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[00:12:30] <maZer`-> hello
[00:12:38] <maZer`-> can i invert signals
[00:12:51] <maZer`-> net test123 <= signal123 not
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[00:24:07] <pcw_home> there's a "not" component
[00:27:42] <pcw_home> loadrt not count=1
[00:27:44] <pcw_home> addf not.0 servo thread
[00:27:45] <pcw_home> net truefoo not.0.in foo
[00:27:47] <pcw_home> net notfoo not.0.out
[00:30:09] <maZer`-> before foo <=
[00:30:10] <maZer`-> correct
[00:32:05] <maZer`-> is there a reason why i cant use the motion pins ? :(
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[00:35:35] <maZer`-> ahh i see is already linked
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[00:41:26] <pcw_home> you can coneect a signal to as may pins as you like (as long as there is only one driving pin and the pins have the same type)
[00:41:39] <pcw_home> s/may/many/
[00:43:50] <maZer`-> hm
[00:43:50] <maZer`-> ok
[00:44:11] <maZer`-> also my problem is motion.spindle-on is connected to spindle-on
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[00:46:11] <maZer`-> i just wanted to use the motion.spindle-on signal inverted :I(
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[00:58:20] <XXCoder> got question
[00:58:35] <XXCoder> what dimeter is this
http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=16176
[00:59:06] <XXCoder> 3 inches? 1000? :P
[01:01:28] <pcw_home> "before foo <="
[01:01:30] <pcw_home> the => and <= are just there for looks (and ignored by the parser)
[01:03:13] <maZer`-> ok
[01:03:35] <maZer`-> i dont know how i can get it running well...
[01:03:46] <maZer`-> i will check spindle running, programm idle
[01:03:59] <maZer`-> if not open tool clamp
[01:10:02] <XXCoder> found site said its 3.5" dia okay lol
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[01:24:25] <XXCoder> need bit of advice
[01:24:36] <XXCoder> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53432577/cncidea7.png
[01:24:54] <XXCoder> seems to be bit too low or what? that router part
[01:30:48] <malcom2O73> Seems to be on a bit of a lever arm, but as long as the rods are strong enough shouldn't matter much
[01:31:38] <XXCoder> I think I do need to adjust it so its max extension would make router touch surface (ignoring collet and such)
[01:34:16] <XXCoder> maybe seperate bearing blocks too
[01:34:37] <XXCoder> more stronger but less travel. I doubt I will need more than 6 inches travel
[01:36:05] <XXCoder> or maybe better if max lowest collet would JUST hit surface
[01:36:06] <XXCoder> better?
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[01:38:16] <XXCoder> malcom2O73: see the picture? the gap between surface and gantry bottom part of box is bit over 4 inches
[01:38:22] <XXCoder> or 105mm
[01:43:17] <os1r1s> Anyone know off hand what that Chnese g540 is called?
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[01:46:16] <XXCoder> nope
[01:46:22] <XXCoder> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53432577/cncideasizes.png
[01:46:26] <XXCoder> this one has sizes
[01:46:29] <XXCoder> all mm
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[03:00:12] <pcw_home> os1r1s: mx3660
[03:01:30] <os1r1s> pcw_home: Thank you !
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[05:06:13] <maZer`-> :D
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[06:45:39] <Deejay> moin
[06:48:53] <maZer`-> moin :D
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[13:50:16] <jdh> any stepper experts around?
[13:50:30] <archivist> just ask the real question :)
[13:50:34] <jdh> I have an ancient system that drives a stepper with CW/CCW pulses with a common ground.
[13:51:30] <jdh> I want to replace it with a Compumotor Zeta drive that will accept cw/ccw and has built in optos, will the common ground screw up anything?
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[13:52:42] <archivist> doubt it
[13:52:43] <pcw_home> if the OPTOs have a common anode it might
[13:53:45] <pcw_home> are the signals 5V
[13:54:22] <jdh> I haven't measured, but the old drive (TBM105) says it uses 5v
[13:54:54] <jdh> http://www.parkermotion.com/manuals/ZETA/ZETA_Rev_A_Entire.pdf
[13:55:16] <jdh> that is the Zeta manual. P 21 has the wiring info
[13:55:33] <jdh> it does not appear to be common anode, but I'm not sure it would be shown that way.
[13:56:55] <pcw_home> they are differential so you can wire however you like
[13:57:06] <jdh> cool
[13:57:22] <pcw_home> so you should be able to make it completely compatible
[13:57:51] <jdh> someone in the past put a boost transformer on the old TBM105 to fix some problem. It's just kind of hanging off there.
[14:00:25] <jdh> this drive is massive
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[14:47:44] <Loetmichel> *gnah* *plug the ventilator in, switch it on... MUCH better...* ... i have this fan hanging above my deskl 2 years now... simply forgot it was there until now ;-)
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[15:49:49] <CaptHindsight> anyone have a bug-free touchscreen only setup with on-screen keyboard (no physical keyboard or mouse)?
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[15:51:56] <jdh> let me know if such a thing exists.
[15:52:30] <jdh> (generic, not linuxcnc)
[15:54:06] <cradek> onscreen keyboards suck.
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[16:01:34] <CaptHindsight> I'll lower the bar to usable :)
[16:03:24] <CaptHindsight> unfortunately Unity on 12.04 is giving me the best results
[16:04:31] <CaptHindsight> i haven't tried building a system using Linuxcnc and 14.04 yet, I did verify that 3.4.55 RTAI works with it
[16:05:26] <Jymmm> Unity being what?
[16:05:34] <CaptHindsight> that as far as I've gotten
[16:05:38] <pcw_home> unity on 14.04 is a bit less annoying (it allows you to put menus in the window decorations)
[16:06:05] <CaptHindsight> unity is the ubuntu gnome3 desktop for 12.04 and 14.04
[16:06:10] <Jymmm> ah
[16:06:51] <CaptHindsight> has anyone build RTAI or linuxcnc for 14.04 yet?
