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[00:48:40] <PetefromTn_> Evening guys
[00:48:50] <Tom_itx> cnc humming again?
[00:49:13] <PetefromTn_> Not yet exactly..
[00:49:29] <PetefromTn_> Just got back from Billy's house retreiving the Kluber grease LOL
[00:49:40] <PetefromTn_> Got to see his 0704 masterpiece
[00:49:46] <PetefromTn_> BRB
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[01:08:26] <PetefromTn_> Sorry man Yeah I got home and it was time for dinner so I am going to have to wait until tomorrow to install the bearings.
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[01:09:40] <jdh> how do you get the grease in there?
[01:10:20] <PetefromTn_> Well I plan to use a small syringe that Connor had and inject the correct amount after weighing it on my pellet scale I recently bought
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[01:11:37] <PetefromTn_> Then I will squirt it as evenly as possible between the bearing balls on the outer race. Apparently that is how the fafnir .PDF on the bearings recommends. They also recommend prelubing the breaings before installation
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[01:14:21] <PetefromTn_> Unfortunately the assembled motor and mounting plate that gets reinstalled on the machine is at the outer edge of what I can lift by myself.
[01:14:48] <PetefromTn_> When I removed it my wife was able to help steady me while I lowered it down onto my shoulder from atop the enclosure.
[01:15:12] <PetefromTn_> So I will most likely need her help or someones help to get it back up which I think will be harder actually.
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[01:33:37] <LatheBuilder> Hello everyone. Encoders hooked up and reading in axis. I seem to be missing something simple regarding drive enable.
[01:34:46] <LatheBuilder> Is drive enable a separate thing done manually at start, or is it meant to be done in ladder logic at program start?
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[01:38:07] <LatheBuilder> I understand the hardware hookups for drive enable and estop chain enable. This is a retrofit to a vertical mill. Thankfully the old control had wiring pretty close to published schematics in spite of it being a frankenmill from the beginning
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[01:40:48] <jdh> do you have separate enable lines for each amp?
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[01:42:49] <jdh> and do you have said lines wired. nd HAL entries for each output?
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[01:56:44] <LatheBuilder> each amp has sep lines, not hooked up. working through pncconf just to understand framework first. Have not edited HAL files yet, though looks like that's next if if needs to be manually placed
[01:57:40] <LatheBuilder> on the control before this one, it was a software enable after control boot that enabled drives/master control contactor
[01:57:58] <Tom_itx> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kuka-KR200-Robot-W-KRC1-Controller-Pendent-Complete-ABB-Fanuc-Motoman-Nachi-/121265466480?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c3bfc2c70
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[02:03:38] <anarchos2> hmm
[02:03:50] <jdh> I think there are default pins for xenable/yenable/etc. that need to be routed.
[02:04:03] <anarchos2> i want three
[02:04:38] <anarchos2> now, using yscrew.comp, the wiki says that you can't use with backlash compensation?
[02:05:55] <jdh> it replaces backlash compensation doesn't it?
[02:08:02] <anarchos2> how do you account for backlash, then? i suppose if you always start at 0.0 then you must move into positive space before going into negative space
[02:08:22] <anarchos2> so take an additional 0.01 out of the negative compensation?
[02:08:33] <anarchos2> hmm
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[02:28:29] <LatheBuilder> thanks jdh, I'll lead up
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[02:40:18] <jdh> how are you mapping your screw?
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[02:48:08] <anarchos2> dial indicator, 1" at a time
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[02:49:23] <anarchos2> well, 0.01" x 10 at a time, then move and reset
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[02:54:00] <LatheBuilder> read up, rather
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[02:56:49] <Connor> That'll take a while.
[02:59:29] <CaptHindsight> anyone going to IMTS next week?
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[03:06:35] <PetefromTn_> Damn we are getting a nice lightning storm here right now...
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[03:07:08] <Tom_itx> get your flux capacitor out and store it
[03:07:22] <PetefromTn_> damn wouldn't that be cool..
[03:07:49] <Tom_itx> wonder why nobody has come up with a method to store lightening
[03:08:04] <PetefromTn_> they are working on it I understand on a limited basis..
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[03:09:22] <CaptHindsight> they store it in clouds, the trick is getting the clouds where you need them at the right time :)
[03:09:25] <PetefromTn_> I watched a doccumentary about a couple people who were working on ways to attract lightning for the same purpose. They basically fired rockets into the air that had special wire leads on them to ground it.
