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[00:00:01] <zeeshan> when i first got it
[00:00:09] <zeeshan> it was a nightmare :P
[00:00:17] <zeeshan> but it ended up only needed an e-stop button
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[00:00:20] <zeeshan> and it all worked!
[00:00:26] <zeeshan> sadly it was the last thing i checked
[00:00:33] <zeeshan> so it took 2 days to figure it out
[00:00:34] <MrHindsight> the panel was for 1-phase not 3 phase
[00:00:41] <zeeshan> mine was 1 phase too
[00:00:56] <zeeshan> i recently converted to 3 hp 3 phase
[00:01:17] <zeeshan> MrHindsight: damn it
[00:01:22] <zeeshan> i coulda sent you my whole 1 phase control
[00:01:25] <zeeshan> i'm using none of it
[00:01:28] <zeeshan> its collecting dust in the basement
[00:01:39] <MrHindsight> no biggie
[00:01:41] <zeeshan> including the box
[00:01:44] <zeeshan> if you do one again
[00:01:45] <zeeshan> please ask
[00:01:46] <zeeshan> ill send it
[00:01:48] <zeeshan> just pay for shipping
[00:02:25] <MrHindsight> lathe has been gathering dust for 3 years, was a cheapo since the wiring was messed up plus the gearbox had problems
[00:02:32] <zeeshan> lol
[00:02:32] <zeeshan> dude
[00:02:37] <zeeshan> i have all the quick change gear box
[00:02:39] <zeeshan> parts too
[00:02:41] <zeeshan> using none of it
[00:02:42] <MrHindsight> sheared pin from somebody jamming it under power
[00:02:44] <zeeshan> except the case
[00:03:44] <zeeshan> i only kept the stuff
[00:03:48] <zeeshan> cause i was thinking mayhbe one day
[00:03:51] <MrHindsight> heh, it's just an extra manual lathe for brakes mostly
[00:03:52] <zeeshan> i'll need to use the gears
[00:03:53] <zeeshan> to power somethine up!
[00:04:21] <MrHindsight> skateboard
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[00:04:52] <zeeshan> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/lathe/qcgb.jpg
[00:04:54] <zeeshan> those gears
[00:05:06] <zeeshan> http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p252/turbozee84/lathe/wiring2.jpg
[00:05:10] <zeeshan> thats the control stuff
[00:05:34] <jdh> nice gears. get rid of them.
[00:05:39] <zeeshan> jdh old pic
[00:05:40] <zeeshan> theyre gone
[00:05:47] <zeeshan> im only using the casing
[00:05:47] <zeeshan> lol
[00:05:51] <zeeshan> for weight!
[00:06:02] <MrHindsight> abstract art project
[00:06:14] <zeeshan> haha
[00:06:38] <MrHindsight> this thing is just too soft to cnc for me
[00:06:38] <zeeshan> how abhout
[00:06:41] <zeeshan> free energy project
[00:06:49] <zeeshan> =)
[00:06:51] <jdh> hmm. I have a bunch of lead. I could pour it in my castings for weight.
[00:06:54] * zeeshan trolls
[00:07:01] <jdh> lead seem slike it would dampen also
[00:07:08] <zeeshan> jdh make me ahammer?
[00:07:09] <zeeshan> ;[
[00:08:15] <zeeshan> i wanna wire the vfd power side today
[00:08:16] <zeeshan> but im so lazy
[00:08:17] <zeeshan> :{
[00:08:34] <zeeshan> i got lazy after i maield out my power supplies to cnc4pc
[00:08:47] <zeeshan> i guess i could finish off the spindle wiring
[00:08:51] <zeeshan> and make the index wheel
[00:09:02] <zeeshan> and setup the limit switches before the toroid supply come sback
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[00:56:58] <Tecan> http://i.imgur.com/FxZcjsJ.jpg
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[05:13:34] <Jymmm> How do you flip something over? I see it down on a variety of items in a production line, But I can't find anything to read up on it. Mostly flat things like a tortilla, plate, casino chips, lids, etc, mostly round discs.
