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[00:33:28] <XXCoder> ot last of my electrics package
[00:33:42] <XXCoder> the oh shit button and limits
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[01:11:27] <PetefromTn_> Hey Folks..
[01:11:41] <XXCoder> yo
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[01:12:46] <PetefromTn_> yoyo
[01:12:59] <PetefromTn_> I got a visit from the Brown Santa today LOL
[01:14:09] <PetefromTn_> I am an airgun junkie and I bought a nice clean used rifle from an airgun classifieds site.
[01:14:42] <PetefromTn_> Just got it here and it came packaged in the original box and it is SWEET!
[01:15:15] <PetefromTn_> Been shooting it across the shop at about 12 yards and it is pretty impressive so far.
[01:15:42] <PetefromTn_> Still got a LOT of work to do to it and the trigger needs to be adjusted it is lawyer heavy.
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[01:16:22] <PetefromTn_> I also got some new parts for the CNC. I managed to blow up my damn 24v power supply the other day screwing with the spindle motor fan like a dumbass.
[01:16:39] <PetefromTn_> Got a brand new on here as well as some new relays I needed.
[01:16:52] <PetefromTn_> It was like Christmas at my house this afternoon hehe
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[01:32:00] <PetefromTn_> Well Gn8 folks.
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[02:45:18] <zeeshan> jdh you there?
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[02:51:16] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/Is0LpSD.jpg
[02:51:23] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/EgV83V7.jpg
[02:51:25] <zeeshan> so thats what im dealing with
[02:51:26] <XXCoder> hey
[02:51:30] <zeeshan> i think im gonna make a long ass plate
[02:51:34] <zeeshan> that cantilevers off the carriage
[02:51:42] <XXCoder> why buy so long screw?
[02:52:11] <zeeshan> so it doesnt have to ride within the slot
[02:52:14] <zeeshan> cause it doesnt fit in there
[02:52:19] <XXCoder> ah
[02:52:28] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/nw7kPgh.jpg
[02:52:32] <zeeshan> it doesnt work too well at all
[02:52:38] <XXCoder> oh you got any link that explains how to grease up SBR bearing blocks?
[02:52:56] <zeeshan> sbr is the one without balls in it
[02:52:56] <zeeshan> right
[02:53:13] <XXCoder> no its supported rod type
[02:53:22] <zeeshan> yea but it has no ball bearings in it
[02:53:24] <XXCoder> its blocks has bearing balls
[02:53:35] <zeeshan> oh
[02:54:02] <XXCoder> be back in few mins
[02:54:06] <zeeshan> i dont see em being too different than normal ball screws
[02:56:13] <zeeshan> the machines at work had a different lube for way and different lube for ball screws
[02:56:17] <zeeshan> i know it wasn't grease
[02:56:26] <zeeshan> it was viscious oil of some sort!
[02:56:55] <zeeshan> http://www.thomsonlinear.com/downloads/articles/design_engineer_guide_selecting_lubricant_ball_screws_taen.pdf
[02:58:55] <zeeshan> looks like grease would work as well :P
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[03:09:59] <XXCoder> thanks
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[03:12:02] <XXCoder> its for ballscrews
[03:12:36] <XXCoder> http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/657536387/2pcs-25mm-SBR25-1000mm-Linear-Bearing-Rails-4pcs-SBR25UU-Linear-Motion-Bearing-Blocks-kit.jpg_350x350.jpg
[03:12:39] <XXCoder> this is sbr
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[03:29:34] <Connor> zeeshan: Looks like the but fits to me...What's the problem ?
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[06:49:03] <Deejay> moin
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[11:35:07] <jdh> so, who's making something interesting with pics ( I need entertainment)
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[12:06:55] <jthornton> write me a minimal component in c
[12:07:17] <Tom_itx> to do what?
[12:08:00] <jthornton> create some pins and parameters
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[12:22:41] <archivist> erm just follow that thread on the list :)
[12:24:49] <archivist> I think people run away from C like I run away from Python
[12:25:45] <Tom_itx> thread?
[12:26:03] <jdh> I used to prefer C to pretty much anything
[12:26:32] <Tom_itx> about the only c i've done was for µC
[12:26:58] <Tom_itx> would take a while to figure out all the hooks to lcnc
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[12:28:32] <archivist> [Emc-developers] Info on writing a component in C
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[12:39:35] <jthornton> I all ready deleted it :(
[12:41:50] <jthornton> oh I found them, thanks archivist
[12:42:08] <archivist> search that on google the online archives have it
[12:42:49] <archivist> I was wondering as it is a current topic :)
[12:44:27] <jthornton> I delete them pretty fast...
