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[02:19:48] <icid> anyone machining tonight?
[02:20:03] <XXCoder1> no machine still
[02:20:06] <XXCoder1> you?
[02:21:33] <icid> making a few fixtures for jobs on monday
[02:21:46] <icid> ps: i also work as full time programmer / machinist
[02:21:56] <XXCoder1> nice
[02:22:16] <XXCoder1> cnc is my recent new hobby
[02:22:24] <XXCoder1> still gathering parts to build a cnc router
[02:22:56] <icid> for wood/plastic?
[02:23:07] <icid> do many of you guys have rigid enough setups for metal?
[02:23:08] <XXCoder1> I hope to make it rigid enough for alum
[02:23:26] <XXCoder1> many seem to do. many has large industual type
[02:23:31] <XXCoder1> I'm too poor for that shit lol
[02:23:35] <icid> yeah, why not just a bunch of steel ibeams, rails, ball screw
[02:24:03] <XXCoder1> So far I have entire electric system, SBR rails. I still need ball screws
[02:24:13] <icid> buddy is building one now, pretty sure balsa wood would break it
[02:24:25] <XXCoder1> latter is bit hard, need few hundred bucks
[02:24:33] <icid> ever thought about just buying a used bridgeport...
[02:24:45] <icid> and fitting it with your controller?
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[02:24:59] <XXCoder1> Someone made a pretty big orders in my store so I might be able to afford one. how much would one be?
[02:25:41] <icid> a used bridgeport? crap, you can get those for under 1k. definately won't be pretty though
[02:26:22] <icid> i have one here, picked up for 1,250 with power x,y (no controller) and put a dro on it. thinking about fitting it with some sort of system
[02:27:16] <XXCoder1> 1k is quite expensive
[02:27:32] <XXCoder1> I might just make my machine partial 8020 since I apparently can afford it now.
[02:30:15] <icid> if you want rigid im saying. you could mill inconel with it haha
[02:31:11] <XXCoder1> all bridgeports seemt o be over 2k most times
[02:31:38] <XXCoder1> oh shit
[02:31:39] <XXCoder1> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mazak-VQC-20-50B-CNC-Mill-3-Axis-Vertical-Milling-Machine-w-Mazatrol-CAM-M-2-/191178172209?pt=US_Heavy_Equipment&hash=item2c831b6731
[02:31:58] <icid> mazak, yeah those are awesome. older but yeah
[02:31:58] <XXCoder1> too bad I have no way to bring it.. or even fit in carport LOL
[02:32:05] <icid> yeah thats the thing tho
[02:32:22] <icid> you'd need place for machine oil, air supply and most of all...the power requirements
[02:33:24] <XXCoder1> I think work machines is all bridgeports. well not larger ones like cnc router one that looks like 6' by 10' and one stamper and one water jet cnc
[02:33:36] <XXCoder1> not sure though, never could take a close look
[02:33:52] <icid> we have newer mazaks
[02:34:20] <icid> mori seiki, star, citizen and okuma
[02:35:11] <XXCoder1> I'm no machinist so dont really know those brand names :D
[02:36:10] <XXCoder1> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-CNC-3040Z-DQ-3-Axis-Router-engraving-drilling-milling-machine-engraver-Hot-/201091968673?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ed203eea1
[02:36:19] <XXCoder1> tiny though lol
[02:36:28] <icid> hmmm
[02:36:31] <icid> needs more weight
[02:36:57] <XXCoder1> heh my cnc will be worse shape
[02:37:08] <icid> did you buy a kit?
[02:37:12] <XXCoder1> I'll be lucky to get 0.1 +- precision
[02:37:13] <XXCoder1> nah
[02:37:17] <XXCoder1> building my own
[02:37:20] <XXCoder1> *mm
[02:38:31] <XXCoder1> I got SBR rails though so it might help get decent precisoon. expeically since I plan to buy ball screws set
[02:38:39] <icid> 0.1mm or inch? ha
[02:39:06] <XXCoder1> nah
[02:39:14] <XXCoder1> 0.1 miles ;)
[02:39:39] <XXCoder1> "oh crap my 300mmx600mmx600mm somehow made hole in my car outside garage"
[02:40:16] <icid> neighbors may not like that
[02:40:23] <XXCoder1> yep lol
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[02:40:58] <icid> actually, they won't eitherway once you get that thing routing aluminium. my guess is alot of chatter :P
[02:41:28] <XXCoder1> probably not. good thing I'm deaf ;)
[02:41:54] <XXCoder1> just need real good eye protection. I "hear" and "listen" with my eyes thank you very much.
