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[00:48:04] <leonardo_> Hello to all, I've compiled a module with comp and works fine but I have a warning message at compiling time that says "warning: the frame size of 57680 bytes is larger than 2560 bytes"
[00:48:11] <leonardo_> is this serious?
[00:48:20] <leonardo_> thanks as always! :)
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[01:18:41] <micges-dev1> leonardo__: not serious
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[01:28:21] <leonardo__> so I don't need to change anything?
[01:28:39] <leonardo__> because the module works fine.. but I only had that doubt
[01:33:40] <micges-dev1> it's just too much local variables, linux will handle that
[01:35:44] <leonardo__> I see, so it's fine that way... thank you for clarifying that for me! :)
[01:36:15] <micges-dev1> np
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[02:02:38] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/IbEFlCr.jpg
[02:02:43] <zeeshan> finally these damn pulleys are mounted
[02:02:48] <zeeshan> wish they came bored
[02:03:10] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/F16nY0k.jpg
[02:03:12] <zeeshan> belt just clears
[02:05:44] <zeeshan> now i just need my power supply
[02:05:48] <zeeshan> and i can start machining!
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[03:52:40] <zeeshan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuAjao9e51U
[03:52:42] <zeeshan> very cool
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[03:55:52] <Valen> pretty hot I'd say
[03:57:11] <zeeshan> the FOV is 5 earths wide
[03:57:15] <zeeshan> so those ejections are huge
[03:57:24] <Valen> yup ;->
[03:57:48] <PetefromTn> whaddahell are we talking about?
[03:57:50] <Valen> It is actually something I feel the local govt should be thinking about as they roll out their new broadband network
[03:58:02] <Valen> the new govt wants to keep the copper network
[03:58:16] <zeeshan> PetefromTn:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuAjao9e51U
[03:58:19] <zeeshan> that
[03:58:22] <Valen> when a CME hits it'll put a few hundred volts into everything and fry it
[03:58:43] <Valen> we are overdue for a decent CME hitting earth
[04:00:03] <PetefromTn> looks hot ;)
[04:00:14] <Valen> thats what I said
[04:00:17] <zeeshan> hehe
[04:00:58] <PetefromTn> that's why I mowed the lawn today at 7pm.
[04:01:24] <PetefromTn> looks nice ...LOL
[04:02:37] <PetefromTn> was running parts all afternoon ...
[04:02:47] <zeeshan> PetefromTn: you should make me a trigger wheel
[04:02:48] <zeeshan> :p
[04:03:10] <PetefromTn> trigger wheel like pistols on your car wheels hehehe
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[04:03:49] <PetefromTn> what kinda trigger wheel?
[04:05:21] <zeeshan> for the lathe
[04:05:34] <PetefromTn> aah
[04:05:50] <PetefromTn> what kinda sensor
[04:05:54] <zeeshan> optical
[04:05:56] <zeeshan> i wonder if i can make this work
[04:06:01] <zeeshan> http://shop.perfectpower.com/image/cache/60_Trigger_Wheel-500x500.jpg
[04:06:10] <zeeshan> id just need to mill an index pulse
[04:06:56] <PetefromTn> maybe use a prox and a magnet for the index..
[04:07:07] <zeeshan> i already have optical sensors
[04:07:07] <zeeshan> =/
[04:07:31] <PetefromTn> okay then get er done man.
[04:07:45] <zeeshan> just need the right wheel!
[04:08:08] <PetefromTn> didn't you make that one you just posted?
[04:08:23] <zeeshan> no
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[04:08:27] <zeeshan> its something i found on google
[04:08:51] <PetefromTn> don't you have a manual mill and a rotab?
[04:08:59] <zeeshan> no rotary table
[04:09:10] <PetefromTn> eek
[04:09:43] <PetefromTn> what's the wheel diameter?
[04:09:57] <zeeshan> the cad one i have
[04:10:02] <zeeshan> is 4.000" diameter
[04:10:08] <zeeshan> with an id of 3.250
[04:10:55] <PetefromTn> what does that fit on that's kinda big ID no?
[04:11:13] <zeeshan> it fits on the spindle bore tube thing
[04:11:26] <zeeshan> http://7xcnc.com/files/4613/5208/1361/NJW_2762.jpg
[04:11:30] <zeeshan> like that
[04:11:51] <PetefromTn> huh I never measured it did not think it was that big really
[04:12:23] <zeeshan> whoops
[04:12:26] <zeeshan> the id is 2.25"
[04:12:27] <zeeshan> lol
[04:12:27] <PetefromTn> looks simple enough.