[12:45:21] <archivist> I use gmail no deletion needed
[12:46:15] <archivist> hard work to fill You are currently using 4395 MB (28%) of your 15360 MB
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[13:06:11] <Jymmm> archivist: Run a couple VM's, then youu'll be up to 98% Used in no time like me
[13:06:51] <archivist> VMs do not use gmail space
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[13:08:48] <Jymmm> Oh, I thought RAM, but VM's could use gmail via FUSE =)
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[16:20:39] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:22:08] <IchGuckLive> jdh: still entertaining
[16:26:29] <jdh> I am?
[16:26:57] <IchGuckLive> you searched for fun work today
[16:27:19] <IchGuckLive> im doing a bew house plateting
[16:27:47] <IchGuckLive> got rows and colens and color plates want a most wild pattern on recorce
[16:28:14] <IchGuckLive> will do it at pypil on tkinter frame
[16:29:59] <IchGuckLive> http://www.profibook.info/produkte/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/108x81/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/P/f/Pfaelzer_Pflaster_3.jpg
[16:30:16] <IchGuckLive> tere are at most 5 colors standard is 3
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[16:50:43] <IchGuckLive> we expect summer very hot to come next week ;-)
[16:53:18] <IchGuckLive> firer all over in california
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[17:04:46] <gene78> advice needed, 1/16th inch pipe stuck in similar hole, carrying modern oils to thrust bearings
[17:05:02] <MrHindsight> http://3dprint.com/3318/general-electric-3d-print-india/ after they develop the tech in Cincinnati
[17:06:02] <gene78> pipe needs sealed into drilled hole, I have loctite g02, how oil resistant is it?
[17:06:08] <IchGuckLive> gene78: why is there a on flow oil is it a tretrofit
[17:06:41] <IchGuckLive> loctide 542 is my faforite
[17:07:04] <MrHindsight> depends on the oil Are you applying it to a clean surface before contact with oil?
[17:07:11] <IchGuckLive> MrHindsight: there are more and more carrying thad consept over the world
[17:07:24] <MrHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsXuOzXSBLc
[17:07:25] <gene78> yes, to ball nuts on axis screws from an accessable location via 1/16" weed eaqter fuel hose
[17:07:27] <IchGuckLive> here they are blooming
[17:07:52] <gene78> will be clean when
[17:08:17] <MrHindsight> IchGuckLive: sure, but the propaganda here is that it will help keep local jobs since parts will be printed on demand near it's point of use
[17:08:33] <gene78> i apply it, otherwise i also have some superglue too
[17:08:34] <MrHindsight> but that isn't what's happening at all
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[17:09:14] <gene78> 1/16" brass tube is to be glued in
[17:10:14] <IchGuckLive> MrHindsight: agree on that have been visiting monday last week a shop at 120 printers running
[17:10:21] <gene78> I also have Permatex thread locker red.
[17:10:42] <gene78> So which should I use
[17:10:45] <gene78> ?
[17:10:48] <IchGuckLive> gene78: i se loctite 542 is realy expensiv in the usa
[17:11:28] <gene78> yeah, seems to be made of unobtainium locally too
[17:12:13] <archivist> I prefer press fit over glue
[17:12:31] <IchGuckLive> sorry as i only use that one i can not tell others
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[17:12:42] <archivist> or better an O ring clamped
[17:12:47] <gene78> Getting a press fit there is like fitting a hen for false teeth
[17:13:20] <IchGuckLive> gene78: go dfor what you got and see if ypou can make a test system do so
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[17:15:41] <archivist> one also has to think of repair later
[17:16:02] <IchGuckLive> gene78: if you google vs etch other they are nearly the same
[17:16:20] <IchGuckLive> so on temp no matter go for your stuff red permatex
[17:16:35] <MrHindsight> gene78: is the oil under pressure say >1bar?
[17:17:06] <IchGuckLive> MrHindsight: both take up to 200+
[17:18:39] <gene78> no, essentially gravity from perhaps 4" above
[17:19:22] <gene78> best drill size match I have is .02mm bigger than the brass tubing.
[17:19:31] <MrHindsight> any of the anaerobic adhesives will work
[17:20:01] <gene78> And no warranty that it will drill that small.
