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[00:00:32] <micges> R2E4: yes
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[00:02:07] <Connor> okay, how do you read in a pin value into a O word function ?
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[00:09:10] <micges> Connor: bit pin or float pin?
[00:09:30] <Connor> number.. so, I'm thinking motion.analog-out
[00:10:57] <micges> Connor:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/m-code.html#sec:M66-Input-Control
[00:12:46] <Connor> crap
[00:12:50] <Connor> s32 can't be float
[00:13:09] <micges> Connor: M66 E0 L0 ; will read motion.analog-in-00 into param #5399
[00:13:33] <Connor> yea. but the value is coming from a component output the value as s32
[00:14:05] <micges> use conv-s32-float module
[00:14:22] <Connor> yup. on it already
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[00:15:05] <Connor> how does those work.. I've never used them.
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[00:21:46] <micges> like all comp
[00:21:47] <micges> s
[00:22:06] <micges> s32 is input, converted to float is output
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[00:56:40] <Connor> micges: Is there a way to output a variable for debugging in O words>
[00:57:31] <micges> what do you mean exactly by O words?
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[00:57:57] <Connor> Well.. I want to see what's assigned to #5399
[00:58:04] <PetefromTn_Andro> Connor man is there any way I can help ya here? I sure wish I knew more about that kinda programming stuff just never done anything like it before.
[00:58:42] <Connor> trying to figure out why my do loop is infinate loop when #5399 should be 0 and #5 is too.
[00:58:56] <Connor> PetefromTn_Andro: I'm good.. Doing this in the simulator.. trying to figure the hard part out..
[00:59:06] <Connor> once that's done.. we should be good on other building blocks.
[00:59:42] <micges> Connor: (DEBUG, #5399)
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[01:00:13] <Connor> Oh boy...
[01:00:24] <Connor> it's returning 0.00000
[01:00:31] <Connor> which I bet doesn't eq 0 ? huh ?
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[02:15:41] <Connor> Hey Guys.. on the tool table...
[02:15:50] <Connor> the POC slot.. that's suppose to be the Pocket.. is it not ?
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[02:16:38] <Connor> When I do a (DEBUG, #<_selected_tool>) it show the row # of the tool, not the value in the POC field..
[02:16:41] <Connor> Is that right ?
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[02:43:12] <Connor> Hello? Anyone care to comment on tool tables and pocket numbers?
[02:43:38] <R2E4> Conner, PEte comingback topnight?
[02:43:46] <Connor> probably not
[02:44:12] <R2E4> ah... Ran m,y first gcode dry..... Everything looks good so far.
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[02:47:27] <Connor_iPad> From what I can tell. The POC field in the tool table isn't used.
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[02:51:51] <Connor_iPad> So, can anyone confirm or deny that?
[02:54:14] <skunkworks> I think it depends on if you are using a random tool changer or not.. (if the tool goes into the same pocket it was taken out of - or the pocket of the new tool)
[02:55:16] <Connor_iPad> So, then POC is only valid if random is turned on?
[02:55:41] <Connor_iPad> Other wise it uses the row number as the pocket?
[02:58:07] <skunkworks> that sounds right... But I only have a limited knowlege of it
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[02:58:37] <Connor> That's kind strange.. I would think it would use the POC field regardless...
[03:01:14] <skunkworks> I think poc is the physical pocket.. (and can change if it is a random tool changer is used)
[03:01:27] <skunkworks> otherwise poc = tool number
[03:01:41] <Connor> No. POC != tool number..
[03:01:45] <Connor> ever.
[03:01:50] <skunkworks> really?
[03:02:14] <Connor> it's the ROW in the tool table.. or the POC # based on that random tool changer value
[03:03:07] <skunkworks> my tool tables all have Poc=tool number
[03:04:39] <Connor_iPad> Strange. Not sure what this means.
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[11:01:08] * jthornton thinks poc is always == to tool number unless you have a random tool changer
[11:02:23] <jthornton> unless your using your CNC to dial your phone in your pocket!
