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[00:11:47] <JT-Shop> 1400F
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[00:14:32] <Tom_itx> that could take a while too
[00:14:48] <Tom_itx> i'd guess 3-4 hrs maybe?
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[00:16:43] * Tom_itx thinks JT-Shop is working overtime
[00:18:00] <WalterN> making more copper parts
[00:18:19] <WalterN> sat down to take a break and I really dont feel like getting up
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[00:24:02] <Jymmm> WalterN: There's beer 3ft outside your reach.
[00:24:16] <WalterN> heh
[00:24:26] <WalterN> Jymmm: I have vodka in the trunk of my car
[00:24:43] <Jymmm> that's too far
[00:25:06] <WalterN> well, its a good thing I don't really like beer then
[00:26:45] <WalterN> hmm
[00:28:01] <PetefromTn_> Well I managed to pickup the exact same angular contact bearings that were in my spindle motor finally today...
[00:28:33] <WalterN> Jymmm: I'm kinda tempted to grab some of that vodka now
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[00:34:45] <MrHindsight> PetefromTn_: did you find them locally?
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[00:46:27] <PetefromTn_> Sorry lost connection somehow LOL
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[00:47:32] <PetefromTn_> anyways I got a quote for the two RHP bearings from my local supplier Industrial Bearing and Transmission of $198.00 for the larger bottom bearing and $225.00 for the smaller top bearing.
[00:48:54] <PetefromTn_> I just ordered the pair from this NY company for $200.00 shipped so I feel pretty good about it right now ;). they are USA made Fafnir bearings and like I said they are the exact same dimensions and specs and speed ratings of the ones in the motor. Actually they are speed rated HIGHER with grease then the ones in the original motor setup.
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[01:08:43] <Tom_itx> the bearing supply never called back
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[01:19:04] <Jymmm> WalterN: lol
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[01:21:04] <CaptHindsight> Timken owns Fafnir
[01:21:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.astbearings.com/fafnir-ball-bearings.html
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[02:32:56] <timm_> anybody here tonight?
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[02:33:22] <XXCoder> me
[02:34:36] <timm_> I've been working on retrofitting a Haas VF1 , tool changer is going to be a challenge
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[02:36:06] <XXCoder> cool. been too bust to make my own... because I use hurco vm10 at work lol
[02:37:00] <timm_> i'm waiting for Tkamsker to return from his vacation, looks like he's been able to get a carousel changer to work with Z axis movement.
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[02:41:15] <WalterN> Jymmm: I'm home now... so I can dig into that vodka :3
[02:41:56] <timm_> His Chris Radek here tonight?
[02:42:00] <timm_> Is
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[02:59:37] <anarchos2> is there any way to temporarily ignore a limit switch?
[03:00:22] <anarchos2> such as...my limit switch is tripped on an axis, but i can't turn the power on to move the table away from the limit switch since the switch is flipped and prevents anything from happening
[03:02:03] <anarchos2> hmm, maybe he "ignore limits" check box in gmoccapy that seems to not work in my case?
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[03:04:56] <XXCoder> odd I would think it would only allow motion away from limit when triggered not disallow all
[03:05:09] <XXCoder> but then not expert
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[03:06:01] <anarchos2> i think it's a bug in gmoccapy maybe. clicking "ignore limits" then turning the power on doesn't work, but if you click ignore limits, then unclick it, and click it again, it works.
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[03:33:12] <zeeshan|3> anarchos usually people have a momentary switch inline with their limit switches
[03:33:17] <zeeshan|3> to bypass the limit switches
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[03:55:20] <anarchos2> i see.
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[06:00:27] <anarchos2> shoot
[06:00:49] <anarchos2> anyone have gmoccapy.glade from 1.1.5.7?
