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[00:26:21] <Valen> ahh man
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[01:51:07] <AR_> http://i.imgur.com/m6zaW00.jpg
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[01:51:09] <AR_> almost
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[01:52:14] <ReadError> nice
[01:52:21] <ReadError> the taig spindle probably made things much easier
[01:52:59] <AR_> yes
[01:53:01] <AR_> definitely
[01:53:02] <AR_> lo
[01:53:03] <AR_> l
[01:55:14] <ReadError> how you going to attach the motors to the axis?
[01:55:17] <ReadError> tjb1, ;(
[01:55:24] <tjb1> ?
[01:55:34] <ReadError> got my parts
[01:55:37] <ReadError> but didnt know
[01:55:39] <AR_> i have some steel L-brackets that fit my motors
[01:55:43] <ReadError> extrusions are coming from the vendor ;/
[01:55:49] <tjb1> heh
[01:55:50] <AR_> X and Y is easy
[01:55:51] <ReadError> so im building up what i can
[01:55:55] <ReadError> so im kinda butthurt
[01:55:56] <AR_> not sure how i'm doing my Z motor yet
[01:56:24] <ReadError> you can make a thick aluminum motor mount
[01:56:28] <ReadError> and use some big standoffs
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[01:57:04] <AR_> i would really like to put another pulley on the Z to belt drive it
[01:57:10] <AR_> because the Z screw is like 1 TPI
[01:57:15] <AR_> which kindof sucks
[01:57:28] <AR_> but not sure yet. It is really smooth
[01:57:32] <AR_> it might be ok
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[02:00:17] <tjb1> JT-Shop: You here?
[02:04:23] <tjb1> jthornton: ?
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[03:36:26] <tjtr33> if your M1xx files are python scripts... this can manipulate i/o 'subprocess.call("halcmd sets yoursignal yourvalue", shell=True)'
[03:36:27] <tjtr33> http://pastebin.com/k6vF39th
[03:36:31] <tjb1> Anyone know where I can buy a case for a 1" dial indicator?
[03:44:53] <jdh> for storage?
[03:45:51] <jdh> I leave mine on the bases and stick them on the back of my toolbox
[03:54:27] <AR_> that's fine
[03:54:55] <AR_> you'll get a case and never bother putting it away anyway
[03:55:27] <ReadError> i actually throw my cases out
[03:55:31] <ReadError> since i know i wont use em
[03:55:39] <ReadError> ;)
[03:55:40] <AR_> lol
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[05:28:13] <tjtr33> will hostmot2 allow reading from 7i87 to a 5i20? (I seem to read it can give 8 channels of 12bit ADC at 10 kHz?)
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[07:44:48] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[09:32:59] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[13:43:52] <mrsun> gah cant get the feed down enough on the lathe to get a nice finnish on stuff :(
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[13:46:59] <mrsun> even tho the nose radius on the tool is quite large i get something like a very fine pitched thread :/
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[14:08:54] <archivist_herron> some have flat ish front to rub /flatten
[14:09:29] <johncc3> Hi all. Strange problem: I write to the parallel port (outb-style), and a fraction of a second later it gets reset to 0 by another program
[14:10:04] <skunkworks> Is linuxcnc running?
[14:10:12] <johncc3> I removed all system modules relating to the parallel port, and stopped CUPS too.
[14:10:22] <johncc3> No program is running at all
[14:10:27] <skunkworks> oh
[14:10:57] <johncc3> Well, not exactly. I wrote a small program to get access to the parport, just to check this
[14:11:25] <johncc3> I have the impression that some program is resetting the parport about twice per second
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[14:13:45] <skunkworks> johncc3, you did this?
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?NewRTInstall
[14:14:00] <skunkworks> sudo rmmod lp
[14:15:03] <johncc3> Already removed lp, ppdev, parport, and some others related.
[14:15:26] <skunkworks> well - you are above my pay grade then...
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[14:21:04] <frallzor> ahoyhoy
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[15:43:43] <frallzor> you yanks in here, got any nice tips on them nice old cinema signs and where to look for inspiration for one? =)
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[15:49:23] <L84Supper> frallzor: by"cinema signs" do you mean the giant outdoor sign with the name of the cinema on it? or movie posters?