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[02:41:58] <icid> totally deaf?
[02:42:18] <XXCoder1> yeah techinically my ears work just fine
[02:42:30] <XXCoder1> its nerves thats totally bad. genetics is fun.
[02:42:41] <icid> years of hearing 1" shell mills plunging hs into metal has made my hearing quite poor. eye sight is just poor genetics haha
[02:43:11] <XXCoder1> tsk tsk wear some ear protection man
[02:43:15] <icid> i listen with my hand on the machine, you can feel when she likes the cut
[02:43:51] <XXCoder1> I wonder if I made myself "deaf" (made ears nonfunctional or degraded) by loud noises I didn't hear.
[02:44:26] <icid> hmmm...burst ear drum?
[02:44:37] <XXCoder1> I did sit right in front of giant speaker to read a book (not much of dancer). it was great massage but didnt hear anything as usual lol
[02:44:40] <XXCoder1> nah
[02:44:53] <XXCoder1> theres lot other possibilities
[02:45:05] <XXCoder1> your hearing has certain damage for one
[02:45:26] <icid> well, on the brightside, losing hearing vs losing sight...
[02:45:40] <XXCoder1> ironically blind think other way
[02:45:43] <icid> i think there is still luck out there for ya, at least you don't hear the wife nag
[02:45:55] <XXCoder1> trust me theres other ways
[02:46:00] <icid> haha
[02:46:14] <XXCoder1> Im single but know few married deaf people.
[02:46:20] <XXCoder1> like say my bro and his wife lol
[02:46:39] <icid> maybe its just severe selective hearing?
[02:46:43] <icid> or genetic haha
[02:46:55] <XXCoder1> nah genetics. entire family is deaf
[02:47:18] <XXCoder1> my dad was deafened by serious illness but geneties is from mom
[02:47:45] <icid> always sucks, sorry to hear man
[02:47:53] <XXCoder1> why?
[02:48:12] <XXCoder1> I find other fun genetic problems I have to be much more annoying than deaf
[02:48:25] <XXCoder1> I'm only one to have those fun issues too :P
[02:48:39] <icid> eitherway, makes running the router overnight not a big deal ha
[02:49:48] <XXCoder1> for me not a big deal but neighbors might complain so I wouldnt.
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[02:54:27] <XXCoder1> anyway
[02:54:44] <XXCoder1> I hope to make my cnc rigid enough for milling alum
[02:54:52] <XXCoder1> so i could make parts for next cnc
[02:55:07] <XXCoder1> also can sell nice alum artworks
[02:57:30] <XXCoder1> I researched how to make quite rigid gantry with wood so I belive I can make it
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[03:00:48] <icid> wood yeah
[03:01:29] <icid> if you're milling aluminium you'll need some meat to the thing. sorry, had to check and see if my endmill was still there haha
[03:01:31] <XXCoder1> I scavaged good amount of wood and damn good quality lamated wood sheets
[03:01:53] <XXCoder1> and my work I asked if I could grab bunch of wood from wood bin and they said yep
[03:01:54] <XXCoder1> whoo
[03:02:03] <icid> wait, so you're going to build the gantry with wood frame?
[03:02:06] <XXCoder1> gonna bring saw though most peices therte is huge!
[03:02:42] <XXCoder1> more or less. I plan to cheat quite a lot so even with wood frame it'll be very rigid where it counts.
[03:03:20] <XXCoder1> now that I have pretty good fund I might try make entire gantry 8020
[03:04:08] <XXCoder1> well most 8020 with some lamated wood
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[03:23:21] <icid> lol
[03:23:38] <icid> good for a prototype, not sure about the metal milling
[03:23:54] <XXCoder1> yeah probably wont work
[03:23:59] <XXCoder1> but wood opnly is fine too
[03:24:07] <icid> yeah
[03:25:49] <icid> guy here build his from the kit and even added more to the frame, the aluminium rails and such. pretty sure he still isn't rigid enough.
