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[00:03:03] <MrHindsight> MrCurious, is that a reprap board? have a link?
[00:04:26] <MrCurious> https://github.com/ErikZalm/Marlin
[00:04:58] <MrCurious> but i think i will change from a parallel port based driver for my cnc to a
http://shop.uberclock.com/collections/smoothie/products/smoothieboard
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[00:09:57] <asah> pulling master now.
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[00:21:21] <MrHindsight> MrCurious, those are all reprap class boards that don't work with Linuxcnc
[00:21:47] <MrCurious> yeah, they eliminate the need for emc
[00:21:54] <MrCurious> as they run the g code themselves
[00:22:31] <MrCurious> that whole has to have a parallel port is not an ideal solution in the modern world where parallel ports are super rare
[00:24:16] <MrHindsight> MrCurious, you might want to visit #reprap
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[00:28:27] <asah> looks like it was encoder power related.
[00:28:38] <asah> fixed now! thanks peter
[00:30:22] <ssi> MrHindsight: the controller board that they're using for that pnp
[00:30:33] <ssi> MrHindsight: I talked to those guys at maker... they have a finite jerk TP for it
[00:30:38] <ssi> I wonder if we could appropriate their TP :P
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[00:34:12] <MrHindsight> ssi, smmooothie or marlin?
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[00:35:25] <ssi> no... what was it called
[00:35:26] <ssi> you linked it to me
[00:35:46] <ssi> it's a four axis all in one controller board with drivers
[00:35:59] <ssi> that they're using for that open pick and place project you've been talking about
[00:36:11] <MrHindsight> oh I forget the name
[00:37:31] <MrHindsight> the OpenCV work might be of use if they did it right
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[00:52:17] <tjtr33> why are many very large stone routers like this: , gantry moves, table fixed ( stone is heavy ) BUT the gantry is a wide X Z moving on short Y rails
[00:52:47] <tjtr33> (tjtr33 needs a big machine tool for a project and was looking at alternatives)
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[01:00:58] <tjtr33> heh this one is not long x short y, and is very big
http://www.machines4sale.com/machines4sale/msimages/newsimages/20140224_00002742.jpg
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[01:03:31] <tjtr33> haha they call the long axis X ( hard to tell when operator pendant is inside the work envelope, and the parts load at ends of Y , so photo is sideways )
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[01:20:12] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33:
http://d2n4wb9orp1vta.cloudfront.net/resources/images/cdn/cms/MMS_0410_Windustries_A.jpg
[01:21:31] <tjtr33> thats the ticket! no need to lower your expectations ( outside of accuracy over 20 meters is likely a few cm :)
[01:22:14] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: for EDM?
[01:22:41] <CaptHindsight> http://www.coord3-cmm.com/used-gantry-coordinate-measuring-machine/ this might work
[01:23:22] <tjtr33> yah, why not, these big machines theyu just pee on the big automotive molds, so the table weight is huge. moving gantry seems ideal
[01:23:55] <CaptHindsight> http://www.coord3-cmm.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/MCT-StarLight-2-Gantry-1024x821.jpg
[01:23:55] <tjtr33> well cmms are not very stiff, but those mills would be
[01:24:32] <tjtr33> no way! jack screws!!
[01:25:27] <CaptHindsight> is it for milling?
[01:26:43] <tjtr33> no, sink edm, need 2 heads 5 meters travel total, 1.5Y and 1 Z. the casting has become a huge problem, actually storing the cores AND handling the machine base is trh eprob. not enuf floor space in the factory :)
[01:27:41] <tjtr33> save a bundle if that machine didnt have to come from asia, only the electrics
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[01:28:40] <tjtr33> btw edms are stiff machines, like hsm's
[01:29:12] <tjtr33> oh well gotta pack ( happy happy got some work :)
[01:29:15] <tjtr33> bye!
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[01:37:07] <PetefromTn_Andro> beautiful evening folks
[01:37:35] <PetefromTn_Andro> here in the east of Tennessee
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[01:38:51] <humble_sea_bass> you're the only ten-i-see
[01:39:12] <PetefromTn_Andro> oh I'm a ten now LOL
[01:39:29] <PetefromTn_Andro> I'm usually an
[01:39:36] <PetefromTn_Andro> six...
[01:40:00] <PetefromTn_Andro> whaddya doing man?
[01:40:19] <humble_sea_bass> doing drugs mostly
[01:40:41] <PetefromTn_Andro> aah chemical alternatives
[01:42:08] <PetefromTn_Andro> I worked on my spindle encoder mount program some more this evening.
