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[00:03:23] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, sounds like he didn't save and update the table
[00:04:11] <Tom_itx> i think he has been leaving the tool table open in the editor while touching off
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[00:18:00] <JT-Shop> not a good idea
[00:18:08] <JT-Shop> did you get 1.7.01?
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[00:20:29] <Tom_itx> not yet
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[00:23:34] <CHNCguy> hey hey guys! ;)
[00:24:10] <CHNCguy> can anyone point me to a good tutorial on how to tune servos?
[00:24:39] <JT-Shop> velocity or torque mode?
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[00:27:11] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx, I added a button to write the G code to a file in .01
[00:27:41] <CHNCguy> well both i suppose :)
[00:28:15] <PCW> Tuning is quite different for velocity or torque mode
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[00:28:28] <CHNCguy> I am trying to see if I can retrofit an older moriseiki, with DC servos and drives
[00:28:33] <JT-Shop> ah I only have velocity
http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/index.html
[00:28:37] <CHNCguy> how would they differ?
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[00:28:46] <Tom_itx> gcode or settings?
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[00:29:41] <CHNCguy> settings from servo to control to control velocity, toque, critically damped etc...
[00:30:08] <PCW> If your drives have tachometers they are velocity mode drives
[00:30:25] <CHNCguy> can linuxcnc interface with them?
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[00:31:38] <PCW> Yes
[00:31:39] * JT-Shop wanders off to whoop up some gumbo
[00:31:53] <JT-Shop> goodnight
[00:32:04] <CHNCguy> night
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[00:32:23] <PCW> 'nite JT
[00:32:25] <PCW> typically velocity mode drives are easier to tune
[00:32:41] <CHNCguy> so i am looking at JT's tutorial, not really understanding how to change the setting to effect the curve
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[00:33:56] <CHNCguy> is there a vid of tuning?
[00:34:25] <PCW> different settings affect different parts of a motion profile
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[00:35:38] <CHNCguy> so these are the bars on the right correct?
[00:36:32] <CHNCguy> the gain/pos?
[00:36:41] <PCW> those are the scope settings if we are on the same page...
[00:37:14] <CHNCguy> ya i figured that...after i typed it LOL
[00:37:30] <CHNCguy> so where are the P FF1 and FF2 changed at?
[00:37:42] <PCW> Typically you would use the "calibrate" menu in Axis for servo tuning
[00:38:02] <PCW> Do you have linuxcnc running?
[00:38:37] <CHNCguy> not this second, its in the shop just wanting some base info before I got started ;)
[00:39:01] <CHNCguy> would calibrate automatically do it for each axis?
[00:39:36] <PCW> its all manual (but calibrate has tabs for each axis)
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[00:41:12] <CHNCguy> cool, ill have to play with it while I get back there.
[00:41:16] <PCW> much easier to understand with the tools in front of you...
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[00:43:01] <CHNCguy> Also I would like to hire someone to make me a custom screen set for a 3axis mill, anyone interested? I would just explain what I would like on the screen, and where. They do the rest.
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[01:56:21] <PetefromTn> Ola'
[01:56:36] <jdh> como esta
[01:56:45] <PetefromTn> muy bein y tu?
[01:56:52] <jdh> bitchin'
[01:56:57] <PetefromTn> LOL
[01:57:17] <PetefromTn> I could not get on here for awhile today not sure what the hell was going on?
[01:57:35] <jdh> govt. trying to keep you down.
[01:57:46] <PetefromTn> and the Logger Mah thing keeps saying file not found...
[01:57:51] <PetefromTn> probably...
[01:57:55] <PetefromTn> fuckers..
[01:58:38] <PetefromTn> did I miss anything interresante?
[01:59:49] <PetefromTn> Connor: Ya there man?
[02:02:46] <Tom_itx> tons
[02:02:59] <Tom_itx> you know there are more than one log bot right?
[02:03:00] <PetefromTn> do tell...
[02:03:12] <PetefromTn> yeah I tried both the logger ones..
[02:03:18] <Tom_itx> zlog_
[02:03:19] <zlog_> Tom_itx: Log stored at
http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2014-02-27.html
[02:03:21] <PetefromTn> both say not found..
[02:05:14] <PetefromTn> Looks like the posts I made earlier about the tool table actually did go thru. My quassel was behaving wierd today and I figured I was not actually online. Apparently I was.