[03:26:37] <XXCoder1> maybe is slow enough
[03:26:52] <XXCoder1> just need limited number of alum milling to make certain parts
[03:27:51] <icid> yeah. well it should be fun. once you get like 3/4 of the way done, you come up with all these other ideas and they progressively get more expensive and complex. its an addiction, a rewarding one.
[03:29:08] <XXCoder1> :) I just hope my first cnc can do basic stuff I can sell
[03:29:22] <XXCoder1> some of eaf culture specific stuff as well as other stuff
[03:29:54] <icid> once its built you can do whatever. fit it for laser. 3d print.
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[03:30:30] <XXCoder1> yeah
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[03:34:11] <AndChat507> evening folks
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[03:34:43] <XXCoder1> hey generic android user
[03:35:13] <AndChat507> yup that's me generic...
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[03:36:04] <AndChat507> lemme try this again...
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[03:38:15] <PetefromTn> evening folks...
[03:38:28] <XXCoder1> hey pete
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[03:38:46] <PetefromTn> that's better....
[03:38:53] <FrankZappa> hallo
[03:38:58] <PetefromTn> whatsgoinon?
[03:39:03] * FrankZappa passes the peace pipe around
[03:39:15] <FrankZappa> Im designing some newfangled idea.
[03:39:16] <PetefromTn> takes a long toke...
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[03:39:38] <FrankZappa> I also learned that person #3 in my group, who is new ot me, has lots of regional connections.
[03:39:45] <FrankZappa> non-bluegrass
[03:40:08] <XXCoder1> pete was talking about my future cnc hegh
[03:40:13] <FrankZappa> more like contemporary electronic
[03:40:55] <PetefromTn> that's cool....I managed to blow up my ckc- last week..
[03:41:05] <PetefromTn> cnc
[03:41:55] <XXCoder1> cnc AND ckc wow what happened? ;)
[03:42:33] <PetefromTn> well I had converted the spindle control to modbus awhile back.
[03:42:58] <PetefromTn> then one day I realized that the spindle motor fan was not turning on.
[03:43:36] <PetefromTn> I realized that we had removed the control wires that did that to use the single wire for the modbus.
[03:44:13] <PetefromTn> well after discussing how to switch it back using the relay we used before.
[03:45:08] <PetefromTn> I got screwed up with my wiring and accidentally hooked the 24 volt power lead to the 110 volt AC motor voltage.
[03:45:15] <XXCoder1> ow
[03:45:21] <XXCoder1> magic smoke from spidle?
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[03:45:57] <PetefromTn> this immediately fried the 24v power supply and also took out the field voltage side of my 7i 77 card.
[03:46:16] <XXCoder1> 7i thing cnc controller?
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[03:46:43] <PetefromTn> no spindle is fine actually this was just a relay that controls the fan for cooling the spindle motor.
[03:47:13] <PetefromTn> yeah the 7i77 mesa card.
[03:47:24] <PetefromTn> NOT GOOD
[03:48:05] <XXCoder1> sigh. magic smoke. tend to be not fun magic
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[03:48:26] <PetefromTn> I am getting a new 5i25/7i77 card delivered to the shop to get it fixed.
[03:49:10] <PetefromTn> already replaced a brand new 24 volt power supply in there along with a couple relays.
[03:49:49] <PetefromTn> in all it is gonna cost me about three hundred bucks assuming there is nothing else wrong.
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[03:51:08] <Connor> PetefromTn: Getting BOTH 5i25 and 7i77 ?
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[03:54:58] <Connor> PetefromTn: Getting BOTH 5i25 and 7i77 ?
[03:55:39] <PetefromTn> yeah well I need this bitch back working again and I don't want to pay shipping twice.
[03:55:49] <Connor> I understand that.
[03:56:10] <PetefromTn> gonna order them Monday and have them overnight shipped here.
[03:56:40] <PetefromTn> just praying that fixes it.
[03:57:21] <Connor> Couldn't image what else would be wrong.
[03:58:35] <PetefromTn> well actually everything is working all three axis drives are coming on the spindle drive and the coolant pump drivve all come on and seem to be working.
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[03:59:11] <Connor> That's good.
