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[00:19:54] <JT-Shop> I don't respond well to "i want instructions in ENGLISH on how to install from scratch in the right directory a version of linux cnc that supports and will display both ends of the wire and the wire strung between."
[00:20:07] <JT-Shop> and "Please no spamming and no bumping lets keep this a clean post for future users so they can use use this as a guide. "
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[00:35:01] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, i just ordered 2 extended carriages :/
[00:36:05] <Valen> both ends of the wire?
[00:36:06] <Valen> huh
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[00:36:40] <paul_liebenberg> Hey everyone, rewired my limit switch with shielded wire - problems seem to be resolved!
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[00:39:22] <JT-Shop> yea!
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[00:54:33] <Jymmm> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoe5Vjl90-o
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[00:58:09] <r00t4rd3d> if you have a d525
[00:58:11] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Z-U130-Value-Solid-State-Drive-2GB-SSD-USB-/121059885436?pt=US_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item1c2fbb417c
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[01:00:56] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Z-U130-Value-Solid-State-Drive-1GB-USB-2-0-embedded-interface-54-/380565526640?pt=US_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item589b791870
[01:01:08] <r00t4rd3d> 1gb for 6 bucks
[01:03:49] <Valen> beh usb though
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[01:08:24] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: ni d
[01:08:26] <tjb1> *ncie
[01:19:18] <r00t4rd3d> im going bigger
[01:19:38] <r00t4rd3d> gonna use my current x stuff for my y and my y stuff for my z
[01:19:56] <r00t4rd3d> 3'x4'
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[01:21:13] <r00t4rd3d> then i should have enough space to engrave your mothers portrait like you wanted.
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[01:24:30] <r00t4rd3d> i just bought that 2gb ssd
[01:25:01] <r00t4rd3d> 13 bucks :D
[01:27:34] <r00t4rd3d> hopefully I can squeeze 10.04 on it.
[01:29:00] <Valen> be tight
[01:29:07] <Valen> i suggest a lightweight distro
[01:30:22] <r00t4rd3d> puppy emc2
[01:30:35] <r00t4rd3d> ubuntu comes with a lot of garbage though
[01:31:01] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.cuteminds.com/index.php/en/puppy
[01:31:05] <r00t4rd3d> 50meg :D
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[01:38:03] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, now in Henderson KY, and at local Tractor Supply store, they have cans of 'Git-R-Done' at the checkout :) like a shoe polish can, no idea whats inside. The Cable Guy is on the cover.
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[01:46:35] <Jymmm> tjtr33: They have Larry The Cable Guy spaghetti, salsa, and Mac and Cheese too
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[02:32:17] <Connor> Anyone know of a good source for a 5C spindle ?
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[02:49:35] <r00t4rd3d> anyone else use time warner?
[02:49:37] <r00t4rd3d> http://consumerist.com/2013/01/30/time-warner-boosts-my-speed-cuts-my-bill-i-just-happen-to-live-near-google-fiber/
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[03:53:32] <r00t4rd3d> so i won a visa dispute and got a charge back
[03:53:36] <r00t4rd3d> 01/30/2013 Visa Chargeback $316.83
[03:53:58] <r00t4rd3d> so then I spend it.
[03:54:06] <r00t4rd3d> then....
[03:54:09] <r00t4rd3d> 01/30/2013 Hold funds for Chargeback processing $-316.83
[03:55:44] <r00t4rd3d> Available Cash $-315.96
[03:55:48] <r00t4rd3d> bastards
[03:58:10] <Connor> What?
[03:58:15] <Connor> What did they do?
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[03:58:54] <ReadError> anyone know of some buildlogs for a 24x48" router ?
[03:59:51] <Connor> go look at cnczone.com
[04:00:08] <Connor> they have ALL kinds of build logs under the DIY Router section
[04:00:28] <ReadError> did they finally remove all the malware?
[04:00:52] <Connor> As far as I know. I never had a issue with it. I use Chrome.. never had anything happen
[04:01:26] <ReadError> nah but for a while, google flagged them
[04:01:44] <Connor> not flagged any more.
[04:01:49] <ReadError> so if you went to visit it, it would say site known to distribute malware
[04:11:51] <r00t4rd3d> that happens once every 6 months or so
[04:12:18] <r00t4rd3d> probably from links in peoples signatures which since has been disabled.
[04:12:29] <r00t4rd3d> no more html in sig code
[04:16:47] <r00t4rd3d> iranian space monkey
[04:16:48] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/onDClkZ.jpg
[04:20:56] <r00t4rd3d> hmm, reading thats the image they took after it returned :/
[04:22:52] <Valen> that monkey does not look happy
[04:23:08] <Valen> all the animal people will be up in arms over that
[04:23:42] <Valen> handily forgetting all the worse things USA and USSR did when they were playing in the shallow edge of the pool
[04:23:45] <r00t4rd3d> just about every country that has rockets has launched animals into space
[04:24:23] <Valen> it seems though rather pointless these days
[04:24:24] <r00t4rd3d> America sent a golden retriever
[04:24:31] <Valen> i mean for a "we can do it" mission
[04:24:50] <Valen> if your actually doing something then ok
[04:25:13] <Valen> but i'll wager everything that monkey did a phone could have done and probably beter
[04:25:14] <Valen> better
[04:27:04] <r00t4rd3d> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_in_space
[04:28:32] <r00t4rd3d> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/Ham_Retreival_GPN-2000-001004.jpg
[04:28:40] <r00t4rd3d> american space monkey after recovery
[04:59:52] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: What's the orange thing you're wearing? A diaper?
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[05:47:31] <r00t4rd3d> the condom your mom insists i wear
[05:48:49] <r00t4rd3d> she says she has gonorrhea but I dont care, love her.
[05:49:16] <Jymmm> fucking/talking to the dead huh?
[05:49:50] <r00t4rd3d> play with the trolls and you might get bridged.
[05:52:31] <r00t4rd3d> im sure the monkey is dead too.
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[06:19:36] <tjb1> Jymmm: Get that done yet?
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[06:24:18] <Jymmm> tjb1: "that" "it" 'those" "them" means nothing without context.
[06:24:34] <tjb1> The gas tank you have been pissing around with for a month :)
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[06:24:59] <Jymmm> working on it now
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[06:26:38] <Jymmm> you need one of these
http://www.etoolcart.com/gastankfuelpumpremovaltool.aspx
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[06:46:15] <Connor> okay, so, does anyone know of any servo drivers that work with linuxcnc that let linuxcnc stay in the PID loop? hopefully not the really expensive ones..
[06:49:20] <archivist> home made ones :)
[06:49:57] <Connor> Yea, I'm thinking that's about it.. maybe a heavy duty H-Bridge and drive it via PWM..