[16:07:23] <pcw_home> I think there are some tcl dependency issues
[16:08:49] <CaptHindsight> I can't launch Linuxcnc from the launcher in 12.04. It launches fine from a desktop icon though
[16:09:28] <CaptHindsight> there must be some launcher-foo I'm missing
[16:10:10] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: I doubt it's you.
[16:11:19] <CaptHindsight> http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/04/13/1454215/the-gnome-foundation-is-running-out-of-money looks like the people have voted :)
[16:12:36] <CaptHindsight> I couldn't launch Linuxcnc using the touchscreen in Xubuntu 12.04 (XFCE)
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[16:13:03] <CaptHindsight> only using the mouse or from command line
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[16:22:50] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdBLjj66vAo
[16:34:25] <maZer`-> hi all :D
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[16:47:35] <IchGuckLive> hi B)
[16:48:14] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: have you found a touchscreen that works well with linuxcnc?
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[16:49:20] <IchGuckLive> no sorry
[16:49:22] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obE--tDwiAs
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[16:51:46] <Jymmm> That's really sad. Google kybd for andriod works pretty good and not app specific even.
[16:52:18] <CaptHindsight> yeah, why is "onboard" for unity so buggy?
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[16:53:01] <Jymmm> ve7it: Howdy!
[16:53:17] <CaptHindsight> hmmm .... maybe an Android port for Linuxcnc
[16:55:21] <CaptHindsight> a temporary fix for when the onscreen keyboard doesn't autoomatically pop up is to have a desktop icon for onboard that may be pressed to bring it up
[16:56:03] <CaptHindsight> so far that works with everything in Axis such as entering a MDI
[16:58:49] <CaptHindsight> I tried Linux Mint Cinnamon to see if the touschscreen would be any better.... the onboard keyboard looks like it's from the 90's
[17:01:44] <CaptHindsight> has anyone tried to use Debian Sid with Linuxcnc? I'm wondering if it just works or what the problems might be
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[17:09:00] <CaptHindsight> or maybe Debian Testing, the kernel is up to 3.13
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[17:19:50] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: maliit.org
[17:23:35] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: what you need is a swipe keyboard.
[17:25:30] <cradek> CaptHindsight: use touchy, not AXIS
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[17:30:32] <Jymmm> Great... source code for google keyboard is not available
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/2/
[17:30:56] <ssi> google has a really funny definition of "open"
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[17:36:42] <Jymmm> https://www.google.com/search?q=open == Fuck You
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[17:53:52] <Jymmm> If you want to search google images directly, this is the format (Yes, you must have 'www' for it to work):
https://www.google.com/images?q=bunny
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[18:05:59] <CaptHindsight> I was thinking about using a custom gmoccapy
[18:06:04] <IchGuckLive> its sahara hot here in germany
[18:06:08] <IchGuckLive> loe
[18:06:26] <IchGuckLive> Cylly: are you melting out there
[18:06:39] <CaptHindsight> touchy lacks the graphical preview
[18:06:54] <IchGuckLive> i see some hevy thunderstorms hedding your way
[18:07:08] <IchGuckLive> we will get them tomorrow
[18:07:15] <IchGuckLive> BYE
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[18:10:11] <CaptHindsight> the first step for onscreen keyboard with touchscreen will just be proper desktop integration, it seems these Ubuntu projects get close and then stop or get worse
[18:12:16] <CaptHindsight> maybe a gamepad + touchscreen
[18:12:48] <Jymmm> No , not "desktop" intergrations, system intergration as you could use a terminal variant much like joystick
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[18:14:20] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/gmoccapy_with_right_panel_in_MDI_mode.png
[18:14:48] <Jymmm> no comment
[18:15:03] <CaptHindsight> heh
[18:15:43] <CaptHindsight> well you're free to modify the layout and color pallet
[18:16:13] <Jymmm> More like destroy all if it and start from scratch.
[18:16:20] <Jymmm> s/if/of/
[18:16:54] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Was that your creation?
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[18:17:19] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: thats right off the wiki
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Gmoccapy
[18:17:47] <CaptHindsight> I only write software as a last resort
[18:18:57] <Jymmm> Y'all are some great coders, but ya suck at UI. Now all coders sucks at docs, but that's a given and why tech writers exist =)
[18:19:38] <Jymmm> Do what you do best my lil code monkeys!!!
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[18:21:08] <Jymmm> What is the GUI framework in those examples CaptHindsight?
[18:21:11] <CaptHindsight> I think the UI's have evolved from traditional machine interfaces
[18:21:43] <Jymmm> Well, for example look at this...
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/uploads/gmoccapy_ntb_preview_maximized_2.png
[18:21:57] <Jymmm> There is HUGE unused whitespace everywhere.
[18:22:56] <Jymmm> itty bitty xyz on the left, no scaling of labels/data, the right column buttons have unused top/bottom white space that could be for fingers to touch. etc.
[18:23:27] <Jymmm> the bottom row has huge gaps of whitespace too.
[18:23:40] <Jymmm> tiny tabs at the top
[18:23:47] <CaptHindsight> well I supposedly have the latest stable Android on a Google Nexus and the phone app appears to be written by people that have never actually used phones
[18:23:55] <Jymmm> no display of UOM
[18:24:11] <Jymmm> it's a small thing, but could save some grief
[18:24:58] <Jymmm> Maybe intergarate "HOME" or JOG function into the existings items
[18:25:34] <Jymmm> tap x-rel and a numpad pops up as example
[18:25:55] <Jymmm> but give some indication that is even possible to do.
[18:26:01] <Jymmm> etc
[18:26:47] <Jymmm> I suspect it may be a limitation of the gui framework though.