[01:42:35] <PetefromTn_Andro> I need to get it done so I can rigid tap financial
[01:42:43] <PetefromTn_Andro> finally
[01:43:07] <humble_sea_bass> what encoder did you get
[01:44:33] <PetefromTn_Andro> I cannot remember the manufacturer of it right offhand
[01:44:48] <PetefromTn_Andro> abeco or something like that
[01:44:54] <jdh> is that being held by an alien?
[01:45:19] <PetefromTn_Andro> huh?
[01:45:27] <jdh> <oops>
[01:46:16] <PetefromTn_Andro> enjoying some Pink Floyd Division bell on my studio monitor headphones ....
[01:46:33] <PetefromTn_Andro> Damn I love this album.
[01:46:58] <jdh> even without weed?
[01:47:26] <PetefromTn_Andro> yup even without weed....awesome mellow out music
[01:47:38] <jdh> waterless pink
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[01:48:20] <PetefromTn_Andro> apparently they are going to release a new Floyd album next year or something like that.
[01:49:04] <PetefromTn_Andro> I think that encoder is an avago technologies model.
[01:49:25] <PetefromTn_Andro> 500 line I think.
[01:50:19] <PetefromTn_Andro> I borrowed an MA FORD 1"x90 degree champfer bit from a guy zip used to work with this weekend.
[01:50:43] <PetefromTn_Andro> he dropped it by and I showed him my CNC mill.
[01:51:03] <PetefromTn_Andro> He could not believe I run it entirely off single phase.
[01:51:16] <PetefromTn_Andro> I had to prove it to him LOL.
[01:51:50] <jdh> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152401910323409
[01:52:02] <PetefromTn_Andro> He seemed pretty impressed with it. We ran a short program made for the HAAS machines he uses at work he had on a thumb drive.
[01:52:03] <humble_sea_bass> you run your shop off single phase?
[01:52:22] <humble_sea_bass> whaaaa
[01:52:51] <PetefromTn_Andro> to my surprise it ran almost without issue.
[01:53:06] <PetefromTn_Andro> yup entirely single phase.
[01:53:39] <PetefromTn_Andro> Got rid of the phase converter I had and switched to all new servos and drives
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[01:54:33] <humble_sea_bass> on the cinci?
[01:54:45] <PetefromTn_Andro> whenever I manage to get a CNC slant bed lathe I plan to try to do the same thing with it.
[01:54:55] <PetefromTn_Andro> yeah Cincinnati arrow 500
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[01:56:01] <PetefromTn_Andro> I was worried my power bills would be high but so far even on the heaviest usage months I have hardly noticed a change at all.
[01:56:36] <humble_sea_bass> yeah the amp draw could be bananas
[01:56:37] <PetefromTn_Andro> If I can get a large production run in here at some point that may change
[01:56:58] <PetefromTn_Andro> I run the whole machine off a 60 amp breaker.
[01:57:11] <PetefromTn_Andro> never tripped it once so far
[01:58:14] <ssi> peet
[01:58:14] <humble_sea_bass> that's actually really reassuring
[01:58:57] <PetefromTn_Andro> sup ssi
[01:59:18] <PetefromTn_Andro> yeah I am very pleased with the machine so far. It just plain works.
[02:00:35] <PetefromTn_Andro> I finished the prototype I was working on this weekend and machines some more custom scope riser rails. Got several more to do but I gotta empty my chip trays out they are freaking full LOL
[02:01:07] <humble_sea_bass> do you recycle your chips and swarf
[02:01:51] <PetefromTn_Andro> honestly so far I have not but I want to. I have only been milling 6061 so it is all the same stuff. should not have any issues recycling it.
[02:02:49] <PetefromTn_Andro> I love this song wearing the inside out on Division Bell
[02:03:23] <PetefromTn_Andro> humble you work in a pro shop right?
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[02:03:50] <XXCoder2> I wonder if theres some point where it is worth it to remelt swar into more sheets
[02:03:59] <XXCoder2> or blocks or whatever
[02:04:17] <PetefromTn_Andro> I doubt it would be worth the trouble.
[02:04:37] <humble_sea_bass> well, if it isn't a hassle for you and collecting it isnt a pain in the ass
[02:04:42] <PetefromTn_Andro> unless you just get off on the idea of doing it.
[02:05:12] <XXCoder2> well probably cheaper than buying similiar size stock if dont mind bit lower quality
[02:05:30] <PetefromTn_Andro> actually my machine has slide out pans on each side and they just get scooped out pretty easy really.
[02:05:55] <humble_sea_bass> if i had a small cinter jam,
[02:06:06] <PetefromTn_Andro> I just need to figure out who to give it to locally
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[02:06:45] <PetefromTn_Andro> whazza cinter jam?
[02:08:31] <PetefromTn_Andro> I have been looking at some videos online that show these multi axis work stops
[02:08:38] <humble_sea_bass> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDyi3L86i00
[02:08:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> many are shop built and look sweet.
