#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-08-07

Back
[00:03:46] -!- asdfasd has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[00:09:49] <ssi> Tom_itx: MS is so out of touch :P
[00:09:58] <XXCoder1> heys
[00:10:13] <XXCoder1> goodnight file_not_found
[00:13:50] -!- chally__ [chally__!~chally@host-126-184.dhcp.pdx.edu] has joined #linuxcnc
[00:14:16] -!- Tecan has quit [Quit: Live Long And Phosphor!]
[00:17:58] -!- chally_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[00:18:50] -!- asah [asah!~asah@c-69-181-176-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[00:19:52] -!- rob_h has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[00:21:32] -!- syyl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[00:50:16] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[00:54:06] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[00:55:00] -!- patricka_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[00:59:52] -!- Atroxide has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[01:02:08] <asah> anyone who has setup an 8i20, how are you doing the current scaling?
[01:02:25] <asah> using current-scalemax 1.0 ?
[01:04:04] -!- swingley has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[01:04:07] -!- Tecan [Tecan!~fasdf@ip-216-234-182-80.wireless.tera-byte.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[01:04:07] -!- Tecan has quit [Changing host]
[01:04:07] -!- Tecan [Tecan!~fasdf@unaffiliated/unit41] has joined #linuxcnc
[01:04:45] amnesic is now known as amnesic_away
[01:11:06] -!- PetefromTn_ has quit [Quit: I'm Outta here!!]
[01:20:59] -!- anarchos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[01:21:40] -!- PetefromTn_ [PetefromTn_!~IceChat9@75-136-62-206.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[01:27:18] -!- anarchos_ [anarchos_!~mike@S010600259ce59399.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[01:28:34] -!- sumpfralle has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[01:54:53] -!- dgarr has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds]
[02:08:37] -!- dgarr [dgarr!~dgarrett@174-26-241-11.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[02:40:31] -!- tjtr33 [tjtr33!~tjtr33@76-216-190-185.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[02:41:32] <skunkworks_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BMjwQSDb4g
[02:46:35] <cradek> that's my machine but with a sweet little dual rotary
[02:48:08] -!- jbr has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[02:48:36] <skunkworks_> don't you have one yet?
[02:48:36] -!- thealch3_ has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
[02:49:23] <cradek> you know the last thing my vmc did? drilled holes.
[02:49:40] <cradek> easier to use it than change the belts on the drill press
[02:49:47] <cradek> I don't need 5 axis :-)
[02:50:04] <skunkworks_> heh - that is what the last thing the k&t did... (and I tried to rigid tap but didn't have a sharp enough one..)
[02:50:38] <XXCoder1> had lots cnc fun today lol 138 parts and only 20 seconds cut time
[02:50:54] <XXCoder1> so I was constantly swapping parts and deburring part while its cutting
[02:52:47] <skunkworks_> keeps you hopping
[02:52:58] <XXCoder1> yeah
[02:56:06] <cradek> that's only an hour's work!
[02:56:29] <XXCoder1> lol
[02:56:57] <XXCoder1> yeah assuming I magically swap parts instantly
[03:04:49] -!- PetefromTn_ has quit [Quit: I'm Outta here!!]
[03:04:50] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[03:06:32] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[03:10:42] <Tom_itx> run 2 fixtures
[03:11:56] <Tom_itx> i've seen cases where they're tabbed together in a cluster too and break apart like plastic moulded parts
[03:12:10] <Tom_itx> so you run 6 or so at a time
[03:12:16] -!- tk84916 [tk84916!6ccf2636@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.207.38.54] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:12:23] <Tom_itx> just depends what it is
[03:12:27] <XXCoder1> tom its complex jig
[03:12:37] <XXCoder1> takes me minute just to place part in jig
[03:12:37] <Tom_itx> ^^
[03:12:44] -!- Tecan has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[03:12:58] <XXCoder1> plus another minute to clean cnc area so it dont get out of aligiment due to some swarf
[03:13:32] <XXCoder1> also its quite large, being airplane door protector thing, its 6 inches tall, 4 inches wide 1 1/2 in "thick"
[03:13:37] <Tom_itx> my plastic boxes were kinda that way
[03:13:49] <Tom_itx> turn 3 times in the vise
[03:15:36] <tk84916> Hello all, I am working on a retrofit mill, using Mesa 5i23 and 7i49 with resolvers, we are trying to enable all 6 ports on the 7i49, according to hal config in linuxcnc it has only 3 resolver, am I missing a simple edit in the hal file to enable the other three?
[03:15:39] <Tom_itx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CEqokrtFI4&feature=youtu.be
[03:15:48] <XXCoder1> interesting. this one does one part a time. first the hole then side holes, 10 of em on side (it drills deep enough to hole both sides)
[03:17:09] <dgarr> http://imgur.com/r/damnthatsinteresting/Z5fOZAP
[03:17:22] <cradek> tk84916: possibly; it would be the loadrt hm2_pci line. See the hm2_pci and hostmot2 manpages.
[03:17:24] <XXCoder1> damn
[03:17:29] <XXCoder1> thats good animation
[03:17:41] -!- malcom2073 has quit [Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
[03:17:43] <XXCoder1> its faceoff
[03:18:18] <Tom_itx> or high speed photography
[03:19:09] <Tom_itx> you wouldn't wanna screw up. it'd cost a fortune to replace all the cutters
[03:19:32] <Tom_itx> we ran some 5" shell mills like that
[03:20:11] -!- sylphiae [sylphiae!~sylphiae@99-7-4-250.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:20:12] -!- somenewguy [somenewguy!~butts@pool-108-7-223-206.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:20:15] <Tom_itx> i watched a mori spitting off steel like that coming off white hot too. running dry
[03:20:23] <skunkworks_> tk84916: there should be a config line that reads something like num_resolvers=3 or something like that..
[03:20:45] <skunkworks_> either in the ini or hal file
[03:22:10] <skunkworks_> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.6/html/man/man9/hostmot2.9.html
[03:22:15] <skunkworks_> and what cradek said..
[03:22:18] <skunkworks_> missed that
[03:23:35] <tk84916> thanks skunkworks_ and +cradex, I missed it in the ini file. It loaded up and showed all 6 on the card. I had read the wiki on the hostmot2.9 and was getting errors on boot when I tired to set the parameter for it. Changined the count in the ini file worked. Thanks
[03:24:01] <cradek> now ask us a hard one
[03:24:42] -!- Tecan [Tecan!~fasdf@ip-216-234-182-80.wireless.tera-byte.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:24:42] -!- Tecan has quit [Changing host]
[03:24:42] -!- Tecan [Tecan!~fasdf@unaffiliated/unit41] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:28:58] -!- Thetawaves has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[03:32:49] -!- Thetawaves [Thetawaves!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:33:07] -!- Thetawaves has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[03:33:17] -!- Thetawaves [Thetawaves!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:33:40] -!- hm2-buildmaster has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[03:33:40] -!- linuxcnc-build has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[03:44:00] -!- swingley_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[03:46:00] -!- mejackreed has quit [Client Quit]
[03:47:49] -!- thealch3m1st [thealch3m1st!~thealch3m@cpe-76-172-31-62.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[03:52:42] <Tom_itx> i'm a little confused which branch to download... i'm using the wheezy iso but i wanted to download the source from buildbot. it shows wheezy as sim only so should i get lucid instead?
[03:53:00] <Tom_itx> 2.6 branch
[03:53:20] <Tom_itx> or master...