[03:59:30] <PetefromTn> the computer comes on and boots up.
[03:59:51] <PetefromTn> tries to load LinuxCNC but gets an error looking for the 7i77 card.
[04:00:53] <PetefromTn> spoke with Pete from mesa earlier and he thinks the 3.3 volt regulator is blown on the card. he said if I sent it to him he might be able to fix it.
[04:01:42] <PetefromTn> if that happens I will then have two working combos in case I get a good deal on a cnc lathe somewhere.
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[04:04:17] <Connor_iPad> Hopefully that will fix you up.
[04:04:38] <Connor_iPad> I really should get a 5i25 card.
[04:04:58] <PetefromTn> can't believe what a freaking dumbass meatheaded hamfisted moronic pathetically stupid move that was but hey what can I say....
[04:05:23] <Connor_iPad> Sh!t happens.
[04:05:54] <PetefromTn> shit happens when you don't concentrate on what you are screwing with.
[04:06:29] <PetefromTn> you shoulda seen the fireworks. it was amazingly depressing.
[04:07:28] <Connor_iPad> Probably about as bad as when I drilled into a conduit with a LIVe 440v line that was suppose to be dead.
[04:07:45] <icid> lol
[04:08:12] <PetefromTn> what surprised me the most is I searched eBay for a 24 volt power supply with the same specs and the one I ordered is a different brand but it is virtually identical in every way including the mounting holes.
[04:08:27] <Connor_iPad> Nice
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[04:09:07] <PetefromTn> It is the exact same part I tell ya right down to the components on the board.
[04:09:16] <XXCoder1> PetefromTn: jope your repair is successfuk
[04:09:48] <PetefromTn> thanks I hope it is successfuk as well...hehe
[04:10:06] <XXCoder1> :)
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[04:11:55] <PetefromTn> In the mean time I have a couple jobs waiting for me so it sucks pretty good. I sure picked a great time to decide to lunch my mill.
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[04:12:48] <XXCoder1> is there ever a good time to break a mill?
[04:12:56] <XXCoder1> it dont tend to break during lull times
[04:13:00] <icid> yes, right before you scrap it
[04:13:08] <XXCoder1> and when its busy.. well of course its not good time
[04:13:17] <XXCoder1> lol
[04:13:20] <icid> but no, usually ours is when the servo dies right as i'm finishing a setup on a really hot job
[04:14:32] <PetefromTn> its a pisser huh...
[04:14:36] <icid> but really, the thing i worry about the most is worn wires
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[04:15:09] <icid> because what happens is...15k goes out of bank account over a crappy ground wire that wore out from millions of peck drilling cycles
[04:15:28] <PetefromTn> me too which is why I gutted this bitch and replaced basically everything. just did not count on frying it up myself.
[04:16:21] <icid> not really frying, its called learning ;)
[04:16:56] <PetefromTn> I must say that with the Mesa cards when I lunched it I am only out a couple hundred whereas if it was the original control it would have easily been a couple grand.
[04:17:20] <icid> haha
[04:17:28] <icid> trust me, i know
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[04:18:51] <Connor_iPad> Got my shelf installed. Trying to decide how to lay the tools out.
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[04:19:19] <Connor_iPad> And how to setup the tool holders.
[04:19:24] <icid> our screw machines have four encoders, two servos and two convertors
[04:19:31] <PetefromTn> yeah unfortunately so do I. I tried to work wit the original control but that shit is crazy expensive.
[04:19:34] <icid> thats just in the main box
[04:20:25] <icid> our mazak and okuma mills have two each, one died last year. it was 15k and best part? they take the dead encoder for rebuild so they can sell it again. so almost 20k.
[04:20:49] <XXCoder1> fun
[04:20:54] <PetefromTn> jeez that's freaking insane.
[04:21:21] <icid> gosiger field service reps are a joke too
[04:21:33] <icid> so i'll take a card over that anyday :P
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[04:22:04] <PetefromTn> I know these machines make you some cash but sometimes I wonder how they make any money if they have a machine that is not entire reliable
[04:22:18] <icid> oh they're reliable
[04:22:30] <XXCoder1> except when theyre not eh ;)
[04:22:32] <XXCoder1> jk
[04:22:38] <icid> i have six swiss machines and two mills running right now
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[04:23:11] <icid> swiss machines have auto bar feeders and mills have robot cell with pallet changers
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[04:24:03] <icid> yeah, costs more of them being down than buying all new drives for all the machines haha
[04:24:06] <XXCoder1> I sometimes really wonder hiw manby people here is like me
[04:25:22] <icid> like you?