[02:08:49] <humble_sea_bass> brickette maker
[02:08:51] <humble_sea_bass> hah
[02:09:30] <asah> what is your mill PetefromTn_Andro?
[02:09:39] <asah> I am doing a single phase conversion on my maho MH400
[02:09:51] <PetefromTn_Andro> I am sure I could machine the base and body of the thing and the rest is simple lathe work.
[02:09:59] <XXCoder2> reminds me of that machine that turns wood swarf into thin "logs" for wood burning
[02:10:29] <PetefromTn_Andro> asah my mill is a Cincinnati Arrow 500 VMC
[02:10:39] <asah> just got all my new servos spinning today!
[02:10:57] <PetefromTn_Andro> awesome its a great feeling huh.
[02:11:21] <PetefromTn_Andro> did you gut the pig like I did and start with all new servos and drives?
[02:11:39] <asah> yeah.
[02:11:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> nice
[02:11:52] <asah> scored a bunch of fanuc redcaps from ebay.
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[02:12:06] <asah> using mesa 8i20s to drive them.
[02:12:32] <PetefromTn_Andro> yup mesa rocks.. I am using the 5i25/7i77 combo
[02:12:35] <asah> am just about to mount the first axis! pretty fun.
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[02:13:20] <asah> thats smart, I went with way more boards.
[02:13:22] <PetefromTn_Andro> except for my screwing up and frying some stuff I have had zero trouble with my mesa stuff.
[02:13:36] <asah> but my boards started off life on another project.
[02:13:46] <asah> I am mostly all good except for 5v IO.
[02:13:53] <asah> might need to get another board for that.
[02:14:03] <asah> but peter is great.
[02:14:07] <PetefromTn_Andro> why 5 volt?
[02:14:35] <asah> I could hook up the commutation tracks from the encoders.
[02:14:49] <asah> Ill get there, but currently just going to go with wake and shake.
[02:15:02] <PetefromTn_Andro> sweet.
[02:15:06] <asah> bldc qi
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[02:15:21] <PetefromTn_Andro> post a video when you get it running so we can see that monster.
[02:15:33] <asah> =) its a smaller monster than yours.
[02:15:43] <asah> my wife would kill me if I had that out in my shop.
[02:15:45] <asah> =)
[02:16:02] <PetefromTn_Andro> heh mines not all that big really
[02:16:23] <PetefromTn_Andro> it's like 9' square
[02:16:32] <asah> prob another third on each axis from me.
[02:16:48] <PetefromTn_Andro> its 20x20x20 actually
[02:17:02] <PetefromTn_Andro> 500mm
[02:17:29] <asah> yeah, a bit bigger than me. excited to get this thing back up.
[02:17:49] <PetefromTn_Andro> I am sure.
[02:17:57] <asah> had it up under philips control (circa 1986) and it was super painful.
[02:18:07] <PetefromTn_Andro> those are supposed to be really high quality machines
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[02:18:58] <asah> it looks really nice. glass scales, nice horizontal to vertical mill changero options, cat40 hydraulics etc...
[02:19:03] <asah> no toolchanger on the 400 though.
[02:19:05] <asah> =(
[02:19:32] <PetefromTn_Andro> I would love to have a horizontal/vertical machine like that
[02:19:38] <asah> if I get rid of the cab / make it a separate unit it would basically be a smaller footprint than a bridgeport.
[02:19:54] <asah> maybe we trade when we are bored. =)
[02:20:03] <PetefromTn_Andro> hehehe
[02:20:13] <asah> freight from cali would be rough =)
[02:20:29] <PetefromTn_Andro> I bet it will run circles around a bridgie
[02:20:47] <skunkworks> asah: you have the build log going on practical machinist..
[02:21:04] <asah> yeah.
[02:21:15] <asah> finally getting to the single phase phase.
[02:22:31] <asah> had to get some brackets and sprockets machined for the new servos. always frustrating to have to pay someone else to make something for the machine that can make it. =)
[02:22:35] <ssi> PetefromTn_Andro: I run my hnc on single phase too
[02:22:50] <ssi> I have two VFDs in it, one for the spindle motor and one for the coolant pump
[02:22:55] <ssi> everything else is 220 single phase
[02:23:06] <PetefromTn_Andro> yup that's what I have too
[02:23:17] <ssi> PetefromTn_Andro: I found a vmc I want to try to get
[02:23:25] <PetefromTn_Andro> so damn simple really
[02:23:31] <asah> that is something I have to do, I have a couple of vfds here on the shelf, one for spindle, one for the hydraulics.
[02:23:48] <PetefromTn_Andro> awesome what kind is it?
[02:23:53] <asah> after I can jog some axes, I hop on to that.
