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[00:09:30] <CaptHindsight> anyone know what version of debian works with sebs debs?
[00:12:24] <XXCoder1> fuck fridays
[00:12:47] <XXCoder1> I hate fridays. bad traffic. hour and half long drive when normally 32 min
[00:14:37] <jdh> I left at noon to avoid that.
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[00:16:00] <XXCoder1> Cant do early bah lol
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[00:39:09] <andypugh> if halcmd doesn’t work, but sudo halcmd does, because the first version can’t open shared memory, does anyone know the fix?
[00:39:31] <andypugh> (the same is probably true of LinuxCNC too)
[00:41:57] <cradek> I think that's a rtai configuration problem
[00:42:02] <cradek> there should be udev rules
[00:42:07] <cradek> let me see if I can find it
[00:42:46] <cradek> andypugh: congrats on your magneto and first run
[00:42:52] <maZer`-> ok
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[00:43:10] <andypugh> cradek: The permissions problem is maZer there
[00:43:40] <maZer`-> :(
[00:44:20] <andypugh> I bolted the engine in last night, I am very close to having a vehicle. Not one with any brakes, but brakes are over-rated. Or a seat. I actually quite like seats.
[00:44:25] <cradek> /etc/udev/rules.d/99-rtai.rules
[00:44:53] <maZer`-> ohh this file is not exist :(
[00:45:09] <cradek> what kernel and rtai install is this?
[00:45:13] <maZer`-> 3.4.55
[00:45:15] <maZer`-> rtai2
[00:45:36] <andypugh> (Precise / Buildbot)
[00:45:44] <cradek> $ dpkg -S 99-rtai.rules
[00:45:44] <cradek> rtai-modules-3.4.55-rtai-2: /etc/udev/rules.d/99-rtai.rules
[00:45:59] <cradek> I don't know why you don't have that. it's in the package.
[00:46:30] <maZer`-> can i extract it?
[00:47:11] <cradek> you should figure out what's wrong instead
[00:47:31] <cradek> don't hack around the package manager
[00:47:42] <cradek> do you have that package installed? if so what version?
[00:49:41] <maZer`-> also i upgraded from 10.0 to 12
[00:49:49] <maZer`-> and was not able to install the modules-rtai
[00:49:57] <maZer`-> because old version was installed. also removed with apt
[00:50:01] <maZer`-> and installed new package
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[02:48:49] <Connor> wOOt. Just used my Router for the first time in over a year 1/2
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[02:50:33] <Connor> Having some issues with the X home / limits .. I either have a bad connection / wire, or it's getting EMF.. It'll trip for no reason for just a split second.
[02:51:35] <pcw_home> NO or NC switch?
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[02:54:05] <Connor> Photo interrupt with a schmitt trigger
[02:54:30] <andypugh> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/debounce.9.html
[02:54:45] <Connor> yea.. I have that...
[02:55:09] <andypugh> In that case you may need a proper solution
[02:55:20] <Connor> what is the delay value in ?
[02:55:26] <Connor> ns? ms?
[02:55:26] <andypugh> threads
[02:55:58] <Connor> I've got it set to something like 500
[02:56:12] <andypugh> That’s quite long
[02:56:24] <Connor> yea.. I was trying to debug.
[02:56:25] <andypugh> I have it at 3!
[02:57:27] <Connor> it's something beyond the schmitt, I have LED's wired in too.. and they're not showing that's it's tripped.
[02:57:52] <Connor> gotta be a loose wire or connection from the PCB to the BOB
[02:58:18] <Connor> I'll track it down next time.. :)
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[04:09:05] <XXCoder1> hey Connor that long?
[04:09:19] <Connor> Yea. Been working on my Mill. and life..
[04:09:26] <XXCoder1> cool :)
[04:09:33] <XXCoder1> I lucked out yeserday :D
[04:09:57] <Connor> jhow so ?
[04:10:08] <XXCoder1> got pile of wood sheets and this THICK slab of wood from fancy table. there was HUGE sheets of plywood as part of pallets too but too big for my car bahh
[04:10:26] <XXCoder1> its inch thick and plenty large for my cnc y axis :)
[04:11:18] <XXCoder1> so I now has good wood for all 3 axes.
