#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-05-13

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[00:01:05] <L84Supper> 2" X 2" T-SLOTTED EXTRUSION 242" BAR $137.90 ea
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[00:03:53] <tjtr33> L84Supper, is this any use? http://www.onlinemetalsupply.com/aluminum/aluminum-rectangle-tube/6063-t52-aluminum-square-tube-2-x-2-x-1-8-wall-x-60-long.html
[00:04:34] <tjtr33> do you always need tslot or do you find where the bolts go after 1st setup :)
[00:04:52] <L84Supper> no, we move to shapes as soon as we can
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[00:05:26] <L84Supper> sometimes products have a little t-slot left
[00:06:16] <L84Supper> process machines tend to use it lot since you never know what add-ons they will have later
[00:07:57] <L84Supper> if you buy a truckload the price drops close to that of shapes
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[00:17:35] <L84Supper> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11589 Arduino Due $50, the beaglebone black is only $45
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[00:26:27] <r00t4rd3d> https://www.miniand.com/products/Cubieboard%20Developer%20Board
[00:31:04] <L84Supper> yeah the a10 is only $6
[00:32:26] <L84Supper> nobody has been able to the get the A10 IO's to respond as quickly as the am3359 PRU
[00:58:07] <Tom_itx> tslot good for routers and plasma etc not so much for mills?
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[00:58:55] <r00t4rd3d> i could make a sweet mill out of tslot
[00:59:10] <Tom_itx> not very heavy duty though
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[01:00:44] <r00t4rd3d> use cncrp linear carriages and top the tslot with steel flat bar, then it is
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[01:17:32] <ssi> I was gonna go that route but the damn cold roll flatbar is expensive :P
[01:18:11] <L84Supper> encase the t-slot in polymerized concrete
[01:19:02] <ssi> Tom_itx: depends what you're milling
[01:19:19] <ssi> I think if you built beefy, you could probably make a machine out of tslot that'd cut aluminum reasonably well
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[01:29:50] <Tom_itx> you're thinking gantry style?
[01:34:35] <Valen> you know real linear rails aren't that expensive
[01:34:42] <Valen> i mean they are spendy
[01:34:45] <Valen> but not omg
[01:36:30] <Tom_itx> you don't mean linear steppers?
[01:36:39] <Valen> no, those are OMG ;->
[01:36:40] <Tom_itx> just linear slides
[01:36:42] <Valen> I'd love some
[01:36:44] <Tom_itx> yeah
[01:36:46] <Tom_itx> me too
[01:36:54] <Valen> I was thinking about making some
[01:37:17] <Valen> they need to be huge though to get the torque
[01:37:18] <Tom_itx> i found a single linear slide in the mud rusted at the salvage place
[01:37:20] <Tom_itx> nearly cried
[01:37:23] <Valen> :-<
[01:38:02] <Tom_itx> you're not coming across the pond next month are you?
[01:38:30] <Tom_itx> to the fest
[01:38:34] <Valen> heh no
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[01:38:46] <Valen> better things to spend $2000 in airfare on ;->
[01:38:53] <Tom_itx> no doubt
[01:39:00] <Tom_itx> i'll stop by since i live here
[01:39:08] <Tom_itx> but probably wouldn't travel for it
[01:39:09] <Valen> handy
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[01:39:30] <Tom_itx> always interesting meeting new ppl
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[01:55:23] <PetefromTn> ..
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[01:57:19] <Connor> PetefromTn: .. ??
[01:57:30] <PetefromTn> what?
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[01:57:44] <Connor> (09:55:23 PM) PetefromTn: ..
[01:57:53] <Connor> ?? What's that?
[01:58:00] <PetefromTn> whats what?
[01:58:08] <PetefromTn> I don't understand..
[01:58:26] <PetefromTn> how ya doing?
[01:58:30] <Connor> I dunno.. You just sent out ".." for a message. :)
[01:58:39] <PetefromTn> to you?
[01:59:00] <Connor> To everyone.
[01:59:08] <PetefromTn> I always do that to ensure I am properly logged on for my own sake.
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[01:59:49] <PetefromTn> In fact since I just got my Android phone working with the chat I just had to identify with NickServ on here which is strange..
[01:59:50] <Connor> Have my PDB almost done. Need to make two more parts.. Not happy with the finish of my endmill.. nor am I happy with the tolerances.. It'll work..
[02:00:03] <Connor> That's standard..
[02:00:12] <Connor> Helps keep people from using your alias.
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[02:02:46] <Connor> Looks like I'm going to have to get a slightly longer belt.. I think the fan on my treadmill motor is going to rub against the top of the air cylinder.. no biggie.
[02:03:55] <Connor> I'll go from a 41, to a 42 tooth belt.. gain .375"
[02:03:58] <Connor> which is more than enough
[02:05:52] <PetefromTn> Connor: sorry man had to attend to something. Sounds good that you are getting it done.
[02:07:09] <PetefromTn> I have been trying to get this part ready to machine all day since I have no idea how tool setup works with linuxCNC and then I realized that I needed to change the direction of the part as it sits on my machine table since I need to use a substrate aluminum block and the ones I have here are odd sizes
[02:07:49] <PetefromTn> I finally ordered one of those cheaper chinese CNC style 6" vises from Shars earlier as well as a decent edge finder.
[02:08:34] <jdh> does decent mean manual or electronic?
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[02:10:01] <PetefromTn> this one is electronic...just a cheapie for now. I blew all my cash on this retrofit and I need to get some paying work before I can dump more money LOL
[02:10:23] <Tom_itx> did you get your tools set?
[02:11:00] <PetefromTn> not yet...Just got them all loaded up
[02:11:12] <Tom_itx> http://www.gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/index.html
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[02:11:21] <PetefromTn> Yeah I know I am slow but my wife and kids have been sick all day so I have not messed with it full tme
[02:11:38] <Tom_itx> read the tool touchoff one
[02:11:51] <Connor> PetefromTn: Which one? CNC style, or normal Milling vise?
[02:12:05] <PetefromTn> CNC style...
[02:12:15] <Connor> I broke all my operations down into separate g-code files.. so that I could Touch off each drill bit..
[02:12:18] <Connor> What a PITA
[02:12:36] <PetefromTn> Tom_itx: Thanks man I am not a complete newbie and have run CNCs before quite a bit.
[02:12:53] <PetefromTn> but I do not know the procedures for tool table setup in linuxCNC etc.
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[02:13:09] <PetefromTn> why would you have to do that?
[02:13:24] <PetefromTn> doesn't linuxCNC just ask you to change tools?
[02:13:26] <Connor> PetefromTn: That link he sent has info on setting up the tool table offsets.
[02:13:33] <Tom_itx> i'm not a noobie either but it was good to know
[02:13:36] <Connor> Yes, but, you can't touch off.
[02:13:46] <Connor> with out stopping and restarting the program.
[02:13:49] <PetefromTn> why would you have to?
[02:14:02] <Tom_itx> it allows you to preset your tool length offsets like you would normally do on any cnc program with multiple tools
[02:14:04] <Connor> Because I only have 1 drill chuck...
[02:14:09] <PetefromTn> can't you just touch off all your tools before you start the program?
[02:14:28] <Tom_itx> that's what i just linked you
[02:14:38] <Connor> Yes, but, I had a milling op, center drill op, and 2 drill ops.
[02:14:42] <Tom_itx> it tells you how to go about doing that
[02:14:42] <PetefromTn> Okay I did not read it that good yet.
[02:14:52] <PetefromTn> Okay thanks man.
[02:14:57] <Tom_itx> that's exactly why i linked it
[02:15:12] <PetefromTn> can't you stick a drill or center drill in a collet or something?
[02:15:35] <Connor> Well.. I have my TTS setup.. so, I would have to change out the collet..
[02:16:03] <Tom_itx> i got some extra mill holders for my sherline so i can preset several tools
[02:16:30] <Connor> I'm going to get a few more drill chucks + TTS shanks.. and some more TTS end mill holders..
[02:16:35] <PetefromTn> the R8?
[02:16:46] <Connor> but, Need to get my PDB finished.. almost done though.
[02:17:05] <PetefromTn> Hell I only have the ten I was so kindly donated to me.
[02:17:24] <PetefromTn> I am gonna have to make it work for awhile again I am PO.
[02:18:04] <Tom_itx> how many jobs do you do that need 10 tools?
[02:18:58] <PetefromTn> I have done a few that had more than that easily.
[02:19:13] <PetefromTn> But mostly it is usually like six or eight.
[02:19:18] <Tom_itx> exactly
[02:19:22] <PetefromTn> The problem is the KIND of toolholders
[02:19:35] <Tom_itx> well that could be a problem
[02:19:37] <PetefromTn> I have some odd sized endmill holders, one ER20 collet holder
[02:19:47] <Connor> What's the standard way of handling Drill bits? Drill Chucks ?
[02:19:57] <Tom_itx> Connor, just depends
[02:20:00] <PetefromTn> and a single drill chuck.
[02:20:05] <Tom_itx> we tried to use collets when we could
[02:20:05] <PetefromTn> In a CNC most folks use collets..
[02:20:34] <Connor> But, most collects won't cover the range of drill bit sizes..