[06:50:27] <Connor> Would have prefered that for my Spindle controller vs the KBCC-R
[06:50:53] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[06:52:48] <archivist> connor for an example of really cheap look at
http://axis.unpythonic.net/etchcnc
[06:53:44] <Connor> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipment-6V-90V-15A-Pulse-Width-PWM-DC-Motor-Speed-Controller-Switch/678526084.html
[06:54:03] <archivist> Connor, and the servo update
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/projects/01142347802
[06:55:49] <Connor> Hmm... Maybe not...
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[06:55:59] <Connor> that has a pot.. not sure it takes PWM in ??
[06:57:42] <Jymmm> It's like THIS |<----------------------------------------------->| for out of reach to insert he fuel line release tool all the way
[06:57:52] <Jymmm> s/for/far/
[06:58:24] <Jymmm> s/he/the/
[06:58:27] <archivist> Connor, look at my second link which is the servo upgrade to it
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/projects/01142347802
[06:58:41] * Jymmm needs a 12" midget
[06:59:21] <Connor> archivist: I'm needing one that can do around 90v at 13.5amps.
[07:00:30] <archivist> you can make if you have the skills
[07:00:53] <archivist> a speed controller is not a servo driver though
[07:01:01] <Connor> I don't have a issue with making one.. I can follow a schematic.
[07:01:16] <Connor> just hoping to find something already done..
[07:01:50] <archivist> skunkworks, was developing one but then found some cheap on fleabay
[07:01:52] <Connor> wouldn't think it would be hard to find a servo driver that can do 90v at 13 or so amps that works in velocity(speed) mode that doesn't cost so damn much
[07:03:15] <archivist> but for best servo control you do need some form of fpga card
[07:03:52] <archivist> because the encoder signals are too fast for the parallel port direct
[07:04:24] <Connor> yea. Was going to use mesa.
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[07:17:15] <archivist> Connor, this was a skunkworks test
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/ampmessagain.jpg, he has circuits in the directory too somewhere
[07:19:20] <archivist> like
http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/eaglesch.JPG but ask him when around for status
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[07:56:34] <DJ9DJ> moin
[07:58:09] <Jymmm> $20 cash to anyone that can remove this last fuel line in the next 20m WITHOUT damaging anything
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[08:12:06] <DJ9DJ> hola Jymmm
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[08:29:01] <Jymmm> ok, 99.999% from removing the fuel pump!
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[09:16:06] <Jymmm> It's out and on my bench!!!!!!!
[09:16:35] <archivist> at this point you find it is the external wiring at fault
[09:16:59] <Jymmm> external to where?
[09:17:03] <Jymmm> the harness?
[09:17:09] <archivist> :)
[09:17:26] <Jymmm> Yeah, Murphy is a dead man when I catch him =)
[09:17:42] <Jymmm> But.... I made sure that was NOT the case in this instanance....
[09:18:04] <Jymmm> 1) I checked the hharness at the last connector.... 12V
[09:18:24] <Jymmm> 2) I hit the pump directly with 12V from the battery, nada
[09:18:28] <archivist> I took a gearbox out once, was a siezed bush out side the box on the selector mechanism no need to take the box to bits at all
[09:18:57] <Jymmm> I got lucky... I did NOT have to drop the tank
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[09:20:05] <Jymmm> If you drop the spare tire, there is actually enough room to remove the fuel pump/sender assembly just above it.
[09:20:31] <Jymmm> This should be the same for Expedition, Navigator, and maybe F-150 series
[09:20:39] <Jymmm> Mine is 2001
[09:21:29] <Jymmm> Actually, there's enough room up there to smuggle someone it they're small enough
[09:23:22] <Jymmm> archivist: Now, watch the fucking pump I got today be the wrong one. It already smells of gasoline (used or factory tested?), suppose to be NEW
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[10:14:35] <Jymmm> archivist: Ok, tested both pump with a 9V battery... Old one WANTS to turn, but can't. New one spins like a lil jet engine.
[10:20:49] <archivist> remove turd jamming the old one
[10:30:49] <Jymmm> heh
[10:31:10] <Jymmm> Crap, the strainer I received is 3x SMALLER than the original one.
[10:31:46] <Jymmm> there's a great way to fubar a new pump
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[12:33:10] <jthornton> failed
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[12:59:22] * mrsun has ground his first drill bit! not the best grind, getting different size chips and 0.5mm oversized hole but :P
[12:59:31] <mrsun> need to make a gage or something =)
[13:01:56] <mrsun> guage
[13:01:57] <mrsun> ? :P
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[13:06:16] <archivist> make sure you get the angle balanced side to side, also the lip length the same
[13:06:53] <archivist> we used to fiddle the lip length to get an in between size
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[13:13:23] <mrsun> archivist, yeah but hard to measure without a guage
[13:13:41] <mrsun> atleast it cut like butter compared to the broken off corners etc it had before
[13:13:45] <mrsun> was realy torn up
[13:14:05] <mrsun> and the hole size is there to be sloppy for adjustment so =)
[13:14:18] <mrsun> no problem that it got bigger, have to train on this tho, drillbits are expensive =)
[13:15:47] <archivist> if close to size hand stone to adjust the short sid a bit
[13:16:06] <mrsun> oh =)
[13:16:12] <Loetmichel> mrsun: a trained grinder needs no gauge ;-)
[13:16:24] <mrsun> Loetmichel, well this is the first time for me :P
[13:16:30] <jthornton> there are a couple of good vidoes out there on hand sharpening bits
[13:16:32] <mrsun> and im sure that the trained grinders had one to begin with also :P
[13:16:33] * archivist giggles at the term trained
[13:16:58] * Loetmichel had used tha drill grinding as a "relax time" in his apprentice-time.
[13:17:43] <Loetmichel> whenever oi had no drve to do may regular wort i had broken ean drill bita and asked the boss "i have to regrind it, can i?"
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[13:28:34] <skunkworks> seb_kuzm1nsky,
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/trade_shows_events/172757-cnc_workshop_colorado.html
[13:29:01] <skunkworks> kinda expensive... I like that the picture looks like a wood lathe...
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[14:10:16] <cradek> enco currently has the rare 15% off plus free shipping deal
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[14:22:22] <skunkworks> ends friday!!
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[15:31:34] <seb_kuzm1nsky> skunkworks: thanks for the pointer!
[15:38:44] <cradek> if only I needed something, now would be a good time to get it.
[15:38:48] <jdh> anyone have an estimate of how fast a cheap chinese 40w co2 laser can cut 0.25" acrylic type stuff?
[15:39:15] <jdh> I was at a vendor site yesterday. They had a well worn Enco mill sitting next to a Haas
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[15:46:26] <seb_kuzm1nsky> i'm converting an enco g0704 from manual to cnc with some friends at the hackspace
[15:46:46] <seb_kuzm1nsky> they're all 3d printer people venturing into machining for the first time
[15:46:50] <jdh> grizzly g0704?