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[03:10:07] <Tom_itx> franklin tried it
[03:10:08] <PetefromTn_> Sure would be nice if they could do it.
[03:10:14] <PetefromTn_> LOL sure did.
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[03:52:05] <LatheBuilder> hindsight, ya I'll be there thursday and friday
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[03:52:39] <LatheBuilder> you? CaptHindsight
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[03:58:19] <CaptHindsight> LatheBuilder: not sure which days, it's the same week as another show across town
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[03:59:47] <LatheBuilder> what are you going to see? my first one
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[04:00:21] <LatheBuilder> (IMTS, not first time to McCormick)
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[04:02:27] <CaptHindsight> I look for new things
[04:07:25] <LatheBuilder> I hear it's huge. Looking forward to seeing it
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[04:07:48] <CaptHindsight> yes, it uses the whole place, the only show that does
[04:08:20] <CaptHindsight> it takes a day to just walk ever aisle
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[04:08:28] <CaptHindsight> ever/every
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[04:36:15] <Jymmm> I LIKE IT! How to install a vent in a gas can...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lcnwdIYEfI
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[06:09:43] <JesusAlos> hi
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[06:49:34] <Deejay> moin
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[07:24:42] <JesusAlos> I have a doubt about tool table
[07:26:40] <JesusAlos> http://postimg.org/image/7vt8upu5b/
[07:26:56] <JesusAlos> the machine don't take the offset value
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[10:47:54] <JesusAlos> hello
[10:48:26] <JesusAlos> I don't know why my machine don't take the tool table offsets
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[10:48:33] <JesusAlos> I try G43
[10:48:42] <JesusAlos> and follow the instructions manual
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[10:49:02] <JesusAlos> but seems like don't do something ok
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[10:50:16] <archivist_herron> the table you showed earlier first entry had an offset, is that what you want?
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[13:49:51] <jdh> isnt' tool1 typically your zero ref? I suppose that is just convention and not a requirement though?
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[13:59:49] <jthornton> that is what I use on my CHNC lathe
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[15:22:45] <PetefromTn_> Morning guys
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[15:25:29] <jthornton> morning Pete
[15:25:31] <jdh> 'sup PeteFromNYbutwantstobeinFLbutnowinTN
[15:25:48] <PetefromTn_> LOL yeah that prettymuchsumsitup...
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[15:29:04] <jthornton> got spindle?
[15:29:28] <PetefromTn_> Working on these spindle motor bearings today... Having some difficulty getting off the top bearing right now. Don't want to screw it up and it won't fit in the press unfortunately.
[15:29:59] <jthornton> yea, you want to be super careful with those babies
[15:30:14] <PetefromTn_> sure
[15:30:57] <jdh> that's why they make 5lb hammers
[15:32:08] <PetefromTn_> I have one a those LOL
[15:32:53] <CaptHindsight> PetefromTn_: did they make it difficult to remove the bearing?
[15:33:03] <PetefromTn_> no not really..
[15:33:09] <PetefromTn_> its just kinda tight
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[15:34:59] <PetefromTn_> Gonna pull out my big pulley puller here in a minute.
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[15:35:20] <jdh> we have some round induction heaters for bearing removal
[15:36:53] <PetefromTn_> Cool when can you send it to me LOL
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[15:51:20] <jdh> it will never leave the site, it's on the hot side of the shop.
[15:52:58] <skunkworks> the 'glow in the dark' side?
[15:52:58] <PetefromTn_> Thanks man I am quite sure I can get on without it I was of course kidding ......thus the little LOL at the end there ;)
[15:56:06] <jdh> skunkworks: in theory. but if you see the glow, it's too late.
[15:56:24] <jthornton> I don't care for the "new" PayPal interface
[15:57:08] <PetefromTn_> what new interface? I use paypal all the time. IMHO it is a great resource. Wish their fees were less tho...