[03:54:03] -!- Thetawaves has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[03:56:13] -!- tk84916 has quit [Quit: Page closed]
[03:58:44] -!- dgarr has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[04:16:14] -!- anth0ny has quit [Quit: anth0ny]
[04:23:46] -!- Thetawaves [Thetawaves!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:25:14] -!- Thetawaves_ [Thetawaves_!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:25:56] -!- toastyde2th [toastyde2th!~toast@c-69-244-86-195.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:26:40] -!- _1SheYode [_1SheYode!~ah@bzq-84-110-215-246.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:27:29] -!- zzolo has quit [Quit: zzolo]
[04:28:19] -!- Thetawaves has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[04:28:30] -!- FinboySlick has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[04:30:36] -!- BlaDe^ has quit [Disconnected by services]
[04:30:44] -!- sivu_ [sivu_!sivu@tyhma.paeae.fi] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:34:34] -!- MarkusBec_ [MarkusBec_!znc@ist.deswahnsinns.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:35:38] -!- KimK has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:35:42] -!- gambakufu has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:35:44] -!- zeitue has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:35:47] -!- liedman has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:35:47] -!- Swapper_ has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:35:48] -!- toastyde1th has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:35:48] -!- Tom_itx has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:36:01] -!- SkramX has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:36:10] -!- sivu has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:36:10] -!- darthrake has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:36:14] -!- MarkusBec has quit [*.net *.split]
[04:36:19] MarkusBec_ is now known as MarkusBec
[04:37:46] -!- tjtr33 has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[04:39:20] SkramX__ is now known as SkramX
[04:40:10] -!- Valen has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[04:41:30] -!- KimK [KimK!~Kim__@ip68-102-30-143.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:42:42] -!- zeitue [zeitue!~z@67.221.138.167] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:43:08] -!- Thetawaves_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[04:53:01] -!- knownasilya has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
[04:53:34] <asah> yay, got my mill a little more under control. was geting runaways.
[04:53:47] <asah> a fun and exciting way to start tuning.
[04:54:46] -!- Thetawaves [Thetawaves!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[04:55:05] <asah> I don’t have an amp disable pin so when I got any following errors, the amps would not shut off and my pid would accumulate error and start full speed trucking.
[04:55:20] <asah> one hand on the estop the whole way.
[04:55:52] <asah> but my y axis is behaving a bit more now and running ptp moves.
[04:56:02] <asah> only two more axes to go!
[05:02:33] -!- Fox_Muldr has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[05:04:46] -!- Fox_Muldr [Fox_Muldr!quakeman@frnk-4d011585.pool.mediaways.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[05:08:30] -!- hm2-buildmaster has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[05:08:31] -!- linuxcnc-build has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[05:24:40] -!- jj2 [jj2!~jj@124.117.230.137] has joined #linuxcnc
[05:26:20] -!- jj2 has quit [Quit: WeeChat 0.4.3]
[05:35:45] -!- gonzo_ has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[05:43:12] -!- zeitue has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[05:53:02] -!- sylphiae has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[05:56:49] -!- larryone has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
[06:04:10] -!- Tecan has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[06:09:54] -!- larryone has quit [Client Quit]
[06:15:00] -!- thomaslindstr_m has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[06:24:52] -!- zeitue [zeitue!~z@67.221.138.167] has joined #linuxcnc
[06:25:04] -!- Tom_itx [Tom_itx!~Tl@unaffiliated/toml/x-013812] has joined #linuxcnc
[06:34:36] -!- anarchos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[06:35:44] -!- anarchos_ [anarchos_!~mike@S010600259ce59399.vn.shawcable.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[06:39:40] -!- dan2k3k4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[06:47:27] -!- ve7it has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[06:48:32] -!- Deejay [Deejay!~Deejay@unaffiliated/dj9dj] has joined #linuxcnc
[06:48:55] <Deejay> moin
[06:49:14] <Jymmm> Deejay: You're Early.... and FIRED!
[06:49:43] <Deejay> yeah yeah... .oO(yalla yalla yalla..) *G*
[06:49:52] <Jymmm> lol
[06:50:06] <Deejay> ^^
[06:50:20] <Deejay> how are you? everything fine?
[06:52:10] * Deejay still feels sleepy
[06:55:44] -!- The_Ball has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[07:00:05] <Jymmm> Pretty good, same old shit =)
[07:00:12] <Deejay> hehe
[07:00:34] <Jymmm> Chaos as usual
[07:00:46] <Deejay> :D
[07:03:50] -!- Swapper [Swapper!~swapper@81-229-58-225-no121.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[07:15:16] -!- XXCoder1 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[07:25:32] -!- rob_h [rob_h!~robh@90.217.27.142] has joined #linuxcnc
[07:28:12] -!- asah has quit [Quit: asah]
[07:56:42] -!- balestrino [balestrino!~balestrin@131.114.31.66] has joined #linuxcnc
[07:59:36] -!- eeriegeek has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[08:05:21] -!- amiri has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[08:11:39] -!- asdfasd [asdfasd!~332332@90.197.53.255] has joined #linuxcnc
[08:13:10] -!- b_b has quit [Changing host]
[08:16:16] -!- Thetawaves has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
[08:19:03] -!- balestrino has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[08:19:27] -!- toxx has quit []
[08:21:47] -!- toxx [toxx!~cnc-guy@v3-1260.vlinux.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[08:22:20] -!- skunkworks_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[08:22:53] -!- skunkworks_ [skunkworks_!~chatzilla@str-broadband-ccmts-ws-26.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[08:30:33] -!- Thetawaves [Thetawaves!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[08:31:59] -!- MrSunshine [MrSunshine!~mrsun@c83-254-104-178.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #linuxcnc
[08:36:12] -!- dan2k3k4 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[08:43:48] -!- micges [micges!~captain_p@aebg245.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #linuxcnc
[08:43:50] -!- micges [micges!~captain_p@aebg245.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has parted #linuxcnc
[08:53:38] -!- micges has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[09:02:04] -!- Valen [Valen!~Valen@c211-30-128-202.blktn6.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:18:01] -!- syyl_ [syyl_!~sg@p4FD11E13.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:33:10] -!- alex_joni has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[09:34:42] -!- The_Ball [The_Ball!~ballen@c114-77-179-73.hillc3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:39:21] -!- alex_joni [alex_joni!~alex_joni@emc/board-of-directors/alexjoni] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:39:21] -!- mode/#linuxcnc [+v alex_joni] by ChanServ
[09:44:22] -!- alex_joni has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[09:45:36] -!- ashcan_ [ashcan_!~robert@navsoft.plus.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:46:11] -!- alex_joni [alex_joni!~alex_joni@emc/board-of-directors/alexjoni] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:46:11] -!- mode/#linuxcnc [+v alex_joni] by ChanServ
[09:47:15] -!- micges [micges!~captain_p@aebg245.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:50:22] -!- ashcan_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[09:51:32] -!- micges [micges!~captain_p@aebg245.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has parted #linuxcnc
[09:51:46] -!- ashcan_ [ashcan_!~robert@navsoft.plus.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[09:53:21] -!- ashcan_ has quit [Client Quit]
[10:14:08] -!- Thetawaves has quit [Quit: This computer has gone to sleep]
[10:14:39] -!- dan2k3k4 has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
[10:24:01] -!- thealch3m1st has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
[10:30:36] -!- skunkworks_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[11:09:42] -!- sylphiae [sylphiae!~sylphiae@99-7-4-250.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[11:12:36] -!- skunkworks [skunkworks!~skunkwork@68-115-41-210.static.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[11:31:49] <jthornton> sfc helped me again yesterday to pick a drill bit that gave me 60% thread instead of the normal 75% after breaking a tap in 7075
[11:32:52] <jthornton> the tap probably broke because I didn't check it for wear before use but I only had a cheap spiral flute left so less threads is better
[11:33:03] <jthornton> less thread depth
[11:33:30] <archivist_herron> I hate less depth stripping :(
[11:35:03] <jthornton> these have 200% thread engagement so no worries there
[11:40:44] <jthornton> I hate breaking taps off in parts... I guess getting a little in a hurry and not looking at the tap under the microscope is not a good plan after all
[11:42:41] <skunkworks> I broke a tap the other day in some crappy hard material.. Dad drilled it out with a carbide bit.
[11:46:29] <jthornton> I could mill it out with a carbide end mill I guess
[11:50:03] <archivist_herron> diamond bit in a dremel and grind it out or take to a local EDM shop for them to blast it out
[11:50:53] <archivist_herron> costs me a tenner for an EDM rescue
[11:52:17] <Tom_itx> what material were you tapping?
[11:52:27] <jthornton> 7075
[11:52:40] <jthornton> that part ain't worth too much effort
[11:53:03] <Tom_itx> trike parts?
[11:53:47] <jthornton> parts nest for cam tab grinder
[11:55:00] <Tom_itx> nothing quite like cleaning out the grease trap at 6am...
[11:55:30] <Tom_itx> that'll get you off to a good start any day
[11:56:12] <jthornton> yuck
[11:56:35] <Tom_itx> i did plan ahead though so it wasn't quite as bad as it sounds
[12:04:30] -!- The_Ball has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[12:12:15] -!- syyl_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
[12:14:44] -!- scooty_puff has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[12:15:57] -!- GargantuaSauce has quit [Read error: No route to host]
[12:16:01] -!- GargantuaSauce_ [GargantuaSauce_!~sauce@blk-199-255-218-99.eastlink.ca] has joined #linuxcnc
[12:27:28] -!- ktchk [ktchk!~eddie6929@n219073006035.netvigator.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[12:28:46] <jdh> I don't believe you.