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[11:48:54] <skunkworks> jthornton, I really think the g96 css issue is that he is using the wrong spindle speed pin. The sample config uses motion .spindle-speed-out as it changes with x postion. while motion.spindle-speed-cmd-rps does not.
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[11:54:25] <jthornton> I use motion.spindle-speed-out-rps on the CHNC
[11:54:41] <skunkworks> oh
[11:54:58] <jthornton> just looking at the config for the CHNC
[11:55:05] <skunkworks> and at-speed and everything works for css?
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[11:55:32] <jthornton> yes
[11:57:53] <jthornton> I just posted the spindle section of my hal file
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[12:31:56] <R2E4_awy> mornin
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[12:37:22] <R2E4> 2%
[12:37:42] <skunkworks> 3%
[12:38:03] <R2E4> sorry, meant for another window.
[12:38:20] <R2E4> I ran some gcode last night on my machine with no problems.
[12:38:44] <skunkworks> really? you got it tuned decent enough?
[12:38:57] <R2E4> yeah, its good. Really smooth
[12:39:11] <R2E4> I'm ramped up!!!!!
[12:39:13] <skunkworks> Awesome!
[12:39:31] <skunkworks> You definatly put a lot of sweat into it :)
[12:39:51] <R2E4> All these big machines I think you have to.
[12:40:00] <R2E4> I dont see a way around it.
[12:40:20] <R2E4> But I'm learning bigtime every step of the way.
[12:40:27] <skunkworks> sure - you have a retrofitter come in and drop 100K on it ;)
[12:40:53] <R2E4> HUH? Thats what they would charge?
[12:41:10] <skunkworks> heh - no clue.. Just assume..
[12:41:25] <R2E4> 100K, you could get a brand new one.
[12:41:54] <skunkworks> you think you could get a machine that is similar in size for 100K brand new?
[12:42:26] <R2E4> I would think so. not sure.
[12:42:37] * skunkworks doesn't know either
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[12:44:08] <R2E4> 800 hours * say 50.00 is 40 G's, Dont think it would cost that much to retrofit. 800 hours is alot of hours for a company that does just that.
[12:45:04] <R2E4> http://www.haascnc.com/vmc_we.asp?sizeID=30_40INCH_VMC#gsc.tab=0
[12:45:41] <JT-Shop> they get more than $50 hr for sure
[12:46:27] <R2E4> For service calls, i agree, but for installation and retrofit, they have to be compettitive.
[12:46:38] <skunkworks> with who? ;)
[12:46:57] <R2E4> yeah, you got a point...lol
[12:47:47] <JT-Shop> competitive is $100 hr most get more than that
[12:48:41] <R2E4> maybe hours is off, 800 hours 100/hr thats 80,000. HAAS vf2 brand new is 59,000.00
[12:48:42] <archivist> "what the market will bare" pricing
[12:49:15] <R2E4> IS there companies out there doing just retrofits and service?
[12:49:29] <JT-Shop> yes
[12:49:32] <R2E4> cause other than here, I dont see much of that happening.
[12:50:22] <JT-Shop> you don't see it from here, I do build/refit machinery for a living
[12:50:56] <R2E4> well.... there you go. thats cool. So I saved a good chucnk of change?
[12:51:05] <JT-Shop> most of my work is in factories and we use industrial stuff
[12:51:14] <skunkworks> R2E4, yes - plus you can fix it...
[12:51:38] <R2E4> hehe, I will know this machine inside and out, thats for sure.
[12:51:52] <JT-Shop> did you really work 20 40hr weeks refitting it?
[12:52:15] <R2E4> LinuxCNC is really cool. It just f%^$king works.
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[12:52:19] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140326-factum-high-speed-sintering-3d-printer-makes-parts-in-less-than-a-second.html
[12:52:24] <JT-Shop> or did you spend most of the time learning the trade?