[15:57:54] <jthornton> the business one
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[15:58:05] <jthornton> looks like it is geared to a tablet
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[15:58:50] <zeeshan> speaking about bearings
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[15:59:01] <zeeshan> i was trying to pull dowel pins out of my engine
[15:59:04] <zeeshan> holy shit they were seized
[15:59:13] <zeeshan> tried hammering them with 5lb sledge, 15lb dumbell
[15:59:16] <zeeshan> would not budge
[15:59:28] <zeeshan> drilled a hole to relieve some pressure, and repeat hammering no go
[15:59:34] <zeeshan> tried a socket and bolt and c-clamp, no go
[15:59:37] <zeeshan> this is how they came out:
[15:59:50] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/iR54q7z.jpg
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[16:00:06] <zeeshan> i had to drill a hole and leave like 20-30 thou of material
[16:00:11] <zeeshan> and chiseled it out
[16:00:11] <zeeshan> =/
[16:00:22] <zeeshan> oh i tried tapping them and using a slide hammer too
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[16:00:37] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/fppEfWu.jpg
[16:00:39] <zeeshan> theyre finally out!! :D
[16:01:20] <zeeshan> damn cars
[16:02:14] <WalterN> cutting steel woo
[16:02:19] <JT-Shop> weld a nut to the end and the thermal shock will loosen them usually
[16:03:03] <jdh> now you tell him.
[16:03:03] <zeeshan> jt-shop
[16:03:05] <zeeshan> forgot to mention
[16:03:10] <zeeshan> i used oxy torch
[16:03:15] <zeeshan> to heat up the area around the dowel too
[16:03:45] <zeeshan> first time dealing with dowels this stubborn
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[16:04:17] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/bwlV4mw.png
[16:04:18] <JT-Shop> problem with that is you heat the dowel as well
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[16:04:24] <zeeshan> redesigning the turbo placement currently
[16:04:25] <WalterN> zeeshan: apply moar hammer!
[16:04:40] <zeeshan> JT-Shop: yes it expands the dowel and does more press fitting
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[16:05:13] <JT-Shop> hmmm a nice warm bowl of gruel
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[16:11:47] <jdh> drill the center, put in liquid He
[16:11:48] * archivist points zeeshan to the dremel and diamond burrs, no heat damage
[16:11:59] <zeeshan> jdh
[16:12:03] <zeeshan> thats actually a good idea
[16:12:14] <zeeshan> i wonder if you can get a small container of liquid he
[16:12:24] <jdh> n2 is cheaper
[16:12:38] <SpeedEvil> carbide burrs work too
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[16:13:02] <archivist> depends how hard the pin/bolt is
[16:13:11] <zeeshan> dowels are usually case hardened
[16:13:18] <zeeshan> so theyre stupid hard at the skin
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[16:13:21] <zeeshan> but very easy to drill after that
[16:13:27] <zeeshan> at least this one was
[16:13:35] <jthornton> http://thecuriousphysicist.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/how-do-you-make-liquid-helium/
[16:13:42] <zeeshan> i used an angle grinder to eat through the surface
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[16:15:20] <jdh> we have big dewars of liquid He (and N2)
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[16:15:52] <zeeshan> i think one of those 16 oz bottles would be nice
[16:15:54] <zeeshan> in n2
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[16:16:18] <zeeshan> id heat the outside
[16:16:22] <zeeshan> and then quench the dowel
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[16:36:57] <archivist> hmm I get to see this tomorrow should I covet it too
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191299172039
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[16:38:56] <jdh> nah
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[16:39:47] <archivist> that size is right for manual clock work
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[16:53:30] <PetefromTn_> Well I just got the damn stubborn top bearing off wound up basically having to cut the damn thing off. Now I went to remove the larger bottom bearing only to find that my set of snap ring pliers is not large enough and the damn snap ring is pretty large and stout.
[16:53:49] <PetefromTn_> Trying to use other tools now to get the damn thing off so I can remove the bottom bearing.
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[16:58:16] <Jymmm> two tapered nails in a 1/4" ID tube
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[16:58:41] <zeeshan> after workng on transmissions
[16:58:45] <zeeshan> i have like 2190381320983 snap ring pliers
[16:58:51] <zeeshan> bastards use different ones
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[16:59:45] <PetefromTn_> Oh and another note of interest... Angular contact bearings with phelonic ball cages do NOT like being pressed on the wrong way LOL... I am sure I will be able to find the little balls at some point in the next decade.
[17:00:19] <archivist> this snap ring needs a very strong tool
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2012/2012_06_16_vertical_head/IMG_1254.JPG
[17:00:29] <zeeshan> PetefromTn_: are they snap rings like this:
[17:00:35] <zeeshan> http://www.predatorrc.com.au/images/2asnap.jpg
[17:00:35] <archivist> not been able to get it out yet
[17:00:35] <zeeshan> or
[17:00:50] <zeeshan> http://www.turnbolt.co.za/assets/images/Retaining-Ring-for-Shaft.jpg
[17:00:57] <zeeshan> or the ones lon the bottom
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[17:01:13] <PetefromTn_> top left...