[12:34:47] -!- ktchk has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[12:35:46] <Tom_itx> cleanout http://tom-itx.ddns01.com:81/~webpage/temp/house/drain1.jpg
[12:35:54] <Tom_itx> pipe to go in cleanout http://tom-itx.ddns01.com:81/~webpage/temp/pipe/pipe1.jpg
[12:39:07] <jdh> is this common?
[12:40:02] -!- PetefromTn_ [PetefromTn_!~IceChat9@75-136-62-206.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[12:41:01] -!- XXCoder1 [XXCoder1!~XXCoder@c-24-19-85-77.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[12:41:23] <archivist> common, a google images search for fat berg ttp://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en-GB&q=fat+berg&gbv=2&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ei=yXPjU5n4K6Wf7AbbxYHIDA&ved=0CCAQsAQ
[12:43:46] -!- spatialbrew has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[12:45:52] -!- terabyte- [terabyte-!~terabyte@c-76-18-21-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[12:46:50] <jdh> that's pretty nasty
[12:48:21] <archivist> there have been some documentaries on TV showing the fun, iirc the biggest is in Brazil
[12:50:30] <JT-Shop> geez it's not even 8am and I'm making parts
[12:51:07] <jdh> I'm turning the wheels of industry, supporting quality US manufacturing.
[12:51:35] <jdh> that didn't really sound as pithy as I had planned
[12:51:43] <PetefromTn_> damn you got me beat. I have just turned on the machine here
[12:51:57] <JT-Shop> I support US manufacturing as well
[12:52:11] <archivist> time for a sammich and made nothing this week
[12:52:31] * jdh gives JT a resounding thumbs-up to a fellow manufacturer.
[12:53:43] <archivist> all I get a requests for quotes, I think people expect china mass produced prices for one offs
[12:53:46] <jdh> people here keep pushing for incentives for the film industry... but the film jobs are mostly spotty and non-consistent
[12:54:23] <jdh> then they whine that all the shows will move to other places with film incentives.... vs. manufacturing jobs that last.
[12:56:06] <SpeedEvil> Well - 'manufacturing jobs' - today are increasingly three guys and a bank of machines.
[12:56:30] <PetefromTn_> or one guy and a machine he built in his garage shop ;)
[12:56:32] <jdh> that's better than 2 weeks shooting a tv episode then 4 weeks of unemployment
[12:56:32] <SpeedEvil> Which doesn't really help with jobs hugely either. (though does great things for balance of trade)
[12:57:26] <SpeedEvil> The people celebrating factories coming back to the US - some of them seemingly expecting that there'll be thousands turning up every day full-time, when in reality it's a pile of robots.
[12:58:10] <SpeedEvil> Scary shit coming in the next few years, when many shipping/retail/driving jobs get automated.
[12:58:10] <cpresser> but you do need a lot of engineers to set the robots up and keep them running
[12:58:15] <SpeedEvil> Sure.
[12:58:39] <cpresser> ist just unfortunately if you are no engineer :)
[12:58:45] <Jymmm> cpresser: Dial-a-indian-engineer =)
[12:58:46] <SpeedEvil> Which is great for those people - but the people who used to run the machines aren't going to get those jobs.
[12:58:52] <SpeedEvil> That too.
[12:59:55] <jdh> better than being a strictly service economy
[13:01:30] <Jymmm> It's really difficult to 'Made in the USA' at $10/lb for the raw materials, when you can get the raw materials, fabricated, printed, and packaged verseas at $6/lb
[13:02:06] <Jymmm> or less
[13:02:10] <PetefromTn_> BS
[13:04:54] <Jymmm> PetefromTn_: Fine, find me just the raw materials for under $10/lb... 302 FH 0.010" 12" x 24" @ 100lbs worth
[13:06:18] -!- somenewguy has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[13:07:12] <jdh> first, you need 100 tons worth, then you need to relax your material spec, then you need to get subsidized shipping/etc from the govt.
[13:07:40] <Jymmm> lol
[13:12:46] <Jymmm> I was getting plastic extruding quotes... One gave 300-600 for the die, another for the exact same die gave $2200-$3600. When I asked why such difference, he said "That's just what the industry charges". Both were to be fab'ed via EDM too. VERY simple profile.
[13:15:51] <Jymmm> The difficult thing is, if one company starts great, then begins to produce shitty results. You can't just take the die and go elsewhere, you have to have a new die that fits their machine made. So basically you are locked in to that mfr.
[13:18:07] -!- dan2k3k4 has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[13:19:47] <Jymmm> Can EDM be used on 0.010" SS with clean edges, or will it warp it?
[13:20:04] <archivist> wire edm
[13:20:23] <Jymmm> ?
[13:22:09] -!- FinboySlick [FinboySlick!~shark@74.117.40.10] has joined #linuxcnc
[13:22:17] -!- md-2 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[13:23:52] <Jymmm> archivist: Can wire edm be used to cut a closed hole in SS ?
[13:24:17] <JT-Shop> gotta start with a hole or an edge for wire EDM
[13:24:24] <PetefromTn_> most of the modern Wire edm machines have piercing mechanisms.
[13:24:29] <archivist> it can but the machine needs auto koad of the wire
[13:24:32] <archivist> load
[13:24:52] <PetefromTn_> they can then auto feed the wire.
[13:25:09] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBueWfzb7P0
[13:25:11] <PetefromTn_> The shop I worked in had three of four machines that had this ability.
[13:27:17] -!- md-2 has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[13:27:28] * JT-Shop has only seen old wire EDM's
[13:27:56] <JT-Shop> Jymmm, seems laser would be better on thin ss
[13:28:04] <Jymmm> That video mentions something called "smal l hole edm" too
[13:28:31] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: They say at 0.010 it can/will warp the SS
[13:36:27] -!- lucashodge has quit [Client Quit]
[13:39:23] <Jymmm> Hmmm, "Smal Hole EDM" uses a rod instead of a wire.
[13:39:40] <`Nerobro> "sinker" EDM
[13:39:44] <`Nerobro> is the other term for it.
[13:39:48] <Jymmm> ah
[13:40:05] <`Nerobro> You can use it to make square bottom holes.
[13:40:06] <Loetmichel> sinker edm is easy
[13:40:26] <`Nerobro> Yeah, you use a current shunt to determine if you should feed the stepper
[13:40:27] <`Nerobro> ;-)
[13:40:57] <Loetmichel> a copper rod/pipe of fitting diameter, a stepper motor with a linear axis, a drill to let the pipe rotate, a transformer, resistor, some caps-> done ;-)
[13:41:15] * SpeedEvil wishes he could get some dispersion hardened copper cheap
[13:41:26] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FfNPkqDOqd4#t=282
[13:45:02] <Jymmm> Small Hole EDM https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FfNPkqDOqd4#t=478
[13:46:51] <SpeedEvil> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152582284683518 - this is not quite on topic - but very cool.
[13:46:56] <SpeedEvil> Well - for a hot thing
[13:47:26] <Jymmm> It's FB, not that cool.
[13:48:40] <Jymmm> and was added to ABP long ago =)
[13:48:50] <SpeedEvil> abp?
[13:48:59] <Jymmm> AdBlock Plus
[13:49:02] <jdh> alt.binaries.PRON
[13:50:02] -!- ktchk [ktchk!~eddie6929@n219073006035.netvigator.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[13:54:30] <CaptHindsight> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaeEn1Gs4aQ educational videos are better when the instructor shouts
[13:57:57] -!- sylphiae has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
[13:58:27] <SpeedEvil> Why EDM?
[13:58:32] <SpeedEvil> Why not EDM is the question.
[14:01:39] -!- jbr has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]]
[14:02:52] -!- malcom2073 [malcom2073!~quassel@unaffiliated/malcom2073] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:03:15] <Jymmm> "Complete EDM Handbook" of course in multiple PDF files <rolls eyes> http://reliableedm.com/Complete-EDM-Handbook.php
[14:04:57] * SpeedEvil wonders how he can incorporate wire-EDM into his new plywood CNC.
[14:05:05] <SpeedEvil> I think first step is probably to paint it.
