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[00:34:46] <CaptHindsight> is there a way to keep an axis from being jogged manually if another axis is within a set range of travel?
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[00:40:45] <CaptHindsight> this could be like a soft bounding box so that say X can't be jogged unless Z is above a certain height
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[00:43:14] <SpeedEvil> Did crunching noises happen?
[00:44:02] <CaptHindsight> heh, no just came across an application where this might help to prevent user error
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[00:48:00] <CaptHindsight> or an open loop stepper system where one axis dies/locks and you want to prevent a crash
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[01:08:44] <CaptHindsight> maybe ClassicLadder with some extra extra limit/position switches for feedback if something doesn't actually move when commanded
[01:10:12] <XXCoder1> hey
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[06:17:34] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[06:29:31] <anarchos> anyone have a used 5i25 for sale by chance?
[06:42:02] <Jymmm> Yes, $25 + $200 shipping
[06:42:16] <Jymmm> ... per mile
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[06:45:15] <Deejay> moin
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[07:11:27] <anarchos2> lol
[07:11:28] <anarchos2> \
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[08:48:39] <IchGuckLive> hi all Morning europ
[08:49:02] <IchGuckLive> anarchos2: why dont you buy a new one its far cheeper then a used
[08:49:25] <IchGuckLive> anonimasu: ? still on thcud
[08:52:05] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: users are suposed to make errors to test the system stability
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[08:53:02] <IchGuckLive> bonsbonjour JLuc69
[08:53:34] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[08:53:45] <IchGuckLive> bonjour JLuc69_
[08:54:05] <JLuc69_> salut IchGuckLive
[08:54:17] <IchGuckLive> faire fonctionner la machine
[08:54:59] <JLuc69_> non, je ne suis pas retourné dans le garage depuis
[08:55:19] <IchGuckLive> eh bien
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[08:56:08] <IchGuckLive> qui est déjà comme votre anglais
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[08:57:07] <IchGuckLive> demain et dimanche sont 300 Français ici
[08:57:40] <IchGuckLive> Ă errer
[08:58:00] <JLuc69> I am the machine for knowledge, not for production :D
[08:58:24] <IchGuckLive> as you like
[08:58:52] <IchGuckLive> i did build 100 mashines for education
[08:59:12] <IchGuckLive> t give cnc knowledge to students
[08:59:12] <JLuc69> gratz
[08:59:49] <IchGuckLive> ok bye till later
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[09:45:31] <Klaus-Krefeld> good morning ;-)
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[10:04:24] <MrSunshine> hmm a positive helix spiral end mill for cutting mdf, will it mar the top surface or does mdf work with that? =)
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[10:08:39] <JLuc69> a little, take a propeller preferably 0 degrees
[10:14:01] <MrSunshine> ?
[10:15:23] <JLuc69> take a right end mill :p
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[11:11:45] <IchGuckLive> moin klaus
[11:12:04] <IchGuckLive> Klaus-Krefeld: gehts noch O.O
[11:13:18] <syyl_ws> iirc this is a english speaking channel
[11:13:42] <IchGuckLive> agrees on some points
[11:13:43] <Klaus-Krefeld> Hi ja ist alles okay :-)
[11:14:27] <IchGuckLive> MrSunshine: dont forget to go G41 with the tool flow not against the part
[11:14:49] <IchGuckLive> so mdf wiss stay sharp
[11:15:30] <IchGuckLive> like a circular saw cut
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[11:16:18] <IchGuckLive> JLuc69: did you reatch the garage
[11:16:30] <Klaus-Krefeld> I also try to improve diligently my English ;-)
[11:16:56] <IchGuckLive> its for far better then the most german try here
[11:17:20] <Klaus-Krefeld> I hope this was right
[11:18:06] <IchGuckLive> spelling is quite a challange , but meaning is always a guess
[11:18:22] <JLuc69> IchGuckLive, no bad weather
[11:18:56] <IchGuckLive> as here outside the world is going to get dark at noon rain like a monsoon
[11:19:22] <Klaus-Krefeld> ;-)
[11:20:34] <IchGuckLive> im off bye till later
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[12:01:25] <GUI_> hi
[12:01:50] <GUI_> i want to try this chat
[12:02:11] <Tom_itx> seems you have succeeded
[12:02:27] <GUI_> because i build a cnc mill and now i am using linuxcnc
[12:02:31] <GUI_> yes thanks
[12:02:42] <GUI_> sorry for my english
[12:02:50] <GUI_> i hope you understand me
[12:04:51] <GUI_> now iam trying a little bit with axis and i have different problems. but i try to help me by myself. for the first time :-)
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[12:08:45] <GUI_> ok for the first time iam lucky to get access to this chat, so now i go back working on my cnc and will come back later
[12:08:55] <GUI_> cu
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[12:10:12] <archivist> lurk and learn
[12:10:38] <Tom_itx> should have said that quicker...
