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[00:23:42] <Connor> Hey, question, is it possible to share input for limits / home switches with probe input?
[00:23:50] <Connor> Or is that a bad idea?
[00:24:06] <jdh> if the probe input goes off during a non-probe move it errors
[00:24:14] <cradek> you could probably do it with some hal gimmickry, but it's a bad idea
[00:24:31] <cradek> homing is a great way to bust your probe
[00:24:39] <jdh> heh
[00:24:48] <cradek> limits? I don't see how you could combine those.
[00:24:57] <cradek> home maybe.
[00:25:12] <Connor> jdh: I would use a jack that connects the tip or whatever when you unplug the plug.
[00:25:20] <cradek> jogging is the other great way to bust your probe!
[00:25:24] <Connor> cradek: My limits / home are the same.
[00:25:26] <cradek> well there are lots of ways
[00:25:40] <jdh> get a 5i25
[00:25:48] <jdh> you know you want one anyway
[00:25:52] <Connor> jdh: I will at some point.
[00:25:59] <cradek> well you don't want to disable your limit switches while probing. that's just stupid.
[00:26:24] <jdh> pci p-port card?
[00:26:38] <Connor> No.. The jack would be for the probe.. to keep the circuit in tact when probe not installed.
[00:26:44] <cradek> is the probe homemade and wired?
[00:26:51] <Connor> I'm using 3 inputs for the spindle encoder, and 1 for the limits.
[00:27:06] <Connor> cradek: I bought it.. $125.00 passive probe.
[00:27:11] <cradek> maybe you could use serport
[00:27:40] <Connor> I have 3 parports.. but, only one breakout.
[00:27:40] <cradek> well your spindle won't be running while you're probing. maybe use one of those?
[00:28:04] <Connor> Aren't their 5 inputs on parport ?
[00:28:08] <Connor> or just 4 ?
[00:28:43] <Connor> 10,11,12,13 and 15
[00:29:26] <Connor> CRAP. I'm using the other for the charge pump
[00:30:56] <Connor> I guess I'll play with it using the input for the limits seeing as I don't have all of them hooked up yet.. infact.. non of them are right now.. redoing them..
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[01:08:46] <XXCoder> hey all
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[02:50:27] <Connor_mill> hey guys, question. does motion.probe-input auto debounce? or do I need to add one ?\
[02:50:40] <Connor_mill> if so, what's a good delay time ?
[02:50:51] <jdh> no debounce on mine
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[02:53:21] <skunkworks_> no debounce here either - but I am using an opto22 which seems to be very good at debounce
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[02:54:14] <jdh> I'm using a wire run straight to teh pport pin
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[02:55:48] <Jymmm> bouncy house?
[03:00:19] <Connor_mill> looks like I'm getting around .0001" on the Z with it..
[03:00:25] <Connor_mill> repeatability that is.
[03:01:21] <Connor_mill> the faster I go, the worse it gets.. Guess that's to be expected ?
[03:01:48] <jdh> double probe
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[03:31:20] <Connor> I got my probe working.. now to just calibrate the tip..
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[03:35:30] <Jymmm> cool
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[03:37:59] <ChuangTzu> gazprom
[03:38:00] <ChuangTzu> lol
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[03:53:07] <Jymmm> Is there anything any has used to kill ants indoors that's safe around pets and actually works (being you've actually used it more than once and it kills the lil bastards)?
[03:53:31] <FrankZappa> boric acid, no?
[03:53:46] <Jymmm> not pets safe
[03:53:54] <FrankZappa> k
[03:54:10] <FrankZappa> continuous glue strips
[03:54:11] <FrankZappa> ;)
[03:54:27] <Jymmm> lol
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[05:00:41] <renesis> jymmm: orange oil
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[05:01:01] <ssi> someone sanity check my thinking please...
[05:01:14] <ssi> I'm redoing one of the axes of my plasma cutter, moving it from rack+pinion to belt drive
[05:01:38] <ssi> if I direct drive a 14 tooth XL pulley, .200" pitch on XL belt, that's 2.8" per revolution of linear travel
[05:01:50] <renesis> jymmm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonene#Uses
[05:01:56] <ssi> on a 200 step motor that's 0.014" per step, yes?
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[05:03:39] <Jymmm> renesis: Yeah, I even have some, toxic to pets
[05:04:25] <renesis> what pets?
[05:04:46] <renesis> https://www.google.com/shopping/product/9640646232696570709
[05:04:59] <renesis> i used that stuff when i was cat sitting, cat was fine
[05:05:18] <Jymmm> "Generally Recognized as Safe" =)
[05:05:29] <renesis> water can kill a mfkr
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[05:06:06] <renesis> its orange peel concentrate with a sticky wax additive
[05:06:41] <renesis> im pretty sure its safe, its a but messy because of the waxy film, dust sticks to it
[05:07:05] <renesis> and it doesnt work that great because the limonene evaporates after a couple days
[05:07:53] <renesis> i guess it works by dissolving insect lung tissues, so it has to be significantly off gassing, so it cant last forever
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[05:10:51] <Jymmm> renesis:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limonene#Safety
[05:11:28] <Jymmm> the primary ingrediant in your spray (5.8%)
[05:12:22] <Jymmm> "14 day study" HA!
