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[02:15:06] <eric_unterhausen> I guess one shouldn't expect a batch of old coots on the email list not to go off-topic
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[02:15:43] <eric_unterhausen> would be nice if they would mark it OT
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[02:21:00] <eric_unterhausen> toggle switches? we didn't even have wire for our wire-wrap boards
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[02:21:09] <eric_unterhausen> if the pins didn't touch, it didn't go into the circuit
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[02:21:33] <cradek> too bad that happens on the devel list
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[02:21:55] <eric_unterhausen> true
[02:21:57] <Tom_itx> where is owhite from?
[02:22:10] <Tom_itx> was gonna offer some help and he left
[02:22:20] <eric_unterhausen> I got the impression he is in the u.s.
[02:22:30] <eric_unterhausen> forget what the 'o' stands for
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[02:23:42] <eric_unterhausen> I have certain people on the email lists set up so their emails are marked as read
[02:23:59] <eric_unterhausen> I should just send them directly to the trash
[02:24:13] <skunkworks> heh
[02:28:59] <Tom_itx> are they copies of the forum or a separate discussion list?
[02:29:07] <Tom_itx> kinda glad i didn't sign up for those
[02:29:22] <eric_unterhausen> Tom, it's not that bad, it's just that some discussions are pretty annoying
[02:29:36] <Tom_itx> yeah i've been on lists before
[02:29:36] <eric_unterhausen> and the one I'm talking about had a legit beginning
[02:29:44] <Tom_itx> 98% go in the trash unread
[02:29:51] <eric_unterhausen> using gmail, you have a lot of control
[02:29:59] <eric_unterhausen> otherwise I wouldn't bother
[02:37:01] <eric_unterhausen> got an email today that indicated that someone finally read my 2 month old email
[02:37:10] <eric_unterhausen> that they had agreed with
[02:37:19] <eric_unterhausen> now it's all a problem
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[02:51:32] <skunkworks> dad bought another cnc today... this model
http://www.wotol.com/1-matsuura-mc500v2-3/second-hand-machinery/prod_id/86641
[02:51:50] <skunkworks> look - coolant control!
[02:52:31] <cradek> ugh, BT35
[02:52:37] <skunkworks> yah..
[02:52:46] <skunkworks> ebay
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[02:53:06] <cradek> nice fast machine
[02:53:07] <eric_unterhausen> at least you have no competition for the 5 auctions of tooling a year on ebay
[02:53:18] <cradek> that's maybe 10% bigger than the MV Jr
[02:53:35] <cradek> very useful size
[02:54:13] <skunkworks> don't think it is a problem..
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR6.TRC1.A0.Xbt35&_nkw=bt35&_sacat=0&_from=R40
[02:54:20] <skunkworks> just need a bit of patience
[02:54:37] <skunkworks> 6000 rpm will be nice
[02:54:48] <cradek> oh, maybe not then
[02:55:01] <cradek> yeah that's a fine speed even for 1/4" tools
[02:55:38] <eric_unterhausen> i see that bt35 has the same annoying problem as nmtb 30
[02:55:51] <skunkworks> don't know if the control works.... but if it doesn't... Mesa!
[02:55:59] <eric_unterhausen> if you search for anything with a 30 in it, a million auctions for sandpaper come up
[02:56:17] <skunkworks> cradek: was your original control a yasnic(sp)?
[02:56:44] <cradek> yes
[02:57:09] <skunkworks> he is not sure if that is the control or not.. but that seems to be a popular one for that machine
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[03:07:05] <skunkworks> cradek: what is the spindle in the jr? 30?
[03:07:13] <skunkworks> 40?
[03:07:13] <cradek> BT40
[03:07:17] <skunkworks> ah
[03:08:24] <KimK> skunkworks: Congrats! Now you'll have a machine to make (rescue) parts for the K&T. It's good to have a plan B.
[03:09:16] <skunkworks> Hey KimK - how is it going?
[03:09:47] <KimK> Oh, it's always something. You?
[03:11:02] <skunkworks> heh - busy with work and a little girl that runs now.