[14:05:37] <Jymmm> ...with gasoline, then fire it up!
[14:05:40] -!- ravenlock [ravenlock!~ravenlock@enlightenment/developer/ravenlock] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:05:56] <SpeedEvil> Gasoline does IIRC work as a wire-EDM fluid
[14:06:39] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: Prove it, we want video!!! =)
[14:10:10] -!- ravenlock has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[14:11:20] <JT-Shop> wow it is only going to cost me $1000 to fill both propane tanks
[14:11:48] <JT-Shop> last winter it would have cost $3000
[14:12:03] <jdh> mine costs $12/each
[14:12:14] <jdh> I hope yours are bigger!
[14:13:56] -!- dimas [dimas!~dimas@37.28.185.20] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:14:05] -!- quiqua has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[14:14:54] -!- CaptHindsight has quit [Quit: gone]
[14:15:16] <JT-Shop> one 500 gallon and one 330 gallon
[14:16:58] <jdh> cooking meth?
[14:17:06] <JT-Shop> the small one is empty and the big one has 10%
[14:17:11] -!- CaptHindsight [CaptHindsight!~2020@unaffiliated/capthindsight] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:17:16] <JT-Shop> keeping my ass warm in winter
[14:17:43] <JT-Shop> and making my wife happy and warm
[14:19:38] -!- ravenlock [ravenlock!~ravenlock@enlightenment/developer/ravenlock] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:20:33] -!- sirdancealot has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[14:21:33] -!- sudobangbang has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[14:26:32] -!- quiqua has quit [Quit: quiqua]
[14:33:38] -!- Nick001-shop [Nick001-shop!~chatzilla@50-32-101-218.adr01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:33:49] -!- Swapper has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[14:39:12] -!- ries_nicked [ries_nicked!~ries@D979EA84.cm-3-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:41:52] -!- ries has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[14:41:52] ries_nicked is now known as ries
[14:42:36] -!- ravenlock has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[14:43:28] -!- Atroxide_ has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[14:44:03] -!- ktchk [ktchk!~eddie6929@n219073006035.netvigator.com] has parted #linuxcnc
[14:47:11] -!- Valen has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[14:47:54] -!- kwallace has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[14:54:10] -!- PetefromTn_ has quit [Quit: I'm Outta here!!]
[14:57:56] -!- Benjamin23 [Benjamin23!~Thunderbi@121.sub-174-251-1.myvzw.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[14:58:56] -!- kwallace2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[15:01:29] -!- Thetawaves [Thetawaves!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:01:51] -!- Thetawaves has quit [Client Quit]
[15:03:09] -!- Thetawaves [Thetawaves!~Thetawave@186-51-178-69.gci.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:03:35] -!- JesusAlos [JesusAlos!~chatzilla@77.253.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:03:38] <JesusAlos> hi
[15:05:58] -!- larryone has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[15:10:33] <JesusAlos> I still with realtime problems
[15:10:35] <JesusAlos> http://postimg.org/image/soa0r2kmd/
[15:10:45] <JesusAlos> I think my configuration is ok
[15:10:58] <JesusAlos> but appear the realtime delay error
[15:12:21] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: raise the min base period until the problem goes away
[15:12:48] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[15:13:14] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:13:25] <JesusAlos> yes but need increase a lott
[15:13:37] <JesusAlos> and my machine only go to 4m/min
[15:13:54] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: run the latency test for a longer time, run firefox and watch some youtube videos, plug in a and mount a flash drive
[15:14:58] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: some motherboard, cpu, BIOS combinations don't have very low latency
[15:16:30] -!- anth0ny has quit [Quit: anth0ny]
[15:16:30] <CaptHindsight> you have to try all the best settings in BIOS by turning off all power management, speed stepping, virtual machines, etc
[15:16:32] <JesusAlos> CaptHindsight: I put htop for 13 hours
[15:16:49] <JesusAlos> the result was 10954 base treath
[15:17:23] <JesusAlos> you can see in image link
[15:18:54] -!- dan2k3k4 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[15:19:07] <JT-Shop> note to self: Don't try and open the door to the VMC during a tool change
[15:20:00] <SpeedEvil> Did it change your tool?
[15:20:09] <archivist> he got wet :)
[15:23:47] -!- Benjamin23 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[15:24:03] <JesusAlos> I can't increase more than 50000 min base period from stepconf
[15:24:44] <JesusAlos> sorry: the maxium perod jitter
[15:24:50] <JesusAlos> can put more 50000
[15:25:27] <JesusAlos> sorry my English again
[15:27:06] -!- jduhls has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[15:30:26] -!- hm2-buildmaster has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[15:30:27] -!- linuxcnc-build has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[15:31:48] -!- sylphiae [sylphiae!~sylphiae@c-24-1-182-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:36:25] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: right not it's at 15000, try it at 25000 or 30000 next, see if the problem is still there
[15:36:54] <CaptHindsight> not/now
[15:38:39] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[15:39:03] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:39:54] -!- skunkworks has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[15:40:51] -!- skunkworks [skunkworks!~skunkwork@68-115-41-210.static.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:42:36] <JesusAlos> I put at 50000, the problem still
[15:43:38] <JesusAlos> can't put more than 50000 because the stepconf don't allo
[15:43:49] <JesusAlos> don't allow
[15:44:47] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: what kernel are you using? uname -r will tell you
[15:46:21] <JesusAlos> 2.6.32-122-rtai
[15:47:58] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[15:48:24] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[15:49:27] <JesusAlos> I was install from live CD, after installation accept updates synaptic recommend but still on Ubuntu10.04
[15:49:52] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: is this a laptop?
[15:50:03] <JesusAlos> not
[15:51:13] <jdh> My Atom on my router does that almost immediatly after starting.
[15:52:02] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TroubleShooting http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FixingSMIIssues have you tried everything here?
[15:53:56] <JesusAlos> you think the problem is my kernel?
[16:01:47] -!- sudobangbang has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[16:06:10] -!- ktchk [ktchk!~eddie6929@n219073006035.netvigator.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[16:09:27] -!- sumpfralle [sumpfralle!~lars@on1.informatik.uni-rostock.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[16:09:35] -!- rob_h has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[16:10:09] <JT-Shop> back running
[16:10:17] -!- rob_h [rob_h!~robh@90.217.27.142] has joined #linuxcnc
[16:10:19] <JT-Shop> less than an hour lost
[16:12:03] -!- PetefromTn_ [PetefromTn_!~IceChat9@75-136-62-206.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[16:14:50] -!- md-2 has quit [Quit: Leaving...]
[16:17:31] -!- dan2k3k4 has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[16:17:37] -!- DanielX has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
[16:19:16] -!- ktchk [ktchk!~eddie6929@n219073006035.netvigator.com] has parted #linuxcnc
[16:23:12] -!- b_b has quit [Changing host]
[16:24:18] -!- sirdancealot [sirdancealot!~koo5@98.82.broadband5.iol.cz] has joined #linuxcnc
[16:28:13] -!- larryone1 has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[16:38:01] -!- syyl_ [syyl_!~sg@p4FD11280.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[16:40:54] -!- terabyte- has quit [Quit: terabyte-]
[16:43:24] <CaptHindsight> JesusAlos: some BIOS and CPU combinations just have poor latency
[16:46:24] -!- dimas has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[16:47:56] -!- rob_h has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[16:49:49] -!- IchGuckLive [IchGuckLive!~chatzilla@88-134-131-25-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[16:49:52] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:50:17] <JesusAlos> hi
[16:50:27] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[16:50:46] <IchGuckLive> JesusAlos: did you got all running
[16:51:05] <JesusAlos> still with realtime delay error
[16:51:19] <IchGuckLive> did you implement the SMI error fix
[16:51:36] <JesusAlos> SMI?
[16:52:31] <IchGuckLive> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FixingSMIIssues
[16:53:16] <JesusAlos> oh no. i don't implemented
[16:53:19] <JesusAlos> I go to try in new installation
[16:53:30] <JesusAlos> a clean installation from live CD
[16:53:57] <IchGuckLive> be aware the new livecd has 12.04 2.6.10 on it
[16:56:22] -!- thomaslindstr_m has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[16:56:32] <JesusAlos> are precompiled already?