[12:53:05] <R2E4> no, not really. Your right, if I break it down, it was mostly learning, and figuring out how the machine works and figuring out linux.
[12:54:27] <R2E4> I spent alot of time researching the motors/drives and figuring out they work.
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[12:54:53] <archivist_> how quick would you be next time :)
[12:54:59] <JT-Shop> so your second refit will go much faster :)
[12:55:34] <R2E4> yes certainly. Starting with my 4X4 CNC router. Get it off Muck3
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[13:22:40] <R2E4> I would like to do that for a living, but no thank you. Too many variables, too much could go wrong or things pop up that you didnt account for.
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[13:25:01] <archivist> I think you need a sensible contract, (costs may go up) and sufficient funds when things take longer than expected
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[13:44:25] <R2E4> Anyone have any leads to fanuc manuals? # B-53425E
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[14:20:35] <R2E4> IF I touch off for X and Y, this becomes my offset 0,0?
[14:22:24] <R2E4> I just found it, G54 offset. Thats what I needed to know.
[14:22:55] <JT-Shop> http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/index.html
[14:24:01] <JT-Shop> R2E4, I generally have the front face of the back jaw as Y0 and use a dowel in the spindle to locate the X0 of the material in the vise
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[14:24:51] <JT-Shop> then touch off X (in my case a 0.500" dowel) to -0.25 or 0.25 depending on the side of the material I'm on
[14:25:46] <R2E4> I was thinking on buying an edge finding tool, but I can see your way working.
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[14:29:55] <JT-Shop> I use an edge finder to locate the back jaw
[14:30:41] <JT-Shop> I use a $25 Starrett Edge Finder NO. 827B
[14:31:08] <_methods> you always need an edgefinder
[14:31:12] <JT-Shop> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCcQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaUa_B6YIt_M&ei=pOQyU5P5NY3aoAT5koGAAg&usg=AFQjCNGHUCUBZ_ySa_GgUBZ7rqKINeYeNw&sig2=MtFhuQRTCd6A3xh8JltO1A&bvm=bv.63738703,d.cGU
[14:31:24] <_methods> should be one of the first tools you buy
[14:31:29] <JT-Shop> wow what a link... stupid google
[14:31:46] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUa_B6YIt_M
[14:34:03] <R2E4> Spindle is moving.... ??
[14:34:22] <JT-Shop> yea at 1000 rpm usually
[14:34:44] <_methods> hehe not 5000
[14:34:47] <_methods> did that one time
[14:34:56] <R2E4> I thought they were done without the spindle moving
[14:34:58] <JT-Shop> lol did it survive?
[14:34:58] <_methods> came in in the morning and forgot my edgefinder was in teh spindle
[14:35:03] <_methods> hell no
[14:35:08] <_methods> almost hit me in the head
[14:35:26] <_methods> tip went flyin
[14:35:45] <_methods> ran the warm up lol
[14:36:11] <_methods> i was standin there doing paperwork
[14:36:12] <_methods> heheh
[14:36:30] <_methods> had the doors open too like an idiot
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[14:40:14] <archivist> I never got around to getting an edge finder
[14:40:42] <_methods> what do you use?
[14:40:48] <_methods> dowel?
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[14:41:59] <archivist> usually making round stuff so measure the size of a cut then set offset
[14:42:07] <_methods> oh
[14:42:27] <_methods> you don't need one usually for lathe work
[14:42:45] <_methods> can't imagine doing mill work without one
[14:43:08] <_methods> unless you have a machine with probes
[14:43:10] <archivist> and for clock gears one does not know the cutter od to tip distance
[14:44:12] <archivist> the effective pcd of the cutter
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/target.php
[14:46:31] <archivist> which includes run out of the mount etc
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[14:49:07] <R2E4> Thats small.
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[15:13:20] <somenewguy> my mill has 1.5 tho lash in the X axis, is that too much ya think?