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[02:05:34] <PetefromTn> Some folks responded but I waited on my end for a long time and never saw any responses...
[02:06:36] <PetefromTn> Did you see it Tom?
[02:07:16] <Tom_itx> not sure, been kinda busy here today
[02:08:08] <Tom_itx> now i gotta restart the router...
[02:08:09] <Tom_itx> brb
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[02:17:54] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn are you setting the tools with the tool editor or gedit open?
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[02:25:56] <PetefromTn> either..
[02:26:26] <Tom_itx> ?
[02:26:27] <PetefromTn> before I was opening the Geditor and touching off with it open and it worked just fine that way.
[02:26:50] <Tom_itx> not a good idea to set tools with it open
[02:27:03] <PetefromTn> Today I did it with the tool table editor and whether it was open or not did not seem to matter. It still loaded the new tools fine.
[02:27:09] <PetefromTn> why not?
[02:28:06] <Tom_itx> i've had bad results with it open too
[02:28:07] <PetefromTn> besides that is not what the problem was. For some reason with the new setup when I input a new tool or actuall I was changing tool holders today and inputting a new TLO for an existing tool.
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[02:28:35] <PetefromTn> For some reason my tool 1 which I did not modify shows NO TLO just blank.
[02:28:51] <PetefromTn> Not anything in the tool editor nor in Gedit..
[02:29:00] <Tom_itx> we set our tools up differently so i'm not gonna offer advice
[02:29:05] <PetefromTn> I was wondering if that is normal or a change they made..
[02:29:23] <PetefromTn> why?
[02:29:28] <Tom_itx> i haven't had any problems in master either
[02:29:47] <Tom_itx> i'm running 2.5.3, master and the new TP code
[02:30:56] <Tom_itx> [18:20:59] <Tom_itx> i think he has been leaving the tool table open in the editor while touching off
[02:30:56] <Tom_itx> [18:34:48] <JT-Shop> not a good idea
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[02:37:06] <PetefromTn> okay then.
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[02:37:07] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: any feedback on the new TP?
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[02:38:12] <Tom_itx> i honestly haven't run any code on the machine with it yet
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[02:39:01] <Tom_itx> what sort of a setup do you have for testing it?
[02:40:08] <skunkworks> well - i have simulating 99% so far.. but I did get to run one of the emco lathes with it. threading still works :)
[02:40:34] <skunkworks> I have a stepper router I have it built for - but have not found the time to actually run the machine
[02:41:08] <skunkworks> it is not going on the k&t yet... :)
[02:41:23] <Tom_itx> i've got some things that are gonna tie me up til after next week but i'd like to try running some code thru it soon
[02:42:02] <Tom_itx> how do i set the limits in sim so i don't get limit errors?
[02:42:12] <Tom_itx> i think it's reading my sherline setup...
[02:43:49] <Tom_itx> i tried loading the spiral example and maybe a couple others and kept getting limit errors
[02:44:43] <Tom_itx> i didn't check to see the required work area for them though..
[02:46:03] <uw> i think it's tied to your machine file
[02:46:32] <uw> maybe make the travel box larger or at the correct location
[02:46:55] <Tom_itx> i may have to make a different config for it
[02:47:07] <Tom_itx> i'm not gonna change the working ini
[02:49:07] <Tom_itx> looking at the changelogs, he's done quite a bit wiht it
[02:53:00] <skunkworks> tons.. yah - just copy your config and modify it.
[02:53:20] <skunkworks> add the lookahead stuff and increase your min and max limitss
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[02:56:57] <Tom_itx> should i use the defaults you pasted me a while back?
[02:57:08] <Tom_itx> not knowing what they should be..
[02:57:41] <Tom_itx> is the OPTIMIZATION_DEPTH the lookahead buffer?
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[02:58:29] <Tom_itx> and what is the SMOOTHING_THRESHOLD? the allowable deviation?
[02:58:35] <Tom_itx> in what units...
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[03:16:42] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: yes. I am not sure exactly what the smoothing_threshold is.. I think it is what percentage of the segment is gobbled up by blending.. But I have tried both .4 and .75 and don't see a time change. maybe the sound might be different
[03:17:41] <Tom_itx> how big a lookahead have you tried?
[03:18:13] <Tom_itx> and is that number gcode lines or something else?
