#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-08-17

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[00:38:27] <Tom_itx> archivist does that tester measure shore hardness?
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[01:52:00] <pfred1> does anyone have the md5sum for the Wheezy binary.hybrid.iso file?
[01:58:07] <pcw_home> 0xbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadbadcafe
[02:00:35] <pcw_home> dont they list it on the download page?
[02:00:59] <pfred1> not that I saw there is a sum for the ubuntu version
[02:01:17] * pfred1 got 1d0025a8c1a61fbf32b99ab5797d95e3 binary.hybrid.iso
[02:01:20] <pcw_home> one I have from 10 days ago is
[02:01:21] <pcw_home> 0x1d0025a8c1a61fbf32b99ab5797d95e3
[02:01:31] <pfred1> looks good!
[02:01:52] <pfred1> sweet thanks saved me a plastic tree over here maybe
[02:02:04] <pcw_home> I could not get it to boot from usb though
[02:02:20] <pfred1> yeah no the PC Im putting it on doesn't boot off flash anyways
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[02:02:26] <pfred1> got to burn it
[02:02:55] <pfred1> which is weird because i have two of them and one does boot off flash I guess the bios on the other one is older or something
[02:03:18] <pcw_home> I'm not sure that image will boot from flash
[02:03:37] <pcw_home> (tried 3 machines, no dice)
[02:04:41] <pcw_home> I could have munged the image somehow, I just used the dd example on the wiki page
[02:04:47] <pfred1> the fire is lit over here it is getting burnt
[02:04:58] <pcw_home> Tell me if the DVD boots
[02:05:08] <pfred1> will do
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[02:05:41] <pfred1> I'm burning it with K3b
[02:07:37] <pfred1> heh I didn't know that K3b blew revelry when it finished
[02:12:19] <pfred1> I have it installing
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[02:30:05] <pfred1> I must have screwed something up when I installed I do not see any Linuxcnc stuff on the desktop
[02:30:28] <pfred1> other than that it runs nice though :)
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[02:35:39] <pfred1> I have axis on the desktop now
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[03:00:04] <pcw_home> well may have to find one of those shiny round things with a hole in the middle to try wheezy
[03:00:17] <pfred1> yeah it works here
[03:00:32] <pfred1> I just ran stepconf
[03:00:52] <pfred1> that machine is under 12,000ns
[03:01:13] <pfred1> for a while it was holding under 11,00 but when I shut down glsgears there was a bit of a spike
[03:01:20] <pfred1> glxgears even
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[03:03:01] <pfred1> I built my own custom Wheezy system a while ago but that machine developed a problem with its on board graphics chip
[03:03:12] <pfred1> frigging BGA popped up on me
[03:03:54] <pfred1> if I push it back down it works again but I feel it is just kind of sketchy now
[03:04:03] <pcw_home> popped off the board?
[03:04:18] <pfred1> yeah I guess I mean it didn't fall off but there is definitely a problem going on there
[03:04:42] <pfred1> gotta love lead free solder I guess
[03:05:00] <Jymmm> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[03:05:45] <pcw_home> when we first changed to RoHS we hard a number of boards that if you twisted the PCBs a bit the BGAs would fall off
[03:05:46] <pfred1> it is a shame because that machine ran really well
[03:06:20] <pfred1> yeah something happened to it this winter in the cold
[03:06:26] <pcw_home> (before the assy houses got the process down)
[03:08:50] <pcw_home> Not seen a soldering problem for years now though lead free solder is a PITA if you have to hand solder
[03:09:34] <pfred1> that box is from 2007
[03:09:53] <pcw_home> yeah thats the transition time
[03:10:15] <pfred1> yup they didn't quite have it down then yet
[03:11:00] <pcw_home> Needed PCB material changes also
[03:11:28] <pcw_home> (for the higher soldering temperature)
[03:11:36] <pfred1> meh I only paid $5 for it but I lost the setup too
[03:12:11] <Jymmm> Is anyone aware of SS screws that are intended to "self tap" but NOT with a pointed end?
