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[00:00:26] <CaptHindsight> their cold remedy always worked for me, take it twice a day for 7-10 days and my cold was always gone :)
[00:00:34] <XXCoder> lol
[00:01:05] <Valen> zinc has been shown to help if taken at the first symptoms
[00:01:12] <andypugh> A bottle of Southern Comfort is a sovereign remedy for colds. Just repeat the dose every night until it works.
[00:01:27] <Valen> but nobody is going to pay for big trials because you can't patent zinc ;->
[00:01:37] <CaptHindsight> I use scotch for just about everything
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[00:02:07] <andypugh> Seems a waste to use Scotch if your sense of smell is out of action.
[00:02:32] <Valen> another study looked at cough medicines, and found the benefit of the medication wasn't really distinguishable from having just the alcahol in the syrup
[00:04:14] <CaptHindsight> and using water vs mouthwash and measuring the amount of bacteria 30 minutes later
[00:05:31] <R2E4_> Do the Home entries in the ini file need the + or only - if it travels in negative direction?
[00:05:40] <CaptHindsight> Valen: how controlled are meds down under?
[00:06:12] <Valen> very as a rule
[00:06:21] <Valen> but in what sense?
[00:06:36] <CaptHindsight> China is funny. I can buy antibiotics without a script, but other common over the counter meds are not available
[00:06:58] <Valen> ok that is going to screw everything up
[00:07:07] <Valen> antibiotics should be a big deal
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[00:08:54] <CaptHindsight> yeah, so when you end up in the hospital or ER they go right to Ciprofloxacin
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[00:11:24] <XXCoder> just dont take it for any viruses. antibonatics dont do diddy shit to them
[00:11:36] <XXCoder> except train them to make bicteria more resistant
[00:11:51] <CaptHindsight> that was the problem, they'd give it out for colds
[00:13:33] <Valen> people go to a dr when they feel sick, Dr needs to give them a pill
[00:13:53] <Valen> I believe some company is getting a placebo on the drug register here
[00:14:09] <Valen> so the doctors have something they can proscribe for people to feel better
[00:16:20] <CaptHindsight> chill pill, anti-anxiety
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[00:17:55] <Valen> they are thinking for chronic pain, viruses and all the other things they can't fix
[00:18:14] <Valen> it won't have any medication in it, just a sugar pill
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[00:37:47] <R2E4_> Homing is working....yoohoo!\
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[00:40:04] <XXCoder> way ti go!
[00:46:10] <R2E4_> Whats left is the spindle and the tool changer.
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[01:46:02] <Connor> can someone tell me how to get a pin value using python / remap ?
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[01:53:29] <R2E4_> yeehaw!
[01:54:01] <Connor> Anyone? how to get a pin value using python with remap ?
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[01:54:04] <zeeshan> anyone ever take a drill index apart?
[01:54:14] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/M2q7CHU.jpg
[01:54:15] <zeeshan> that shit
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[01:59:17] <R2E4_> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html#_optional_interpreter_features_ini_file_configuration_a_id_sub_ini_features_a
[02:01:20] <R2E4_> You have to enable it, I think.
[02:02:25] <R2E4_> enable #<_hal[Hal item]> readonly variables: 8
[02:03:19] <R2E4_> [RS274NGC]
[02:03:19] <R2E4_> FEATURES = 8
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[02:29:56] <R2E4_> Conner: When do you need to use the remap on a toolchanger? When an axis has to move during a topol change?
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[02:45:33] <Connor> R2E4_ No, that's not it.. that's for getting variables out of the INI file..
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[05:12:20] <Connor> I'm getting a Pin 'motion.digital-out-04' does not exist
[05:12:35] <Connor> how do add more pins to motion ?