[12:12:54] <archivist> I only just came inside from door fitting!
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[16:26:14] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:27:29] <Klaus-Krefeld> Hi :-)
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[16:51:04] <IchGuckLive> not many posts tuday
[16:51:15] <IchGuckLive> some courios user
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[17:04:07] <IchGuckLive> hi travalga
[17:04:42] <travalga> servus ich guck live
[17:05:45] <IchGuckLive> travalga:
http://ww3.cad.de/foren/ubb/uploads/Magic33_de/trafalgar_st.jpg
[17:06:03] <IchGuckLive> not realy the same as in london
[17:06:07] <IchGuckLive> but it is
[17:06:55] <travalga> very nise
[17:07:03] <travalga> nice sorry
[17:07:34] <IchGuckLive> are you in the UK
[17:08:12] <travalga> no im a german
[17:08:37] <IchGuckLive> ah ich sitz in kaiserslautern
[17:08:38] <travalga> an my englich is verx possible
[17:09:07] <travalga> fein dann kannst ja sicher auch bayrisch
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[17:11:02] <travalga> hast du eine ahnung von heekscnc?
[17:11:13] <IchGuckLive> coole frage
[17:11:35] <travalga> wieso bin ich dir zu nahe getreten ?
[17:12:04] <IchGuckLive> hit my nick please
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[17:24:46] <ssi> IchGuckLive:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t1.0-9/10592768_10100451415711802_5894906082093122345_n.jpg
[17:24:55] <ssi> IchGuckLive:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10424231_10100451411560122_8360694036607109705_n.jpg?oh=446ef4c1f54d286f0f6a3fb1c9f9eac8&oe=545D7928&__gda__=1417150807_0995d3d5311849279b4477f9e3c3f566
[17:24:59] <ssi> heheh
[17:25:15] <IchGuckLive> you are the hero
[17:30:35] <IchGuckLive> ssi whats the time on that and some size
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[17:37:49] <cpresser> ssi: awesome
[17:39:11] <CaptHindsight> is that real plywood or fauxwood?
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[17:42:44] <IchGuckLive> ssi now you can go x-mas store sellings
[17:50:38] <ssi> IchGuckLive: it's a 6" arc, overall it's about 9" top to bottom, the plate is 8.5"x16" and took 33 minutes to cut at 10ipm
[17:50:43] <ssi> it's made of 3/16" sandeply
[17:51:01] <ssi> I dunno if that qualifies as "fauxwood", but it's made of trees :P
[17:51:29] <ssi> I can likely cut the sandeply quite a bit faster than 10ipm, but I wanted it to cut all the way through reliably
[17:51:34] <ssi> that's with 40W and a 2" focal length
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[17:52:52] <dr0w> the SLAm stepper controllers from piclist.com look like a pretty affordable option, anyone have experiences with these?
[17:53:57] <archivist> url?
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[17:54:20] <dr0w> http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/stepper/SLAm/SLAm_bld.htm
[17:55:08] <archivist> unipolar is a bit silly these days
[17:56:38] <dr0w> from standpoint of more bang for the buck from bipolar steppers?