[03:12:21] <pfred1> I was thinking about trying to rig some kind of a clamp to hold teh chip down
[03:12:35] <Tom_itx> Jymmm if anybody would it would be fastenal
[03:12:49] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: oh gawd no, I hate that place.
[03:12:50] <pcw_home> rare earth magnets
[03:13:19] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: They primarily deal with constraction hardware, not fine thread stuff (around here)
[03:13:31] <pcw_home> (if the BGA has no heatsink)
[03:13:54] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: But I don't even know the NAME of them
[03:14:00] <pfred1> it might I can't even remember now I just pushed it once
[03:16:34] <Tom_itx> there are ones with a drill on the end or a slit on the end for self tapping
[03:16:53] <Tom_itx> http://www.fordfasteners.com/
[03:18:28] <pfred1> I wonder if it is safe to update that system or not?
[03:18:32] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: Yeah, those are NOT the ones I'm talking about, but ty
[03:18:55] <Tom_itx> not sure about fine threaded ones
[03:21:39] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, like some electrical boxes use?
[03:27:36] <pfred1> Jymmm we used some nice self drilling/self tapping SS screws working on a car wash once
[03:27:55] <pfred1> they even had sealing washer
[03:28:24] <pfred1> I still got a bunch
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[06:52:12] <Deejay> moin
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[10:26:21] <archivist> anyone in scotland want some iron http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mazak-CNC-Mill-/171423778653
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[11:02:09] <SpeedEvil> In principle, I could, if I maxed out my credit cards, and spent all my savings for heating for the winter
[11:02:46] <SpeedEvil> I think - on balance - I _probably_ would be better served by something rather smaller.
[11:11:02] <archivist> wear more layers, then you dont need heating
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[11:12:30] <Lathe_newbie> hi there
[11:12:51] <Lathe_newbie> anyone here experience with linear delta robots like rostock 3d printers
[11:12:52] <Lathe_newbie> ?
[11:13:16] <archivist> ask the real question
[11:14:29] <Lathe_newbie> how to implement the kinematics for something like this?
[11:14:35] <Lathe_newbie> are there any examples?
[11:15:38] <archivist> yes I do believe, have you searched the samples and sim directories
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[11:27:18] <Lathe_newbie> im looking for code for something like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgnxBaFFDi8
[11:30:39] <archivist> he has a site somewhere I think
[11:31:07] <Lathe_newbie> i didnt found it
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[11:40:38] <archivist> look at description on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MOSnFSx8JQ&list=UUsyQLjKgnIRvhlW7nLwyAqQ
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[11:44:40] <Lathe_newbie> for this type i have found the kinematics
[11:44:50] <Lathe_newbie> but i need for a linear tripod
[11:46:45] <archivist> that points to his site, have you then searched his site
[11:50:00] <archivist> and then I searched his nick and found http://blog.machinekit.io/2013/07/linear-delta-kinematics.html
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[12:15:04] <Lathe_newbie> archivist: the source file is not available
[12:16:04] <archivist> and that page shows jeplers repo
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[12:19:26] <Lathe_newbie> but this tree is empty
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[12:23:29] <Loetmichel> harhar... $me had just found 2 orginal shrink wrapped packs of cigarettes in his desk. I switched to vaping last october... I wonder: should i bring the packs to the co-worker as a gift or are they already dried out?
[12:25:41] <Lathe_newbie> have found them
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[13:15:56] <DaViruz> Loetmichel: smoke one and see :)
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[13:31:57] <skunkworks> Lathe_newbie: how is the lathe working?
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[13:41:31] <Jymmm> Plastic-Dip painted car https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zROKTpH1U1Y
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[14:49:43] <Lathe_newbie> skunkworks: it is up and running
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[16:24:48] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkq-qyY9aY its limitations
[16:28:02] <MrSunshine> i dont understand downcutting bits, the chip evacuation in my mind would be a nightmare ?
