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[00:00:42] <andypugh> http://brass-screws.brass-fasteners-inserts.com/brass_socket_set_screws_flat_point_din_913.htm
[00:01:41] <andypugh> If they can use stainless:
http://www.modelfixings.co.uk/cup_point_grub_screws.htm
[00:01:56] <Valen> I was going to ask them about stainless
[00:02:21] <andypugh> You would probably have to buy some and see if they were austenitic or not.
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[00:02:51] <Valen> I can probably specify 316 for them which will at least help with magnetic
[00:03:17] <andypugh> You could consider making some. Drill and broach with a lathe tailstock.
[00:03:57] <Valen> i believe its under the "nice to have" heading so its worth looking for a supplier, not making them lol
[00:04:07] <andypugh> In theory my lathe can machine them. But I would need a very expensive tiny boring bar.
[00:04:26] <Valen> we were joking about how to do the broach, we figured put the broach in the mill then sneeze really hard on the head
[00:04:45] <Valen> to shape the socket for the allen key
[00:05:00] <andypugh> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/50-ph-Horn-R105-1802-0-05-TN35-02-Min-Bore-Boring-Bar-/400067050738?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d25dabcf2
[00:05:17] <syyl> grind a hex-punch and force it in with the quil of the lathe or mill..
[00:05:32] <andypugh> (boring bar for 0.02" holes)
[00:05:36] <syyl> the horn tools are epic :D
[00:05:44] <syyl> got a hole bag of them
[00:05:49] <jdh> can you edm a hex socket?
[00:05:55] <andypugh> The hex needs to be a fraction larger than an allen key though.
[00:06:06] <andypugh> jdh:Absolutely
[00:06:19] <JT-Shop> rotary broach
[00:06:34] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, hand pump or hydraulic?
[00:06:39] <andypugh> Can you get one in 0.9mm ?
[00:06:46] <JT-Shop> yes
[00:06:57] <Valen> I figured just mill the thing, grind a cutter onto a pin and go at it ;->
[00:07:00] <JT-Shop> make one
[00:07:08] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, may as well put a lever for it on the controls too
[00:07:35] <jdh> that looks a lot like the Upenders we have at work. Minus a lever
[00:09:15] <JT-Shop> it's a clever design that a friend drew up for me
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[00:10:43] <andypugh> Getting to the pump lever might be an issue.
[00:10:43] <JesusAlos> GN
[00:10:48] <JesusAlos> Thank
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[00:11:54] <Tom_itx> just run a hydraulic line to it
[00:12:01] <JT-Shop> it's close to the 2/3's level
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[00:12:25] <Valen> heres a question for you guys, dad has been toying with an idea for a lube pump
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[00:12:57] <Valen> but instead of metering orfices and the like it'll actually just be 30 odd peristaltic pumps in one little stepper driven housing
[00:13:27] <Valen> control the volume by changing the size and number of hoses you route to a specific port
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[00:13:42] <Valen> good idea?
[00:13:55] <t12> sounds expensive
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[00:14:08] <Valen> yes and no
[00:14:11] <andypugh> It might take a surprising level of torque.
[00:14:31] <Valen> we were going to use a 23 size stepper with ~5:1 ratio on it
[00:14:36] <t12> does everything actually need to be lubed at the same time
[00:14:50] <t12> you could do one peristaltic and a big rotary valve
[00:15:07] <Valen> i spose we were thinking our new mill, which is all ballscrews and linear rails so there shouldn't be much pressure
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[00:19:55] <andypugh> There are some fairly small solenoid pumps:
http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/Hawke%20Oiler/h_kit.jpg
[00:20:43] <Valen> yeah, but this one will do 30 odd oil lines
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[00:20:59] <JT-Shop> oil or grease?
[00:21:21] <Valen> and it'll totally look the sex with all hoses, module 2 ring gears, brass whatsits etc ;->
[00:21:22] <JT-Shop> when you said lube I assumed grease
[00:21:23] <Valen> oil
[00:21:51] <Valen> I don't think we have ever greased anything on our mills, even the HM45
[00:21:59] <andypugh> I think you should try it and see how it works out.
[00:22:05] <Valen> currently we have a gravity feed oil system
[00:22:28] <Valen> AKA 10 syringes sitting on the wall above the head
[00:22:56] <Valen> he fills them up in the morning and they drip oil through precisely tightened tek screw clamps into the mill
[00:23:21] <JT-Shop> sounds precise to me
[00:23:26] <Valen> (the tek screws clamp on the hose that runs to the mill)
[00:23:43] <andypugh> Like
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6091/6315762801_d0d3db220c_z.jpg ? SOunds pretty
[00:24:08] <jdh> those are pretty
[00:24:19] <Valen> hah it does look a bit like that
[00:24:30] <Valen> except made out of plastic and looking really ugly
[00:24:40] <Valen> what is that? 1850's motorcar?