[18:28:02] <Jymmm> gtk blade???
https://glade.gnome.org/images/glade-main-page.png
[18:32:22] <Jymmm> How does blade integrate into accessibility? So if someone sets theri whole system up for LARGE FONTS as example?
[18:32:41] <Jymmm> or does it?
[18:37:57] <maZer`-> does somebody can tell me best free cam software for 3d milling? :D
[18:38:07] <jdh> that's pretty funny!
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[18:38:41] <maZer`-> i mean recomment any good free 3d cam software :)
[18:39:11] <jdh> that's pretty funny too!
[18:39:30] <Jymmm> maZer`-: Keep saying free, it makes it funnier every time
[18:39:36] <maZer`-> hehe :D
[18:39:56] <Jymmm> maZer`-: same goes with 'good' you cheap bastard =)
[18:40:06] <maZer`-> xD
[18:40:24] <maZer`-> its just for learning :D
[18:40:30] <jdh> vi
[18:40:51] <jdh> or emacs if you are so inclined.
[18:40:52] <Jymmm> maZer`-: just like student loans, you pay to learn
[18:41:37] <maZer`-> hm :)
[18:42:10] <jdh> steal a copy of inventor and try HSMExpress
[18:42:31] <Jymmm> s/steal/borrow/
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[18:43:11] <miss0r> Do any of you guys know how I can avoid getting ugly edges on my pcbs when using engraving needles to do the milling?
[18:44:10] <miss0r> as in the copper rises along the milled edges
[18:44:47] <Jymmm> pic of your tooling
[18:45:08] <miss0r> you want a picture of something i've made or of the tool used to mill?
[18:45:16] <Jymmm> tooling
[18:46:10] <miss0r> one like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-x1-8-Carbide-Extra-Long-Engraving-Bit-vs-Blade-CNC-Router-Tool-30Deg-1-0mm/140735452881?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D23309%26meid%3D7502774123684557818%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D9834%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D130672532381&rt=nc
[18:46:51] <Jymmm> http://www.thinktink.com/stack/volumes/voli/store/mechmill.htm
[18:47:30] <Jymmm> http://www.precisebits.com/applications/pcbtools.htm
[18:48:30] <Jymmm> http://www.precisebits.com/products/carbidebits/scoreengrave.asp
[18:49:00] <miss0r> So, this is what I need to do a proper job?
[18:49:23] <_methods> i use .6mm end mill for mine
[18:49:26] * skunkworks_ has had better luck with what Jymmm posted..
[18:49:26] <Jymmm> what you have is an engraver's bit
[18:49:51] <Jymmm> like engraving on a flask
[18:49:59] <Jymmm> or cigar lighter
[18:50:01] <miss0r> indeed. I was told it would do fine for pcb
[18:50:12] <Jymmm> miss0r: they lied =)
[18:50:14] <_methods> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-0-0237-0-6mm-Carbide-End-Mill-Engraving-Bits-CNC-PCB-Machinery-1-8-shank-/221367264985?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338a8466d9
[18:50:29] <miss0r> it seems so.
[18:50:51] <CaptHindsight> for now I'm just trying to get Linuxcnc working/usable with all the control/driver hardware in the space of a touschscreen
[18:50:53] <Jymmm> miss0r:
http://www.timeguy.com/cradek/cnc/pcb
[18:50:55] <_methods> those v bits seem to lift the pcb edges
[18:51:43] <miss0r> indeed.
[18:52:05] <miss0r> *sigh* here I am again trying to convert inches to mm :)
[18:52:15] <Jymmm> maybe cradek or jepler can give soem insight.
[18:52:56] <miss0r> x*2,54 is close enough for my work ;)
[18:53:17] <miss0r> Should I go for the 30degree or the 60?
[18:53:32] <Jymmm> miss0r: Read the link I gave
[18:53:39] <miss0r> alright. thanks
[18:54:21] <Jymmm> there is a pic of the results too
[18:54:31] <Jymmm> YMMV of course
[18:56:14] <Jymmm> glade custom widgets is XML based, and widget adapter looks to be c/c++ based *sigh*
[18:57:05] <Jymmm> This isn't a python nomenclature, is it? #define GWA_DEFAULT_WIDTH(obj)
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[19:01:43] <Jymmm> ah, c code.
[19:02:18] <Jymmm> but there is mention of "class". are there classes in C? I thought only c++
[19:02:27] <miss0r> Jymmm; I can't seem to figure out the shaft diameter of the toolks i'm looking at here
[19:02:39] <Jymmm> miss0r: link?
[19:03:11] <miss0r> http://www.precisebits.com/products/carbidebits/scoreengrave.asp
[19:03:33] <Jymmm> Shank dia. - 0.1250 in. (3.18 mm) +0.00, -0.0002 in.
[19:03:42] <Jymmm> 1/8" shank
[19:04:00] <Jymmm> left side, 5th bullet down
[19:04:10] <miss0r> meh. next time I will look under 'specs'. thanks
[19:04:16] <Jymmm> =)
[19:04:21] <Jymmm> eh, shit happens
[19:05:05] <Jymmm> miss0r: Tutotial
http://www.precisebits.com/tutorials/pcb_mech_etch.htm
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[19:06:48] <Jymmm> miss0r: Also says 0.125" shank in red inside the yellow bar ---> PreciseBIT 2-flute, Micro-engraving, PCB Traces Isolation Bits (EM2E8) - (0.125" shank )
[19:08:34] <Jymmm> miss0r: If you have a lot of info on a webpage and you are looking for something specific, hit CTRL+F and type in the word you are looking for on the page.