[04:11:22] <XXCoder1> axis
[04:12:40] <Connor> Cool
[04:12:56] <XXCoder1> yeah
[04:13:08] <XXCoder1> it'll be bit weird though
[04:13:17] <XXCoder1> its from very expensive meeting type table
[04:13:24] <XXCoder1> so it has this fancy wood pattern lol
[04:13:36] <Connor> what was wrong with it ?
[04:13:51] <XXCoder1> dunno the part was in wood scrap bin
[04:13:57] <Connor> Wow.
[04:14:06] <Connor> Would think they would cut it down and use it for something else.
[04:14:09] <XXCoder1> yeah. inch thick jeez
[04:14:26] <XXCoder1> its sawdust type so not really useful that way
[04:14:46] <Connor> I routed out 30 .77" holes in 1.5" thick plywood (2 x .75" I laminated myself)
[04:14:48] <XXCoder1> but still very thick and rigid enough for my cnc, just gonna be careful bolting on
[04:17:16] <Connor> They didn't come out perfectly round.. Guess the plywood is a bit harder than MDF is.. and my machine isn't super rigid..
[04:17:35] <Connor> but, good enough for what I need it for.
[04:17:42] <toastydeath> spring pass?
[04:18:00] <Connor> I did. Probably moving too fast too..
[04:18:19] <toastydeath> ballscrews or leadscrews
[04:18:33] <Connor> I did Spiral Inside profiles .125" per down to 1.4" depth..
[04:18:42] <toastydeath> ballscrews or leadscrews?
[04:18:55] <toastydeath> or rather what's the backlash on the machine
[04:18:57] <Connor> then went back and did a pocket pass .7" depth per pass.
[04:19:02] <Connor> ballscrews.
[04:19:11] <toastydeath> so probably like .0007 or so on backlast?
[04:19:15] <toastydeath> *backlash
[04:19:25] <XXCoder1> even odder thing? the meeting table was placed in pallet with 8 chairs (it can easily seat 12, its that large) and wrapped in plastic. still wonder why that single peice (same color and all) was thrown away
[04:19:26] <Connor> probably higher. C7's
[04:19:35] <toastydeath> what size endmill did you use
[04:19:41] <Connor> 1/4"
[04:19:45] <toastydeath> weird
[04:20:00] <Connor> could be the router wasn't 100% trammed.
[04:20:09] <Connor> and the gantry moving side to side a bit..
[04:20:29] <Connor> doc on the bit probably wasn't good enough for 1.4" either..
[04:20:40] <XXCoder1> con, could always upgrade gantry
[04:20:41] <Connor> I think the shank was in contact with the wood.
[04:21:00] <XXCoder1> 2 sheets per side and very rigidly built
[04:21:03] <Connor> It's going to be redone in all alum at somepoint.
[04:21:08] <XXCoder1> nice
[04:21:13] <Connor> no room to do double thick..
[04:21:47] <XXCoder1> was thinking 2 per side, with some seperation but very strongly connected. reforced. makes for super rigid gantry
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[04:23:49] <Connor> I had issue with my Z too.. the coupler was loose on the ball screw.. ended up going deeper and deeper on my test part.. ended up going into the spoil board.. ticked me off..
[04:24:21] <XXCoder1> ow so was underpowered and dropping or missing steps on up only?
[04:24:40] <Connor> wasn't missing steps.. just slipping when going up..
[04:24:56] <Connor> I had to tighten up the coupler.
[04:25:10] <XXCoder1> heh I'd do a air run test first
[04:25:23] <XXCoder1> better to see screwups than have evidence of such ;)
[04:26:03] <Connor> it was so subtle, you probably would have noticed..
[04:26:27] <XXCoder1> i probably would. ;)
[04:26:34] <XXCoder1> http://toolmonger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/cnc72-450.jpg
[04:26:41] <XXCoder1> check how gantry sides is designed
[04:27:29] <Connor> That's pretty toughs.. looks like lead screw and not ballscrews..
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[04:29:33] <XXCoder1> guess so. I have ballscrews.
