#linuxcnc | Logs for 2014-05-03

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[00:00:19] <witnit> nice
[00:00:38] <witnit> ive found more solutions in the chat logs than anywhere else
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[00:01:27] <witnit> it takes some work to get to certain issues but no ads to browse and easy to keep track of what you have an havent read
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[02:01:04] <skunkworks_> everyone one must be out getting drunk
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[02:01:39] <Jymmm> skunkworks_: I am not as look as you drunk
[02:01:44] <XXCoder> here
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[02:42:29] <skunkworks_> everyone one must be out getting drunk
[02:44:31] <jp_mill> i wish
[02:45:37] <_methods> i'm naked
[02:45:41] <zeeshan> !
[02:45:46] <XXCoder> not me. I dont drink
[02:45:51] <zeeshan> <- searching for 50 ton hydraulic presses
[02:45:56] <zeeshan> i dont drink either :]
[02:46:07] <_methods> i'm just naked
[02:46:11] * Jymmm grabs the slingshot and looks at _methods
[02:46:17] <cradek> only on special occasions, like evenings and weekends
[02:46:21] <zeeshan> aim for the balls!
[02:46:29] <_methods> haha
[02:46:35] <jp_mill> or any day that ends in y
[02:46:50] <zeeshan> lol
[02:46:51] <skunkworks_> I was going to say days ending in y but cradek beat me to it..
[02:46:53] <Jymmm> zeeshan: what balls? OH you mena the ones his better half has on the mantel in a jar?
[02:46:57] <skunkworks_> or jp...
[02:47:16] <_methods> oh that hurts
[02:47:33] * skunkworks_ finishes up his glass of cheap wine
[02:47:58] <Jymmm> _methods: Hey, what can I say. I notice you dind't deny it either =)
[02:48:01] <_methods> so how far overkill is it to put servos on an x2
[02:48:44] <Jymmm> _methods: Not like you have any use for them anyway <ducks>
[02:48:54] <_methods> heheh no shit
[02:48:59] <Jymmm> =)
[02:49:14] <_methods> it's friday night and i'm on irc
[02:49:16] <_methods> .............
[02:49:33] <_methods> mainly because valve has blown the fuck up
[02:49:47] <_methods> otherwise i'd be droppin 'nades on fuckers right now
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[02:55:27] <humble_sea_bass> what vidia
[02:55:29] <humble_sea_bass> gaem
[02:55:37] <witnit> ^ drunk also
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[03:00:51] <_methods> tf2
[03:02:26] <_methods> haha steam servers are down for routine maint
[03:02:38] <_methods> who the fuck schedules routine maint for prime time
[03:02:46] <_methods> valve you so silly
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[03:07:44] <witnit> good point
[03:07:48] <witnit> that is odd
[03:08:27] <witnit> lets just do all updates globally :/
[03:10:56] <_methods> it would be odd if it was rare
[03:11:02] <humble_sea_bass> tf2 has been out for what, 8 years, they know you're hooked
[03:11:13] <_methods> it's not just tf2
[03:11:19] <_methods> valve done blown up
[03:11:31] <_methods> gabe spilled his big gulp on the keyboard
[03:11:40] <humble_sea_bass> i can't sperg out on CS:GO tonight
[03:11:47] <_methods> nerp
[03:11:57] <_methods> no shanky shanky
[03:12:15] <humble_sea_bass> time to sperg on iracing then
[03:12:23] <_methods> heheh no shit
[03:12:30] <_methods> i don't even have a wheel
[03:12:38] <_methods> i'm gonna go irace with my mouse
[03:12:49] <_methods> they will love me
[03:12:56] <humble_sea_bass> get a damn wheel
[03:12:58] <humble_sea_bass> be a hero
[03:13:11] <_methods> a mouse wheel lol
[03:13:17] <humble_sea_bass> one of the guys in this group i play with uses an xbox controller
[03:13:20] <_methods> i'll turn my mouse sideways
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[03:13:25] <humble_sea_bass> everyone hates him
[03:13:31] <_methods> hahah
[03:13:32] <_methods> right
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[03:14:15] <_methods> wow valve has been blow'd up for over an hour
[03:14:36] <_methods> http://steamstat.us/
[03:15:04] <_methods> i guess the store still works lol
[03:15:37] <_methods> heheh you can buy games you just can't play them
[03:20:01] <Incognito675> now you know why having an online dependance for a game sucks!