[03:12:57] <eric_unterhausen> the running part is great
[03:13:14] <KimK> Wow, out of her scooter basket already, nice. Hey, what's the big picture/executive summary of what's going on with the big software rewrite(s), I'm way behind on email list, etc.
[03:13:15] <eric_unterhausen> would be nice if there was some judgment regarding direction
[03:14:00] <skunkworks> heh - she does pretty good... only runs into walls some times.. (looking one way - running another)
[03:15:00] <skunkworks> KimK: I don't know. There is someone that is re-writing the trajectory planner for deeper read ahead.. I have been playing with that..
[03:16:11] <skunkworks> KimK: I guess I have also been playing with the unified build canidates (xenomai, rtpreempt) mainly testing an ethernet mesa card
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[03:18:41] <Tom_itx> skunkworks have you run it on hardware yet?
[03:19:00] <KimK> Were any upgrades ever made to the rtpreemt (if that's what it was?, I remember it was "Seb's debs" at the time) that didn't install quite right for me last time I tried it? Before that, I did get the Xenomai working, but mine is probably outdated by now.
[03:19:45] <KimK> I hope to be getting back to trying the new kernels, etc. soon.
[03:20:39] <eric_unterhausen> rt-preempt is supposed to be much better now
[03:20:58] <eric_unterhausen> and the 64 bit xenomai kernels seem to be stable
[03:21:21] <eric_unterhausen> I didn't try the 64 bit RTAI
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[03:21:54] <KimK> Great, good to hear. I'd like to give them all a try.
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[03:22:41] <skunkworks> Tom_itx: no - I was just flashing an led with gpio... I had it working with xenomai and rtnet - but that is pretty fiddly.. The rtpreempt will be a nice solution because it pretty much supports all network cards.
[03:23:30] <skunkworks> but there a couple of bugs in the driver that need fixing for the 7i80 anyway. a couple others have it working great
[03:23:50] <Tom_itx> i've got it compiled and ready to try
[03:24:06] <Tom_itx> but i was working on my pendant code so it wouldn't burp in 2.6
[03:25:31] <KimK> I am told that the analog adapter (dumb interface?) for the 7i80 has been delayed? Or is it more delayed than that?
[03:27:02] <PCW> analog adapter
[03:27:06] <PCW> ?
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[03:31:06] <KimK> Hi Peter, thanks for jumping in. Yes, wasn't there to be an interface/adapter to allow the 7i80 to work as a stand-alone amplifier, in classic style? And I was told that that adapter has been delayed? Is that true?
[03:35:28] <KimK> Sorry, I've confused everybody, I didn't mean the 7i80, I meant the 8i20. My apologies. Same question though.
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[03:43:49] <eric_unterhausen> I could go for such and adapter
[03:51:32] <KimK> Apparently it was to be called the 8c20 daughter card, according to the 8i20 descriptive text.
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[04:05:27] <pcw_home> We dropped the 8C20, better to send the command over a serial link
[04:08:20] <KimK> OK. Maybe better for LinuxCNC, but maybe not so good for standalone or classic uses. Any chance it might come back later on?
[04:10:59] <KimK> Funny this should come up, Fanuc does a similar thing and I was going to ask if the 8c20 would work there, or if you knew anything about Fanuc's (proprietary of course) serial protocol.
[04:13:55] <KimK> Fanuc does have some kind of adapter/test board for their serial input amps, which I am trying to get ahold of, there might be a solution there.
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[04:17:40] <KimK> Anyway, it would be great if the 8c20 could be modified and/or reprogrammed to do a similar job on a Fanuc serial amp. If I am able to learn anything on the Fanuc serial protocol, I'll forward the info.
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[04:29:27] <RyanS> milled some aluminium of my rather large drill press, 16mm endmill . I think about 2 mm depth of cut. Pretty good seemed to work No problem. Hardly any vibration
[04:30:16] <RyanS> I think it's fine to square stock, but because you lose table alignment. You can't really do accurate work
[04:32:28] <jdh> drill press bearings aren't generally made for side loads
[04:33:15] <RyanS> no, I wouldn't like to try any thing apart from brass aluminium or plastic .