[04:29:54] <XXCoder1> because why not? chinese shit ones ballscrews is still better than acme or lead screws
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[04:44:05] <XXCoder1> talking about computer control this is awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0f3sz0vJjH8
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[05:00:46] <XXCoder1> wow quiet now lol
[05:01:03] <mazafaka1> If I need to get the information from large amount of sensors which measure the pressure, how can I get together the information on PC? So as I can see on the monitor at which sensor there's a low pressure?
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[05:11:46] <Jymmm> mazafaka1: arduino
[05:20:05] <mazafaka1> arduino modules? I have poured tea on laptop, so i reconnect right now
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[05:22:29] <ChuangTzu> lol
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[05:24:49] <XXCoder1> fun
[05:25:41] <mazafaka> jymm I will have tried to read about the use of this aduino modules.
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[07:04:09] <MrSunshine> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKrvL0l3gso cool machine =)
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[13:31:14] <jthornton> how can I cut Polyurethane Foam Air Filter neatly?
[13:32:23] <Jymmm> electric carving knife
[13:32:26] <Jymmm> or
[13:32:34] <Jymmm> coping saw works nice too
[13:32:35] <Jymmm> or
[13:32:39] <Jymmm> bread knife
[13:32:54] <Jymmm> bread knife work s really well
[13:33:13] <Jymmm> Could try hot wire too
[13:33:17] <jthornton> they don't sound like that would give a neat square edge... this is 1" thick
[13:33:29] <jthornton> no hot wire as it will close the cells
[13:33:31] <Jymmm> read knife and a straight edge will
[13:33:35] <Jymmm> bread knife
[13:33:43] <jthornton> I'll give it a try
[13:34:14] <jthornton> so what I need is a scalloped edge blade for my vertical band saw and a rip fence
[13:34:27] <SpeedEvil> Nice sharp carving knife
[13:34:36] <Jymmm> you can do it by hand, it's really easy
[13:34:45] <SpeedEvil> maybe with a smear of oil on the blade for the finest cut
[13:34:58] <Jymmm> there are special bandsaw blades for plastics/foams
[13:35:15] <Jymmm> no oil needed, just a sharp breadknife
[13:35:21] <jthornton> I need to cut a bunch of strips then glue the ends together
[13:35:30] <jthornton> to make a circle
[13:35:43] <SpeedEvil> Another hack is to add water, freeze, and then treat as wood
[13:36:15] <Jymmm> jthornton: oh, so your cuting curves?
[13:36:41] <jthornton> making a pre filter for a round air filter
[13:36:58] <Jymmm> out of PU ?
[13:37:39] <Jymmm> jthornton: what application?
[13:37:43] <jthornton> http://www.mcmaster.com/#foam-air-filters/=sayx7g
[13:37:56] <jthornton> an air filter pre filter
[13:38:07] <jthornton> for a Rotax 998
[13:38:51] <jthornton> the actual function is a noise reduction
[13:39:00] <Jymmm> jthornton: hot wire
[13:39:52] <Jymmm> I thought you were using solidified PU (foam in a can type)
[13:40:37] <Jymmm> jthornton: or, like I said there is a special bandsawblade specially for soft foam materials
[13:43:03] <Jymmm> jthornton: even cuts lettuce and cheeses
http://www.yorksaw.com/
[13:44:37] <Jymmm> jthornton: laser cut them too
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[13:47:37] <Jymmm> jthornton: disregard my breadknife statement; wrong type of PU I was thinking.
[13:48:45] <Jymmm> jthornton: meat slicer type blade would work for soft foam
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[13:51:16] <Jymmm> jthornton: Theres a place out here that all the deal with/sell is various tyes of foam. They have thus HUGE bandsaw type table (8ft x 12") that moves for cutting full sheet foam products
[13:53:22] <jthornton> I'll have to see what I can dig up or make
[13:53:38] <Jymmm> http://www.cutlascnc.com/CNC-foam-cutters/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/foam_cutter_BandSaw_Slit.jpg
[13:54:19] <Jymmm> jthornton:
http://images.starrett.com/is/image/Starrett/BandKnives?wid=1200&hei=1200&qlt=90,1
[13:54:38] <Jymmm> jthornton:
http://www.starrett.com/saws/saws-hand-tool-products/band-saw-blades/specialty-band-saw-blades/band-knives
[13:55:12] <Jymmm> Hmmm, they are caling them "band knives"
[13:55:56] <Jymmm> jthornton: FWIW, a proper temperature hot wire will NOT close the cells of foam btw.