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[15:50:30] <frallzor> the giant outdoor sign
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[15:54:06] <L84Supper> http://www.signmuseum.org/
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[15:55:28] <frallzor> well the cost of going over to the states to visit that place doesnt motivate med =P
[15:55:32] <frallzor> * me
[15:55:52] <L84Supper> do you want to buy one?
[15:56:03] <frallzor> nope, make one
[15:56:15] <L84Supper> looking for inspiration?
[15:56:16] <frallzor> want a new sign for le home cinema
[15:56:18] <frallzor> yes
[15:56:45] <frallzor> that special 50s style, streamlined signs
[16:00:10] <L84Supper> google images for vintage cinema signs
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[16:22:15] <JT-Shop> for a RIP can you use a script to launch with?
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[16:29:47] <dgarr> example:
http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/rip.sh
[16:30:01] <JT-Shop> hi dgarr
[16:30:08] <dgarr> hey
[16:30:24] <JT-Shop> the page opens then closes
[16:30:54] <JT-Shop> oh I see it is a file
[16:31:02] <dgarr> probably because your browser wont open an executable, get it with wget would work
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[16:31:38] <JT-Shop> ok, it downloaded it but I'm not used to chrome so it fooled me
[16:33:33] <dgarr> http://www.panix.com/~dgarrett/stuff/rip.txt probably opens in window
[16:33:57] <JT-Shop> thanks
[16:34:11] <dgarr> np
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[16:35:25] <dgarr> you could make multiple scripts with different names for different ini files too of course
[16:38:36] <JT-Shop> cool
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[16:45:09] <JT-Shop> dgarr: I noticed that gremlin didn't show the back plot from pyngcgui but it does when you load a file
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[17:04:31] <tjb1> JT-Shop: You ever cut aluminum on your table?
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[17:12:41] <ReadError> sup guys
[17:12:53] <ReadError> anyone ever cut with this style endmill?
[17:12:54] <ReadError> http://www.ebay.com/itm/150942668212?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[17:15:34] <syyl_ws> yep
[17:15:43] <syyl_ws> 10mm fibreglass
[17:15:56] <ReadError> yea thats what im using it on
[17:16:03] <ReadError> something like fiberglass....g10
[17:16:15] <ReadError> i assume i should use a higher spindle speed right?
[17:16:40] <skunkworks> yum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHEpjiI1ZO0
[17:16:46] <syyl_ws> used about 40k rpm..
[17:17:23] <ReadError> they hold up pretty good?
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[17:17:51] <syyl_ws> i had diamond coated ones
[17:17:59] <syyl_ws> they held up very good
[17:18:07] <syyl_ws> few houndred metres of engagement
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[17:18:37] <ReadError> is there any type of plugin i could use that keeps track of tool usage?
[17:18:48] <ReadError> if not that would be pretty cool
[17:19:20] <syyl_ws> http://www.datron.de/en/products/millingtools/product-range/micro-toothed-end-mills.html
[17:19:24] <tjb1> ReadError: A piece of paper
[17:19:58] <syyl_ws> that are our endmills that we use on that stuff
[17:20:04] <syyl_ws> the diamond coated ones
[17:20:14] <ReadError> oh these are much cheaper :)
[17:20:27] <ReadError> tjb1: yea, thats possible as well
[17:20:41] <ReadError> it would just be a neat stat and way to keep track of them though
[17:20:57] <ReadError> figured there would be some industrial use for it
[17:21:02] <tjb1> excel :P
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[19:28:29] <JesusAlos> hi
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[19:41:51] <JT-Shop> tjb1: maybe once
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[20:09:46] <JT-Shop> how do you run a MDI command in touchy?
[20:10:14] * frallzor touches JT-Shop
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[20:13:16] <cradek> JT-Shop: poke the mdi tab, poke G, 1, next, 0, poke cycle start => runs G0X1
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[20:13:40] <cradek> JT-Shop: if it's not obvious, it's a bug
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[20:23:57] <JT-Shop> sure fooled me, I got G0 X0 etc... do you mean the physical start button?