[15:13:37] <somenewguy> its a split brass nut on 1/2 x 20 tpi rods, so I can tighten it up,but the danger of missed stepps comes up
[15:15:33] <archivist> might be better to add another nut with a spring between the two
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[15:16:12] <archivist> you can add compensation for the play you have in linuxcnc
[15:16:40] <somenewguy> oh is that feature nice and relialbe?
[15:16:49] <somenewguy> I knew it existed, just sounded fancy
[15:17:15] <somenewguy> also for th record I have yet to notice any issues with my play, my tolernces aren't that tight, and everything circular I have milled sure looks circular
[15:17:29] <somenewguy> I worry about the slopp causing damage when I am climb milling or whatever
[15:18:17] <JT-Shop> you shouldn't climb mill with a sloppy acme screw axis
[15:18:42] <archivist> depends what you are cutting too
[15:19:01] <somenewguy> so 1.5 thou counts as sloppy? that is the real question here
[15:19:34] <somenewguy> I have no clue what the orders of magntitude are with these things, I am not a machinest, I just pretend when no ones looking
[15:19:35] <archivist> far better than one of my axes :)
[15:20:22] <somenewguy> my machine isn't super rigid, being a desktop mill, so I don't take very aggressive cuts, but I can revert to conventional milling if that is best
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[15:22:19] <JT-Shop> you probably have a lot more than 0.0015" positional error with an acme screw... you just have to work within the limitations of the machine
[15:22:25] <archivist> for a 6 thou cut per rev 1.5 thou is not too much
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[15:23:13] <somenewguy> its not an acme screw, its 20tpi 1/2inch rod
[15:23:24] <JT-Shop> all thread?
[15:23:43] <somenewguy> no, its too straight to be all thread, factory equipt on a TAIG
[15:23:45] <somenewguy> gimme a sec
[15:24:07] <somenewguy> well i guesss technically yes its all thread
[15:24:15] <somenewguy> just when I think all thread, I think the junk from the hardware store
[15:24:46] <JT-Shop> lol yea there is all thread and there is all thread
[15:25:08] <somenewguy> http://thehobbyistmachineshop.com/Taig/DSC04207.jpg
[15:25:23] <JT-Shop> so basically you have a 1/2" NF threaded rod
[15:25:27] <somenewguy> http://thehobbyistmachineshop.com/Taig/DSC04214.jpg better picture
[15:25:30] <somenewguy> yes
[15:25:43] <somenewguy> never seen such a big fine rod
[15:25:48] <somenewguy> ....I can't belive I just said that
[15:26:36] <somenewguy> so it sounds like .0015 is enough that I should start using software compensation
[15:26:41] <archivist> that is what the actress said to the bishop
[15:26:52] <somenewguy> is that a set-and-forget feature, or do I need to be concious of it when I am using the mill now?
[15:27:02] <somenewguy> I'll start reading about it tonight after work
[15:27:31] <somenewguy> just want to make sure its worth distracting myself lol, so much to and play with, so little time
[15:27:32] <skunkworks_> archivist, do you guys over there actually have vicars and tart parties?
[15:27:40] <archivist> measure now and again and adjust as the nuts wear
[15:27:52] <JT-Shop> if you use backlash compensation read the manual carefully
[15:28:10] <archivist> skunkworks, I have no idea, I am an innocent boy
[15:28:15] <skunkworks_> heh
[15:28:29] <JT-Shop> you can also "map" the screw
[15:29:08] <archivist> the hobbymat has a similar leadscrew, I used it for my Z
[15:31:58] <somenewguy> ok, maybe when it warms up I will map out the screw
[15:32:20] <somenewguy> do you just attach a digital vernieer to the axis and tabulate position data?