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[03:23:02] <_methods> no doubt
[03:23:46] <_methods> actually video games save me millions of dollars
[03:24:19] <_methods> they keep me from trying to machine shit while i'm drunk
[03:25:40] <Incognito675> join AA.
[03:25:53] <_methods> i did that
[03:25:57] <_methods> the 82nd was gay
[03:26:59] <humble_sea_bass> vidya games
[03:27:04] <humble_sea_bass> are great
[03:27:23] <_methods> ^^
[03:28:49] <_methods> oscar?
[03:29:17] <humble_sea_bass> what
[03:29:27] <humble_sea_bass> stalker
[03:29:28] <_methods> added
[03:29:44] <_methods> chisel
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[03:31:03] <humble_sea_bass> i sees ya
[03:31:10] <_methods> hrroo
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[04:37:09] <tjtr33> maybe useful for hal diagrams, Ganv , a Gtk toolkit for connected boxes
[04:37:19] <tjtr33> http://imagebin.org/308731 http://videobin.org/+7pk/a64.html http://pastebin.com/zG8ApG2Z
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[04:51:21] <witnit> pretty and powerful
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[05:09:54] <XXCoder> would this work? http://www.amazon.com/Straight-Hinge-Lever-Basic-Switch/dp/B0050HKB8O/ref=pd_sim_pc_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=14F4DZZ9BVXRGGYSE59B
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[06:52:31] <Deejay> moin
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[12:53:01] <PetefromTn_> Well......I think I am deaf now!!
[12:54:04] <PetefromTn_> Thanks to ALICE IN CHAINS....
[12:54:20] <PetefromTn_> I can't hear nothing but ringing LOL
[12:57:05] <_methods> couldn't have been that good if you are up this early lol
[12:57:26] <_methods> unless you haven't gone to sleep yet
[12:57:45] <_methods> hehe
[12:58:18] <PetefromTn_> hehe
[12:58:46] <PetefromTn_> Yeah the only part that sucked was driving back from Cherokee thru the twisty mountain roads that late.
[12:58:54] <_methods> yeah
[12:59:00] <PetefromTn_> I slept in a LOT yesterday morning so I could do it LOL
[12:59:08] <PetefromTn_> Man they kicked some serious ass...
[12:59:09] <_methods> that's the worst part of going to concerts
[12:59:27] <_methods> last concert i went to was mastodon
[12:59:46] <_methods> crazy concert
[13:00:12] <PetefromTn_> trying to upload a short video and some pics I took with my cellphone here but the damn thing is not cooperating.
[13:00:30] <_methods> who opened for them?
[13:00:33] <PetefromTn_> I swear the floor in that building was moving like 2"
[13:00:38] <archivist> I blame wishbone ash for tinnitus
[13:00:55] <PetefromTn_> kinda scared me when everyone started really rocking I thought the floor was gonna cave in.
[13:01:35] <PetefromTn_> had a couple really drunk grungy looking bastards annoying my wife and I but they were nice so it was okay.
[13:02:35] <PetefromTn_> Jerry Cantrell melted our faces off all night with that lead guitar. It was awesomely LOUD...
[13:03:09] <PetefromTn_> The band that opened was called Kongo...they were a bunch of brothers from south Africa.
[13:03:14] <PetefromTn_> They were quite good actually.
[13:03:21] <PetefromTn_> Really got everyone ready for Alice.
[13:03:54] <PetefromTn_> Never heard of them but they were quite good.