[03:18:30] <Tom_itx> 50 lines in a surface file is nothing
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[03:30:37] <skunkworks> I have not had more than 50 increase the speed.
[03:30:42] <skunkworks> so far.
[03:31:28] <Tom_itx> is that lines of code or some other buffer size?
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[03:32:30] <skunkworks> segment look ahead I think
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[03:43:39] <Tom_itx> if i put the configs in the bin directory will it look for them there before it sees my normal cofigs?
[03:43:43] <Tom_itx> configs*
[03:43:51] <skunkworks> I thought I found 2 bugs.. (not following path and rfl not running correctly) but It was me.. I had set the G64 tolerence before G21.. rfl was because there was no Z in the whole section of code. so it ran the program where z was setting - not where the program was.
[03:44:08] <skunkworks> it should show both...
[03:45:00] <skunkworks> 'my configureations' are what are in the linuxcnc directory.. Then The 'sample configs' should be in your rip directory.
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[03:49:17] <Tom_itx> do i need to edit the rip-environment file?
[03:50:27] <skunkworks> this look interesting..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08NMlUfdW8Q
[03:50:41] <skunkworks> have to ask garret about that video
[03:50:46] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: what do you mean?
[03:50:54] <Tom_itx> i don't think i do...
[03:51:02] <Tom_itx> looks like the paths are set ok
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[10:41:56] <smellymoo> hey :)... got a robot arm, trying to identify the protocol of the serial data coming from the rotary encoder, google didn't help... properties. 0.5us per square wave, so 2Mbd?, 1 control that only has 1 shaped packet to start, no clock, 1 data line that shows evidence of a gap after each byte.
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[11:10:51] <smellymoo> control line: <0 idle> 1101001000 data line: 11010001001011101101 <8 bits data that changes> 01 <8 bits that change> 01 <8 bits change> <0 idle>
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[12:18:28] <pcw_home> sounds like a standard UART (8 bits 1 start bit (1) 1 stop bit(0))
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[12:21:42] <Jymmm> pcw_home: up early, or up late?
[12:21:52] <pcw_home> Early
[12:21:57] <Jymmm> =)
[12:22:27] <Jymmm> pcw_home:
http://cell.weather.gov/radarhl.php?radar=kmux
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[12:24:24] <pcw_home> Just gentle steady rain here (I thought it would be a bigger storm)
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[12:24:53] <Jymmm> Yeah, last night's was WTH for a little bit.
[12:25:30] <Jymmm> pcw_home: how's your livestock doin?
[12:26:07] <pcw_home> Fine (well wet)
[12:26:30] <Jymmm> Oh, no barn or leanto shelter?
[12:26:57] <pcw_home> They have a shelter but still get wet eventually
[12:27:19] <Jymmm> Harbor Freight has 7x9 blue tarps for $3 with coupon
[12:29:07] <pcw_home> Their shelter is still OK but they wander down the hill to graze when the rain stops but often get caught if it starts raining again
[12:29:27] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Are you familiar with canopy tents? Oh, gotcha.
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[12:30:44] <Jymmm> Not those flimsy "EZ-UP" ones, but the kind that use Metal conduit poles.
[12:31:23] <pcw_home> We may make a simple pole shelter this year
[12:36:36] <skunkworks__> pcw_home, been running the 7i80 'logging' setup a lot. No issues other than 1 random lockup. (I have my foot on the power supply at the time...)
[12:36:43] <Jymmm> pcw_home:
http://www.canopiesandtarps.com/canopy-fittings-flat-roof-fittings.html
[12:37:52] <Jymmm> pcw_home: This might be better suited for you
http://www.canopiesandtarps.com/canopy-fittings-low-peak-fittings.html
[12:38:09] <Jymmm> pcw_home: You can get the pieces at the flea market too.
[12:38:33] <pcw_home> Thats sort of like the vendors use at the flea market
[12:38:45] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Exactly.
[12:39:50] <pcw_home> Interesting we were considering wood/corrugated metal
[12:40:55] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Well, if you are looking for something more perm, you can do that. But this is just something alternative, but I'd use the solver and not blue tarps for longer life.
[12:41:05] <Jymmm> silver*
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[12:41:19] <pcw_home> skunkworks__ : I have random lockups with Preemt-RT on some machines
[12:41:50] <skunkworks__> like I say - only once. This is a 2 core pentium 4
[12:42:10] <pcw_home> We have brown/silver tarps now (but those seem to vary widely in quality)
[12:42:26] <Jymmm> from HD ?