[16:56:47] <JesusAlos> in web I can see 10.04
[16:57:02] <JesusAlos> but not 12.04
[17:01:08] -!- dan2k3k4 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[17:01:19] <JesusAlos> ok I seeing
[17:03:22] -!- thealch3m1st [thealch3m1st!~thealch3m@cpe-76-172-31-62.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:03:23] -!- bertrik [bertrik!~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:03:49] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[17:04:12] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:09:36] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[17:10:04] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@mauve.plus.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:10:04] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Changing host]
[17:10:04] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:10:57] -!- zzolo has quit [Quit: zzolo]
[17:12:02] -!- zeitue has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[17:16:30] <JesusAlos> go to install
[17:16:32] <JesusAlos> by
[17:16:40] -!- JesusAlos has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 20.0/20130329043827]]
[17:19:01] -!- rob_h [rob_h!~robh@90.217.27.142] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:32:15] -!- JEntrep [JEntrep!~JEntrep@unaffiliated/jentrep] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:32:40] <JEntrep> I am looking for people and ideas on what would be the best approach to 3D-Print Shoe "molds"
[17:33:02] <JEntrep> that could then be used to automate Shoes being fabricated with other materials
[17:33:13] <JEntrep> *automate Shoe fabrication with other materials
[17:33:28] -!- JesusAlos [JesusAlos!~chatzilla@77.253.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:34:16] <JesusAlos> Please, don't found binary.hibrid.Iso file download
[17:35:09] <ReadError> spell it right
[17:35:12] <ReadError> hybrid ?
[17:35:45] <JesusAlos> yes
[17:35:53] <JesusAlos> live CD 2.6
[17:36:16] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[17:36:27] <JesusAlos> sorry
[17:36:34] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: normaly this is ,mad in AL
[17:36:40] <JEntrep> huh?
[17:36:43] -!- theorbtwo has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[17:36:50] <JEntrep> Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant IchGuckLive :/
[17:36:53] <IchGuckLive> not molded out of plastik
[17:37:01] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:37:19] <JEntrep> Right, the actual shoe is not made out of plastic (usually)
[17:37:36] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: is it only for low pices production 1-100
[17:37:44] <JEntrep> but I was wondering if anyone in here could give ideas on the TYPE of automation a small process like this would require
[17:37:54] <JEntrep> low quantity production
[17:38:01] <JEntrep> but over how much time?
[17:38:03] <JEntrep> 100 a day?
[17:38:06] <JEntrep> with one machine?
[17:38:23] -!- mhaberler [mhaberler!~mhaberler@macbook.stiwoll.mah.priv.at] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:38:31] <JEntrep> (standard industrial 3D-printer)?
[17:38:40] <IchGuckLive> http://www.yumpu.com/de/framas
[17:38:42] <JEntrep> Sorry for being such a noob :/
[17:39:05] <IchGuckLive> framas is a factory near the Uni hee they produce 100k pices a day
[17:39:25] <JEntrep> 100k shoes? O_o
[17:39:37] <IchGuckLive> there are able to go for max 7 colors in one shot round up
[17:40:05] <JEntrep> I don't need nearly that much output right now
[17:40:15] <IchGuckLive> the shou is mad in a "karusell" mold maker with max 12 extruders on it
[17:40:37] <IchGuckLive> do you look for a shoe hole print or only parts
[17:41:27] <JEntrep> not sure yet
[17:41:35] <JEntrep> possibly whole printing, or parts printing
[17:42:02] <JEntrep> I am more so trying to get an idea of the level of machinery necessary to have a very small automated fabrication process
[17:42:12] <JEntrep> for shoes of limited materials/colors
[17:42:20] <JEntrep> just to get an idea
[17:42:29] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: where are you i the world
[17:42:41] <JEntrep> USA
[17:42:49] <IchGuckLive> im in Germany
[17:42:59] <JEntrep> hehe :p
[17:43:04] <JEntrep> hallo
[17:43:16] <IchGuckLive> it is hard to discuss on limited language special words
[17:43:45] <IchGuckLive> Flecksole komponentensohle schaftaufbau ...
[17:44:58] <IchGuckLive> i worked 5years in a company that made molds for sole components
[17:45:18] <IchGuckLive> and knifes for punching ledder
[17:45:23] -!- terabyte- [terabyte-!~terabyte@c-76-18-21-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:45:29] <JEntrep> oh awesome! :D
[17:45:53] <JEntrep> Where can I find information on sole fabrication and design?
[17:45:59] <IchGuckLive> im living in the area that once made up to 10Mio pairs of shoues a week
[17:46:47] <JEntrep> O_o
[17:46:51] <IchGuckLive> and now only one Big shoe production line and maybe 15 suply mashine makers
[17:47:01] <JEntrep> which company?
[17:47:11] <IchGuckLive> the clue maker quit in April
[17:48:09] <JEntrep> clue maker?
[17:48:12] <IchGuckLive> https://maps.google.de/maps?gs_rn=51&gs_ri=psy-ab&cp=18&gs_id=ps&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.72676100,d.bGQ&biw=1372&bih=902&um=1&ie=UTF-8&fb=1&gl=de&q=pirmasens+schuhfabrik&hq=schuhfabrik&hnear=0x47967b8b333f281d:0x874ac5e9b772e015,Pirmasens&sa=X&ei=uLvjU-mkFYmRO-btgJgC&sqi=2&ved=0CI4BEMgT
[17:48:45] <IchGuckLive> im impressed google brings up more then one 6 in total
[17:48:50] -!- theorbtwo [theorbtwo!~theorb@cpc8-swin16-2-0-cust252.3-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[17:49:11] <IchGuckLive> Peter Kaiser is the bigest
[17:49:31] -!- thomaslindstr_m has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[17:50:28] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: there is a scool for shoue makers design and all stuff in town
[17:50:32] <JEntrep> do you know what their shoe production is like?
[17:50:35] <IchGuckLive> school
[17:50:49] <JEntrep> Well that's nice, but I am not in Germany. :P
[17:53:15] -!- thealch3m1st has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]
[17:53:15] <JEntrep> IchGuckLive, do you know where I can find learning materials for design and fabrication?
[17:55:42] <IchGuckLive> thats part of 4 jobs and about 6years of learning and practice
[17:56:06] <IchGuckLive> whad CAD do you got or design Prog
[17:56:26] <IchGuckLive> for intire start is Blender the best to go
[17:56:27] <JEntrep> I can use various CAD programs (as necessary)
[17:56:42] <JEntrep> anything from AutoCAD to OpenSCAD
[17:56:54] <IchGuckLive> Shoe mold are normaly made in Solidedge
[17:57:11] <JEntrep> makes sense
[17:57:19] <JEntrep> but any CAD program can make solid models :)
[17:57:25] <IchGuckLive> but 3D printing is blender ok
[17:57:45] <JEntrep> Why only Blender? :/
[17:58:12] <IchGuckLive> i do not know your background
[17:58:25] <IchGuckLive> you may be a noob or a pro to some parts
[17:58:34] <JEntrep> both, depending
[17:58:38] <JEntrep> I am not new to CAD
[17:58:41] <JEntrep> I am new to Shoe design
[17:58:42] <IchGuckLive> as i speed
[17:58:44] <IchGuckLive> k
[18:08:57] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fitq_YyJvk0
[18:09:31] <IchGuckLive> step by step https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV6AoxOkX8w
[18:10:36] <IchGuckLive> https://plus.google.com/101076135528517730950/posts
[18:13:25] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: http://tf3dm.com/3d-model/shoes-6058.html
[18:16:22] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, did the safety interlock on the door mess up the toolchange sequence?
[18:16:53] <Tom_itx> oh and btw, you're overdue for a nap since you started production so early
[18:17:21] <JT-Shop> aye, it can open up just enough to trip the alarm and drop out the power
[18:17:41] <Tom_itx> i'd disable the front door...
[18:18:03] <Tom_itx> unless you got some monkey workin for ya that doesn't know better
[18:18:05] -!- syyl_ws [syyl_ws!~sg@p4FD11280.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[18:18:45] -!- kfoltman [kfoltman!~kfoltman@46.7.73.150] has joined #linuxcnc
[18:18:45] <Tom_itx> we found it handy to reach in and blow out the swarf between tool changes sometimes
[18:18:54] <Tom_itx> with a long air nozzle
[18:19:02] <Tom_itx> like 2' long
[18:19:27] <IchGuckLive> JT-Shop: winter is on the way fill your propan ;-)
[18:19:48] <Tom_itx> IchGuckLive, naw, all he needs to do is schedule a bunch of production in the winter
[18:19:53] <JesusAlos> by
[18:20:03] <IchGuckLive> hi JesusAlos
[18:20:08] <Tom_itx> keep em all runnin, that'll keep it warm
[18:20:09] <IchGuckLive> did it install new
[18:20:10] <JEntrep> IchGuckLive, Thanks for the awesome links IchGuckLive :)
[18:20:20] <JesusAlos> not I go now
[18:20:33] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: up and running within 30seconds here
[18:20:35] <JesusAlos> downloades iso live CD
[18:20:44] <JEntrep> IchGuckLive, what do you mean by that?