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[17:01:31] <zeeshan> theres a trick to removing snap rings that are stuck
[17:01:39] <zeeshan> you hammer the shaft the other way to relieve pressure
[17:02:04] <PetefromTn_> Oh its not stuck it is just a large snap ring that takes the right tool which I unfortunately do not possess.
[17:02:11] <jdh> yet
[17:02:14] <zeeshan> grab one
[17:02:15] <zeeshan> theyre cheap
[17:02:23] <archivist> I can move it in the groove, not stuck, just effin springy
[17:02:41] <PetefromTn_> I may have to drive into town and buy one unfortunately I am kinda tapped out right now..
[17:02:43] <Jymmm> Cheap needle nose and grind the tips down
[17:03:09] <zeeshan> archivist:
[17:03:11] <PetefromTn_> I actually tried the needle nose several of them and I cannot get them to hold onto the ring too well.
[17:03:15] <zeeshan> these for me didnt work:
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/1303929354/free-shipping-good-qualityFour-in-one-multifunction-circlip-font-b-pliers-b-font--font-b.jpg
[17:03:25] <jdh> those nver work
[17:03:26] <archivist> mine is 5-6" diameter
[17:03:34] <Jymmm> ah
[17:03:35] <PetefromTn_> that is exactly the kind I have here..
[17:03:46] <zeeshan> those work for small snap rings
[17:03:56] <zeeshan> as soon as its like a 1" + snap ring
[17:03:57] <jdh> need solid ones for big rings
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[17:03:58] <zeeshan> its a pain in the ass
[17:04:00] <archivist> far too small and weedy I have them too
[17:04:04] <Jymmm> I have some snap-on ones with assorted replaceable tips
[17:04:06] <PetefromTn_> they have usually worked for most rings I have had to remove but this ring is quite large and stout.
[17:04:22] <zeeshan> http://imperial-tools.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/92_1.jpg
[17:04:25] <zeeshan> my big ones are like that
[17:04:29] <zeeshan> they have 15" handles
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[17:04:42] <PetefromTn_> I need to pickup one like that.
[17:04:50] <zeeshan> those nose is changeable
[17:04:59] <zeeshan> comes with like different diameter noses
[17:05:04] <zeeshan> and 90 deg, 45 deg in each diameter
[17:05:15] <PetefromTn_> It funny I two large toolboxes full of tools and it always seems like I am missing something after all these years of buying tools.
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[17:05:25] <zeeshan> you can never have enough tools!!!
[17:05:36] <archivist> impossible to get a full set of tools
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[17:05:41] <zeeshan> since youre in a bind
[17:05:54] <zeeshan> i'd just grind down a long needle nose pliers
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[17:05:55] <PetefromTn_> actually I am quite regular..
[17:06:10] <zeeshan> then put your damn cnc back together
[17:06:15] <zeeshan> and cnc a set of pliers
[17:06:15] <PetefromTn_> Been low carbin it for awhile now..
[17:06:25] <zeeshan> =D
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[17:06:36] <PetefromTn_> wish I could but as I said the bearings went aflight from the old bearing set.
[17:06:40] <jdh> that's teh problem. no strenght for the 'stout' 0.5" ring
[17:07:09] <zeeshan> the worst is when you break the holes
[17:07:12] <PetefromTn_> My router spindle mount is PROBABLY not gonna cut it for machining steel snap ring pliers I think..
[17:07:13] <zeeshan> in a snap ring
[17:07:52] <PetefromTn_> I'll figure out something.. I had to take a break before I got angry and threw the entire armature across the shop....
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[17:07:56] <jdh> ever tried using two sharp objects and one slips and gouges your other finger
[17:08:05] <zeeshan> jdh lol
[17:08:11] <zeeshan> aka stabbing yourself?
[17:08:16] <jdh> don't try that.