[20:24:40] <cradek> I don't understand what you mean
[20:24:53] <cradek> yes you push the button to execute the mdi command
[20:25:30] <JT-Shop> ok, I was looking on the GUI for something to run the MDI
[20:26:35] <JT-Shop> got my mind right now
[20:26:43] <cradek> heh
[20:27:09] <Tom_itx> what's german time right now?
[20:27:26] <Tom_itx> 9pm?
[20:27:31] <alex_joni> 21
[20:27:44] <JT-Shop> 7 hours later or so
[20:27:52] <ReadError> +6 EST
[20:28:01] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: later than what?
[20:28:20] <JT-Shop> later than the german time here
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[20:29:34] <Tom_itx> i get 9:29pm
[20:29:51] <ReadError> yup
[20:30:04] <ReadError> i actually had this question yesterday to some other germans
[20:30:11] <ReadError> always thought it was more than 6hrs
[20:30:13] <tjb1> JT-Shop: what kind of edge finish?
[20:37:13] <JT-Shop> don't remember
[20:40:09] <alex_joni> before plotters:
http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2013/01/21/dad-spends-7-years-on-incredibly-detailed-maze/
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[21:01:13] <skunkworks> I did update the bios also
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[21:09:37] <mrsun> man cast iron was amazing to work with int he lathe .. pitty its so dirty :P
[21:15:16] <alex_joni> heh:
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7056017408/h2ED32DDA/
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[21:17:34] <Jymmm> alex_joni: a present from you?
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[21:19:43] <alex_joni> Jymmm: heh, no
[21:19:52] <Jymmm> =)
[21:21:27] <andypugh> I need lathe roughing cycles!
[21:21:33] <frallzor> one of my friends did the same to his younger brother once
[21:21:34] <andypugh> Any suggestions of alternatives?
[21:21:45] <frallzor> filles a glass with colored water and a note "this is pee"
[21:22:20] <andypugh> WetVac
[21:23:09] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[21:23:15] <andypugh> Back to the CNC stuff, I am wanting to make some metal-spinning forms. Not sure how to make the G-code
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[21:29:43] <dgarr> andypugh: woodlathe
[21:30:12] <andypugh> dgarr: I need two parts to fit inside each other.
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[21:30:44] <andypugh> I will spin by hand, but intend to make the forms with CNC
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[21:30:59] <dgarr> woodlathe and practice then
[21:31:11] <dgarr> :P
[21:31:29] <Jymmm> pocket knife and hand held cordless drill lathe
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[21:32:15] <frallzor> Jymmmy Seinfeld!
[21:32:34] <andypugh> dgarr: Might get expensive in metal blanks, iteratively re-shaping the forms.
[21:33:29] <andypugh> I don't see what your objection is to me CNC machining the formers. This is a CNC channel, after all.
[21:35:30] <andypugh> Maybe I will just write the profile as G-code then just approach the blank, cutting mainly air, most of the time.
[21:37:05] <JT-Shop> just make straight cuts to remove the excess material
[21:37:24] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Yes, but, straight cuts to _where_
[21:37:44] <JT-Shop> well do you have a cad drawing of the part?
[21:37:54] <andypugh> I guess I could do it with graph-paper, but that seems stupid
[21:38:17] <andypugh> Yes, I have a CAD drawing.
[21:38:19] <JT-Shop> offset the part some amount and draw straight lines and trim to the offset line
[21:38:39] <JT-Shop> then you have the Z stop point for each depth
[21:39:40] <andypugh> Did I mention this is 220mm dia?
[21:40:50] <andypugh> Has anyone managed to make the Inkscape gcodetools add-in make lathe code?
[21:42:16] <JT-Shop> what is the shape?
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[21:47:14] <andypugh> http://imagebin.org/246745
[21:48:27] <JT-Shop> break the roughing down to blocks and you can get most of it roughed out then run your profile a few times to clean up
[21:49:35] <andypugh> I guess so. I was just hoping someone had written a CAM program since last time I looked.