[17:59:02] <archivist> internally all steppers are almost the same just the internal wiring is different you can wire an 8 wire motor as any of the other types basically
[17:59:13] <CaptHindsight> dr0w: I though you had drivers and cannibalized motors from something
[18:00:41] <dr0w> the MAXNC controller is lackluster in the performance department.
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[18:00:49] <CaptHindsight> dr0w:
http://www.pololu.com/product/1182 and cheap nema17 motors to play with are also around $10 new
[18:01:30] <Tom_itx> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/5pcs-NEMA17-78-Oz-in-CNC-stepper-motor-stepping-motor-1-8A/704350_554160664.html
[18:01:32] <dr0w> man.. though are tiny
[18:01:34] <Tom_itx> or these
[18:02:01] <Tom_itx> those are the strongest NEMA17 i've found so far
[18:07:07] <Loetmichel> *gnah* PC psu smoked off... in the middle of a elite dangerous game ... good that i always have spares... now its a 450W seasonic instead of the 400W "chinese cheapest" ... maybe that lasts a little longer;-)
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[18:12:53] <Jymmm> Seasonic are pretty good, what server did you pull it from =)
[18:13:11] <CaptHindsight> http://www.progressiveautomations.com/ low cost lead screw lighter load positioners
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[18:16:02] <kfoltman> hi Loetmichel
[18:18:32] <kfoltman> Tom_itx: based on specs or in practice?
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[18:22:59] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: we have them at the company
[18:23:12] <Loetmichel> this now running is one that was spare
[18:23:20] <Loetmichel> so i could get it for free
[18:23:25] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Ah, at 450W I suspect a 1U PS =)
[18:23:34] <Loetmichel> no, standard atx
[18:23:57] <Loetmichel> 1u psis are bad for gaming pcs... "whiiine!"
[18:24:09] <Jymmm> lol
[18:24:17] <Loetmichel> thats annoying enough in my cnc box
[18:24:24] <Jymmm> What 15,000 RPM fans are "silent" ;)
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[18:24:51] <kfoltman> Jymmm: water cooled ones?
[18:25:15] <Jymmm> kfoltman: It was a joke, they're 110dBa
[18:25:28] <Jymmm> LOUD AS FUCK!
[18:25:40] <kfoltman> Jymmm: probably as 'silent' as a 15k RPM spindle ;)
[18:25:52] <Jymmm> kfoltman: louder actually
[18:26:03] <kfoltman> ok, 15k dremel ;)
[18:26:06] <Jymmm> because you usually have 4-6 of them running
[18:26:18] * kfoltman wouldn't mind a 6 spindle CNC
[18:26:26] <archivist> I have held a 60k rpm spindle in my hand, amazingly quiet
[18:26:27] <kfoltman> unless those were 6 dremels
[18:26:43] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: tell me... the two(!) 40mm fans in my CNC psu make a BIT of noise at 8000 rom
[18:26:45] <Loetmichel> rom
[18:26:47] <Loetmichel> rpm
[18:27:00] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12250
[18:27:06] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12247
[18:27:11] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12265
[18:27:15] <Loetmichel> thats my CNC pc
[18:27:15] <Jymmm> kfoltman: When I had my server in the datacenter, I knew which cabinet it was in because I could hear it above all the hundreds of others.
[18:27:49] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: my CNC is fairly silent except for the motor whine (when it's not actually doing anything of course, then you have motor sounds + spindle noise)
[18:28:04] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: crap chinese 24V PSU + arduino instead of a PC ;)
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[18:28:11] <Loetmichel> i meant the PC, not the cnc itseld
[18:28:18] <Loetmichel> itself
[18:28:27] <Loetmichel> the machine is very wuiet, too
[18:28:30] <Loetmichel> quiet
[18:29:01] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: well, arduino replaces the PC, so it's even quieter ;)
[18:29:07] <kfoltman> no cooling required
[18:29:13] <kfoltman> of course, the g-code implementation is very limited
[18:29:19] <Loetmichel> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Ov69t0uwo
[18:29:39] <Loetmichel> so, kfoltman: you are not using linuxCNC?