[17:08:18] <PetefromTn_> Daily
[17:08:26] * archivist had minor damage from a job this morning
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[17:08:40] <zeeshan> self ownage
[17:08:55] <zeeshan> i used to push ratchets away from me
[17:09:05] <zeeshan> and one the ratched slipped
[17:09:10] <archivist> I was so busy I never noticed till I saw the blood later :)
[17:09:12] <zeeshan> and i gouged myself so deep i can could see my bone
[17:09:21] <zeeshan> from that day on, i only pull on ratched
[17:09:33] <zeeshan> so if my hand slips, it hits my body
[17:09:44] <zeeshan> not some bloody sharp ass metal
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[17:10:11] <jdh> if I did that and hit my rock hard abs, I'd break my wrist
[17:10:17] <zeeshan> hahhaha
[17:10:19] <PetefromTn_> BAH!
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[17:10:42] <PetefromTn_> I learned that the hard way and switched to pneumatic tools wherever and whenever possible..
[17:11:09] <zeeshan> you cant torque down flywheel bolts with pneumatic tools :P
[17:11:15] <zeeshan> thats what i was doing when it slipped
[17:11:17] <zeeshan> owned!!
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[17:39:19] <roycroft> so for this cnc router i'm building, what about v groove rails and delron wheels?
[17:39:29] <roycroft> i was going to do a skate bearing type of thing
[17:40:02] <roycroft> the v groove rail and wheel parts look easier to align, but i'm not sure how accurate nor durable they are
[17:40:14] <archivist> what are you going to cut as your accuracy and rigidity come from those wheels
[17:40:37] <roycroft> wood, plastic, and non-ferrous metals
[17:40:42] <roycroft> including brass upon occasion
[17:40:49] <roycroft> mostly engraving of the metals
[17:40:57] <roycroft> certainly no serious milling
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[17:40:59] <archivist> brass with plastic wheels!
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[17:41:38] <roycroft> metal v groove wheels are available
[17:41:52] <roycroft> most of the v groove rails i see are aluminium, though
[17:41:57] <roycroft> and mostly not hardened
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[17:42:24] <roycroft> i'm reluctant to consider metal wheels on that kind of rail material
[17:42:26] <archivist> for wood and plastic machines that would be ok
[17:42:52] <roycroft> i could go with 20mm metal rods, but those are pretty expensive
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[17:43:01] <roycroft> and i like the compactness of the v groove rail systems
[17:43:12] <roycroft> real estate is expensive in my shop at this point
[17:43:21] <roycroft> because i have too much stuff
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[17:43:41] <archivist> impossible to have too much stuff :)
[17:44:01] <jdh> I nave not enough stuff and not enough space for it.
[17:44:07] <archivist> it is the lack of space that gets the real blame
[17:44:10] <roycroft> when there is no room to enter the shop any more there's too much stuff :)
[17:44:24] <roycroft> i'm not at that point yet
[17:45:47] <archivist> I am, this was getting a just made frame out of the garage
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2013/2013_04_15_glass_trolley/IMG_1526.JPG
[17:47:08] <CaptHindsight> there is still room to squeeze through, plus look at all the room on top
[17:47:31] <roycroft> you need to build an extension!
[17:48:14] <jdh> uhm... you ahve too much shit.
[17:48:22] <archivist> noooo
[17:48:36] <jdh> time to cull
[17:49:00] <archivist> neva
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[17:49:23] <CaptHindsight> 3 weeks after you get rid of something you'll need it after storing for years
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[17:49:43] <jdh> two completely covered up lathes?
[17:50:10] <archivist> the one on the left is the sliding head, southbend on the right
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[17:50:54] <archivist> southbend can by used at a "uncovering moments" notice
[17:50:58] <archivist> be
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[17:51:43] <jdh> a really long 'moments' notice
[17:51:56] <jdh> after finding a few boxes to move all that stuff to
[17:52:01] <archivist> nope about 5 minutes max
[17:52:17] <jdh> it's ok, not all delusions are bad.
[17:52:19] <archivist> much less on it at the moment
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[19:09:54] <lair82> Hello Guys,
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[19:13:02] <lair82> As if things couldn't get any more crazy on my end, I have finally gotten past the remap problems from yesterday, and now I stumbling across a new, very, very strange problem. At random, with no real repeating pattern, when I press machine on/off, mdi, or even the box in the top right corner to close out, the main pc re-boots. Any thoughts?
[19:13:39] <lair82> Power surge/short to the motherboard?
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[20:33:54] <jthornton> sounds like a hardware problem... did you check the HD status and memory?