[04:12:30] <zeeshan> i mis read the dimension
[04:13:20] <PetefromTn> that one has a single deeper groove for index nice..
[04:14:05] <PetefromTn> that picture looks like a mini lathe or something.
[04:15:19] <PetefromTn> I'd probably machine it from 3/4 plate and then turn down the edge to be thin for the sensor body after milling. Then you have a flange for setscrews.
[04:16:13] <zeeshan> hehe
[04:16:21] <zeeshan> i currently have it for a separate hub
[04:16:30] <zeeshan> cause iwas thinking i could cut the trigger wheel cut on a waterjet
[04:16:33] <zeeshan> and then just make the hub at home
[04:16:55] <PetefromTn> waterjets are nice but not real precise man.
[04:17:08] <zeeshan> local one does 0.003" tolerance band
[04:17:24] <zeeshan> just leaves a shitty edge finish
[04:17:27] <zeeshan> grainy
[04:17:53] <PetefromTn> on thin shit maybe. the one at the shop I worked in was pretty bad.
[04:18:28] <PetefromTn> if the material was thicker than say 3/4 or so..
[04:19:32] <PetefromTn> they are nasty dirty machines I think. Neat what you can do with them but makes a huge mess...
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[04:25:16] <PetefromTn> well I'm off guys GN8...
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[04:47:58] <zee-Lathe> help!
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[05:06:51] <zee-Lathe> nm
[05:06:59] <zee-Lathe> finally got this encoder responding
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[05:23:12] <zeeshan> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/spindle.html
[05:23:22] <zeeshan> the code for spindle syncronized motion is wrong
[05:23:26] <zeeshan> well its not wrong
[05:23:28] <zeeshan> it has a typo
[05:23:37] <zeeshan> loadrt encoder num_chan=1 should be loadrt encoder num_chan=4
[05:23:57] <zeeshan> cause setp encoder.3.position-scale etc should be 0 not 3 if its going to be 1
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[06:43:26] <Deejay> moin
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[09:30:28] <miss0r> right next to me is now standing a mint condition Roland CAMM-3 PNC-3100 mill yay ! got it for only ~1000USD
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[09:38:08] <archivist> another happy bunny, tell us when you have it under linuxcnc :)
[09:38:48] <miss0r> From what I hear, that is going to be a challange, but I am hard at work already
[09:40:06] <miss0r> Time to go offline and do some serious work. cya
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[10:22:41] * SpeedEvil wonders if that's '~1000' or '1300'.
[10:25:15] <jthornton> morning
[10:29:47] <SpeedEvil> Mnorngin
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[15:11:12] <zeeshan> helllooo
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[15:31:00] <miss0r> I am looking for someone with experience setting up a roland camm-3 mill. I have hit a dead end, everything is connected, the drivers installed & the software downloaded & installed. I have no idea where to go from here(I have some experience milling) I have no idea if the computer is even 'talking' to the mill. So can anyone please help me? (I have spend roughly 8 hours searching the web
[15:31:00] <miss0r> without any luck)
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[15:43:07] <jdh> it uses LinuxCNC?
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[15:44:28] <miss0r> jdh, right now I was hoping to get it running with its generic software, to see if it is even working properly. Then I will convert it to linuxCNC. I know it is a scretch asking in here for non linuxCNC software, but I have no idea where else to go- theres close to nothing available online
[15:45:54] <cradek> it's possible someone here can help, but you will have to give A LOT more information about what you have.
[15:46:27] <cradek> if nothing else, I suggest taking a bunch of photos and writing down everything you know, and making that all available online
[15:46:44] <cradek> ... if you don't know where to start
[15:47:03] <cradek> but if you do know where to start, maybe you have some more specific questions?
[15:47:29] <cradek> but of course it's true the software we (collectively) know the most about is linuxcnc
[15:47:44] <cradek> a lot of us do know a lot about the hardware you find in machine tools
[15:47:52] <miss0r> well. For a start I would just like to know how to determin if the computer has connection to the mill controller. I guess that is where I want to start
[15:48:11] <zeeshan> is it a parallel port
[15:48:18] <miss0r> yes
[15:48:34] <zeeshan> if you had linuxcnc
[15:48:45] <zeeshan> you could just energize each pin and measure the pin on the other side with a volt meter
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[15:48:50] <cradek> describe what you have and what you know about it
[15:48:51] <zeeshan> you'd see it either go to 3.3 v or 5V
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[15:50:41] <miss0r> +cradek: I have a Roland DG CAMM-3 PNC-3100 mill. I have it hooked up with the controller and the key panel. I have the controller connected to the PC with a parallel cable. On the computer I have installed the corresponding driver and Modela Player. I can move the machine with the key panel and do all it can do from there. But I have no tools and/or means of telling if the computer even
[15:50:42] <miss0r> knows how to talk to the mill.
