#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-12-24

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[00:00:24] <Tom_itx> new for 2.6
[00:04:17] <JT-Shop> I don't even see hal manual tool change in the docs yet LOL
[00:05:27] <Tom_itx> it's a script file
[00:05:38] <Tom_itx> modded for this
[00:05:45] <Tom_itx> added to the source
[00:06:24] <JT-Shop> I see a bit of text in the Axis chapter on manual tool change
[00:06:36] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/283555 the puller broke before the arm came loose
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[00:07:44] <atom1> http://paste.debian.net/72405
[00:07:48] <atom1> an example of it
[00:08:43] <JT-Shop> yea, I see the pin but don't see any description of hal manual tool change other than in the Axis chapter
[00:09:19] <JT-Shop> it should be in the Commands and userspace components man pages
[00:09:25] <Tom_itx> that may be where i found it... i don't remember now
[00:09:39] <Tom_itx> i did find an example of use somewhere
[00:09:51] <Tom_itx> excluding the line
[00:12:07] <atom1> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.4/html/hal_hal-examples.html
[00:12:19] <atom1> one place
[00:12:48] <atom1> i would add comments about it there
[00:13:17] <atom1> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Tool_Changes
[00:13:20] <atom1> older docs
[00:14:42] <CHNCguy> night yall :D
[00:15:29] <atom1> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.4/html/hal_hal-examples.html
[00:15:35] <atom1> the 2.4 docs for it
[00:16:18] <jthornton> got it
[00:16:58] <Tom_itx> 2.5 is probably there somewhere..
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[00:18:48] <jthornton> so hal_manualtoolchange.change_button does the same thing as pressing OK on the dialog?
[00:19:13] <Tom_itx> yes
[00:19:47] <Tom_itx> makes it rather handy for a pendant
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[00:21:22] <jthornton> I can imagine it does
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[00:23:30] <jthornton> in about an hour it should show up here http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/hal/hal-examples.html
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[00:27:29] <Tom_itx> thanks
[00:27:52] <Tom_itx> so what's new in 1.5.8?
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[00:30:45] <jthornton> took out the debugging prints and fixed a few errors and added feed to the drill routines
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[01:49:10] <fxp> hello,could I do the CNC progromming by using c++?
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[01:55:15] <jdh> you can write c++ code to generate g-code. Might not be much of a transform.
[01:57:34] <fxp> and with our linuxCNC?
[01:57:43] <fxp> thanks
[01:58:08] <jdh> you can generate code that linuxcnc likes.
[01:58:50] <jdh> doing moves directly would seem to lose the benefit of most of linuxcnc
[01:59:44] <fxp> and I want to programming directly on the LinuxCNC OS
[01:59:55] <fxp> by the c++ language
[02:02:08] <jdh> what do you see the interface between your code and linuxcnc doing?
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[02:13:29] <Tom_itx> seems like alot of work just to get some gcode
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[02:39:31] <Tom_itx> is the status window suppose to auto scroll?
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[03:26:50] <Tom_itx> quiet night
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[03:37:59] <ChuangTzu> silent night
[03:38:04] <ChuangTzu> :S
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[07:57:09] <Deejay> moin
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[11:10:37] <Jymmm> Well, if you are ever in need for a 1.25" hole punch die for $13, Try Ikea... http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/28512100/
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[16:18:29] <CaptHindsight> toasty -6 F (-21C) today
[16:21:53] <CaptHindsight> is everyone busy machining their last minute gifts?
[16:22:14] <archivist> doing bugger all
[16:23:12] <archivist> gift free zone as home alone
[16:24:10] <CaptHindsight> out the door here before the metal supplier closes
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[17:11:46] <IchGuckLive> hi all and merry Xmas all over the world
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[19:10:30] <IchGuckLive> end of EVA#2 in space im off to the santa presents delivery
[19:11:02] <IchGuckLive> http://www.noradsanta.org/ santa is nearing at 1024km/h
[19:11:19] <IchGuckLive> BYE
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[19:12:14] <sirdancealo2> 1 mm/h?
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[19:48:28] <Tom_itx> pcw_home do you use standard leds on the 7i71 outputs?
[19:49:32] <Tom_itx> this board has one out, i was gonna swap out
[19:52:01] <pcw_home> Any should do
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[19:55:01] <pcw_home> (I did say they were blems, they may in fact be hand soldered protos)
[19:55:39] <Tom_itx> doesn't look hand soldered but who knows
[19:55:40] <Tom_itx> they did replace an led with a blue one
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[19:59:43] <Deejay> re
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[20:57:31] <jdh> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/tls/4253253203.html
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[21:38:46] <eric_unterhausen> if it weren't for ping timeouts, there would be no activity at all
[21:39:12] <eric_unterhausen> nothing wrong with that
[21:41:06] <eric_unterhausen> anyone ever seen a bridgeport right angle milling attachment for nmtb 30?
[21:43:16] <toastyde1th> nope
[21:47:19] <eric_unterhausen> I thought the r8 milling attachments were expensive
[21:47:33] <eric_unterhausen> the ones for cat 40/50 are 10k
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[21:58:07] <JT-Shop> I wonder if there is any drawbacks using a 0.05% solution of sodium nitrite to soak the inside of my tractor gas tank to remove the rust?