[12:42:49] <pcw_home> I think we got ours from OSH
[12:43:07] <Jymmm> Brown, Green, Blue are all crap.
[12:43:41] <pcw_home> first ones lasted 3+ years current ones I think only 1+
[12:44:21] <Jymmm> Well, maybe lumber structure might be better.
[12:44:21] <pcw_home> (same thickness but first had better UV protection or something)
[12:44:44] <pcw_home> Yeah
[12:44:47] <Jymmm> O think if you get tarps from the same place as the fittings, you would be ok.
[12:44:57] <Jymmm> I would think
[12:45:22] <Jymmm> OR
[12:45:56] <Jymmm> Use the canopy as a frame, and skin with something more durable
[12:46:18] <pcw_home> Thats a good idea
[12:47:53] <pcw_home> skunkworks__ : the one that locks up is a Core Duo 8400 (and what gets broken is X: you can still log in on the terminal screens)
[12:49:16] <pcw_home> Its not linuxcnc/Ethernet either, it will lock up without linuxcnc running (but never does with non RT kernel)
[12:49:24] <Jymmm> http://www.canopiesandtarps.com/super-heavy-duty-tarps.html
[12:50:21] <Jymmm> pcw_home: If it's a tent, you may not need a building permit too
[12:51:27] <pcw_home> Right
[12:52:48] <Tom_itx> i thought it never rains in SO Cal
[12:53:20] <Jymmm> pcw_home: I used one of these to create a 20ft antenna mast
http://www.canopiesandtarps.com/fffcbcc.html
[12:54:17] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: It doesn't, it's just everyone pissing on you at once ;)
[12:55:30] <pcw_home> skunkworks__ the D525 never has an issue (up a couple of months now)
[12:56:43] <pcw_home> thanks Jymmm, if we do replace the tarps it looks like that's the place to get them
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[12:57:36] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Or try your local flea market, or I kow of a retail outlet in San Jose too...
http://www.playafy.com/south-bay-canopy
[12:58:37] <pcw_home> smellymoo: looks like a standard UART (Mitsubishi encoder?)
[13:01:15] <pcw_home> I recommend CRC RevEng if you want to figure out the CRC
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[13:09:34] <pcw_home> To decode I would capture the data with a UART, then print the
[13:09:35] <pcw_home> bytes in binary as you turn the encoder to figure out the fields
[13:09:37] <pcw_home> (CRC is likely the last byte or some bits in the last byte)
[13:10:28] <jthornton> Tom_itx, latest
http://www.gnipsel.com/files/g-code-generator/mill-1.7.02.zip
[13:15:55] <pcw_home> jthornton: 45VAC into capacitor input filter is ~60V and 45vac x 9A is ~400W so
[13:15:56] <pcw_home> that would be the max continuous motor power (divided by the number of motors)
[13:16:36] <pcw_home> might be 48V motors
[13:18:15] <pcw_home> finally got sleepy bbl
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[13:40:46] <sigiiCNC> Hi all
[13:41:01] <sigiiCNC> is here someono who use MMOCCAPY ??
[13:41:08] <sigiiCNC> someone
[13:41:36] <sigiiCNC> i have question about hal pins config :/
[13:42:13] <sigiiCNC> i can write in english/ oraz po polsku ;]
[13:44:36] <skunkworks__> sigiiCNC, I don't know if anyone here is using mmoccapy.. You might get a better responce on the forum
[13:44:53] <skunkworks__> (but ask your real question just in case...)
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[13:58:36] <PetefromTn> mornin'
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[14:03:26] <skunkworks__> it's friday!
[14:03:46] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: Time change, it's now Monday!
[14:04:03] <skunkworks__> crap! is it leep weekend again?
[14:04:06] <skunkworks__> leap
[14:04:34] <Jymmm> Yep, and next time change is back 7 days!
[14:05:05] <humble_sea_bass> WOOOOOO DAYLIGHT SAVINGS
[14:07:29] <PetefromTn> you had me scared there I thought I missed the time change whew...
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[14:10:10] <jdh> you still have a week.
[14:10:15] <jdh> I'm looking forward to it.
