#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-08-26

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[00:00:01] <cpresser> thats why i cant buy machines from great britain :)
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[00:07:51] <CaptHindsight> cpresser: I see lots of brands like this that I never see in the US http://www.ebay.de/itm/DREHBANK-DREHMASCHINE-VON-WEIPERT-IDEAL-FUR-JEDEN-SCHLOSSERBETRIEB-/171416812914
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[00:09:15] <cpresser> thats a pre-war model. 1939
[00:15:12] <CaptHindsight> Drehmaschine = Lathe, but literal translation is Torque Machine, interesting
[00:15:43] <cpresser> literally, it would be 'Turn Machine'
[00:16:19] <cpresser> its also the verb used. turning == drehen
[00:17:32] <CaptHindsight> torque = Drehmoment, ok
[00:18:59] <cpresser> we also call it 'Drehbank' which would translate to 'Turning Bench'
[00:19:20] <CaptHindsight> and a milling machine is a Fräse?
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[00:21:39] <cpresser> yes
[00:22:36] <cpresser> an interesting fact: we dont have such words as gantry or kneemill do distuingish between different types
[00:24:13] <CaptHindsight> cpresser: are you working the late shift today?
[00:25:04] <cpresser> i always work the late shift. because i am to lazy to get up in the mornign :P
[00:25:47] <cpresser> but i am heading home now. 2:30AM is enoght for today
[00:25:51] <cpresser> gn8
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[01:53:01] <anarchos2> so i'm thinking of ways to automate my tool library between hsmexpress and linuxcnc's database...anyone ever done it before?
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[01:56:25] <cradek> I don't know what hsmexpress is, but be aware you can set the tool table entries with G10 commands in your gcode
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[01:56:45] <benjamin23> anyone around
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[01:58:44] <anarchos2> cradek, ah i was not away of that...hsmexpress is the free (limited to 2.5D) version of hsmworks, a CAM program for SolidWorks or Autodesk...i think Autodesk now owns it.
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[01:59:37] <benjamin23> where can I find some info to reduce latency, or at least learn what causes it
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[02:02:31] <Jymmm> benjamin23: disable things in BIOS that you don't need.
[02:03:25] <Jymmm> that's pretty much all you can do. It's all based on the North/South bridges and the design of the mobo itself.
[02:03:54] <benjamin23> ok. I will do that now. I am reading over the wiki latency-test and I'm having a hard time making a connection, unless people are putting on bogus info
[02:04:10] <cradek> what are your numbers?
[02:05:49] <benjamin23> 18k and 10k using onboard video stealing 1GB ram from the 4GB available
[02:06:14] <cradek> those are fine
[02:06:20] <cradek> don't worry about it
[02:06:23] <benjamin23> what confuses me is some older machine significantly out perform newer ones
[02:06:55] <cradek> sure, get yourself a smp P3 if you need great numbers. but you don't -- 18k is beautiful
[02:07:20] <anarchos2> gmoccapy makes me want to get a touch screen, i think
[02:07:26] <benjamin23> smp p3?
[02:07:32] <cradek> unless you need extremely high step rates, in which case get yourself a mesa card with a smart step generator
[02:08:13] <cradek> because latency is a nice number you can mess with for days trying to improve, it gets more attention than it deserves. if you're under 30k it's fine, move on with your build
[02:08:56] <anarchos2> benjamin23, i have 17k latency and have not noticed any problems at all
[02:11:33] <benjamin23> interesting. I don't plan on micro-stepping, I figure that if I need smaller or more precise movement, I'll gear it down which will give more torque anywayu
[02:12:54] <benjamin23> also, for the BIOS parallel port settings, there is PS/2, EPP, ECP... any particulars?
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[02:17:19] <cradek> acpi power saving, speed scaling
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[02:21:34] <benjamin23> both have been shut off
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[02:21:59] <benjamin23> I did notice a latency decrease going from analogue to DVI video
[02:24:21] <benjamin23> I've also thought about the installation process. on some computers, including newer ones, the computer hardward, whatever it is, doesn't like EXT4 and, it *seems* to me, EXT3 is faster
[02:24:41] <benjamin23> I have stupid fingers tonight, damn. hardward=hardware
[02:35:20] <Jymmm> I have some nice SPST snap-in rocker switches, but could use some DPDT toggle switches, anyone wanna trade?