[15:46:54] <seb_kuzm1nsky> yeah
[15:47:02] <seb_kuzm1nsky> that's what i meant ;-)
[15:47:21] <seb_kuzm1nsky> it's interesting how different their view is on what constitutes a useful cad drawing
[15:47:29] <seb_kuzm1nsky> they're used to just "make an stl and hit print"
[15:47:46] <seb_kuzm1nsky> no worries about setups & work holding, tool choice, order of operations...
[15:48:03] <jdh> work holding is my biggest problem.
[15:48:49] <cradek> unfortunately that looks like a pretty poor machine for cnc
[15:49:01] <cradek> are you changing the screws or just sticking motors on it?
[15:49:13] <seb_kuzm1nsky> we can't aford new screws :-/
[15:49:16] <seb_kuzm1nsky> afford
[15:50:04] <seb_kuzm1nsky> cradek: iirc i once considered converting a sieg x2, whcih is even less suited to it!
[15:50:07] <jdh> I paid $199 for chinese screws for mine.
[15:50:34] <seb_kuzm1nsky> jdh: wow, that's cheap! ballscrews and nuts, or just ballscrews?
[15:50:50] <jdh> machined ballscrews & nuts
[15:50:57] <cradek> I converted a sherline lathe, and it actually works pretty well
[15:51:00] <seb_kuzm1nsky> hmmmm, got a link?
[15:51:14] <jdh> I could send you the guys email
[15:51:30] <seb_kuzm1nsky> jdh: please do, i'm seb at highlab.com
[15:51:37] <seb_kuzm1nsky> well, got to go, see you all later
[15:52:50] <jdh> sent
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[15:54:49] <jdh> it's still a G0704, it is what it is. Not a 'real' machining center, but I have less than $2k in it for all new stuff.
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[16:13:06] <seb_kuzm1nsky> jdh: thanks!!
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[16:16:40] <jdh> certainly.
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[16:20:57] <r00t4rd3d> i came this > < close to buying a g540 last night
[16:22:49] <jdh> how close is that?
[16:22:53] <jdh> one click away?
[16:30:01] <JT-Shop> what the heck are these popups that firefox is adding to web pages now with underlined words with a link to some crap
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[16:31:49] <JT-Shop> ha I found it
[16:32:25] <JT-Shop> crumb nope
[16:32:28] <JT-Shop> it's back
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[16:33:32] <JT-Shop> opera don't do it so it is a firefox thing
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[16:49:08] <frallzor> ahoyhoy
[16:49:44] <frallzor> decided that Ill keep my old profiles from the 2.3.5 install, but now the Q is, what does one need to backup to save all?
[16:50:41] <jdh> your ~/linuxcnc and/or ~/emc2
[16:51:25] <frallzor> isnt there profiles folder or similar?
[16:52:44] <jdh> there is a config directory under the above
[16:53:33] <frallzor> cant one just backup that then?
[16:54:31] <jdh> ok
[16:54:36] <frallzor> on the desktop I have a folder named after my profiles
[16:54:56] <frallzor> that isnt in any of the above folders
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[16:57:32] <frallzor> oh hell, ill take both, so i wont miss anything
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[16:59:14] <frallzor> stepconf and the rest is there, seems its all one ned
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[17:01:08] <frallzor> new question regarding linux in general, how come my bootable usb with the new dist works on one computer, but not the one im using for emc? =P
[17:03:30] <jdh> how does it fail to work?
[17:03:48] <frallzor> "boot error"
[17:03:55] <frallzor> but booted fine on this computer
[17:05:06] <jdh> dunno. only problem I've ever had was not enabling 'boot from usb' in the BIOS setup.
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[17:07:07] <frallzor> since it errors it reads it atleast
[17:07:33] <frallzor> maybe I setup the usb the wrong way
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[17:14:46] <JT-Shop> me/ uninstalls firefox from this computer
[17:15:08] <anonimasu> mhm, another full day of swapping parts -_-
[17:16:06] <jdh> me/ hands JT a copy of Chrome
[17:17:57] <skunkworks> JT-Shop, are you going to make an anouncemnt on the forum?
[17:18:10] <JT-Shop> not to use firefox?
[17:18:57] <skunkworks> well- to attach files...
[17:19:36] <JT-Shop> I thought jepler found a simple fix?
[17:19:49] <skunkworks> I don't think it has been applied yet
[17:19:58] <skunkworks> so maybe wait
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[17:20:48] <anonimasu> part swap time again...
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[17:21:28] <JT-Shop> jdh: why does chrome want you to log in?
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[17:22:28] <jdh> so you can share bookmarks and open tabs between computers
[17:22:36] <JT-Shop> ok
[17:22:41] <jdh> or, so google can better track you to target ads better.
[17:22:55] <JT-Shop> that sounds more like it LOL
[17:22:56] <jdh> but, I do like the bookmark & tab sharing
[17:23:15] <JT-Shop> what is tab sharing?
[17:23:18] <jdh> I can open chrome on my phone and get to the same tabs that are up on my home computer.
[17:23:59] <JT-Shop> eye phone?
[17:24:20] <jdh> android... Galaxy Note @
[17:24:24] <jdh> err... 2...
[17:24:49] <JT-Shop> I have one of those crappy eye phones
[17:24:49] <jdh> there is a Chrome for iPhone also though.
[17:25:01] <jdh> it's not crappy, just tiny
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[17:25:53] <jdh> my eyes got too old for iPhone screens.
[17:26:00] <frallzor> new stick same error
[17:26:11] <jdh> http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2591582
[17:26:12] <frallzor> why oh why
[17:26:38] <frallzor> anyone installed via live-cd from usb and can share the progress? =)
[17:26:39] <jdh> sounds like a computer problem, call your mfgrs help line!
[17:27:16] <jdh> frall: I just booted my USB stick and it installed.
[17:27:39] <frallzor> how did you go about prepping the stick?
[17:28:21] <jdh> I did it in windows... don't recall the app name.
[17:29:42] <jdh> app at pendrivelinux.com
[17:30:32] <frallzor> hmm the one I used then
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[17:30:42] <jdh> hrm... I think I used unetbootin last time
[17:30:59] <jdh> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[17:31:07] <frallzor> that rings some bells
[17:32:14] <JT-Shop> does chrome have an ad block?
[17:32:51] <jdh> you can add them via the extensions thing
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[17:34:15] <jdh> the only thing I miss from firefox is FoxyProxy
[17:38:42] <psha> frallzor: i've installed - just forced grub to load vmlinuz from iso image...
[17:39:11] <frallzor> how?