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[20:45:56] <PetefromTn_> Well I broke down and headed into town to buy a pair of larger snap ring pliers. I got a neat set that auto switches between inside and outside that has a good wide jaw opening. It has switchable inserts that lock in with a cam and one nice thing I noticed is the pins on the inserts were tapered instead of straight to make it easier to hold onto the rings. Pretty cool
[20:46:59] <PetefromTn_> Just managed to get the snap ring off and damn even with this new pliers it was still a stout ring and not at all easy to remove. Good news is the ring is off as are the old bearings. Now I can clean up the whole armature and prelube and install the new bearings finally.
[20:47:11] <PetefromTn_> Hopefully I can get this thing reinstalled later tonight.
[20:47:32] <PetefromTn_> Wish me luck guys!! I would prefer to NOT booger up these new expensive bearings.
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[21:43:30] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:01:39] <anarchos2> is linuxcnc multithreaded?
[22:02:12] <anarchos2> if i was going to buy a low end AMD cpu, would i want a higher clocked dual core or a lower clocked quad core?
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[22:27:32] <JT-Shop> actually many get better performance isolating to 1 core
[22:28:15] <JT-Shop> what you want is low latency not huge graphics capable power eating monster CPU's
[22:28:29] <JT-Shop> PetefromTn_, hows it going?
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[22:29:29] <PetefromTn_> Well I got both old bearings off and cleaned everything up getting ready to eat some dinner now but I want to get the new bearings lubricated and installed here after dinner and try to get the motor back assembled.
[22:32:17] <ssi> https://s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.hipchat.com/7809/18061/gSok6FemKUTzx7M/upload.png
[22:32:21] <ssi> 100W tube is here :)
[22:32:23] <ssi> working on a mount for it now
[22:32:28] <ssi> bastard is huge
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[22:35:22] <anarchos2> JT-Shop, yeah, i was thinking of going with one of those new AM1 CPU/GPUs
[22:35:31] <anarchos2> can't go wrong for $35, right? :P
[22:36:59] <anarchos2> 25W, should be fairly cool inside my control cabinet
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[22:39:01] <anarchos2> I'm going to put a 6i25 on it...just not sure if i want to go low power, dual/quad core 1.4ghz, or high power (75W) 3.something ghz cpu :P
[22:41:51] <WalterN> anarchos2: you know you want to play games on your CNC controller
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[22:43:15] <anarchos2> lol :P
[22:47:14] <JT-Shop> holy carp ssi it is huge
[22:48:12] <JT-Shop> could be a flux capacitor or an Illudium Q-36
[22:55:53] <MrHindsight> anarchos2: we have been using all of the different AMD APU's
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[22:57:11] <MrHindsight> anarchos2: you can use one of the E350 mini-itx boards for ~$70 or one of the newer 2 or 4 core APU's
[23:00:32] <anarchos2> i was thinking the new AM1 microatx boards
[23:00:34] <anarchos2> and cpu
[23:00:43] <anarchos2> $35 each, seems pretty good
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[23:04:08] * JT-Shop wanders inside to toss some brats on the barbie
[23:06:26] <PCW> The must have been pretty bad to deserve that treatmant
[23:06:30] <MrHindsight> anarchos2: we have had problems with the Biostar boards with EFI not recognizing Linux or only some installs
[23:06:45] <MrHindsight> or/on
[23:07:26] <MrHindsight> no problems so far with Asrock or Asus
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[23:11:27] <anarchos2> good to know
[23:11:44] <anarchos2> i was going to go with biostar
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[23:13:11] <anarchos2> are you using ssd?
[23:13:19] <anarchos2> i was thinking of maybe trying to go with a SD card
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[23:19:06] <Tom_itx> ssi, your neighbors better look out for you
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[23:22:15] <MrHindsight> anarchos2: been using desktop and laptop HD's, no SSD's
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[23:24:41] <anarchos2> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/CF-Compact-Flash-Type-I-II-to-Serial-SATA-Adapter-9693-Free-shipping/286554067.html
[23:24:59] <anarchos2> i'm thinking that might be worth a shot. for $4 you can't really complain if it's junk :P
[23:25:34] <t12> building out a machine with a pile of these meridian drives
[23:25:36] <t12> they're interesting
[23:25:46] <anarchos2> but at the same time, CF is not the best for a OS, with memory having a limited amount of writes
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[23:25:55] <anarchos2> maybe i need a legit, really small ssd
[23:26:51] <t12> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/rx1974n430kakyd/AAAYmDdQe4MyIkfx76MiorXEa
[23:26:56] <LeelooMinai> anarchos2: Below 128GB they tend to have diminishing returns very fast - you just may end up buying something close to 128GB anyways.