[04:33:16] <eric_unterhausen> and the jacobs taper will let loose, probably fairly soon
[04:33:36] <RyanS> And very shallow cuts
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[04:35:47] <RyanS> didnt misalign the chuk but i think er32 collet chuck would be better
[04:36:00] <jdh> and ACB's
[04:36:48] <RyanS> taper bearings?
[04:37:20] <jdh> or that
[04:39:30] <RyanS> Actually the spindle is mt4 (3 would probably be a more appropriate size) . I wonder if the mt4-3 sleeve to mt3 collet chuck is ok or if I need to get a mt4 collet chuck
[04:40:03] <RyanS> The latter would probably be stronger. I guess
[04:40:04] <jdh> the sleeve would probably induce more runout
[04:40:21] <jdh> or, it might compensate!
[04:40:57] <eric_unterhausen> I didn't realize that extruders were so expensive, I'm going to have to go to the local makerspace and print some parts
[04:41:15] <RyanS> But either way is probably going to be strong enough. Surely
[04:44:13] <RyanS> the vfd is rather handy, speed change wise
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[04:50:24] <tjtr33> i have a rip for joint_axis, how can I get back to Master? ( sorry couldnt google up the answer )
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[05:15:19] <tjtr33> 'git checkout master' fails with 'You have local changes to 'configs/sim/axis/sim_rdelta.hal'; cannot switch branches.' what action is necc before i can switch?
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[06:00:11] <zultron> tjtr33: if you want to keep the changes, commit or stash them; if you want to throw them away, git reset --hard
[06:00:25] <zultron> Whoops, he's gone. :-/
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[06:44:27] <RyanS> eric_unterhausen: ever tried this style of torch for brazing?
http://www.bullfinch-gas.co.uk/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=43&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=3
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[07:54:47] <Deejay> moin
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[13:56:07] <R2E4> Just received my 7i84..... WOW, its small for 32In and 16Out. Ended up costing me $201.00....
[13:56:24] <R2E4> We need a mesa distributor in Canada.....
[13:59:31] <jdh> buy 10, resell
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[13:59:44] <jdh> usually a nice price break at 5?
[14:00:42] <R2E4> I bought one card for 89 and it costed me 201.00 with shipping and taxes. Customs also I believe is included.
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[14:01:48] <R2E4> still, if I bought 10 then it still would only be 120.00 so that would be nice but the problem is I would have to sell for more and people would just go to mesa to get them because they think they would be cheaper.
[14:03:15] <R2E4> I should have bought the 7i80. One card and be done.... 72 IO and its ethernet.
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[14:15:05] <R2E4> I think my plc needs ground to fire the relays on the board which means I wont be able to use the board with the 40 relays on it and will have to build a relay bank.
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[14:15:30] <archivist> build an interface
[14:16:46] <R2E4> relay board which will switch gnd...... or transistors that will switch +
[14:17:12] <archivist> transistors to switch +
[14:17:26] <archivist> bunch of pnp
[14:17:54] <pcw_home> use a 7I72
[14:18:03] <archivist> and some resistors, I assume diodes across coils are already on the relay card
[14:18:18] <R2E4> Need to etch and drill a pcb...... didnt really want to do that but it looks like i will have to.
[14:18:47] <pcw_home> 7I72 = 48 sinking outputs
[14:19:31] <R2E4> Will have to spend time on the plc board. great......I just got a 7i84....
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[14:22:38] <R2E4> pcw_home: the rs422 interface RJ11 to the 7i77, is it standard as the TXA wires to RXA and TXB wires to RXB tie the grounds and add 5v?
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[14:28:06] <pcw_home> the 7I77 manual haa the cat5 colors
[14:28:11] <pcw_home> has
[14:29:25] <R2E4> ok, I got it.
[14:30:15] <pcw_home> 1. take cat 5 cable
[14:30:17] <pcw_home> 2. cut off one end
[14:30:18] <pcw_home> 3. Terminate cut end at screw terminal block using colors in manual
[14:30:33] <R2E4> the 7i84 says a a switching power supply for field power is used. Does it have to be a switching power supply?