[14:11:04] <jdh> Uruguay(?) goes an hour backwards that day.
[14:11:10] <PetefromTn> I'm looking forward to the damn temp changes..
[14:12:54] <skunkworks__> our area is looking at the 5th coldest winter since records in the 1800's
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[14:13:42] <PetefromTn> I have lived here in East Tennessee for over 15 years and this winter has been by far the coldest...
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[14:16:57] <humble_sea_bass> I don't remeber a colder winter since 96
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[15:32:43] <PetefromTn> so anyone got a clue why my tool 1 offset which is zero shows as no offset in the tool table?
[15:33:04] <PetefromTn> I mean there is no number not 0.0 just blank.
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[15:47:12] <JT-Shop> 2 RPC's gone, 1 to go
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[15:48:54] <ReadError> atlanta has been shut down twice so far this winter
[15:48:59] <ReadError> which is rare
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[17:39:27] <CaptHindsight> somebody needs to write a LinuxWeatherController or at least an android app
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[17:43:32] <archivist> hmm weekend ddos script kiddies at it again?
[17:45:14] <Tom_itx> probably
[17:45:25] <Tom_itx> rucas
[17:45:27] <CaptHindsight> nah just M$ trying to get us all to use Skype
[17:45:44] <Tom_itx> google him and you'll see what he is
[17:46:36] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4F8y6nbJE4
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[17:48:56] <IchGuckLive> hi all ;-) and helau to all germans
[17:49:15] <CaptHindsight> Vas ist Los?
[17:49:43] <CaptHindsight> Der Hund ist los, und de katze ist in der keller...... old joke I know
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[17:55:01] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: the problems we were having with eh 5i25/6i25 wasn't the configs it was that you have to upgrade from the LiveCD from 2.4 (or was it 2.3) to 2.5 for all the configs to work
[17:56:58] <IchGuckLive> its better to start over on the CNC pc as loestmichel said yesterday and the wiki shoudt be clear about that
[17:58:25] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: which wiki page? I was going to write very clear one
[17:59:24] <CaptHindsight> maybe I can just edit one that's already there
[17:59:36] <IchGuckLive> i woudt do it on the main update and on the mesa
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[18:01:19] <IchGuckLive> CaptHindsight:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Mesa_Cards
[18:01:39] <CaptHindsight> leaving Chicago they called a "Bag Check" for my carry on that contained a PC, positioners, pneumatic controller, server valves and several feet of tubing and cables that went through xray
[18:01:55] <CaptHindsight> server/several
[18:02:08] <IchGuckLive> snow and cold in the USA no flake on the ground so far here in germany
[18:02:24] <jdh> no snow here
[18:02:26] <CaptHindsight> on the way back they didn't
[18:02:52] <IchGuckLive> 36deg in RIO the carnaval will be naked as every year
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[18:08:42] <CaptHindsight> IchGuckLive: yes, I need to write the Mesa Cards page for Dummies
http://imagebin.org/296354
[18:10:39] <IchGuckLive> most do the jumper failure on the 5i25
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[18:11:22] <CaptHindsight> or missing field power
[18:11:37] <CaptHindsight> on the IO boards
[18:11:53] <archivist> CaptHindsight, book for web development
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[18:51:44] <CaptHindsight> heh, the new Evil LinuxCNC edition, runs from a remote server on a subscription basis
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[18:56:32] <CaptHindsight> aren't some large CNC machine makers already doing similar? I heard that some are going to the point of installing GPS units in the machines so that if they are moved they stop working.
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[18:57:34] <kengu> true
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[18:57:46] <CaptHindsight> http://boingboing.net/2014/01/06/high-end-cnc-machines-cant-b.html
[18:58:56] <CaptHindsight> http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/dmg-mori-gildemeister-maho-cnc/mori-ellison-gyroscope-unlocking-273841/
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[19:11:56] <Connor> PetefromTn: Hey, What's up?
[19:12:26] <PetefromTn> Connor: nothing man how are u?
[19:12:57] <Connor> Okay.. Eye's a little strained.. new prescription, and trying to go back to contacts
[19:13:30] <jdh> plain contacts?
[19:13:44] <Connor> extend ware day/nigh
[19:13:54] <jdh> you < 40?
[19:13:58] <Connor> Yes.