[13:56:11] <Einar1> I cut a foam cylinder in my lathe once. Used a small wood router at 30K RPM to cut it. It came out very nice. So why not try to cut in a CNC router?
[14:04:41] <SpeedEvil> Polyurethane is not a thermoplastic
[14:04:53] <SpeedEvil> It's a thermoset.
[14:05:15] <SpeedEvil> it will burn, but not reform
[14:05:21] <Jymmm> SpeedEvil: It'll still cut with a hot wire
[14:05:25] <SpeedEvil> sure
[14:05:29] <SpeedEvil> foam at least
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[14:05:48] <Jymmm> Even high density PU
[14:06:01] <Jymmm> just need to run at a higher temp
[14:06:04] <SpeedEvil> I was just meaning no temperature of wire will make a shiny surface of foam, like it might with polythene or other polymer
[14:06:08] <Jymmm> or you'll get goo
[14:06:37] <Jymmm> PU/PP is tricky to cut with hot wire
[14:06:44] <Jymmm> err PE/PP I mean
[14:07:01] * Jymmm likes PP =)
[14:07:01] * SpeedEvil ponders.
[14:07:34] <Jymmm> it doens't solidify very quickly
[14:07:44] <Jymmm> since such a high temp is needed
[14:08:15] <Jymmm> It's like serving the ends of paracord, it "round overs"
[14:08:24] <Jymmm> siering
[14:08:38] <Jymmm> muchrooms?
[14:08:42] <Jymmm> mushrooms
[14:09:13] <Jymmm> unless you get the right temp and can maintain that
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[14:21:03] <maZer`-> hi all
[14:22:43] <kengu> hello
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[14:27:56] <CaptHindsight> SpeedEvil: except for this class
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoplastic_polyurethane
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[15:57:09] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[15:57:16] <XXCoder1> hey ich
[15:57:58] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[15:58:30] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: light rain here after a super hot summer day
[15:59:16] <Jymmm> yuck
[16:00:17] <IchGuckLive> the smell outside is fabouless as near 10.000 US people are at BBQ mode
[16:00:51] <IchGuckLive> im off bey till later from home
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[16:01:28] <XXCoder1> lol he never stays lomg
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[16:41:50] <XXCoder1> nw sketchup
[16:41:52] <XXCoder1> new
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[16:43:13] <FrankZappa> eeesh
[16:43:20] <XXCoder1> sketchup 8
[16:43:22] <FrankZappa> do you use sketchup for any output?
[16:43:35] <XXCoder1> just using it for design plans
[16:43:39] <FrankZappa> I like gesturing with it, but otherwise it's let me down way too much
[16:44:26] <maZer`-> does someone want to tune my pid on my dc servo (velocity mode) machine for 50usd per hour? Over teamviewer or VNC or something :D
[16:45:52] <zeeshan> i bet pcw_home will
[16:45:53] <zeeshan> =D
[16:46:05] <zeeshan> he's an expert
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[16:46:49] <Jymmm> $50/hr ARE YOU KIDDING?! NOT A CHANCE IN HELL!!! Now, $51/hour, sure no problem!
[16:47:22] <XXCoder1> lol
[16:47:25] <XXCoder1> odd
[16:47:35] <XXCoder1> sketchup 8 dont allow me to specify size??
[16:48:08] <Jymmm> google sketchup? for 2d or 3d usage?
[16:48:44] <XXCoder1> 3d
[16:48:59] <Jymmm> XXCoder1: Have you looked at Blender?