[14:31:18] <R2E4> soory, VIN power
[14:31:58] <pcw_home> the 7I84 has a switching supply for its logic you need to supply the 7I84 with 8--32 V for VIN
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[14:32:48] <pcw_home> the 7I84 is basically the same as the I/O section of a 7I77
[14:33:55] <pcw_home> (though it has the feature that it can split the outputs into 2 banks for different output voltages)
[14:34:32] <R2E4> I can use Pncconf? IT will show up. and one last question.... do I ref it as hm2.5i25.0.7i77.0.0.7i84.0.0.input-01?
[14:34:55] <pcw_home> no 7i77 in name
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[14:36:20] <R2E4> ok, cool. There is usually an addres accociated with Rs422. How is that handled with more than one card? the order in which it is placed on the daisey-chain?
[14:36:28] <pcw_home> hm2.5i25.0.7i84.0.0.input-01?
[14:36:52] <pcw_home> I think (halcmd show pin will list all)
[14:37:16] <R2E4> ok, I think I am good to go.
[14:37:25] <pcw_home> they are all on individual links so have no address
[14:38:16] <R2E4> Thanks
[14:38:39] <pcw_home> if you are using master, there's an alternate naming scheme that uses the card serial number
[14:39:07] <pcw_home> (so you can swap serial cables without causing havoc)
[14:42:05] <R2E4> OK, one very last question... Can I creat variable re: 5i25-1 = hm2.5i25.0 and 7i77-1 = 7i77.0.0 and use them like 5i25-1.7i77-1.input-01 ?
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[14:48:59] <jdh> R2:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/and2.9.html
[14:51:43] <pcw_home> Yes you can, take a look at the hm2-servo example hal and ini files. these use aliases to allow the hal files to be more portable
[14:58:45] <R2E4> I remidied my DC spike problem
[15:00:04] <R2E4> I put a 120vac relay tied to AC IN on power supply and ran my dc bus through it, so when Power gets turned off on the power supply, DC get s cut going to the 7i77.
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[17:19:43] <tjtr33> I was able to switch branches from joints_axes back to master by using git add.. then git commit
[17:19:44] <tjtr33> but got a msg saying i was NNN commits behind. Do i 'git pull'?
[17:21:07] <heathmanc> a git pull will get all updates
[17:21:35] <heathmanc> have to be careful if you have made changes to the local files
[17:21:40] <heathmanc> a git pull can overwrite them
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[17:25:56] <tjtr33> i committed the changed files, ( git commit ... ) i think that 'protects' the local files ( ids them as a valid part of the local stash )
[17:26:04] <tjtr33> so is git pull the correct way to solve the NNN commits behind 'problem'?
[17:26:36] <heathmanc> yes
[17:26:39] <tjtr33> thx!
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[17:34:27] <tjtr33> git commit -s -a -m"b4swx2master16jan2014" then git pull gives error: Untracked working tree file 'lib/python/gremlin_view.py' would be overwritten by merge. Aborting
[17:35:21] <tjtr33> i never touched that file ( or nknew it existed )
[17:39:58] <pcw_home> Pretty sure I saw that yesterday
[17:40:42] <heathmanc> Well, good news, I located the typo in the hm2_pci file
[17:40:50] <heathmanc> recompiled 2.5.3
[17:41:02] <R2E4> anyway to make linuxCNC start in fullscreen besides using devilspie?
[17:41:05] <heathmanc> the 4i69 works
[17:41:07] <pcw_home> yes a couple missing 't' s
[17:41:19] <heathmanc> lol, yes
[17:41:44] <heathmanc> now question for the hal incapable... what does it take to get a XML for pcconf
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[17:42:26] <heathmanc> pncconf
[17:42:47] <pcw_home> I think C Morely makes them by hand
[17:43:06] <heathmanc> ouch
[17:43:35] <pcw_home> The original ones were made by the hostmot2 firmware build script
[17:44:05] <pcw_home> And I have a tool that makes them
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[17:44:27] <pcw_home> (by reading and parsing the IDROM from the FPGA)
[17:44:42] <heathmanc> of course you do!