[19:14:00] <Connor> 38
[19:14:32] <jdh> heh... I wore contacts until I was 40
[19:14:35] <Connor> Wore them a few years ago. then switched to my backup glasses when I got poison ivy in my eye.
[19:14:49] <PetefromTn> Connor: Did ya get the shaft ordered?
[19:14:58] <Connor> PetefromTn: Yes.. and my bearings.
[19:15:00] <jdh> well, past that, but it sucked. You can always lift up glasses to read, but not contacts.
[19:15:04] <PetefromTn> sweet..
[19:15:52] <PetefromTn> I spent some time accurizing my toolholder setup yesterday and got the runout on the new holders down to almost nothing LOL...
[19:16:10] <Connor> Cool.
[19:16:32] <PetefromTn> still cannot figure out why the tool 1 offset is not there now..
[19:16:38] <Connor> You ever figure out any more info on the tool changer? Like what kind of motor it has? and if it has a switch to indicate every time a tool is in position ?
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[19:17:27] <PetefromTn> nope I need to. We are redoing the kitchen so have been busy..
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[19:18:05] <PetefromTn> Also designing some new parts to make. Got an order for a custom scope rail here today.
[19:18:06] <Connor> Understood.. might be easier to email that guy and ask him.
[19:18:15] <Connor> nice
[19:18:20] <PetefromTn> No I will get to it man LOL...
[19:18:35] <PetefromTn> I did get the RS232-RS485 adapter here..
[19:21:31] <PetefromTn> We need to finalize the design for the base so I can figure out what kind of material I need to buy.
[19:21:50] <Connor> okay.
[19:22:04] <Connor> in pvt msg
[19:22:12] <PetefromTn> okay.
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[19:38:15] <CaptHindsight> anyone work in an ITAR registered shop?
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[19:45:21] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: ITAR?
[19:45:32] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: Um which "ITAR" are you spekaing of?
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[19:47:11] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations for cnc machines and shops
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[19:47:52] <Jymmm> You need an ATF permit
[19:48:08] <pcw_home> Applies to electronics as well
[19:48:20] <Jymmm> munitions manufcturing permit
[19:48:27] <pcw_home> (ITAR)
[19:48:45] <CaptHindsight> looks like ITAR for the machines used to make parts as well
[19:49:50] <pcw_home> some cabled PCIE devices fall under those restrictions
[19:50:08] <Jymmm> pcw_home: ?
[19:50:32] <pcw_home> (allow building supercomputers)
[19:51:16] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Eh, they can't stop you legally from doing so, besides many are going ASIC anyway
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[19:51:38] <pcw_home> They absolutely can stop us
[19:51:47] <Jymmm> not legally
[19:51:55] <pcw_home> legally
[19:52:01] <Jymmm> how?
[19:52:16] <pcw_home> arrest is a possibility
[19:52:48] <Jymmm> Eh, phil zimmerman went thru all this for us years ago.
[19:53:01] <pcw_home> we cannot ship certain things to certain countries
[19:53:16] <Jymmm> I wouldn't anyway.
[19:54:28] <CaptHindsight> people have gone to jail or be given hefty fines for letting foreign grad students see the wrong work in the lab
[19:54:29] <Jymmm> pcw_home: have you had requests to ship to ITAR restricted countries?
[19:54:42] <pcw_home> Yes
[19:54:48] <Jymmm> pcw_home: lol
[19:55:48] <Jymmm> pcw_home: mostly FPGA based items?
[19:55:53] <pcw_home> Most or maybe all of our stuff now has no restrictions but we have to be (and should be) careful
[19:55:54] <JT-Shop> anyone have an idea how to calculate the F word for inverse time mode?
[19:56:57] <Jymmm> If Fuck Off is future tense, then wouldn't inverse time mode be past tense then it be FUCK ON ?
[19:58:10] <Jymmm> pcw_home: What did you have that was restricted? Or was it a limit was removed?
[19:58:34] <Jymmm> s/limit/restriction/
[19:58:59] <Einar_> I got a file where "G28 W0 U0" is in the beginning. What are W and U? This is for a lathe.
[20:00:00] <humble_sea_bass> secondary coordinate system
[20:00:09] <humble_sea_bass> kind of like I and J
[20:01:08] <andypugh> Einar_: G28 is "go to predfined absolute position". (in the LinuxCNC dialect at least). W and U are the secondary X and Z axes.