[00:24:58] <L84Supper> world smallest church pipe organ?
[00:25:24] <JT-Shop> fire engine?
[00:25:46] <Valen> andypugh: wasn't the fire engine person here was he?
[00:26:26] <andypugh> Yes, I run an old fire engine, but that bank of oilers is something older. The fire engine has an oil pump!
[00:26:57] <andypugh> Valen: If you can find an 1850s motor car it would be unique and priceless :-)
[00:27:18] * Valen is a child of the interwebs if its older than about 15 minutes its aincent
[00:27:27] <andypugh> Talking oiler, this mill engine has fish-tanks full of oil sat on the main bearings:
http://manchesterhistory.net/rochdale/ellen/steam2.jpg
[00:27:44] <Valen> lol
[00:28:06] <Valen> the big brass box or the little thing on top of the arm?
[00:28:20] <andypugh> The big brass box is full of oil.
[00:28:35] <andypugh> But the other oiler is also fun.
[00:28:37] <Valen> that is a lot of oil
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[00:41:52] <archivist> hmm Ellen road engine, been to see that :)
[00:43:20] <andypugh> It's very nice.
[00:43:39] <andypugh> They have a nice workshop too, all full of lineshafting.
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[00:50:16] <gabewillen> andy do you have a link to the new RTAI? i googled it with no prevail
[00:51:18] <L84Supper> somebody who is part of the Berlin Hackerspace was interested in this:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/opensl-3d-printer-a-stereolithographic-printer-for-everyone?c=home
[00:51:39] <L84Supper> I forgot what their nick is
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[00:56:32] <andypugh> gabewillen:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/9299
[00:56:42] <gabewillen> Thanks!
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[02:02:27] <tjb1> Connor: I could help you but not with skeinforge
[02:02:57] <Connor> Yea. Using ReplicatorG with Skeinforge.
[02:03:04] <Connor> Really don't like it..
[02:03:25] <tjb1> I use Kisslicer now but it may not be the best
[02:03:30] <tjb1> Cura or Slic3r
[02:04:38] <Connor> It has Slic3r in it.. but says Experimental..
[02:04:59] <Connor> I've always used Skeinforge.. but.. it really sucks.
[02:05:29] <tjb1> I use repetier host
[02:05:53] <tjb1> I don't know if that works with makerbot though
[02:05:55] <Connor> what sort of printer?
[02:06:02] <tjb1> I am using a kossel now
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[02:35:19] <MrTrick> I'm trying to become better acquainted with G-code. In the wikipedia example (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-code#Example_program ) Lines 8-9 and 10-11 split a G01 and G00 command over multiple lines. Does that work, then?
[02:35:46] <MrTrick> So "G01 X10 Y20" is one command, and "G01 X10\nY20" is two?
[02:36:03] <jdh> it's just bad rendering of the page
[02:36:56] <jdh> nevermind, I see what you mean.
[02:37:50] <jdh> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/overview.html#sec:Modal-Groups
[02:38:00] <MrTrick> So it works? or it doesn't work? or it works but it's bad practice and it should really be "G01 X10\nG01 Y20"?
[02:38:29] <jdh> It is bad practice in my mind.
[02:38:48] <jdh> or, perhaps my mind is too simplistic. I would never do that.
[02:39:11] <tjb1> G00/G01 stay active until changed
[02:39:24] <jdh> see the URL above for Motion modal commands
[02:43:34] <skunkworks> Connor: how is petes machine?
[02:48:08] <Connor> skunkworks: Still in the process of wiring everything up.
[02:48:39] <Connor> He's been working on the Pendant and wiring up the AC for the drivers and computer..
[02:48:50] <jdh> what did you end up doing for spindle encoder?
[02:49:35] <Connor> Nothing yet. Was just doing research.. But I think we're going to use the prox sensor to mask the index on the encoder (installed on the spindle motor)
[02:50:43] <jdh> how big is the machine?
[02:52:10] <Connor> Well.. it's pretty big..
[02:52:42] <Connor> here isone..
[02:52:43] <Connor> http://www.exapro.com/used-cincinnati-arrow-500-cnc-vertical-machining-centre-w-acramatic-2100-pc-based-cnc-control-p20727031/
[02:53:16] <MrTrick> Thanks jdh. So, with say G00 active, it will use the newline to delimit, and say differentiate between "X10 Y20" and "X10\nY20" ?
[02:54:28] <jdh> the first is a single coordinated move, the second is two single moves.
[02:54:52] <MrTrick> yup, cool. :-) (sorry, the overview.html didn't seem to say that, at least not that I found)
[02:55:15] <jdh> but, I always explicitly put G0/G1/G2/G3/etc on all motion lines
[02:55:22] * MrTrick plans to drive a grbl controller with dynamically generated g-code
[02:55:37] <MrTrick> Yes, I'd say that's probably good practice.