[17:39:17] <frallzor> im not that into linux =)
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[17:39:38] <psha> hm, then better take unetbootin :)
[17:40:21] <frallzor> tried it all
[17:40:26] <frallzor> same boot error
[17:40:45] <jdh> did you check the md5sums ?
[17:42:11] <frallzor> nah, just downloaded again
[17:42:57] <frallzor> ill try the annoying way now, external ODD
[17:43:08] <jdh> how 80's
[17:45:05] <frallzor> gonna download once more to a different location and also verify checksum
[17:47:41] <r00t4rd3d> frallzor, what is happening why you try to install?
[17:47:53] <r00t4rd3d> why/when
[17:48:39] <frallzor> the familiar boot logo of the motherboard, seems to read usb, then "boot error"
[17:48:41] <frallzor> all it says
[17:49:03] <r00t4rd3d> how did you copy the files onto the usb stick?
[17:49:08] <Mr_Wolfs> hi
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[17:49:46] <frallzor> unetbootin, pendrive app
[17:49:51] <frallzor> tried both
[17:50:26] <r00t4rd3d> see if there is a update for your bios
[17:50:45] <frallzor> well it have worked with the live-cd for 2.3.5
[17:50:54] <frallzor> seems odd if it shouldnt work now
[17:52:24] <charlie> hi Mr_Wolfs!
[17:54:11] <frallzor> trying another usb-stick now =P
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[17:58:27] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
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[18:03:37] <Connor> skunkworks: archivist was saying something last night about you building/finding a servo controller that's pretty inexpensive that passes the encoder info on to linuxcnc ?
[18:03:53] <Connor> The Gecko style is step/dir.. no way to get linuxcnc into the PID loop
[18:04:09] <Connor> and all the other servo controllers I've found are for really high end servo's.
[18:04:20] <Connor> want something that can handle 13.5amps around 90v
[18:04:37] <Connor> PWM driven most likly..
[18:05:02] <archivist> last night was this morning for me :)
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[18:05:16] <Connor> blah!
[18:05:17] <Connor> :)
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[18:07:29] <IchGuckLive> conor yaskawa
[18:07:33] <IchGuckLive> omron
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[18:07:51] <IchGuckLive> there are lots of on the ebay
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[18:11:20] <skunkworks> Connor, archivist, that is not ringing a bell....
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[18:12:02] <skunkworks> I built a servo amp that was only lightly tested... But for brushed servo. (just a dumb pwm amp)
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[18:12:23] <Connor> that's what I'm talking about I guess.
[18:12:37] <archivist> I know you only got so far :)
[18:12:40] <Connor> It didn't use encoder info at all ?
[18:12:50] <skunkworks> no - right to linuxcnc
[18:12:57] <archivist> the encoder goes to the mesa card
[18:13:02] <skunkworks> right
[18:13:32] <skunkworks> Connor, amc drives are usually pretty cheap on ebay. they have brushed/brushless
[18:13:33] <Connor> Some of the higher end servo drivers I've looked at, takes the encoder in, and outputs it too.. I think so it can handle the velocity side maybe?
[18:13:47] <skunkworks> yes - usually
[18:14:13] <archivist> some people have differing definitions of cheap
[18:14:30] <skunkworks> heh - cheaper than new
[18:14:31] * jthornton likes that
[18:14:34] <Connor> On price point or under of the Gecko.
[18:15:40] <skunkworks> connor - brushed or brushless?
[18:16:47] <Connor> brushed
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[18:19:28] <skunkworks> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Advanced-Motion-Controls-Brushless-PWM-Servo-Amplifier-B25A20ACQ-AU5-/261150179069?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccdc37efd
[18:19:37] <skunkworks> these even have the power supply in them...
[18:20:12] <archivist> brushed ?
[18:20:13] <skunkworks> 25 peak - 12.5 cont - brushed or brushless
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[18:20:33] <skunkworks> The B's will do both - but you might want to download the specs to be sure
[18:21:18] <skunkworks> there are atleast 2 on ebay right now
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[18:22:04] <Connor> Just look for Advanced Motion Controls.. I looked at them last night.. I was just confused.. I was expecting to see them take the encoder info in and send it out so they could handle the speed/velocity..
[18:22:16] <skunkworks> some do - some don't
[18:22:32] <skunkworks> The BE's do - but the b's usually only take tach
[18:22:37] <Connor> I guess, the truth of the mater is.. for what i'm thinking of using this for.. a Gecko might work just fine.
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[18:23:36] <skunkworks> usually will do current and voltage mode.
[18:23:40] <Connor> Looking for 4th axis. Going to use my original G0704 motor for it.. add a AMT102 encoder to it.. and direct drive a 7x lathe spindle.
[18:24:24] <Connor> What to be able to do lathe mode and index mode with it.. Figured a servo would be best way to go.
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[18:36:08] <jdh> are you getting another 7x headstoock?
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[18:36:31] <Connor> No. I'll probably use my existing one.
[18:36:44] <Connor> would rather have a 5C Headstock though..
[18:38:10] <archivist> will there be conflicting requirements lathe v indexing
[18:38:29] <Connor> archivist: Explain ?
[18:39:05] <archivist> any spindle brake for indexing and what use case
[18:40:00] <archivist> and any accuracy needs when indexing
[18:40:13] <Connor> archivist: Are you saying there will be conflicting requirements? You phrased it as a question.. so, I'm confused.
[18:42:18] <pcw_home> You would need a pretty high res encoder for decent indexing
[18:42:31] <archivist> when indexing how rigidly held by the servo against what radius of cutting force
[18:42:44] <Connor> those AMT's will do 2048 PPR
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[18:43:41] <archivist> for a 500 tooth gear you could be cutting that is a poor resolution
[18:44:14] <pcw_home> I would think a brake would be required for a direct drive indexing
[18:44:49] <pcw_home> Or a pretty heavy chuck
[18:45:18] <Connor> I'm still working on other things ATM.. this is long term idea..
[18:45:23] <Connor> just trying to figure out what's needed.
[18:45:51] <Connor> Maybe gearing it down will be needed.. I don't recall the RPM of the motor..
[18:46:13] <archivist> or a large radius servo motor so it has the torque...but then its poor at speed for lathe
[18:46:14] <Connor> I know it could do 3000RPM on the Mill before I removed it.. and that was geared down.
[18:47:46] <jdh> how about two motors... normal one for lathe mode. Or pulley/stepper for index
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[18:49:32] <Connor> I think a servo motor with maybe a spindle break will work. gear/pulley reduction may be needed. I'll check out the RPM this weekend on that moror.
[18:49:36] <Connor> motor
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[18:52:19] <Connor> Here is the gear train on the G0704. 20T on motor, 37T on the driver gear.. linked to a 42T/62T which drivers a 60T/70T
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[18:54:49] <Connor> So... something like 5722 RPM..