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[17:20:24] <IchGuckLive> gene78: go smaller and put the pipe on a cone
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[17:20:41] <gene78> Sounds like the thread locker might be ok then?
[17:20:43] <IchGuckLive> so it will make a tight fitting in
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[17:21:12] <MrHindsight> pipe threads and flare fittings
[17:21:27] <gene78> Next smaller drill is .0625, 30 thou smaller than the pipes OD.
[17:22:23] <MrHindsight> gene78: tight space? can you get a wrench on a fitting?
[17:23:33] <gene78> No, a small hose will reach from the ball nut holder to an accessable location, all buried under the machines tables.
[17:24:10] <gene78> Expanded micromill guys, the original sows ear. ;-)
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[17:29:10] <SpeedEvil> Flaring brass tubing out a little is easy
[17:33:41] <archivist> a nipple and o ring
[17:35:13] <archivist> making one of those things reliable invalidates the warranty :)
[17:35:24] <MrHindsight> :)
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[17:40:51] <MrHindsight> scruff up the end of the tube and the hole and any of the thread lockers, metal epoxies, or 100% silicone should hold it there if you can support the tube within a few inches
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[17:48:08] <IchGuckLive> im off BYe need to clean the BBQ for tomorrows action
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[18:04:30] <gene78> archivist: do you think after a long decade, that I migh care?
[18:04:37] <archivist> :)
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[18:05:26] <archivist> just switched mains onto the OB truck and no smoke escaped
[18:05:38] <gene78> I only intend to have about 1/4" sticking out, just enough to slip the fuel tubing over it
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[18:09:59] <archivist> gene78, were you working with radio or TV
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[18:45:20] <eneuro> Hello everyone, just looking for Linux CNC compatible CAM and HeeksCAD & HeeksCAM looks good, but which is its latest oficial website & relase?
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[18:51:30] <jdh> 2014 is the year of Linux on the desktop.
[18:51:45] <MrHindsight> eneuro:
https://sellfy.com/p/Tj1A/
[18:51:50] <zeeshan> jdh
[18:51:54] <zeeshan> finish your lathe
[18:52:05] <jdh> finish yours. If that was the only problem I had, I'd be done.
[18:52:17] <zeeshan> mine will be done this weekend
[18:52:18] <zeeshan> :P
[18:52:23] <zeeshan> well at least running
[18:52:23] <jdh> uh huh
[18:52:34] <MrHindsight> desktops are so 2008
[18:52:45] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/Is0LpSD.jpg
[18:52:45] <jdh> it's dive season, and I bought a new bike.
[18:52:48] <zeeshan> ^ thats how im doing it
[18:52:49] <archivist> jdh, 2014 you are late to the party :)
[18:53:06] <jdh> so the lathe is on hold again.
[18:53:38] <eneuro> MrHindsight: thx. I've check out revision 1473 of Heekscnc source code from
http://code.google.com/p/heekscnc/source/checkout is it free under GPL?
[18:53:40] <jdh> I'd cut off the screw and let it hang
[18:54:02] <archivist> eneuro, that version is bsd
[18:54:20] <archivist> so free too
[18:54:23] <zeeshan> haha no way
[18:54:26] <zeeshan> im making a bracket for a mount
[18:54:30] <zeeshan> prolly just aluminum
[18:54:38] <zeeshan> maybe steel ;p
[18:54:39] <jdh> maybe I'll pull my cross-slide and wtf you call that it attaches too off and get the shop guys to mill it all teh way through
[18:55:06] <MrHindsight> HeeksCNC 1.0 CAD/CAM software, only ÂŁ10, what are you some kind of commie?
[18:55:26] <Connor> zeeshan: Why like that? what's wrong with it in the channel ?
[18:55:32] <zeeshan> doesnt fit
[18:55:37] <zeeshan> the ball nut
[18:55:39] <Connor> in what way ?
[18:55:42] <zeeshan> even after modifying it, it doesnt fit
[18:55:50] <Connor> too tall ?
[18:55:55] <zeeshan> yes
[18:56:04] <Connor> you can grind it down..
[18:56:10] <zeeshan> and i really dont wanna remove any material from the channel
[18:56:14] <Connor> and maybe mill a picket in the saddle.
[18:56:40] <zeeshan> hm
[18:56:40] <Connor> throw up the pick with it in the channel
[18:56:55] <jdh> only two bolts holding teh compound? Will you keep it?
[18:56:58] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/nw7kPgh.jpg
[18:57:13] <zeeshan> jdh: thats how it is factory
[18:57:16] <Connor> looks like it fits..