[21:50:03] <andypugh> (Or had written the roughing cycles that keep being discussed)
[21:50:08] <JT-Shop> I use ngcgui with a sub on my lathe to step over a profile
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[21:51:28] <andypugh> Sounds like I am not allowed to use ngcgui :-)
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[22:00:37] <JT-Shop> because of your accent?
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[22:03:51] <andypugh> JT-Shop: dgarr wanted me to use a wood lathe and hand tools.
[22:04:40] <Tom_itx> andypugh do you need some gcode done?
[22:05:06] <JT-Shop> andypugh: sounds like fun
[22:05:08] <andypugh> I am seeing if I can persuade Inkscape to do the job.
[22:05:21] <JT-Shop> my cam only does mill... so I can't convert it for you
[22:06:18] <Tom_itx> i got a lathe package but i haven't used it. i tried one thing for jt to see what it would do
[22:06:23] <andypugh> JT-Shop: It is, and I have spent many happy hours on a wood lathe making bits of furniture, newel posts, etc. But this job calls for more precision.
[22:06:51] <Tom_itx> i could do it given the parameters you need
[22:06:58] <Tom_itx> i think
[22:07:27] <Tom_itx> i just don't have much experience with my lathe package since i only did mill on it
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[22:07:33] <JT-Shop> you could just step the profile over till your done
[22:07:35] <Tom_itx> we mdi'd all the lathe stuff
[22:07:39] <Tom_itx> yeah
[22:07:47] <Tom_itx> getting the right tool and tool offset etc
[22:07:54] <Tom_itx> but i think i mostly figured that out
[22:08:02] <Tom_itx> he could tweak the feed and speed
[22:13:00] <Tom_itx> andypugh, give me a 2d flat pattern and i'll spit out some code for ya
[22:13:20] <Tom_itx> offset from zero, just halfround is all i need
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[22:32:16] * JT-Shop is using Touchy-Gremlin-Ngcgui GUI on the BP :)
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[22:41:00] <Tom_itx> ok it's not liking that lemme try it a different way
[22:41:15] <Tom_itx> solidworks brought it in ok though
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[22:44:04] <Tom_itx> all i get in the lathe package though is the section AA arrows
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[22:48:12] <Tom_itx> andypugh,
[22:48:27] <Tom_itx> can you save just the inner profile of each one in separate files?
[22:48:43] <andypugh> I can try...
[22:48:48] <Tom_itx> you just want it to fit the inside right?
[22:49:11] <Tom_itx> i'm working on it, problem is getting it into my old lathe package
[22:49:18] <Tom_itx> but i've dealt with that befroe
[22:49:20] <Tom_itx> before
[22:56:46] <andypugh> It seems that I might have sent you two duff files, as importing them in to Inkscape seems to indiacte that the disabled layers are still there.
[22:58:51] <Tom_itx> i'm working on it as well
[22:59:06] <Tom_itx> getting it to an old format is the trick
[22:59:43] <Tom_itx> try iges as well
[22:59:52] <Tom_itx> maybe i can work with that easier
[23:00:07] <andypugh> IGES is 3D isn't it?
[23:00:16] <Tom_itx> i got this into acad and maybe i can save what i need to the cam program
[23:00:25] <andypugh> That might be tricky, as I want the inner profile, not the modelled part.
[23:00:48] <Tom_itx> i know
[23:01:30] <Tom_itx> supper..
[23:01:30] <andypugh> I can send a DWG, that should have the required profiles in layes all to themselves?
[23:01:30] <Tom_itx> i'll take whatever you send and work with it
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[23:06:18] <Tom_itx> andypugh, also what size block are you starting with?
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[23:07:24] <andypugh> 2" thick disc of about the right diameter.
[23:07:32] <Tom_itx> k
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[23:13:26] <Tom_itx> andypugh, where do you normally set zero?
[23:13:54] <Tom_itx> we'll say 2" out in z and centerline
[23:14:23] <Tom_itx> well i'll need to convert to metric so that will change
[23:14:37] <andypugh> Normally X zero is centreline, and Z zero is the rightmost surface (so all Z cuts are in negative space)
[23:15:09] <Tom_itx> k so the material OD and the centerline
[23:15:22] <Tom_itx> err no
[23:15:27] <Tom_itx> rightmost being the face of the block
[23:15:53] <Tom_itx> i'll give you all that once i actually get it in the cad
[23:17:25] <Tom_itx> too many distractions here to think right at the moment
[23:19:18] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: LOOK!!!! Shiny thing
[23:21:35] <JT-Shop> cncbasher: you tried the latest touchy pyngcgui gremlin GUI?
