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[00:16:50] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, your page is fixed
[00:17:16] <Tom_itx> nm, missed your reply above
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[01:28:52] <ssi> comcast is a ridiculously bad organization
[01:31:33] <XXCoder1> not surpised
[01:31:48] <XXCoder1> no compeition means no reason to keep lean and nice
[01:32:49] <ssi> sure... but they're worse even than that
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[01:52:24] <XXCoder1> ssi: indeed
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[02:07:04] <Jymmm> Man, reading the logs using default text editor is just... weird
[02:07:44] <Jymmm> reading using a browser is MUCH easier, and I honestly couldn't tell youwhat the difference is.
[02:08:17] <Jymmm> almost painful with the default
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[02:12:38] <Jymmm> !seen witnit
[02:12:38] <the_wench> last seen in 2014-06-17 04:24:49GMT 46:47:47 ago, saying Remote host closed the connection
[02:12:54] <Jymmm> thanks wench!
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[05:36:57] <t12> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm-tNGIWgAW9LgEHX_fu7rg
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[06:40:31] <Deejay> moin
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[09:09:14] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[12:56:30] <skunkworks> mach4 has css!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YaryFbhbjc
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[12:59:26] <archivist> html has css... so there!
[13:00:29] <Meduza> Lol :p
[13:04:45] <skunkworks> wait - is that the same?
[13:04:48] <skunkworks> ;)
[13:05:57] <archivist> High Tech Machining Language
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[15:59:47] <ssi> ugh finally got my network sorted out
[16:01:00] <zeeshan|2> apparently you can run mach4 in linux
[16:01:01] <zeeshan|2> lol
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[16:01:43] <ssi> really?
[16:01:47] <zeeshan|2> All motion control calculations are completed in the core. Mach4’s core adapts to the speed (frequency) of the motion controllers attached. Mach3 software relied on the hardware plug-in software and complex buffering schemes to ensure accuracy and coordinated motion
[16:01:48] <ssi> they must be feeling the sting of linuxcnc :)
[16:02:20] <zeeshan|2> i will continue to think linuxcnc is superior
[16:02:25] <zeeshan|2> cause #1 it's 100% customizable
[16:02:29] <zeeshan|2> i can write my own drivers for modbus
[16:02:29] <zeeshan|2> etc
[16:02:52] <Connor> #2 Its Free as in Free Beer
[16:03:07] <Connor> #3 It runs on Linux, not Windows
[16:03:14] <Connor> #4 see #3
[16:03:28] <mozmck> :)
[16:04:26] <mozmck> I think Linux will be secondary and come later for Mach4 - if at all...
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[16:10:26] <archivist> methinks the gestation period of mach4 will keep it at bay
[16:10:34] <jthornton> mack people think you have to pay for something to get something
[16:10:42] <zeeshan|2> i dont care about the free part
[16:11:05] <zeeshan|2> jthornton: yep and unfortunately linuxcnc has a steep learning curve
[16:11:16] <zeeshan|2> p.s. mach 4 interface looks like ass
[16:11:18] <zeeshan|2> still.
[16:11:35] <zeeshan|2> it went from mach 3 kindgarten programmer made interface
[16:11:48] <zeeshan|2> to mach 4 'i just learned c#'
[16:11:49] <zeeshan|2> :D
[16:12:41] <archivist> c# junior grade?
[16:12:46] <zeeshan|2> hahah
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[16:13:22] <Jymmm> mach4 in linux?
[16:13:33] <zeeshan|2> Jymmm: i might be reading this statement wrong
[16:13:47] <zeeshan|2> Mach4 is completely new software and has less than 1% of the programming code in common with Mach3. It was written from the ground up to be expandable, flexible, and extremely responsive for use with very large files on any operating system; including Windows, Apple, and Linux
[16:13:56] <Jymmm> zeeshan|2: Then put down the pitchfork and read.
[16:14:40] <Jymmm> zeeshan|2: I think it means that it can READ large files from those platforms.