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[13:09:41] <PetefromTn_> Probably got some tinnitus here myself now hehe
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[13:10:43] <archivist> yes but 40 years of tinnitus is not funny
[13:11:12] <_methods> yeah that sux
[13:11:19] <_methods> not much they can do for chronic tinnitus
[13:11:42] <archivist> I could hear my ears distort during that concert
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[13:12:11] <PetefromTn_> It really was stupid loud but they sounded really good.
[13:13:58] <PetefromTn_> They played rooster, nutshell, man in the box, I stay away... and some stuff from their newer album. It was kickass..
[13:14:47] <PetefromTn_> they played them bones. I cannot remember all the songs.
[13:15:18] <PetefromTn_> We were like five people from the edge of the stage
[13:25:40] <Jymmmm> nosebleed section huh
[13:25:57] <PetefromTn_> LOL nope... GA and push to the front hehee
[13:26:59] <PetefromTn_> If I can get this damn video to upload I can show ya..
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[13:57:12] <PetefromTn_> http://s150.photobucket.com/user/matospeter/media/VID_20140502_213928_zps69a55a1d.mp4.html?filters[user]=41042729&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0 Finally LOL
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[14:08:48] <Jymmmm> Uh, guess what...
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[14:12:30] <PetefromTn_> what?
[14:12:41] <Jymmmm> doesn't play
[14:12:46] <PetefromTn_> really?
[14:12:52] <PetefromTn_> Lemme try again...
[14:12:54] <Jymmmm> yeah =(
[14:13:36] <PetefromTn_> http://s150.photobucket.com/user/matospeter/media/VID_20140502_213928_zps69a55a1d.mp4.html?filters[user]=41042729&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0
[14:14:03] <PetefromTn_> that whole thing is the link dunno why the IRC breaks it up.
[14:14:14] <PetefromTn_> it plays for me an on facebook.
[14:14:32] <Jymmmm> the ink is fine, the page loads, just the video doesn't play
[14:14:37] <Jymmmm> link*
[14:15:13] <PetefromTn_> huh.
[14:15:20] <PetefromTn_> any suggestions?
[14:15:40] <PetefromTn_> I got it on my desktop I can post somewhere else.
[14:15:46] <PetefromTn_> Its just a 30 second vid/
[14:18:16] <PetefromTn_> tryin drop box
[14:19:02] <Jymmmm> I have 30s video on my desktop too... at 6MB/second =)
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[14:31:16] <PetefromTn_> http://s150.photobucket.com/user/matospeter/library/Alice%20in%20Chains?sort=3&page=1
[14:31:25] <PetefromTn_> maybe this will work?
[14:33:59] <Jymmmm> It played once I downloaded the video
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[14:35:04] <tjtr33> photobucket _still_ loading spinny wheel remember videobin.org
[14:35:12] <PetefromTn_> okay.
[14:35:21] <PetefromTn_> yeah PB kinda sucks I guess.
[14:35:49] <PetefromTn_> The video is of course a crappy cell phone video but it plays okay on my laptop. You can hear it at least LOL
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[14:36:22] <PetefromTn_> tryin' to upload a second video now.
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[14:38:03] <tjtr33> sorry,still loading, killing dload now
[14:38:21] <PetefromTn_> Videobin is actually going much faster.
[14:38:28] <PetefromTn_> hang on a sec LOL
[14:38:55] <Jymmmm> Nah, we're boed now and moving on to the next silly camera thing now
[14:39:28] <PetefromTn_> LOL I can't say as I blame ya.
[14:39:46] <PetefromTn_> Freakin' photobastards.
[14:39:59] <Jymmmm> Nah, I already saw it
[14:41:15] <PetefromTn_> It was quite a beautiful drive up to Cherokee tho.
[14:41:24] <PetefromTn_> at least on the way there
[14:41:32] <PetefromTn_> before we got tired and deaf.
[14:41:51] <PetefromTn_> You go right past Clingmans dome and the view is pretty cool.
[14:43:03] <PetefromTn_> basically all the way thru the Great Smoky Mountains National Park.