[18:20:51] -!- JesusAlos has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]]
[18:23:09] <IchGuckLive> JEntrep: as wee speek http://foengarage.de/shoe.png
[18:23:49] <IchGuckLive> ready to prit in 4 klicks
[18:23:52] <JEntrep> IchGuckLive, hehe so you are working on something? :p
[18:24:04] <JEntrep> IchGuckLive, what are you exporting it to?
[18:24:08] <IchGuckLive> no just to show you
[18:24:21] <IchGuckLive> the printer takes stl
[18:25:22] <IchGuckLive> Ok i need to move im off for Today BYE
[18:25:32] -!- IchGuckLive has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 20.0/20130329043827]]
[18:26:30] <JT-Shop> yea, the compressor keeps the garage warm when I'm busy
[18:27:04] <Jymmm> Tht reminds me, I need to ht the gun shop for soem ear plugs
[18:31:06] <JT-Shop> you have gun shops on the left coast? I thought they are outlawed out there
[18:33:28] <Jymmm> No, only guns, ammo
[18:34:48] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Welcome to Kommifornia!
[18:35:16] -!- sylphiae has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[18:35:38] <JT-Shop> yea I guess it's not wise to have guns and ammo when everyone is stoned
[18:35:51] <Jymmm> they have a nice headband like pair of earplugs.
[18:36:04] <Jymmm> Nah, the stoners aren't violent
[18:38:42] <jdh> just the drinkers
[18:39:42] -!- sylphiae [sylphiae!~sylphiae@c-24-1-182-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[18:39:44] -!- arturia [arturia!~sylphiae@c-24-1-182-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[18:40:18] -!- sylphiae has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[18:41:59] -!- sudobangbang has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
[18:53:39] -!- thealch3m1st [thealch3m1st!~thealch3m@108-219-228-58.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[18:57:40] arturia is now known as sylphiae
[19:05:10] -!- Demiurge has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]
[19:05:10] Demiurge_ is now known as Demiurge
[19:07:16] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[19:19:46] -!- JesusAlos [JesusAlos!~chatzilla@77.253.17.95.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #linuxcnc
[19:20:50] <JesusAlos> I don't know why linuxcnc start with two branches Ubuntu and Devian
[19:21:41] <JesusAlos> can please some body explain something about?
[19:21:52] -!- mejackreed has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[19:22:39] <JesusAlos> which branch have more continuity?
[19:27:36] <jdh> is there a debian one now?
[19:28:39] <JesusAlos> yes
[19:28:41] <JesusAlos> 2.6
[19:29:08] <JesusAlos> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.user/52401
[19:29:30] -!- jesusalos-- [jesusalos--!~androirc@31.4.202.19] has joined #linuxcnc
[19:29:45] <jesusalos--> Ping
[19:31:05] -!- gabewillen [gabewillen!~gabewille@adsl-99-122-239-29.dsl.stl2mo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[19:32:26] -!- syyl_ws has quit [Quit: Verlassend]
[19:35:26] <skunkworks> jesusalos--, I don't think it really matters.. the should all run the latest.
[19:36:56] <MrHindsight> JesusAlos, what hardware are you using? CPU and chipset or mainboard?
[19:39:40] <MrHindsight> I've seen latency test results <10uS when nothing like Firefox, Chrome, are run or compiling with GCC, then after starting any of those it jumps to >200uS
[19:40:39] <_1SheYode> does linuxcnc have a gcode command to display errors like it does with (msg, ...) (debug, ...) ?
[19:41:11] <MC500> hal scope isnt showing anthing on any chanel, is there somthing that needs to be configured for it to work>
[19:42:52] -!- JEntrep has quit [Quit: Leaving]
[19:42:53] <JesusAlos> MrHindsight: celeron G1820 - msi H61M-P32/w8 - 2Gram
[19:43:10] <JesusAlos> and graphical card
[19:44:25] <JesusAlos> graphic card MSI N210
[19:45:50] <JesusAlos> skunkworks: is only for curiosity
[19:46:05] <JesusAlos> but what is the last Ubuntu 12.04 or Debian?
[19:46:27] <skunkworks> the newest livecd is base on debian wheezy
[19:48:08] -!- terabyte- has quit [Quit: terabyte-]
[19:49:24] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[19:49:26] -!- jesusalos-- has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds]
[19:49:49] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[19:54:14] -!- kfoltman has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
[19:54:51] -!- skunkworks has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[19:56:37] <MrHindsight> JesusAlos, the latest releases use the same kernel 3.4.9 (pae) RTAI
[19:56:43] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[19:57:05] <MC500> I dont know whats going on but for some reason (besides not working at all) hal does not have a section in signals for my A axis (XYZA) what file is that in?
[19:57:07] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[20:00:04] <MrHindsight> MC500, if you use step_config to make the config files it should in your *.HAL
[20:01:21] <JesusAlos> this night try with the same PC, the same configuration but with 2.6 Devian clean installation
[20:08:36] -!- mhaberler has quit [Quit: mhaberler]
[20:13:53] -!- Cylly [Cylly!cylly@p54B1249F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[20:13:55] -!- Loetmichel has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
[20:17:06] <JesusAlos> by
[20:17:17] -!- JesusAlos has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 31.0/20140716183446]]
[20:28:22] -!- tjb1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[20:29:27] -!- tjb1 [tjb1!~tjb1@cpe-67-252-67-92.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[20:34:31] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[20:34:57] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@mauve.plus.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[20:35:04] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Changing host]
[20:35:04] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[20:35:58] -!- FinboySlick has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[20:40:32] -!- gabewillen has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[20:42:45] -!- asah [asah!~asah@c-69-181-176-3.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:01:57] -!- micges has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[21:02:10] <asah> any servo heads here?
[21:02:22] -!- sylphiae has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[21:03:53] <asah> I want to know how to derate the peak current on a servo from 230VAC to 120VAC wall power
[21:04:48] <asah> servo says 17.1 amps at 230VAC wall power
[21:06:10] <asah> now using 120vac wall power, which is 170v DC rectified.
[21:06:43] <asah> assuming this servo will still tolerate 17.1 amps at 170vdc.
[21:06:55] <asah> and probably more than that before meltdown.
[21:07:00] <asah> correct thinking no?
[21:09:36] -!- skunkworks_ [skunkworks_!~chatzilla@str-broadband-ccmts-ws-26.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:09:45] <Deejay> gn8
[21:10:11] -!- Deejay has quit [Quit: bye]
[21:10:57] -!- skunkworks_ has quit [Client Quit]
[21:11:16] -!- skunkworks_ [skunkworks_!~chatzilla@str-broadband-ccmts-ws-26.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:12:27] -!- Benjamin23 [Benjamin23!~Thunderbi@121.sub-174-251-1.myvzw.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:17:12] -!- anarchos_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
[21:19:23] -!- gabewillen [gabewillen!~gabewille@96-35-247-244.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:22:27] <Jymmm> An=An^2+Bn+C
[21:26:26] -!- mejackreed has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[21:26:33] -!- i_tarzan has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
[21:28:23] -!- i_tarzan [i_tarzan!~i_tarzan@189.180.37.5] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:28:43] <PCW> asah: yes, current rating is same as before
[21:29:26] <asah> PCW: thanks
[21:31:07] <PCW> main limit is heat from I^2R in windings (this is voltage independent)
[21:31:19] -!- Benjamin23 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:34:02] -!- Benjamin23 [Benjamin23!~Thunderbi@121.sub-174-251-1.myvzw.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:35:17] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:36:13] <Jymmm> An = 3n² - 3n + 1
[21:37:22] -!- h_maximilian [h_maximilian!~bonsai@dslb-178-002-239-203.178.002.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:37:24] -!- h_maximilian [h_maximilian!~bonsai@dslb-178-002-239-203.178.002.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has parted #linuxcnc
[21:39:01] micges1 is now known as micges
[21:39:06] -!- Benjamin23 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:39:52] -!- sumpfralle has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[21:40:07] <sliptonic> I'm trying to migrate my mill config from one of the 2.6 experimental branches. It's failing in the gmoccapy_postgui on the line addf abs_spindle_feedback servo-thread
[21:40:18] <sliptonic> The same line works fine in the sim.gmoccapy config.