[05:13:45] <Jymmm> s/down/done/
[05:14:16] <Valen> locating pins as a rule
[05:14:30] <Jymmm> in the disc?
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[06:46:35] <Deejay> moin
[06:47:36] <SpeedEvil> http://new.livestream.com/spacex/DragonV2 - contains 3d printed rocket engine.
[06:47:42] <SpeedEvil> Now that's proper 3d printing.
[06:47:47] <SpeedEvil> Morning.
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[08:18:59] <miss0r> yestarday morning I was offered a Roland CAMM-3 PNC-3100 for ~1200 USD. Is it worth the money? (only run for 4 hours total, and have been in heated dry storage ever since)
[08:25:35] <Einar1> I would have seen it move in all axes and run the spindle. If it did, I'd stuff $1200 in his pocket, pick up the machine and drive away before he could change his mind.
[08:26:07] <Einar1> Does that make it worth $1200? For me, yes. I don't know your plan and intended use.
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[08:41:02] <SpeedEvil> It is really hard to kill a Decent machine in 4 hours.
[08:41:27] <SpeedEvil> But can be done by a skilled operator.
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[14:08:58] <Jymmm> 4TB ext $159
http://www.frys.com/product/7410405?site=sa:adpages%20page:P35_FRI%20date:053014
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[14:32:01] <Jymmm> JT-Shop__: You know, you could make dashboards for CanAm and make a killing! Just no style to them, maybe even have a place to have built in phone/gps docks, stereo, clock, radar, or even replace the speedo with aftermarket
[14:33:09] <Jymmm> JT-Shop__: even a place for cams too fwd and rear facing (theft/cops, etc)
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[15:00:36] <Jymmm> If you play with a lot of various ISO's
http://isostick.com/
[15:01:24] <Jymmm> No mor eburning cd's or mucking around with usbstick bootloaders
[15:06:04] <Jymmm> Well, sorta...
http://wiki.isostick.com/index.php?title=Tested_Hardware
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[16:39:15] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
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[17:02:31] <zq> that nml interface
[17:02:36] <zq> asdfgrmladsflkj
[17:03:05] <zq> it's almost as if the cpp parts were written in c-with-classes
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[17:12:09] <IchGuckLive> zq: most is written in c
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[17:14:16] <zq> '*.cc' -exec wc -l {} + | tail -n 1
[17:14:16] <zq> 98396 total
[17:14:16] <zq> *13:14:06 ~/dev/machinekit/src> find . -iname '*.c' -exec wc -l {} + | tail -n 1
[17:14:19] <zq> 153044 total
[17:14:29] <zq> *13:13:43 ~/dev/machinekit/src> find . -iname '*.cc' -exec wc -l {} + | tail -n 1 98396 total
[17:15:02] <IchGuckLive> what are you trying to relise
[17:15:03] <zq> the inherent verbosity of c tilts the balance away from it further
[17:15:19] <zq> right now? that most of it is c-with-classes, sort of
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[17:15:33] <zq> before that i was gonna suggest rewriting the nml layer
[17:15:56] <zq> already wrote a(n idiomatic) cpp wrapper around hal, not sure if it would be of interest
[17:16:11] <IchGuckLive> what benefit do you think this is gone get the community
[17:16:35] <zq> dunno, how would code quality benefit the community?
[17:17:11] <IchGuckLive> alot i thin but it is almost rewritten now as the new kernels are going to take place
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[17:20:17] <IchGuckLive> zq querry
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[17:25:35] <CaptHindsight> looks like a fest in Houston the weekend of October 17th
[17:25:55] <zq> j #emc-devel
[17:26:07] <IchGuckLive> #linuxcnc-devel
[17:26:19] <zq> old habits die hard
[17:26:29] <IchGuckLive> O-o
[17:26:34] <IchGuckLive> O.o
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[17:55:28] <IchGuckLive> im off early BYE BBQ here as always
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[19:33:44] <Connor> Dang it.. the shaft of my digital probe is dead-nutz on at 3/8" and won't fit into my Low Profile 3/8" TTS Tool holder..