[16:49:12] <XXCoder1> yeah
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[16:58:05] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[16:59:18] <IchGuckLive> Blender is the berst to go for
[17:00:24] <maZer`-> hehe
[17:00:34] <IchGuckLive> servus maZer`-
[17:00:41] <maZer`-> hi :)
[17:00:44] <IchGuckLive> wie stehts läuft die mühle
[17:00:57] <maZer`-> ja xD
[17:01:05] <maZer`-> aber ich kriege den pid nicht hin :(
[17:01:05] <FrankZappa> nah
[17:01:08] <FrankZappa> Rhino
[17:01:15] <maZer`-> das echt zum abkratzen
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[17:02:41] <IchGuckLive> FrankZappa: Rhino 4
[17:02:56] <IchGuckLive> i got a 3.2 version
[17:03:05] <IchGuckLive> and rhino cam 1
[17:03:11] <FrankZappa> I'm using 5 with grasshopper
[17:03:36] <IchGuckLive> things are changing at the time goes on
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[18:31:44] <XXCoder1> hey IchGuckLive
[18:32:18] <XXCoder1> yeah played with blender, bit hard to learn how use but sketchup just is too weird. Once I draw something I cannot re-specify its size to specific size!
[18:32:24] <XXCoder1> that sucks big time.
[18:32:35] <XXCoder1> no way to specify exact position either
[18:32:56] <IchGuckLive> XXCoder1: why not heeks or freecad
[18:33:13] <XXCoder1> ich not making cnc toolpath
[18:33:32] <XXCoder1> just trying to make more exact plans for my cnc so I dont get too far astray when building
[18:37:04] <IchGuckLive> XXCoder1:
http://www.sammellothar.de/X_RAHMEN.mpg
[18:37:32] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6kllGspehQ
[18:38:33] <XXCoder1> looking into freecad
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[18:40:41] <XXCoder1> looks cool gona try that
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[18:44:04] <XXCoder1> hey
[18:45:58] <IchGuckLive> pcw_home: online ?
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[19:05:09] <XXCoder1> damn~
[19:05:13] <XXCoder1> freecad is nice!
[19:06:05] <XXCoder1> and I love dual screen. using freecad in one and website with tutorial on other
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[19:07:16] <jdh> 3 is better
[19:07:43] <XXCoder1> I bet but 2 is my computer limit
[19:08:05] <XXCoder1> I dont plan to upgrade this one
[19:08:13] <XXCoder1> its 100 pc years old
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[19:08:23] <jdh> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/tls/4508879226.html
[19:09:34] <XXCoder1> pretty cheap
[19:09:59] <jdh> I could quit screwing aroudn with my 9x20
[19:10:09] <XXCoder1> and ship that one to me free? lol
[19:10:13] <jdh> I'd be more enthused if I had something I actually wanted to turn.
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[19:14:50] <XXCoder1> no project ideas?
[19:15:10] <XXCoder1> how about lamps and such? heh. theres nice "faces or lamp" illusion you can make in real world
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[19:17:29] <XXCoder1> http://pieceofmind.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/illusion2.jpg
[19:17:33] <XXCoder1> example
[19:18:13] <XXCoder1> somone made actual lamp
https://latenightdebates.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/faceslamp.jpg
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[19:24:48] <XXCoder1> jdh: what ya think lol
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[19:34:59] <jdh> looks spun
[19:35:07] <XXCoder1> yeah
[19:39:18] <Tom_itx> just 2??
[19:39:27] <Tom_itx> how do you survive with just 2 pcs
[19:39:51] <jdh> oy
[19:39:57] <jdh> it's not nice to make fun of poor people.
[19:40:07] <Tom_itx> i wasn't
[19:40:08] <XXCoder1> yeah
[19:40:13] <Tom_itx> i got some of mine free
[19:40:26] <XXCoder1> I guess regional thing
[19:40:34] <XXCoder1> cant do it around here lol
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[19:57:21] <XXCoder1> man freecad is nice
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[20:44:10] <jdh> hey, how's freecad?
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[20:51:24] <XXCoder1> great just figuring one thing though
[20:51:44] <XXCoder1> how to rotate parts lol its logic is strange so probably doing it wrong. reading tutoriaks
[20:52:08] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:02:22] <XXCoder1> jdh: ou use freecad?
[21:02:36] <XXCoder1> because I need help with rotation which is all kinds of weird :(
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