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[03:04:27] * Tom_itx gives Jymmm a N/O reed switch instead
[03:06:01] <Jymmm> Nah, too much of a pita
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[10:47:53] <Loetmichel> *gnah* ... it wasnt _that_ wise to "drill" in the itching ear with the finger that had seen quite a spill of chili powerder... no it dosent itch... it burns ;-)
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[10:59:18] <Valen> Loetmichel: milk stat
[11:00:57] <Loetmichel> no need. it dulls out eventaully
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[11:06:42] <SolarNRG> hi guys, Can I ask for your advice on my machine I'm building I have a photo of the parts I've got atm, can I please post it here?
[11:11:44] <archivist> sure
[11:12:00] <Valen> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[11:12:01] <Valen> ;->
[11:12:10] <Loetmichel> SolarNRG: post a LINK to the photo here please, not the photo ;-)
[11:12:14] <archivist> we might laugh
[11:12:23] <Valen> I'd like him to post the photo
[11:12:33] <Loetmichel> (no need for 100s of lines of base64 encoded glibberish ;-)
[11:12:34] <Valen> it'd be funny ;->
[11:14:02] <SpeedEvil> image:/ links catch out so many
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[11:19:00] <SolarNRG> http://i.imgur.com/HZyiWAB.jpg
[11:20:45] <SolarNRG> here are my thrust bearings for my trapezoid thread up close: http://i.imgur.com/DF8B5aZ.jpg
[11:22:37] <SolarNRG> what are your thoughts, use the stainless pipe for rails or the thinner but solid stainless bar?
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[11:30:28] <SpeedEvil> As a 0th order approximation - most of the stiffness comes from the very outside of a beam.
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[11:34:42] <SolarNRG> you think the wider pipe would be better?
[11:36:01] <SolarNRG> I was thinking to reduce sag welding angle iron or box steel diaganolly underneath the pipe: http://i.imgur.com/YXWnWgK.jpg
[11:36:21] <archivist> for what definition of better draw up the proposed cnc
[11:36:29] <SolarNRG> I went to the engineering shop today to ask about linear bearings, the biggest he did had inner diam of 40mm and they looked flimsy as %#!£
[11:36:52] <SolarNRG> So I'm sticking with the custom made linear bearings made from 6 crane pulleys each rail
[11:37:39] <archivist> your bearings and their support are the weak point
[11:38:22] <jthornton> heres an option http://www.glacern.com/photos/sbr_01.jpg
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[11:47:31] <SolarNRG> I wish they sold those here, but they don't, so I need to fabricate something of my own, but thanks for the link jthornton, that looks similar to what I was proposing, theres a few degrees around the cylinder rail that is attached to it that gives it better strength and reducing shear, bending etc.
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[11:48:08] <Tom_itx> china ships everywhere i thought!
[11:48:16] <SolarNRG> I was thinking of using a circular hole cutter to cut holes in the box steel and slot the pipes into it, but now I'm thinking weld together a box steel cube and weld some angle iron on top and weld the pipes on top of the box steel
[11:48:27] <SolarNRG> Things go missing in Cyprus post
[11:48:41] <SolarNRG> Customs house gets smashed up for refusing to let you have your goods
[11:48:44] <SolarNRG> corruption is rife
[11:48:47] <Tom_itx> get a job at the post and you can build one for free
[11:48:52] <SolarNRG> unless you pay cash and buy it there and then you don't have it
[11:49:10] <SolarNRG> lol, you need to be fucking the police chief's daughter for that
[11:49:13] <jthornton> don't forget to normalize the structure after all that welding
[11:49:27] <SolarNRG> jthornton, what making sure its all square and level?