[19:09:11] <Jymmm> hit CTRL+G to find aGain, (aka find the next occurance)
[19:09:27] <miss0r> indeed. I know these things; I just had a brainfart
[19:09:38] <miss0r> But thanks, thou
[19:09:56] <Jymmm> doesn't help to know if you dont use em =)
[19:10:21] <Jymmm> Especially since those work on win/mac/linux
[19:10:29] <miss0r> My brain is in idle mode: i'm in the army reserve, and yesterday we had a 30 mile march with 40 pounds on our backs... i'm a bit worn out today
[19:10:56] <Jymmm> That's it? only 40lbs?
[19:11:41] <Jymmm> 30 miles, oh come on, could get that done in an hour,
[19:11:42] <miss0r> yeah. other than that you have water, your rifle and standard equipment. the 40 pounds is just to make your life a bit harder
[19:12:03] <miss0r> My feet disagree ;)
[19:12:09] <Jymmm> That's just a freindly stroll
[19:12:20] <Jymmm> =)
[19:12:27] <miss0r> lets never have a friendly stroll, then ;)
[19:12:47] <Jymmm> water? I'd have dumped in some gatoraid in there myself
[19:13:00] <Jymmm> the packets packet 32ox at a time
[19:13:08] <miss0r> I eat salted peanuts.
[19:13:12] <Jymmm> dissolve easily too
[19:13:20] <miss0r> salt and water.
[19:13:31] <Cylly> Jymmm: 30 miles in one hour? you should get enliste für the olymic team! ;-)
[19:14:05] <miss0r> we finished just short of 10 hours
[19:14:11] <Jymmm> Cylly: Nah, they are too slow
[19:14:23] <Cylly> 10 hours is a bit much though
[19:14:45] <miss0r> perhaps if you go by road - we did that too, but as much as possible we did terrain
[19:15:12] <miss0r> "You know, son, if the enemy is here there will be no roads" - stg. asshole
[19:15:33] <Cylly> iirc our marches in german army were with 35kg of backpack, plus rifle. ant then we had to hit less than 6 hrs for 30km
[19:15:45] <Jymmm> miss0r: PLUS, if you buy the gatorade packets, you can sell them to others too
[19:16:20] <miss0r> Cylly: indeed. but keep in mind 30 miles =! 30 km
[19:16:39] <Cylly> but luckily i was at the navvy, so no marches for me other than basic training ;-)
[19:17:13] <miss0r> I was in logistics before I became an electrician.
[19:17:25] <miss0r> I used to drive an armored veicle
[19:17:50] <miss0r> not much running/marching involved.
[19:18:16] <Cylly> <- was sonar operator on a sub-hunter (small 70 meters boat with torpedoes)
[19:18:45] <miss0r> I thought about joining the navy back then. but then I remembered the Danish navy is a joke
[19:19:13] <Cylly> <- had laughed hard on the combined training with the americans. where our subs had "shot down" the whole carrier group without been detected once ;-)
[19:19:31] <Jymmm> miss0r: each packet makes 32oz coems in a bag
http://www.amazon.com/Gatorade-Perform-02-Powder-Packet/dp/B004ZMY0YG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1402341529&sr=8-8&keywords=gatorade+powder
[19:19:46] <CaptHindsight> boy you kids had it easy back in my day we had load the wagons and .....
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[19:20:08] <miss0r> Jymmm: not a bad idea, except I wouldn't want to put anything but water in my containers. I use camelbak
[19:20:10] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: ... attach the horses to the wagon?
[19:20:11] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[19:20:51] <Jymmm> miss0r: I understand, but might search around and see what others are doing. it might not be a bad thing.
[19:20:53] <CaptHindsight> horses! I wish we had horses :)
[19:21:08] <Jymmm> miss0r: maybe ppl add flavorings to camelbacks
[19:21:13] <Jymmm> many*
[19:21:21] <Loetmichel> whats a camelback?
[19:21:29] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: google it
[19:21:30] <miss0r> Loetmichel: CaptHindsight had the worst job of all. not only did he have to get up at 03:30 every morning to feed the horses, his primary function was to put the canonball into the barrel of the blackpouder prior to battle
[19:21:44] <miss0r> Loetmichel: cammelbak
[19:21:54] <Jymmm> miss0r: your muscles will thank you for the added electrolytes and minerals
[19:22:18] <miss0r> Jymmm: I filled up on all sorts of stuff when I got home ;)
[19:22:30] <Jymmm> miss0r: pro atheletes are now going to pedilite over gatorade
[19:22:32] <CaptHindsight> 3:30!, we had to wake up 2 hours before went to bed :)
[19:22:49] <Jymmm> miss0r: you want to replenish as you go, not "after the fact"
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[19:23:39] <Loetmichel> ah, literally a camel backpack
[19:23:41] <Loetmichel> i see
[19:23:42] <bertrik> CaptHindsight: and lick the road clean?
[19:23:44] <miss0r> Jymm: well. it will be 6 months before the next march. I shall try to remember there
[19:23:55] <Loetmichel> we had just the usual aluminium bottles on the belt
[19:24:05] <Jymmm> miss0r: and sell each packet to other for $5 =)
[19:24:18] <Loetmichel> Jymmm:you are greedy ;-)
[19:24:24] <miss0r> Loetmichel: Quite nice to have. you have a hose/straw to drink from - that makes it easy enough for you to do so you won't forget to hydrate
[19:24:35] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: What, all they are goin g to do is drink ber anyway =)
[19:24:57] <miss0r> Jymmm: You make it sound like we have a choise?
[19:24:58] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: as it it miss0r fault that others didn't think of it?