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[17:44:54] <heathmanc> i barely muddle my way through what I have
[17:46:04] <pcw_home> I can make a xml file if i get a chance today
[17:46:46] <heathmanc> That would be greatly appreciated
[17:48:01] <pcw_home> I wish the tool worked under linux (but I think the mesaflash utility will add that cabability eventually)
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[17:50:42] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[17:51:05] <Deejay> hi
[17:51:10] <R2E4> 11 solenoids sound right for a ATC carasel 20 tool type?
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[18:01:51] <archivist> not sure anyone could know, it all depends on how your atc works
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[18:04:20] <tjtr33> begin with , does it use air actuators? that might explain solenoids
[18:06:41] <archivist> there being for example chain, wheel and pocket types with differing actuation
[18:07:25] <archivist> some with position number feedback
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[18:14:09] <R2E4> hydraulic actuators
[18:20:03] <R2E4> Normally I would assume the xyz has to be in a certain position for the tool change.
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[18:24:01] <archivist> or "a safe place" for some machine types (lathe being an example)
[18:26:27] <R2E4> There is an arm that swings out to grab the tool, so if it is not in the correct placeIt woulent grab the tool.
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[18:49:34] <heathmanc> going to have to try ubuntu 8.04, some reason 10.04 just randomly reboots on me
[18:50:00] <heathmanc> have tried installing from livecd multiple times
[18:50:04] <heathmanc> changed ram modules
[18:51:15] <heathmanc> it's a core 2 duo chip, 2.26 P8400
[18:51:27] <heathmanc> only thing i haven't tried is limiting it to 1 core
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[18:52:16] <CaptHindsight> is it stable with any OS on it?
[18:52:41] <CaptHindsight> how do you know it is not a hardware problem?
[18:52:43] <heathmanc> doesn't seem to have an issue with XP
[18:52:55] <pcw_home> That should be OK with 10.04
[18:53:13] <heathmanc> it's an adlink readyboard 850 single board computer
[18:53:34] <heathmanc> hasn't rebooted while running linuxcnc
[18:53:41] <heathmanc> but has many other times
[18:54:10] <heathmanc> have tried 1gb, 4gb ram.. running from CF card, SATA drive
[18:54:32] <pcw_home> none of that should matter
[18:54:39] <heathmanc> 3 power supplies
[18:55:17] <CaptHindsight> if it "hasn't rebooted while running Linuxcnc", what did make it reboot "many other times"?
[18:55:41] <heathmanc> oh, compiling linuxcnc, browsing the web
[18:55:57] <heathmanc> and choosing a config when first starting linuxcnc, instead of pointing it at one
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[18:56:50] <heathmanc> the latency test is great, never above about 4200
[18:56:57] <CaptHindsight> how can it not reboot while running Linuxcnc and then also reboot when running Linuxcnc? What are you really trying to say?
