcase
[21:42:47] <jdh> bitch slap that hoe
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[22:12:20] <Nick001-shop> A heated dipstick will help especially if your using 30w oil.Just need to thini out the molasses
[22:12:38] <Nick001-shop> thin
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[22:25:17] <Loetmichel> Nick001-shop: a friend onece changed the differential gearbox oil of a Unimog 404S
[22:25:26] <Loetmichel> ... after about 30 years of use
[22:25:56] <Loetmichel> ... he could GRAB the ever so slowly oozing out end of the "oil" and pull it out ;-)
[22:26:08] <Loetmichel> like the contents of a spit vase ;-)
[22:35:12] <Nick001-shop> Leomichel - you in Germany?
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