[06:00:57] <anarchos2> accidently overwrote my backup file :P
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[06:28:56] <archivist> anarchos2, should be in
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=history;f=share/gmoccapy;hb=HEAD somewhere
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[06:47:38] <Deejay> moin
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[08:43:37] <anarchos2> archivist: thanks
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[08:46:58] <anarchos2> i'm still a little confused as to the correct way to fully use gmoccapy. it works great by just changing DISPLAY = gmoccapy
[08:47:10] <anarchos2> but the wiki talks about all these config files I don't seem to have.
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[11:11:10] <jthornton> yea it's Friday
[11:11:12] <Loetmichel> harhar, sometimes i am an asshole... i just thanked the seller for delivering the defective notebook so quick, and said thet the repair was just replugging the display cable and changeing the hdd... only after hitting send it came to me that taht want the nicest move to do ;-)
[11:12:11] <jthornton> I just checked the kiln and the temp was 190F so it was a nice slow cooling for the part
[11:16:40] <archivist> I need a kiln to blue stuff
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[11:17:20] <archivist> I just ordered a temperature controller and thermocouple
[11:17:22] <jthornton> I was surprised how hot the outside got when the inside was 1500F
[11:18:23] <jthornton> I need to swap the pottery control for a temperature controller
[11:18:24] <archivist> more insulation needed
[11:18:25] <jthornton> which controller did you order?
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[11:22:26] <archivist> an expensive one!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400622511718
[11:22:35] <jthornton> Tom_itx, I have 2Gb of data left for the month so when you have a link on the heat treating manual I'll download it
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[11:23:30] <jthornton> can you program it?
[11:23:34] <archivist> funny how they claim the manual is in chinese but show a scan in english
[11:24:56] <jthornton> doesn't even look like chinglish
[11:25:33] <archivist> perhaps the paper I will get will be chinglish and I will need to print that scan
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[11:27:35] <jthornton> I need one that is good to 1300C
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[11:28:45] <archivist> blue is sub 400 deg c so it is ok for clock hand blue at about 340 ish
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[11:31:25] <archivist> at the old clockworks we used a cooker hotplate with an added sheet of brass covered in filings, and stood there watching the item
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[11:33:05] <archivist> my kind of bueing
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2008/2008_10_07_Gear_cutting_examples/p1010060.jpg
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[11:35:49] <jthornton> http://www.ebay.com/itm/PID-DIGITAL-TEMPERATURE-CONTROLLER-KIT-SSR-OUTPUT-/321486037304?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ada0fa138
[11:36:16] <jthornton> does that prevent rust from forming?
[11:36:47] <archivist> it helps a lot
[11:37:45] <archivist> not perfect a rust preventer but looks good too
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[11:38:11] <jthornton> I need a small oven like in the ebay listing
[11:38:22] <archivist> that image was my clockmakers 1st year exam piece
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[11:41:04] <archivist> I found this one earlier
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181503640889
[11:42:01] <jthornton> that's a pretty small one but a good price... oh that is in pounds
[11:42:43] <archivist> and it is 980 deg c max I found
http://www.electrickilns.co.uk/mini.htm
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[11:46:26] <SpeedEvil> jthornton: 1300C - for what?
[11:46:47] <jthornton> that's the max temperature of the kiln
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[11:49:53] <jthornton> 2350F actually is the max temperature of the kiln
[11:51:12] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, i'll get that here shortly...
[11:51:28] <SpeedEvil> jthornton: what're you wanting it for?
[11:52:32] <SpeedEvil> I sort-of-wish I had a better kiln.
[11:53:30] <jthornton> to replace the kiln controller that works in cones
[11:54:07] <SpeedEvil> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxynitride
[11:54:12] <SpeedEvil> ah
[11:56:16] <SpeedEvil> Fun material - but you need ~2000C to make it
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[12:13:37] <Jymmm> One -2000C ice bitch coming up... "Your cooking sucks, your mother can never visit, and you're lousy in bed"
[12:13:53] <Jymmm> oh, and I did your sister AND mother too!