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[18:55:06] <Connor> 20T/37T is .540 gear reduction.
[18:55:17] <Connor> 62/60 is 1.03..
[18:55:28] <Connor> Top speed in high gear was around 3000RPM
[19:00:36] <jdh> You kept your change gear?
[19:01:57] <r00t4rd3d> anyone with a d525
[19:01:58] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290789035980?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
[19:02:27] <r00t4rd3d> antennas
[19:02:27] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/250848033418?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
[19:02:55] <Connor> jdh No. Just back tracking the original gearing to get he RPM of the motor.
[19:04:26] <r00t4rd3d> im getting my 525 to function with only power wires connected
[19:04:48] <Connor> r00t4rd3d: ?? Explain what you mean
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[19:05:30] <r00t4rd3d> the 525 has a usb ssd header to eliminate the harddrive and a pci-e mini slot for a mini wireless card
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[19:05:54] <r00t4rd3d> more compact i guess
[19:06:42] <r00t4rd3d> dont have to listen to a hard drive or have a wireless card/usb
[19:06:44] <mrsun> hmm anyone has a mechmate ?
[19:06:49] <mrsun> have built one
[19:09:46] <Connor> r00t4rd3d: Oh, your using the pic-e for the HD.
[19:10:32] <Connor> I just used a SSD HD because I wanted more space.. those little things don't have near the space as the SSD
[19:11:42] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.amazon.com/Embedded-PARTS-QUICK-Mini-ITX-industrial-motherboards/dp/B00724HO9W
[19:12:01] <r00t4rd3d> i got a smaller one but that one would be enough for linux and windows
[19:12:21] <Connor> Ehh.. USB ??
[19:12:30] <r00t4rd3d> do you have a 525?
[19:12:31] <Connor> That's even slower.. why not a PCI-E one ?
[19:12:35] <Connor> Yes.
[19:12:51] <r00t4rd3d> it has a special port
[19:13:08] <r00t4rd3d> right next to the pci slot, brown usb header
[19:13:26] <r00t4rd3d> read your manual about what that is
[19:14:02] <jdh> I have two 525's. One gives me real-time errors
[19:14:34] <r00t4rd3d> "One port is implemented with an internal header (brown-colored) that
[19:14:34] <r00t4rd3d> supports an Intel® Z-U130 USB Solid-State Drive or compatible device"
[19:14:53] <Connor> r00t4rd3d: Yes, I see that.. but, it's STILL USB based.
[19:15:07] <Connor> You can get the SSD's in PCI-E that will run faster.
[19:15:18] <r00t4rd3d> wifi in pci-e mini slot
[19:15:40] <Connor> Ah. See.. I would do it the other way around. USB for Wifi..
[19:15:50] <Connor> PCI-E for HD
[19:16:13] <r00t4rd3d> i got all my parts for less then 20
[19:16:22] <r00t4rd3d> cant do that your way for that #
[19:16:31] <jdh> anyone have latency issues caused by wifi?
[19:16:36] <Connor> How much are the SSD's that are PCI-E ?
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[19:16:53] <r00t4rd3d> i got a 2gb for 5 bucks
[19:16:54] <jdh> I used a 'free' hardrive and a $6 wifi card
[19:17:00] <Connor> jdh: You turn off all the power management stuff ?
[19:17:21] <jdh> afaik
[19:17:38] <jdh> I still have it set up in my computer room. Need to clean off my router table and take it downstairs
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[19:17:55] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SANDISK-SSD-Mini-PCI-E-Hard-drive-16GBs-/261160261344?pt=US_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item3cce5d56e0
[19:18:03] <r00t4rd3d> hmmmmmmm
[19:18:10] <Connor> Bingo.
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[19:20:15] <r00t4rd3d> still more expensive, that one is auction also so it might not go for that
[19:20:20] <r00t4rd3d> a new one is 20
[19:20:37] <r00t4rd3d> from china
[19:20:59] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/KingSpec-SATA-Mini-PCIe-MLC-8GB-SSD-for-AUSU-Eee-PC-S101-1000HC-Winpad-P100-/321003353747?pt=US_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item4abd4a7693
[19:21:04] <r00t4rd3d> 22 from usa :/
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[19:25:30] <r00t4rd3d> im not sure how fast that internet usb head port is either
[19:25:43] <r00t4rd3d> it uses twice the amount of pins
[19:25:50] <r00t4rd3d> as a normal usb
[19:26:34] <Connor> Just because it has those pins doesn't mean it uses them..
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[19:35:27] <jdh> the extra pins are the unused half of a regular dual USB header
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[19:35:56] <Connor> r00t4rd3d: Trust me. USB is slower than PCI-E. No two ways about it.
[19:36:21] <anonimasu> Connor: checked out graphite drives?
[19:36:41] <Connor> anonimasu: ??
[19:36:45] <anonimasu> err granite devices
[19:37:00] <anonimasu> (I got a tip from a guy the other day that they work really well with old fanuc servos)
[19:39:21] <anonimasu> not ultra cheap, but they seem more sane then geckos for cnc projects :)
[19:39:43] <anonimasu> also, the power output seems pretty good
[19:40:21] <anonimasu> (I talked to a guy that works with fanuc repairs, he said if you buy a old mill you can just swap the drives out from the ones from granite devices and run emc or mach3 or whatever other option you go for
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[19:45:16] <anonimasu> I need to figure how to connect a coffee maker to my lathe.
[19:45:25] <anonimasu> so it can make me coffee between cycles :p
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[19:49:05] <anonimasu> next friday will be funny im going to hard turn some shafts with pcbn inserts
[19:49:06] <archivist> place a kettle on a hot servo
[19:49:33] <anonimasu> they dont get warm :/
[19:49:53] <archivist> not trying hard enough then
[19:50:27] <anonimasu> I have 15kw of spindle on the lathe I use like 2kw
[19:51:00] <frallzor> in 10.04 where is linuxCNC found? =)
[19:51:09] <frallzor> trying to find le configs folder
[19:51:35] <anonimasu> I wonder how a 10kw cut looks.
[19:51:44] <anonimasu> and how big chips will fall off.
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[20:09:41] <jdh> I've been emailing this keling/automationwtf guy about the cheap chinese laser they sell. I've asked him repeatedly how thick you could cut acrylic and plywood. And how fast you coudl cut 1/4" acrylic. He has yet to say anything useful.
[20:10:14] <jdh> in software you can set to 0 to 30 mm/second. you use 19 ch/second
[20:10:28] <jdh> centi-henries?
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[20:11:50] <frallzor> hmm who where had a nice setup to be used with a gamepad?