[16:28:58] <archivist> you dont cut in a blind hole
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[16:29:24] <Tom_itx> some bits have thru bit coolant too
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[16:29:29] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:29:43] <MrSunshine> this is woodworking bits =)
[16:30:10] <Tom_itx> well that's no good then
[16:30:19] <archivist> it forces the sheet downward
[16:30:49] <archivist> you dont want to lift a suction held sheet
[16:32:34] <XXCoder> hey
[16:33:12] <XXCoder> archivist: if its making a blind hole where does wood swarf go
[16:33:34] <archivist> it would not be in a blind hole
[16:34:31] <XXCoder> So it can't be used that way. intersting
[16:36:47] <archivist> in some situations it is better for swarf to go forward, like a machine tap, but there is a version of machine tap to bring the swarf out the rear, it is a choice
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[16:38:50] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Thanks, it's nice seeing the variety there.
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[16:41:37] <XXCoder> heh all my youtubeads is about cnc stuff nowdays
[16:42:04] <XXCoder> youtube ads
[16:42:12] <Tom_itx> watch more pron
[16:42:26] <XXCoder> lol
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[16:50:12] <IchGuckLive> XXCoder: you are the upcomming master of desaster
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[16:57:17] <IchGuckLive> Tom_itx: what is pron
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[17:06:47] <IchGuckLive> hi recon_lap1
[17:06:47] <Jymmm> IchGuckLive: This is CNC pron... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_qHR_H_2cg
[17:07:53] <recon_lap1> hello IchGuckLive.
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[17:08:04] <IchGuckLive> yeah it is deckel Maho Gildemeister DMG alway got good show parts
[17:08:22] <IchGuckLive> recon_lap1: lab is always not a good choice
[17:08:57] <recon_lap1> IchGuckLive: lab?
[17:09:26] <IchGuckLive> nootbook
[17:09:53] <IchGuckLive> recon_lap1: where i the world are you im in germany
[17:11:22] <recon_lap1> IchGuckLive: In Ireland :)
[17:11:36] <IchGuckLive> ah in the europ time zone
[17:11:48] <IchGuckLive> so you already got a runnig cnc
[17:13:33] <recon_lap1> No, Just a 3d printer. Thinking of building a small CNC router. just lurking here to see what I can learn.
[17:13:59] <recon_lap1> and 1/2 way through building a small PCB mill
[17:14:03] <IchGuckLive> 3d printer ready made or home made
[17:14:34] <recon_lap1> I3, parts bough online , mostly off ebay
[17:14:39] <IchGuckLive> recon_lap1: pcb mill only to give you a idee http://foengarage.de/cnc4.jpg
[17:15:17] <IchGuckLive> http://foengarage.de/pcb.jpg milled fr4
[17:17:12] <recon_lap1> lot of expensive looking parts on those PCB mills
[17:17:35] <IchGuckLive> no less then 300EU
[17:17:50] <IchGuckLive> all stuff including proxxon
[17:18:03] <CaptHindsight> recon_lap1: prices depend on your ebay-foo and timing
[17:18:12] <tjtr33> foen = barber?
[17:18:18] <IchGuckLive> the steppers are out of epson laserprinters
[17:18:30] <IchGuckLive> 1 euro eatch
[17:18:49] <IchGuckLive> the board is a tb6560 from our user here at 15usd
[17:19:12] <IchGuckLive> the axis spindles are TR16x4
[17:19:30] <IchGuckLive> for better smoother drining there is a 1:1 timingbelt system
[17:19:48] <IchGuckLive> only LMUU12 in use 20pcs less then 50USD
[17:20:03] <IchGuckLive> from china
[17:20:31] <IchGuckLive> the master 24V 5V from meanwell and a C10 BOB
[17:21:10] <IchGuckLive> some hard pins C54 12mm 2m in toatal and 1m of 30sqare alu
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[17:21:47] <IchGuckLive> tj yea
[17:22:13] <recon_lap1> IchGuckLive: basically a lot of stuff I don't have :) but nice that you got it done so cheap :)
[17:22:21] <tjtr33> haha i went to front page, looks like B-52's! nice
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[17:23:11] <recon_lap1> IchGuckLive: but I'm going with the start small and working up to better, bit by bit.