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[18:57:50] <heathmanc> If i open up linuxcnc without a config, it pops up a screen to choose one, it has rebooted on me at that point
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[18:58:47] <heathmanc> the very moment when I click ok is when it has happened
[18:58:56] <heathmanc> this isn't related to linuxcnc as it does it other times
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[19:00:01] <IchGuckLive> heathmanc: did you plug and unplag a usb divice while latency testing try this
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[19:01:06] <heathmanc> I haven't, but I'm not concerned with the latency at this point, the rebooting is an issue
[19:01:35] <heathmanc> my other machine with the 5i20 in it is rock solid
[19:01:44] <IchGuckLive> i think there is a .ko file in the memory that prevents rebooting
[19:01:59] <heathmanc> it's not really a reboot, it is a reset
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[19:02:17] <heathmanc> screen blanks, bios post comes up
[19:04:20] <IchGuckLive> maybe its te Heat ;-)
[19:05:30] <CaptHindsight> time to start logging and check the logs
[19:06:46] <heathmanc> cpu never gets above 105F, system temp of 110F
[19:06:50] <IchGuckLive> heathmanc: so why woudt you like to rset when all is ok
[19:07:20] <IchGuckLive> or even reboot once every week
[19:07:23] <heathmanc> I don't understand what you're asking. It is random, just resets on it's own
[19:07:52] <IchGuckLive> oh then the board is the issue
[19:08:20] <IchGuckLive> reset only appears when ground hits the supply
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[19:08:51] <IchGuckLive> or all power on the board goes beond 500mA
[19:09:57] <IchGuckLive> dont use boardpower for the mashine use external
[19:10:07] <heathmanc> not so sure, i beat the crap out of it with windows xp for several hours earlier with no issue
[19:10:20] <heathmanc> it is external power, an allen bradley 12v supply
[19:11:01] <IchGuckLive> how shoudt the livecd reset the board
[19:12:34] <IchGuckLive> let run glxgears on 3 terminals without any other Gui and see if it happens again
[19:12:44] <CaptHindsight> checksum the Linuxnc ISO, check the kernel and other logs, run memtest, underclock etc etc
[19:12:51] <heathmanc> it has
[19:12:59] <heathmanc> can't underclock in the bios
[19:13:15] <heathmanc> haven't found anything in the logs
[19:13:18] <IchGuckLive> single CPU
[19:13:20] <heathmanc> haven't run a checksum
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[19:14:20] <IchGuckLive> you need to get only 1 core otherwise the 2nd will confuse the kernal
[19:15:27] <CaptHindsight> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash
[19:16:40] <heathmanc> memtest was good, ran for 3.5 horus
[19:16:43] <heathmanc> hours even..
[19:16:55] <heathmanc> i can't make the reset happen, it is random
[19:17:24] <IchGuckLive> is multicore deactivated in bios
[19:17:46] <IchGuckLive> multitasking
[19:17:55] <IchGuckLive> also no sound
[19:17:57] <CaptHindsight> fun
[19:17:57] <CaptHindsight> try all the usual, swap parts
[19:18:09] <heathmanc> it's an industrial board, no sound
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[19:18:16] <heathmanc> i have swapped as much as I can at this point
[19:18:34] <heathmanc> going to play with it some more
[19:18:57] <IchGuckLive> im off BYE
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[19:20:28] <R2E4> filter for removing moisture in air line, has a drain on bottom. Air is escaping. IS the complete filter scrap or how does this air filter work? Anyone familiar with these?
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[19:24:05] <mozmck> Sounds like a water separator? Did you tighten the drain? I think there are all different constructions of them.
[19:24:53] <mozmck> You might have a bad gasket or any number of things I guess.
[19:27:04] <R2E4> http://irmtl.com/LinuxCNC/7i77/brfilter.jpg
[19:27:24] <R2E4> air is coming out of the bottom drain tube.
[19:28:07] <Jymmm> R2E4: is the valve cock closed?
[19:28:11] <mozmck> Your picture is rather bad - there should be some sort of valve for the drain.
[19:28:16] <R2E4> yeah I know what you mean, usually that is a drain with a valve to close. Its used to drain the water from the glase.
[19:28:57] <zeeshan|2> that valve i think is held closed under pressure
[19:29:29] <zeeshan|2> so when you drain your air tank and pressure drops i think below 15psi, it opens and releases storedwater
[19:30:01] <zeeshan|2> if the valve is rusted/blocked or spring failed itll permanently stay open
[19:30:24] <R2E4> http://irmtl.com/LinuxCNC/7i77/brfilter2.jpg
[19:31:08] <R2E4> thats probably the problem. I have to wait till I get there. My accociate is trying to run the Bridgeport and no air to set the brake on the spindle....haha
[19:31:13] <mozmck> that could be - I haven't seen one like that but it would make sense. I wouldn't scrap the thing for sure though. Either find parts to fix the pressure valve or put a manual one on.
[19:31:36] <R2E4> That fileter is from 1985, so guess shouldnt complain about it breaking now.
[19:33:35] <heathmanc> so, have only one core going now, 2 glxgears, a 4gb download
[19:33:44] <heathmanc> and some gcode simulating
[19:33:55] <heathmanc> and the latency test open.. so far max of 4177
[19:33:58] <heathmanc> and no reboot
[19:34:16] <R2E4> damn, what kind of motherboard?