[20:12:08] <frallzor> remember getting a nice setup from someone
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[20:12:26] <frallzor> with dead mans grip etc
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[20:25:51] <ssi> seen this?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1651082654/jog-it-open-source-controller-pendant-for-emc2-and
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[20:34:56] <frallzor> my gamepad was cheaper =)
[20:35:09] <frallzor> and does what I need it to do when setup =P
[20:35:29] <ssi> k, I'll keep my unheplful suggestions to my damn self :P
[20:39:01] <frallzor> =P
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[20:40:51] <Nick001-Shop> ssi- what cards did you get for your hardinge?
[20:40:53] <frallzor> JT-Shop
[20:40:56] <frallzor> here?
[20:41:18] <ssi> Nick001-Shop: 7i49 and 7i37TA
[20:42:06] <Nick001-Shop> thanks - did you get all the resolvers working ok?
[20:43:27] <ssi> yeah, resolvers work great
[20:43:38] <ssi> although I had to send my '49 back to pcw and have him rescale them
[20:43:48] <ssi> because the HNC resolvers output much stronger than the stock one could handle
[20:44:28] <ssi> unfortunately, my machine is down right now
[20:44:34] <ssi> something's wrong in the turret pneumatics
[20:44:41] <ssi> and I don't understand it well enough to fix it :(
[20:45:59] <Nick001-Shop> you said you got some garbage in the line and you have to start cleaning stuff after you get a good filter on the airline.
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[20:46:28] <anonimasu> pneumatics is like electrics pretty much air in stuff moves.. (tho you have a return line)
[20:46:35] <ssi> I thought that was what was wrong
[20:46:37] <anonimasu> take stuff apart label it and clean
[20:46:47] <ssi> I started disassembling things, and discovered that there was a broken check valve
[20:46:51] <anonimasu> also, air valves are tiny so tiny shit sticks inside
[20:47:04] <ssi> I replaced the check valve ($260 from hardinge :()
[20:47:08] <anonimasu> check valve = diodes for air systems
[20:47:12] <ssi> and put it back together, and now it's broken differently
[20:47:22] <jdh> progress!
[20:47:30] <ssi> I think it might be the four way solenoid valve on the backside, but I don't know how to go about testing it
[20:47:33] <Nick001-Shop> Does mesa have a record of what he had to do to the card? I'm getting ready to do the next Hardinge and would like to keep the resolvers
[20:47:36] <frallzor> hmm will the guide for adding gamepad as pendant work for 2.5?
[20:47:48] <ssi> I bet pcw would remember what he did for me
[20:47:52] <anonimasu> maybe you have debris from the broken valve somewhere further away
[20:48:42] <anonimasu> what you can do is manually push the valves(they usually have a dot) to make them act
[20:49:02] <ssi> it's a clipper valve
[20:49:13] <anonimasu> it shouldnt be overly heavy so you can see if something is stuck
[20:49:28] <Nick001-Shop> dicsoneect the hardige lines and add your own lines - use an airgun on the diffent lines to see if the turret reacts
[20:49:45] <anonimasu> manually running hte valves should work if there's pressure to them
[20:49:45] <ssi> it's not quite that simple I don't think
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[20:50:10] <ssi> the clippard valve has eight holes in it, and it screws into an aluminum valve body
[20:50:11] <anonimasu> and if one feels stuck take it apart and clean
[20:50:30] <ssi> I don't know how to manually run the valve, other than trying to hit it with electricity
[20:50:30] <anonimasu> 2/2 way valves?
[20:50:45] <ssi> and I can't do that because I don't have the pin extractor for the stupid taper pin blocks, and I don't want to cut the wires if I can avoid it
[20:50:47] <anonimasu> there's a round dot on most valves on the side where you can press the slide
[20:50:51] <ssi> hm
[20:50:53] <ssi> I'll have to look
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[20:51:10] <ssi> poor thing's been disassembled for two months because I dunno wtf to do with it
[20:51:57] <ssi> I think it's this one:
[20:51:57] <ssi> http://www.clippard.com/part/R-481-24
[20:52:02] <ssi> but I'm going from memory, I'm at work
[20:53:13] <anonimasu> dosent look like you can manually make it act.
[20:53:16] <ssi> might be the 482, which looks like the same thing only without the spring return?
[20:53:44] <anonimasu> looks like a stupid old valve :D
[20:53:57] <ssi> yeah, a stupid old valve in a stupid old machine :P
[20:55:03] <anonimasu> can you hear it click when actuating?
[20:55:18] <ssi> I don't know
[20:55:34] <ssi> I haven't been able to actuate it other than from the computer
[20:55:42] <ssi> and there's enough crap going on that I can't tell if the valve clicks or not
[20:55:57] <ssi> I wanted to pull the valve and try to cycle it on the bench, but I don't have the pin tools
[20:56:14] <ssi> I probably will break down and cut those wires
[20:56:36] * anonimasu nods
[20:56:48] <anonimasu> that's probably a smart move.
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[20:56:57] <anonimasu> and if it's broken replace with a new model that you can actually service :p
[20:57:38] <ssi> I don't know how I'd replace it with anything but another of the exact same valve
[20:57:41] <anonimasu> tho it looks like the connector can be taken off..
[20:57:44] <ssi> since the valve body is custom machined for it
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[20:57:53] <anonimasu> well, valve + valve body
[20:58:08] <ssi> again, I don't think that'd be feasible
[20:58:14] <ssi> I'd have to show you
[20:58:23] <ssi> I hate pneumatics :P
[20:58:58] <anonimasu> hehe, hydraulics are just the same
[20:59:36] <ssi> the valve block is a hunk of aluminum flatbar with a zillion holes drilled in it that screws up against parts of the machine and switches a dozen little air pathways
[20:59:43] <ssi> and that clippard valve is what switches its flows
[20:59:45] <ssi> it's complex as shit
[21:00:02] <anonimasu> it's a 4 way pilot valve
[21:00:27] <ssi> that doesn't mean much to me :'(
[21:00:37] <ssi> I have the pneumo schematics actually
[21:00:38] <anonimasu> it means you have 4 different air pathways inside
[21:00:43] <ssi> but I'm retarded with pneumatics
[21:00:51] <anonimasu> for the air to flow
[21:01:05] <anonimasu> http://www.ingersollrandproducts.com/ap-en/products/fluid/pneumatic-valves-and-cylinders/pneumatic-valves/maxair-series/4-way-air-solenoid-and-pilot-valves
[21:01:23] <anonimasu> see the blocks in the drawing with arrows?
[21:01:40] <ssi> yea I know
[21:01:40] <ssi> http://www.clippard.com/downloads/PDF_Documents/Clippard%20Full%20Line%20Catalog/Clippard%20Catalog%20by%20Page%20Number/226-287%20Modular%20Valves/Page%20270.pdf
[21:01:42] <anonimasu> when actuated it goes one way when released the spring makes it shift the other way..