[04:25:56] <XXCoder1> yeah hobby cnc
[04:26:07] <Connor_iPad> Allot.
[04:26:08] <XXCoder1> small scale and starting up
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[04:26:54] <XXCoder1> ol' mean peer
[04:27:01] <XXCoder1> always resets connections
[04:27:02] <icid> i'm willing to bet all
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[04:27:57] <icid> its always a hobby. one that can make you money.
[04:28:06] <XXCoder1> lol ok
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[04:29:08] <XXCoder1> write error. thats new one by peer
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[05:29:46] <paul_liebenberg> Hi, had a computer failure - now trying to get back up and running. Re installed linuxcnc, copied my old .ini file. When I home, Z axis backs off the limit switch, but readout does not zero, goes to other number (1.032 i think) X and Y are working as expect them to. Can someone point me in the right direction?
[05:29:52] <paul_liebenberg> http://hastebin.com/abiwoyepij.avrasm
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[05:43:25] <MrHindsight> paul_liebenberg: did you also copy over your HAL file?
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[05:44:29] <paul_liebenberg> yeah, i'm pretty sure i did
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[05:45:49] <MrHindsight> z is the only axis that is acting up?
[05:47:52] <MrHindsight> you are using HOME_SEQUENCE = 1 for X and Y, but HOME_SEQUENCE = 0 for Z
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[05:55:51] <paul_liebenberg> Zis the only one that acts up. Z homes first, then x and y together.
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[06:26:38] <archivist> paul_liebenberg, using a parallel port?
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[06:55:36] <Deejay> moin
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[07:01:10] <MrSunshine> MrHindsight, you sure you set the home offset to the right way ?
[07:01:15] <MrSunshine> (should not be -0.1) ?
[07:01:48] <MrSunshine> it moves to the switch, gets a signal, then backs off until it loses signal again ? =)
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[07:02:36] <MrSunshine> im just speculating here so :p
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[07:04:27] <MrSunshine> is the latch velocity going the right way ?
[07:05:04] <MrSunshine> as the others have search vel negative and latch positive, and Z has search vel positive and latch positive ... shouldnt the latch be negative on that? =)
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[07:36:39] <ebrummer> any chance Mr. Peter Wallace is awake right now?
[07:41:52] <ebrummer> figured not. take care all
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[08:56:17] <miss0r> Does anyone here have experience with the arboga u2508 spindle nut? I need to find a 3mt er25 tool collect, with some sort of sleeve that fits inside this spindle nut, to help keep the tool collect in place.
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[13:42:10] <Loetmichel> *solder* *tinker*... soo, first PSU board nearly done. then second, and hopefully tomorrow the transformers and 10 turn pors will be delivered... ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14898
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[14:03:59] <CaptHindsight> MrSunshine: I think you're asking the wrong person :)
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[15:02:38] <paul_liebenberg> archivist: sorry fell asleep last night, yes, I am using a parallel port.
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[15:09:07] <archivist_> some parallel ports vary in pull up resistors so may work differently, may just need to add a resistor
[15:10:23] <paul_liebenberg> Mr sunshine, It act like I think it should, moves to the limit switch, then backs off and stops. DRO just does not reset to zero. Frustrating because it worked on the old computer.
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[15:47:51] <paul_liebenberg> Is there a way to manually reset home counter to zero after the homing process has finished?
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[15:58:51] <sliptonic> Hey seb_kuzminsky do you have time for a private conversation?
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[16:36:29] <XXCoder1> what the hell
http://www.amazon.com/80-20-Inc-Series-Bearing/dp/B006YVZ4AU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_indust_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=00CBH82XM0Z14P5P202D
[16:36:59] <XXCoder1> probably cant take cnc stress though
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[16:46:21] <Loetmichel> XXCoder1: first: its not with ball bearings. the glide type liear slides are not "balcklas-free" and tip a bit on its rails.