[02:20:41] <Tom_itx> and had some 'pencil' valenite collet holders for small drills
[02:20:58] <Tom_itx> 1/2" shank
[02:21:08] <Tom_itx> to fit a regular holder then you can use small bits
[02:21:23] <Tom_itx> hell i even got one of those for my sherline and cut it off
[02:21:39] <Tom_itx> normally about 6" long i think
[02:23:01] <Connor> Thinking about getting a few of these.. http://www.littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=1660&category=
[02:23:36] <Connor> http://www.littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=1659&category=
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[02:24:17] <jdh> kind of pricey and runout-y
[02:25:09] <gammax-Laptop1> evening all.
[02:25:12] <Connor> Not as bad as the keyed one..
[02:25:50] <gammax-Laptop1> anyone know if a atx power supply can output 24v?
[02:26:00] <jdh> I think two of them can
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[02:26:27] <jdh> there are lots of web articles on making bench power supplies out of atx PSUs
[02:26:34] <PetefromTn_> what the hell...I just got kicked off and then back on..
[02:26:40] <PetefromTn_> what'd I miss..
[02:26:41] <jdh> but, 24v switchers are cheap
[02:26:52] <gammax-Laptop1> irc doesnt like TN
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[02:27:10] <PetefromTn_> Neither do I...
[02:27:10] <gammax-Laptop1> jdh a 24v switcher? never heard of it
[02:28:31] <r00t4rd3d> normally you need a ac to dc switching power supply
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[02:29:06] <PetefromTn_> ..
[02:29:28] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/24V-15A-360W-DC-Regulated-Switching-Power-Supply-CNC-/140619529451?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bd93bceb
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[02:30:20] <gammax-Laptop1> well i have an atx power supply powering up a few items in my cabinet and one thing I need is 24v for a light mounted to the box...
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[02:31:00] <r00t4rd3d> just use 110 light
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[02:31:55] <gammax-Laptop1> theres gotta be some way
[02:32:26] <Connor> can't find the runout is on the tormach brand chucks..
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[02:33:27] <jdh> run the light off 12v
[02:33:49] <PetefromTn_> You need to buy one of these nice lights everyone on the zone is talking about LOL....http://www.ebay.com/itm/360641859342?var=630113014758&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[02:34:28] <jdh> I could use some of those for outside.
[02:35:24] <PetefromTn_> they are kinda small check the measurements
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[02:39:36] <r00t4rd3d> you just gotta fucking link shit like that dont you asshat?
[02:39:53] <Tom_itx> when you paste a link it would be good to add space between it so it's 'clickable'
[02:40:05] <r00t4rd3d> oh no, he is a dbag about it
[02:40:14] <r00t4rd3d> your irc client sucks
[02:40:18] <r00t4rd3d> stfu
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[02:41:18] <Tom_itx> who are you raggin on?
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[02:41:51] <r00t4rd3d> period boy
[02:42:14] <r00t4rd3d> and his twin sister
[02:42:18] <jdh> you really think he is doing that on purpose just to make it painful?
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[02:42:33] <r00t4rd3d> probably
[02:42:39] <Tom_itx> well i don't have to click
[02:42:48] <PetefromTn_> I suppose you are talking about me
[02:42:52] <Tom_itx> so if it's to share, it's not working
[02:43:15] <jdh> Pete: if you paste a url, put a blank space in front.
[02:43:16] <r00t4rd3d> tried to convey that, but was told my irc client sucks
[02:43:26] <Tom_itx> SOB i can't find these holders anymore
[02:43:39] <PetefromTn_> yeah and you got all nasty about it too...just like you did here
[02:43:51] <r00t4rd3d> cause your an asshole about it
[02:44:01] <r00t4rd3d> give and get and all that shit
[02:44:07] <PetefromTn_> whatever you say man...
[02:44:14] <r00t4rd3d> okay man.........
[02:45:56] <PetefromTn_> r00t4rd3d: ya know I am trying to be nice here but you really are getting nasty with me. Let me ask you would you say those things to my face?
[02:46:19] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[02:46:29] <Tom_itx> nice thing about the interweb huh?
[02:46:33] <PetefromTn_> did I say something funny?
[02:46:33] <jdh> geez... it's the interwebbez,lighten up.
[02:46:39] <Tom_itx> i hate social media for that matter
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[02:49:12] <PetefromTn_> Just trying to learn here and enjoy some chatting with like minded individuals don't want any grief.
[02:49:32] <r00t4rd3d> i originally asked you nicely to stop linking like that.
[02:49:38] <r00t4rd3d> we have logs here you know
[02:49:51] <r00t4rd3d> would you like me to look it up?
[02:49:59] <PetefromTn_> yeah and If we did I am sure you would be able to read how abrasive you were about it.
[02:50:00] <Tom_itx> the request has been made, let it go
[02:50:11] <Tom_itx> i wasn't abrasive at all
[02:50:21] <jdh> The superfluous periods are annoyingly painful. I just ignore the links.
[02:50:24] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx: Wasn't speaking about you.
[02:50:25] <r00t4rd3d> i asked then you told me my irc client sucks
[02:51:00] <r00t4rd3d> ill just go back to ignoring your retarded ass
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[02:51:33] <PetefromTn_> that's fine with me.
[02:52:05] <PetefromTn_> jeez I did not realize there were so many annoyed with me here.
[02:52:26] <jdh> not you, just your links!
[02:52:32] <L84Supper> I've been saving up the periods to use to when I run out of umlauts
[02:52:34] <jdh> I just assumed you didn't know.
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[02:53:46] <Valen> there is a joke to be made about 50 shades of grey and the author having an Ellipsis key rather than a . key
[02:54:07] <PetefromTn_> That's the point...I didn't know until yesterday when he got nasty about it. Connor told me the links worked fine for him so I figured it was just his chat program that was the problem. When I post links even with the periods they glow blue and are clickable easily.
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[02:54:32] <jdh> doesn't work on mine either.
[02:54:38] <GammaX-laptop> anyone ever program a plc?
[02:54:40] <Valen> worked here
[02:54:45] <PetefromTn_> I use the periods often to portray a pause.
[02:54:52] <jdh> and then add a space
[02:55:09] <Valen> i think its safe to say that adding a space harms no one
[02:55:16] <jdh> GammaX: many have, is there a question?
[02:55:21] <Valen> and helps many
[02:55:27] <PetefromTn_> No problem with adding a space.
[02:55:35] <jdh> ok, so moving on...
[02:55:38] <PetefromTn_> Do have a problem with attitude..
[02:55:43] <L84Supper> blah blah blah..... <link> vs blah blah blah.....<link>
[02:55:52] <Tom_itx> ok so 2 pages of scrollback and we have acomplished something
[02:55:55] <jdh> heh
[02:56:03] <jdh> 20 pages for me, I have a 5 line window.
[02:56:18] <PetefromTn_> what is your chat server?
[02:56:26] <Tom_itx> freenode
[02:56:32] <jdh> heh
[02:56:47] <Tom_itx> my client is mirc and xchat
[02:56:49] <jdh> my client is ircII-Epic in a screen(1) session
[02:57:10] <L84Supper> popular chat clients here are xchat and hexchat
[02:57:17] <jdh> 80x25 text window running on a colo box with 4 channels.
[02:57:22] <PetefromTn_> Tom_itx: Have I pissed you off as well?
[02:57:25] <Valen> pidgin here
[02:57:29] <Tom_itx> no
[02:57:35] <Tom_itx> irc doesn't piss me off
[02:57:40] <Tom_itx> i can walk away easily
[02:57:45] <Valen> jdh: heres me thinking 4 line character LCD
[02:57:49] <PetefromTn_> I am on Quassel on the laptop and Andchat on the phone.
[02:57:55] <Tom_itx> you grow tough skin here
[02:58:17] <jdh> valen: nah, to hard to keep that connected.
[02:58:50] <Valen> thats what "the cloud" is for right?
[02:58:54] <Valen> urgh ;-P
[02:59:13] <jdh> if that's the cloud, I've been using it for 15 years
[02:59:48] <L84Supper> the cloud must be new
[03:00:17] <PetefromTn_> I honestly enjoy chatting here quite a bit. Surprised that the kind of talk we just witnessed is accepted.
[03:00:18] <GammaX-laptop> apparently some guy can get 24v by using the 12v+ and 12v- ...
[03:00:42] <L84Supper> + or - 24V?
[03:00:57] <jdh> Gamma: maybe, but there is very little -24vdc current
[03:01:03] <jdh> err... -12vdc
[03:01:15] <GammaX-laptop> hmmm
[03:01:16] <PetefromTn_> My Cincinatti's original control used a setup like that. + and - 12 volt for 24v.
[03:01:27] <r00t4rd3d> you got 110v right at the back of the power supply
[03:01:40] <GammaX-laptop> PetefromTn_, what kind of talk are you reffering too?
[03:01:49] <r00t4rd3d> tap into those posts and run a normal light
[03:02:08] <GammaX-laptop> I could...it just already mounted lol
[03:02:13] <PetefromTn_> GammaX-laptop: not directed to you man... no worries.
[03:02:24] <jdh> if you just want a light, try running it off 12v or go to 120vac
[03:02:29] <GammaX-laptop> PetefromTn_, just wondering what that was about lol
[03:02:47] <PetefromTn_> It's not worth any further discussion.
[03:02:52] <GammaX-laptop> jdh, 12v is very dim, 120 would blow it up
[03:03:18] <GammaX-laptop> roger.