[11:49:44] <Tom_itx> heat treat it
[11:49:51] <jthornton> relieving the stresses from welding
[11:49:51] <Tom_itx> anneal then heat treat
[11:51:13] <Tom_itx> i wonder if cryo has the same effect
[11:51:25] <SolarNRG> I can go over it with a blowtorch, that's about my tech level
[11:51:48] <Tom_itx> should be even heat
[11:51:59] <SolarNRG> quick question, never done this before, what happens if you weld mild steel to stainless?
[11:52:28] <SolarNRG> I've done stainless stainless and mild to mild, but never mild to stainless before, what alloy should I be using?
[11:53:07] <jthornton> it won't matter
[11:53:49] <SolarNRG> I've been informed that in order to ensure the rails are perfectly parallel a good way to check is make sure the diagonals are equal
[11:54:16] <SolarNRG> like distance from rail1 front to rail2 back is equal to rail2 front to rail1 back
[11:54:20] <jthornton> you can also peen the welds to relax them
[11:55:47] <SolarNRG> my daughter is playing with a bearing, are they bad for kids?
[11:56:12] <Tom_itx> if they swallow it
[11:56:17] <SolarNRG> too big
[11:56:17] <archivist> other way round the daughter is bad for the bearing
[11:56:23] <SolarNRG> lol
[11:59:15] <SolarNRG> oh one more question, when I got the sections of box steel cut, they are a couple of mm different in size, any suggestions for getting them all the same length?
[11:59:34] <archivist> file
[11:59:41] <SolarNRG> I got an angle grinder
[12:00:16] <jthornton> clamp them together and use a square to layout lines to grind to
[12:00:49] <SolarNRG> good idea
[12:01:25] <SolarNRG> I only have 2 big clamps big enough to do that, they're probably heavy enough that I won't need to worry about clamping it to the table, will I?
[12:01:42] <SolarNRG> I mean grinding small stuff it's GOT to be clamped to the table or else it'll fly into my face
[12:05:02] <jthornton> only you know the answer to that question
[12:05:30] <jdh> I know the answer, but I'm not going to tell you.
[12:05:57] <archivist> or you go to a local machine shop to get stuff milled to size
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[12:11:49] <jdh> is that possible? affordable for normal people?
[12:13:35] <jdh> I get stuff made for work, but it always seems absurdly expensive.
[12:13:58] <archivist> depends on flashing notes to a small place
[12:14:57] <jdh> I want some round phenolic pieces. 6 inches long. Center 2" 0.404, outer 2" 0.350. can be within 0.005
[12:15:16] <archivist> I go to a local to get broken taps edm'd out, costs about a tenner
[12:15:44] <jdh> $38/each
[12:15:50] <archivist> for some I am the local :)
[12:16:38] <jthornton> same here
[12:20:40] <SolarNRG> This is about as far ahead as I can think, this is what I think the machine will look like at theend of the 1st stage of construction: http://i.imgur.com/7FkmbYA.jpg
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[12:24:46] <SolarNRG> is there any disadvantage to having the thread lower than the rails?
[12:24:47] <archivist> what are you intending to machine on it
[12:25:27] <SolarNRG> Well hopefully when I got the cash get a water cooled 3kw spindle and mill mild steel :)
[12:25:40] <jdh> I would think that having the screws in plane with the rail would be 'better', but depending on the mounts, it could be negligible.
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[12:25:42] <SolarNRG> and some cutting fluid dispensers like 5 or 6 of them that can go on and off
[12:26:42] <SolarNRG> the mounts I'm intending on making with 6 crane pulleys tap and die them into a section of 5 inch pipe with a section cut off to allow it not to interfere with the angle iron
[12:27:27] <archivist> machined for steel are usually made a lot more rigid and accurate
[12:27:34] <archivist> machines
[12:28:48] <archivist> your cutting forces can lift the moving part of the machine off the rails
[12:29:05] <SolarNRG> accuracy I can do, it's all about grind, measure grind measure, weld, measure, grind, remeasure, its rigid i don't get, sure I can weld together a tonne of steel
[12:29:19] <SolarNRG> but it's making it all and making it all right first time that's the hard part
[12:29:40] <SolarNRG> nayway I g2g, gotta pick up mommy
[12:29:46] <jdh> dont' bother shooting for makint it right the first time.