[02:26:09] <asah> here is the thread skunkworks was talking about, has some pics
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/dmg-mori-gildemeister-maho-cnc/maho-mh400e-retrofit-linuxcnc-277268/
[02:28:36] <PetefromTn_Andro> cool I'll check it out.
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[02:32:20] <skunkworks> asah: akb1212 seems to over analyse everything...
[02:33:23] <asah> oh man… the longest posts ever!
[02:33:44] <skunkworks> heh
[02:33:47] <asah> he must be able to type really fast to get all that out. =)
[02:34:17] <asah> sounds like he has a nice machine.
[02:34:42] <asah> but yeah, he is a deep diver on every little detail.
[02:35:39] <PetefromTn_Andro> http://www.roviproducts.com/Mill_Stop.htm
[02:35:55] <PetefromTn_Andro> I want to make something like that for the CNC
[02:36:21] <asah> those are pretty nice. I have a knockoff.
[02:36:37] <PetefromTn_Andro> did you make it?
[02:36:45] <asah> ebay I think.
[02:37:08] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: If you make a small one, I'll buy it from you
[02:37:08] <PetefromTn_Andro> how do you like it?
[02:37:40] <asah> it cool. nice positive locking, I was surprised at how well it holds position.
[02:37:48] <PetefromTn_Andro> Honestly I will probably make one so I could make two just as easily LOL
[02:38:25] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: I need a smaller one though, which is what I can't find anywhere
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[02:38:34] <asah> I got the idea from
http://www.micro-machine-shop.com which has all kinds of nice little ideas.
[02:38:42] <PetefromTn_Andro> dunno how small it would be tho it needs to be able to reach my Kurt from a couple tee slots away easily.
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[02:39:18] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: I just need it to work with a 10-32 t-nut
[02:39:42] <os1r1s> So the bottom piece is probably the only thing that would need to be different
[02:40:02] <PetefromTn_Andro> 10-32? jeez man that is small... I think mine are 1/2-13 or something
[02:41:13] <PetefromTn_Andro> what kinda mill do you have?
[02:41:27] <Tom_itx> taig or sherline probably
[02:41:28] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: taig
[02:41:32] <Tom_itx> :)
[02:41:35] <os1r1s> :)
[02:41:44] <PetefromTn_Andro> aah okay.
[02:41:51] <Tom_itx> those use 10-32
[02:42:14] <skunkworks> for low quantitity stuff I just probe the edges..
[02:42:28] <skunkworks> slap it in the vice - probe location..
[02:42:38] <PetefromTn_Andro> I bet if I made a nice small one like that in batches folks would buy them pretty good it does not seem like there are any for that size machine
[02:43:02] <os1r1s> skunkworks: I am milling injection molds, and I want to be able to drop it back in if I need to touch it up.
[02:43:20] <os1r1s> PetefromTn_Andro: There are none. I've looked everywhere
[02:43:20] <Tom_itx> from aluminum or steel?
[02:43:38] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: alum
[02:43:46] <Tom_itx> must be small molds
[02:43:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> yeah a nice quality table mounted vise stop is sweet to have even if you are just making a couple pieces
[02:44:05] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: Yeah. For a small IM machine.
[02:44:14] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_Andro, problem is, i never use my table
[02:44:30] <Tom_itx> it's always got a plate on it
[02:44:44] <PetefromTn_Andro> yeah I know you use a spindle mounted work stop
[02:45:04] <Tom_itx> not on the sherline but on the big ones we did
[02:45:07] * skunkworks doesn't know how he ever did anything without a touch probe... ;)
[02:45:13] <Tom_itx> i may have a couple times...
[02:45:15] <PetefromTn_Andro> you can screw it to the plate probably
[02:45:25] <Tom_itx> yep, i made a crude one for a job
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[02:45:40] <Tom_itx> with a slide mount to fit between the grid
[02:45:55] <PetefromTn_Andro> a spindle probe is on the to do list LOL
[02:46:14] <asah> ebay option:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vise-stop-5-Axis-movement-mill-work-stop-part-locator-1-2-13-table-bolt-/121164910130?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item1c35fdce32
[02:46:21] <Tom_itx> i made one but not with the accuracy of a _real_ one
[02:46:22] <PetefromTn_Andro> probably retrofit a commercial one
[02:47:10] <PetefromTn_Andro> damn that's not a bad price really.
[02:47:28] <PetefromTn_Andro> wonder of its a piece of shit or not?
[02:48:00] <asah> this one looks nicer than the one I have from ebay, which is more like :
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Axis-Vise-Mill-Stop-Fits-Bridgeport-5-8-Table-Vises-/311031565847?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item486aed0e17
[02:48:09] <asah> and that one is pretty positive.