[21:01:43] <ssi> there's the actual valve
[21:01:46] <anonimasu> and you see where the air goes by that
[21:02:54] <ssi> and here:
[21:02:55] <ssi> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB93hDcCUAEyFFo.jpg:large
[21:02:58] <ssi> that's my machine's schematic
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[21:03:39] <anonimasu> i'd check and clean the check valves
[21:03:55] <anonimasu> then look at the valves(if possible swap them around)
[21:04:27] <anonimasu> (only one and I guess that's the one you already checked)
[21:05:13] <ssi> there's another one that's involved with the turret cushion, another thing I don't really understand
[21:05:20] <ssi> but I haven't taken any of that apart, and frankly I'm scared to :P
[21:05:34] <ssi> I had the actual turret off the machine once and holy shit that is scary
[21:05:35] <ssi> :D
[21:05:50] <Nick001-Shop> does the turret rise at all?
[21:05:54] <anonimasu> hehe, I know I repaired my duplomatic one a million times -_-
[21:05:59] <anonimasu> they have a awful design.
[21:06:11] <anonimasu> switches cams and lock pins and solenoids..
[21:06:37] <ssi> Nick001-Shop: I think now it doesn't
[21:06:41] <anonimasu> I had to re-seal everything because it took coolant into the turret switch.
[21:06:47] <anonimasu> (encoder)
[21:06:54] <ssi> last I checked, when I aired the system, it sounded like a major air leak
[21:07:07] <ssi> and if I gave a toolchange command, it'd switch to a slightly less major air leak for a second, and nothing would move
[21:07:13] <anonimasu> that's a good sign
[21:07:18] <ssi> is it? :P
[21:07:30] <anonimasu> that means you can actually find something wrong instead of dissassembling every valve..
[21:07:42] <anonimasu> feel where the airlines go and try to feel if it blows
[21:07:49] <ssi> how much beer would it take to get one of you to just come over? :D
[21:08:00] <anonimasu> it'd take a airplane.
[21:08:04] <ssi> well you're in luck
[21:08:06] <ssi> I have one of those
[21:08:20] <ssi> actually I have two of those, but one's not flying yet
[21:08:26] <anonimasu> im in north sweden.. pretty much in the forest
[21:08:29] <Nick001-Shop> and a lot of gas -)
[21:08:31] <ssi> shit that'd be a long flight
[21:08:46] <anonimasu> i think like 17 hours
[21:08:51] <ssi> haha not in my airplane
[21:08:53] <anonimasu> on a boeing
[21:08:53] <ssi> it'd take a week
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[21:09:56] <anonimasu> I hate old machinery.
[21:10:09] <ssi> yeah, me too
[21:10:11] <ssi> wtf was I thinking :P
[21:10:24] <anonimasu> my old lathe has been pretty much dissassembled into microns before even making parts
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[21:10:46] <anonimasu> but now it does 12 hours of continous cutting without messing
[21:11:03] <ssi> my hardinge works pretty well... or at least it did before the turret quit
[21:11:18] <anonimasu> and I know enough to fix it if it breaks
[21:11:35] <anonimasu> I dont know how I made decent parts without a cnc lathe.(proper one)
[21:14:05] <anonimasu> now I have to actually give tolerance to fit things togther then aiming for nominal size and hoi
[21:14:21] <anonimasu> hoping it'll go togther because of measuring errors and tool deflection :D
[21:14:50] <ssi> haha yeah
[21:15:04] <ssi> I've been very impressed with the precision of the hardinge
[21:15:18] <ssi> it's a nice machine, it's just old and cranky
[21:15:26] <anonimasu> I cut a part and forgot to add 0.07mm for the fit, it went to 70.00+/-0.00
[21:15:53] <anonimasu> (usually it's the other way around)
[21:16:23] <anonimasu> i like it when you ask someone how tight they want things and they say "DEAD ON!"
[21:16:52] <ssi> yep
[21:17:03] <anonimasu> for one off stuff(it's funny when they realize you told them that you want to give a bit of space so things will go togther and they were arguing not to)
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[21:17:38] <mrsun> oh more swedish people
[21:17:47] <ssi> I have a part that I make for a guy, and the design calls for a 2" OD with a fine surface finish
[21:17:47] <anonimasu> yep :)
[21:17:54] <ssi> and the OD doesn't matter, because it doesn't fit anything else
[21:18:00] <ssi> he's more concerned about the look of it
[21:18:14] <ssi> and it was a battle to convince him to let me turn it to 1.95"
[21:18:18] <anonimasu> we made some shafts that would stick in the bearings we made them for because of dust it was pretty cool
[21:18:28] <ssi> because I'd need to start with 2.25" stock to get a 2.00" turned finish
[21:18:32] <ssi> and it's wasteful as hell
[21:18:54] <Connor> ssi ROFL
[21:19:11] <Connor> Should have just done it and not told him.
[21:19:16] <ssi> yeah seriously :P
[21:19:26] <anonimasu> engineers... -_-
[21:19:45] <ssi> he sent me another design that's sorta hat shaped, and it has this thin brim that's almost 4" diameter
[21:19:50] <ssi> and the 4" stock alone just costs a fortune
[21:19:52] <ssi> and he didn't like my price
[21:20:10] <Connor> What are these parts for ?
[21:20:11] <ssi> he found some shop in mexico that made them for less than I could buy the metal
[21:20:17] <ssi> subframe bushings for cars
[21:20:26] <mrsun> weld on a ring? :P
[21:20:30] <ssi> apparently the shop he used had drop that worked for the part
[21:20:39] <anonimasu> tell me about it . I have 450eur steel shaft 1/2 meter of it..
[21:21:12] <anonimasu> 130mm bar of ss2225 or 2541 cant remember now
[21:21:15] <Connor> Weld flat stock on to the part and turn it down..
[21:21:20] <mrsun> anonimasu, so he had this bar of steel ... and ... :P
[21:21:39] <anonimasu> just stupid expensive
[21:21:43] <Tom_itx> Connor, that would change the metalurgy
[21:21:52] <anonimasu> and 30mm on dia will go to chips of it..
[21:22:04] <Tom_itx> it would need heat treat afterward
[21:22:07] <mrsun> mmm chips
[21:22:20] <Tom_itx> cheaper to get oversize stock
[21:22:36] <anonimasu> yep and it'll atually turn out good :)
[21:22:46] <ssi> tom: agreed
[21:22:53] <ssi> it was even cheaper for me just to not screw with it
[21:22:58] <anonimasu> welding things togther never goes quite good either
[21:22:58] <ssi> he wanted to pay next to nothing for these parts
[21:23:04] <mrsun> glue on a piece of stock on it then!