[12:29:48] <SolarNRG> I'll be back later, thanks for your input
[12:29:51] <archivist> I dont expect to see any hand grinding on an accurate machine
[12:30:05] <SolarNRG> jdh, even if I get sOMETHING that works I'll be happy
[12:30:14] <SolarNRG> it can always be modified
[12:30:20] <jdh> that's much more reasonable
[12:31:02] <SolarNRG> chacnes are my rails will be like 1mm off center
[12:31:06] <SolarNRG> and that'll add up to a lot
[12:31:12] <SolarNRG> anyway see you in a couple of hours
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[14:46:47] <jdh> ok. we've been waiting for you.
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[14:51:33] <James628> Is there anybody who can help in some plasma quetions? 1) How I can identify a CNC friendly plasma cutter? What kind of signals I need to have available? Trigger, Arc OK, Volts anything else ?
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[14:56:01] <rwlloyd> People of the IRC. Any chance anyone has any experience with chinese cnc controllers. The particuar species I have to deal with is a Hy-TB4 controller. The kind that is split into two boards.
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[14:59:54] <archivist> do you mean drive rather than controller, most in here use linuxcnc as the controller
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[15:00:21] <rwlloyd> Sorry, yes, the driver card(s)
[15:01:39] <archivist> what is the real question anyway
[15:02:52] <rwlloyd> I'd like to use linuxcnc as the controller but while it seems that the dro of the machine registers movement, the motors wont spin... chinese instructions and vendor not responding. I was hopeing someone here might know where at least the proper pinout for the dirver is
[15:03:30] <jdh> looks like a tb6560 board. Did you set the timings for that?
[15:03:55] <rwlloyd> timings in linux cnc?
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[15:04:44] <rwlloyd> I saw somewhere to start with the defaults, 5000,5000, 20000, 20000
[15:05:29] <jdh> probably conservative/fine.
[15:06:09] <jdh> http://reprap.org/wiki/4_Axis_TB6560_CNC_Stepper_Motor_Driver_Board_Controller
[15:06:16] <jdh> might be helpful?
[15:08:15] <rwlloyd> cheers, I'll give it a go with those. I think there might be an enable line somewhere. What is the standard when selecting pin functions in stepconf? if I want to use the enable pin that is?
[15:08:37] <cradek> "amp enable"
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[15:09:36] <rwlloyd> cheers
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[15:56:12] <rwlloyd> I wonder if this is what insanity feels like? I have a mach 3 setup for the driver board. is there any way to convert the xml file to stepconf?
[15:56:42] <archivist> yes to linuxcnc
[15:57:10] <rwlloyd> excellent. Where might i find it?
[15:57:12] <archivist> stepconf is write only
[15:58:17] <archivist> http://linuxcnc.org/hardy/index.php/english/forum/16-stepconf-wizard/25900-mach-3-conversion-to-stepconf-wizard
[15:58:26] <rwlloyd> sorry. hang fire, i havent got the xml file, just some pictures in a pdf of how to set the machine initially
[15:59:33] <archivist> it should be easy enough to work from those pics in stepconf
[16:01:19] <rwlloyd> im getting there i think, just searching for the enable pin. Still have the same p[roblem that the dro registers a signal and movement from linuxcnc but the drives dont move. They can however be jogged around by the pendant
[16:03:42] <rwlloyd> enable pin is pin 14.... it's always the last one you try!
[16:04:15] <cradek> the scheme where they have a pendant that goes to the driver and moves the motors without the computer knowing is very very stupid
[16:05:17] * archivist expects some crashes and war wounds
[16:06:19] <mozmck> who has that scheme?
[16:06:20] <archivist> rwlloyd, rewire the pendant direct to linuxcnc for safety
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[16:06:33] <ssi> spendin all muh bux
[16:06:42] <ssi> just ordered a 100W reci tube
[16:06:58] <jdh> burn!