[19:25:18] <Jymmm> miss0r: choice of beer =)
[19:25:38] <Loetmichel> surprisingly: i had to ditch my last sixpack beer. was a year over the "best before" date
[19:25:51] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Besides, not like miss0r is holding a gun to their head
[19:26:06] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: charging $5 for a pack that costs a few cent seems greedy to me
[19:26:23] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: supply and demand baby =)
[19:26:28] <miss0r> Jymmm: There we go - 4 mill bits ordered ;)
[19:26:39] <Jymmm> 50 miles from nowhere =)
[19:26:45] <Loetmichel> still greedy
[19:26:55] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: miss0r gotta pay for thour pcb bits somehow =)
[19:26:57] <Loetmichel> it will get paid, still you are on the greedy side ;-)
[19:27:15] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: Not greedy, $10 would be greedy =)
[19:27:24] <Jymmm> miss0r: so charge $8 instead =)
[19:27:38] <Loetmichel> if you say so. my opinion is a bit different
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[19:27:56] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: It's $1.50 each anyway, not really that much profit
[19:28:02] <miss0r> holy. We are a small unit of 10 people. We share everything and get together often for beer. I could never charge them for energy on a march
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[19:28:20] <Loetmichel> miss0r: thats my kind of guy ;-)
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[19:29:04] <miss0r> yesterdays march ended here at my place for grill and beer around the campire till early morning
[19:29:05] <Loetmichel> btw: beer is a surprisingly good isotonic drink!
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[19:29:19] <miss0r> campire=campfire*
[19:31:00] <miss0r> almost done milling! I made 10 small brass plates with our group logo on it. aprox 5x30mm
[19:44:33] <miss0r> i'm out. see you
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[20:25:33] <jdh> sounds bogus to me.
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[21:08:14] * JT-Shop notices cutting stainless steel on the plasma table makes lots of brown gook
[21:08:48] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: can you send your plasma down our clogs drains
[21:09:06] <Jymmm> it might feel at home with the brown gook
[21:09:16] <Jymmm> (heavy sigh)
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[21:12:05] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140609-inventor-of-filamaker-creates-a-3d-printed-pla-kitchen-waste-shredder.html
[21:12:48] <CaptHindsight> bad 3d printer story of the day, with waste as the topic, i wonder if it can shred itself?
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[21:13:53] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: i wanted to build a small pipe camera bot anyways
[21:14:03] <JT-Shop> Jymmm, it gets used over and over
[21:14:13] <Loetmichel> mybe i should get tinkering there
[21:14:40] <Loetmichel> so you can look at the clog and use a high pressure cleaner to "unclog" it?
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[21:21:41] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: hmm
[21:22:06] <Loetmichel> a shredder is made out of very hard steel for a reason
[21:22:41] <CaptHindsight> probably overkill for cheese
[21:22:42] <Loetmichel> i would think even with organics (and no occasional bone in it) the schredding discs will wear very quickly ;)
[21:23:45] <CaptHindsight> more of a chopped salad maker than shredder
[21:24:17] <t12> but but but
[21:24:18] <Loetmichel> right
[21:24:20] <t12> the future of industry
[21:24:23] <t12> and manufacturing
[21:24:28] <t12> and distributed etc etc etc etc
[21:24:39] <Loetmichel> bullshit bingo?
[21:24:49] <CaptHindsight> the future is chopped salad
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[21:25:04] <t12> we're empowering local communities through decentralized democratized plastic upcycling
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[21:25:22] <Loetmichel> hmm
[21:25:35] <t12> that should be
[21:25:41] <t12> empowering micro-gastronomy
[21:27:55] <CaptHindsight> there were some worse ones today but I can't bear to even pass the links along :)
[21:29:06] <andypugh> I wonder if I am breaking any laws by making this?
http://bodgesoc.blogspot.co.uk (not the forge, the thing I made with the forge)
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[21:34:26] <zeeshan> andypugh: is that your blog?
[21:34:38] <andypugh> Aye, that is be.
[21:35:28] <zeeshan> i like the fancy machining you do
[21:35:28] <zeeshan> :D
[21:35:36] <zeeshan> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jVxYBlmprbw/U2QE5ZNgkLI/AAAAAAAADZ8/bPzXFJGWZcQ/s1600/IMG_1183.jpg
[21:35:38] <zeeshan> like that
[21:36:03] <Jymmm> $250 to snake the pipes via roof vent and no warranty?!
[21:36:24] <CaptHindsight> that'll cost you $500
[21:36:45] <andypugh> I use the lathe for lots of things that normal folk would do with a mill.
[21:36:51] <zeeshan> andypugh: me too
[21:36:57] <zeeshan> mainly because my first real machine was a lathe
[21:37:06] <zeeshan> suprisngly, the lathe can do a LOT!!
[21:37:07] <zeeshan> and faster.
[21:37:15] <jthornton> andypugh very nice
[21:37:16] <andypugh> Yes, I have been using a lathe for 40 years and a mill for 5 years :-)
[21:37:23] <zeeshan> 10 for lathe
[21:37:27] <zeeshan> 1 year for mill
[21:37:27] <zeeshan> ;
[21:38:05] <andypugh> I started using a lathe when I was 7. I was cheaper than a power feed :_0
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[21:38:21] <zeeshan> so you're 47? :p
[21:38:35] <zeeshan> ol fart
[21:39:05] <andypugh> The strange thing is, I am sure I used to be young!
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[21:44:59] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: swapped out the stepper motor in a IACV, 2 weeks later it shorts out and takes the mosfets in the ECU along with it since they don't believe in current overload protection
[21:45:12] <zeeshan> aww
[21:45:12] <zeeshan> =/
[21:45:23] <zeeshan> CaptHindsight: that is a vcery common happening
[21:45:33] <zeeshan> what car?