[03:03:29] <jdh> get a 120vac bulb
[03:03:31] <Tom_itx> PetefromTn_, it's up to the ops in charge
[03:03:31] <PetefromTn_> You can actually get 12v halogen bulbs in industrial style housings that are typically made for automotive uses.
[03:03:35] <r00t4rd3d> or a regulator
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[03:03:46] <GammaX-laptop> hmmm this is true
[03:04:32] <PetefromTn_> I know because I FRIED my nice machinist work lamp in the Cincinatti by assuming it was 110 volts and it was actually 24v.
[03:05:04] <PetefromTn_> I was looking at some 12v units but apparently the style of light you can get in many different voltages including 120vac
[03:05:19] <Tom_itx> andy got some cheap ikea led work lights
[03:05:23] <Tom_itx> $9
[03:05:23] <jdh> http://www.ebay.com/itm/110922994222
[03:05:54] <eric_unterhausen> I didn't know you could get 24v lights
[03:06:09] <jdh> tons of industrial 24vdc lighting
[03:06:14] <eric_unterhausen> but I guess it makes sense since most industrial power supplies are 24v
[03:06:45] <GammaX-laptop> 10 bucks aint bad but im trying not to fill up cabinet any more than I have too lol already to much crap in it.
[03:07:18] <Tom_itx> anybody else use valenite tooling?
[03:07:21] <GammaX-laptop> I do need to find a power switch for the side of my box... any thoughts?
[03:07:44] <eric_unterhausen> Tom_itx I use whatever is cheapest
[03:08:06] <Tom_itx> well i'm just trying to see if this holder is still made and having trouble locating it
[03:08:27] <eric_unterhausen> those things can be tricky
[03:08:29] <eric_unterhausen> lathe?
[03:08:38] <Tom_itx> no it's a pencil collet holder
[03:08:50] <Tom_itx> 1/2" diameter
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[03:09:34] <eric_unterhausen> so you don't know what series collets?
[03:09:36] <Valen> we just got some 12V LED strip and put it around the place
[03:09:47] <Tom_itx> yeah i probably have a pn for it
[03:09:59] <L84Supper> http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/WALDMANN-Task-Light-6PYH2 possibly the worlds most over-priced task lamp
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[03:10:33] <jdh> L84: we have tons of those, 120vac though
[03:10:48] <eric_unterhausen> ya, industrial stuff is expensive
[03:11:03] <eric_unterhausen> price outlet strips sometime
[03:11:22] <jdh> nice lights though.
[03:11:46] <Tom_L> did kennametal buy them out?
[03:11:51] <L84Supper> it's an LED strip light in a channel 24" long
[03:13:00] <GammaX-laptop> im trying also to look for 4 inch bore cylinders almost the exact same thing as the tormach one.
[03:13:03] <jdh> and that's just one strip.
[03:13:16] <eric_unterhausen> have been thinking about getting led strip lighting from amazon
[03:13:50] <GammaX-laptop> eric_unterhausen, for what?
[03:14:09] <tjtr33> the auto stuff? ( the stuff under cars and in wheel wells)?
[03:14:10] <eric_unterhausen> under-cabinet lighting
[03:14:19] <GammaX-laptop> ahhh
[03:14:30] <eric_unterhausen> but it would be cool inside the rack for my mill
[03:14:40] <eric_unterhausen> my last light caught on fire
[03:14:54] <eric_unterhausen> ok, I didn't see that part, but the switch is melted
[03:16:14] <GammaX-laptop> i would love to have angled lights on the head of my mill...
[03:17:05] <eric_unterhausen> I have a nice machine light
[03:17:33] <eric_unterhausen> actually, 2, the one supplied by bport was pretty nice if I take all the crud off the glass
[03:20:02] <L84Supper> http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb47/rtremaine/milling_machine.jpg I still have the original one from 1960 on one that looks like this
[03:20:51] <eric_unterhausen> ya, I have one of those, but my mill is bigger so it's more to scale
[03:22:44] <tjtr33> machine light http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/08/03/machine-light-by-fra.html :)
[03:23:34] <tjtr33> oh yeah http://www.frankbuchwald.de/series/index_eng.html
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[03:26:43] <PetefromTn_> Those are really beautiful.
[03:30:48] <tjtr33> and of course one of the 1st animations from pixar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46mcpqOVN08
[03:30:54] <Tecan> (46mcpqOVN08) "Luxo Jr. - Pixar" by "Jonathan Silva" is "Film" - Length: 0:02:23
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[03:44:53] <GammaX-laptop> anyone have some extra mesa stuff they wanna sell?
[03:46:31] <Tom_itx> i bet pcw does
[03:47:27] <GammaX-laptop> whos that?
[03:47:38] <Tom_itx> he works at mesa
[03:49:19] <Tom_itx> i think for the most part ppl tend to hang on to their mesa stuff
[03:50:23] <L84Supper> the mesa boards are also pretty low priced compared to many industrial control boards
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[03:51:39] <r00t4rd3d> 89 for a 5i25
[03:52:15] <L84Supper> dollars!
[03:52:19] <GammaX-laptop> L84Supper, yeah i know im just super poor right now
[03:52:40] <r00t4rd3d> super poor but building a cnc
[03:52:43] <r00t4rd3d> :)
[03:53:04] <r00t4rd3d> not a good combo
[03:53:06] <L84Supper> GammaX-laptop: look for deals on fleabay
[03:53:19] <GammaX-laptop> yeah i know
[03:53:28] <GammaX-laptop> its already built just wanna add stuff to them
[03:53:34] <GammaX-laptop> and i need to buy metal
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[04:14:48] <r00t4rd3d> i need to buy a boat
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[04:18:11] <Tecan> buy one you can pull fat people with
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[04:30:58] <GammaX-laptop> anyone know a good source for bayonet style led's?
[04:32:12] <L84Supper> China for just about anything electronic parts related
[04:32:43] <GammaX-laptop> well... a website lol even a china direct one
[04:33:03] <L84Supper> if it's 12V then automotive tends to have the lowest prices due to volume
[04:34:26] <GammaX-laptop> 120v
[04:34:44] <GammaX-laptop> im thinkin about making my own... it would just be ghetto...
[04:35:29] <L84Supper> http://www.ledandon.com/accessories/LD-2782-115.html?gclid=CMfqodGgkrcCFVSVMgodtk8AIw
[04:35:38] <L84Supper> http://www.lightexports.com/servlet/the-2858/UltraLED-Bayonet-BA9S-LED/Detail
[04:39:03] <L84Supper> http://www.lightbulbsurplus.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=622_52_606_608
[04:40:34] <GammaX-laptop> need a dual bayonet :/
[04:40:41] <GammaX-laptop> good sites though thanks!
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[05:44:39] <ssi> is there any mechanism that can transmit power 90 degrees with no backlash, suitable for like a mill servo drive system?
[05:48:04] <toastydeath> hydraulics
[05:48:24] <ssi> heh that'd be a bit overkill :)
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[07:21:36] <Valen> ssi: compton coupling?
[07:21:40] <Valen> i think its called
[07:22:00] <Valen> thompson coupling
[07:23:46] <Valen> a pair of those might net you 90 degrees
[07:24:34] <Valen> ok perhaps way more
[07:24:38] <Valen> http://www.thompsoncouplings.com/High-RPM-and-Angle-Couplings/pl.php
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[14:20:48] <ssi> too quiet in here!
[14:22:46] <JT-Shop> you get your thc to work?
[14:22:50] <ssi> no :/
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[15:09:51] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
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[15:21:35] <ssi> pcw_home: LCTHC, using the thcud component jt wrote
[15:21:53] <ssi> I just haven't figured out the magic of configuring it in hal yet
[15:22:08] <IchGuckLive> easy ssi
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[15:22:50] <pcw_home> OK if it was THCAD and G540 you need to use the divider (G540 inputs wont do 1 MHz)
[15:23:06] <ssi> ah
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[15:25:53] <IchGuckLive> ssi querry came to you !
[15:26:11] <ssi> IchGuckLive: thanks!
[15:26:15] <IchGuckLive> NP
[15:26:34] <ssi> what do you have tied to thcud.enable?
[15:28:04] <IchGuckLive> you can do it to your pycvp or you can also set this as standard
[15:28:24] <IchGuckLive> or even by Fire the torch enable it
[15:29:44] <ssi> I was trying to do something fancy like tie it to arc-ok
[15:30:16] <IchGuckLive> no
[15:30:24] <IchGuckLive> ark ok is not a good idee
[15:31:07] <IchGuckLive> if you fire the tourch you are at pirce hight ? or at cutting height
[15:31:18] <IchGuckLive> with the hypertherm i use different
[15:31:30] <IchGuckLive> on the S-plasma i use the same
[15:32:13] <IchGuckLive> ssi: can we discuss later im off work now and back at 19:00 MESZ
[15:32:33] <IchGuckLive> < By
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[15:38:27] <Nick001-Shop> pcw_home: Do you have info on using the 7i52S to drive steppers with an encoder or linear scale?
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[15:41:23] <pcw_home> Its basically setup like a normal servo system except the PID component output
[15:41:25] <pcw_home> drives the stepgens velocity command (stepgen must be set to operate in velocity mode)
[15:41:57] <ssi> I'm planning to re-do my small lathe and add encoders to the steppers
[15:42:06] <ssi> mostly because I wanted to use their index for more repeatable homing
[15:42:18] <ssi> but closing the position loop could be nice too
[15:42:47] <ssi> I made these: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJxJMQICEAAO_GV.jpg:large
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[15:42:58] <ssi> encoder mounts for nema23
[15:43:58] <Tom_itx> for stepper system?