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[17:23:12] <tjtr33> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SOryJvTAGs
[17:23:22] <IchGuckLive> tjtr33: hit salon on front page
[17:23:29] <tjtr33> bt very nice mill IchGuckLive
[17:24:22] <IchGuckLive> tjtr33: as you know the mill and the lathe hat to fit a standard universety education table
[17:24:31] <IchGuckLive> so no way on sizing
[17:25:22] <recon_lap1> I started on a Cyclone PCB mill reprap build, but think I'll try one of these next http://www.diyouware.com/front
[17:26:27] <IchGuckLive> this realy low level
[17:27:08] <IchGuckLive> home made electronic trivers
[17:27:40] <IchGuckLive> with a blueray laser diod
[17:27:49] <IchGuckLive> on a lm317 driver
[17:28:31] <Jymmm> voltage regualtor?
[17:28:53] <IchGuckLive> yes as a constand Amp source
[17:28:57] <Jymmm> am
[17:28:58] <Jymmm> ah
[17:29:23] <IchGuckLive> based on a 1.25V standard out
[17:29:39] <IchGuckLive> good for red DVD bad on Blue
[17:29:56] <Jymmm> Yeah, I've seen the datasheet with the CC example =)
[17:30:01] <IchGuckLive> it workes but not efficant as you see speed below 300mm/min
[17:30:18] <IchGuckLive> that makes like my DVD on wood in the vids i got on youtube
[17:30:26] <IchGuckLive> with 10USD costs
[17:30:33] <Jymmm> =)
[17:31:12] <IchGuckLive> im off BYE
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[18:22:46] <skunkworks> wow - I don't see anything in that video that linuxcnc couldn'
[18:22:57] <skunkworks> t do
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[18:28:56] <archivist> skunkworks, except the tool table size :(
[18:29:48] <archivist> can we switch kins on the fly ?
[18:30:21] <skunkworks> smop!
[18:30:21] <archivist> or were they cheating by doing it in the cam
[18:30:30] <skunkworks> that could be..
[18:31:42] <archivist> they change from lathe to milling to hobbing with ease
[18:32:31] <archivist> oh and eccentric turning
[18:34:16] <skunkworks> sure - all doable - maybe not as smooth..
[18:35:57] <archivist> DMG do throw chips about at shows
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[19:02:46] <skunkworks> I have started to get this same thing using chrome on 14.04
[19:02:48] <skunkworks> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/544587/outdated-java-plugin-detected-with-linux-mint-and-chrome/\
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[19:10:26] <tjtr33> and often you'd need some other java, like open ibm or oracle (java, write once, and ... try again )
[19:11:10] <tjtr33> some nice apps, heck theres a java front end for linuxcnc by matt shaffer
[19:11:21] <tjtr33> is/was
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[19:15:31] <MrSunshine> http://www.pinterest.com/pin/492862752940915857/
[19:19:14] <CaptHindsight> that's handy, I often get confused between screws and washers :p
[19:20:08] <MrSunshine> :P
[19:22:34] <recon_lap1> skunkworks: it might be the site that is hacked and not your computer
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[19:57:52] <anarchos> Can anyone tell me the terminology for my situation? Using HSMExpress w/ SolidWorks, it's generating GCode that "plunges" all the way into the work piece then cuts like 1" of material at a time
[19:58:08] <anarchos> i need it to do like 2mm at a time, in multiple passes
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[19:58:30] <anarchos> that would be called cut depth, no?
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[20:47:06] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:02:32] <jdh> yes
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[23:47:28] <android14141480> Hello i need a channel for plasma cutter who know it
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