[02:48:24] <asah> you could always modify it to suit after you got it. =)
[02:48:32] <asah> save you some cad time
[02:48:47] <PetefromTn_Andro> jeez man for $65.00 it is almost not worth the trouble to make one.
[02:49:06] <Tom_itx> depends how many you plan to make
[02:49:35] <PetefromTn_Andro> that guy Tom from OX tools on YouTube made one and he shows it in one of his videos..
[02:50:39] <PetefromTn_Andro> LOL yeah right. If I had folks interested I would machine a damn back scratcher If I thought I could make some decent cash on it LOL
[02:51:08] <PetefromTn_Andro> nose hair picker
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[02:51:41] <Tom_itx> http://www.a2zcnc.com/
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[02:51:44] <PetefromTn_Andro> butt scratcher with bonus extended finger heheb
[02:51:52] <Tom_itx> they make a few taig and sherline things
[02:52:35] <os1r1s> Tom_itx: littlemachineshop would probably buy a bunch of someone made them
[02:52:51] <os1r1s> They resell stuff others make I believe.
[02:53:11] <Tom_itx> they likely wanna make most of the profits though
[02:53:35] <os1r1s> I think selling direct is ideal. But if you didn't want to bother, I'm sure you could offload a ton there
[02:54:49] <PetefromTn_Andro> well I gotta get to bed kids start school tomorrow morning and I gotta get em there in time LOL
[02:55:03] <PetefromTn_Andro> nite all
[02:55:30] <Tom_itx> later
[02:55:46] <PetefromTn_Andro> cya Tom ;)
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[02:57:34] <asah> later pete
[03:01:32] <ssi> I saw a guy with a little IM machine at maker, was pretty cool
[03:01:38] <ssi> I wouldn't mind playing with IM sometime
[03:05:03] <Jymmm> IM machine?
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[03:12:44] <ssi> injection molding
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[03:20:16] <CaptHindsight> I'd expect low pressure injection molding to be more popular for DIY
[03:20:59] <CaptHindsight> the same hot melts may be used for FDM
[03:23:29] <os1r1s> This is the IM I'm using ...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/55eie4v96d0i66c/IM150B.jpg
[03:25:55] <Jymmm> red handle to hold the mold in place?
[03:26:22] <os1r1s> Jymmm: Its a quick clamp to hold it. It comes with a normal low profile vise
[03:26:29] <os1r1s> But I like that better
[03:27:02] <Jymmm> os1r1s: What are you molding typically?
[03:27:32] <os1r1s> Jymmm: I'm just getting started with it. But I want to use it to do small electronic cases and trinkets for my kids.
[03:27:48] <Jymmm> os1r1s: ah
[03:27:57] <os1r1s> Jymmm: I lasercut a ton of cases now, and would like something a bit quicker/easier.
[03:28:14] <Jymmm> acrylic?
[03:28:22] <os1r1s> Jymmm: Yeah
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[03:29:00] <Jymmm> os1r1s: Are you laser cutting acrylic then solvent welding them ?
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[03:31:20] <os1r1s> Jymmm: These ...
http://store.gadgetfactory.net/acrylic-case-by-os1r1s-papilio-pro/
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[03:43:55] <Jymmm> os1r1s: Ah
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[12:29:01] <PetefromTn_> morning folks!
[12:29:27] <XXCoder2> hey
[12:31:09] <PetefromTn_> well kids are in school and I got the shop to myself today so maybe I can get something done here after breakfast LOL
[12:31:41] <jdh> put away teh internette pr0n and start cutting
[12:32:05] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[12:32:13] <PetefromTn_> need to wean man.
[12:32:39] <jdh> is that what you call it.
[12:32:42] <PetefromTn_> my porn unfortunately is watching videos of multi axis high end CNC's making impossible parts quickly LOL
[12:32:47] <jdh> nice.
[12:33:23] <XXCoder2> lol
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[12:35:22] <PetefromTn_> it is a beautiful morning here today. Nice and cool and sunny with not a cloud in the sky.
[12:35:39] <jdh> it's been raining here since thursday
[12:35:41] <PetefromTn_> we are supposed to get more normal temps later this week but right now I am enjoying it.
[12:36:51] <PetefromTn_> I cannot tell you how nice it is to finally have a brand new sink and counter top in our kitchen all hooked up and plumbed properly. It really is a pain in the ass without it while we were working on the base cabinets.
[12:37:04] <skunkworks> heh
[12:37:19] <skunkworks> washing dishes in the bath tub... been there...
[12:37:25] <skunkworks> ;)
[12:37:47] <XXCoder2> lol
[12:38:03] <PetefromTn_> yeah well we did have the dishwasher hooked up and an impromptu setup for the drain but just not being able to wash your damn hands or whatever is a real bitch.