[12:14:13] <Jymmm> That should be good for -3000C =)
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[12:21:35] <ssi_> jthornton: I have a kiln lying around that I've been wanting to put a controller on
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[12:23:07] <jthornton> I just bought a controller off of flea bay
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[12:24:04] <jthornton> http://www.ebay.com/itm/KILN-OVEN-PID-TEMPERATURE-CONTROLLER-KIT-SSR-OUTPUT-/321486934091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ada1d504b
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[12:28:04] <ssi> yea that'd probabyl be the easiest way to go
[12:28:37] <CaptHindsight> Aluminium oxynitride, what century is this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_materials#Transparent_aluminum
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[12:39:52] <skunkworks> kinda neat I guess...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp0k-O1_KP8
[12:40:40] <skunkworks> but if you can't program feeds correctly - you probably shouldn't have a cnc...
[12:42:41] <Jymmm> Isn't the whole purpos of cnc is so you don't have to be cranking the bp handles?! lol
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[12:48:31] <CaptHindsight> the could market this as a fitness device, crank, pedal, curl, run to interact with the cnc
[12:48:42] <Jymmm> lol
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[12:56:29] <_methods> yes free workouts here at my shop
[12:56:40] <_methods> i'll supply you with 25lb parts to lift all day
[12:56:44] <_methods> and handles to turn lol
[12:57:22] <_methods> man we've been sitting on a fitness craze all this time
[12:57:32] <_methods> must capitalize on this
[13:00:05] <archivist> skunkworks, useful for testing a program
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[13:03:23] <_methods> singleblock++
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[13:09:08] <skunkworks> sure - I could see it.
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[13:22:39] <cradek> weird to see him turning the wheel the wrong way on that lathe program
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[13:26:12] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, it passed the file test on the welded area
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[13:55:32] <veremit> does anyone here know where the firmware config files live? What firmware should I use for a 5i20 with a 7i37 and 7i33 attached?!
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[14:03:03] <pcw_home> probably svst4_8
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[14:04:44] <pcw_home> 5i20 firmware should be in /lib/firmware/hm2/5i20
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[14:05:34] <veremit> ah firmware/hm2 ..
[14:05:44] <veremit> thanks
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[15:29:44] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w&feature=youtu.be Can this run LInuxCNC?
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[15:33:19] <archivist> how did that snake oil salesman keep a straight face
[15:33:25] <stt_michaelz> pcw_home .. I tried to use the SVST4_* firmware.. but its not in the 5i20 package I have available here .. any thoughts?!
[15:33:37] <PetefromTn_> I dunno man it must have been extremely difficult LOL\
[15:33:59] <stt_michaelz> obviously for my application .. 8 servos and 2 servos (SVST2* and SVST8*) aren't appropriate either :(
[15:34:51] <stt_michaelz> am I going to have to roll my own version for the 5i20 card!?
[15:36:01] <PetefromTn_> Whats a differential girdle spring on the upend of the grammeters? HEHEhe
[15:44:52] <stt_michaelz> next question is... why doesn't pncconf detect my 5i20 card?!
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[15:51:01] <cnc123> Hello, I just recieved my Laser Engraver I bought off Amazon :
[15:51:03] <cnc123> http://tinyurl.com/k9vuvls
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[15:51:15] <cnc123> The manuel calls it a K40
[15:51:34] <cnc123> I've downloaded the most recent LinuxCNC iso
[15:51:39] <cnc123> and put it on a usb drive
[15:51:41] <pcw_home> if any 5I20 firmware is there svst4_8 firmware should be there
[15:51:58] <cnc123> I've booted it, and not I dont' know what to do :)
[15:52:28] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: what did you want to do with it?
[15:53:05] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: do you want to control the K40 with it?
[15:53:07] <cnc123> I've opened LinuxCNC, and I dont' knwo what to do. I don't know if it's detecting the device
[15:53:14] <cnc123> CaptHindsight: yes
[15:53:27] <cnc123> I just want to burn an image onto a peace of wood for now
[15:53:31] <cnc123> just to see it work
[15:53:47] <cnc123> There is a play button, but it's greyed out.