[02:55:58] <jdh> and I never use Nxxx
[02:57:08] <MrTrick> I'm not sure grbl even supports them. (It's geared mainly towards CAM-generated code)
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[05:16:25] <L84Supper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eIwj_ThMf4Q finally a use for Cicada wings
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[05:54:19] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[07:28:27] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/ougx6xx.jpg
[08:00:27] <psha[work]> that joke is quite international :)
[08:00:59] <psha[work]> some time ago we had here active antidrug compain with 'say no to drugs' slogan
[08:01:05] <psha[work]> motto
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[08:05:30] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[14:43:14] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOhDStCIark
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[16:25:23] <r00t4rd3d> Linotype.com is giving away 8 font sets worth $400.
[16:25:26] <r00t4rd3d> https://anonfiles.com/file/1291bd168b0037c6dc638f4bec92c1a1
[16:26:06] <L84Supper> all 26 letters?
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[16:26:30] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[16:27:27] <r00t4rd3d> L84Supper, yeah
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[16:45:27] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[16:45:49] <r00t4rd3d> i just got linotypes gold and library collection, some amazing professional fonts.
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[17:05:50] <r00t4rd3d> 8,444 fonts installed :/
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[17:13:52] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: $30 upgrade to print that nexus part
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[17:19:16] <r00t4rd3d> so get your moms credit card...
[17:21:18] <Jymmm> LOL, 9K fonts installed, you're screwed.
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[17:22:04] <Jymmm> Hope you have at least 16GB of ram
[17:22:36] <r00t4rd3d> aspire has a seperate fonts folder
[17:22:56] <Jymmm> what os?
[17:23:13] <r00t4rd3d> windows 8
[17:23:15] <r00t4rd3d> 7
[17:23:34] <Jymmm> Open up Word and select a font =)
[17:23:46] <Jymmm> or any app and select a font
[17:23:56] <r00t4rd3d> no delay
[17:24:12] <Jymmm> Does it have a font preview ?
[17:24:17] <Jymmm> in the app
[17:24:20] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[17:24:37] <r00t4rd3d> doesnt slow it down at all
[17:24:38] <Jymmm> scroll half way down the list
[17:26:01] <r00t4rd3d> Ive had more then 8k installed before
[17:26:30] <Jymmm> Are you sure they are INSTALLED, or just on the hdd?
[17:27:12] <r00t4rd3d> if i get to many i play magical fonts folder and keep 1 for system fonts and 1 for work
[17:27:20] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: Actually if my arms joints were more flexible I could use the whole 8"x8" print area
[17:27:33] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d
[17:27:33] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: ah
[17:27:38] <ReadError> you got aspire 4?
[17:27:46] <r00t4rd3d> not yet
[17:28:00] <r00t4rd3d> my boats in the shop
[17:28:16] <ReadError> wut
[17:28:22] <r00t4rd3d> lol nothing
[17:28:52] <r00t4rd3d> they are being slow about sending 4.0 out
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[17:29:03] <r00t4rd3d> you get a email with a offer to upgrade
[17:31:32] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.3dsignforum.com
[17:32:01] <jdh> is your version upgradeable?
[17:32:44] <r00t4rd3d> not sure
[17:33:04] <r00t4rd3d> that forum is my new favorite forum
[17:33:39] <jdh> you've given up /r/midgetporn ?
[17:33:56] <Jymmm> lol, doubtful
[17:34:02] <ReadError> or pimpcats
[17:35:28] <tjb1> I love increasing sizes of period and commas
[17:35:40] <tjb1> 1/2 page increase by 2 size increase
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[17:40:18] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d
[17:40:22] <ReadError> did you cut the poem?