[15:44:00] <ssi> yea
[15:44:17] <jdh> to what end?
[15:44:29] <jdh> better stepper homing?
[15:44:31] <ssi> pretty sure I stated that above
[15:44:35] <ssi> yes
[15:44:51] <jdh> oh, one of the problems with tiny irc windows :)
[15:45:36] <ssi> repeatable homing is super critical on a lathe
[15:45:49] <ssi> on X axis especially
[15:45:58] <ssi> otherwise you have to cut, measure, adjust touchoff every time
[15:47:33] <ssi> my small lathe was the first mesa machine I built, and I used a 7i43, and built a breakout on perfboard
[15:47:42] <ssi> I want to redo it with mesa breakouts
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[15:49:33] <Loetmichel> g'day
[15:50:01] <pcw_home> to close the position loop with step motors you usually want pretty high gearing or ustep ratio
[15:50:34] <ssi> why's that?
[15:50:50] <ssi> I don't know offhand what the ustep on my drives is, but the motors are direct coupled
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[15:52:19] <pcw_home> you want to be able to make small steps in the position so the
[15:52:21] <pcw_home> PID loop has at least an approximately linear range to run in
[15:52:35] <ssi> I see
[15:53:14] <ssi> well I want the encoders for the index at the very least, and it's worth playing with closing the loop, but if it doesn't work out it's not the end of the world
[15:53:41] <ssi> pcw_home: the web site says 7i76 can do two encoders on field IO for MPG, but I can't find anything in the manual about it... would they be suitable for axis encoders?
[15:53:49] <pcw_home> you are approximating a velocity mode servo, position steps don't fit this model very well)
[15:54:38] <pcw_home> They are mainly for MPGs (low maximum speed, no index)
[15:54:56] <ssi> that's what I was afraid of
[15:55:07] <pcw_home> also default is X1 mode
[15:55:22] <ssi> maybe I'll just suck it up and move that machine to servos :)
[15:55:38] <pcw_home> you can alway use encoders on the other 5I25 connector
[15:55:45] <pcw_home> always
[15:56:03] <ssi> which breakout would be most suitable for them?
[15:56:08] <ssi> a 7i77? or is there something better
[15:56:09] <pcw_home> or use a 7I85S/7I84 combo instead of a 7I76
[15:56:36] <pcw_home> for servos or steppers with feedback?
[15:57:02] <ssi> steppers with feedback
[15:57:13] <ssi> I guess the 7i85
[15:57:18] <pcw_home> probably 7I85S
[15:57:49] <ssi> what's the S designate?
[15:57:53] <pcw_home> 4 step/dir 4 encoders 1 RS-422 expansion port
[15:58:01] <pcw_home> Step/dir
[15:58:09] <ssi> ohh
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[15:58:20] <pcw_home> although there are PWM/Dir versions as well
[15:58:34] <ssi> you make too much neat stuff
[15:58:38] <ssi> I can't keep it all straight :D
[15:58:53] <pcw_home> (5I25/6I25 firmware versions I should say)
[15:59:47] <ssi> so as far as hardware differences between '85 and '85S
[16:00:00] <ssi> looks like '85 is 5 rs422, and '85S is 8 differential
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[16:00:45] <ssi> I see ok, so the '85S uses the differentials for step/dir with appropriate firmware
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[16:01:10] <pcw_home> the' 85 has 5 RS-422 ports and 4 encoder inputs, the '85S has1 RS-422 port, 8 differential outputs and 4 encoder inputs
[16:01:28] <ssi> and then you can just swap 5i25 firmwares and repurpose it as a pwm/dir + encoder board?
[16:01:39] <ssi> that could be handy if I ever change that machine to servo
[16:01:46] <pcw_home> so basically a 422 receiver is replaces with a 422 driver
[16:01:49] <ssi> assuming I could find drives that take pwm rather than +/-10
[16:02:30] <ssi> and the 422 port is mainly for use as a sserial port?L
[16:02:34] <ssi> or do I misunderstand that
[16:02:42] <pcw_home> Yes both 7I85S firmware types are available (AMC drives often have PWM)
[16:02:46] <ssi> I haven't worked with sserial at all beyond the magic that the 7i77 does with it
[16:03:16] <pcw_home> yes the RS-422 port is mainly for sserial but the UART component can use it as well
[16:03:30] <ssi> what do folks do with uarts?
[16:03:42] <pcw_home> (or other uses like SSI.BISS encoders)
[16:05:03] <pcw_home> We have a few customers playing around with the UART.
[16:05:05] <pcw_home> Not sure what they are up to
[16:05:15] <ssi> aw there's no plug'n'go 7i85S kit
[16:05:41] <pcw_home> Well there is (we've sold a few)
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[16:06:16] <ssi> wow '85S is half the price of a '77 too
[16:06:19] <pcw_home> main disadvantage of the 7I85/7I85S is theres no GPIO
[16:06:32] <ssi> hm
[16:06:39] <ssi> none whatsoever? so I'd need another card for limits
[16:06:59] <pcw_home> so you either have to add a 7I84. or add a standard breakout to the other 5I25 port
[16:07:24] <pcw_home> (or 7I73 or 7I69 etc)
[16:07:53] <ssi> I don't suppose there are any similar options for 50 pin cards are there?
[16:08:03] <ssi> cause I have 7i43 in there now, and I have some spare io breakouts for it
[16:08:13] <pcw_home> Yes 7I52S
[16:08:27] <ssi> aha perfect
[16:08:52] <ssi> the '52s doesn't retain any RS422 it looks like?
[16:09:25] <pcw_home> Actually if the Hostmot2 driver was a little smarter you could have I/O from the free encoder pins
[16:09:33] <ssi> that'd be nice
[16:09:39] <pcw_home> Theres a varient that does
[16:09:59] <ssi> is it possible to mix and match step/dir with pwm/dir?
[16:10:03] <ssi> I'd need to drive a vfd as well
[16:10:23] <pcw_home> Yes
[16:10:34] <ssi> as simple as "stepgens=2 pwmgens=1"? :D
[16:10:48] <ssi> or will I be downloading webpack
[16:11:02] <pcw_home> You would need a special config
[16:12:15] <pcw_home> But i dont mind making them up, its only a couple minutes (make new pinout file from old, re-compile)
[16:12:42] <ssi> nice
[16:12:53] <ssi> one of these days I need to get myself set up to hack them myself
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[16:13:46] <ssi> well once I get this mill up and running I'm going to spend some time reimagining the small lathe
[16:15:29] <ssi> I think I'm going to order another '77 kit for the mill... I've got MCG servos for it, and three 30A8T AMC drives
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[16:19:37] <pcw_home> 30A8 is 80V 30A?
[16:19:56] <ssi> yep
[16:20:06] <ssi> it's MASSIVELY overrated current wise
[16:20:09] <ssi> but I have them and they were cheap
[16:20:25] <ssi> the servos I have are 60V, I think 5A continuous
[16:20:49] <pcw_home> You always want about 3X cont current available for servos
[16:21:03] <ssi> well I have 6x :D
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[16:21:15] <skunkworks> the amc's are rated peak
[16:21:21] <ssi> yea that's true
[16:21:25] <skunkworks> so 30a peak - 15a continuous
[16:21:26] <ssi> I think they're 15A continuous
[16:21:36] <ssi> at any rate, they should be fine
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[16:21:39] <pcw_home> so you may want to set the peak current a little lower
[16:21:44] <Tom_itx> ssi, you should learn about bit files
[16:21:45] <Tom_itx> :)
[16:21:51] <ssi> Tom_itx: it's on my list
[16:22:10] <ssi> what about power supply? any suggestions on how much current I need and where I might look?
[16:22:18] <ssi> was thinking about just buying a big toroid and making my own unregulated supply
[16:22:48] <ssi> also wasn't sure with the 60v servos if I should shoot for 60v unloaded or 60v loaded
[16:22:52] <pcw_home> Yeah, that probably best for ability to ride out peak demands
[16:23:09] <ssi> is 60v a nominal rating or an absolute max
[16:23:51] <pcw_home> I would go for 60V loaded but make sure you cannot get above the drives absolute max V
[16:23:59] <ssi> that shouldn't be a problem
[16:24:07] <ssi> I think 60v loaded will be 75v or so unloaded max
[16:24:27] <pcw_home> (dont know if the AMC drives have a brake)
[16:24:34] <ssi> I don't think they do
[16:24:55] <ssi> oh I had a silly question occur to me last night trying to fall asleep
[16:24:57] <skunkworks> no - but if you get AC versions (internal power supply) I think they do
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[16:25:15] <pcw_home> that becomes an issue if you get close to the max V
[16:25:19] <ssi> pcw_home: is it feasible to use the velocity value in hal on an encoder as an output to a drive for velocity mode in lieu of a tachgen?
[16:25:30] <skunkworks> ssi, yes
[16:25:32] <skunkworks> I am doing it
[16:25:34] <ssi> yea?