[18:29:44] <Loetmichel> why here then?
[18:29:52] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: I plan to, at some point
[18:30:02] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: I even have beaglebone set up for that
[18:30:03] <Loetmichel> btw: anyone tried to run linuxCNC on a raspberry?
[18:30:16] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: with machinekit and network etc.
[18:30:40] <kfoltman> Loetmichel: will have to mill a cape though, and find the UI that doesn't stink
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[18:38:55] <Klaus-Krefeld> bye ;-) have a nice Weekend :-)
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[18:51:11] <Jymmm> This is a gut hook that's also used as a SAFETY "rescue knife" used to cut line, cord, webbing, etc.
http://www.blasterstool.com/images/products/detail/Gerber%20Hook%20Ceramic%20Blade%201.jpg
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[18:52:07] <Jymmm> It used drywall blades, but the issue is reports have that it breaks at/near the screwhole. or at the neck.
[18:53:17] <Jymmm> I really dont have metal working capacilities (per se), but can anyone think of a way to recreate this so that it's durable in a rescue situation?
[18:53:46] <Jymmm> I'd also like to add some sort of "anvil" it as all possible
[18:54:34] <Jymmm> as the "sliding" action isn't as effective as a guiltine actine would be
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[18:56:08] <Jymmm> action*
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[22:49:40] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, change the blade angle and thicken the webbing inside the plastic housing
[22:50:37] <Tom_itx> make it from carbon fiber?
[22:51:30] <anarchos2> where can i find the last release of EMC that was under public domain?
[22:51:37] <Jymmm> Can't really change the angle too much. I was considering CF, but the sample I saw did twist a bit under force.
[22:51:52] <Tom_itx> anarchos2 you mean the GOVT ver?
[22:51:52] <Jymmm> anarchos2: nist.gov
[22:52:02] <Tom_itx> ^^
[22:53:23] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: If I could find a material I could cut n the laser, then layer together (like a transformer or master padlock) that would work
[22:53:45] <anarchos2> was there much development after the government released the source into the public domain before the switch to GPL?
[22:53:53] <Tom_itx> i could take a pic of a letter opener of similar design with a different blade angle
[22:54:17] <CaptHindsight> anarchos2: try asking on the mail list
[22:54:26] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: This has to be able to cut instantly rope and webbing from 1/4" to 3/4" thick
[22:55:02] <Tom_itx> US Pat Design #DES. 421889
[22:55:32] <Tom_itx> well i'm saying the angle is wrong
[22:55:45] <Jymmm> how so?
[22:55:55] <Jymmm> Yes that is for gutting game
[22:56:12] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: sewing mahine?
[22:56:22] <Tom_itx> ?
[22:56:23] <Jymmm> http://www.google.com/patents/US421889
[22:56:50] <Tom_itx> no, it's some cheap letter opener handout
[22:57:09] <Jymmm> Oh, those credit card sized ones
[22:57:22] <Tom_itx> yeah
[22:57:40] <Jymmm> http://www.oneinhundred.com/upfiles/upimg1/Letter-opener-in-100--US-corn--4995401.jpg
[22:57:59] <Tom_itx> quite similar yes
[22:58:00] <Jymmm> Ok, I see what ou're saying
[22:58:09] <Tom_itx> the blade is layed back more
[22:58:23] <Tom_itx> so it shears along the blade as it enters
[22:58:42] <Jymmm> Right, but those have a very narrow path (finger safety), and won't do 1/2" diameter line
[22:59:41] <Jymmm> If possible, I could even add a anvil and plier type action
[22:59:51] <Jymmm> hang on let me find pic
[23:00:18] <Tom_itx> stuff a motor inside with a round blade on an angle drive
[23:00:30] <Jymmm> haha
[23:01:16] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: shaped charge
[23:01:26] <Jymmm> something like this sorta
http://profibarkacs.hu/shop_ordered/3767/pic/4197000.jpg
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[23:01:39] <Jymmm> a hybrid of the two
[23:01:55] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: polymer ropes?