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[08:00:57] <Deejay> moin
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[11:49:46] <Bushman> http://roflcopter.pl/5606
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[14:32:13] <zoni1983> hi any one there
[14:32:28] <zoni1983> i need a bit of info
[14:33:06] <cradek> hi, in irc, always just ask your real question; you don't have to ask to ask first
[14:33:12] <zoni1983> is it nessasery to select axis for hand wheel via io
[14:33:30] <zoni1983> or can they be selected from keyboard
[14:33:46] <cradek> if you're using the AXIS gui, it has outputs you can use to select the wheel axis
[14:33:58] <cradek> also Touchy does a similar thing
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[14:47:17] <JT-Shop> you can also use a selector switch for the axis to jog
[14:47:42] <cradek> yes true, but I think his question was asking how to not do that
[14:48:24] <JT-Shop> ah yes, too quick of a glance
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[15:13:54] <Tom_itx> another windy day
[15:15:49] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: go fly a kite
[15:16:03] <Tom_itx> it would tear apart
[15:16:13] <Tom_itx> 30mph gusts or more
[15:16:14] <Jymmm> build it better
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[15:22:03] <R2E4> IS it a problem to connect a spindle servo with no encoder?
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[15:41:04] <cradek> R2E4: what do you mean problem?
[15:43:48] <R2E4> MAybe I should have said issue. I want to be able to send the coltage speed command to the spindle servo driver and not have linuxcnc worry about what speed it is at.
[15:44:10] <R2E4> Is that just remove the encoder pins for that drive?
[15:44:35] <R2E4> I have a fanuc spindle with no encoder but a magnetic sensor.
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[15:49:07] <pcw_home> does the sensor go back to the spindle drive?
[15:49:59] <R2E4> yes
[15:50:11] <R2E4> I am reading. Just got the maintenance manual today.
[15:51:04] <pcw_home> you don't need a spindle encoder unless you want to do spindle synchronized motion (like rigid tapping)
[15:51:39] <R2E4> ok, thats later I think I will install an encoder, but for now, i just want to get this spindle working.
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[16:18:28] <lv-esad> hi there
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[16:27:06] <CaptHindsight> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Webcam-Widescreen-Calling-Recording/dp/B004FHO5Y6 ok, these have an adjustable focus lens and can focus closer than 1"
[16:28:15] <CaptHindsight> the lens has a threaded barrel for focus adjustment, you just need to remove the cover and twist the lens to break the small dab of glue that holds the factory focus
[16:30:08] <archivist> is that a real 720?
[16:30:27] <Connor> Okay, so, I'm back to using o-word for tool changer stuff.. the Python just wasn't playing nice.. too complicated to get started with..
[16:32:08] <Connor> So, I have the Carousel going cw/ccw to get to the correct pocket #
[16:32:28] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302131 c270at1inch
[16:32:36] <Connor> Ram In and Ram Out functions -- checks the RamIn/RamOut sensors..
[16:32:42] <Connor> and a Air Present sensor check..
[16:32:44] <Connor> so far so good.
[16:33:08] <Connor> What's the green? Laser ?
[16:33:47] <Connor> Cheap Aluminum Spiral coupler with clamp style vs set screws.
[16:33:49] <CaptHindsight> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/hd-webcam-c270#section=specs true 1280 x 720 no interpolation
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[16:37:14] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302132
[16:38:35] <archivist> you got funny lighting or is the green a "feature"
[16:40:07] <CaptHindsight> the front cover of the cam is off, that's the green led that you see
[16:41:55] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302133
[16:42:17] <archivist> oops one of the reviews, dead after a while
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[16:42:41] <CaptHindsight> $40 usb microscope shows up later today
[16:44:04] <archivist> I was playing with one of my microscopes and a web cam today, I think I need to make a lens as it needs to focus on the hairs too
[16:45:32] <archivist> to replace this eyepiece
http://www.collection.archivist.info/showresult.php?prog=1&srcprog=searchv13.php&srcdata=title&Type=PD&Accn_no=9275&subject=26609
[16:45:54] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=03%2F09%2F2013
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[16:48:36] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302136 you can clearly see the groves from the lathe
[16:50:17] <archivist> looks good for the price
[16:50:32] <R2E4> Is there usaually an external brake for AC spindles?
[16:50:50] <CaptHindsight> I didn't look at these couplings up close until now, I had thought that they were cut by EDM until now
[16:51:58] <Connor> Who wrote the remap stuff ?