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[23:29:18] <zeeshan> anyone go ta 3d printer in here
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[23:29:22] <anarchos2> there's Sandisk 64gb SSDs for $50
[23:29:28] <anarchos2> that's not outrageous
[23:29:41] <zeeshan> anarchos2:
[23:29:52] <zeeshan> i highly recommend find reviews on the read/writ speeds
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[23:30:08] <zeeshan> a lot of cheapo ssds dont even come to close to writing as fast as their competitors
[23:30:14] <zeeshan> like whats the point of a 100MB/s ssd
[23:30:23] <zeeshan> when a regular drive can write at 80MB/s
[23:30:30] <LeelooMinai> anarchos2: Also note that <128GB disks will suffer performance penalties as they do not use as many memory chips in parallel.
[23:30:31] <zeeshan> most good ones write at 300MB/s
[23:30:34] <t12> scatter performance
[23:30:44] <t12> linear read/write performance is rarely the limit
[23:30:50] <anarchos2> i'm more about reliability, i think
[23:31:14] <anarchos2> i'm not going to be attempting to write HD video onto the thing, 300mbps might be a little more than i need :P
[23:31:33] <LeelooMinai> $50 sounds good, but for $14 more you can have twice the size:)
[23:31:45] <anarchos2> $14 for what?
[23:32:02] <LeelooMinai> I mean for $64 you can have 128GB SSD
[23:32:16] <anarchos2> url?
[23:32:16] <zeeshan> LeelooMinai: link?
[23:32:24] <anarchos2> also, i'm canadian, so probably $80 :P
[23:32:32] <LeelooMinai> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171646&leaderboard=1
[23:32:37] <LeelooMinai> Just first random search
[23:32:47] <LeelooMinai> Maybe they are even better deals - I don't know
[23:32:54] <LeelooMinai> there*
[23:33:09] <zeeshan> nice!
[23:33:14] <zeeshan> ive been looking for a cheapo one
[23:33:28] <anarchos2> yea i was looking at the 64gb version of that
[23:33:30] <LeelooMinai> I put 128GB to my "cnc pc" too
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[23:33:54] <LeelooMinai> Because smaller sizes very only a bit cheaper
[23:33:56] <zeeshan> http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/330/SanDisk-SDSSDP128G
[23:34:00] <zeeshan> doesnt look like its got write performance
[23:34:15] <zeeshan> 9.07MB/s
[23:34:15] <zeeshan> lol
[23:34:44] <LeelooMinai> I think you are misreading something
[23:34:47] <zeeshan> http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/OCZ-Vertex-450-256GB/Rating/1605
[23:34:52] <zeeshan> thats what i have
[23:36:28] <zeeshan> iu dont know why ocz stopped making drives
[23:36:29] <zeeshan> :(
[23:37:24] <zeeshan> oh
[23:37:27] <zeeshan> its only that one thats out of stock
[23:37:54] <anarchos2> http://www.amazon.ca/Kingston-Digital-2-5-Inch-SV300S37A-120G/dp/B00A1ZTZOG/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1409787133&sr=8-3&keywords=ssd
[23:38:06] <anarchos2> that got 3rd best value in those ratings from the URL above
[23:38:09] <zeeshan> http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820228105&cm_re=ocz-_-20-228-105-_-Product
[23:41:01] <LeelooMinai> I have samsungo 840 pro on my desktop, but for secondary PC, like cnc-dedicated one, any will do
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[23:43:59] <MrHindsight> zeeshan: OCZ
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/171784-ocz-files-for-bankruptcy-toshiba-to-acquire-assets-but-warranties-could-be-lost
[23:44:13] <ssi> Tom_itx: ;)
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[23:45:23] <anarchos2> my only issue is that this super cheap computer i'm making for the controller is going to be more powerful than any of my desktops :P
[23:45:55] <anarchos2> maybe i should reconsider and buy a cheapo desktop first, as there's nothing wrong with my controller as is....i just wanted something small to mount into the control cabinet
[23:48:26] <zeeshan> mr hindsight ahhh
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