[16:46:45] <XXCoder1> yeah figured it was bad for cnc router
[16:46:59] <Loetmichel> second: the aluminium extrusions are not ground to fit, the slots are not guranteed to hold that kind of precision
[16:47:20] <Loetmichel> and usually an aluminium extrision tends to be bent like a banana
[16:48:25] <Loetmichel> so: will work for positioning pourposes, but not for anythin which needs 0,1mm and better precision.
[16:48:25] <XXCoder1> ok
[16:49:16] <Loetmichel> besides: the PTFE/POM that is used as a glide there is not as rigid as a steel ball. it may flex in the slots and add to the distorsion
[16:50:09] <XXCoder1> lol figuring if I should do partial 8020 or not
[16:50:15] <XXCoder1> probably not though
[16:50:32] <XXCoder1> wish I had samples in hand to check some stuff.
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[16:51:40] <archivist_> I rate them -10000
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[16:52:02] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:52:31] <IchGuckLive> paul_liebenberg: still online
[16:52:39] <XXCoder1> hey ich
[16:52:44] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[16:52:58] <IchGuckLive> you got a homing issue on frech install
[16:53:08] <XXCoder1> ZI finally got funds :) I plan to order ball screws fairly soon
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[16:55:36] <XXCoder1> http://www.ebay.com/itm/250451252435
[16:56:33] <IchGuckLive> XXCoder1: next tak to you if you got runing desigb
[16:57:46] <XXCoder1> I do have couple ideas
[16:58:00] <IchGuckLive> you got since 2month
[16:58:37] <XXCoder1> yeah slow progress lol
[16:59:08] <IchGuckLive> someone shoudt have told liebenberg that there are some issues in his config files
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[17:11:07] <MrSunshine> CaptHindsight, haha ok :PO
[17:13:11] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: 2 months is nothing, I have couple ideas (+ various poorly thought out purchases) for the last 6 months at least ;)
[17:13:45] <kfoltman> + half built prototypes that kinda do something
[17:15:00] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: he's still around, point away
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[17:17:35] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: did so 2 times since entering
[17:18:08] <IchGuckLive> paul_liebenberg: still online ?
[17:18:13] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[17:18:53] <CaptHindsight> heh
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[17:19:14] <IchGuckLive> he copied all the files but did not remove the var and or the var.bak
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[17:19:33] <IchGuckLive> so the homing is intersepted by some vars
[17:20:05] <CaptHindsight> ah, cache-like cruft
[17:20:49] <IchGuckLive> also he did not followed the standard rule on parport backlash
[17:21:14] <CaptHindsight> so he could also just change the machine name and then use the contents of his HAL and INI
[17:22:03] <IchGuckLive> this ini seams to come from 2.4.x
[17:22:20] <IchGuckLive> he installed 2.5.0 and maybe dident update to 2.5.3
[17:22:36] <IchGuckLive> so he got a G92 performance running
[17:22:37] <CaptHindsight> whats the standard rule for backlash? I never used it since my machines have zero lash
[17:22:55] <IchGuckLive> no 125% 200
[17:24:55] <IchGuckLive> kfoltman: that is the strandard but he owns only a pc
[17:26:22] <kfoltman> IchGuckLive: uh, hard to do 3 axis linear motion with only components from a single PC...
[17:26:35] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[17:26:36] <kfoltman> even if you sacrifice all the disk drives ;)
[17:26:48] <IchGuckLive> it works
[17:27:00] <IchGuckLive> ive seen 2DVD running linuxcnc
[17:27:53] <IchGuckLive> Dont missunderstand me im happy he is arround !
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[17:30:47] <IchGuckLive> By the way there is a big probability that i will be offline for a long time from 30.Aug this year going to world trip in the outback
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[17:33:37] <IchGuckLive> ve7it: is this your radio callsign
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[17:34:19] <ve7it> yes... Canadian callsign for British Columbia (VE7)
[17:34:44] <IchGuckLive> i dont think i can retch canada from here
[17:34:53] <IchGuckLive> Dl6iam
[17:35:24] <ve7it> It is a long way... I am on Vancouver Island off the west coast of Canada
[17:35:57] <IchGuckLive> thats near half the earth diameter
[17:36:47] <ve7it> I usually just check into the local net here on 3.729Mhz in the evenings...