[21:40:37] <sliptonic> How do I figure out what's going on?
[21:41:28] <asah> man this servo is powerful! small and torquey
[21:41:34] <asah> scary fast.
[21:42:25] <PCW> try it at 230V
[21:43:22] <sliptonic> /var/log/linuxcnc shows: hal_lib:19467:user HAL: ERROR: function 'abs_spindle_feedback' not found
[21:43:29] -!- kfoltman [kfoltman!~kfoltman@46.7.73.150] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:43:40] <ssi> asah: what servo is it?
[21:44:08] <ssi> I have some parker servos that are something like 16A at 170V
[21:45:00] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:45:14] <asah> its a parker MPC891-116074
[21:46:10] <asah> PCW: yeah I should… I do have 220 single phase from the wall… =) I don’t want to shake my mill apart.
[21:46:57] <asah> I am worried about my ballscrew backlash and getting too much acceleration during the lash zone.
[21:47:23] <asah> and having all that velocity turn into a big hit once it starts to accelerate the ballscrew from nothing.
[21:48:02] <asah> part of that is the trajectory planner being very jerky (infinite jerk on velocity step changes)
[21:49:27] <asah> but part of that is inherent in the backlash problem, what you have alluded to PCW about being really hard to handle closing a position loop around glass scales where you have significant backlash.
[21:49:42] <asah> “a world of pain” I believe was the reference or something.
[21:49:57] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[21:51:01] <asah> I dont’ want to beat up my ball screws, and I don’t want to beatup myself.
[21:51:06] <asah> =)
[21:51:12] <PCW> if you just use the scale for the integral part that limits the correction rate
[21:51:42] <PCW> how much backlash do you have?
[21:51:55] -!- zzolo has quit [Quit: zzolo]
[21:52:10] <asah> feels like about .1 to .2 of full servo rotation
[21:52:20] <asah> perhaps even a third.
[21:52:27] <PCW> thats a lot
[21:52:30] <asah> I haven’t gotten all quantitative on it yet.
[21:52:38] -!- mejackreed has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[21:52:55] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[21:53:18] <asah> I am not sure if all that is totally no axis movment, so I really need to diff the scales movement to motor feedback to get clearer.
[21:53:30] <asah> but just playing with the tuning it is a bit jarring.
[21:53:49] -!- mhaberler [mhaberler!~mhaberler@macbook.stiwoll.mah.priv.at] has joined #linuxcnc
[21:53:55] <asah> I set a maxerrorD and maxcmdDD on the pid and that helped.
[21:54:28] <PCW> I would just use the motor encoder first untill you get the backlash thing figured out
[21:54:55] <asah> I mean I can use the glass scales as a reference, that tells me if the axis is moving.
[21:55:07] <asah> I do not have it currently plugged into my pid in any way.
[21:55:37] <PCW> backlash can come from lots of sources
[21:57:30] <Jymmm> Yeah, wife, kids, road rage, etc
[21:57:36] <PCW> ballscrew, bearing endplay, motor coupling
[21:58:14] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]
[21:58:18] <PCW> 1/3 of a turn needs to be fixed
[21:58:30] <asah> some is surely motor coupling, need to add some tightening there.
[21:58:43] <asah> I am not in front of it right now, so Ill have to report back.
[21:58:55] <asah> I may be exaggerating.
[21:58:56] <asah> =)
[21:59:14] <asah> feels like a “lot:
[21:59:15] <asah> "
[22:08:17] <ssi> my sloppy bridgeport clone has like 0.010" backlash, which is 1/20th of a revolution of the screw
[22:08:22] <ssi> any ballscrew should have FAR less than that
[22:13:33] <asah> Again, I can’t confirm how much lash this means at the axis though or on the actual screw as this is on the motor which is geared down at least 4:1 from ball
[22:15:55] -!- mhaberler has quit [Quit: mhaberler]
[22:16:31] -!- mhaberler [mhaberler!~mhaberler@macbook.stiwoll.mah.priv.at] has joined #linuxcnc
[22:19:01] -!- SpeedEvil has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.]
[22:20:27] -!- mejackreed has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[22:20:49] -!- SpeedEvil [SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil] has joined #linuxcnc
[22:28:13] -!- karavanjo has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
[22:36:00] -!- bertrik has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[22:36:55] <PetefromTn_> Damn I finally finished those parts today. Gotta pack and ship them out tomorrow. Then I am at a point where I have NOTHING to do on the machine sigh.
[22:38:21] -!- chris33 [chris33!~kvirc@2.220.176.230] has joined #linuxcnc
[22:38:53] <chris33> im reading up on spindles do all spindles need a vfd (inverter to run)
[22:40:28] <chris33> gor instance this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AIR-COOLED-1-5KW-SPINDLE-MOTOR-FOR-NUMERICAL-ENGRAVING-GRINDING-MILLING-h4-/120858490428?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_ET&hash=item1c23ba363c
[22:46:27] -!- amiri_ has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds]
[22:49:24] amnesic_away is now known as amnesic
[22:54:31] -!- patrickarlt has quit [Quit: Leaving...]
[22:55:37] -!- spatialbrew has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
[22:59:57] -!- mejackreed has quit [Quit: Leaving.]
[23:00:03] <asah> chris33: I would think you would want to go that way. using a vfd gets you nice speed control.
[23:00:22] <asah> you can just jam ac voltage on them, but that is a bit old school these days.
[23:00:39] -!- tmcw has quit []
[23:00:40] <chris33> so it can be used without?
[23:01:04] <archivist> depends on the motor
[23:01:13] <asah> the spindle on my 1986 maho doesn’t have a vfd.
[23:01:25] <chris33> i gather if i have a solid stae relay
[23:01:29] <chris33> on controller
[23:01:52] <asah> it uses a two speed approach with a star/delta starter (I believe)
[23:02:07] <asah> I am replacing with a vfd soon.
[23:02:40] <archivist> you cannot get top speed without s vfd
[23:02:49] <archivist> s/a
[23:05:04] -!- BrownsGas [BrownsGas!~SolarNRG@213.207.137.7] has joined #linuxcnc
[23:05:26] <BrownsGas> has anyone ever cnc'd a proton exchange membrane for a fuel cell?
[23:05:46] -!- h_maximilian1 [h_maximilian1!~bonsai@dslb-178-002-213-010.178.002.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has joined #linuxcnc
[23:05:48] -!- h_maximilian1 [h_maximilian1!~bonsai@dslb-178-002-213-010.178.002.pools.vodafone-ip.de] has parted #linuxcnc
[23:06:27] -!- mhaberler has quit [Quit: mhaberler]
[23:08:09] <JT-Shop> no, but I cnc'd my hydrogen generator and flux capacitor
[23:08:48] <PetefromTn_> You too...I love crankin' up my Delorean for a little time travel now and again.
[23:09:17] <PetefromTn_> what happened to your toolchanger?
[23:09:29] <BrownsGas> jt: what;s the surface area to vol ratio of your hydrogen gen?
[23:09:46] <Tom_itx> uh oh. somebody got called on it...
[23:10:37] -!- rob_h has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
[23:11:05] <JT-Shop> Pete I tried to open the door during a tool change
[23:11:37] <PetefromTn_> oh what happened then?
[23:11:59] <ssi> lol
[23:12:20] <JT-Shop> the door lock is sloppy enough to trip the drive out then you have to mechanically turn the carousel back before you power up
[23:12:42] <PetefromTn_> so no crashy then? thats good.
[23:12:55] <PetefromTn_> is this on factory control system?
[23:13:41] <JT-Shop> yea DX-32 control
[23:13:55] <PetefromTn_> okay.
[23:14:19] <PetefromTn_> glad it was not a major catastrophe, it is possible with this style of toolchanger unfortunately.
[23:14:39] <JT-Shop> yea, so you take a bunch of stuff off and pull the drive motor that extends the carousel and retract it out of the way of the spindle then put it all back
[23:15:21] <PetefromTn_> the carousel extension is motor driven? Interesting mine is all pneumo.