[18:57:20] <eneuro> ok. I will see a few HeeksCNC youtube videos for the moment. I user fedora Linux at daily tasks and just downloaded latest LinuxCNC ISO to try it..
[18:57:22] <Connor> it's just too tall ?
[18:57:26] <zeeshan> connor it doesnt fit
[18:57:30] <jdh> mine only had two also, but that sucked
[18:57:34] <zeeshan> the whole ball screw is at an angle
[18:57:38] <zeeshan> thats the only reason it fits in that pic
[18:57:45] <zeeshan> i'd have to machine .25" from the bottom of the channel
[18:57:46] <zeeshan> to make it fit
[18:57:53] <jdh> start cutting
[18:57:54] <zeeshan> and if idid that, it would break into one of the v-ways
[18:58:07] <jdh> that's a 12x36
[18:58:11] <jdh> ?
[18:58:14] <zeeshan> yea
[18:58:19] <zeeshan> its easier just to make the screw longer
[18:58:20] <zeeshan> and make a bracket
[18:58:27] <Connor> okay, so, you need to grind the bottom of the nut ?
[18:58:27] <zeeshan> yea it increases the foot print , oh well :P
[18:58:35] <zeeshan> connor, its already grounded flat
[18:58:53] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/mFYNyfT.jpg
[18:58:56] <zeeshan> i dunno if you can tell from that
[18:58:57] <zeeshan> but its flat
[18:59:06] <Connor> okay. yea, it's hard to tell how it's fitting or not fitting in that picture
[19:00:55] <eneuro> MrHindsight: This HeeksCNC 1.0 looks like Windows APP: .EXE file, 17.4MB . Is it another Linux version or I missed something?
[19:03:41] <eneuro> I will try catch HeeksCAD/CAM/CNC forum but for the moment only intersted if this HeeksCAM or HeeksCNC supports LinuxCNC ?
[19:04:17] <MrHindsight> https://code.google.com/p/heekscad/
[19:05:39] <MrHindsight> https://github.com/Heeks/heekscnc
[19:06:34] <MrHindsight> https://sites.google.com/site/heekscad/news/linuxversion
[19:07:28] <MrHindsight> http://www.getupanddosomething.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/210.jpg bbl
[19:08:24] <archivist> !seen danheeks
[19:08:27] <eneuro> MrHindsight: Thx for hints- it looks like www.heeks.net redirects to
https://code.google.com/p/heekscad/ so now I know where to dig more about this CAM ;)
[19:08:27] <the_wench> last seen in 2011-08-01 18:34:53GMT 838:59:59 ago, saying Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier.
http://miranda-im.org
[19:12:19] <eneuro> It is time to run LinuxCNC and try to design my CNC machine for specific task, read some LinuxCNC manuals then I will try to create G-code for my DXF files.
[19:13:01] <eneuro> See you later, have a good time!
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[19:16:31] <DaViruz> anyone remember when motion.spindle-at-speed was introduced? i don't seem to have it on one of my machines
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[19:48:25] <micges> DaViruz:
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commit;h=8397377b3939ebabeab569864ccdb6f821efe1dc
[19:50:35] <micges> DaViruz: looks like introduced in 2.3.0
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[20:00:23] <DaViruz> micges: thanks. that explains it too
[20:00:29] <DaViruz> i guess it's time to update
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[20:20:01] <cradek> it's only been 6 years
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[20:29:22] <deMimsy> I am getting an interesting feature. When loading afile with an o-code subroutine call, I will get the error "Bad character ',' used"
[20:29:48] <deMimsy> I have deduced that this is because the subroutine uses the "return" function
[20:30:38] <cradek> um are you sure it's not because you have a comma in the file?
[20:30:48] <deMimsy> positive
[20:31:04] <deMimsy> removing the one return line allows the code to be loaded and executed
[20:31:10] <cradek> well then that's extremely weird
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[20:31:34] <deMimsy> the line removed looks like: o<sub_name> return
[20:31:36] <cradek> a simplified case that reproduces it would be great
[20:33:29] <cradek> I bet you've got nonascii in your file, involving the byte 0x2C
[20:34:35] <deMimsy> so i created a simple case to replicate, in one file "test.ngc"
[20:34:47] <deMimsy> o<rwar_kitty> call M2
[20:34:58] <deMimsy> o<rwar_kitty> call
[20:35:00] <deMimsy> M2
[20:35:15] <deMimsy> in "rwar_kitty.ngc":
[20:35:24] <deMimsy> o<rwar_kitty> sub
[20:35:30] <deMimsy> #1 = 0
[20:35:38] <deMimsy> o100 if [#1 EQ 0]
[20:35:53] <deMimsy> o<rough_dress> return
[20:35:59] <deMimsy> o100 endif
[20:36:05] <deMimsy> o<rwar_kitty> endsub
[20:36:10] <deMimsy> ----------------
[20:36:29] <deMimsy> though in this example i now get the error "bad character '1' used"
[20:37:17] <cradek> you've made the return label mismatch on purpose?