[20:01:32] <andypugh> Was the code for a twin-toolpost lathe?
[20:01:41] <humble_sea_bass> The "U" letter address relates to X-axis incremental moves and the "W" letter address relates to Z-axis incremental moves.
[20:02:05] <andypugh> humble_sea_bass: Well, maybe. It would tend to be vaguely machine-dependent.
[20:02:10] <Einar_> It seems this is before a toolchange. Do I have to set these with a G28.1 first?
[20:02:26] <Einar_> It's a single toolchanger (rotary).
[20:02:32] <andypugh> If you don't have a U and W axis then it won't do anything.
[20:03:14] <humble_sea_bass> andypugh: good call.I was not aware that the U/W I/J convention was up for debated, but i should not be surprised
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[20:03:48] <andypugh> I and J typically refer to an offset, but UVW are actual machine axes.
[20:04:30] <andypugh> (W is sometimes used as a tool-length offset along the spindle axis in a 5-axis machine, just to confuse matters)
[20:04:43] <Einar_> OK. I need it to go X+ close to home so the tools sticking out don't hit the bed. Is there an easy way to go to an abs. pos relative to the machine, not the workpiece?
[20:05:13] <andypugh> Einar_: You can put TOIOLCHANGE_AT_G35 or TOOLCHANGE_AT_G28 in the INI
[20:05:22] <andypugh> (from (imperfect) memoy)
[20:05:50] <Jymmm> andypugh: I thought we upgraded you to 640KB?
[20:06:17] <andypugh> No, I still have a wobbly 16k RAM pack.
[20:06:32] <Jymmm> andypugh: Get one of these SIMM Stackers...
http://www.retro-pc.net/musei/ram/simm72/p5.jpg
[20:06:42] <Jymmm> 72pin too
[20:06:53] <andypugh> http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3074/2671527140_fd269593b5.jpg
[20:07:14] <Einar_> I have an excellent memory! But I wish it was not so short.
[20:07:37] <Einar_> Tried to Google "TOOLCHANGE_AT_G28 linuxcnc". Got nothing.
[20:07:59] <humble_sea_bass> Einar_: get one of these cats
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SHARS-MAGNETIC-Z-AXIS-DIAL-SETTER-0004-GAGE-offset-pre-setter-tool-CNC-NEW-/300748405853?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4606007c5d
[20:08:45] <humble_sea_bass> wait that's the answer to a question that wasnt asked
[20:09:17] <Einar_> I'll remember to ask that question later.
[20:09:40] <humble_sea_bass> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini_config.html
[20:10:04] <humble_sea_bass> TOOL_CHANGE_AT_G30 = 1 - The machine is moved to reference point defined by parameters 5181-5186 for G30 if the value is 1. For more information on G30 and Parameters see the G Code Manual.
[20:13:52] <Einar_> Looks like what I want. The params will be remembered when starting Linuxcnc again later, or will I need to do that G30.1 again?
[20:14:31] <andypugh> They are sticky, stored in the vars file.
[20:14:51] <Einar_> Thanks!
[20:15:17] <andypugh> (might be worth checking the vars file to be absolutely sure)
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[20:57:28] <PetefromTn> Damn that champfer cutter leaves a pretty finish hehehe
[21:00:59] <PetefromTn> Well apparetnly the lack of a number in my tool zero offset does not affect anything. It is just still zero. All the tools for this program worked correctly with their TLO's..
[21:09:08] <andypugh> PetefromTn: I saw you sounding happy on cnczone, and I was wondering if you sorted out your tool length?
[21:09:26] <PetefromTn> hey man I am ALWAYS happy ..
[21:09:35] <PetefromTn> But I did sort out the TLO..
[21:10:28] <andypugh> I have got in a tangle once or twice, but it does actually work.
[21:10:30] <PetefromTn> I was just wondering why with the new master we downloaded my tool 1 which has a zero offset and is my touch off tool all the other tools are referenced to does not have anything in the tool table under tool length..
[21:11:42] <andypugh> I guess nothing == 0 (but I would prefer not to assume that)
[21:11:49] <PetefromTn> I have not yet tried to use the cutter comp tho.
[21:11:56] <PetefromTn> yeah me too that is what I was worried about...
[21:12:33] <PetefromTn> I actually tried to manually edit it to 0.0 and save it and reopen the program and it was back to nothing...