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[12:38:58] <PetefromTn_> I have been eyeballing that old stainless kitchen sink and trying to decide if I want to build a cabinet for the shop and stick it out there so I have a nice place to wash my hands etc while I am working.
[12:39:18] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/house/kitchenalmost3.JPG
[12:39:32] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/house/kitchenalmost2.JPG
[12:39:51] <skunkworks> small kitchen.. was pobaby 6 years ago. still in nice shape.
[12:40:05] <PetefromTn_> Not sure I want to deal with all the plumbing for taht.
[12:40:07] <PetefromTn_> that
[12:40:12] <PetefromTn_> nice skunkie!
[12:40:18] <PetefromTn_> Did you build those cabinets yourself?
[12:40:30] <skunkworks> no - they where re-used
[12:40:36] <PetefromTn_> our kitchen is pretty small actually.
[12:40:45] <XXCoder2> nice
[12:40:58] <PetefromTn_> our house is a cape cod style where everything is kinda tall and narrow LOL
[12:41:03] <XXCoder2> kitchen here is siz3e of walk in closet
[12:41:07] <PetefromTn_> even the damn doorways are tall and narrow.
[12:41:14] <XXCoder2> 6'x8' I think
[12:41:56] <PetefromTn_> my cabinets are actually just the original typical oak ones they put in a lot of houses around here.
[12:42:44] <PetefromTn_> But we are rebuilding them and embellishing them with trim and then refinishing them with a cream color paint with a hand glazed van dyke brown and then two coats of water based urethane clear coat.
[12:43:39] <PetefromTn_> Kind of a pain in the ass but it is ultimately cheaper that building all new cabinets. If we planned to live here permanently it would be different I would build a killer kitchen from scratch but since we are trying to sell it I am just gonna make what it already there as nice as possible.
[12:44:30] <PetefromTn_> I am quite sure that is why our house has not sold yet. Nobody likes an ugly kitchen LOL.
[12:44:54] <PetefromTn_> so these modifications and work will hopefully make the difference and get our house sold soon.
[12:45:27] <PetefromTn_> I still have to take down the wall cabinets and rework them now. Also gotta install the new toe kick fascia boards I finished recently.
[12:45:54] <PetefromTn_> Then we are trying to decide if we want to machine all new doors and drawer fronts or just refinish the original ones.
[12:46:44] <PetefromTn_> I have a nice wood shaper so making new doors is pretty easy really. I can make beautiful raised panel doors or whatever really with it. I have quite a few different profiles here too.
[12:48:51] <PetefromTn_> Well I better crank up this machine and start making some damn chips here. Talk later guys.
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[12:51:16] <skunkworks> these where hickory and in good shape so we re-used them. The only thing that could be re-varnished is the nosing around the front edge of the counter top.
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[13:21:08] <FinboySlick> Good morning people.
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[15:28:29] <JT-Shop> anyone using verizon mifi?
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[15:34:39] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: any chance you could organize some mesh network in your area to get better internet access?
[15:36:11] <JT-Shop> what's a mesh network?
[15:36:32] <CaptHindsight> wifi network with repeaters
[15:37:17] <CaptHindsight> how far would you have to go to get to a fast fiber or cable connection?
[15:37:28] <JT-Shop> no one has anything but satellite out here
[15:37:59] <JT-Shop> one neighbor about a 1/2 mile away just got mifi, we have a new Verizon tower about 2 miles from here now
[15:38:08] <ssi> how far is it til cable is available?
[15:38:20] <ssi> there are high power point to point wireless links
[15:38:35] <JT-Shop> unknown
[15:38:35] <CaptHindsight> http://www.bitstorm.com/fcc-regulations/
[15:39:01] <JT-Shop> there is a cable about 2 miles from here but it's not hooked to anything yet
[15:39:30] <JT-Shop> some kind of money waster scam they run cable all over the place but don't provide any service
[15:39:50] <CaptHindsight> we had fiber running across the front of the property line with no access for years
[15:39:57] <JT-Shop> point to point fails here because of the trees and hills
[15:40:07] <ssi> there was some law or federal initiative to run broadband to some absurdly high percentage of rural america
[15:40:09] <CaptHindsight> well $1200/mo for 10/10mb
[15:40:38] <JT-Shop> I had to put up a 40' tower to get point to point then the guy next to the isp tower made them take it down
[15:40:52] <JT-Shop> ssi, yea that is it
[15:40:54] <ssi> :/
[15:42:00] <JT-Shop> I pay $60/month for 10Gb
[15:42:18] <JT-Shop> the turds say I've used 24% already this month
[15:42:55] <ssi> terrible
[15:43:05] <CaptHindsight> in 4 days?!
[15:43:10] <JT-Shop> I need to download everything between 12am and 5am
[15:43:20] <JT-Shop> yea WTF is what I say
[15:43:24] <ssi> do you get better rates off peak or something?