[21:45:40] <CaptHindsight> Nissan
[21:45:48] <CaptHindsight> awful design
[21:45:54] <zeeshan> most cars are like that
[21:46:00] <zeeshan> these arent industrial plcs
[21:46:01] <zeeshan> :)
[21:46:03] <CaptHindsight> along with the active motor mounts
[21:46:15] <zeeshan> the only shitty part about replacing an ecu is
[21:46:22] <zeeshan> the engine immoblizer code non sense
[21:46:30] <CaptHindsight> just replacing the mosfets
[21:46:34] <zeeshan> oh
[21:46:55] <CaptHindsight> found a tool to reflash the immobilizer as well
[21:47:19] <CaptHindsight> I'd like to RE the whole ECU just to stick it to Nissan
[21:47:32] <zeeshan> nistune
[21:47:51] <Loetmichel> andypugh: having scrolled through your blog the last half hour... you begin to amaze me ;-)
[21:48:08] <Loetmichel> <- lifts imaginary hat
[21:48:47] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: the swap was just for preventative maintenance, was more insured destruction :)
[21:48:57] <CaptHindsight> insured/assured
[21:49:54] <CaptHindsight> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gph7ASFI8GQ/U5S7rAH5ZKI/AAAAAAAADmM/Omg-sOtrNbI/s1600/IMG_1314.jpg ?
[21:50:06] <zeeshan> mabn
[21:50:07] <zeeshan> i love ebay
[21:50:16] <zeeshan> im selling this weird ass component i found in a toolbox purchase
[21:50:17] <zeeshan> it was brand new
[21:50:23] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/261495210903?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
[21:50:28] <zeeshan> it actually has a bid on it
[21:50:28] <zeeshan> haha
[21:50:59] <zeeshan> no idea what machine its from
[21:51:00] <zeeshan> ;p
[21:51:16] <CaptHindsight> somebody must have one :)
[21:51:28] <zeeshan> now im gonna start listing
[21:51:34] <zeeshan> all my items that i think are 'rare'
[21:51:47] <zeeshan> rare as in 'not someone the major public would want'
[21:51:55] <zeeshan> ie application specific gears
[21:51:56] <zeeshan> etc
[21:52:04] <zeeshan> maybe somoene needs em
[21:53:49] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: Yes. Curiously few of my friends recognised it. I think Americans might recognise it more.
[21:53:59] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: these blow up good
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6121/ecunotes.jpg
[21:54:21] <zeeshan> those look like a pain in the butt to change
[21:54:50] <CaptHindsight> nah, I had a soldering iron in my hands before I could walk :)
[21:55:03] <CaptHindsight> hot little buggers
[21:55:06] <zeeshan> if its surface mount stuff
[21:55:09] <zeeshan> i have no skills :P
[21:55:19] <zeeshan> if its pin hole stuff
[21:55:22] <zeeshan> i can handle it
[21:55:33] <CaptHindsight> it's the inline STA509A's
[21:55:38] <zeeshan> OH
[21:55:41] <zeeshan> thats easy to change
[21:55:42] <zeeshan> :D
[21:55:50] <zeeshan> i thought it was the chip that the red lines are pointing to
[21:55:55] <CaptHindsight> and new pcb traces
[21:56:09] <CaptHindsight> vs $1400 for a new ecu
[21:56:24] <zeeshan> you can get it from a junkyard :P
[21:56:25] <andypugh> I found out a while ago that vehicle ECUs are not reverse-polarity protected.
[21:56:28] <zeeshan> what year car eactrly?
[21:56:36] <zeeshan> andypugh: they're cheapo systems
[21:56:43] <CaptHindsight> what a way to stick it to owners long after the warranty expires
[21:56:50] <andypugh> Unfortunately this was a development/emulated module, $15,000
[21:57:03] <Loetmichel> andypugh: hmmm
[21:57:05] <zeeshan> tell me CaptHindsight!!
[21:57:15] <Loetmichel> supply from hell and no reverse polarty protecion?
[21:57:17] <CaptHindsight> 01
[21:57:22] <Loetmichel> the car desingers have balls...
[21:57:26] <zeeshan> 2001 what
[21:57:36] <CaptHindsight> maxima
[21:57:58] <andypugh> Typically you can only reach the battery terminal with the correct battery lead.
[21:58:06] <zeeshan> automatic or manual
[21:58:18] <CaptHindsight> auto, no traction control
[21:58:22] <andypugh> But I was working on a test rig with croc-clips
[21:58:28] <CaptHindsight> 3.0
[21:58:38] <zeeshan> my internets says
[21:58:44] <zeeshan> $50
[21:58:46] <zeeshan> for a used one
[21:58:54] <zeeshan> $100 tested
[21:58:55] <zeeshan> :D
[21:59:01] <CaptHindsight> saw that up in the great white north
[21:59:01] <zeeshan> http://car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?userSearch=int&userPID=1000&userLocation=USA&userIMS=&userInterchange=BF%3D%3DB&userSide=&userDate=2001&userDate2=2001&dbModel=54.24.1.1&userModel=Nissan%20Maxima%20%281982%20Up%29&dbPart=590.1&userPart=Computer%20Box%20Engine&sessionID=600000000000000000231326784&userPreference=price&userIntSelect=883752&userUID=0&userBroker=&iKey=&userPage=2
[21:59:07] <zeeshan> i dunno if you can see that page
[21:59:30] <zeeshan> regardless youre better off replacing the chip
[21:59:31] <CaptHindsight> yeah, i have spares now :)
[21:59:38] <zeeshan> cause you dont have to deal with bullshit immoblizer reflashing
[21:59:44] <CaptHindsight> fleabay $30
[21:59:46] <zeeshan> which only the dealership can do or you gotta buy nistune for $500
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[22:00:05] <CaptHindsight> I have a package for $70 that does it
[22:00:20] <zeeshan> nice
[22:00:25] <CaptHindsight> some Australia tuner package
[22:00:43] <CaptHindsight> and the pin# was the same for all 2000-01
[22:00:50] <CaptHindsight> they got fancy in 02'
[22:01:00] <CaptHindsight> more than one PIN #
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[22:01:22] <t12> http://i.imgur.com/6RpTZgI.gif
[22:01:32] <andypugh> A dealer shouldn’t charge much for a re-synch. That isn’t to say that they won’t, but they shouldn’t.