[17:38:02] <IchGuckLive> Saskatchewan 2 Meter Net
[17:38:31] <ve7it> 14 or 21Mhz would be better, but I dont have a beam antenna. I am using a 85m loop of wire
[17:38:31] <IchGuckLive> BC Public Service
[17:38:37] <ve7it> yes
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[17:39:05] <IchGuckLive> i only got 10m local now setup as i do so many other things
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[17:40:16] <IchGuckLive> ve7it: its early sunday at your home
[17:40:25] <IchGuckLive> here sun is going down
[17:40:50] <ve7it> 10:40am, a nice sunny day
[17:40:58] <IchGuckLive> tomorrow summer is starting here as the weather ladie told today
[17:41:01] <ve7it> about 18C
[17:41:12] <IchGuckLive> 24C here
[17:42:04] <IchGuckLive> ve7it: whas has been left after the big olympic winter event
[17:44:03] <ve7it> lots of the sports venues... speed skating rink, luge(sp?) track, olympic village is now all private condos...
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[17:44:33] <IchGuckLive> so it has been a boost to the region
[17:45:07] <IchGuckLive> ive seen VE7QJ earl on 40m in 2009
[17:47:25] <IchGuckLive> ok im off for today IF Anyone can direct libenbert to my online timings at 7pmDayli + Berlin time woudt be good
[17:47:26] <ve7it> the call seems familiar, but I dont know Earl
[17:47:41] <ve7it> cheers
[17:47:55] <IchGuckLive> BYE have a nice sunday where ever you are in the world
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[18:31:48] <zq_> is there a way to compile without tcl dependencis?
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[19:06:04] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfdcJlfUGxo#t=57 interesting slow vat separation method for bottom projection SLA/DLP
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[19:23:29] <XXCoder1> woder if linuxcnc can run on
http://crunchbang.org/about
[19:23:38] <XXCoder1> I like bare OS sometimes
[19:25:07] <archivist_> tias
[19:27:45] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder1: if all the dependencies are met and if you get a working kernel
[19:28:08] <XXCoder1> yeah bit too much hassle for linuxcnc when basic install just works.
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[19:28:48] <CaptHindsight> http://www.linuxmint.com/
[19:29:02] <XXCoder1> I wasnt too impressed with mint
[19:29:08] <XXCoder1> but then it was year ago
[19:29:12] <CaptHindsight> the debian version with gnome is closest
[19:29:32] <XXCoder1> I could just replace desktop with xfce
[19:29:37] <XXCoder1> takes pretty lot load off
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[19:30:39] <CaptHindsight> I never have load issues using AMD and integrated graphics
[19:31:39] <CaptHindsight> play HD video and games while running Linuxcnc
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[19:35:43] <zq_> lol
[19:35:44] <zq_> guys
[19:35:52] <zq_> i'm writing an $EMCDISPLAY in haskell
[19:35:56] <zq_> so much fun
[19:37:07] <Jymmm> Whats the right phrasing when you have correct linear motion, but the tool (spindle, plasma, laser, edm, etc) it's operating in conjunction with the motion? Let's say the plasma doesn't fire when it's suppose to but only in the X-Axis as example.
[19:37:25] <Jymmm> s/it's/isn't/
[19:38:54] <Jymmm> is that trajectory?
[19:39:05] <Jymmm> (doens't seems right though)
[19:39:59] <Einar1> Bad G-code?
[19:40:40] <CaptHindsight> not in sync
[19:41:03] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Yeah, that's close. but not exactly it.
[19:41:34] <CaptHindsight> depends on what is wrong and what you wish to describe
[19:41:37] <Einar1> If not in exact stop motion I guess that might happen.
[19:45:01] <zeeshan> 5" Jaw Width 6" Jaw Capacity 3 1/4" Throat Capacity
[19:45:09] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/XYidSO0.jpg
[19:45:12] <zeeshan> how much would you guys pay for that?
[19:45:24] <zeeshan> (im trying to gage what a fair price is) :P
[19:45:33] <zeeshan> guy is selling for $50
[19:47:05] <pcw_home> No hammer dings on the handle is a +
[19:47:56] <zeeshan> jaw capacity = how much it opens right?