[20:37:24] <deMimsy> sorry
[20:37:36] <deMimsy> i jut typed it up up wrong
[20:37:38] <cradek> (use pastebin)
[20:37:46] <cradek> oh so they match
[20:37:49] <deMimsy> my actual subroutine is rough_dress
[20:38:02] <deMimsy> should be:
[20:38:07] <cradek> pastebin pastebin
[20:38:55] <deMimsy> right, forgot
[20:38:57] <deMimsy> will do
[20:39:58] <cradek> I made a similar program, and then did o<f>call in mdi; it worked fine with no error
[20:40:44] <deMimsy> http://pastebin.com/vYyrRACp
[20:40:53] <deMimsy> right
[20:40:56] <deMimsy> thats the thing
[20:41:08] <deMimsy> it works in mdi
[20:41:22] <deMimsy> but if i load up the file for running in auto mode it yells at me
[20:43:07] <cradek> still wfm
[20:43:16] <cradek> what version are you running?
[20:44:17] <deMimsy> not sure if it is the best fix, but if you replace the return line with:
[20:44:26] <deMimsy> o<sub_name> endsub
[20:44:35] <deMimsy> it works
[20:44:58] <deMimsy> using version 2.5.3
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[20:48:31] <cradek> hm, 2.5 won't run for me for some reason
[20:49:54] <cradek> oh there it goes
[20:50:33] <cradek> oh funky, I get it too
[20:50:42] <cradek> !!
[20:55:18] <deMimsy> huh, must be a version problem with interpreting the "return" command
[20:56:58] <cradek> I agree something is wrong, and I don't immediately see what
[20:57:10] <deMimsy> So, for those searching IRC - version: 2.5 // error: bad character used // possible solution: replace "return" with "endsub"
[20:57:27] <cradek> would you file a bug report with your test case please?
[20:57:43] <cradek> http://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/
[20:58:16] <deMimsy> oh look at that, we have our own bug tracker
[20:58:48] <deMimsy> which version where you using that didnt have the problem?
[20:59:08] <cradek> 2.6 branch
[20:59:38] <Deejay> gn
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[21:03:03] <deMimsy> is priority 1 highest priority?
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[21:18:27] <eneuro> hello again, just installed latest linuxCNC and now pressed update under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS as written in docs, but it is 12.04.4 LTS available to upgrade-leave 10.04 LTS updated only or try to upgrade to 12.04 LTS?
[21:18:52] <jthornton> do not upgrade Ubuntu
[21:19:02] <jthornton> it will remove the real time kernel
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[21:20:29] <jthornton> System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager and turn off Settings > Repositories > Release Upgrade to Never
[21:21:26] <eneuro> ok. thx. but if I wanted for some reason use this linuxCNC for simulation only I could upgrade to latest 12.04 and install linuxcnc-sim as described in other docs or 10.04 has this simulator built in?
[21:22:10] <jthornton> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_Pure_Simulator
[21:22:47] <jthornton> you can run a simulated configuration in 10.04 and there is plenty of examples
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[21:23:36] <zeeshan> "while working at your workstation, usual work should be kept within forearm length"
[21:23:37] <zeeshan> true or false
[21:23:43] <zeeshan> ergonomics quiz
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[21:24:50] <eneuro> ok. this upgrade was a little bit confusing. thanks a lot lets go forward docs and see what next happends. bye ;)
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[22:39:44] <Tom_itx> can't get the network to connect on 10.04 now for some odd reason
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[22:49:53] <deMimsy> just do a lot of ifconfigs up and downs :D "have you tried it off and back on again?"
[22:51:36] <deMimsy> on kind of a drastic note though. It seems the "wait_complete" command is not functioning properly
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[23:09:40] <MrHindsight> http://imagebin.org/310960 piezo fuel injector stack, the center retracts under voltage, cheap source for fast valves or very fine positioning
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