[19:34:12] <Connor> End mills fit into the tool holder just fine.. but.. they mic out to be around .3745" The shaft mics out to .375"
[19:35:48] <jdh> put it in the freezer
[19:35:55] <Connor> Yea.. doing that now..
[19:36:13] <Connor> I just don't want to lock it in forever.. Probably could drive it out if need be.
[19:36:45] <Connor> I had no idea endmills were undersized..
[19:37:31] <jdh> seems like something that will live there forever?
[19:37:52] <Connor> Most likely.. but, you never know. :)
[19:38:15] <jdh> but another low-profile 3/8" holder
[19:38:20] <Connor> as long as I can unscrew & screw the shaft from the probe...
[19:38:24] <Connor> I should be good.
[19:38:44] <Connor> probe can act as a tool setter too.. and will use it till I finish build mine.
[19:38:52] <jdh> which probe?
[19:39:18] <Connor> Once like CNC4PC sells, only from the guy who makes it.. and not the reseller.
[19:39:33] <Connor> http://www.wildhorse-innovations.com/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=9
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[19:40:13] <archivist> were you expecting +- 0 exactly
[19:40:41] <Connor> archivist: No. I was excepting the shaft to fit into a 3/8" holder just like endmills..
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[19:42:20] <archivist> I person at a previous job used to put +- 0 on his drawings, I asked what he expected, his reply was, they should do the best they could
[19:47:56] <Connor> wonder how long I need to keep it in the freezer...
[19:48:11] <cradek> longer than that
[19:48:32] <jdh> I have some liquid He at work. much faster
[19:48:54] <cradek> you can get a LOT more temperature differential with the oven than with the freezer
[19:48:57] <Connor> longer than what? 10 minutes ?
[19:51:23] <Connor> I guess I could chuck it up in a collet and take some steel wool or emery clothe to it..
[19:51:48] <Connor> flip to around and to the other end a tad more than the main shaft..
[19:52:30] <jdh> put the tool holder in the oven
[19:52:31] <Connor> It's dark colored.. Looks like maybe it was Drill rod and not CRS
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[19:56:31] <CaptHindsight> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tomwang/voltset-worlds-smartest-multimeter-for-smart-devic
[19:57:35] <CaptHindsight> and I was just about to launch my 4 channel digital scope and 10GHz spectrum analyzer dongle
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[19:59:41] <archivist> that is a dumb toy
[20:00:55] <archivist> Connor, if black I bet it is above size
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[20:01:29] <archivist> 1200 grit wet and dry paper to polish it down
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[20:08:30] <archivist> CaptHindsight, I like the claim of a high resolution yet the accuracy is much worse than the fluke
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[20:11:57] <CaptHindsight> looks like anything electronic or electromechanical that can be controlled by a smartphone is popular, no matter how impractical or lousy the implementation
[20:12:55] <PCW> there's a sucker with a smartphone born every second...
[20:14:21] <PCW> I'm sure _some_ of the ideas are useful
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[20:16:36] <archivist> the practical joke will be ringing them up just as they probe a few KV
[20:20:53] <CaptHindsight> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/13588168/papilio-duo-drag-and-drop-fpga-circuit-lab-for-mak?ref=category Spartan 6 duino board
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[20:24:04] <PCW> except that schematics are a giant leap backwards
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[20:32:13] <archivist> google is failing me cannot find any info on
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=mac+press
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[20:34:33] <Jymmm> https://www.google.com/search?q=mac+press+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.colection.archivist.info%2F#q=%22mac+press%22+site:http:%2F%2Fwww.collection.archivist.info%2F
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[20:37:09] <archivist> Jymmm, you need to learn to spell and how to use google site search
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[20:46:24] <Jymmm> archivist: ?