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[05:29:29] <renesis> ive read the msds
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[06:04:28] <zeeshan> YEA BABY
[06:04:31] <zeeshan> SPINDLE working
[06:05:05] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4LXBQkDpOM
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[06:20:07] <MattyMatt> mm both ways
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[06:51:06] <Deejay> moinsen
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[12:52:58] <miss0r> SpeedEvil, you around?
[12:53:13] <SpeedEvil> maybe
[12:53:38] <miss0r> great, you answered my question yesterday about the pnc-3100 mill. I wasn't around to read it, sorry.
[12:54:11] <SpeedEvil> ah
[12:54:13] <miss0r> I have been searching the web for the original price of a pnc-3100 but I have come up empty. Do you have an idea about the price?
[12:54:21] <SpeedEvil> I have no idea.
[12:54:42] <miss0r> oh well, presumable somewhat more than tha ~1200 bucks
[12:55:00] <SpeedEvil> call the maker?
[12:55:29] <miss0r> I did, they told me to contact the supplier - but I have no idea where they sell/used to sell these
[12:56:54] <miss0r> The thing that worries me; will it run with LinuxCNC? it comes with mach3, which I have zero experience with
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[14:12:07] <CaptHindsight> PNC3100 Engraver?
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[14:13:07] <CaptHindsight> http://www.e-engraving.com/machines/roland/Roland_PNC-3100.htm this?
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[15:42:10] <JT-Shop> take two aspirins and use Show Hal Configuration
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[15:42:56] <zeeshan> lol
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[15:46:24] <archivist> when Hal says it cant let you do that, then you have to worry
[15:47:51] <zeeshan> i was noticing the other day
[15:47:57] <zeeshan> axis only has a clockwise button
[15:48:01] <zeeshan> but no counterclockwise :p
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[15:48:12] <zeeshan> i had to use mdi to test the spindle
[15:48:15] <pcw_home> I'm sorry dave I cant do that
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[16:39:09] <Jymmm> pcw_home: sudo hal make me a sandwich
[16:39:25] <jdh> poof. you are a sandwich.
[16:39:31] <Jymmm> =)
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[16:52:23] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[16:53:34] <IchGuckLive> jdh: sandwiches are maid poutside in mass as today about 500 prople are comming in 3hr time ;-)
[16:54:06] <jdh> that's too many people.
[16:54:09] <jdh> to be near.
[16:54:33] * SpeedEvil ponders a CNC sandwitch machine.
[16:54:41] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: there shoudtr be 2 buttons in axis clockwise and counterclockwise
[16:55:20] <jdh> f9/f10?
[16:57:54] <IchGuckLive> zeeshan: did you got all 2 inside your hal
[16:57:57] <IchGuckLive> net spindle-fwd motion.spindle-forward
[16:57:59] <IchGuckLive> net spindle-rev motion.spindle-reverse
[17:01:57] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: still online
[17:06:57] <JT-Shop_> zeeshan, you have to trick axis to get the CCW button
[17:07:44] <malcom2073> Ich yep
[17:07:51] <IchGuckLive> headache why
[17:08:06] <XXCoder> hey ich
[17:08:38] <malcom2073> Was trying to figure out how to get analog reads working on the beaglebone, but i got it now.
[17:08:48] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: you posted only this no clue to solve you headache the wizzard glass is in repai O.o
[17:09:04] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[17:09:26] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: running xenoai
[17:09:42] <malcom2073> Ich yeah
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[17:13:54] <fogl> hello everybody, does anybody know is there a way for base_period component to know that the servo_period was also triggered?
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[17:15:06] <malcom2073> IchGuckLive: The cape I'm using didn't have analog reading capabilities in its default hal file, even though it has 4 analog inputs :). I've got it reading them, now I just need to figure out the math to convert it to temperature for my temp sensors
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[17:17:21] <archivist> fogl, are you asking the right question
[17:17:52] <fogl> why
[17:18:28] <IchGuckLive> archivist he trys to connect 2 realtime pc mashines via network
[17:18:41] <jdh> I don't think I'd buy a dedicated waterproof cam. I almost never take my cam because it is too distracting
[17:18:43] <jdh> <urk>
[17:18:49] <IchGuckLive> he needs a realtime TMDC trigger
[17:19:18] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: that sounds like hotend 3D printing
[17:19:23] <malcom2073> IchGuckLive: yep
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[17:21:14] <fogl> yes... what i was thinking was to use the base_period process to transmit all the data over ethernet (sync frame, data frames) during one servo_period
[17:21:30] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: woudt be good to get this info spreded in the forium if you like to share
[17:22:31] <malcom2073> I plan on doing a writeup for the cape I'm using, and submitting these changes upstream so other users of thecape can use it, but most capes already have this stuff built in
[17:23:00] <IchGuckLive> fogl: did you look on theopen ethercat driver how it is done
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[17:23:14] <malcom2073> With any luck, others using this cape won't have to go through this like I am :)
[17:24:22] <IchGuckLive> malcom2073: there are now to many out so i thought about that NEW tread 3D printing using beglebone in our forum
[17:25:30] <malcom2073> There are, but it doesn't look like a whole lot of people are actually using it for 3d printing, at least those who are, aren't talking much about it :)
[17:27:55] <IchGuckLive> yeah everyone is going to form its startup as SEP nears the open patent hotend
[17:28:23] <zeeshan> IchGuckLive: ahh i see
[17:28:31] <zeeshan> JT-Shop: hal trickery.