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[22:21:41] <MrSunshine_> liquid ring vacuum pumps ... sounds like they are very sensetive to contaminated air? =)
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[23:00:59] <Loetmichel> *HA* got my home CNC running again. It was just a loose coupling at the y-axis. but i had to dismante half of the machine to get to the y stepper. What did i think when constructing that motor into the back bottom of the machine?!?
[23:01:52] <Loetmichel> s/CNC/CNC mill
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[23:03:17] <PetefromTn> Loetmichel What kinda machine is it?
[23:03:33] <Loetmichel> PetefromTn: a very small one
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[23:03:49] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12569
[23:04:30] <PetefromTn> Hey that looks pretty sweet man..
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[23:07:11] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=3037 <- the stepper for y is right in the "corner" of the column
[23:08:24] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12539 <- there it is ;-)
[23:09:34] <PetefromTn> Kinda tucked in there huh...
[23:09:40] <Loetmichel> yeah
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[23:16:01] <Loetmichel> that was short ;-)
[23:17:23] <PetefromTn> LOL just trying out a new chat client and clicked on the wrong thing hehe
[23:18:24] <Loetmichel> ... so now tghat the machine is running i can draw a 2 part heatsink for the antminers u1s and then modify them to 1.1V supply and 350MHz a.k.a 3.6 GH/s ;-)
[23:20:08] <andypugh> Rivett lathe blog is now finsihed up to date:
http://bodgesoc.blogspot.co.uk/2014_01_01_archive.html
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[23:24:15] <FinboySlick> Wow, that's a beautiful little lathe.
[23:25:29] <PetefromTn_> Damn I missed it what lathe?
[23:25:50] <andypugh> It's a Rivett 608
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[23:26:11] <andypugh> PetefromTn:
http://bodgesoc.blogspot.co.uk/2014_01_01_archive.html
[23:26:53] <PetefromTn_> Oh okay I saw that picture already nice little lathe..
[23:27:16] <andypugh> It's not all that little actually. 40" bed length
[23:27:44] <PetefromTn_> Oh wow really it does not look that big in the picture...
[23:27:56] <andypugh> But an almost unique design.
[23:28:01] <FinboySlick> I like the feet. Monolyth pyramids from another time.
[23:28:46] <andypugh> Lots of info on the lathes.co.uk page:
http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivett/page2.html
[23:29:20] <PetefromTn_> I gotta thank you guys for all the help with my machine lately. I was out there making a part with it awhile ago and it just kinda dawned on me how nice it works and how much work it took to get here..
[23:29:47] <andypugh> I may need to learn how to do hand-flaking.
[23:30:33] <PetefromTn_> If it was not for you guys ideas and suggestions I would not have been able to do it.
[23:30:36] <FinboySlick> andypugh: Google just told me you had a skin condition ;)
[23:30:58] <PetefromTn_> Now I need a nice CNC lathe to do it again :p
[23:31:04] <FinboySlick> so I guess I should ask what's 'hand flaking'.
[23:31:51] <FinboySlick> Like chipping flint tools like cavemen?
[23:32:36] <andypugh> FinboySlick: Sure it wasn't the other Andy Pugh? (
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andy-pugh/55/372/275 ) Though her skin condition is "being fairly pretty"
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[23:34:03] <FinboySlick> andypugh: We've seen her already... You can't hide behind that homonym anymore, we know your tricks!
[23:35:03] <FinboySlick> Anyway. I searched 'hand flaking' on google to palliate to my language barrier and only found skin conditions.
[23:35:51] <Tom_itx> andypugh, question is.. are you ever gonna use that lathe?
[23:36:10] <andypugh> Tom_itx: I can't decide :-)
[23:38:04] <Einar_> Andypugh: Put it in the kitchen and you can use it to turn carrots to EU standards.
[23:38:18] <andypugh> FinboySlick: It's the decorative finish that they applied to machine tools back then.
http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivett/img3.gif
[23:38:24] <Tom_itx> or peel apples
[23:38:40] <andypugh> I think i would need to CNC it to peel apples
[23:39:06] <Tom_itx> or oranges... some of them can be a bugger to peel
[23:39:09] <andypugh> I will decide if it is a good lathe when I have rectified the wear in the front dovetail.
[23:39:29] <andypugh> If it is, then it might get an interesting CNC conversion.
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