[22:02:02] <CaptHindsight> around here it's $100-200 for immobilizer programming
[22:03:03] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: I still have to get around to importing used non ECU 4 cylinder diesels
[22:03:09] <zeeshan> yea it was 150$ for my car
[22:03:14] <zeeshan> i just bought the ecu flashing kit for 200
[22:03:37] <zeeshan> now i by pass all the egr and evap nonsense codes
[22:03:42] <zeeshan> =p
[22:03:47] <andypugh> Diesels _with_ ECUs work a whole lot better though.
[22:03:50] <zeeshan> and run leaner!
[22:03:53] <CaptHindsight> yeah, considering the same
[22:04:18] <andypugh> EGR isn’t all bad, you know.
[22:04:22] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: didn't they get fancy with ECU and engine matching?
[22:04:26] <zeeshan> fak agr
[22:04:27] <zeeshan> *egr
[22:04:38] <zeeshan> the environment needs more NOx.
[22:04:39] <CaptHindsight> or ECU would be better
[22:05:11] <zeeshan> sorry im old school
[22:05:15] <CaptHindsight> maybe a open ECU or at least one you can not worry about the immobilizer one
[22:05:17] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: Ah, you want to import just the engines? You probably need them as a unit with the loom anyway, and the acessory drive will always be a horribe job to re-engineer.
[22:05:20] <zeeshan> my 93 rx7 doesnt need any emissions stuff on it
[22:05:53] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: I could probably sell a ship full for retrofits
[22:06:02] <andypugh> http://xkcd.com/1379/
[22:06:27] <zeeshan> andypugh: its okay
[22:06:29] <zeeshan> ill be dead by then
[22:06:30] <zeeshan> :D
[22:06:54] <andypugh> And that is why nothing is going to be done, and the cockroaches get their turn.
[22:07:00] <zeeshan> yessir
[22:07:05] <zeeshan> to be real honest with you
[22:07:10] <zeeshan> cars are part of the problem.
[22:07:24] <zeeshan> if you look at the emissions numbers totalling all the cars in the world
[22:07:29] <zeeshan> and compare them to the industrial sector
[22:07:37] <zeeshan> you'll notice car co2 emissions make up like 15% for co2
[22:07:54] <t12> noone ever wants to talk about
[22:07:58] <andypugh> The car is possibly the worst environmental disaster of all time, on some levels.
[22:07:59] <t12> the amount that goes into fertalizer
[22:08:07] <zeeshan> andypugh: i disagree
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[22:08:25] <zeeshan> the worst environment disaster is the human being
[22:08:37] <CaptHindsight> well the conservatives anyway :)
[22:08:49] <zeeshan> t12: for every coal plant the USA closes
[22:08:53] <zeeshan> china opens 5
[22:09:04] <zeeshan> at least thats what the stat said back a couple years ago
[22:09:06] <t12> lets go to war and stop the coal plants
[22:09:19] <andypugh> Well, yes, but without us life is doomed anyway. At least there is a chance we can make up for it all by getting life off-planet :-)
[22:09:26] <CaptHindsight> well it's their turn now the west had their way the past 100 years
[22:09:26] <zeeshan> on my regular dialy driver car
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[22:09:31] <t12> yeahi say
[22:09:33] <zeeshan> i have a catalyitic convertor (3 way)
[22:09:36] <t12> we just gotta make it into orbit
[22:09:41] <CaptHindsight> that's the attitude in China
[22:09:41] <zeeshan> but on my race car, fuck will i ever put a catalytic converter on it
[22:09:42] <t12> then we can play ever expanding economy for much longer
[22:09:56] <zeeshan> andypugh: just like you wont have a cat on your nerf-a-car
[22:09:56] <zeeshan> :P
[22:10:31] <zeeshan> ner-a-car i mean
[22:10:47] <zeeshan> ive personally gone to india
[22:10:50] <zeeshan> and china.
[22:10:52] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: I have some sympathy with their viewpoint, and they _still_ have far lower per-capita emissions that the US (or the UK)
[22:10:54] <zeeshan> you can't fucking breathe!
[22:11:00] <zeeshan> the sky is BROWN
[22:11:17] <t12> cut to: the industrial revolution
[22:11:24] <andypugh> Yeah, London was like that 50 years ago.
[22:11:27] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: you should go in winter, it's more grey
[22:11:51] <andypugh> I have only been to China in winter. It was quite nice.
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[22:11:59] <zeeshan> mainland china or hong kng
[22:12:04] <zeeshan> cause there is a huge difference
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[22:12:41] <andypugh> The Ner-a-Car doesn’t have a Cat. But my main bike (the R1) does, and I have felt no urge at all to remove any of the emissions stuff, or fit a louder exhaust.
[22:12:52] <andypugh> I went to Qingdao
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[22:13:14] <zeeshan> andypugh: as you probably know a cat only works within +/- 5% of 14.7:1 for gasoline
[22:13:20] <zeeshan> on the race car, im close to 11.8:1
[22:13:27] <zeeshan> since it's WOT most of the time
[22:13:30] <andypugh> Because a) it is quite fast enough and b) I don’t want anyone to notice how fast it is :-)
[22:13:33] <zeeshan> it burns up cats and clogs em
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[22:14:07] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: did they make a mechanical fuel injection small 4 cylinder diesel there?
[22:14:16] <andypugh> zeeshan: They _can_ work. Diesels run fantastically lean and their cats work.
[22:14:31] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: They made millions.
[22:14:32] <CaptHindsight> old VW diesel engines here for for $2K worn out
[22:14:42] <zeeshan> andypugh: well the leaner you get the more inefficient they become
[22:14:51] <zeeshan> and the richer you get, the hotter they run, and blow up
[22:14:51] <zeeshan> :D
[22:14:59] <andypugh> I think that probably depends on the cat.