[17:28:33] <IchGuckLive> here in the area shops are growing like mashro
[17:28:42] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4LXBQkDpOM
[17:28:46] <zeeshan> i calculated
[17:28:52] <zeeshan> its putting out 220ft-lb of torque at this rpm!
[17:28:56] <IchGuckLive> you are the man
[17:29:04] <zeeshan> 9.13ft-lb at 1725rpm
[17:29:09] <zeeshan> 23:1 back gear ratio
[17:29:28] <IchGuckLive> thats hole a lot
[17:29:39] <zeeshan> should be good for tapping
[17:29:40] <zeeshan> i think
[17:29:51] <zeeshan> and breaking loose lug nuts
[17:29:51] <zeeshan> haha
[17:30:06] <zeeshan> i posted the wrong link.
[17:30:09] <IchGuckLive> its enmoph to kill you on wrong g-code
[17:30:22] <zeeshan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm1XW3RxvdE
[17:33:31] <zeeshan> i was trying to break my wrist
[17:34:20] <jdh> step away from the pr0n.
[17:35:01] <Jymmm> step away from the poor quality pr0n.
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[17:55:42] <IchGuckLive> im off BBQ nice weather
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[18:05:14] <fogl> can someone please tell me if my thinking is right: The base_thread period is equal to rt_timer period, which is set to periodic_mode?
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[18:09:14] <fogl> And the servo_period is equal to integer*base period. So the servo_period process is triggered only at lower frequency, but at the same time as base_period process?
[18:10:11] <zeeshan> Anyone here rebuild a manual transmission before?
[18:10:27] <micges> fogl: yes to first question
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[18:12:14] <micges> fogl: to be specific rt_timer is set to first created thread, so any next thread can be equal or integer times slower
[18:13:02] <archivist> zeeshan, I did a solenoid/manual driven box
[18:13:05] <revo14> hello im using inkscape to generate g-code but when i try to do it doesnt not work so i can see that------No paths are selected! Trying to work on all available paths.
[18:13:10] <zeeshan> archivist: i need help identifying
[18:13:15] <zeeshan> whetehr a syncronizer is good or not
[18:13:16] <zeeshan> =/
[18:13:22] <revo14> someone use that program?
[18:13:26] <zeeshan> i dont have much experience identifying good/bad syncros.
[18:13:37] <archivist> nor me
[18:13:43] <zeeshan> grr
[18:13:51] <zeeshan> dog boxes are so much easier
[18:13:55] <zeeshan> none of these fancy syncros in em.
[18:14:06] <archivist> I have also done a land rover box
[18:14:32] <archivist> that has synchos on 2 3 4 but not 1st iirc
[18:14:47] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/nvsW5Dz.jpg
[18:14:51] <zeeshan> this is what my 4th gear syncro looks like
[18:14:58] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/SCVV95r.jpg and 4th gear
[18:15:16] <zeeshan> the syncro i can tell doesn't look worn because i have a new syncro to reference from
[18:15:30] <zeeshan> but i can't tell if the 4th gear dog teeth are worn.
[18:15:34] * JT-Shop_ used to take the cast iron 3 speed out of the 81 C10 and toss out all the transmission parts I had in a big pile and pick the best to put it back together
[18:15:42] <archivist> the clever bit is the spring and brass bit
[18:16:54] <archivist> but that dont look like a cnc bit...get back to the proper job :)
[18:17:32] <zeeshan> lol
[18:19:28] <archivist> I was polishing/ restoring a little press yesterday
[18:19:50] <fogl> ok, thank you. What i am looking for is a base_period hal_module that knows when did the servo_period hal_module triger. How can i achieve that?
[18:20:18] <fogl> micges
[18:22:03] <micges> if it's your custom module then create function that you run at servo-thread and set there only flag that it was executed and this flag can be read and cleared in base period function in the same module
[18:23:36] <micges> fogl: ^^
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[18:25:13] <fogl> micges: i see, good idea, thank you :) ...and what will execute firs, the base_thread module or the servo_thread module. Which one has higher priority?
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[18:29:17] <micges> I have no idea
[18:30:46] <micges> fogl: I think slower thread can be suspended if faster thread is sheduled to run
[18:32:31] <cradek> which executes first is probably not known
[18:32:49] <cradek> but scheduling is rate-monotonic, which means faster threads can interrupt and suspend slower threads
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[20:28:17] <miss0r> I am trying to locate a seller of EDC-XX24 tool collect sets. I am really having a hard time. Do you know where to acquire such?
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