[17:41:56] <r00t4rd3d> not yet
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[17:42:15] <r00t4rd3d> i did it once but didnt like it
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[17:42:54] <r00t4rd3d> my machine hit a clamp and it fucked it up slightly
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[17:49:08] <tjb1> rookie
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[17:52:36] <r00t4rd3d> says the guy with the unfinished router who is now building a 3d printer but really just wants to play simcity 5
[17:53:36] <Jymmm> s/5/1/
[17:54:42] <r00t4rd3d> i got this wood grain effect down now i think
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[17:59:13] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[18:17:27] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/o9HDzac.jpg
[18:19:24] <r00t4rd3d> wish i had the money to build a 4x8 machine
[18:20:33] <IchGuckLive> the picture is from Blender ß
[18:20:47] <r00t4rd3d> no, aspire
[18:21:02] <IchGuckLive> r00t4rd3d: 4x8 inch or foot
[18:21:14] <IchGuckLive> or even meters
[18:21:28] <IchGuckLive> feet is not foot or
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[18:22:59] <IchGuckLive> r00t4rd3d: you are in the USA or
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[18:23:35] <IchGuckLive> as cnc-discount here in germany has so nice parts for ypour giand router
[18:23:39] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: I dont have a router
[18:23:45] <IchGuckLive> lowcost and good to go
[18:24:13] <r00t4rd3d> IchGuckLive, feet
[18:24:24] <IchGuckLive> i coudt make it on the plasma table as 2mx1,5m is posible to mill
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[18:25:25] <IchGuckLive> so it woudt fit
[18:26:07] <IchGuckLive> r00t4rd3d:
http://stores.ebay.de/cnc-discount/20-x-2500mm-/_i.html?_fsub=2678774013&_sid=1025469733&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
[18:26:19] <IchGuckLive> 8feet
[18:26:32] <IchGuckLive> <200euros
[18:26:54] <r00t4rd3d> thats like 400 us i think
[18:27:06] <IchGuckLive> times 1.34
[18:28:12] <r00t4rd3d> sadly i dont got 350 for a set of rails
[18:28:18] <IchGuckLive> 200 Euro = 260,2 US-Dollar
[18:28:28] <IchGuckLive> todays hour fair
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[18:30:01] <IchGuckLive> only the X the Y woudt bee 1600mm 5feet = 130EUR=172USD
[18:30:10] <IchGuckLive> and dont forget the Z
[18:31:09] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d works for free
[18:31:12] <IchGuckLive> on 600mm 2feet its 75Eur = 100USD
[18:31:50] <IchGuckLive> total rail 540USD O.O
[18:32:13] <IchGuckLive> chain to stepper n this size
[18:32:28] <IchGuckLive> 2steppers on X
[18:32:45] <IchGuckLive> or 1 at 12Nm
[18:33:02] <IchGuckLive> with a 50:1 gearbox 250Euros
[18:34:00] <IchGuckLive> 400steps times 50 =20000 Steps per rev so 200mm D0 for the chainweehl
[18:34:21] <IchGuckLive> http://maedler.de/
[18:35:53] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/2pcs-RM1605-1100mm-1250mm-2sets-SBR16-rails-2-couplers-8mm-X-10mm-/121032425283?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2e183f43
[18:36:00] <IchGuckLive> getting into Metric it is U=D0=TxZ
[18:36:38] <IchGuckLive> 200/8mm metric chain is 25Teeth
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[18:37:06] <IchGuckLive> http://maedler.de/Article/12512500 Doble chain 12 Euro etch
[18:37:41] <IchGuckLive> dicount at 10 pices as we need 9 10euros
[18:38:49] <IchGuckLive> r00t4rd3d: 8mm or 10mm on 1250 its very week i woudt go 20 or better 25mm
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[18:39:45] <IchGuckLive> 406USD is not cheep for this tiny parts
[18:40:53] <IchGuckLive> and the picture shows the Z but it not includet in the offer
[18:41:33] <IchGuckLive> and not the length you want
[18:42:08] <IchGuckLive> at the length beond 1500 you also cand go by ballscrew
[18:42:33] <IchGuckLive> i did once 2850mm by TR20x4
[18:42:57] <IchGuckLive> no way to get this in good speed and mounting as to long free movement
[18:43:51] <IchGuckLive> till 3m its on rack and pinion
[18:44:00] <IchGuckLive> beond only chain
[18:45:07] <IchGuckLive> i got a 7m axis running vertical in chain and the X is by steelrope
[18:45:18] <IchGuckLive> precise is below 1mm
[18:45:39] <IchGuckLive> how cars on foam 8mx10m
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[19:00:55] <IchGuckLive> r00t4rd3d: aspire is the freetrial on 30days or no g-code export ?
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[19:01:49] <IchGuckLive> motioncontrol: ?
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[19:08:03] <IchGuckLive> im off by
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[19:12:46] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/1Posuxr.gif
[19:13:56] <cradek> roof rakes are made for a reason
[19:14:26] <fragalot> yes because being at the bottom of that is much better
[19:16:58] <Loetmichel> r00t4rd3d: he is fallen into a soft surface... noting bad happened... and the roof is (half)free of snow... so all is good ;-)
[19:17:08] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/07/article-2289536-1873EA4C000005DC-975_634x591.jpg
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[19:17:18] <r00t4rd3d> dita in a 3d printed dress
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[19:18:27] <Connor> r00t4rd3d: That CAN'T be comfortable..
[19:19:41] <r00t4rd3d> looks like she has something under it
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[21:52:31] <andypugh> http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2013/03/06/cats-being-total-jerks-for-no-apparent-reason/
[21:59:03] <r00t4rd3d> I made this stupid box today:
http://i.imgur.com/dhQ5Cst.jpg
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[22:10:41] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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