[16:25:47] <ssi> I dunno if it's worth doing
[16:25:59] <ssi> I managed to get the last set of current mode drives tuned reasonably well
[16:26:08] <ssi> well, pcw managed to tune them well using me as remote hands :D
[16:26:09] <pcw_home> yep a number of people with bad tachs have done this
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[16:26:28] <skunkworks> I had a tach go bad.. so it was pretty easy to send the velocity from the mesa encoder -> +/-10v to the drive.
[16:26:35] <ssi> cool, good to know
[16:26:41] <ssi> I wasn't sure if it'd be too lumpy or something
[16:26:52] <pcw_home> but you need to have drives that will accept +-10 (tach inputs are usually higher voltage)
[16:27:09] <skunkworks> cradek, has a neat scope shot showing how nice it looks (analog vs digital)
[16:27:17] <ssi> yea the AMC drives list it as +/-60V tach ref input
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[16:27:34] <ssi> well, maximum of 60V
[16:27:41] <ssi> not sure if it'd be happy with less
[16:27:45] <pcw_home> the velocity estimation is pretty good (as good as the quadrature normally)
[16:28:00] <skunkworks> yes - the amc drives I am using have a 'velocity' input - +/-10v vs the tach input
[16:28:29] <ssi> which drive is it?
[16:28:36] <skunkworks> 40a40ac
[16:28:43] <skunkworks> b40a40ac
[16:28:56] <skunkworks> be40a40ac < that is it
[16:29:02] <ssi> bigguns
[16:29:03] <pcw_home> thats a big-un
[16:29:07] <pcw_home> Ha
[16:29:19] <ssi> yea yours has a velocity input that mine don't have
[16:29:24] <Tom_itx> go big or go home
[16:29:25] <Tom_itx> !
[16:29:28] <ssi> heheh
[16:29:51] <skunkworks> running these http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/DSC_0242.JPG
[16:29:55] <ssi> I bought the 30A8's before I Realized that AMC brushless drives will drive brushed motors
[16:30:02] <ssi> I've been quite impressed with the AMC stuff overall
[16:30:05] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servotag.JPG
[16:30:17] <ssi> skunkworks: yea that's bigger than anything i have :)
[16:30:47] <skunkworks> we have had one flakey one.. but they where all bought used..
[16:30:58] <ssi> yeah and they can be had cheap used
[16:31:06] <ssi> I think I paid about $100 for three 30A8s
[16:31:10] <ssi> cheaper than buying stepper drivers
[16:31:11] <skunkworks> yep
[16:31:14] <skunkworks> yep
[16:31:20] <skunkworks> people don't understand that...
[16:31:29] <ssi> and I bougth the b15a20 drives for the mill I just did for about $400 total
[16:31:39] <ssi> they were a little harder to find... most of the stuff out there is 80v
[16:31:43] <ssi> but I needed 140v for that machine
[16:31:54] <skunkworks> then with $239 for the mesa 5i25 and analog interface - you have one hell of a machine
[16:31:58] <ssi> yep
[16:32:05] <ssi> yeah the superport kits are an amazing value
[16:32:33] <ssi> was trying to tell that nub last night in here that rather than trying to buy a pci parport that may or may not work, just spend a couple bux and get something that'll really give you a lot of flexibility
[16:32:59] <ssi> but no, he'll probably buy three crappy parport cards trying to find one that works in linux, and then spend endless time and money with stupid breakout boards
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[16:41:26] <jthornton> sometimes they can't see the forest for the trees
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[16:42:42] <Tom_itx> i look up and all i see is sunshine
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[16:51:35] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:51:56] <ssi> hey
[16:52:05] <IchGuckLive> did it work for you
[16:52:13] <ssi> I'm not home, so I haven't had a chance to try
[16:52:24] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[16:52:35] <IchGuckLive> give it a try when you like
[16:52:36] <ssi> and my machine is a hypertherm pm45
[16:52:43] <ssi> and i fire at pierce height: 0.2"
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[16:53:25] <IchGuckLive> ssi thats high i use 3.5mm
[16:53:41] <ssi> that's the book number from the hypertherm manual
[16:53:52] <IchGuckLive> 0,14"
[16:54:32] <ssi> shielded vs unshielded consumables is the difference I bet
[16:54:35] <IchGuckLive> and cut at 0,055
[16:54:55] <IchGuckLive> at 116.3V THC
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[16:55:01] <ssi> yea the shielded chart says 0.15" pierce height, 0.06" cut height
[16:55:07] <ssi> unshielded says 0.2", 0.08"
[16:55:15] <IchGuckLive> ok
[16:55:41] <IchGuckLive> i only got 2mm Sheets 0,078"
[16:56:13] <ssi> I'd like to get a machine torch
[16:56:27] <IchGuckLive> 4600mm/min = 180inch /min
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[16:56:50] <IchGuckLive> ssi: dont do it
[16:56:52] <ssi> no?
[16:57:25] <IchGuckLive> i got a fast plugin so i can hand cut at any time
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[16:59:00] <ssi> I think maybe the reason that I wasn't getting THC yesterday is because the torch was running too high, and the LCTHC was in tip saver mode
[17:00:12] <generic_nick> ssi: have you found a paint that matches or somewhat matches the hardinge grey?
[17:01:08] <ssi> generic_nick: haven't tried
[17:01:19] <IchGuckLive> ssi: the pm 45 triggers the torch ok only if the V is higher then 117V
[17:01:20] <ssi> I have a hard enough time keeping the machine running, much less making it pretty :)
[17:01:43] <ssi> IchGuckLive: are you sure about that? I'm sure I've run lower voltage than that
[17:01:44] <generic_nick> LOL
[17:01:51] <ssi> the manual calls out lower voltages for somecuts
[17:02:00] <generic_nick> ssi: whats wrong with yours?
[17:02:11] <ssi> 112v is the lowest in the charts
[17:02:15] <ssi> generic_nick: pneumatics are busted
[17:02:21] <IchGuckLive> as i speek so you are always at picehight over the 116V and can move down
[17:02:24] <generic_nick> for the toolchanger?
[17:02:30] <ssi> IchGuckLive: ah I see
[17:02:33] <ssi> generic_nick: yeah
[17:03:21] <generic_nick> ssi: do you think it's the piston below the turret, or the selenoids?
[17:03:31] <ssi> generic_nick: well I think it was the piston
[17:03:33] <ssi> I replaced it
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[17:03:43] <ssi> and then when I put it back together, tsomething else is wrong
[17:04:13] <generic_nick> i would assume you know where all the selenoids are, right?
[17:04:45] <generic_nick> lower pannel, front right
[17:05:26] <ssi> I do, but I haven't torn into those at all
[17:05:32] <ssi> I don't really fully understand the pneumatics :P
[17:05:45] <ssi> I've probably asked you this before, but what part of the world are you in?
[17:05:46] <PetefromTn_> hey fellas.
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[17:05:54] <generic_nick> socal
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[17:06:23] <ssi> dangit
[17:06:35] <ssi> need more southeast hnc people :P
[17:06:43] <ssi> so I can bribe them out to fix my crap with beer
[17:06:56] <PetefromTn_> can somebody help me with tool length offsets?
[17:06:58] <generic_nick> ssi: you may have "spare" selenoids in there, if you're not using the part off tool or part chute.
[17:07:05] <ssi> I'm using neither
[17:07:07] <ssi> that's good to know
[17:07:30] <generic_nick> you can jut swap wires/air lines around to see if that works.
[17:07:54] <ssi> it's been five months since I messed with it, but once I put it back together, the symptom was an air leak at the valve block behind the turret
[17:08:06] <ssi> and when I give a toolchange command, the air leak changed sounds
[17:08:19] <ssi> before I took it apart, it didn't have that leak, but the turret didn't have enough power to move itself
[17:08:24] <generic_nick> maybe it's an air line
[17:08:26] <ssi> I think that's because of the broken piston in that check valve under the turret
[17:08:29] <skunkworks> PetefromTn_, ask the question....
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[17:08:53] <PetefromTn_> Okay I am trying to run this first part I designed.
[17:09:01] <IchGuckLive> G43
[17:09:03] <PetefromTn_> I am loading the tools manually into the control
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[17:09:19] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: Use G43 H(toolnumber
[17:09:32] <PetefromTn_> I used that tutorial that tells how to do it using MDI and whatnot and got the first tool loaded up
[17:09:52] <IchGuckLive> first shoudt alwas be zero
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[17:10:04] <PetefromTn_> But when I tried to load another tool It says that tool number does not exist error and I cant seem to figure out how to get beyond it.
[17:10:16] <generic_nick> you have to add the tool in the tool chart
[17:10:20] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: second tool length compensation towards T1
[17:10:36] <generic_nick> go to edit tool table in the file tab in axis
[17:10:37] <PetefromTn_> Okay how do you get to the tool chart?
[17:10:48] <IchGuckLive> EDIT
[17:10:55] <generic_nick> file
[17:11:09] <jthornton> PetefromTn_, the tool table?
[17:11:41] <PetefromTn_> when I click on Edit tool table I don't get anything...
[17:11:48] <generic_nick> ah
[17:12:03] <generic_nick> then thats above my pay grade lol
[17:12:04] <jthornton> how did you configure it in the ini file?
[17:12:20] <PetefromTn_> Configure what?
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[17:12:28] <IchGuckLive> and AD editor to your system ii
[17:12:31] <jthornton> tool editor?
[17:12:52] <PetefromTn_> dunno let me bring up the INI and look at it.