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[15:54:06] <jdh> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/CAMM-3/
[15:54:08] <jdh> tried there?
[15:54:51] <miss0r> jdh: I have. I am hoping someone will answer in time. I wrote in there 4 hours ago
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[15:55:14] <Connor> I would check cnczone.com too
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[16:55:42] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:56:56] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: still online on pnc-3100
[16:57:00] <tjtr33> miss0r, google modela and searc youtube for tutorials. lotsa hits. from what i see you need to get a model first, so get something very simple. not interactive, not informative, no scrolling lines of code seen! tool path simulation yes. pretty blind load & go.
[16:57:52] <tjtr33> the software controls many roland mini mills
[16:58:12] <IchGuckLive> its on the maufacturing date 2009 <>
[16:58:21] <kfoltman> hi IchGuckLive
[16:58:28] <IchGuckLive> they changed the communication
[16:58:32] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: ib/e is on the way from Germany :)
[16:59:01] <IchGuckLive> its available in Dublin 2
[16:59:37] <kfoltman> ????????
[16:59:55] <IchGuckLive> you are in irelend
[16:59:57] <kfoltman> yes
[17:00:18] <kfoltman> I ordered some step clamps and end mills too, not just the proxxon :)
[17:00:21] <IchGuckLive> McQuillan tools got all proxxon items
[17:00:51] <kfoltman> but possibly at rip-off prices
[17:01:16] <kfoltman> but, good to know if I need something quick
[17:01:25] <IchGuckLive> dident bought anything there but Proxxon prices are fixed all over the world
[17:01:50] <IchGuckLive> as fixed as Mcdonalds +- some amont
[17:02:22] <kfoltman> I've tried some local online shops first, but they wanted about 100+vat for the ib/e
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[17:02:50] <kfoltman> sorotec sells the newer model (ibs/e) for 79+shipping, which comes slightly below 100
[17:03:13] <IchGuckLive> up to you
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[17:03:44] <kfoltman> I'm buying things from mcquillian tools from time to time though (the store in city centre, dublin 1, anyway)
[17:04:16] <IchGuckLive> oh i dont know witch there are more then 4 arpound dublin
[17:04:35] <IchGuckLive> maybe its a spechal plumbing as there is also a gardener store
[17:04:38] <kfoltman> I've only found one, and that's purely by accident :)
[17:06:17] <kfoltman> http://www.mcquillantools.ie/store-locator one in Dublin 1, one in Blanchardstown, one in Cork
[17:07:01] <IchGuckLive> you are local im only google
[17:07:15] <tjtr33> miss0r, did you read the manual?
http://www.manualslib.com/download/604438/Roland-Pnc-3100.html
[17:07:16] <tjtr33> miss0r looks like spooled serial cnc appliance, not at all like linuxcnc ( or most cncs ) built for artists not machinists
[17:07:31] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: anyway, just telling you what I've found :)
[17:07:39] <IchGuckLive> tjtr33: do you think he is still around
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[17:08:15] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: I'm waiting for the 20mm clamp (from France) and some belts/pulleys/bearings (from China) so I'm not in a hurry :)
[17:08:23] <miss0r> I've read all the manuals. The one thing I did not do was hit print. It seems to be working properly, thanks people
[17:08:29] * kfoltman is an ebay junkie
[17:08:41] <KimK_w> miss0r: Don't forget that LinuxCNC is downloadable as a run-live CD, you could try it on-the-fly without giving up your current installation (if you can boot from CD). See
http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/download . You could also install as dual or multi boot, if that helps.
[17:09:17] <IchGuckLive> miss0r: you are the mam of the day
[17:09:25] <miss0r> right.... :)
[17:09:29] <IchGuckLive> man ;-)
[17:09:36] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, listed & mis<tab> completes, so he didnt log off od away
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[17:10:03] <IchGuckLive> O.o
[17:10:13] <tjtr33> haha start damnit! {Louder if if it doesnt work!}
[17:10:18] <kfoltman> BTW, I have a beaglebone that I might use for LinuxCNC (to replace grbl that I'm currently using), any idiot-friendly solutions out there?