[19:34:21] <R2E4> 4177 is good
[19:34:31] <heathmanc> it is an adlink industrial single board computer
[19:34:58] <R2E4> +
[19:36:01] <R2E4> what zeeshan2 said I think is the problem. I told my accociate to block the drain tube and it should work. I will look at it when I get there tonight. I have a brand new one in a box at the shop.
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[19:48:40] <heathmanc> still going, maybe disabling the other core is the answer
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[20:06:19] <CaptHindsight> kernel boot parameter to GRUB: "isolcpus=1"
[20:06:54] <CaptHindsight> you shouldn't have to disable a core in the BIOS
[20:13:38] <heathmanc> didn't work anyhow
[20:13:50] <heathmanc> it just reset about 5 minutes ago
[20:14:04] <heathmanc> but, I am leaning towards a power supply
[20:14:19] <heathmanc> just looked at the 3 that I used, 12v rail only puts out about 5 amps
[20:14:33] <heathmanc> getting ready to hack an atx supply
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[20:17:04] <R2E4> where's xf86Config
[20:17:09] <R2E4> somebody moved it
[20:21:09] <heathmanc> lol
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[20:21:52] <R2E4> When did they do that? lol
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[20:23:12] <heathmanc> should be an issue with the power supplies as the board at 100% only draws 33 watts
[20:23:26] <heathmanc> no drives attached, just a CF card
[20:23:34] <heathmanc> but we'll see.. got a big supply on it now
[20:23:43] <heathmanc> running 4 glxgears
[20:23:48] <heathmanc> a gb download
[20:23:51] <heathmanc> 4gb
[20:23:58] <heathmanc> and the latency test
[20:24:10] <heathmanc> if this thing resets, there is a chance I will chuck it out into the cold night
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[20:27:36] <R2E4> IS it nite there?
[20:28:27] <pcw_home> other things to try are different video drivers (and maybe 12.04)
[20:31:36] <heathmanc> I am in england, 8:30pm
[20:31:54] <heathmanc> i may give 12.04 a go if this doesn't work
[20:31:58] <heathmanc> so far so good
[20:32:09] <heathmanc> opened a 5th glxgears
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[20:32:44] <heathmanc> the board uses an intel video card, never had an issue with ubuntu and intel graphics
[20:33:27] <R2E4> Mine has a nvidia in it and the gui locks up, linux is still running though.
[20:33:50] <heathmanc> been there, done that
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[20:47:15] <uw> german humor
http://geekandpoke.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341d3df553ef0120a8b86eae970b-800wi
[20:47:20] <uw> spoiler: it's not funny
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[20:50:41] <CaptHindsight> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTWFWh1x-yo Viper Pro SLA I haven't looked at these in a while. They use Canon Galvos
[20:51:44] <CaptHindsight> I'm surprised by slowly the wiper moves
[20:53:21] <uw> excellent montage music
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[20:55:36] <heathmanc_> Still going strong
[20:55:57] <CaptHindsight> fickle supply?
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[20:56:07] <heathmanc_> getting ready to recompile and see what happens. twice when it has reset, it has corrupted my CF card
[20:56:16] <heathmanc_> Seems that way, got a big atx on it now
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[20:57:32] <CaptHindsight> try running Stress as well
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/stress.1.html
[20:57:42] <heathmanc_> was trying to get away from using it
[20:58:08] <CaptHindsight> but a nice big compile should do it
[20:58:35] <heathmanc_> I will try the stress after these dependencies get done downloading
[20:58:45] <heathmanc_> I live in the sticks out here and the internet is nice and slow
[21:02:57] <heathmanc_> now if i could just get my serial touchscreen to work
[21:06:15] <heathmanc_> PCW: How do we go about getting that typo fixed for the future?
[21:16:04] <PCW> needs to get pushed, micges can do it when he has time
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[21:29:03] <micges> PCW: what's about?
[21:33:53] <micges> heathmanc_: hi
[21:34:02] <micges> heathmanc_: what typo?