[15:43:38] <JT-Shop> ?
[15:44:04] <ssi> if it's a flat 10G/mo, why does downloading in the wee hours help?
[15:44:22] <JT-Shop> ah unmetered during those hours
[15:44:26] <ssi> ahh ok
[15:44:41] <ssi> then yes, I'd be sucking every last drop of bandwidth possible during those hours :)
[15:44:45] <ssi> cache the internet from 12-5
[15:44:45] <ssi> haha
[15:44:47] <JT-Shop> only Jymmm is up at that time so they don't care
[15:45:08] <ssi> haha
[15:45:21] <JT-Shop> that's why I need to download files at night
[15:45:34] <CaptHindsight> if you have a spare PC you could install IPFire or vnStat or similar to log your connections and bandwidth
[15:46:29] <JT-Shop> does that keep you from using the computer?
[15:47:14] <CaptHindsight> heh, well you can see what is actually being transferred
[15:47:27] <JT-Shop> just looking at vnstat now
[15:49:58] <JT-Shop> can vnstat monitor my whole LAN?
[15:50:03] <CaptHindsight> running adblock and flashblock help a bit to cut down wasted bits
[15:51:21] <jdh> my router will monitor traffic usage
[15:51:49] <CaptHindsight> it could if you use one PC as a router with 2 nic's, one nic to internet, the other nic to the rest of your network
[15:51:52] <JT-Shop> yea, I'm running adblock now
[15:52:16] <JT-Shop> ok, what is a nic?
[15:52:24] <CaptHindsight> network card
[15:52:35] <JT-Shop> I just sorted that out LOL
[15:53:10] <JT-Shop> I could do that the way I've wired the shop
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[15:53:29] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ipfire.org/ you could also use one PC as a firewall and network monitor
[15:54:09] <CaptHindsight> they have a bunch of utils in there for monitoring and throttling traffic
[15:55:15] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: Might also want to look into openwrt if you want to centralize monitoring.
[15:55:22] <JT-Shop> I need to look into doing that, I just got a spare PC
[15:55:35] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: What are you using as a router now?
[15:55:41] <jdh> does your current router not do that?
[15:55:44] <FinboySlick> (for once I can be useful to the conversation)
[15:56:10] <JT-Shop> an 8 port dlink
[15:56:24] <CaptHindsight> FinboySlick: besides hours of amusement? :p
[15:56:24] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: You sure it's a router and not a switch?
[15:56:57] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: what does verizon charge for mifi?
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[15:57:38] <FinboySlick> CaptHindsight: The OpenWRT bit you mean?
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[15:57:52] <JT-Shop> no, the dlink won't show usage like the other one I have will but it is only 4 port
[15:58:13] <JT-Shop> DIR632 Router
[15:58:24] <JT-Shop> CaptHindsight, have not figured that out yet
[15:58:57] <JT-Shop> my neighbor said it is really fast compared to sat, but didn't kno w the cost or limits
[16:00:04] <JT-Shop> I have a netgear n300 that I can put between the 8 port and the modem and netgear will show usage
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[16:01:11] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: I haven't seen a 8 port consumer router since the late 90s. I'd be very curious to hear what model it is.
[16:01:23] <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop> DIR632 Router
[16:01:24] <FinboySlick> Oh, damn.
[16:01:28] <FinboySlick> Sorry.
[16:01:32] <JT-Shop> np
[16:02:10] <FinboySlick> I have to go for lunch. I'll have a look later though.
[16:02:45] <JT-Shop> me too
[16:11:48] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: if the router application logs connections and usage then yes
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[16:14:02] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/d-link/dir-632 in the dangerous Alpha stage
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[16:20:27] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: the standard software does some logging but if it might not have enough memory to track an entire month
[16:21:09] <jthornton> ouch the mifi cost $120 a month for 10Gb
[16:26:20] <Jymmm> jthornton: what router do you have (brand and model#) ?
[16:26:45] <jthornton> <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop> DIR632 Router
[16:27:28] <jthornton> <JT-Shop> an 8 port dlink
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[16:30:28] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:30:54] <ssi> hi
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[16:44:54] <CaptHindsight> http://www.businessinsider.com/how-cable-companies-are-keeping-you-from-enjoying-fiber-2014-6
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[16:50:51] <Jymmm> jthornton: You need traffic shaping / monitoring; hense openwrt or ddwrt, and maybe a new router. If you had an android device with two ethernet ports that would work great as android already has traffic monitoring built in. Basically you need to see/know what type of travvic is sucking everything down and then be able to manage/rate limit it.
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[16:55:17] <Jymmm> jthornton: Some sort of smart caching proxy might help too, as it can download things you don't need "right now" for when you are unmetered. Also what TZ is that unmetered time period for?