[14:46:54] <Jymmmm> Now here is a sexy video... http://v7.tinypic.com/player.swf?file=24zkn4z
[14:47:11] <PetefromTn_> http://videobin.org/+7pl/a65.html
[14:47:48] <PetefromTn_> Wow that is fast
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[14:48:14] <PetefromTn_> Two of the guys at work bought some ebay Chinese laser engraving machines and they are all gushing about it.
[14:48:24] <PetefromTn_> I am sure they will NOT perform like that tho.
[14:50:39] <Jymmmm> Not even close =)
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[14:51:35] <Jymmmm> That's a 50W YaG Fiber laser... Somewhere in the $60,000 USD range =)
[14:53:13] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reBPyJeyPac Pretty cool... combining Rock guitars and CNC..
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[14:54:16] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[14:54:33] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: did ypou see my result of the 5USD DVD laser
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[14:54:53] <IchGuckLive> it has run today about 3houres
[14:55:53] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, please post a link, i just thought of a use for a marker
[14:56:21] <IchGuckLive> tjtr33: on my youtube
[14:56:32] <tjtr33> magic33de ?
[14:56:36] <IchGuckLive> yes
[14:56:40] <tjtr33> thx
[14:56:52] <PetefromTn_> nope..
[14:56:55] <PetefromTn_> linky?
[14:57:07] <IchGuckLive> use the knowen lm317 driver
[14:57:45] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkBes1XgfnI
[14:57:48] <PetefromTn_> http://videobin.org/+7pl/a66.html There both videos are posted now and can be seen on all my devices. Should work.
[14:58:46] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L1VR8U74us chere is the blanking added
[14:59:04] <tjtr33> both work fine
[14:59:12] <IchGuckLive> i can now go for 3 or 4 laser diodes on the same spot
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[15:00:10] <IchGuckLive> so speed is up at 1500mm/min engraving at 0.2mm laser with
[15:00:22] <IchGuckLive> the 3D printer did a god job
[15:00:50] <tjtr33> focus 3 or 4 dvd lasers on same spot ?
[15:01:12] <IchGuckLive> yes
[15:01:27] <PetefromTn_> Ich man that is pretty cool.
[15:01:29] <tjtr33> cool idea, cheap for more power
[15:01:40] <IchGuckLive> http://www.ebay.de/itm/2x-45mm-Laser-Diode-Geha-use-Linse-TO-18-5-6mm-Neu-/370816066314?pt=Licht_Effekte&hash=item56565c230a
[15:01:41] <PetefromTn_> The machine sounds like a creaking door tho LOL
[15:02:09] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: its to slow moving it is designed to punch the pcb at 800mm
[15:02:35] <PetefromTn_> is that wood material?
[15:02:41] <IchGuckLive> below 200 its a miss on l297/298
[15:02:46] <IchGuckLive> yes
[15:02:55] <PetefromTn_> not too shabby...
[15:03:12] <PetefromTn_> I need to fab up a mount for a laser to my VMC hehe
[15:03:16] <IchGuckLive> if you use tropic it smels the hole house
[15:03:33] <PetefromTn_> can you do plastics?
[15:03:51] <IchGuckLive> 3mm cut is posible but on 5 atempts
[15:04:01] <IchGuckLive> lops
[15:04:04] <IchGuckLive> o
[15:06:05] <IchGuckLive> i got only 16times dvds in use as i know the best wayto get it out on this parts
[15:06:19] <IchGuckLive> takes 1min to get the laser out
[15:06:30] <IchGuckLive> the 24times are now at 280mW
[15:06:32] <PetefromTn_> How does this compare to the chinese lasers people are getting for cnc routers?
[15:06:52] <IchGuckLive> you are joking !!
[15:07:02] <PetefromTn_> no..
[15:07:17] <PetefromTn_> what power is that one in the video?
[15:07:22] <IchGuckLive> 30W yag against 200mW red
[15:07:33] <IchGuckLive> this is 180mW
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[15:08:10] <PetefromTn_> whats yag?