[15:32:34] <somenewguy> with "just" in quotes of course
[15:34:21] <archivist> some of the digital verniers are quite good so can be used for that
[15:34:47] <archivist> others are known as guessing sticks
[15:34:53] <somenewguy> haha
[15:35:13] <somenewguy> I compared mine against some real measuring devices and the resolution was impressive
[15:35:18] <somenewguy> but I still don't trust it
[15:35:27] <somenewguy> I assume the accuracy over a range is spotty
[15:35:40] <somenewguy> wayyyyy too cheap for them to be as good as they seem
[15:36:04] <archivist> I have tested mine on blocks, usually within half a thou
[15:36:24] <somenewguy> ok mine are the same, but they are like 10-40 dollar verniers
[15:36:37] <somenewguy> find it kinda hard to believe, even tho they have yet to fail a test against a standard
[15:37:19] <archivist> watch for dirt/burs in the jars and loose gib screws on them
[15:37:44] <somenewguy> will do
[15:38:05] <somenewguy> thankfully I have exactly 1 good mearing device that I can compare all my other discount ones against
[15:40:05] <somenewguy> sunnen bore mic w/ a gauge ring that is +-.0001
[15:40:37] <somenewguy> vs my set of 6 mics that I think I paid 45 bucks for brand new... somehow all the mics are actaully accurate
[15:40:51] <somenewguy> but the gauge/setting blocks they came with are ALL .002 oversize
[15:40:59] <somenewguy> well done china, well done
[15:41:00] <JT-Shop> see comp file
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_config.html#sub:AXIS-section
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[15:41:49] <R2E4> What is the best way to get the machine calibrated so when i move it 10", it actually moves 10 inches precisely.
[15:42:12] <R2E4> I see it now accurate with a tape measure, but needs to be more precise.
[15:42:48] <JT-Shop> do you know your encoder counts?
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[15:43:43] <archivist> do you know your screw pitch
[15:43:50] <rodfrey> Hi! I'm trying to remap m6 with a pure python function. I'm obviously missing something, because the change_epilog function isn't being called.
[15:43:50] <somenewguy> JT-Shop: thanks, bookmarked for tonight
[15:44:06] <R2E4> No, I dont have that data.
[15:44:15] <rodfrey> My mapping is
[15:44:15] <rodfrey> REMAP=M6 modalgroup=6 prolog=change_prolog epilog=change_epilog py=toolchange
[15:44:20] <somenewguy> for aluminum and plastic work on a taig, waht do you think of this trunion table?
http://deepgroove1.com/videos.htm
[15:44:23] <somenewguy> top left video
[15:44:36] <somenewguy> it looks like EXACTLY what I need for all my polycarbonate milling the last month or so
[15:45:07] <rodfrey> def change_epilog(self, **words): | h.newpin("blow", hal.HAL_BIT, hal.HAL_OUT)
[15:45:07] <rodfrey> print 'change epilog'
[15:45:33] <rodfrey> Whups the h.newpin came from the adjacent buffer in vim. Sorry. :)
[15:45:36] <rodfrey> just a print statement
[15:45:40] <rodfrey> have the same in change epilog
[15:45:57] <rodfrey> the prolog is called, my code executes (moves to the correct rack position, etc.) but epilog isn't called
[15:46:25] <rodfrey> Do I have to signal lcnc somehow that I've finished?
[15:46:35] <rodfrey> besides returning INTERP_OK?
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[15:52:01] <somenewguy> welp way over my head....
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[15:53:42] <rodfrey> Mine too, apparently. :)
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[15:54:09] <JT-Shop> idiots sent my parts to Kansas!
[15:54:47] <humble_sea_bass> they wanted your parts to have a conservative home
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[17:05:50] <Connor> Starting to think I should write this remap toolchange in python instead of O-code
[17:06:33] <Connor> That way I don't have to deal with using the motion pins to pass signals back and forth..
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[17:16:20] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[17:16:27] <XXCoder> hey
[17:17:09] <IchGuckLive> pcw ? all errors clar now it has been the cable tunnel
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[17:53:54] <archivist> the old way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmsIdJ50wFU&app=desktop
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[18:43:47] <kb8wmc> good day to all
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[18:52:11] <JT-Shop> my parts are finally on the way to me
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[19:12:39] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, what parts?