[17:13:07] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_config.html#_display_section_a_id_sub_display_section_a
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[17:13:23] <jthornton> it's in the display section
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[17:13:46] <IchGuckLive> TOOL_EDITOR = tooledit
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[17:14:13] <IchGuckLive> TOOL_EDITOR = gedit
[17:14:39] <PetefromTn_> Okay I don't see TOOL EDITOR anywhere in display..
[17:14:40] <IchGuckLive> EDITOR = gedit
[17:14:43] <ssi> are there AMC drives that can do AC brushless motors?
[17:15:03] <jthornton> read the link for options
[17:15:20] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: use both
[17:15:29] <PetefromTn_> There is only Editor not TOOL Editor.
[17:15:46] <IchGuckLive> EDITOR = gedit
[17:15:48] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: use both
[17:16:09] <PetefromTn_> Can I just add in Tool Editor and type it in?
[17:16:42] <jthornton> yea just do it as the manual in the link shows
[17:16:44] <IchGuckLive> TOOL_EDITOR = gedit THIS line below EDITOER
[17:17:44] <PetefromTn_> Okay I figured out how to add TOOL_EDITOR=tooledit
[17:17:58] <PetefromTn_> Can I just add , Gedit or something like that?
[17:18:24] <IchGuckLive> yes
[17:18:31] <jthornton> try them one at a time
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[17:19:32] <PetefromTn_> okay will do but the comma will work between the two...?
[17:19:55] <PetefromTn_> I suppose having both will allow downloading of the tool table for use on the computer in the house.
[17:19:56] <jthornton> my guess is no, but you can find out and let us know how confused it gets
[17:20:12] <PetefromTn_> then how would you add both?
[17:20:25] <jthornton> why do you need both?
[17:20:31] <IchGuckLive> both lines Editor and ToolEditor
[17:20:41] <IchGuckLive> not both editors
[17:20:54] <IchGuckLive> you can do editor gedit
[17:21:01] <IchGuckLive> and tooleditor wordpad
[17:21:35] <IchGuckLive> but not editor=gedit,wordpad
[17:21:50] <IchGuckLive> this may fail
[17:22:23] <jthornton> and should fail as it is not a logical choice
[17:22:36] <PetefromTn_> Okay just tried Gedit and tooledit with a comma in between and it did not work. linuxCNC loaded tho.
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[17:23:34] <IchGuckLive> hi bedah wether at your place
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[17:24:06] <PetefromTn_> Okay Editor...G edit, and TOOL_EDITOR= Tooledit works...
[17:24:20] <PetefromTn_> Thanks guys now I can try to load some tools and cut this part.
[17:24:33] <Loetmichel> hmmm
[17:25:20] <Loetmichel> question: these couplers are called "oldenham type" iirc -> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Drehstarre-Kupplung-fur-CNC-Antriebe-/121063279956?pt=Modellbauwerkzeuge&hash=item1c2fef0d54
[17:25:31] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: dnt forget the G43 Hxxx if you have diferent length
[17:25:51] <Loetmichel> ... whats the english name for these types? -> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Profi-Drehstarre-Kupplung-14-19-16Nm-Wellenkupplung-Neu-/310577441911?pt=Industriemaschinen&hash=item484fdbac77
[17:25:59] <PetefromTn_> wait got a MSG that says only these columns are currently used
[17:26:00] <PetefromTn_> Z
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[17:26:19] <PetefromTn_> Limit display to these columns by specifying
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[17:27:13] <PetefromTn_> (Display) TOOL_EDITOR =tooledit Col_1, Col_2...col_N
[17:27:26] <PetefromTn_> for standalone use invoke as
[17:28:16] <PetefromTn_> tooledit col_1,Col_2 ,...Col_N, Tool_table_filename.
[17:28:23] <PetefromTn_> What does this message mean?
[17:29:00] <bedah> tach IchGuckLive
[17:29:08] <IchGuckLive> B)
[17:29:26] <rob_h> means you can coustomize the way tooleditor looks when you open it
[17:29:49] <rob_h> ie not show XYW etc offsets for tools... etc
[17:30:23] <PetefromTn_> okay so it is not an error then?
[17:30:39] <Loetmichel> any native english speakers? noone can answer my question?
[17:31:18] <JT-Shop> spider coupling
[17:31:28] <Loetmichel> thanks
[17:31:29] <JT-Shop> Love Joy is a common brand
[17:31:33] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/tooledit.html
[17:33:00] <PetefromTn_> Okay I think I got it working here.
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[17:33:07] <PetefromTn_> Thanks guys.
[17:33:14] <IchGuckLive> NP
[17:36:36] <PetefromTn_> actually I just homed the machine and loaded the first tool and went to check the table by clicking edit tool table and it would not come up.
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[17:37:27] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: Flexible coupling: elastic coupling ADS/R Series
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[17:38:07] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: i think "spider coupling" will do
[17:38:07] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[17:38:14] <IchGuckLive> Backlash-free Shaft Coupling Series SMC
[17:38:53] <Loetmichel> i've made them myself once . just didnt know how to call them
[17:39:08] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12846
[17:39:19] <IchGuckLive> http://jbj.co.uk/spidercoupling.html
[17:39:31] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12834
[17:39:44] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12821&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[17:40:45] <IchGuckLive> nice spindle block
[17:40:49] <IchGuckLive> speed is
[17:40:59] <Loetmichel> ~30krpm
[17:41:03] <Loetmichel> max
[17:41:10] <IchGuckLive> whow hard on bearing
[17:41:38] <Loetmichel> standard 608zz
[17:41:58] <IchGuckLive> will they hold your bitforce
[17:42:51] <Loetmichel> get a little hot ald 30krom, solved that by washing them out and filled with a "haftoel"
[17:42:55] <Loetmichel> they will
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[17:43:08] <IchGuckLive> i see in the FAG 20k may at dynamicC 3
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[17:43:41] <Loetmichel> the Er11 at the tip is only for 6mm max bits
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[17:44:08] <Loetmichel> ahem... in the photos its only a proxxon spindle head with a collet for 1/8" bits
[17:44:20] <Loetmichel> so no pain in side forces
[17:44:40] <Loetmichel> now the spindle has an ER11 collet
[17:44:44] <Loetmichel> still no problems
[17:44:59] <IchGuckLive> the 6200Nr are made for your requests
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[17:45:35] <Loetmichel> that was a cheap shot for a friend who was in need for a spindle, better than his "dremel"
[17:46:00] <Loetmichel> (the cnc had a proxxon FBS230 on it)
[17:46:18] <IchGuckLive> i use IBE proxxon for all
[17:46:21] <Loetmichel> and was in need of "a bit more power"
[17:46:29] <IchGuckLive> i agree
[17:46:45] <Loetmichel> the johnsond dc motor on it has 250W continous power
[17:46:56] <Loetmichel> and MUCH more torque than the FBS230 ;-)
[17:47:04] <IchGuckLive> proxxon IbE 230V has 300
[17:47:10] <Loetmichel> wron
[17:47:15] <Loetmichel> it has 100
[17:48:30] <Loetmichel> and NOT continous
[17:48:37] <Loetmichel> it will get hot really quick
[17:48:45] <Loetmichel> i know, i used it a while
[17:49:06] <PetefromTn_> is there a reason I can only get the tool editor to open when I first turn on the linuxCNC?
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[17:49:28] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn_: jes
[17:49:37] <IchGuckLive> interpreter needs to run
[17:50:41] <PetefromTn_> Okay still not able to load more than one tool. It says there is no tool in the table. Tried to load a tool into the table and it gives me errors when I save it.
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[17:51:23] <IchGuckLive> use the add button
[17:53:49] <PetefromTn_> Do you have to have a pocket number even if you don't use the toolchanger yet?
[17:54:38] <IchGuckLive> yes
[17:55:03] <IchGuckLive> and no doubles
[17:55:29] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: is the number on your motor available on pollin
[17:55:37] <IchGuckLive> http://www.pollin.de/shop/p/OTk4OTg4/Motoren/Gleichstrommotoren.html
[17:55:40] <PetefromTn_> okay Just temporarily used the same pocket number as the tool number
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[17:57:53] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: no, not any more
[17:58:35] <IchGuckLive> what is it a HC683LP-023
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[17:59:02] <andypugh> PetefromTn_: I have heard of this issue, but not seen it. If you Alt-Tab through the windows, do you find a forgotten tool editor hidden at the back?