[17:10:59] <IchGuckLive> did you look in the wii
[17:11:04] <IchGuckLive> wiki
[17:11:08] <tjtr33> miss0r, KimK it uses a proprietary ascii command set, not even hpgl some kinds RolandGL
[17:11:20] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: not yet, I'll look if it's there :)
[17:12:15] <tjtr33> miss0r, you cant control the motors or spindle thru the cable, you _ask_ for it using a language
[17:12:18] <miss0r> tjtr33, so LinuxCNC is out?
[17:12:23] <miss0r> indeed
[17:12:44] <miss0r> In other words: I would have to remake the electroncis inorder for it to be able to run with LinuxCNC
[17:13:15] <tjtr33> no, you can go around the old control, you have to dig inside and see where you can get to the real parts, past their 'brainz'
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[17:13:46] <tjtr33> more surgery and adding parts than re-inventing/engineering
[17:14:09] <IchGuckLive> its marked at the Hstages
[17:14:17] <IchGuckLive> XYZ
[17:14:37] <IchGuckLive> the spindle is a 6bit order i wrote a comp for it
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[17:15:38] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, mark those with 'miss0r' if they have to do with his Roland project. i cant tell where you're aiming ;)
[17:16:01] <IchGuckLive> ok
[17:16:34] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, where did you find the hbridge connections?
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[17:17:55] <IchGuckLive> in the V2.x version add pnc3100 its around the on of button corner marked on mashine base
[17:18:20] <IchGuckLive> if it is a modified v1.1x from 3000
[17:18:46] <IchGuckLive> its on buotton of the top plate
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[17:50:55] <lair82_> Hello pcw_home
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[17:51:28] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: what are you calling the HM2 UDP ethernet again?
[17:52:02] <pcw_home> Hi
[17:52:03] <pcw_home> CaptHindsight: do you think that AMD MB/CPU is a good risk (less than say 50 usec jitter)
[17:52:16] <CaptHindsight> hm2_ether
[17:52:54] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: the e350m1 are ~10uS with 3.4.55 RTAI
[17:53:04] <CaptHindsight> lower with a tweaked kernel
[17:53:05] <pcw_home> yeah the driver is hm2_ether (to match hm2_pci and eventually hm2_EPP and hm2_spi)
[17:53:11] <lair82_> Is that correct in saying that if I am out of CPU, I need a faster cpu??
[17:53:26] <CaptHindsight> great, trying to burn my skull flash with that term
[17:53:27] <pcw_home> i suspect the AMD will just work (with som BIOS twaeks)
[17:54:00] <pcw_home> but I have no direct experience
[17:54:09] <CaptHindsight> http://www.amazon.com/ASRock-E350M1-Dual-Core-Mini-ITX-Motherboard/dp/B004KABOZG but now $88 on Amamzon, newegg might be permanently out
[17:55:14] <pcw_home> lair82_ Yes faster CPU (using the bigger hammer theory anyway)
[17:56:16] <lair82_> We pretty much go by the old saying " Go big or Go Home " anyway, so I guess it fits
[17:56:31] <lair82_> I can try machinekit on the J1800/J1900 if there are doubts
[17:57:06] <lair82_> I guess it would be the J1900 for the PCI slot
[17:57:50] <pcw_home> Machine kit/Xenomai ought to work on the J1800/J1900s but I have no experience with it
[17:58:02] <lair82_> Or this one maybe?
http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4895#ov
[17:58:40] <pcw_home> Yes or the Asus equivalent : j1800i-a
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[18:02:10] <CaptHindsight> lair82_: I can try your program on an E350m1 but i only have PCIe 6i25's for it
[18:02:26] <lair82_> Not holding anybody responsible, but which one would be a better bet
[18:02:59] <pcw_home> e 350 is out since it has to PCI slot as is no faster than what you have
[18:03:09] <CaptHindsight> lair82_: is this for one machine? are fans an issue? just need PCI?