[16:52:44] <CaptHindsight> archivist: what was the distance from the lens to parts in those pics?
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[16:54:20] <archivist> about 25mm +- a mile didnt measure
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[16:55:28] <archivist> that is slr looking into the scope
[17:02:58] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302139 this is from just under 1"
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[17:04:04] <zoni1983> i need help
[17:04:15] <zoni1983> my hand wheel is not working
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[17:05:33] <zoni1983> i have installed a new hand wheel on my machine but it is not working
[17:06:20] <zoni1983> do i need i/o to select axis or can be selected from keyboard
[17:08:38] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302142 0.4mm pitch QFP
[17:08:45] <archivist> CaptHindsight, 1.5" lens to object
[17:09:48] <archivist> I just happened to have the thing on the desk down stairs at the moment
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[17:13:12] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302143 wire size - plated holes
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[17:17:03] <pcw_home> zoni1983: how is the hand wheel connected to the machine?
[17:17:05] <pcw_home> the hal file must be set up properly for the jog input source
[17:19:55] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302145
[17:20:43] <CaptHindsight> ^^ 1280 res with just over 1" field of view
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[17:22:59] <CaptHindsight> with the proper lighting and some frame averaging to lower the noise this could be a winner
[17:23:27] <archivist> filthy cutter and crap webcam
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/mirror/microscope/28modcutter.jpg
[17:24:40] <CaptHindsight> it works in Cheese so Ubuntu won't be much of an issue
[17:24:51] <archivist> your camera is a lot better than mine
[17:25:06] <archivist> I am using cheese too
[17:25:20] <Connor> cheese ?
[17:25:40] <archivist> say cheese
[17:25:46] <CaptHindsight> https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Cheese
[17:26:04] <Connor> umm.. okay.
[17:26:08] <CaptHindsight> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheese_%28software%29
[17:26:55] <Connor> I need to make a spindle mount for mine.
[17:27:14] <Connor> Just not sure how useful a camera is vs a touch probe...
[17:28:35] <CaptHindsight> a camera is better for zeroing on butter, touch probes tend to deform the butters surface
[17:29:52] <Connor> Huh ?
[17:29:56] <Connor> butter ?
[17:30:14] <archivist> he means, use the right tool for the job
[17:30:43] <CaptHindsight> has anyone come across an inexpensive laser scanner (<$1K) with 0.001" res?
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[17:42:57] <archivist> CaptHindsight, I asked a sales droid on the mitutoyo stand about measuring a cutter like in my image but the spot dia gets in the way
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[17:57:02] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140327-researchers-invent-multi-material-3d-bioprinter-to-print-live-cells.html "this 3D bio-printer is able to print 70 micron diameter cells. Their next goal is to increase its printing accuracy so it is capable of printing 20 micron diameter cells" time to get rid of the screws and use linear servos
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[17:57:25] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[19:08:43] <IchGuckLive> not many posts today
[19:08:53] <IchGuckLive> so all mills and diy are running well
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[19:12:45] <Connor> Question, how do I link a gladevcp button to a G-code file to run ?
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[19:16:18] <IchGuckLive> Connor: to load up the file and run imediatly
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[20:02:09] <Connor> No, just a gladevcp button to run a canned o-word script.. in this case, to home the carousel..
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[20:17:23] <cpresser> Connor: use halui. then add 'MDI_COMMAND' to your ini-file
[20:18:01] <cradek> I suggest having the carousel home itself when you first ask for a tool prep
[20:18:03] <cpresser> Connor: last step: wire the pin "halui.mdi-command-0?" to your button
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[20:40:00] <humble_sea_bass> CaptHindsight: any hits on laser scanners for cheap?