[22:15:10] <zeeshan> i only have expeirence with 3 way cats on gasoline
[22:15:24] <zeeshan> i know very little about diesel. mainly from class
[22:15:30] <andypugh> And I don’t actually do emissions work at all. I mainly do noise.
[22:15:54] <zeeshan> you're a master acoustic impedance guy then!
[22:16:06] <zeeshan> i took this 'noise analysis & control' class
[22:16:07] <DaViruz> diesel engines (diesel pumps specifically) and automatic transmissinos are not engineered, they are brewed in a pot by a witch living near the top of a mountain
[22:16:10] <zeeshan> it was my favourite
[22:17:23] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: maybe I should just import them from Canada
[22:17:31] <zeeshan> import what?
[22:17:50] <CaptHindsight> 4 cyl diesel engines
[22:17:59] <zeeshan> no
[22:18:14] <zeeshan> your main option would be like a VW tdi engine
[22:18:22] <zeeshan> but if you source from uk or europe, you can get all sorts of fancy stuff
[22:18:35] <zeeshan> all depends on how many you want
[22:18:41] <zeeshan> and power specs
[22:18:56] <CaptHindsight> a few thousand should keep me busy
[22:19:39] <CaptHindsight> or until the EPA gets upset about there being too many retrofits
[22:19:39] <andypugh> a friend just died
[22:19:46] <andypugh> goodnight
[22:19:51] <zeeshan> eek
[22:19:54] <zeeshan> =/
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[22:21:14] <CaptHindsight> zeeshan: used 1995 tdi engines are ~$1700 on car-part.com in the USA, $500 from Canada
[22:21:24] <CaptHindsight> as an example
[22:21:33] <zeeshan> im suprised
[22:21:37] <zeeshan> usa stuff is usually cheaper :D
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[22:22:28] <CaptHindsight> they did a good job of keeping high mpg diesels off the roads here
[22:22:38] <CaptHindsight> so they are hard to find
[22:23:30] <CaptHindsight> there's an outfit that imports japanese engines here, they do swaps for cheap
[22:23:49] <CaptHindsight> but no diesels
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[22:25:23] <Loetmichel> why not?
[22:25:36] <Loetmichel> diesels are rhe simpler engines i think
[22:25:54] <CaptHindsight> not many japanese diesel cars were imported here
[22:26:03] <CaptHindsight> they kept it from happening
[22:26:06] <Loetmichel> even my turbocharged 6zyl is not as complex as its gasoline counterpart
[22:26:24] <CaptHindsight> they wanted everyone driving low mileage SUV's
[22:27:14] <CaptHindsight> thats why the emmisions standard was specifically written to not allow the high mileage diesels common in Europe to reach the US
[22:27:47] <CaptHindsight> the max sulfur standard is too low
[22:29:35] <Loetmichel> that is a problem for the fuel suppliers, not the engine makers?
[22:29:48] <Loetmichel> and high mileage?
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[22:30:26] <Loetmichel> my omega bareley gets up to 25mpg
[22:30:39] <Loetmichel> if i drive VERY careful i can get it up to 30
[22:32:56] <Loetmichel> https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/detail/442560.html
[22:33:40] <Loetmichel> the same car with a 2,5 liter gasoline engine is much worse, though
[22:33:42] <CaptHindsight> hard to find an Opel here made after 1980
[22:34:00] <Loetmichel> CaptHindsight: america?
[22:34:09] <CaptHindsight> yes
[22:35:02] <Loetmichel> then look for a cadillac catera
[22:35:04] <Loetmichel> same car
[22:35:19] <Loetmichel> but i think they didnt sell the station wagon there
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[22:37:22] <Loetmichel> which is the mode sold most in germany
[22:37:30] <Loetmichel> to contractors mostly
[22:37:38] <Loetmichel> because its a storage wonder
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[22:37:58] <Loetmichel> which pissed off opel so much that they cancelled it
[22:38:45] <Loetmichel> they wanted to get "high class" customers from BMW and merc... ... and got only workers.
[22:38:46] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[22:43:23] <CaptHindsight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadillac_Catera
[22:44:25] <CaptHindsight> gas only version
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[22:48:05] <Jymmmm> theoretically, could lcnc "handoff" a job to a mesa board to run, and then shut down lcnc while the mesa does the job?
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[22:48:31] <andypugh> Not with Hostmot2
[22:48:52] <jymmm> becasue it requires feedback?
[22:48:53] <andypugh> I think that one of the other Mesa firmwares is more “standalone”
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[22:49:30] <jymmm> andypugh: hostmot2 being the thing that the fpga loads?
[22:49:38] <andypugh> Yes
[22:49:41] <jymmm> k
[22:50:23] <jymmm> Ok, but in prectical theory, could it be done fairly easily?
[22:50:45] <jymmm> or fairly straight forrward
[22:51:33] <andypugh> http://www.mesanet.com/pdf/motion/softdmc.pdf
[22:52:30] <jymmm> andypugh: would that mimic the features/functionality of lcnc?
[22:52:43] <andypugh> I have no idea at all.
[22:52:51] <andypugh> You would have to read the manual
[22:53:22] <jymmm> I'm looking but doesn't say what they are compared to lcnc
[22:53:34] <andypugh> I think it is different.
[22:53:47] <jymmm> hmmm pascal
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[22:54:28] <jymmm> andypugh: you unerstand what I'm getting at?
[22:54:44] <andypugh> You want a Smoothstepper?
[22:55:15] <jymmm> I hate USB. Now ethernet is another story =)
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[23:21:01] <CaptHindsight> http://www.bananapi.org/p/product.html "A highend Pi only for Target US$29.99" not sure what that means in English
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[23:28:31] <SpeedEvil> Similar to a Pi, but way faster.
[23:29:06] <CaptHindsight> A20 in a almost Pi form factor and pinout
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