[18:03:10] <pcw_home> has no PCI slot
[18:03:20] <lair82_> We are willing to buys some boards and give it a whirl, just looking for a little direction
[18:03:26] <CaptHindsight> yeah ,nevermind
[18:03:40] <CaptHindsight> I have tons of boards here
[18:03:55] <lair82_> I have three turning centers, all having the same issues. I
[18:07:00] <pcw_home> The J1800/I1900 boards are very nice in that they are fanless and fast but will probably need xenomai or preemt-rt + machinekit currently
[18:07:01] <pcw_home> because if the lack of graphics support (or live with slow graphics and 2.6 RTAI hernsl)
[18:07:16] <pcw_home> kernel
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[18:10:53] <lair82_> not sure if I missed anything, my pc froze, last I said was fans arent an issue
[18:11:37] <CaptHindsight> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4343#sp is what we have been using for more complex machines
[18:11:40] <CaptHindsight> works with new kernels and has accel graphics
[18:12:02] <CaptHindsight> you didn't miss anything :)
[18:13:20] <pcw_home> for the minimum amount of changes its probably better to just use a faster standard MB
[18:13:22] <pcw_home> so if those have decent latency (less tha 50K) those are probably a good choice
[18:13:36] <CaptHindsight> https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/F2A85V_PRO/ is what memleak uses for all the initial RTAI development
[18:14:01] <CaptHindsight> all AMD in the past 5+ years are 10Us or less
[18:14:24] <CaptHindsight> I can't recall one higher even going back 10 years
[18:14:48] <pcw_home> OK so
[18:14:49] <pcw_home> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157465
[18:14:51] <pcw_home> is probaby a good bet
[18:16:32] <CaptHindsight> + FM2 APU ~$50
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[18:17:41] <CaptHindsight> coreboot supports most Trinity APU's
[18:18:08] <lair82_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113343
[18:18:19] <pcw_home> any of those will be at least twice as fast as the Atom
[18:18:24] <lair82_> Look like a winner?
[18:18:45] <CaptHindsight> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113330 if you want coreboot
[18:18:45] <lair82_> I have a bunch of memory for that board anyway
[18:19:00] <pcw_home> I would say its a good bet
[18:19:26] <pcw_home> you may be able to just move your hard drive
[18:21:31] <lair82_> Not to sound like I don't know what I'm doing but what is Coreboot?
[18:22:57] <CaptHindsight> lair82_: open source firmware to replace BIOS/EFI, gets you 2 second boots from power-on to login
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[18:24:51] <lair82_sim> My pc tied up again, move to my lncnc sim machine.
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[18:26:48] <lair82_sim> pcw_home which processor did you mean by a good bet, and what did coreboot mean
[18:28:18] <CaptHindsight> lair82_sim: coreboot is an open source firmware to replace BIOS/EFI, gets you 2 second boots from power-on to login
[18:28:45] <lair82_sim> Ahhh I see
[18:28:53] <CaptHindsight> most of the Trinity APU's are supported, Richland is experimental, but it only matters if you want to try coreboot
[18:29:16] <CaptHindsight> the stock EFI works with any FX2 or FX2+ APU
[18:29:53] <lair82_sim> Not a deal breaker, but can you repost that, I just took a 12 guage to my regular desktop
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[18:32:08] <pcw_home> but you probaby want a GPU so for cheap the A4-4000 or A4-6300
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[18:46:22] <CaptHindsight> http://www.amd.com/en-us/products/pricing/a-series-apu
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[18:50:04] <lair82_sim> i just ordered that board and processor, see what happens when it comes in.
[18:54:07] <Jymmm> AB Panel OUCH
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Allen-Bradley-Panel-View-Plus-700-Cat-2711P-RDB7C-with-2711P-RP2-Logic-Module-/141303833103
[18:56:50] <pcw_home> A4-4000?
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[19:02:56] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: if I add up the price of the AB Panel View and the AB PLC's in some used machines, the machine is free with those pricey controls
[19:03:20] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: lol =)
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[19:27:23] <CaptHindsight> are there any easy (Win-users) to use control systems for the non-programmer? Something with a graphical menu for controlling stepper motors without coordinated motion. Set distance to move, speed, dwell time etc etc?
[19:28:11] <CaptHindsight> for simple applications like a model train set, small lab gantry, simple pick-n-place etc
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[19:28:27] <cradek> sherline sells a pseudocnc rotary table meant for manual indexing
[19:28:40] <cradek> manual gearcutting etc
[19:31:59] <lair82_sim> pcw_home , Yes the A4-4000
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[19:33:37] <CaptHindsight> http://www.techno-isel.com/tic/LinearMotionSoftware.htm smells like mach
[19:33:54] <lair82_sim> 3-4 days shipping, so hopefully next week I will have a better idea, on where I am at with things
[19:34:22] <lair82_sim> Talk to you guys tomorrow,
[19:34:31] <CaptHindsight> let us know
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[19:49:02] <CaptHindsight> http://www.anaheimautomation.com/products/hmi/color-display-item.php?sID=347&serID=3&pt=i&tID=998&cID=414
[19:49:20] <CaptHindsight> these have a 500 page programming manual
[19:49:52] <CaptHindsight> and are >$1k for anything with a 10" or larger LCD
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[20:06:25] <SpeedEvil> CaptHindsight: I've sort-of-been wondering about the same
[20:06:37] <SpeedEvil> (control system)
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[20:21:01] <CaptHindsight> SpeedEvil: I don't see much out there. You either need to know G-code or learn some other language to at least setup the UI to make it dumbed down for the user.