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[22:01:30] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: it absorbs water
[22:01:42] <JT-Shop> it?
[22:01:52] <CaptHindsight> or highly soluble based on how you look at it
[22:02:10] <CaptHindsight> Sodium nitrite
[22:02:51] <JT-Shop> I just noticed how it keeps my plasma water table rust free and even removed some rust when I built the tank
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[22:03:21] <NickParker|2> Hi folks. I'm on winter break and college apps are done - it's finally time to get back to milling.
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[22:03:51] <NickParker> Current status is that I can upload firmware to my 6i25 without bricking it, but i seem to only be able to set dmesg to pure GPIO
[22:04:22] <JT-Shop> I guess I could use baking soda and DC to clean it too
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[22:04:39] <CaptHindsight> 2 pitman arm pullers and the oxy-propane torch and it's apart!
[22:05:09] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/283555
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[22:06:13] <CaptHindsight> Mapp gas torch just wouldn't get it hot enough
[22:07:28] <eric_unterhausen> what is that?
[22:07:36] <NickParker> mm just kidding seems i still do brick it. back to fiddling with ISE
[22:07:45] <eric_unterhausen> looks like the gear puller might have seen better days
[22:07:48] <JT-Shop> what is that pitman arm from?
[22:07:57] <CaptHindsight> heh, broke two of them
[22:08:06] <CaptHindsight> Land Cruiser
[22:08:10] <JT-Shop> if it was my gear puller I'd put it in the Mccoys bucket
[22:08:53] <eric_unterhausen> reminds me of something I did once. Got it apart and then someone showed me how it unscrewed
[22:09:02] <CaptHindsight> they look the same but some brands don't harden the pullers
[22:10:09] <eric_unterhausen> how do the cat right angle heads work? They all look like there is a part missing
[22:11:19] <eric_unterhausen> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TECNARA-RIGHT-ANGLE-MILLING-HEAD-ATTACHMENT-CAT-50-/331074492490?pt=BI_Tool_Work_Holding&hash=item4d1593d84a
[22:11:38] <eric_unterhausen> like that, is the anti-rotation attachment standard?
[22:12:17] <CaptHindsight> it's not shown
[22:12:26] <eric_unterhausen> none of them come with one
[22:12:31] <eric_unterhausen> from what I can tell
[22:12:50] <eric_unterhausen> seems like the prices would be fantasy in that case
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[22:20:08] <eric_unterhausen> I guess the call for a right angle attachment on a CNC would be minimal
[22:22:04] <CaptHindsight> wow everything just closed around here except for the liquor store :)
[22:24:06] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: how is your plasma table working out?
[22:25:01] <CaptHindsight> I'm not sure what to build next. Considering a router for sheet metal, laser or plasma cutter
[22:25:40] <JT-Shop> works good, I'd make a few minor changes if I built another one
[22:25:55] <JT-Shop> I've been using it for a few years now
[22:26:57] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e70jdiDm7yc
[22:27:15] <CaptHindsight> what are you using for the plasma?
[22:27:17] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knf3cPrZPrk
[22:27:28] <JT-Shop> Hypertherm 1250
[22:27:41] <JT-Shop> I think they have a new model number system now
[22:28:34] <CaptHindsight> I need something big enough for 4 x 8 sheets
[22:29:14] <JT-Shop> I can cut 4 x 8 sheets but I can only cut 4 x 3 then shift the sheet, saves tons of floor space for me
[22:30:42] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/plasma.xhtml
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[22:34:20] <CaptHindsight> http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/z-axis-02.xhtml
[22:35:27] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: how thick can that cut in steel?
[22:37:32] <JT-Shop> the 1250 can cut 1/2" pretty cleanly
[22:37:40] <CaptHindsight> nice
[22:38:18] <NickParker> This license error when I launch SDK isn't causing my issue is it? http://pastebin.com/vDJ9JiiL
[22:39:11] <JT-Shop> CaptHindsight, so you think putting a solution of water and sodium nitrite in my gas tank will cause a problem?
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[22:40:05] <CaptHindsight> JT-Shop: not for the tank, I'm just wondering what else might be in there
[22:40:17] <CaptHindsight> the level indicator, pump, etc
[22:40:29] <JT-Shop> you mean like residue and junk?
[22:40:40] <JT-Shop> oh, this is a 1956 Ferguson F40 tractor
[22:40:51] <JT-Shop> just a tank
[22:41:08] <CaptHindsight> heh, then I wouldn't be concerned
[22:43:13] <JT-Shop> yea, I just want to clean it out while it is off the tractor as I get a bit of rust in the fuel bowl after a while
[22:45:44] <CaptHindsight> Borax is another DIY rust remover
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[22:47:21] <CaptHindsight> borax and vinegar
[22:48:00] <JT-Shop> yea, I have a 20 gallon tank of sodium carbonate to clean smaller parts
[22:51:54] <tjb1> Hypertherm <3
[22:52:16] <JT-Shop> ?
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[23:10:27] <JT-Shop> apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130424.html
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