[23:02:03] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: yes
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[23:02:13] <SpeedEvil> Bolt-cutters with sharpened blades would do it
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[23:02:33] <SpeedEvil> I should read backscroll
[23:02:52] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: like cutting line off persons; so cant' cut a person
[23:02:55] <SpeedEvil> By 'sharpened' - i just mean to a rough point, not actually sharp
[23:03:01] <SpeedEvil> ah
[23:03:03] <Jymmm> http://media1.rsdelivers.cataloguesolutions.com/MediumProductImages/R405329-91.jpg This is what I have and works GREAT
[23:03:11] <SpeedEvil> So it's for bondage that's gone wrong/
[23:03:18] <SpeedEvil> you're employed at a sex-dungeon?
[23:03:26] <Tom_itx> what did the mafia use to sever fingers... that would also work.
[23:03:55] <Jymmm> hahah, yeah, and rescue, or climbers, or anyoen else that is around lines
[23:04:02] <SpeedEvil> more seriously - heated cutters are used for this too
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[23:04:08] <Tom_itx> the flat blad won't work as good
[23:04:13] <Tom_itx> blade*
[23:04:24] <Jymmm> the flat blade against an anvil works perfect
[23:04:32] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: this is for a standalone hand-tool without power?
[23:04:33] <Tom_itx> i have one
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[23:04:45] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: yes, like EMT's, etc
[23:05:10] <SpeedEvil> Jymmm: i'd wonder if you could find a flat anvil type geared seccateur
[23:05:23] <Jymmm> geared what?
[23:05:37] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-Pruner-Pruning-Secateurs-Shears-Garden-Plants-Cutter-/321101422685?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item4ac322e05d
[23:05:38] <Tom_itx> pvc pipe cutter
[23:05:40] <SpeedEvil> - not this type
[23:06:14] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PRECISION-8-BRASS-ANVIL-GARDEN-SECATEURS-PRUNING-SHEARS-SK5-STEEL-NON-STICK-/141352993662?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item20e94b837e
[23:06:32] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: Ah, I tried the ones you are thinking of last night, Tey made #7 on the list of 11
[23:06:37] <SpeedEvil> There are 'pump' geared ones
[23:06:52] <SpeedEvil> For people with weaker hands or bigger twigs
[23:07:20] <Jymmm> What I'm saying with the drywall balde and an avil, no pumping, sawing, chewing is needed. it cuts instantly and every strand too
[23:08:10] <SpeedEvil> well, in that case, a sharp seccateur of the above sort should work fine
[23:08:16] <Tom_itx> http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/plumbing/plumbing-tools/pipe-tube-cutters/gre-864-pvc-cutter-1-14?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=CjwKEAjw37afBRDO5M3h0qvj9zQSJACvwnOJLIhkjZANoc9HlZk2_mMyBf6rMIbJcTe2iYhmrVrOFxoCxE3w_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
[23:08:52] <SpeedEvil> That does not have a hard anvil
[23:09:01] <Tom_itx> no
[23:09:17] <SpeedEvil> it may cut most of the rope, but a substantial amount will be pressed into the groove, and not cut
[23:09:54] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SPEAR-AND-JACKSON-MEDIUM-ANVIL-SECATEURS-RAZORSHARP-ANVILL-SECATEURS-/131246408382?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item1e8ee542be - even with a nice safety
[23:10:04] <Jymmm> I tink if I get the right angle, I could make a tapered and the back side be fixed anvil, and the sliding motion be the cutting action
[23:10:35] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: I'd like to see those opn
[23:12:26] <SpeedEvil> I suspect a good pair of boltcutters will work just fine
[23:12:33] <SpeedEvil> And be flexible for other stuff
[23:12:37] <Jymmm> lol
[23:20:06] <Jymmm> I can see a rock climber 200fr up on a cliff side with a pair of 36" bolt cutters hanging off their belt =)
[23:20:13] <Jymmm> 200 feet
[23:21:07] <SpeedEvil> 18" 'd be fine
[23:21:22] <Jymmm> lol
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