[21:23:05] <ssi> and they're car suspension parts... no thanks :P
[21:23:12] <mrsun> superglue can lift a car ;)
[21:23:16] <Tom_itx> yeah tell him to send it out to china for bid
[21:23:18] <ssi> I think he ended up paying like $17 per pair for them
[21:23:44] <ssi> and the raw material would have been 4" dia round bar 6061T6, about 4" each
[21:23:48] <ssi> that shit's not cheap
[21:23:54] <mrsun> people think that machine work and material is so cheap
[21:23:57] <anonimasu> if I build suspension parts for someone i'd be damn sure to call out for a material spec.
[21:24:00] <Tom_itx> i can get that surplus
[21:24:08] <Tom_itx> probably up to 24" diameter
[21:24:18] <mrsun> if they come with a special thing that need to be made they cant expect it to cost like something that is churned out in the millions :P
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[21:25:21] <anonimasu> mrsun: true that, I manual turn one off stuff without critical dimensions because it's easier to justify working 1 hour then setting up the lathe for 20 minutes and making a part in 5
[21:26:01] <anonimasu> or maybe 40 minutes of setup and programming/swapping chuck jaws..
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[21:30:16] <Connor> would you consider a Solid State Relay a fail safe device? I need to put a relay of some sort on my AC side of my spindle. I was using a normal relay, but, the one I have isn't rated enough for the new motor and driver.
[21:31:04] <mrsun> more sensetive to spikes etc from induktors i guess ?
[21:31:24] <anonimasu> mhm, there are safety relays for that kind of stuff
[21:31:40] <PCW> Nick001-Shop: ssi resolvers were 1 --> 2ratio so need the 7I49-hv I dont know if all HNC resolvers are or not
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[21:33:35] <anonimasu> Connor: carefully examine your vfd manual and see what it says about estop
[21:34:10] <anonimasu> Connor: how safe do you need it ot be?
[21:34:20] <Connor> anonimasu: using a KBCC SCR driver.
[21:34:41] <Nick001-Shop> PCW-my resolvers are 1/2 ratio also-same for CHNC 's that I have.
[21:34:43] <frallzor> well fuck me in a barrel, first time I install linuxCNC and fix everything myself!
[21:35:06] <Nick001-Shop> were they the only 2 cards that were used?
[21:35:14] <frallzor> even got the gamepad-pendant to seem to work, cant test until machine hooked up though, but it didnt crash !
[21:35:28] <PCW> So need 7I49-hv
[21:36:29] <ReadError> hey ssi
[21:36:34] <ReadError> you are in atlanta right?
[21:37:04] <ssi> yea
[21:37:07] <Nick001-Shop> PCW- can I fit a 2 servo driver with these cards? I want to take out the 2 axis amps to get rid of the tachs
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[21:39:31] <ssi> ReadError: NW atlanta, Kennesaw actually
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[21:40:43] <PCW> the 7I49 has 6 resolver inputs and 6 +- 10V analog outputs dont know what your drives require...
[21:40:58] <ReadError> ssi: do you drive up 75?
[21:41:03] <ssi> every damn day
[21:41:03] <ReadError> omg it was miserable yesterday
[21:41:11] <ssi> yeah, actually I didn't yesterday :D
[21:41:18] <ssi> I saw Lake Moore's Mill and decided to do backroads
[21:41:24] <ReadError> yea man i was like, you know i should stay home today heh
[21:41:32] <ReadError> but i hadnt been to the office for 2.5 weeks
[21:41:41] <ReadError> figured i should show everyone im still alive
[21:41:44] <ReadError> horrible mistake ;(
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[21:45:05] <ssi> yeah you picked the wrong day for sure :D
[21:45:22] <ssi> my gf works in kennesaw, and she was huddled in a closet with all her coworkers for an hour
[21:45:33] <ReadError> im downtown
[21:45:39] <ReadError> i thought the windows where going to blow out
[21:45:47] <ReadError> you could see them going in and out
[21:46:15] <ssi> yea I'm in midtown, but I don't sit close enough to a window to see anything cool :)
[21:46:38] <ReadError> know anyone selling any bridgeports in town? :o
[21:47:02] <ReadError> i check craigslist, seem to come up very rarely
[21:49:03] <Nick001-Shop> PCW> the 2 servos take 107vdc and final output has a 4.5 amp fuse with 2 resolvers and 1 resolver for the spindle. I only need 1 +-10v to control the spindle HiAk driver
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[21:50:35] <PCW> are your drives OK?
[21:52:15] <Nick001-Shop> OK for now - just want to replace the 2 axis amps with something newer and without the tachs.
[21:53:19] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[21:53:46] <Nick001-Shop> The Aleen Bradley contols have reached the end of the line. The boards are blowing compents faster than I can find and replace them
[21:53:57] <Nick001-Shop> Allen
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[21:54:53] <Nick001-Shop> components - fingers are getting cold
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[22:00:37] <ssi> ReadError: not that I know of... I got lucky getting mine
[22:06:55] <Valen> !seen andypugh
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[22:16:26] <Nick001-Shop> ssi> Here's the pin removal tool you need
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amp-Tyco-91012-2-Contact-Terminal-Removal-Tool-Taper-Pin-Extractor-/140904870375?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20ce95b1e7
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[22:57:19] <JT-Shop> frallzor: yep
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[23:07:45] <ssi> Nick001-Shop: yeah, that's what I need alright
[23:07:49] <ssi> freakin expensive though
[23:07:53] <ssi> I've found them as cheap as $110
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[23:15:24] <frallzor> JT-Shop never mind! =P
[23:15:40] <frallzor> or no
[23:15:53] <frallzor> did I get a nice gamepad-setup from you a whiiiile ago?
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[23:19:10] <JT-Shop> I did one and put it on the wiki
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[23:19:43] <JT-Shop> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Simple_Remote_Pendant
[23:20:05] <frallzor> i see, the one I followed
[23:20:14] <frallzor> no error when trying in-doors =)
[23:20:21] <frallzor> will be fun to see tomorrow
[23:20:50] <frallzor> got my act together and updated to latest live-cd edition
[23:20:59] <frallzor> just got all settings done
[23:21:04] <JT-Shop> cool
[23:21:19] <frallzor> even managed to fix the touchscreen
[23:21:44] <JT-Shop> what was wrong?
[23:23:28] <frallzor> lack of skills in linux before
[23:23:38] <frallzor> but was alot smoother to fix in 10.04
[23:23:42] <frallzor> than in 8.04
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[23:25:27] <frallzor> will be fun to see how much that actually works of what Ive fixed today =P
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[23:30:27] <Valen> anybody have any pointers on working out the inertia of a screw + load system
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[23:30:36] <Valen> helpful websites etc
[23:32:14] <jdh> http://www.smallmotors.com/html/lead_screws.html
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[23:50:46] <Nick001-Shop> can a differential encoder be hooked up to linuxcnc directly or only as single ended?