[20:43:09] <CaptHindsight> humble_sea_bass: there are a few maker type projects
http://makezine.com/2013/05/24/new-project-diy-3d-laser-scanner-using-arduino/ http://www.instructables.com/id/3-D-Laser-Scanner/ http://revision3.com/systm/laserscan http://hackaday.com/2011/12/01/cheap-diy-laser-scanner-is-quite-impressive/ http://www.makerscanner.com/
[20:44:34] <CaptHindsight> humble_sea_bass: and there are some cheap units without turntables like this
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1024877&gclid=COm47p3Ks70CFSISMwodjFsAsw&is=REG&Q=&A=details#Specification
[20:47:12] <CaptHindsight> http://www.aniwaa.com/3d-scanners/compare-3d-scanners/
[20:47:56] <XXCoder> I do want to have laser scanner. why not?
[20:50:28] <CaptHindsight> http://3dprinterplans.info/rubicon-3d-scanner-launches-on-indiegogo/
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[20:55:49] <CaptHindsight> humble_sea_bass: it looks like if I want Ferro quality or better I have to DIY
[20:56:14] <CaptHindsight> Ferro/Faro
[20:58:32] <CaptHindsight> http://www.faro.com/products/metrology/faro-scanarm/features#main Accuracy ±35µ (±.0014 in.) Scan Rate up to 45,120 points/sec
[21:01:58] <CaptHindsight> http://www.dirdim.com/prod_laserscanners.htm check out the prices for others in this range
[21:02:32] <XXCoder> pricing is painful, that klink lol
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[21:06:53] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, you know about the Faro - kinect project?
http://www.faro.com/scenect/scenect
[21:07:11] <humble_sea_bass> Price Range: $90,000 to $150,000
[21:07:35] <CaptHindsight> there are few Kinect scanner projects
[21:07:41] <humble_sea_bass> I thought the kinect had terrible resolution
[21:08:24] <CaptHindsight> what I'd like is a tabletop unit to scan parts that fit into most cnc machine beds
[21:09:08] <CaptHindsight> yeah, the kinect is for scanning larger areas, but one group was using them them to scan body parts for prosthetics
[21:09:53] <CaptHindsight> at least 300 x 300 x 300mm (12^3 inch)
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[21:11:20] <XXCoder> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/5232 lol
[21:11:24] <tjtr33> :) scan a 100x model of what you want then scale it down
[21:11:38] <tjtr33> then kinect rex is no prob
[21:11:41] <tjtr33> rez
[21:12:08] <XXCoder> this just needs laser and webcam
http://lifehacker.com/5822730/make-a-3d-scanner-out-of-a-webcam-laser-pointer-and-some-software/all
[21:12:58] <zoni1983> can u tell me for hand wheel to work on milling do i need to select axis
[21:13:04] <zoni1983> with io
[21:13:21] <zoni1983> can key board work
[21:13:31] <humble_sea_bass> the david laser scanner is just clever math XXCoder , it is garbage for real world applications
[21:13:47] <zoni1983> for axis select
[21:14:01] <XXCoder> cant 3d print or cnc stuff with result?
[21:14:02] <humble_sea_bass> zoni. page up/down move the z axis
[21:14:29] <zoni1983> yes but i want to move axis via hand wheel
[21:14:33] <humble_sea_bass> arrows move the x/y and you change the feed rate with ><
[21:15:13] <humble_sea_bass> you can do it, but you'll have to home tthe axis later if you don't have encoders
[21:15:33] <zoni1983> in pncconf i have selected hand wheel mpg
[21:16:12] <humble_sea_bass> uuh, are we talking about a manual pulse generator
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[21:16:21] <humble_sea_bass> or handcranks on your motors
[21:16:23] <Connor> cradek: I can do that, but still want a home button.
[21:16:36] <Connor> Will have to add another flag to say that it's been homed.
[21:16:40] <zoni1983> manual pulse generator
[21:19:30] <zoni1983> in manual mode i am rotating mpg and it is not working
[21:22:06] <zoni1983> any body please
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[21:29:25] <JT-Shop> how did you hook it up?
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[21:31:50] <humble_sea_bass> any body please
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[21:33:52] <kengu> any what?
[21:34:35] <zoni1983> was disconnected any body please answer
[21:36:43] <zoni1983> my mpg is not woking
[21:36:54] <JT-Shop> zoni1983, what have you done to test the installation?