[16:55:47] <jthornton> local I think
[16:56:43] <Jymmm> how fast is your connection?
[16:57:16] <Jymmm> jthornton: how fast is your connection?
[16:57:21] <jthornton> it varies with the weather a lot, sometimes 300 baud
[16:57:35] <jthornton> gotta run be back later
[16:57:47] <Jymmm> nevermind then
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[16:58:19] <jthornton> gotta be at a customers place in a few minutes
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[17:02:46] <CaptHindsight> yeah, satellite can really slow down with weather
[17:02:56] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: the plans look like this
http://www.hughesnet.com/?page=Plans-Pricing
[17:03:34] <CaptHindsight> http://www.wildbluesales.com/
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[17:04:22] <CaptHindsight> http://www.exedeinternet.com
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[17:05:07] <CaptHindsight> http://www.starband.com/services/index.html
[17:08:08] <jdh> invite google to run fiber to the farm... or a blimp
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[17:17:05] <IchGuckLive> hi to the new people just joint
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[17:17:24] <IchGuckLive> question about cnc or linuxcnc just ask
[17:17:46] <lair82_> cmorley , Hey had a question for you, I know Norbert has had some things come up, and knowing how close you guys worked together on gscreen/gmoccapy I was wondering, the onscreen messages that can be configured in the INI file in gscreen, what would cause that feature to not be available in gmoccapy
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[17:19:03] <cmorley> Norbert
[17:19:09] <cmorley> he likes his better
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[17:19:23] <cmorley> :)
[17:19:45] <cmorley> I gotta go sorry tty
[17:20:13] <lair82_> Ok
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[20:42:41] <tehcereal> hello i have a simple question
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[20:43:12] <tehcereal> if for example my mill thinks it goes 36cm
[20:43:23] <tehcereal> and in reality it goes 36.2mm
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[20:43:54] <tehcereal> 36.2cm* i should lower the scale in the .ini document
[20:44:11] <tehcereal> so it goes 0.2cm to far
[20:44:21] <FinboySlick> It *may* not be a scale problem with an error like this.
[20:44:38] <tehcereal> got it
[20:44:41] <tehcereal> but im asking
[20:44:46] <tehcereal> if the maschine overshoots
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[20:44:57] <tehcereal> i am suposed to lower the scale
[20:45:07] <FinboySlick> There are other things that could cause your machine to overshoot.
[20:46:21] <FinboySlick> I don't know what your setup looks like but inertia might be an issue here.
[20:46:41] <FinboySlick> Have you tested backlash?
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[20:49:01] <FinboySlick> tehcereal: Are you running ballscrew, acme screw, belt, rack/pinion?
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[22:55:12] <CaptHindsight> http://3dprintingindustry.com/2014/08/04/3d-printed-organ-evolution-continues-bioassemblybot/ checkout their user interface
[22:55:20] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: ^^
[22:56:34] <CaptHindsight> http://www.bioassemblybot.com/
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[22:58:25] <CaptHindsight> heh TSIM = 3d CAM for organs and tissues
[22:59:01] <PetefromTn_PC> interesting. what about the interface?
[22:59:08] <CaptHindsight> 6-axis somehow tied into autodesk I bet
[22:59:38] <PetefromTn_PC> what no solidworks heart printing going on?
[22:59:48] <PetefromTn_PC> blasphemy..LOL
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[23:08:55] <CaptHindsight> it's just a 6 axis robot with a custom GUI
[23:09:59] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1WXK3rKvsU
[23:10:03] <PetefromTn_PC> yup that is basically what it looks like.
[23:11:46] <CaptHindsight> plus it's hanging from a rickety t-slot frame
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[23:14:00] <CaptHindsight> looks like maybe ~2" for the corners
[23:14:23] <PetefromTn_PC> probably would not want MY heart printed on that piece of shit huh LOL
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[23:16:41] <CaptHindsight> look at the heart valve at 1:11
[23:17:07] <CaptHindsight> it looks like it crashed into the part a few times
[23:18:30] <PetefromTn_PC> yeah but someone who does not understand what they are looking at thinks it is a miracle LOL.
[23:20:58] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyNd_WeGJNI hey look at this new machine I made!
[23:21:34] <PetefromTn_PC> damn that was a hard crash...
[23:26:24] <Tom_itx> somebody didn't pre test that one
[23:26:37] <PetefromTn_PC> what no air cuts hehee
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[23:33:14] <CaptHindsight> I wonder if they started from scratch on their 6-axis CAM
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[23:47:28] <XXCoder2> heys
[23:47:43] <XXCoder2> 150k cheap for mad scientists
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[23:58:17] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: video removed
[23:59:08] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: android tablet?
[23:59:16] <XXCoder2> ow crash indeed
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