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[18:04:49] <IchGuckLive> hi FredrikHson
[18:04:49] <FredrikHson> just thought i share this https://www.dropbox.com/s/9o541frigq9zdju/DSC01104.JPG just went out and oiled most of the things i have cut from wood with my mill
[18:05:31] <IchGuckLive> this parts may fill your wallet
[18:06:33] <IchGuckLive> upper part is maple
[18:08:03] <FredrikHson> terrible soft material not really good for milling imo
[18:08:42] <IchGuckLive> you can get colored up 2 4colors Ureol in Europ
[18:08:50] <FredrikHson> i think it was like the second test for my mill
[18:08:58] <FredrikHson> the first being the second from the top
[18:08:59] <IchGuckLive> looks like different stone or wood
[18:09:29] <IchGuckLive> and it i chiped like hell
[18:09:55] <IchGuckLive> and it can be chiped like hell
[18:14:09] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: you mean like this: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4378
[18:14:32] <Loetmichel> ... and looking like this afterwardS: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5077
[18:14:33] <Loetmichel> ;-)
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[18:15:10] <IchGuckLive> you did a highspeed milling
[18:16:34] <Loetmichel> something like that
[18:17:06] <FredrikHson> good thing that it wasn't metal that would be painful with that much chips all over you
[18:17:33] <Loetmichel> FredrikHson: metal wouldnt be so much chips
[18:17:41] <Loetmichel> cnc wasnt THAT rigid
[18:17:48] <FredrikHson> depends on how much metal you remove
[18:18:09] <IchGuckLive> im off By
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[18:18:35] <FredrikHson> i am glad i don't work with metals anymore those things burn when they get under your shirt..... and they always do
[18:20:18] <Loetmichel> tha problem with these plastics: they tend to get a static charge and cling to EVERYTHING
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[18:24:39] <Loetmichel> FredrikHson: and i was NOT amused to look like a snowman ;-)
[18:25:13] <FredrikHson> so turning around to get an even coat would be a bad idea then ;)
[18:25:48] <FredrikHson> you should perhaps try to get some kind of enclosure for your machine to reduce that problem
[18:29:24] <Loetmichel> normally the mill had a "vaccum foot" around the mill bit
[18:29:40] <Loetmichel> but it doesent fit around the 40mm 4 flute ;-)
[18:30:21] <Loetmichel> witrh a smaller bit it looks like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj8sGEf8Wf8
[18:30:35] <Loetmichel> (drilling 3mm holes in 1,5mm carbon)
[18:31:27] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4935 <- thete is a photo of the whole machine
[18:33:23] <PetefromTn_> andypugh: no I will try that tho...
[18:34:52] <Loetmichel> there
[18:35:28] <FredrikHson> looks very clean with that on there
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[18:40:39] <Loetmichel> it is
[18:40:47] <Loetmichel> i.e it was
[18:41:00] <Loetmichel> i've build that machine for my ex- employer
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[18:41:39] <ReadError> does that scratch up the surface?
[18:41:44] <ReadError> with it dragging over it
[18:42:28] <Loetmichel> who had selled the whole company. and the buyer had lasted half a year then the machine was broken (literally, the gantry broke apart because he had one motor for the spindles omitted and shortly after the sync belt had broken)
[18:42:44] <Loetmichel> ReadError: the foot is made of LDPE
[18:43:05] <Loetmichel> (ikea kitchen board for cutting vegetables)
[18:43:35] <Loetmichel> it is very smooth and ductile
[18:43:41] <Loetmichel> no scratches
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[18:49:08] <Loetmichel> i even milled balsa wood with it
[18:49:14] <Loetmichel> with no marks on the balsa
[18:49:18] <ssi> dammit :(
[18:49:34] <ssi> got my pulleys from mcmaster, and the acetal ones were a mistake
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[18:50:09] <ssi> the drawing makes it look like it has a 3/4" aluminum hub all the way through it, but it's only 3/4" at the setscrew hub... it's only like 5/16" through the acetal
[18:50:16] <ssi> if I bore it out, the hub will come off the acetal
[18:50:30] <Loetmichel> ssi: thats bad
[18:50:33] <ssi> yeah
[18:50:39] <ssi> ordered a steel one, OI'll go pick it up on my way home
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[18:52:35] <Loetmichel> i make my pulleys on the mill... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=7074 (the lower brown ones)
[18:52:56] <ssi> I need the pulleys to make my mill :)
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[18:53:13] <Loetmichel> hrhr, hen/egg problem ;)
[18:53:16] <ssi> :D
[18:53:31] <ssi> working on this:
[18:53:31] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKGFA46CQAA-7-2.jpg:large
[18:53:36] <ssi> and no, that MXL pulley won't stay on there
[18:54:00] <ssi> I have this bad situation where I need to put a small pulley on a big shaft, and a big pulley on a small shaft
[18:54:04] <ssi> and it's frustrating
[18:54:43] <Loetmichel> hrhr, i can understand that. been there ;-)
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[18:55:20] <Loetmichel> solved a similar problem my way:
[18:55:27] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11702
[18:55:33] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11711
[18:55:38] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11705
[18:55:43] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11714
[18:55:44] <ssi> I'm mad at myself cause i had originally cut that ballscrew with a 5/16" stub shaft
[18:55:44] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[18:55:56] <ssi> and I got myself mixed up thinking the small pulley would go on the screw
[18:56:00] <ssi> so I spun it down to 1/4"
[18:56:08] <ssi> now I'm in a bad spot, cause the big pulley is a 5/16" bore
[18:56:16] <Loetmichel> i LOVE these 1/4" Pertinax plates ;-)
[18:56:51] <ssi> that's pretty cool
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[18:57:43] <generic_nick> so is emc2 now officially called linuxcnc?
[18:57:58] <ReadError> it has been forever
[18:58:05] <ReadError> well a bit
[18:58:16] <generic_nick> since when?
[18:58:41] <generic_nick> 2.5? 2.6?
[18:59:06] <PCW> somewhere in 2.5 I think
[18:59:23] <generic_nick> ok so somewhat recently.
[18:59:31] <ReadError> EMC is a bunch of scumbags
[18:59:32] <ReadError> idk, like over a year
[18:59:39] <generic_nick> why the change?
[18:59:43] <Loetmichel> ssi: i have to andmit: i had to make the planet 3 times to get one set whcih doesent block and doesent have backlash
[18:59:43] <Loetmichel> admit
[18:59:47] <Loetmichel> +s
[18:59:50] <ssi> Loetmichel: heheh
[19:00:09] <ReadError> generic_nick, I think EMC the company was butthurt
[19:00:19] <ReadError> they make like SAN storage and stuff...
[19:00:23] <generic_nick> ah
[19:02:05] <Loetmichel> ReadError: iirc they asked politely to change the name
[19:02:09] <ssi> I bought a 3/8" OD, 1/4" ID drill bushing, I'm gonna try to spin it down to 5/16" on the grinder and use it as a press-fit insert in the pulley
[19:02:19] <ssi> but I dunno how easily I'll be able to drill a setscrew hole in it
[19:02:28] <Loetmichel> not like other companys who come with a laywer and a big bill
[19:02:55] <ReadError> still, who sells SAN devices, then uses JAVA to manage them
[19:02:57] <ReadError> come on....
[19:02:59] <ssi> Loetmichel: suing an open source software project is'nt remarkably productive
[19:03:14] <ReadError> we use EMC
[19:04:08] <Loetmichel> ssi: so is suing private ppl for copyright infigment in xx million
[19:04:12] <Loetmichel> ans till it is done
[19:04:56] <generic_nick> finally have most stuff back in it's place in the shop.
[19:05:15] <generic_nick> seems cooler in there now that there is more open space and the floor is painted
[19:06:30] <generic_nick> so if i wanted to change a transformer to run on 220v instead of 110v, i would run the 2 sets of 110v windings in series instead of parallel, right?
[19:07:06] <PCW> yep
[19:07:08] <generic_nick> i keep poping my 110v breaker with the transformer on it
[19:07:27] <generic_nick> i guess 1500w plus everything else running on that circuit is too much
[19:07:35] <generic_nick> thanks PCW
[19:08:10] <generic_nick> just wanted to confirm before i burned my house down :)
[19:08:27] <PCW> make sure you get the phasing right
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[19:11:00] <generic_nick> so if there is a blue and green per winding, i would go line======>blue====green===blue==green========> line? if that makes sense?
[19:11:37] <ssi> assuming the blues were tied together before, yep
[19:11:41] <PCW> yes if they were blue-blue green-green
[19:11:46] <generic_nick> yes
[19:11:51] <generic_nick> ok cool
[19:12:51] <generic_nick> i mean that's the way i did it, assuming it was right since it seemed to work lol
[19:13:33] <ssi> yea I think if it was parallel and out of phase, bad things would have happened
[19:13:37] <ssi> like cancellation in the core
[19:13:54] <generic_nick> yea it works fine, just a bit much with everything else running,
[19:14:08] <generic_nick> if i turn on my microwave, it pops the breaker
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[19:54:19] <Jymmm> PCW: Got mSATA I/O Card? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102002&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=249294&SID=996638314_main
[19:55:34] <Jymmm> PCW: or mini PCIe
[19:55:56] <PCW> Ethernet is probably a better solution
[19:56:24] <Jymmm> PCW: What eithernet? You mean thunderbolt =)
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[19:58:00] <Jymmm> PCW: Thunderbolt only http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102001
[19:58:58] <PCW> No, Ethernet. PCIE, Thunderbolt, USB, ESATA etc are non isolated LVDS which is not the best in industrial environments
[20:00:21] <PCW> if Intel did not have their heads up their asses when they designed PCIE it could have been transformer coupled...
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[20:49:08] <GammaX-Shop|2> hello all
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[20:51:54] <andypugh> Hi
[20:52:32] <Tom_itx> afternoon
[20:52:57] <GammaX-Shop|2> today is oirganize the shop after moving day.... its a nightmare...
[20:53:25] <GammaX-Shop|2> and I have a small shop!
[20:54:24] <generic_nick> yea you're preaching to the choir
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[21:07:56] <GammaX-Shop|2> lol
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[21:13:11] <DJ9DJ_> gn8
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[22:16:11] <Nick001-Shop> <PCW> 7i52s card to run steppers with glass scale, do I use HMT2-Servo or Stepper and exactly how do I set stepgen to operate in velocity mode?