[16:07:33] <ssi> :D
[16:08:09] <rwlloyd> i inted to get rid of it completely once everything is up and running. It's going into a production environment so i want everything nc program based... I try to never underestimate the ingenuity of idiots. myself included
[16:08:40] <jdh> heh.
[16:08:51] <jdh> cheap chinese tb6560 board in a production environment.
[16:09:23] <jdh> I'd suggest real drives.
[16:09:27] <rwlloyd> its a prototype... I have to prove the whole idea works before i can spend 150k+
[16:09:35] <rwlloyd> so would i!
[16:10:54] <jdh> $250 gecko would probably make life much easier
[16:11:11] <rwlloyd> I planned to just buy the mechanical hardware from china and then get some gecko drives. Then the mechanicals turned up with the electronics and I've been asked to make it work like this
[16:11:18] <ssi> yeah once you blow up a couple tb6550s you learn the lesson :)
[16:11:22] <jdh> heh
[16:11:56] <rwlloyd> I'm more used to 3d printers and aerotech cncs to be honest
[16:12:04] <jdh> wasting an hour of your life screwing with a $50 tb is not a great use of time
[16:12:22] <rwlloyd> hey... they're paying me and its nearly home time
[16:14:00] <archivist> hmm going home time, must be in UK
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[16:58:49] <JesusAlos> hi
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[17:13:59] <JesusAlos> I have a doubt about the speed machine.
[17:14:20] <JesusAlos> Why my machine go at 20000mm/min in G0 X1000 trajectory and 9600mm/min in G1 X1000 trajectory?
[17:14:26] <JesusAlos> with feed rate=F80000
[17:14:50] <JesusAlos> Max speed machine are 20000mm/min
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[17:19:11] <JesusAlos> please..
[17:20:50] <archivist> it does not make sense to attempt a controlled move above your maximum speed
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[17:21:45] <archivist> and which trajectory planner are you using (version of linuxcnc)
[17:22:52] <archivist> in order to be able to stop or change direction there are limits to your speed
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[17:27:07] <JesusAlos> I only put F80000 because limit the speed in aixs, the version I use is 2.6
[17:27:35] <JesusAlos> but this issue was happen too with 2.5
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[17:29:37] <JesusAlos> the machine cuts foam, so can go to high speed
[17:32:38] <jthornton> JesusAlos, please read this http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/User_Concepts.html
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[17:43:18] <PetefromTn_> afternoon folks.
[17:43:56] <PetefromTn_> well I finally got tired of the noise from my Cincinatti Arrow's spindle motor. Tore into it last night.
[17:44:09] <PetefromTn_> Was actually easier than I thought getting that monster out of there.
[17:44:12] <jdh> and after $800 in new bearings?
[17:44:18] <PetefromTn_> It is HEAVY...
[17:44:30] <PetefromTn_> hopefully not but thanks for rooting for me.
[17:44:40] <jdh> any time!
[17:44:54] <PetefromTn_> Pulled it apart today and got some numbers for the bearings.
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[17:45:05] <PetefromTn_> They are of course made in england.
[17:45:11] <PetefromTn_> Seems like they are angular contacts.
[17:45:31] <PetefromTn_> the motor spins at 12k RPM so I guess they will be more expensive than most.
[17:45:48] <PetefromTn_> The bearings are made by RHP in England
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[17:46:03] <PetefromTn_> I could only get numbers off the larger bottom one.
[17:46:40] <PetefromTn_> its B7209x2 TAUL EP7 RHP ENGLAND
[17:47:04] <PetefromTn_> The top one is quite a bit smaller and it is the one that is bad really. It has a lot of free play in it.
[17:47:21] <PetefromTn_> But unfortunately I cannot read the damn numbers on the top one too well.
[17:47:37] <PetefromTn_> It says B7 then something something x2 TAUL RHP England.