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[20:21:42] <SpeedEvil> Time for a kickstarter!
[20:21:52] <CaptHindsight> all the touch screen PLC UI's use some proprietary language
[20:22:04] <CaptHindsight> or their tools for setup
[20:22:24] <CaptHindsight> well there is the duino stuff :(
[20:24:14] <CaptHindsight> http://www.instructables.com/id/Guino-Dashboard-for-your-Arduino/
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[20:36:26] <FrankZappa> niiiiice
[20:36:34] <FrankZappa> that is going to help me, thank you so much CaptHindsight
[20:37:02] <FrankZappa> you can generate gcode natively though
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[20:40:00] <CaptHindsight> FrankZappa: the Gui duino ?
[20:40:13] <CaptHindsight> Guino
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[20:42:14] <FrankZappa> yes!
[20:42:17] <FrankZappa> thx
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[21:17:21] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:16:32] <s1dev> anyone have any suggestions for 1/2" shank indexable lathe tools?
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[22:29:12] <zeeshan> s1dev: gotta be more specific!
[22:29:24] <zeeshan> are you looking for boring bars?
[22:29:43] <s1dev> good point, anything but boring bars as I already have a nice Dorian one
[22:30:42] <zeeshan> a set
[22:30:46] <zeeshan> is always nice for boring bars :p
[22:31:53] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/EorBvLD.jpg
[22:31:57] <zeeshan> those are most of the tools i use
[22:32:05] <zeeshan> parting tool
[22:32:09] <zeeshan> right hand turning tool etc
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[22:32:13] <zeeshan> wnmg holder
[22:32:50] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/afwtMJ7.jpg
[22:32:52] <zeeshan> i cant find a better pic
[22:32:52] <zeeshan> =/
[22:33:31] <s1dev> nice holder
[22:33:49] <zeeshan> thanks
[22:33:53] <zeeshan> it keeps em tidy!
[22:34:16] <zeeshan> heres one you can buy
[22:34:17] <zeeshan> as a kit
[22:35:29] <zeeshan> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/NEW-7PC-CARBIDE-INDEXABLE-LATHE-TOOL-HOLDER-SET-16MM-/400717085135?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d4c9979cf
[22:35:45] <s1dev> thanks
[22:36:07] <zeeshan> hm thats .625"
[22:36:44] <Valen> I'm going to give that picture to all my lathe friends
[22:37:03] <zeeshan> which one
[22:37:08] <Valen> http://i.imgur.com/afwtMJ7.jpg
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[22:37:26] <zeeshan> its just an angle piec eof aluminum :P
[22:37:39] <zeeshan> you know whats funny
[22:37:41] <zeeshan> i built that first
[22:37:43] <zeeshan> and then i did this
[22:38:11] <Valen> i know its just a bit of angle, but that doesn't mean its not a good idea
[22:38:32] <zeeshan> bah cant find the pic
[22:38:40] <zeeshan> oh here it is
[22:38:41] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/jApkUWQ.jpg
[22:38:45] <zeeshan> i stuck a pole on it
[22:38:52] <zeeshan> so i can mount my monitor
[22:39:07] <zeeshan> it seems to hold it fine so far
[22:39:36] <Valen> nice lathe btw
[22:39:55] <zeeshan> thank you
[22:40:05] <zeeshan> you have a lathe?
[22:41:49] <Valen> yeah, still manual though
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[23:38:59] <KimK> pcw_home: I didn't quite follow all of your earlier discussion about motherboards, what didn't you like about the E350's? I have two of them, so I was wondering if there's some problem. They have seemed OK so far, but I've only used them a little, I haven't started using them heavily yet.
[23:39:54] <KimK> So far one running Xenomai, 2nd one for RTAI maybe. If I make more progress, maybe I'll bring them to the Houston fest.
[23:43:05] <KimK> Doing repairs and getting dinner, I'll scroll back later for your comments if any. Thanks!
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[23:57:06] <PCW> KimK: nothing wrong with the E350s but the OP was running out of CPU with a Atom and the E350 is not any faster