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[22:26:45] <PCW> Probably easier to start with hm2-servo and then add the stepgens, remove the pwmgens and set the stepgens to velocity mode
[22:26:48] <GammaX-Shop> im gettin major step loss and Idk what to do..
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[22:27:24] <PCW> better than major hair loss
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[22:36:16] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/4VS5LpI.jpg
[22:36:25] <r00t4rd3d> what i would do
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[22:36:56] <Nick001-Shop> <PCW>Is that the first line in the ini file? and how do I set the stepgens to velocity mode
[22:37:11] <PCW> man hostmot2
[22:37:12] <GammaX-Shop> i dont seem to lose steps when testing at a accell of 1...
[22:39:09] <GammaX-Shop> is a super low accell bad?
[22:39:20] <PCW> maxaccel/maxvel = seconds to maxvel so a good system should be able to have a 10/20 ratio of maxaccel to maxvel
[22:39:29] <syyl_> not bad, only slow
[22:39:48] <PCW> low accel means slow on curves
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[22:41:33] <GammaX-Shop> im currently pushing the accel up its at 7 and vel at 2.2...
[22:41:56] <GammaX-Shop> this is perfoming 2-3 mins tests of 8 inches on the tables letting it go back and fworth
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[22:42:41] <PCW> so thats about 1/5 of a second to full speed not too terrible
[22:42:55] <Nick001-Shop_> <PCW> guess I'll go read
[22:43:32] <PCW> velocity mode is set with just a single parameter
[22:43:43] <GammaX-Shop> PCW: This is only testing the x right now. I switchted from delron couplers to steel hardened straight shaft.
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[22:44:56] <PCW> lead screw driven?
[22:45:13] <GammaX-Shop> ball
[22:45:39] <GammaX-Shop> 570 oz on the x and y, 1200 on z
[22:46:50] <GammaX-Shop> tested at 14 with vel on 2.2 and it hung up makin a very loud racket...
[22:47:40] <PCW> What kind of step drive?
[22:48:06] <GammaX-Shop> kelinger
[22:48:06] <GammaX-Shop> nema 23
[22:49:41] <PCW> what uStep ratio?
[22:51:23] <GammaX-Shop> u stepcan you please rephrase that?
[22:51:37] <ssi> I think the keling drives are selectable between 1/2 and 1/8
[22:52:16] <GammaX-Shop> i currently have microstepping set at .5
[22:52:27] <PCW> seems like 2.2 IPS is fairly slow (132 IPM) unless the stepmotor is geared to the ball screws
[22:52:46] <GammaX-Shop> its 1:1
[22:52:50] <GammaX-Shop> straight shaft
[22:53:17] <ssi> what's your ballscrew leade?
[22:53:21] <PCW> a higher ratio might be less likely to stall
[22:53:43] <ssi> I got my pulley situation sorted out:
[22:53:43] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKLi5haCMAIynMD.jpg:large
[22:54:41] <GammaX-Shop> 10 revs an inch
[22:54:50] <ssi> really? on ballscrews?
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[22:55:19] <PCW> thats some teensy balls
[22:56:08] <ssi> GammaX-Shop: you don't want to be known for having the teensiest balls
[22:56:37] <GammaX-Shop> lol
[22:57:01] <ssi> seriously, are you sure that it's 10rev/inch, and are you sure it's ballscrew?
[22:57:09] <ssi> 5rev/inch is much more common
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[22:57:28] <GammaX-Shop> there 5 but I had to set it like that because of microstepping being set at 1
[22:57:40] <GammaX-Shop> set at .5*
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[22:59:51] <GammaX-Shop> thoughts?
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[23:01:00] <GammaX-Shop> my drivers are set at a microstep of 2....
[23:02:37] <PCW> You _may_ have less stalling if you run at 8 (1/8 step)
[23:02:39] <PCW> (if the stalling is caused by resonance)
[23:03:24] <GammaX-Shop> what values would I then put into lcnc
[23:03:50] <ssi> multiply your output scale by 4
[23:04:46] <GammaX-Shop> hmmmvok
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[23:07:43] <GammaX-Shop> i think im royaly jacking this one up lol
[23:10:53] <GammaX-Shop> if I multiply my output it would be 800 steps per rev 4 micro stepping...
[23:10:55] <GammaX-Shop> that wht u mean?
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[23:15:15] <r00t4rd3d> think he meant divide
[23:15:46] <r00t4rd3d> or maybe not
[23:20:43] <GammaX-Shop> im getting stalling on that part too.... wtf
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[23:25:56] <r00t4rd3d> set your driver to 1/2 step and 200 steps per rev
[23:28:32] <GammaX-Shop> doint think I can
[23:29:08] <GammaX-Shop> lowest setting is 2 for 400 steps/rev on 1.8 motor
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[23:30:54] <r00t4rd3d> what driver?
[23:31:07] <GammaX-Shop> leadshine ma860h
[23:33:09] <r00t4rd3d> you can do half step with that
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[23:33:25] <r00t4rd3d> sw5,6,7,8 = 0
[23:33:29] <r00t4rd3d> 200 steps
[23:34:09] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-Step-Motor-Driver-Controller-2MA860H-6A-AC-DC-Adapt-/120920742135?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c277018f7
[23:34:33] <GammaX-Shop> that wha I had... then pcw recomended I try 8
[23:34:42] <GammaX-Shop> so I did and still not workin
[23:35:03] <r00t4rd3d> whats the current set to?
[23:35:38] <r00t4rd3d> and what are your steppers rated for?
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[23:36:15] <r00t4rd3d> what do you have sw4 set to?
[23:36:49] <GammaX-Shop> steppers rated for 5 amp
[23:37:34] <r00t4rd3d> position of sw1,2,3 ?
[23:37:35] <GammaX-Shop> x and y are and there set to ... switches that is are set to off on off 1- 2- 3
[23:37:46] <GammaX-Shop> r00t4rd3d: thanks for hte help I realy appreciate it
[23:38:12] <r00t4rd3d> i have no clue what i am doing other then common sense.
[23:38:23] <GammaX-Shop> lol i think ive lost myne...
[23:39:08] <r00t4rd3d> if 123 are set to 0.1.0, that is not the correct power settings
[23:39:29] <r00t4rd3d> 3.5a peak is 0.1.0
[23:39:42] <r00t4rd3d> for 5a steppers, thats not enough
[23:40:08] <r00t4rd3d> not enough power, stall.
[23:40:18] <GammaX-Shop> hmm
[23:40:20] <r00t4rd3d> i think
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[23:40:36] <GammaX-Shop> well theres 2 labels... avg and peak....
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[23:41:25] <r00t4rd3d> i would bump it up 2 spots and try that, 001
[23:41:36] <r00t4rd3d> 5.2a / 3.7a
[23:42:00] <r00t4rd3d> and what is sw4 set to? should be 1 i think
[23:43:08] <GammaX-Shop> i have sw4 set to off
[23:44:07] <r00t4rd3d> set it to 1 for now, its just standby current
[23:44:45] <r00t4rd3d> go back to 200 steps, low and slow till you get it working correctly then bump things up
[23:45:27] <GammaX-Shop> 0 is off im assuming?
[23:45:51] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[23:47:05] <r00t4rd3d> sw123=0 , sw4=1 , sw5678=0
[23:47:06] <GammaX-Shop> if i move sw 123 to ur specs id be lowering the amps
[23:47:14] <r00t4rd3d> oh wait
[23:47:21] <r00t4rd3d> 001
[23:47:35] <GammaX-Shop> according to my diagrams it would be 4.4 peak and 3.1 avg
[23:48:00] <r00t4rd3d> whats the next levels
[23:48:16] <GammaX-Shop> 6.5 peak 4.6 average
[23:48:25] <GammaX-Shop> 7.2 peak 5.0 avg
[23:48:30] <GammaX-Shop> thats it
[23:48:37] <GammaX-Shop> my 1200 is set on 7.2 peak
[23:49:31] <r00t4rd3d> i would try 6.5/4.6
[23:51:41] <r00t4rd3d> start with low numbers in accelerations and velocity in stepconf also
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[23:53:05] <GammaX-Shop> I got it running at 2 and 10
[23:53:10] <GammaX-Shop> 8 inch passes
[23:53:57] <r00t4rd3d> are you changing those jumpers?
[23:54:01] <GammaX-Shop> and she stalled
[23:54:01] <GammaX-Shop> I did
[23:54:31] <r00t4rd3d> turn down accel and velocity
[23:55:01] <GammaX-Shop> now at 1 and 8
[23:55:23] <GammaX-Shop> i usually let it go for a min or 2 if good I bump up
[23:57:00] <r00t4rd3d> in stepconf in the axis config , motor steps per rev 200 and driver micro stepping set to 2 ?
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[23:57:27] <GammaX-Shop> no
[23:57:37] <GammaX-Shop> motorsteps set to 200 and .5
[23:57:49] <r00t4rd3d> needs to be 2.0 for half step
[23:58:15] <GammaX-Shop> ill try it out
[23:58:52] <r00t4rd3d> "The driver microstepping number should be how many microsteps are in a full step. I’m running 1/2 step, so my number would be 2. If you were running 1/16 steps, then you would put 16 here."