[15:08:23] <IchGuckLive> oh they use Co2
[15:09:12] <IchGuckLive> the green ones use Infrared to NdYd
[15:09:32] <Deejay> re-namd
[15:09:49] <IchGuckLive> if you can get a blueray this is on 500mW
[15:10:10] <IchGuckLive> the hell of wood engraving
[15:10:41] <IchGuckLive> on standard routers
[15:11:09] <IchGuckLive> the precicion on the china is crap as they got standard printer setup
[15:11:40] <IchGuckLive> some are also not able to move contuors
[15:11:48] <IchGuckLive> only line blanking
[15:12:08] <IchGuckLive> this gives you spot or wish things you dont want
[15:12:29] <tjtr33> oh like dot matrix printing, raster printing
[15:12:46] <IchGuckLive> yes
[15:13:29] <IchGuckLive> http://funofdiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/a-raspberry-pi-controlled-mini-laser.html
[15:13:29] <IchGuckLive> here is some interseting projekt
[15:13:41] <IchGuckLive> also the driver circuit
[15:13:57] <IchGuckLive> dont forget you need at least 5.6V
[15:14:13] <IchGuckLive> to get the lm317 work proper
[15:14:28] <IchGuckLive> at the 1.25V output Amp stage
[15:14:57] <PetefromTn_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e8EBAr5nTM neato
[15:15:17] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, thx
[15:15:21] <IchGuckLive> NP
[15:15:26] <tjtr33> off to plant Zoysia grass
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[15:15:43] <IchGuckLive> i can upload the eagle if you want with the 3stages i use
[15:16:17] <IchGuckLive> ok then till later BYE
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[16:49:38] <witnit> 3AT collets, those are popular with benchtop machines?
[16:49:40] <witnit> www.ebay.com/itm/360919660454
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[17:04:45] <boonkerz> hi
[17:04:52] <boonkerz> can i dist upgrade to 12.04?
[17:05:10] <boonkerz> and add new sources?
[17:08:16] <humble_sea_bass> it says dont do that over at linux cnc
[17:08:25] <CaptHindsight> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_On_Ubuntu_Precise
[17:09:01] <humble_sea_bass> welp, told
[17:09:39] <XXCoder> I wouldnt upgrade past 109.04
[17:09:42] <XXCoder> 10.04
[17:09:47] <XXCoder> unity sucks
[17:10:09] <CaptHindsight> heh 14.04 is even worse
[17:10:20] <XXCoder> xubuntu maybe HMM
[17:10:23] <XXCoder> I love xfce
[17:10:23] * skunkworks_ has gotten used to unity...
[17:10:33] * skunkworks_ sort of likes it...
[17:10:38] <humble_sea_bass> more like defeated by
[17:10:44] <XXCoder> yep
[17:11:00] <XXCoder> man
[17:11:17] <XXCoder> wish I knew if sbr12 would be good enough for wood and light and slow alum milling
[17:12:21] <skunkworks_> 14.04 and my laptop runs cooler and faster.. really like it
[17:12:34] <XXCoder> skunk should try xfce
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[17:12:45] <XXCoder> its bit hard to configure but once done.. its your ui, your rules
[17:12:55] <skunkworks_> I have been meaning to try others.. but just am comfortable
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[17:13:00] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[17:13:04] <XXCoder> hey ich!
[17:13:16] <XXCoder> is sbr12 strong enough for wood and light alum?
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[17:14:33] <IchGuckLive> the size of the rail is related to the mashine size not the material
[17:14:40] <XXCoder> oh really
[17:14:49] <XXCoder> so sbr12 is fine if small machine?
[17:15:01] <IchGuckLive> yes
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[17:15:07] <IchGuckLive> 10inch
[17:15:11] <XXCoder> ok thanks. something to consider.