[21:37:56] <zoni1983> in hal meter it shows up an down counting
[21:38:09] <JT-Shop> that's a good start
[21:38:20] <JT-Shop> how did you make your configuration?
[21:38:29] <zoni1983> via pnnconf
[21:38:47] <zoni1983> v2.5.3
[21:39:09] <JT-Shop> can you pastebin your hal file?
[21:39:48] <zoni1983> i am on mobile so not possible
[21:40:28] <zoni1983> but can you tell me that is it nessary to select acis for mpg via io pin
[21:40:44] <zoni1983> or can key board selection work
[21:40:46] <JT-Shop> I would think so
[21:41:00] <JT-Shop> I don't know how pncconf makes the connections
[21:41:23] <JT-Shop> you can ask on the forum there is a dedicated section for pncconf
[21:41:50] <zoni1983> JT-Shop, can i email u hal file later
[21:42:14] <JT-Shop> best to post it to pastebin or upload it to the forum
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[21:42:33] <JT-Shop> the author of pncconf is on the forum
[21:42:54] <Deejay> gn8
[21:43:03] <zoni1983> in pncconf i have not given any gpio for axis selection
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[21:43:33] <zoni1983> i use mouse to select axis or xyz key in manual mode
[21:44:04] <JT-Shop> here is how I connect a MPG
http://pastebin.com/wvtqPjGY
[21:44:16] <JT-Shop> I don't know anything about pncconf
[21:45:24] <zoni1983> help me one more thing it is about axis homing
[21:45:53] <zoni1983> i want to home using index
[21:46:50] <zoni1983> my motor rotates in reverse so i have to give scale in negitive
[21:47:45] <zoni1983> i have set use index to yes but the macjine touches tj home limit twise
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[21:48:40] <zoni1983> anf in hal meter it does not show it touches index
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[21:51:56] <tjtr33> zoni1983, this may help
http://www.anderswallin.net/2006/11/jogging-emc2/ anders has mesa io pcb, and uses switch to select x y or z, also mpg
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[21:55:05] <tjtr33> for homing, look at integrators manual, section 4.3. which of the 4 configurations are you using?
[21:58:10] <zoni1983> i am using limit and index
[21:59:10] <tjtr33> then it is correct to hit the switch twice, BUT it should move further to find the index ( see diagram )
[22:00:04] <tjtr33> what do you see happen when it hits the switch 2nd time?
[22:00:35] <zoni1983> in diagram it says i need to give search velosity positive
[22:01:31] <zoni1983> but i cant because my motors are rotating in oppostie direction
[22:02:06] <tjtr33> true, but the text grid says 'nonzero' ( i agree its confusing )
[22:02:57] <zoni1983> so negitive search velocity does not matter
[22:03:25] <zoni1983> or does it effect
[22:03:51] <tjtr33> i cannot confirm it without trying it, can you safely try it? ( maybe move to center of travel and trip the switch by hand ? )
[22:04:30] <zoni1983> i tried tobtrip switch by hand
[22:04:48] <zoni1983> i have to trip switch twise
[22:04:57] <zoni1983> for it to home
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[22:05:32] <tjtr33> yes, what do you see happen after 2nd time?
[22:05:40] <JT-Shop> tjtr33, which text is confusing?
[22:06:03] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, the diagram say positivem the text grid says nonzero section 4.3
[22:06:09] <JT-Shop> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_homing.html#_homing_sequence
[22:06:47] <zoni1983> it slows down but on hal meter the index does not show
[22:07:13] <tjtr33> zoni1983, try to confirn that the index appears
[22:07:29] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, see what i mean?