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[19:14:35] <Tom_itx> nice chilly WINDY! rainy day here
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[19:46:23] <R2E4_> The home and limit switches need to be not right?
[19:47:03] <JT-Shop> some air filters I'm making for the Spyder nuts
[19:48:14] <JT-Shop> got anodized blue in Kansas City
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[19:51:39] <Tom_itx> you didn't anodize em?
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[19:52:14] <JT-Shop> didn't have time
[19:52:35] <Tom_itx> the store takin off a bit?
[19:53:07] <JT-Shop> yea since I bought the banner ad it is doing good
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[19:54:06] <Tom_itx> on a spyder site?
[19:54:25] <JT-Shop> I hate it when LinuxCNC won't let me do a dumb thing...
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[20:08:49] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: It's just not a s sadistic as you are masochistic =)
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[20:14:38] <R2E4_> IS it normal to have the X and Y 0 farthest away and to the right of the table, I guess it depends on the manufacturer, but isthere a standard?
[20:20:23] <kengu> it is ok/normal
[20:20:42] <kengu> at least my laser cutter works that way as the home is there
[20:21:13] <ReadError> i do mine in the lower left
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[20:24:11] <kengu> mirrored axis is always fun (; so make the 0,0 to be upper left (: or something
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[20:30:19] <R2E4_> haha, no thanks. The home switches are placed so that it homes in upper right. Everything will be cutting in - direction. A bit bizarre.
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[20:35:34] <kengu> well.. home can be in 2000,2000 or something
[20:36:33] <R2E4_> I'm not looking to make my life difficult. I'll stick with 0,0 for now
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[21:05:01] <Connor> okay, So, Thoughts on python vs o-code for umbrella style tool changer using remap ?
[21:05:13] <Connor> having to use the motion pins sucks.
[21:05:35] <Connor> but python looks a bit more complicated to get going.
[21:10:58] <JT-Shop> python is fun and easy
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[21:13:17] <Connor> I have the carousel tool change part done in o-code.. it's simple.. but, not sure I like having to use the motion pins..
[21:17:29] <XXCoder> why?
[21:17:50] <Connor> Just add another layer of pins I have to net together in hal..
[21:20:29] <Bushman> ave
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[21:45:10] <Connor> anyone know how to abort out of a sub using o-code? or error out?
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[22:01:25] <Bushman> Connor: what do you mean by abort or error out? who or what will be sending the abort/error signal?
[22:01:59] <Connor> I think I figured it out.. having to set a # value above 30.. and having the toolchange return 0 or 1
[22:02:01] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:03:26] <Bushman> o_O?
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[22:36:24] <XXCoder> I wonder if cnc can be accurate enough to make capiers
[22:36:32] <XXCoder> calipers
[22:36:44] <XXCoder> it seem it can be printed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP7harBuc-Q
[22:39:14] <XXCoder> lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1z5zAEpUIw&feature=player_detailpage
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[22:55:05] <CaptHindsight> http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140326-factum-high-speed-sintering-3d-printer-makes-parts-in-less-than-a-second.html if the parts are only 1 layer thick
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[23:06:17] <Valen> I'm suprised people aren't "ink jet" printing with steel
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[23:06:33] <XXCoder> its still too expensive
[23:06:42] <XXCoder> simple method needs fountary
[23:06:43] <Valen> just have a pool of hot steel and use a solenoid or something to cause it to squirt some out
[23:07:00] <XXCoder> theres ones that directly fuse metal but pricing ow
[23:07:17] <Valen> most of the metal ones Ive seen are metal powder + laser
[23:07:24] <Valen> the better ones use electron beam welding
[23:07:34] <Valen> but they always introduce cold metal then add heat
[23:09:21] <XXCoder> well any process that result in model thats either done or needs some simple process to be done is nice
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[23:19:06] <CaptHindsight> Valen: inkjet can't handle steel, but there are other deposition methods like e-beam
[23:19:40] <Valen> CaptHindsight: it could if you made a print head to do so
[23:19:52] <Valen> IE a ceramic print head
[23:19:54] <CaptHindsight> I'm working on that
[23:20:03] <CaptHindsight> we're printing printheads
[23:20:50] <CaptHindsight> but why print with molten metal?