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[17:16:56] <humble_sea_bass> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veOl60l28Ck
[17:17:03] <IchGuckLive> hi RogueWolf33
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[17:17:09] <RogueWolf33> hi there
[17:17:16] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
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[17:18:00] <IchGuckLive> with this nick you might get in trouble in germany RogueWolf33
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[17:23:45] <RogueWolf33> Can someone tell me if there are any compataibility issues with the startech PCI-e Parallel Serial Combo Card With 16950 Uart ? I have it installed and it seems to be working, however, when I load up CRC, it does not seem to send the correct signals. From what I can tell, This card is utilizing the Oxford Semiconductor Espresso Family of PCI express if that helps. And let me just Preface this question with *Please be patient I
[17:24:41] <IchGuckLive> 16950 Uart is fine
[17:24:54] <XXCoder> http://www.ebay.com/itm/linear-rails-SBR12-16-20-6-supported-rails-12blocks-/250549051031?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item3a55e31e97
[17:24:58] <XXCoder> ich check this out
[17:25:01] <XXCoder> 3 different sizes
[17:25:17] <IchGuckLive> as i said depends on your need
[17:25:44] <IchGuckLive> if you got a 500lbs YZ set up it will fail
[17:25:53] <RogueWolf33> So I imagine this is more of a setup issue then. In CRC there is no driver identifiers for this card, is there a common one that seems to work better for general pcie cards?
[17:26:29] <XXCoder> 500 lb from milling pressure or just weight of gantry?
[17:26:42] <IchGuckLive> weight of gantry,
[17:27:24] <XXCoder> fixed gantry fixes that issue? well Z would have to deal witgh weight of router and stuff attached to it, but besides that..
[17:27:35] <IchGuckLive> RogueWolf33: what does "dmesg |grep par" give you
[17:28:05] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-THK-SR35-CNC-Linear-Slide-Rails-4-Ball-Bearings-Slides-Blocks-600mm-x-35mm-/350823460956 unless they are rusty or melted the worst square rail is better than any cheap round bearing rail
[17:28:12] <RogueWolf33> [ 0.882631] ahci 0000:00:1f.2: flags: 64bit ncq pm led clo pio slum part ems apst [ 11.093692] parport_pc 0000:04:00.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19 [ 11.093695] PCI parallel port detected: 1415:c000, I/O at 0xe020(0xe010), IRQ 19 [ 11.093828] parport0: PC-style at 0xe020 (0xe010), irq 19, using FIFO [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP] [ 11.132640] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver [ 11.195153] lp0:
[17:28:54] <CaptHindsight> I have not found a good round bearing block from China yet
[17:29:12] <IchGuckLive> 0xe020 RogueWolf33 this is your parport adress
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[17:30:17] <XXCoder> capt prices is also higher. I guess because of better quality
[17:30:50] <CaptHindsight> yes, 2-3 the price for >10x the quality and durability
[17:30:52] <RogueWolf33> Ich this would be utilized in the Stepconf setup I assume?
[17:30:54] <IchGuckLive> as i said over and over start low upgrate soon
[17:31:09] <IchGuckLive> RogueWolf33: yes
[17:31:19] <RogueWolf33> Ich roger that.
[17:31:26] <XXCoder> ich yeah. I'm looking for quality minium that I dont have to fix problems
[17:31:32] <CaptHindsight> the diameter of the bearings in the block and the amount of contact area
[17:32:04] <CaptHindsight> SBR has very very little contact area between the bearings and the rail
[17:32:09] <IchGuckLive> if you plan to go for a real cabable router start on sbr16 in X and Y
[17:32:36] <XXCoder> one I recently linked to has sbr 20 for x, y has sbr 16, z has sbr 12
[17:32:49] <CaptHindsight> square block is ~50%
[17:33:25] <CaptHindsight> SBR bearings are <1%
[17:33:33] <XXCoder> sigh so much thinking on rails lol if I had machinist skills I'd just use steel plates and make my own linear bearing stuff
[17:34:08] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: as we speek price V Precision V speed
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[17:34:55] <IchGuckLive> good price minimam precision acceptable speed
[17:35:20] <IchGuckLive> high speed no precision very good price
[17:35:32] <IchGuckLive> high speed high prexcision high price
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[17:36:14] <XXCoder> one annoying thing is I'm unsure if I should buy rails and ball bearing screws seperately
[17:36:26] <XXCoder> because sizes seem to be always different
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[17:36:54] <IchGuckLive> ballscrew is 25% shorter then rail
[17:37:07] <XXCoder> and I;'m unsure how to size match them. would say 300 mm ball screw work with 300 mm rails
[17:37:16] <CaptHindsight> http://www.pbclinear.com/images/blog/InvertedBearings.jpg
[17:37:23] <IchGuckLive> so you got 25% of god baring distance
[17:37:53] <IchGuckLive> 450mm rail
[17:37:55] <CaptHindsight> I'm not sure why people have been saying to mount the SBR like the middle picture
[17:38:12] <XXCoder> that picture is missing one load type
[17:38:18] <XXCoder> "down the rail" load.