[17:47:39] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=rhp they have been gobbled up by another bearing company
[17:47:40] <skunkworks> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=B7209x2&_sacat=0
[17:47:51] <jdh> geez http://www.ebay.com/itm/230921785522
[17:48:01] <PetefromTn_> It is 72x30x19mm
[17:48:46] <PetefromTn_> that is not the correct bearing JDh
[17:48:56] <jdh> I know, jsut a pricey pair
[17:49:02] <PetefromTn_> and that ebay search shows a mated pair atop the list
[17:49:11] <PetefromTn_> I only need ONE bearing for the bottom apparently.
[17:49:16] <archivist> jdh missing the box, cannot be worth that much
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[17:49:18] <PetefromTn_> But I need to figure out the top bearing.
[17:49:29] <PetefromTn_> any ideas?
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[17:49:59] <PetefromTn_> the larger bottom bearing is B7209x2 and its dimensions are 85x45x19
[17:50:00] <jdh> measure?
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[17:50:19] <archivist> you need either the manual or get the bearing fully out to get its number
[17:50:31] <PetefromTn_> The top bearing is B7.........X2 Taul EP7 and its dimenstions are 72x30x19
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[17:50:53] <PetefromTn_> I don't need to get the bearing out I can see the numbers one is just rubbed out somehow.
[17:51:00] <PetefromTn_> I cannot read the number too well.
[17:51:09] <archivist> they may have been set up as a pair
[17:51:10] <PetefromTn_> The top one is the one I need to determine.
[17:51:28] <PetefromTn_> could be I dunno.
[17:52:29] <PetefromTn_> I figure two or three hundred bucks for the new ones hopefully. That is not too bad and if it fixes the spindle noises which I cannot imagine it not will be well worth it.
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[17:52:46] <PetefromTn_> the spindle bearings seem to be pretty tight and smooth.
[17:53:05] <PetefromTn_> I removed the belts from the spindle motor and ran the motor alone and it still sounds like crap.
[17:53:18] <PetefromTn_> So I am fairly confident it is just the spindle motor that is the problem.
[17:53:36] <PetefromTn_> SO any ideas about that bearing?
[17:54:15] <archivist> that item has the numbering scheme http://www.ebay.com/itm/230921785522
[17:54:23] <jdh> have you searched for a motor manual?
[17:55:34] <jdh> my guess is: b7206x2
[17:56:25] <jdh> nope
[17:57:16] <PetefromTn_> it might be 7306 possibly.
[17:58:26] <archivist> note in pairs there is an etched line
[17:58:36] <PetefromTn_> where?
[17:58:52] * archivist has 1990 RHP catalogue in hand
[17:59:00] <jdh> heh
[17:59:02] <PetefromTn_> this is a 1997 machine
[17:59:40] <archivist> it states across the outside diameter
[18:00:11] <PetefromTn_> like on the OD of the outer race?
[18:00:53] <archivist> rhp became nsk http://www.nsk.com/products/spb/
[18:02:10] <PetefromTn_> Seems like they are available anyway.
[18:02:33] <PetefromTn_> Just gotta figure out this top bearing number. I am gonna go look at it with a better light. BRB
[18:04:52] <jdh> http://webshop.abfbearings.com/Bearing/B7306X2-TA-UL-EP7-RHP/521483
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[18:07:06] <PetefromTn_> Okay folks Got out my super peeper magnified glasses and my brightest shop light. It is a B7306X2 Taul but it says E and something that looks like 8 but cannot be sure.
[18:08:14] <jdh> lots of them on ebay, but the 12krpm might be a factor
[18:08:58] <PetefromTn_> I looked for a line but could not find one except where the the bearing OD starts to taper into the curvature there is a very slight line. Could be just from installation I dunno.
[18:10:34] <archivist> they may set them up on the spindle for best balance. or mount then balance
[18:14:15] <PetefromTn_> My friend Lee in England took his motor apart as it was noisy as well. He said the motor had some sealed bearings in it that were only rated for 5k. I am trying to figure out what it needs for both of us LinuxCNC VMC retrofitters LOL.