[23:21:41] <andypugh> It looks like Inkscape Gcodetools might work, if I could figure it out.
[23:21:58] <JT-Shop> if you figure it out teach us how
[23:23:03] <Tom_itx> andypugh, how deep a cut do you like to take?
[23:23:28] <andypugh> I don't know, I am using modelboard for the first time.
[23:23:42] <andypugh> Lets say 0.75mm?
[23:23:50] <Tom_itx> ok
[23:23:54] <andypugh> (It's a weedy lathe)
[23:24:11] <Tom_itx> we can adjust that if necessary
[23:24:17] <andypugh> It _looks_ like Gcodetools can work:
http://www.mycncuk.com/forums/attachments/g-code-corner/2843d1282636213-free-cam-inkscape-0089-gcode-tools-lathe-emc-screenshot.png
[23:24:20] <Tom_itx> if it doesn't cut right etc
[23:24:39] <andypugh> But I have no idea how they produced that output :-)
[23:24:49] <Tom_itx> i knew i should have spent more time on this lathe package
[23:25:01] <Tom_itx> we just never used it
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[23:26:42] <cncbasher> JT-Shop:not yet
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[23:27:38] <JT-Shop> I've got it working on the BP mill with the touch screen
[23:29:07] <andypugh> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jYKMAjzK3A Is interesting, but no help with Lathe-mode
[23:30:40] <JT-Shop> cncbasher: when you finalize a sub it sends you right to gremlin so you can view the sub it is cool
[23:30:58] <Tom_itx> i hope i don't have to revert back to my DOS version !
[23:32:21] <Tom_itx> aarg, i still only get the cross seciton points
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[23:37:50] <cncbasher> JT-Shop:yea cool
[23:38:18] <cncbasher> it's becoming late here to try anything now , i'll run it in the morning
[23:41:54] <Tom_itx> andypugh can you save them as iges?
[23:42:31] <andypugh> Isn't IGES 3D?
[23:42:42] <Tom_itx> yeah that probably won't work either
[23:43:17] <Tom_itx> all i get in my cam package is the sectional arrows
[23:43:29] <Tom_itx> what layer is it on?
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[23:45:54] <L84Supper> IGES is most certainly 3d
[23:46:54] <andypugh> Tom_itx: The layers are "Outer" and "Inner"
[23:50:54] <andypugh> Inkscape / Gcodetools is getting annoyingly close:
http://imagebin.org/246754
[23:51:46] <skunkworks> wow - enough decimal places?
[23:52:41] <Tom_itx> hell of it is, i can see it in solidworks and acad but can't get it into the cad cam
[23:52:42] <L84Supper> sub angstrom resolution, nudged quanta
[23:53:43] * JT-Shop hates making countersunk holes :(
[23:54:46] <Valen> hey andypugh
[23:54:52] <Valen> been meaning to talk to you
[23:55:09] <Valen> I'm seriously thinking about getting some DMM-Tech drives
[23:55:23] <andypugh> Oh?
[23:55:28] <Valen> yeah
[23:55:44] <Valen> tossing up between the 750W and the smaller ones
[23:55:55] <Valen> the 750W ones have rather more inertia though
[23:56:06] <Valen> the smaller ones are $800 cheaper for the set we need
[23:56:16] <Valen> but do need a 48v dc power supply?
[23:57:02] <andypugh> How do you intend to control them?
[23:57:29] <andypugh> I think that only the Dyn3H drive is analogue voltage / LinuxCNC compatible.
[23:57:56] <andypugh> The smaller drives are step/dir and have no quadrature output for LinuxCNC
[23:59:15] <Valen> oh
[23:59:23] <Valen> well that makes a bigger difference
[23:59:39] <Valen> the tossup is these, or a kelig setup
[23:59:59] <Valen> I keep getting accelerations of like 3G for out router