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[23:23:37] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A10XEZvkgbY Sciaky's Electron Beam Additive Manufacturing
[23:25:08] <andypugh> I worked on an electron-beam welding project once, it’s great.
[23:25:08] <CaptHindsight> inkjets are actually pretty finicky
[23:26:19] <andypugh> The project I was on did 1m (3’) thick welds in a single pass. Just butt two flat plates together, and weld.
[23:26:23] <CaptHindsight> you can jet molten metal from a ceramic nozzle using high pressure nitrogen
[23:26:40] <CaptHindsight> andypugh: nice
[23:28:03] <XXCoder> dang 1m
[23:28:07] <XXCoder> nice.
[23:28:12] <CaptHindsight> andypugh:
http://www.3ders.org/articles/20140326-factum-high-speed-sintering-3d-printer-makes-parts-in-less-than-a-second.html I don't see how it's any faster than 1 sec per layer
[23:28:56] <XXCoder> it says one second per part and theres lots parts
[23:29:11] <XXCoder> if it makes 60 parts in 60 second thats one per sec
[23:29:28] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLndYWw5_y8 metal powder injected into molten metal
[23:30:07] <CaptHindsight> XXCoder: yes, it could be fun with numbers
[23:30:14] <XXCoder> it olviously is
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[23:31:38] <CaptHindsight> so if you had 1000 machines it would 1 part per mS
[23:32:04] <XXCoder> well I guess they counted it as from single run
[23:32:13] <XXCoder> multi-machine cant be counted as single run
[23:32:34] <CaptHindsight> sure it can
[23:34:09] <CaptHindsight> if you're going to be misleading with "FACTUM high speed sintering 3D printer makes a part in less than a second"
[23:35:45] <XXCoder> lol
[23:36:05] <XXCoder> "With suffecent resources you can complete 500 parts per second"
[23:37:19] <XXCoder> LOL!!!
http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm390002.htm
[23:37:32] <XXCoder> homopathic meds recalled.. because it has medicine in it
[23:38:15] <Valen> lol
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[23:48:42] <andypugh> It seems that “Fair Deal Homeopathy” no longer exists. That was an inteesting site, they sold genuine homeopathic remedies cheaply, whilst being entirely homest that they didn’t work:
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/fairdeal_homeopathy
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[23:49:29] <XXCoder> interesting
[23:49:37] <cradek> I read a study recently that found strong evidence that the placebo effect works EVEN when you make it clear to the patient they are getting a placebo
[23:50:09] <cradek> I should say: that placebos work
[23:50:18] <XXCoder> yeah placebo effect is all kinds of weird, but it cant do everything
[23:50:34] <XXCoder> no matter how many times it states it would cure cancer, it wont.
[23:50:35] <andypugh> I just found their (not updated for years) twitter feed with such testimonials as “my bruise cleared up in only 6 days after taking your remedy” :-)
[23:51:07] <cradek> heh
[23:51:19] <XXCoder> lol
[23:54:30] <R2E4_> I saw earlier on the Linuxcnc wiki that it shows a + before the Home_search_vel and after. IS this correct? I am trying to find it again.
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[23:56:00] <Valen> XXCoder: actually many of the cancer drugs are going to be about as effective as a placebo
[23:56:38] <Valen> in the mental health field new studies into placebos are showing that if the pill makes you feel like crap then its just as effective as the "medication"
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[23:57:09] <Valen> IE in all the placebo controlled trials they do people know if they are on the drug or not because the drug makes them sick