[18:19:47] <PetefromTn_> http://www.vxb.com/page/bearings/PROD/Kit10030 top bearing?
[18:21:57] <archivist> C3 is low accuracy isnt it?
[18:22:05] <PetefromTn_> dunno
[18:22:56] <archivist> seems too cheap for your application
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[18:23:36] <PetefromTn_> agreed
[18:24:32] <archivist> usable for a short period is you are willing to accept the noise and lower accuracy for a while
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[18:39:44] <PetefromTn_> yup no those are not gonna work, Apparently they are a matched pair... Damn
[18:43:56] <PetefromTn_> Well gotta go pickup my daughter from School BBL.
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[18:44:22] <pfred1> cradek are you here?
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[18:50:34] <onyedikilo> hi, i have a weird problem, when doing a g3 move with x and y axis enabled the machine stalls. If i disable x or y the move is ok. I lowered the accel. and vel. to crawling speeds but it still insists on stalling. Stalls only on g3 move. Any ideas?
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[18:52:13] <pfred1> onyedikilo low current power supply?
[18:52:43] <pfred1> oh only on G3 then maybe it is software
[18:53:20] <pcw_home> stall meaning DRO/plot keeps moving and motors stop?
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[18:54:27] <onyedikilo> pcw_home everything stops with no errors, dro won't move, my board is pmdx 126
[18:54:52] <onyedikilo> also there is a banging noise on the start of the move
[18:55:05] <onyedikilo> as if it is hitting a wall
[18:55:41] <pcw_home> the DRO stops?
[18:56:00] <onyedikilo> yes
[18:57:10] <onyedikilo> maybe i should check it again
[18:57:49] <onyedikilo> bbl
[18:57:52] <pcw_home> yeah see what linuxcnc thinks is happening
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[19:28:03] <JSSKangas_Linux> hello
[19:30:18] <pfred1> hi
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[19:31:27] <jsskangas> -------------------------------i was just testin terminal based irc program on linux
[19:32:00] <pfred1> I use irssi
[19:32:22] <pfred1> trick is to use the right font
[19:32:22] <jsskangas> Same time as I enjous small amount of 10 year old english harbour rom
[19:32:28] <jsskangas> rum
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[19:34:04] <jsskangas> pfred1: have you configured any 4 or 5 axis machine in EMC
[19:34:12] <pfred1> jsskangas no
[19:34:16] <jsskangas> ok
[19:34:56] <jsskangas> im having small problem to get TCP programed to my machine
[19:35:55] <jsskangas> i have done math and implementation for rotating table mode.
[19:36:12] <jsskangas> But i would need some info for non rotating table mode
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[20:21:50] <JesusAlos> GN
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[20:56:30] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:04:23] <skunkworks_> ooh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X28UIZlr2Qk&feature=youtu.be
[21:09:57] <jsskangas> hmmm.. I still would not trust to win to run machine
[21:10:40] <jsskangas> think about timed updates and self restarts...
[21:10:47] <jsskangas> ect...
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[21:56:31] <zeeshan|2> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/2A8AAOSwQItT9AZs/$_57.JPG
[21:56:36] <zeeshan|2> any feedback on these?
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[22:43:45] <zeeshan|2> anyone have experience with kyocera inserts?
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[23:45:49] <alexchally> hi all, the machine I am working on is a 2axis mill with a glass scale on the Z axis, but no servo. How do I alter my ini and or hal file so that when I can use the feedback from the Z axis without causing a follow error?
[23:50:18] <PCW> use the feedback how?
[23:51:14] <alexchally> PCW, just for DRO
[23:51:35] <alexchally> EMC controls X and Y, meatservo (me) controlls Z
[23:51:49] <alexchally> at least until I design/build a Z axis setup
[23:51:57] <PCW> set the ferror limits very wide on Z
[23:52:15] <alexchally> PCW, k, i had thought of that, but I figured it was way hacky
[23:53:02] <PCW> since you are a low performance servo system with large following errors :-)
[23:58:54] <SpeedEvil> 10000000000ns
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