[22:07:50] <tjtr33> zoni1983, try to confirn that the index appears _eventually__
[22:07:50] <zoni1983> how do i do that
[22:07:59] <JT-Shop> tjtr33, not really the charts are an example of search and latch in different directions and the same direction
[22:08:02] <tjtr33> move to middle of stroke and jog a looooong way
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[22:08:52] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, ok the text grid is generic and the diagram is specific, ok sorry & thanks
[22:09:24] <JT-Shop> zoni1983, check that your index is working
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/encoder.html
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[22:09:50] <zoni1983> but the diagram says that the serchvelity should be positive
[22:09:58] <zoni1983> is it nessary
[22:10:01] <JT-Shop> the text above the diagrams need to be expanded
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[22:13:26] <tjtr33> (JT thats the confusion, i can see his point, but then, i'm easily confused :)
[22:13:26] <JT-Shop> zoni1983, only look at if the diagram shows both in the same direction or in different directions
[22:13:26] <JT-Shop> it would be clearer if latchvel said same or opposite perhaps
[22:13:26] <JT-Shop> dunno if I can edit the diagram or not... but I'll look
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[22:13:27] <zoni1983> in third the serchvel is pos and latch vel is neg
[22:13:33] <JT-Shop> so opposite
[22:13:39] <zoni1983> yes
[22:14:48] * JT-Shop goes down to the beer cave to see if it is possible to clear up the diagram or not
[22:15:12] <zoni1983> so if my motors home swich is in opposite dir and i give serchvel neg and latch vel positive it should work
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[22:16:54] <jthornton> yes
[22:17:49] <zoni1983> but it does not it touches the switch twise
[22:19:20] <zoni1983> JT-Shop: i will upload my hal and ini to pastebin will u please check it
[22:19:24] <tjtr33> 3rd diagram does not touch twice (2nd & 4th diagram do touch twice )
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[22:20:30] <zoni1983> tjtr33: yes but i have given servel and latchvel opposite
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[22:30:04] <tjtr33> zonii have to go back to work, please check that your index pulse does occur
[22:30:08] <tjtr33> bbl
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[22:38:21] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302200 the router cleaned up well after some sanding, polishing and anodize
[22:38:42] <XXCoder> nice!
[22:38:49] <XXCoder> it looked pretty bad before.
[22:41:29] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/302203
[22:42:19] <XXCoder> nice indeed
[22:43:42] <CaptHindsight> they just need a little TLC out of the box
[22:43:52] <XXCoder> I bet. :)
[22:44:16] <XXCoder> I'm starting to wonder if I could grab lot of alum scrap and melt em into slabs so I can mill em into cnc parts
[22:44:58] <XXCoder> I doubt it, bit lot work even if it probably would be pretty cheap
[22:46:32] <CaptHindsight> the router next to has >1/8" of play in the X, there is no preload on the ballscrew, and the holder for the bearing is 1mm oversized
[22:46:52] <XXCoder> still fixing it I see
[22:47:38] <CaptHindsight> they do a good job of machining them, they just don't put them together right
[22:49:42] <CaptHindsight> the factory must be knee deep in filth
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[22:51:20] <XXCoder> probably
[22:51:29] <XXCoder> or clean but dirty materials
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[22:58:22] <XXCoder> anyway glad see youre making nice progress.
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[23:29:28] <R2E4_> Does Linuxcnc wait for spindle to get up to speed before it starts feeding?
[23:31:16] <JT-Shop> only with css
[23:31:32] <JT-Shop> you can do feed moves with the spindle off if you like
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[23:32:20] <JT-Shop> R2E4, did you get your spindle running?
[23:32:43] <Tom_itx> css?
[23:33:00] <JT-Shop> constant surface speed
[23:33:17] <XXCoder> lol was thinking in website design terms
[23:33:24] <XXCoder> too much CS :P
[23:33:47] <JT-Shop> heh
[23:35:02] <R2E4_> Thats what I am working on now.
[23:35:27] <R2E4_> DUH, I'm doing feed moves with the spindle not connected....lol
[23:35:32] * JT-Shop goes to work on dinner
[23:35:51] <JT-Shop> my DX-32 won't allow feed moves with the spindle off
[23:35:56] <R2E4_> Its weird though. No encoder but a magnetic sensor. Fanux....jeez!
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[23:38:01] <R2E4_> I have vcmd in +10, sp forward, sp reverse, tool unclamp, low gear and orientation all inputs gnd in except +10
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[23:39:26] <R2E4_> outputs I have SP speed check signal, SP certain speed signal, SP zero speed signal, sp alarm and Orientation all outputs gnd
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