[19:47:57] <zeeshan> ;p
[19:48:08] <pcw_home> Must be
[19:48:10] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Hey, are you familure with trajectory planning by chance?
[19:48:24] <zeeshan> than ku
[19:48:31] <pcw_home> Only a bit
[19:48:43] <Jymmm> pcw_home: PM ?
[19:48:53] <pcw_home> Aight
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[19:59:35] <Loetmichel> *cough* *sniff* *eyes watering*... my wife is a bit over the top with the balkony plants. again. and the little red ones in the middle are bad boys... *lips are slowly gaining back feel* ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14901
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[20:08:17] <DaViruz> pcw_home: what kind of shipping costs can i expect for a 5i25+7i76-kit to sweden?
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[20:10:42] <pcw_home> USPS is cheapest (The web store shipping prices are broken ATM will try and fix these next week)
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[20:18:59] <micges> pcw_home: DaViruz: I think USPS won't do the duties
[20:19:04] <micges> but it's cheapest
[20:19:28] <DaViruz> that's not a problem
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[20:35:01] <XXCoder1> https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/10352752_441950582616517_5572913085628434278_n.jpg
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[20:36:46] <XXCoder1> my camera is aging. getting grainy :(
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[20:43:23] <Deejay> gn8
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[21:10:42] <yoshimitsuspeed> I could use a little more help if anyone has the time.
[21:10:44] <yoshimitsuspeed> Replies here or in the thread work for me. I am really hoping I can get this thing moving on it's own today.
[21:10:46] <yoshimitsuspeed> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/27837-my-build-and-questions#47035
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[21:34:46] <kfoltman> XXCoder1: I think it's just low light causing high ISO
[21:35:00] <XXCoder1> hmm maybe
[21:35:11] <kfoltman> high gain = high noise
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[21:37:51] <XXCoder1> yeah. it had some sunlight but guess it wast enough, with frosrted glass
[21:39:04] <Jymmm> Are those chinese scope any good?
[21:47:30] <Tom_itx> oscilloscope?
[21:47:40] <Tom_itx> rikol sp? seem to be
[21:49:00] <Jymmm> that's what I'm hearing too
[21:49:22] <Tom_itx> rigol
[21:50:11] <Tom_itx> a few guys in #avr have m
[21:50:13] <Tom_itx> em
[21:50:30] <Tom_itx> http://www.dx.com/p/rigol-ds1052e-5-6-tft-lcd-50mhz-2-channel-digital-color-storage-oscilloscope-30573#.U3krEXZ-iQA
[21:51:02] <Tom_itx> there's a hack for it for 100Mhz but it strains the ADC so i'd suggest if you want 100Mhz, buy 100Mhz
[21:52:40] <Jymmm> I think I'd do amazon
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[21:53:01] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmJ2pZloW18
[21:53:06] <Tom_itx> they ordered from dx with no problems
[21:53:14] <Tom_itx> i've always had good luck with them
[21:53:23] <Tom_itx> amazon is just a bigger name
[21:53:39] <Tom_itx> still just a broker
[21:53:44] <Jymmm> http://www.amazon.com/SDS7102-Digital-Oscilloscope-2-channel-interface/dp/B006G54K3G
[21:55:15] <Tom_itx> 4.5 star with 23 reviews
[21:55:38] <Tom_itx> Rigol is 5 star with 39
[21:56:04] <Tom_itx> if you're staring at the night sky...
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[22:21:15] <Jymmm> Tom_itx:
http://www.amazon.com/Tektronix-TDS1002B-Oscilloscope-Bandwidth-Monochrome/dp/B00A4LKBZY/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[22:22:44] <Tom_itx> do you need 100Mhz or is 50 enough?
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[22:23:09] <Tom_itx> that's more than the 100Mhz Rigol
[22:23:10] <Jymmm> I think 50 would be enough, that one is 60
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[22:23:28] <Tom_itx> the Rigol 50 is 300ish
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[22:38:36] <MrHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hantek-DSO5102P-Digital-Oscilloscope-100MHz-1Gs-2CH-7-TFT-USB-Lab-/141248679561 I see these at the markets in China
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[22:45:37] <MrHindsight> http://www.openhantek.org/ this looks interesting as well
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