[21:38:07] <heathmanc_> in the hm2_pci file for the 4i69 card
[21:41:00] <heathmanc_> [ 2964.623920] hm2/hm2_4i69.0: board has FPGA '6slx25fg256', but the firmware in hm2/4i69/SV12.BIT is for FPGA '6slx25ftg256'
[21:41:14] <heathmanc_> it is missing the "t" in two places
[21:41:30] <heathmanc_> on two lines I should say
[21:42:27] <micges> ah
[21:42:37] <micges> 2.5.3?
[21:43:41] <heathmanc_> yes
[21:44:46] <micges> ok
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[21:47:25] <PCW> micges: 3 week uptime for hm2_eth
[21:48:06] <micges> that's very good, still looking for wd bug
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[21:49:18] <PCW> yeah its funny that its config dependent
[21:49:30] <PCW> do you have a config that fails?
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[21:52:43] <micges> PCW: I think not, send me
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[21:53:51] <PCW> Do you have a 7I80 HD?
[21:54:17] <micges> yes
[21:54:38] <PCW> I think the simple ones fail (svst4_8 for example)
[21:55:35] <PCW> (same problem samco had)
[21:56:06] <PCW> fancy ones like 7i76e with sserial worked ok
[21:57:12] <micges> that;s clue, I've mostly tested driver on 7i80DB
[21:58:10] <PCW> and most 7i80db configs are fancy
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[22:06:51] <heathmanc_> here's goes nothing, compiling take 3, no whammies
[22:14:57] <Deejay> gn8
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[22:18:39] <heathmanc_> well, it works.
[22:19:07] <heathmanc_> now to sort out the pin mess.
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[22:23:44] <heathmanc_> would have been so much easier to start with a 4i65
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[22:47:15] <CaptHindsight> PCW: looks like Allwinner is making their own boards now as well
http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/01/10/a80-optimusboard-features-allwinner-octa-core-big-little-soc/#comment-147660
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[22:50:11] <CaptHindsight> http://www.1pad.cn/38120/
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[22:51:05] <andypugh> I am still liking that the Udoo has 72 holes you can poke a wire in and see/write in software.
[22:57:25] <CaptHindsight> the imx6 price difference between the single and quad core is only ~$10 yet Udoo decided on charging $35 more (with a SATA conn)
[22:57:57] <CaptHindsight> oh plus a wifi
[22:59:02] <CaptHindsight> http://shop.udoo.org/usa/?___from_store=usa&popup=no
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[23:18:25] <CaptHindsight> http://udoo.org/download/files/pinout/Udoo_pinout_diagram.pdf http://udoo.org/download/files/pinout/UDOO_pinout_alternate_table.pdf they did bring out SPI to the GPIO connectors
[23:18:51] <CaptHindsight> http://udoo.org/download/files/schematics/UDOO_REV_D_schematics.pdf
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[23:47:46] <andypugh> The lathe stand is nearly done :-)
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/FJ3rEEoGjIQUciYw0YfNg9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
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[23:52:48] <Tom_itx> ooo isn't that pretty
[23:53:14] <Tom_itx> did you oil it or urethane it?
[23:53:19] <andypugh> Shellac
[23:53:50] <jdh> won't you get chips all over the carpet?
[23:54:15] <andypugh> I intend to swap the carpet for laminate
[23:54:33] <andypugh> (The carpet is dead)
[23:55:05] <andypugh> The finish is the "Marie Curie" finish (French Polish)
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[23:57:05] <JT-Shop> andypugh, beautiful work man
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[23:58:01] <Tom_itx> how many hours you got in that now?
[23:58:30] <andypugh> I hate to think. Hundreds.
[23:58:39] <Tom_itx> it's hiding a hole in the wall
[23:58:56] <andypugh> Yeah, I ripped out the fireplace :-)
[23:59:00] <Tom_itx> heh
[23:59:12] <andypugh> (only a frontage with an electric fake-fire in it)
[23:59:27] <andypugh> Actually, it is probably about 100 hours.
[23:59:55] <andypugh> 8 full days over christmas and evenings since.