[16:14:53] <zeeshan|2> wtf
[16:15:13] * archivist retains the rights to use a pitchfork
[16:15:19] <Jymmm> zeeshan|2: If you design a graphic on linux/OSX, it can read those files
[16:15:25] * zeeshan|2 slaps archivist with a frame level
[16:15:40] <Jymmm> archivist: implied, as well as optional torches
[16:15:59] * archivist pokes zeeshan|2 with a long handles pitchfork
[16:16:21] <zeeshan|2> ;[
[16:16:30] * Jymmm torches zeeshan|2 hair and grabs the marshmellows
[16:18:28] <archivist> zeeshan|2, I did spot fleabay 161334337599
[16:18:31] <mozmck> No, they claim it will run on Linux.
[16:18:51] <mozmck> they used wxWidgets for the GUI toolkit.
[16:19:03] <mozmck> uses lua for scripting now.
[16:19:17] <zeeshan|2> archivist: looks like my starrett!
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[16:44:15] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
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[16:50:48] <IchGuckLive> holiday worldwide starts or Soccer WorldCup not many posts here in the last 24hr
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[17:32:35] <Jymmm> no loss there, just restore from backups
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[17:47:04] <Loetmichel> *ha* *problem solved*. Wife complained about her Tablet logging out of the wifi every few minutes when she is on her bed... my solution:
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14984 ... now on her bed wifi analyzer says -70dB instead of -80dB... success! ... i like my CNC mill ;-)
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[17:57:54] <archivist> I like my VNA so I can test yagis :)
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[18:08:52] <_abc_> Hello. Can someone tell me if one can upgrade tcl on a ubuntu 10.04 LTS dvd linuxcnc install without making axis inoperable?
[18:09:08] <_abc_> I need to update tcl from 8.4 to 8.5 on a machine which I use for testing drivers only.
[18:09:38] <cradek> I don't know the answer to your question, but I bet you can have both installed
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[18:10:13] <_abc_> you are right, but I would like to not shake the tree is possible
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[18:10:18] <_abc_> I will install from source anyway.
[18:10:32] <cradek> install tcl from source?
[18:10:36] <cradek> that's a sure way to screw everything up
[18:10:39] <cradek> use the packages!
[18:10:42] <_abc_> Yeo
[18:10:45] <_abc_> Nope
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[18:11:03] <_abc_> No way! Real men use a compiler.
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[18:12:09] <Loetmichel> _abc_: real men use "copy con: > program.exe"
[18:12:18] <Loetmichel> ... or similar on linux ;-)
[18:12:23] <PasstScho> hm, I always thought real men would use women
[18:13:04] <Loetmichel> women at a computer? god no!
[18:13:04] <cradek> arguing about what "real men" do is both gross and stupid
[18:13:15] <Loetmichel> :-)
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[23:31:11] * Valen pokes PCW with a wonderful stick made of sugar and spice and all things nice
[23:36:10] <jdh> https://slm-assets1.secondlife.com/assets/5716656/view_large/stick%20pic.jpg?1339282253
[23:36:16] <PCW> freeby.mesanet.com/3x20_1_TP48.bit
[23:38:16] <Valen> so it all fits in the -1?
[23:38:20] <PCW> 48 tpwmgens (144 PWM outputs)
[23:38:22] <PCW> GPIO0 = PWM0A
[23:38:23] <PCW> GPIO1 = PWM0B
[23:38:25] <PCW> GPIO2 = PWM0C
[23:38:26] <PCW> GPIO3 = PWM1A
[23:38:28] <PCW> etc etc
[23:38:47] <PCW> uses 70% of a Spartan3 1M
[23:38:52] <Valen> both modes fit into it?
[23:39:12] <Valen> thats right the deadtime is smaller than the pwm
[23:39:13] <PCW> it didnt try the other mode, but its smaller
[23:39:20] <Valen> great!
[23:39:22] <Valen> thanks so much
[23:39:30] <PCW> (only 24 tpwmgens)
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[23:39:58] <Valen> makes life so much easier
[23:40:24] <Valen> is there some way I can officially compliment you with your employer?
[23:40:57] <jdh> no kidding
[23:41:16] <PCW> well since I'm self employed you can compliment me :-)
[23:42:59] <jdh> nice hair dude!
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[23:43:46] <JT-Shop> you could buy his sheep some coats...
[23:56:04] <jdh> wool sweaters?
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[23:56:44] <jdh> sheep or goats?
[23:58:19] <PCW> We have sheep but they are what are called "hair sheep" and shed their wool in the spring
[23:58:58] <PCW> so people often think they are goats