[15:54:23] <cnc123> I went into the setup for LinuxCNC, but I don't really know what to input for the options
[15:55:02] <cnc123> It's in my garage and I dont' have internet on that computer, so I've been running in and out of my house, googleing something and then running back out and trying it.
[15:55:13] <cnc123> I figured I ask here for direction.
[15:55:53] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: it doesn't quite work like that, it's not like installing a word processor, plugging in the USB cable to the printer and pressing Print
[15:56:19] <cnc123> Ok, well... then what do I do?
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[15:56:37] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: the software you got with the laser might work that way
[15:57:31] <cnc123> I was hoping not to use Windows XP. The only reason I bought it was because I've read that it should work with Linux.
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[15:58:25] <CaptHindsight> USB Port to Computer.MoshiDraw Software Included.
[15:58:42] <CaptHindsight> MoshiDraw, this machine can work well with multiple graphic formats including EMF/JPG/PLT/WMF.
[15:59:20] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: do you have a link to the actual manufacturer of the laser engraver?
[15:59:53] <cnc123> so what can I do with LinuxCNC? This video says it's running LinuxCNC with the K40:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEVeHWpXeF4
[15:59:58] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: does you laser engraver have a parallel port (LPT)?
[16:00:09] <cnc123> CaptHindsight: not on the outside
[16:00:13] <cnc123> maybe inside
[16:01:34] <CaptHindsight> cnc123:
http://www.cnc-arena.com/en/forum/linuxcnc-laser-control-why-you-dont-need-dsp--186700.html
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[16:03:57] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: never mind that link, he just used some of the parts from the K40
[16:04:17] <cnc123> CaptHindsight: yeah, I read that earlier. Didn't really help :)
[16:04:34] <cnc123> CaptHindsight: what do you use LinuxCNC for?
[16:07:21] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: Linuxcnc doesn't work over usb, it's also designed to control the motor drivers in your laser engraver vs send files to the engravers control board
[16:07:39] <cnc123> CaptHindsight: well, I wish I knew that before I bought this.
[16:07:51] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: nothing more is certain without specs
[16:08:03] <cnc123> well, I'll look around for another option and then return it if I can't get it working
[16:08:08] <cnc123> that's for the help.
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[16:08:43] <CaptHindsight> if you're handy you might be able to replace the current controller with hardware that Linuxcnc supports
[16:09:08] <cnc123> Yeah, I don't want to start messing with that, because then I can't return it if I screw something up.
[16:09:11] <CaptHindsight> where is the parallel port the Amamzon page mentions?
[16:09:49] <cnc123> I was hoping this would be easy. If I was toing to get into the hardware part of it I would follow tutorials on building one from scratch
[16:09:52] <cnc123> :)
[16:10:31] <CaptHindsight> I'm just taking a wild guess but if it has a parallel port that has Step and Direction inputs and laser PWM then it might be less of a project
[16:11:43] <CaptHindsight> cnc123: is there a detailed data sheet somewhere for your engraver?
[16:12:13] <cnc123> I came across one while googling easlier
[16:12:21] <cnc123> so it's online somewhere
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[16:19:27] <CaptHindsight> the poster of those videos doesn't explain what he did
[16:22:32] <stt_michaelz> pcw_home .. I can assure you I can't see it .. and LinuxCNC fails when I specify it :) I do only have the 5i20 ubuntu package installed .. version 0.8.13.g3e60a9b
[16:23:14] <pcw_home> what is in /lib/firmware/hm2/5i20?
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[16:27:29] <stt_michaelz> sec let me log irc on the box ..
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[16:28:13] <linuxcnc> ah nice .. lol
[16:28:24] <linuxcnc> <= stT_michael
[16:29:15] <cradek> hostmot2-firmware-5i20:
http://pastie.org/9513301
[16:29:30] <linuxcnc> ok so I see sv12*, svst2_* svst8_* svtp6_* and tpen6_
[16:29:36] <cradek> no
[16:29:37] <linuxcnc> ah hold on .. pastebin shortly ..