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[17:39:03] <IchGuckLive> for type at 6040 size i woud always go lmuu
[17:39:08] <IchGuckLive> bo SBR
[17:39:12] <IchGuckLive> no
[17:39:12] <CaptHindsight> http://machinedesign.com/motion-control/linear-motion-takes-shape
[17:39:43] <XXCoder> sigh maybe I should just buy ballscrews and think about rails later
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[17:40:07] <XXCoder> brb a sec
[17:46:02] <CaptHindsight> http://www.designworldonline.com/control-engineers-guide-to-applying-linear-bearings-and-guides/
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[17:47:16] <XXCoder> back
[17:48:51] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight: therefor i use LM UU
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[17:49:11] <IchGuckLive> you got 8 contact points on the rail
[17:49:33] <XXCoder> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-THK-Linear-Motion-Bearing-LM-ST-40-UU-HSR20A1SS-220L-/121144813249
[17:49:58] <IchGuckLive> my limit size is 60inch on that type
[17:50:05] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: if you're not in a hurry you'll find deals on bearings, you just need to watch for them
[17:50:17] <XXCoder> cool
[17:50:28] <XXCoder> http://www.ebay.com/itm/LWES15-1540mm-Used-IKO-Linear-Bearing-LM-Guide-THK-SR15W-2Rail-4Block-lightweigh/191152792707?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222003%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22405%26meid%3D6643732518237672909%26pid%3D100005%26prg%3D8888%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D121144813249&rt=nc nice
[17:50:43] <XXCoder> but then I'd have to find ballscrew that big
[17:51:02] <IchGuckLive> ballscrew is only 2005
[17:51:04] <witnit> maybe sean could 3d print one for you :P
[17:51:05] <XXCoder> bit riciously large actually. 5' long
[17:51:21] <XXCoder> B{P
[17:51:27] <IchGuckLive> witnit: cheepr to buy
[17:51:31] <witnit> LOL
[17:52:06] <CaptHindsight> I haven't gotten a round bearing block from China yet that wasn't crunchy. I know that they can make them properly I just haven't found them yet.
[17:52:22] <witnit> rexroth is good yes?
[17:52:32] <IchGuckLive> they got screws inside to get tighter
[17:52:38] <XXCoder> this is cool, but HOW THE HELL CAN you attach anything to it??