[23:15:25] <JT-Shop> just when I'm in a hurry to get parts to a customer that failed to plan but pays well
[23:15:48] <JT-Shop> yea, it has a gear motor that spins a drum with a slot cut in it
[23:15:51] <PetefromTn_> jeez I hear ya.
[23:16:27] <PetefromTn_> so like a cam action using a large diameter gear to move the carousel under the spindle.
[23:16:36] <JT-Shop> then I had to try and remember how to do a subtraction in SolidWorks
[23:16:48] <PetefromTn_> you mean cut?
[23:16:59] <JT-Shop> the cam rides in a spiral groove in the drum
[23:17:30] <PetefromTn_> overcomplicated huh.
[23:17:33] <JT-Shop> you can take two parts and "combine" them after mating them and subtract one from another
[23:17:40] -!- Tecan [Tecan!~fasdf@unaffiliated/unit41] has joined #linuxcnc
[23:17:45] -!- The_Ball [The_Ball!~ballen@202.10.92.134] has joined #linuxcnc
[23:17:49] <PetefromTn_> Oh like a boolean cut?
[23:17:51] <JT-Shop> it's the best way to cut the cam profile in the cam guide block
[23:17:55] <JT-Shop> yea
[23:18:25] <JT-Shop> just making notes so I don't forget how to do it next time
[23:18:43] <PetefromTn_> repairing the toolchanger or doing the boolean cut?
[23:18:53] <JT-Shop> doing the subtraction
[23:18:58] <PetefromTn_> aah...
[23:19:06] <JT-Shop> toolchanger just had to be reset
[23:19:30] <JT-Shop> I wish I could convert the VMC to LinuxCNC
[23:20:40] <asah> do it… do it… =)
[23:21:07] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, maybe you should start a solidworks 'howto'
[23:21:11] <PetefromTn_> why can't ya?
[23:21:49] <JT-Shop> I'd have to change the spindle servo and axis servos and all the drives
[23:21:58] <PetefromTn_> why?
[23:22:15] <JT-Shop> the spindle motor is a strange one that can't be driven with a vfd
[23:22:34] <asah> JT-Shop: what is the machine?
[23:22:56] <JT-Shop> BP Discovery 308
[23:22:56] <PetefromTn_> how is it controlled now?
[23:23:08] <JT-Shop> Semodrive 611
[23:23:28] <PetefromTn_> how is that controlled by the system is what I meant.
[23:25:41] <JT-Shop> dunno, all I know is the VFD people said they can't drive it
[23:26:08] <JT-Shop> http://www.gnipsel.com/images/Briggs/tab%20grinder%20nests.jpg
[23:26:15] <PetefromTn_> really wow that is interesting. I would imagine that the control has some kinda outputs and monitoring to it that would be doable somehow.
[23:26:28] <JT-Shop> because it is permanent magnet or something like that
[23:26:39] <JT-Shop> sure but not by a VFD
[23:26:42] <PetefromTn_> cool parts man.
[23:26:46] <JT-Shop> thanks
[23:26:53] <JT-Shop> spot my snafu
[23:26:55] <PetefromTn_> look like some simple ones tho really. what are they for?
[23:26:56] <JT-Shop> ?
[23:27:02] <asah> Control Techniques vector drive was mentioned in this retrofit thread: http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?topic=3328.20
[23:27:39] <JT-Shop> cam shaft nest to grind the compression release tab for Briggs motors
[23:27:41] <PetefromTn_> I don't see any problems but the picture is kinda distant
[23:27:58] <PetefromTn_> is one of the holes buggered?
[23:28:04] <JT-Shop> look at the lower right one
[23:28:11] <JT-Shop> text upside down :(\
[23:28:24] <PetefromTn_> engraving upside down
[23:28:28] <JT-Shop> yea
[23:28:30] <PetefromTn_> LOL
[23:28:41] <JT-Shop> they won't care but I do
[23:28:46] <Tom_itx> woops
[23:28:59] -!- kfoltman has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat]
[23:29:33] <Tom_itx> you cut all those today?
[23:29:40] <JT-Shop> I still have a few more Ops on the parts on the top two rows and the ones to the left of the wedges
[23:29:52] <JT-Shop> last two days
[23:30:17] <JT-Shop> see my reminder dots?
[23:30:47] <JT-Shop> tap the holes here
[23:30:50] <Tom_itx> not that clear
[23:31:01] -!- Tecan has quit [Quit: (if all goes well my audio works better rebooter)]
[23:31:03] <JT-Shop> bottom parts the tapped holes on top
[23:31:05] <Tom_itx> oh at the bottom
[23:31:40] <JT-Shop> pretty close for just dabbing it with a marker to remind me which way to put them in
[23:31:58] * JT-Shop loves machining 7075
[23:32:05] <Tom_itx> yep
[23:32:11] <Tom_itx> good quality stuff
[23:32:35] <LeelooMinai> Is it much different than 6061?
[23:32:37] <JT-Shop> yea and not as gummy as 6061
[23:34:01] <Tom_itx> do they supply the material for you?
[23:34:54] <JT-Shop> no
[23:35:25] <Tom_itx> a bit different than aircraft here... they're kinda picky about what it's made out of
[23:35:36] <JT-Shop> I can imagine
[23:35:39] <Tom_itx> even grain direction matters on some parts
[23:36:25] * JT-Shop wanders inside to relax
[23:36:31] <JT-Shop> goodnight
[23:36:37] <Tom_itx> good days work there...
[23:36:43] <Tom_itx> you earned some supper :)
[23:41:39] -!- Nick001-shop has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [Firefox 30.0/20140605174243]]
[23:42:31] -!- chopper79 [chopper79!~jeremy@dynamic132-61.wisp.nbson.net] has joined #linuxcnc
[23:43:01] -!- knownasilya has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]
[23:43:21] <chopper79> Hello Everyone,
[23:47:09] -!- Tecan [Tecan!~fasdf@ip-216-234-182-80.wireless.tera-byte.com] has joined #linuxcnc
[23:47:09] -!- Tecan has quit [Changing host]
[23:47:09] -!- Tecan [Tecan!~fasdf@unaffiliated/unit41] has joined #linuxcnc
[23:48:37] <chopper79> I would like to pick the vast knowledge of of this room. I am using a 5i25 + 7i77 combo on my mill conversion. I have the machine up and running fine, but am having issues with my jog pendent still. I spoke to peter at Mesa on the phone today about the issue I was having and he gave me some suggestions on what it could be. The issue I am having is that all my axis selections work, the increment selection works, but when I try to jog the ma
[23:50:03] <Tom_itx> shorten your post. only the first part made it here
[23:50:12] <Tom_itx> , but when I try to jog the ma
[23:50:45] <chopper79> ok
[23:51:06] <chopper79> but when I try to jog the machine the axis will move then shoot back to the original position. Example would be if I set the pendent to move on X axis at .01 increment, the machine will move the .01 and then go right back to the position it started. Any clues of what could be causing this? I have my config files I can post up if needed
[23:51:46] -!- zzolo has quit [Quit: zzolo]
[23:51:52] <PetefromTn_> I once had the wire come off on the MPG on my similar setup and it did something like that.
[23:52:02] <chopper79> To add to this both pendents I tried do the same thing and both are the following pendent. http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/product_info.php?cPath=40&products_id=162
[23:52:03] <PetefromTn_> I would double check the wiring to the encoder.
[23:52:21] <chopper79> double checked both pendents same issue and all wires are secure
[23:52:24] <Tom_itx> also, note all the active G & M codes during this
[23:53:17] <Tom_itx> i can show you my pendant code if you like
[23:53:34] <chopper79> @Tom... I will have to not them tomorrow as I am away from work.
[23:53:46] <chopper79> I would love to see your code please
[23:54:54] <chopper79> I brought all my files home so I could compare and do some research on the issue.
[23:55:01] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/
[23:55:12] <Tom_itx> the bulk of the pendant code is in my_jog.hal
[23:55:21] <Tom_itx> some may be in the main one
[23:56:32] <chopper79> yeah mine is WAY different... hmm
[23:56:34] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/pendant/pendant1.jpg
[23:56:39] <chopper79> I will post it up here
[23:56:41] <Tom_itx> that's basically what it looks like
[23:56:52] <chopper79> nice pendent
[23:59:20] <LeelooMinai> I was expacting some kind of CNCed ornamental pendant