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[20:47:44] <archivist> you spelled collection with one l
[20:48:15] <archivist> and I am trying to find info on other sites not my own
[20:48:16] <Jymmm> wrong link pasted...
https://www.google.com/search?q=mac+press+site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.colection.archivist.info%2F#q=%22mac+press%22+site:http:%2F%2Fwww.collection.archivist.info%2F
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[20:58:09] <tjtr33> PCW leap backwards? is it that you recommend the xilink ide? maybe better control, theres more than connections
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[20:59:29] <Deejay> gn8
[20:59:31] <PCW> Schematic capture has been pretty much abandoned as a serious design entry system for hardware
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[21:01:17] <SpeedEvil> yeah - today everyone uses breadboards full of TTL chips, and OCR.
[21:01:21] <tjtr33> :) tjtr33 runs ICT PLACE under DosBox
[21:01:50] <archivist> ICT PLACE that is a name from the past
[21:02:10] <tjtr33> peels is not fer pizza
[21:03:34] <PCW> scehmatics are perhaps useful for visualization but IMHO not useful for hardware entry above PCB layout anymore
[21:04:55] <archivist> I realise the kiddies of today think in pictures but....they are misguided
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[21:05:41] <PCW> I guess there's a place for the "Labview" type environment but not having the power of a language is very limiting
[21:08:04] <tjtr33> i think in pictures too, sorta basic human thing. pix 'just work' while text is a finesse _after_ the frame is understood
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[21:10:04] <PCW> I sketch stuff out on paper, and then type it in
[21:10:58] <tjtr33> agreed
[21:11:47] <PCW> One issue with schematic capture is portability (or lack of same)
[21:13:04] <tjtr33> ORCAD also runs on DosBox ;)
[21:13:19] <PCW> once you learn this particular whizbang tool, what do you actually know?
[21:14:34] <CaptHindsight> can we get rid of ladder logic while we're at it :)
[21:14:55] <tjtr33> the papilio thing? well kids get started. they can learn vhdl later
https://github.com/hamsternz/IntroToSpartanFPGABook/blob/master/IntroToSpartanFPGABook.pdf
[21:15:04] <PCW> you would have to get rid of electricians
[21:17:57] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, are you using Automation Direct Koyo's? DirectSoft is a text language. mine came with it free, build your own cables tho
[21:18:36] <tjtr33> (no ladder)
[21:18:40] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: picked up a few from flebay
[21:19:02] <CaptHindsight> was using DirectSoft5
[21:19:15] <CaptHindsight> hate it
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[21:20:13] <CaptHindsight> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Software_Products/Programmable_Controller_Software/DirectLOGIC_PLC_Programming_Software_%28DirectSOFT%29/PC-DSOFT5
[21:21:28] <tjtr33> 400$, masochistic!
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[21:21:43] <CaptHindsight> yeah, I didn't pay that
[21:23:04] <tjtr33> wow they charge 250 for the langiuage based one. hope you got one else i can dig mine up for ya
[21:24:06] <tjtr33> used 'em in a shuttle-carousel tool changer ( carousel slide in and out of work area ... was garbage--- wiggly!)
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[21:25:00] <tjtr33> bye
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[21:48:51] <Connor> how hot do I need to get this tool holder do you think?
[21:49:01] <Connor> I just put it in the oven at 350F
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[21:54:22] <SpeedEvil> Calculate.
[21:54:33] <SpeedEvil> What is the coefficient of linear expansion of steel?
[21:54:41] <Connor> Beats me..
[21:54:41] <SpeedEvil> What is the factor you need it to expand.
[21:54:44] <SpeedEvil> Divide.
[21:54:46] <SpeedEvil> Google
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[22:03:30] <CaptHindsight> SpeedEvil:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/linear-expansion-coefficients-d_95.html
[22:04:16] <CaptHindsight> varies over a wide range depending on alloy
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[22:07:15] <CaptHindsight> don't you need to shrink the tool? Heating the tool holder will make it expand making the ID smaller
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[22:13:36] <CaptHindsight> depending on the shape
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[22:14:43] <Connor> No, heading expanded it... just not enough.. it shrunk after I got about 1.5mm of the thing into it..
[22:14:53] <Connor> going to go get some 1200 grit sandpaper.
[22:15:00] <Connor> will polish it..
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[23:32:41] <Connor> Well, couldn't find 1200 at home depot, best I could find was 600.. but, it worked.. got it in the toolholder..
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