[16:29:38] <cradek> they are uppercase
[16:29:44] <linuxcnc> uppser, yes, sorry my bad
[16:30:52] <linuxcnc> http://pastebin.com/9YdPv4DS
[16:31:42] <linuxcnc> hmm I don't see any SVST4 there either ...
[16:31:48] <pcw_home> ok so svst8_4 should be fine
[16:32:01] <pcw_home> or sv12
[16:32:04] <linuxcnc> no .. thats too many servos .. I need the IOs for IOs in the 7i37 cards
[16:32:17] <pcw_home> sv12 is fine
[16:32:22] <linuxcnc> it is?
[16:32:27] <pcw_home> yep
[16:32:56] <linuxcnc> And my card should be auto-detected in pncconf once I've opened LinuxCNC with that config?
[16:33:41] <pcw_home> not sure about pncconf but the sample hm2-servo config should run
[16:34:02] <linuxcnc> yes I've copied a .. hold on ..
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[16:34:24] <pcw_home> I think pncconf should give you some firmware choices
[16:34:42] <linuxcnc> it's so far only come up wth the 5i25 default
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[16:35:58] <pcw_home> well than use the hm2-servo demo as a starting point
[16:36:25] <linuxcnc> ok so I've misinterpreted the firmware naming convention :)
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[17:03:16] <pcw_home> sv=servo st=stepper so SV12 is a 12 axis servo only config
[17:03:18] <pcw_home> svst8_4 is a 8 axis servo+4 axis stepper config
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[17:06:18] <linuxcnc> but presumably you can override the 'extras' and they default to IOs ..
[17:06:37] <linuxcnc> the crash dump I just caused seems to suggest this :)
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[17:36:41] <PCW_> linuxcnc: man hostmot2
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[17:48:06] <stt_michaelz> yeah had a quick look at that earlier .. the documentation isn't explicit .. but I s'pose there's enough there to work stuff out :)
[17:48:27] <stt_michaelz> short answer is there aren't any short cuts ... its just gonna take time to figure it out
[17:52:36] <Tom_itx> but rewarding
[17:52:51] <stt_michaelz> its for a customer .. so I don't see the benefits :)
[17:53:01] <stt_michaelz> although it might find uses elsewhere
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[17:54:51] <stt_michaelz> given we already have 2x HAAS 3-axis CNC mills and 1x Hurco CNC mill, one vintage double-head CNC lathe and a Ecoca CNC in the workshop ....
[17:56:41] <stt_michaelz> A friend is converting an old bridgeport to 5-axis though .. so thats where the "fun" really begins :)
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[23:37:25] <anarchos2_> got my belt drive kit today
[23:37:31] <anarchos2_> works pretty good it seems!
[23:38:17] <anarchos2_> had some trouble getting on of the pulleys onto the shaft, but with a bit of persuasion with a dead blow, and flipping it around and driving it on backwards to loosen things up, it finally went on
[23:40:44] <Tom_itx> hope you didn't knock something else out driving that pulley on the shaft
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[23:43:09] <anarchos2_> hopefully not, it required quite a bit of bashing :P
[23:43:55] <Tom_itx> a bit of polishing on the shaft may have been a better choice
[23:44:50] <anarchos2_> yes
[23:45:07] <anarchos2_> i lack the tools/supplies for that
[23:45:15] <anarchos2_> i do have a rubber mallet, though :P
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[23:51:39] <CaptHindsight> anarchos2_: have a link to the kit? What size belt drive?
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[23:57:45] <anarchos2_> http://www.mbbilici.com/?p=85
[23:58:03] <anarchos2_> 5m355, which i believe is 5mm x 355mm
[23:58:26] <anarchos2_> i just emailed the guy and offered him less money than what he has them for on the site, and he accepted :)
[23:59:10] <anarchos2_> so basically i got it for $90 including shipping (and no tax or anything) versus $155 + ship + possibly duty from littlemachineshop.com