[17:52:47] <IchGuckLive> rexroth is the best i know
[17:52:49] <CaptHindsight> yeah Bosch, and usually pricey compared to other just as quality vendors
[17:53:12] <IchGuckLive> FAG
[17:53:20] <XXCoder> er http://www.ebay.com/itm/12pcs-LM8UU-8mm-Linear-Ball-Bearing-Bush-Bushing-/290828158520?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item43b6b58638
[17:53:23] <XXCoder> forgot url lol
[17:53:36] <IchGuckLive> but now all parts are made in china only the precision is different
[17:53:56] <XXCoder> http://www.ebay.com/itm/linear-bearing-Rail-set-3-ballscrews-1605-ball-screws-3-BK12-BF12-3p-couplings-/251517462284?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item3a8f9be70c cheap but shipping.. not as cheap
[17:54:21] <IchGuckLive> XXCoder: the LM8UU are in mine laser masgine
[17:54:26] <CaptHindsight> ^^ probably crunchy
[17:54:57] <IchGuckLive> go for 16mm or 20mm
[17:54:57] <CaptHindsight> the THK round bearing blocks are probably great
[17:55:17] <IchGuckLive> but 3times the price
[17:55:34] <CaptHindsight> 3x the price of junk :)
[17:55:35] <witnit> http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-GOOD-USED-BOSCH-REXROTH-27-IN-LINEAR-RAIL-WITH-TWO-HEAVY-DUTY-CARRIAGES-/331187876843?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1c55f3eb
[17:55:36] <XXCoder> unsupported rail http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NB-SMA-30GWUU-LINEAR-SLIDE-BUSHING-ASSEMBLIES-10-3-8-TRAVEL-LENGTH-/351059236525?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item51bcc2d6ad
[17:55:36] <witnit> OBO!
[17:55:37] <XXCoder> not too bad
[17:55:44] <IchGuckLive> the XYUVB got a 12pice set inside
[17:56:19] <CaptHindsight> I might get those :)
[17:57:25] <XXCoder> only one rail?
[17:57:25] <CaptHindsight> unless they are rusty or bent
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[17:57:51] <CaptHindsight> cut it in half for 2 13.5" rails
[17:57:59] <humble_sea_bass> But the item has scratch and rust marks overall of rail.
[17:58:12] <XXCoder> and have half as many carrages (is that right word?)
[17:58:13] <IchGuckLive> im off
[17:58:15] <IchGuckLive> BYE
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[17:58:23] <CaptHindsight> hasta
[17:59:30] <CaptHindsight> http://www.thomsonlinear.com/downloads/articles/Round_Or_Square_Rail_taen.pdf
[17:59:42] <XXCoder> gonn run be back in bit
[17:59:59] <CaptHindsight> pop quiz in 3 hours
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[18:05:11] <RogueWolf33> Ich should I leave everything else default in the setup? or is it specific to some standards? Currently I am showing a constant Electric climb on Pin 3 Which should be my X axis I believe?
[18:05:33] <RogueWolf33> It does not change when I press arrow keys to move the X axis in the program.
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[18:09:31] <CaptHindsight> heh was looking up SS pins and google returned with WWII axis vs stainless steel
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[18:13:27] <witnit> http://www.ebay.com/itm/C108371-Lot-7-Rexroth-9-235mm-Linear-Bearing-Slide-Rails-R044982002-7210-/331190049754?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d1c771bda
[18:13:36] <witnit> small multiaxis system? :)
[18:14:47] <CaptHindsight> perfect for a small pcb router
[18:15:05] <witnit> long lasting
[18:15:18] <witnit> could run day and night for 6 years and not get slop probably :P
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[18:16:55] <CaptHindsight> http://lmts.epfl.ch/cms/site/lmts/lang/en/rupert
[18:17:17] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urKeBcGNnWQ
[18:20:07] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sz8X-rcmpc
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[19:04:06] <gene78> Another silly Q from the SS gallery, from the docs as of last June, G10L2P1 can only rotate about the Z axis.
[19:04:29] <gene78> Has that been fixed to respond to the g18 etc commands?
[19:04:49] <gene78> That is in the current 2.5.4
[19:06:13] <gene78> If not, that is a revoltin development according to Jackie G.
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[19:26:28] <XXCoder> back
[19:27:05] <XXCoder> 235mm hmm
[19:27:14] <XXCoder> 3 of em, but less than 1'x1'x1' space
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[20:01:40] <XXCoder> whats difference with sbr and tbr
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[20:56:32] <zeeshan> interesting looking vise
[20:56:33] <zeeshan> hmmm
[20:56:36] <zeeshan> http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzUwWDEwMDA=/z/7VsAAOxyc2pTYOuh/$_20.JPG
[20:56:38] <zeeshan> to get or not to get
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